Is Super Mario Galaxy 2 a Bad Sequel?

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  • Опубліковано 14 кві 2023
  • Super Mario Galaxy is easily one of the best games ever made, and to follow up it's success, Nintendo released a sequel less than 3 years later under the title of Super Mario Galaxy 2. On it's own, this game is no doubt an incredibly fun experience, but does it hold it up a sequel? That's the question I try to answer in this Super Mario Galaxy 2 retrospective. Enjoy!
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  • @enescustovic1883
    @enescustovic1883 Рік тому +648

    galaxy 1 and 2 are the creative peak of mario, we need something groundbreaking like this for the next mario game

    • @SuperMario2401
      @SuperMario2401 Рік тому +3

      Exactly I hope the next game is as good or better

    • @skylight1198
      @skylight1198 Рік тому +19

      @Jaretco oh yes absolutely.
      Not a fan of Odyssey though. It was a disappointment ~

    • @skylight1198
      @skylight1198 Рік тому +1

      @@jaretco6423 I wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment and I respect it. ^^

    • @Tlplgyt
      @Tlplgyt Рік тому +23

      @@skylight1198 to you maybe, to me, lived up to its expectations and more

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e Рік тому +10

      ​@@skylight1198 How was it a disappointment? 🤨

  • @kealintheknight9420
    @kealintheknight9420 Рік тому +317

    We need a Galaxy 3. I would live to return to this series once again

    • @arianamauery9281
      @arianamauery9281 11 місяців тому +17

      Yes. Odyssey isn’t a Galaxy game. It’s not quite the same; we need a Super Mario Galaxy 3!!

    • @doshi066
      @doshi066 9 місяців тому +3

      I would love if they announced it for a launch title for the switch 2

    • @Blinkers2007GameDev
      @Blinkers2007GameDev 7 місяців тому

      Absolutely. Best video games ever

    • @Eliteshot135
      @Eliteshot135 4 місяці тому +1

      As much as we would all love that, it’s highly unlikely as 1) it’s been 14 years and 2) the second game was only made because of some elements such as Yoshi that didn’t make it into the first game.

    • @avthecool129
      @avthecool129 2 місяці тому

      FRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

  • @dockingwater1713
    @dockingwater1713 Рік тому +693

    Galaxy 2 is basically the first game but if you were to trade the atmosphere and story for even better gameplay thanks to the World Map allowing you to get into levels faster, better level design and power ups. While I can absolutely see why others wouldn't like this change, I for one am all for it. I still think Galaxy 1 is a masterpiece, but I definitely prefer its sequel.

    • @survivalhh2995
      @survivalhh2995 Рік тому +28

      Agreed and I like what they did with the hub area. The star ship mario was just so charming and even though it was small it just worked well imo

    • @SJ-di5zu
      @SJ-di5zu Рік тому +9

      Imo SMG1 had slightly better level design. Less linearity and more sandbox overall. But I could see why you’d prefer SMG2’s level design, which had many more gimmicks, power-ups, gravity antics.

    • @ike.0037
      @ike.0037 Рік тому +3

      Kinda cap, we got more mechanics and power ups in the 1st game then this

    • @randomguy8107
      @randomguy8107 Рік тому +2

      Luma (P2) being that much better in SMG2 makes it impossible to play SMG1 for me as Luma.

    • @SleepingFumos
      @SleepingFumos Рік тому +4

      i always found it annoying going from dome to dome when you can just "fast travel". also, as a minor thing not needing to confirm save after every star is also a bit more convenient

  • @brianj7204
    @brianj7204 Рік тому +148

    Galaxy 2 is not a bad game, not in the slightest! But there is just a magical feeling thats missing in this game that the first game did have though. Galaxy 2 is just more optimized for gameplay, meaning you get to blitz trough the levels. And while the designs get more creative, the first game was more about exploring.

    • @luigigoomba7870
      @luigigoomba7870 3 місяці тому

      For real i played galaxy 2 then 1 and galaxy 1 feeled alone

    • @tamalemuncher789
      @tamalemuncher789 Місяць тому +1

      Galaxy 1 had the better atmosphere and story imo

  • @JGr2000
    @JGr2000 Рік тому +157

    I played through Galaxy 2 for the first time in 10-12 years about a month ago, and I absolutely loved it. Before that I always preferred Galaxy 1, forgetting almost everything about Galaxy 2 from the bosses to the galaxies. Galaxy 2 has become my favorite Mario and and favorite game ever

  • @Tuffbugg
    @Tuffbugg Рік тому +79

    I think galaxy 2 still has a lot of atmospheric galaxies, like Slimy Spring or Cosmic Cove. Yeah, its not as much as the first game, but I think it's pretty cool how Galaxy 2 sort of blended the atmosphere from galaxy with the classic and happy mario atmosphere.

    • @SuperMario2401
      @SuperMario2401 Рік тому +8

      Slimy Spring is one of the most beautiful Mario levels ever, wish we saw more like it

    • @Sand-Walker13
      @Sand-Walker13 Рік тому +5

      Cosmic cove is so wonderful. The atmosphere is fantastic.

  • @kenanbroersma709
    @kenanbroersma709 Рік тому +35

    Prediction. He's going to say it's not a bad sequel

  • @Pikminer-5087
    @Pikminer-5087 Рік тому +90

    I was opposed to Galaxy 2 for the longest time because of the story downgrades. Then I actually played it and ya know what, I think I was turned around on it

    • @WalnutAnimations
      @WalnutAnimations Рік тому +27

      Bro didn’t want to play a Mario game because it didn’t have a story 💀

    • @liveslugreaction6509
      @liveslugreaction6509 Рік тому +6

      @@WalnutAnimations its what made the first one a masterpiece

    • @dhans9662
      @dhans9662 Рік тому +25

      @@liveslugreaction6509 Wait, people actually gave a fuck about the story of Galaxy 1&2? Every Mario game literally has the same plot, the entire point of the series is to just have fun with the gameplay.

    • @N-Khal
      @N-Khal Рік тому +8

      @@liveslugreaction6509 What made the first one a masterpiece was the gameplay

    • @NuiYabuko
      @NuiYabuko Рік тому +2

      ​@@liveslugreaction6509 Based on the storybook? lol

  • @I_Eated_The_Soap
    @I_Eated_The_Soap Рік тому +97

    i am a massive Galaxy 2 Fangirl, it was the first game I ever 100%, I beat The Perfect Run when I was 7 or 8 Twice, Something which 18 year old me now struggles to do, and it's easily my favourite game of all time. Story wise Galaxy 1 is a much better game, I just read the storybook for the first time yesterday and it brought me to tears, but Galaxy 2 just holds a very special place in my heart that makes it more special to me than Galaxy 1

    • @dhans9662
      @dhans9662 Рік тому +11

      Im 17 and had the game since I was 4 and I haven't even reached Grandmaster Galaxy 💀

    • @elazarandrade2171
      @elazarandrade2171 Рік тому

      ​@@dhans9662loll😊

    • @dankscarce
      @dankscarce Рік тому

      ​@@dhans9662 You should try to complete the game, it's sooo worth it. Even though you might struggle with the final level, you'll love it

    • @dhans9662
      @dhans9662 Рік тому

      @@dankscarce Dude I'd love to but the disc reader on my Wii is broken 😔

    • @chanchowaton
      @chanchowaton 9 місяців тому

      @@dhans9662 try emulating it

  • @ddarkon1223
    @ddarkon1223 Рік тому +124

    We need a trequel
    The best mario series by far

    • @maximmillions
      @maximmillions Рік тому +4

      Exactly! Bring in the most iconic gameplay elements of both games and add a couple more..give every single Galaxy a sense of life and a real place rather than obstacles in the sky. I loved Galaxy 1 because almost every level either felt like someone's home planet, or you were on desolate trash. Aesthetic continuity was the driving factor of that first game forsure, and just having that in 2 would've easily made it top the 1st one. But Miyomoto just doesn't think like that apparently. However, perhaps we wouldn't have had such fun gameplay if they derived resources to make a story. Seems as if we will never know

    • @SlimeBlueMS
      @SlimeBlueMS Рік тому

      Wtf is a trequel

    • @ddarkon1223
      @ddarkon1223 Рік тому +2

      @@SlimeBlueMS 3rd game

    • @ddarkon1223
      @ddarkon1223 Рік тому +9

      @@maximmillions the atmosphere of galaxy 1 and the gameplay of galaxy 2 would make for one hell of a love letter to all of us, it's been more than a decade since the last galaxy game

    • @ninterminator1209
      @ninterminator1209 Рік тому +5

      galaxy 3 should've been the wii u's big mario game, we could've gotten super mario (U)niverse

  • @cityboy2092
    @cityboy2092 Рік тому +29

    The green stars were such an awesome touch that put Galaxy 2 a bit higher in regard for me than its predecessor. But man, that final scene with the lumas in Galaxy 1 sacrificing themselves still leaves a mark on me 16 years later. What a beautiful addition

    • @ianswift3521
      @ianswift3521 Рік тому +3

      thanks for ruining super mario galaxy for me. i just started playing it. and only insane people expect ending spoilers as one of the top comments on a video game that doesn't even regard the one being discussed in the video.

    • @Bunny-hv1xw
      @Bunny-hv1xw 8 місяців тому

      Um, if you have not played through the whole thing, why are you watching a video that revolves on the sequel to begin with? second, spoilers are Everyware, so it's best not to look up any media on a game or even a sequel of that same media because it's bound to happen, common knowledge @@ianswift3521

  • @lonecom685
    @lonecom685 Рік тому +56

    Wow, I watched your Super Mario Galaxy video just yesterday. Great timing!
    In my opinion, Super Mario Galaxy 2 is the better game mechanically. However, Super Mario Galaxy is great for an amalgamation of things. The atmosphere, soundtrack and story were just as important as the gameplay to make Super Mario Galaxy what it is and, aside from the OST, the sequel lacks in these departments. I don't even feel in space while playing Super Mario Galaxy 2.
    In any case, it's still a very good game.

    • @CassiusTheSecond
      @CassiusTheSecond Рік тому +3

      I highly disagree though; I think music im Galaxy 2 is better and I love its atmosphere more than 1 for how happy and classicy it feels. I agree quite a bit that the story is... story. But in all honesty, Galaxy 2 does have the best level design across the mainline mario games. Especially with how well executed the end game is with its green stars.
      Inshort, I think 2 is the best game in the series (my fav game of all time) with how gameplay go so far where it kinda lacks with story and such.
      Note: while I think music is better, it is very subjective. Same thing with atmosphere.

    • @lonecom685
      @lonecom685 Рік тому +1

      @@CassiusTheSecond I can respect your opinion on the atmosphere, although I disagree and find the space theme of the first game to be miles better and more grandiose. But in no way I’m going to say that the level design here is the best in the series. It’s not beating Super Mario World or even Super Mario 3D World

    • @CassiusTheSecond
      @CassiusTheSecond Рік тому

      @@lonecom685 Fair enough! To each their own!

  • @maximmillions
    @maximmillions Рік тому +27

    Man its hard. I genuinely think if both games were to combine it would've been the perfect Mario game ever. I truly think the power ups and gameplay in Galaxy 2 are just iconic and so fun, and if they just had that fun with the emotion Galaxy 1 brings, then thats truly your perfect game. I never even knew 2 was a retelling, but now that I know this it just hurts! The Evil Luma using Mario and going for revenge, somehow bringing the comet observatory right next to Marios head and being able to visit it from a launch star (or maybe even designing it into a level while its under attack couldve been a cool stage for this betrayal and boss fight.) Ditching the big purple loaf to have Rosalina be the new tour guide, and maybe even continue her story from the first game or having a new element for closure. I want to love Galaxy 2, but what they dont do really hits too hard for it to be considered a good sequel imo. Revisiting Galaxy 1 recently after 10 some years left me disappointed to find out that some of my favorite Galaxy memories (gameplay wise only) were from 2!

  • @poopaeon
    @poopaeon Рік тому +32

    Your videos are some of the most well put together that I’ve seen on the platform. I’m sure you’ll be huge one day man keep up the amazing work ❤

  • @mattschubert590
    @mattschubert590 Рік тому +9

    As a kid, my older brother would always play as Mario which left me to be Player 2 in most of these games, so during that time I always preferred the gameplay to Galaxy 2 since it introduced the red luma, which I think made playing the game as a second player a lot more fun and engaging. Both of the games are so special to me and I think you did a wonderful job on your video!

  • @Shojikinaai
    @Shojikinaai Рік тому +1

    Just stumbled across your channel the other day, been hooked since and really enjoying your stuff! A lot of people may make this kind of content but you have a unique style to your videos and commentary that really makes you stand out :D

  • @michelzwiers7742
    @michelzwiers7742 Рік тому +8

    It took me like 8 years of off and on playing the game before I beat the Perfect Run. When I first did it I had set up my Wii in the living room of the youth facility I lived in, so people could watch me if I wanted to. It felt really anticlimactic realizing it was finally over. I haven't played SMG2 since that day, but I'm thinking of starting a new playthrough soon

  • @glngallinera4344
    @glngallinera4344 Рік тому

    i have to say your editing and commentary style is engaging and an incredibly fun watch! You do our childhood favorites justice!

  • @AnimatedAirlines
    @AnimatedAirlines Рік тому +2

    Honestly one of my favorite galaxies was Clockwork Ruins because of the background art in the level. The giant towers and the mysterious planet below always fascinated me. The same goes for the ending section of Slimey Spring Galaxy with the sunset and wide expanse. I also gotta include the last Bower level with the huge castle hallway in the background. This sort of goes for a majority of the rest

  • @infinitygamingyt266
    @infinitygamingyt266 Рік тому +15

    Super Mario Galaxy 2 was the first 3D Mario game I’ve ever played when I was a kid. Even to this day I still enjoy this masterpiece. The amazing creativity each of the galaxies have, the memorable boss fights and the ability to collect all the green power stars at the end just make this game so memorable and amazing. Though, I do agree with the lack of the cinematic cutscene we got in the beginning of the game unlike Galaxy 1, I still enjoy and love this game to this day, it’s truly a masterpiece that NEEDS a remastered treatment for the Nintendo Switch.

  • @jytvreal
    @jytvreal Рік тому +2

    I do like the effort you put to make sure the wheel is spinning in the correct order (until world 6) 9:43

  • @scottsworkyt
    @scottsworkyt Рік тому +5

    The green stars alone make me prefer it. So much more to do since the postgame is not just the same game with Luigi

  • @madixjensen7070
    @madixjensen7070 Рік тому +2

    growing up with the Galaxy series i will say that you are right i think both games were grate in there own right i was to young to understand these caveats but you explaining them gave me a flood of wonderful memories and new appreciations for both games
    i wish they made a 3rd game combining aspects like the story and atmosphere and story from G1 and the gameplay improvements and post-game from G2 and make it have more open world exploration like other 3D Marios but I've been craving Super Mario Galaxy 3 for a really long time now

  • @kiraramax2066
    @kiraramax2066 Рік тому +5

    one of my favorite gameplay of this game happens to be Yoshi's infinite flutter glitch, and this glitch can break the difficulty of certain stars, and especially the green stars.

  • @vijithshankar8883
    @vijithshankar8883 Рік тому +3

    Please don't stop making these videos , I love them!!

  • @ewitty776
    @ewitty776 Рік тому +5

    Hey I just wanted to say I love your videos and really appreciate your passion and hard work. Thank you :)

  • @samthemantaylorplays6072
    @samthemantaylorplays6072 3 місяці тому +2

    14:31 this galaxy implies that Mario went to space to get to this level in Mario64

  • @SpasmProductions
    @SpasmProductions Рік тому

    just stumbled upon your channel. really enjoy your chill laidback yet passionate attitude :)

  • @generalcrab0009
    @generalcrab0009 Рік тому +3

    I’ve seen lots of people bring up how Galaxy 2’s story isn’t as good as the original’s and I’d just like to say to everyone that it’s the same as the original’s so I have no clue what makes Galaxy 2’s story not as good.
    Also the only reason the Star Festival happened again is because of the Universe Reset essentially resetting the Universe thus technically 100 have passed since the first game because the Universe reset.
    Also also, I saw somewhere that apparently Lubba was supposed to have a backstory but it got cut I think?
    Also also also, currently the closest we have to a backstory for Lubba is the fact that him and Rosalina know each other

  • @gmgz
    @gmgz Рік тому +8

    This is my 2nd favorite Mario game. It was a massive shame that it wasn't included in 3d all stars

    • @axebomber2108
      @axebomber2108 Рік тому

      It really should have been to match the original All-Stars having four games and considering it's one of the four original collect-a-thon games. Then add Odyssey later to match the original coming out with a version that included Super Mario World. Call it Super Mario 3D All-Stars + Odyssey.

  • @billny33
    @billny33 Рік тому +4

    I agree with a lot of what you said but a couple of places where we deviate:
    1. Yes, Mario Galaxy 2 has less story and atmosphere but I don't find it disappointing. I think it's a great tradeoff. 1 has more emotion and complete story, 2 has more fun levels. The linear world map I'm ok with but I guess I like linear things more than most. I like seeing how close I am to the end of something as motivation to keep going. And it also seemed like they knew we had gone through the emotional wringer of the first one and made it clear they were not looking to do that again, just wanted us to enjoy the cool new levels, and I'm fine with that. Don't get me wrong, the emotion of the first game really moved me, but I didn't need it in the sequel, and I realize it's rare to put that in a Mario game, so I'm used to not judging Mario games based on that.
    2. I am not a fan of the final Bowser fight. I think in a final boss fight there are 2 major components: presentation and actual challenge. Often games will use a masterful presentation to hide the fact that the boss is easy as fuck. And I think that's what happened here. Yes, it did look really cool, don't get me wrong. But it was painfully easy. I felt no sense of challenge at all trying to kill Bowser, just the illusion of challenge. And yes, the battle style was creative, but it couldn't make up for the lack of challenge to me. Bowser was also kind of easy in the final boss fight in SMG1 but I felt like you were usually still going to die a few times first, especially if you took victory for granted. In this one, I'm not sure I ever die when facing Bowser, it feels like a joke, and I feel like it undermines the grand presentation of the fight. I was kind of hoping you would have at least mentioned in passing how easy the fight was.
    But I think your main points I totally agree with. It's not a bad sequel and it's a tremendous game. It could have done more story/atmosphere wise. I'm not sure it needed to to make me happy but yeah, it could have made it more special had they put in the extra effort to craft a more complete story. And maybe that is worth talking about. Maybe this game could have been one to bring us to tears too.

  • @ike.0037
    @ike.0037 Рік тому +9

    4:25 I love how the screen says "let m tell you about a story that also begins with stardust" screen appears not only tell us that MG2 is a sequel to MG1 but it also implies what the first stage is called in the first game which I neve noticed

  • @Loguana
    @Loguana Рік тому

    It’s crazy how fast your growing! Keep it up

  • @floatyghost633
    @floatyghost633 Рік тому +2

    This game is one of the first games I've ever played besides lego star wars and mkwii. We also had the first Galaxy game, but like nsmw it barely worked so I only got to buoy base in that game, so I find this one way more nostalgic.

  • @blackwidow8805
    @blackwidow8805 Рік тому +5

    I believe the only way we'll see another Mario Galaxy series in this generation if it's called "Super Mario Returns to Galaxy." That would be incredible.

  • @Legend-of-Kai
    @Legend-of-Kai Рік тому

    First time commenting but I have to say I've watched a good number of your videos. Its inspiring to see another 'smaller' youtuber doing so well and making such nice content. Keep it up!

  • @ErzaScarlet4300
    @ErzaScarlet4300 Рік тому +1

    I remember when I first played super Mario galaxy when I was nine years old with my first puppy. He would stare at the beach level in the kitchen section in Rosalina home. It was his favorite part. 12 years later I played it on my switch in front of my elder dog one more time at the beach level he loved and started to wag his tail. It was the most wholesome last time we had together.

  • @boybossguy
    @boybossguy 3 місяці тому

    hehehe, hearing the song at the end again gave me the hugest bit of goosebumps ive had in ages.

  • @maxydnb
    @maxydnb Рік тому

    Amazing video. Just move from Scotland to Australia gonna ask my dad to send over my Wii so i can replay this now!

  • @Qwerty10254
    @Qwerty10254 Рік тому

    Dude I'm a YT veteran and your video STUNNED me. This is so well done. Congrats.

    • @Qwerty10254
      @Qwerty10254 Рік тому

      This was like a professional, cinematographic documentary about one of the greatest games ever made. It's so great. Great gameplay too, you know how to play this thing.

  • @tyleroutland435
    @tyleroutland435 Рік тому +2

    I love both mario galaxy games I really want a 3rd on the Nintendo switch or whatever there new console in the future.

  • @floatingkites2420
    @floatingkites2420 Рік тому +9

    I've never seen Galaxy 2 as a sequel. I've always played both back to back whenever I've gone back to them so it's always felt to, me like it was more the second half of the game.

    • @avocadeous
      @avocadeous Рік тому +1

      Same. They seem like two halves to me; whenever I play galaxy, I have to play galaxy 2 since the two games essentially complete each other if you know what I mean.

  • @luigigoomba7870
    @luigigoomba7870 3 місяці тому

    I would love this series to continue, galaxy 2 is my favourite galaxy 1 just feels like your alone in the middle of no where

  • @eli2210
    @eli2210 4 місяці тому

    I’ve never played part one and tried to on an emulator but the controls make it a bit hard to emulate and I don’t have my Wii remote anymore to connect so I still haven’t played Mario galaxy 1 but Part 2 was the game I fully completed with the exception of 1 star (my brother kept erasing my file though he was younger and didn’t know better) and man I replayed it over and over again. It was amazing to me plus the music was probably the best of any Mario series. I think I enjoyed this music over anything else

  • @GabeTStarman
    @GabeTStarman Рік тому

    Hey, I enjoyed this video once I realized it was more of a review of the game, despite certain disagreements with how we view it, but I was sort of surprised of how little the idea of what makes a good sequel was discussed at all in the video. Maybe it’s reductive to summarize, but the conclusion I drew was that your answer was like “sure I guess it depends on your taste idk” rather than talking about the nature of video game sequels and why this game in particular is an interesting case study. It felt like the title is misleading or maybe the vision of this essay got lost somewhere. Sort of irritating, but I still appreciate the effort put in.

  • @arin4395
    @arin4395 Рік тому +2

    galaxy 2 was my only experience w a galaxy game n i do not regret it ! it's a fantastic & enjoyable ride despite its lesser story . i do wish 2 play its prequel someday

  • @oTiaguh
    @oTiaguh Рік тому +2

    This is like the Far cry 3 and Far Cry 4 comparison, which 3 focuses on story wise, like Mario Galaxy and 4 focuses in more gameplay aspects and mechanics, like Mario Galaxy 2.
    Overall I love both games, and as long I get to have fun, it's all it matters!

  • @jenath
    @jenath Рік тому +1

    23:43 Can we appreciate how well done this part is?

  • @JaeminLee-nw3fn
    @JaeminLee-nw3fn Рік тому +1

    cant imagine how long this video took to make. This is amazing.

  • @vslazer6728
    @vslazer6728 Рік тому +3

    Galaxy 2 is my favorite game of all time, but admittedly it's only a sequel in concept. I think they wanted to do a sequel but also needed to make it different, and so they traded in the atmosphere and story of the first game for far expanded upon everything else. The gameplay mechanics, level design, music and difficulty are all cranked up to 11 where all those things (except the music) were more so in the 8-9 range in Galaxy 1. I'd argue that there is still atmosphere, just a completely different one than what Galaxy 1 had. Where Galaxy 1's atmosphere was deep, quiet and peaceful in a way, Galaxy 2 has an energetic and exciting atmosphere that matches all the cool new stuff and ideas that are taking place and honestly this invokes a serious sense of joy and magic when playing the game. It really depends on what kind of person you are as to which you prefer but both are undeniably masterpiece 10/10 games and always will be.

  • @thewhitewolf6715
    @thewhitewolf6715 Рік тому +3

    You know… Galaxy 2 is a masterpiece just like Galaxy 1. But the reason I love Galaxy 1 more is because it has better and deep story (a beautiful story actually) and I also love the music more. Galaxy 2 is better gameplay wise but I wish it had a deeper story like the first one.

  • @monsteroga
    @monsteroga Рік тому +2

    Galaxy 1 still reigns supreme in terms of storytelling, soundtrack, atmosphere, etc. But where Galaxy 2 shines is in replayability. I don't think any of the levels in Galaxy 2 were unfair or annoying to complete (except some of the green stars and perfect run.) In addition, the timer that appears after every mission makes it fun to try for new best times, even on levels that aren't racing based. Finally, the green stars were a much better way to unlock the final level compared to replaying the entire game, cutscenes, textboxes, and all in the first game. some of Galaxy 2's levels do feel like they are obstacle courses floating in the sky though, and the frequent use of the "blue sky and clouds" skybox really sells that feeling. However, they are still much more fun to replay than some of the stars in the first game. I still like Galaxy 1 more though but would replay both any day.

  • @SkyP9812
    @SkyP9812 Рік тому +3

    This might be a slightly unconventional opinion, but i actually think that SMG2s story mirrors SMG1s quite brilliantly. Sure, there's a few hiccups during the opening, but keeping a lot of it as subtext served the story quite well. Lubba getting to see Rosalina again was genuinely touching, even if Lubba as a character might have been a little unexplored.
    Also, one detail I remember quite fondly was how, whenever you are on a space near a worldportal on the map, the portal itself actually showed up on the faceship skybox.
    It's the little things like that that made young me absolutely fall in love with, not just SMG, but its sequel as well.
    (P.S. No matter how much I dislike the boobbot, it's still a better boss then megaleg, fight me I dare you)

  • @legokingcandy
    @legokingcandy Рік тому

    i have so many good memories with this game. i have too much nostalgia with it, and i will admit, im very biased towards it, but it has stood the test of time incredibly well. the graphics are still pretty good, the game play is some of the Mario franchises finest, and the music is sooooo good. even when i was little id play certain levels just to hear the music. I would love to see a galaxy game with the same feel, but better gameplay, better graphics, and hopefully even better music.

  • @gingeas
    @gingeas Рік тому

    this video was very well put together

  • @thatguyfromthere1168
    @thatguyfromthere1168 Рік тому +1

    Your videos are awesome. May I ask: were you born in the early 2000s? I ask cause I wanna find out if you were a DS / Wii kid as well 😊

  • @SamuelSantos_
    @SamuelSantos_ 8 місяців тому

    17:10 "Atmospheric" no pun intended

  • @qr-eh9es
    @qr-eh9es Рік тому +3

    i never liked mario galaxy 2 like i loved the first game.. i could never really wrap my hand around WHY !
    because i still loved all the levels, but something just felt off..
    after i heard your critique of the sequel, it all made sense ! the atmosphere of the two games is so different.., the story is what makes the first game so emotional and even kind of.. rushing ?
    and i think that collecting stars also feels more rewarding in the first game

  • @vladstepanov9767
    @vladstepanov9767 Рік тому

    OCD always sets in when you miss the star bits 5:41 😂

  • @JCjayne
    @JCjayne 4 місяці тому

    Great hook for a thumbnail! :3

  • @yokoverse
    @yokoverse 9 місяців тому +1

    i miss mario games having that whimsical and mysterious feeling galaxy had
    from the music to the stage design everything felt so different to any other mario game out and i feel that we need another game similar to it to differentiate it from other platformers/other mario games

    • @AkameGaKillfan777
      @AkameGaKillfan777 8 місяців тому

      Wonder comes out soon, and we're getting 2 RPG remakes

  • @jeang6588
    @jeang6588 10 місяців тому

    I will love both games for different reasons, some shared, some not.
    The fabulous mystique of the original, or the incredibly fun galaxies of the second one.
    The sense of loneliness mixed in with beauty of the original, or the whimsical and wonderful environments of the second one.
    I am glad that Super Mario Galaxy 2 decided not to be 1 but again, exploring different concepts of the boundless posibilities of the cosmos was done in very beautiful ways in both games.

  • @SM853
    @SM853 Рік тому

    I'd love a new SMG with the Koopalings. I'd also love to see its crazy aesthetics and concepts for a new 2D Mario that's not just sea/desert/forest/sky etc.

  • @kalebpinkston3495
    @kalebpinkston3495 10 місяців тому +1

    4:30 personally I think the reason the opening was simplified was because Shigeru Miyamoto put his foot down on a simple story direction. I like him and all but he has a serious hate boner for story more complex than ‘save the princess’ in a Mario game. A lot of the story in galaxy 1 was actually snuck in behind his back.

  • @XXXmarquise
    @XXXmarquise Рік тому

    "Galaxy 1 takes the cake for me" at 17:24, while exploring the Sweet Sweet Galaxy cake. I see what you did there 😊

  • @joshuachang5210
    @joshuachang5210 Рік тому +1

    The problem about Galaxy 2 for me is not only atmosphere and story, but also how little each Galaxy is explored. Each Galaxy only has 3 stars max, one of them being a comet. The progression we got in Honeyhive or Battlerock is just absent, and semi-open spaces open for exploration is also nonexistent other than Starshine Galaxy. Galaxy 2 might still have better levels individually, sure, but does it have a better collection of levels? Not necessarily so.

    • @callinater6133
      @callinater6133 Рік тому +1

      On the other hand, galaxy 1 has a crap ton of 1 star galaxies. The galaxies with 6/7 stars only make up 15 of the galaxies. It’s give or take really.

    • @joshuachang5210
      @joshuachang5210 Рік тому

      @@callinater6133 It's not give or take. Galaxy 1's approach makes more sense because some galaxies are better as 1-offs and some have more room for exploration. Galaxy 2 tries to fit every galaxy in the same mold, and in the end made some galaxies underutilized and some galaxies containing irrelevant missions (Melty Monster Galaxy being the most obvious example).

  • @BabyMatiny
    @BabyMatiny Рік тому

    i like starship mario way more than the comet observatory for 2 reasons:
    - It’s a lot easier and faster to navigate to different levels (it’s literally just one button)
    - There’s so much more to do on it. Comet observatory didn’t even have any starbits on it!

  • @weisstofall2615
    @weisstofall2615 Місяць тому

    Man, seeing the perfect run again made me feel both nostalgic and ptsd

  • @yesitsnando4406
    @yesitsnando4406 Рік тому +1

    what matters is that we got some of the best soundtracks from galaxy 1 and 2

  • @sacredstars2618
    @sacredstars2618 Рік тому

    I think they definitely did the best that they could, being an actual sequel to such a surprise hit as Galaxy was always going to be a tall order. Though atleast in my opinion in gameplay and levels it lives up to a similar quality to 1, though there's definitely some bosses and such that I prefer in 1, aka the final boss... 2s boss was pretty anticlimactic... but disregarding that I play it about just as often as 1.

  • @777Rowen
    @777Rowen Рік тому +2

    I need to get my hands on this game. I hope it gets a release for the Switch. I finally got to play the first one on the Switch as I never got on the Wii. Great discussion!

    • @Rigby103_epic
      @Rigby103_epic 11 місяців тому

      I really recommend you getting a Wii and modding it. Nintendo is not rereleasing the game any time soon and with how cheap the Wii is (it's cheaper than a Switch game with accessories), you'll be able to play this amazing console with some of the greatest Nintendo games ever. Mario Kart Wii, SMG1 and 2, Brawl, Twilight Princess, and all the GameCube games.

    • @777Rowen
      @777Rowen 11 місяців тому

      @@Rigby103_epic I had a Wii but it broke.

  • @patarratap4231
    @patarratap4231 Рік тому +1

    Since the last thing that matters to me personally in a Mario game is the story, I’m on the side of Galaxy 2 being the better game.
    I love them both very much, but the 2nd was just bigger, and more of what I wanted. And minor things like not preferring the map didn’t change that at all.

  • @spxops
    @spxops 3 місяці тому

    13:54 I think you might want to replay Mario 64 bc almost every level is floating in the middle of nowhere lmao

  • @nesradub360
    @nesradub360 5 місяців тому

    One thing I loved about the first Galaxy is actually how different it was to everything that came before it, but it definitely still felt like a Mario game. Galaxy 2 added back a lot of those elements that weren't in the first one (yoshi, checkpoint flags, the world map, a lot more music tracks from older games than the first game, and literally importing an entire level from 64), and many of the new elements in that game (i.e. those red & blue sided platforms that flip when you spin) became mainstays in future games, making the game feel less special overall. Also, the soundtrack in Galaxy 2 is much more generic and less inspired than the first game. Not to mention that there are a handful of things from the first game that are just not in the 2nd game at all, like the Red Star. The only two times I felt any emotion playing the 2nd game was during Cosmic Cove Galaxy and hearing Bowser's Galaxy Reactor at the end of The Perfect Run.

  • @vDREEGONv
    @vDREEGONv 25 днів тому

    I actually think the intro of Galaxy 2 is quite genius. You start off in 2D to reflect Mario's last adventure most likely being Super Mario Bros.Wii or just mainline Mario games usually being 2D. It's peaceful at first but then as you make your way to Peach's castle you see Bowser has taken control of it, almost as if you are discovering it for yourself once you make it there instead of the game telling you through a cutscene. It's a genuine surprise. In 2D Mario games you never run around Peach's castle, it's just kinda there, so once you make it to the castle the 3D element is introduced to let you know this is gonna be a 3D Mario adventure. I think calling the opening uninspired is missing a lot of the symbolism actually used in it. And while Galaxy 1's opening was beautiful and iconic I always felt it lacked a bit of color, something Galaxy 2 kinda fixes by using more popping colors. Galaxy 1 also makes it look like the mushroom kingdom is on a small planet, not really being faithful to how it looks in other games, but Galaxy 2 fixes that by making it actually look like the mushroom kingdom which makes it truly feel like you are stepping from the mainline mario games universe into a interstellar adventure, where in Galaxy 1 it kinda feels like it was always in a different universe than other mario games cause of how it looked. Galaxy 1's opening is definitely still better cause of how grand and beautiful it is, but Galaxy 2's opening does a lot more than you'd think at first and improves certain elements as well.

  • @zleepyeyez
    @zleepyeyez Рік тому +1

    I really hope that Nintendo makes all Mario Games available on Switch. At this point, they know how much their customers crave for these games. However, I also understand that the resources they have need to be considered, and not everything can be done at the same time. And they always need to check if they can provide them in the quality they originally had, and if and how this quality can be improved. Nintendo, please take my money 😢
    Edit: Forgot to mention that I love your videos, and if Nintendo doesn’t pay you, they really should. Every time I see one of your videos, I want to play the games instantly 😂 Good job 😊

  • @mk8-mkwil117
    @mk8-mkwil117 Рік тому +1

    I played the game this game before I even started playing the first game it’s was so fun I enjoyed playing Although I wish Nintendo combined both galaxy 1 & 2 and then I would have a chance of being on the Nintendo Switch but sadly they didn’t even though I enjoyed playing both galaxy games as a kid.

  • @user-bb2op9he1x
    @user-bb2op9he1x Рік тому +1

    galaxy 2: has the greatest level design in any 3d platformer out there
    mikester: is it bad?

  • @jolereplica
    @jolereplica 3 місяці тому

    I never played the Galaxy 2 for some reason. I only played the first one which I still kept with my Wii U that I play on every now and then.

  • @yoshiandtailsfan8797
    @yoshiandtailsfan8797 Рік тому +1

    I'm playing through Galaxy 2 right now, I love this game. The first Mario Galaxy is still my favorite Mario game of all time, but TBH this isn't that far off!

  • @zathuranth6745
    @zathuranth6745 Рік тому

    If you haven't touched on it yet, would love to hear your thoughts on Mario Super Sluggers. One of my childhood favorites.

  • @WC3fanatic997
    @WC3fanatic997 Рік тому +1

    The problem it has can be mostly summarized by having the same problem every other direct sequel any other groundbreaking, revolutionary masterpiece has; it's going to be directly compared to The First One(tm) and that will ultimately skew most people's perceptions about it.

  • @ike.0037
    @ike.0037 Рік тому +1

    9:05 Is the garden its own dimension, I mean we're in space how come theres blue skys and clouds all of a sudden

  • @JUSTANOTHERNINTENDOFAN
    @JUSTANOTHERNINTENDOFAN Рік тому +1

    0:58 Just sayin' in every video you say this line the same and keep doing it I love it 😆

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 Рік тому +2

    As a kid I always thought you _couldn't_ collect the green stars unless you played as Luigi. I later realized, to my dismay, that this isn't the case (you can still get them as Mario), but I like to pretend that its true. Lets call it my own personal head canon.

  • @kurosan0079
    @kurosan0079 11 місяців тому +2

    For all the game's faults in terms of storytelling and atmosphere, I just appreciate how Mario Galaxy 2 gave us one of the most batshit insane Bowser fight. That almost looked like something straight out of Bayonetta. It is criminal that this game didn't get included in the 3D All-Stars

  • @StarlightNkyra
    @StarlightNkyra 10 місяців тому

    I like the power up designed levels in 2 along with the bossfights, which think are some of the best I've seen from mario, and I like playing as Luigi or Mario. Saving up starlets in the bank was fun when I was younger, I guess. But that's where it ends for me. Galaxy 2 has a really hard time recapturing my attention to keep playing it, meaning I've only had one playthrough of the game, being my first, and with galaxy 1 I have replayed the game, and the postgame with Luigi around 8 times now. The atmosphere is so different in the two games. Not to mention, while I find 2's gameplay more fun, I find 1's more memorable. Hey, at least both of them have killer music.

  • @ginevragibilisco3690
    @ginevragibilisco3690 7 місяців тому

    I have a really strong bond with Super Mario Galaxy, I played it when I was younger with my father and honestly it gives me chills every time someone mentions it. I would really love to play another galaxy with my father once again.
    Love you papa❤️

  • @Waluigi2401
    @Waluigi2401 8 місяців тому

    Galaxy 2 to me was just as good as Galaxy 1. I remember being excited when someone told me there was gonna be a sequel and counting down the weeks until release once I found out the release date. I thoroughly enjoyed the game and it was the highlight of one of my middle school years
    My only complaint is like you said with the atmosphere and background. There seemed to be more levels with blue skies and clouds than starry sky levels which takes away the whole “galaxy/spacey” aesthetic. All in all though, it was a solid game that holds a special place in my heart ❤️

  • @andyhight9441
    @andyhight9441 Рік тому +1

    Hopefully we'll get a Switch release someday, it should have been included in 3D All Stars.

  • @markdevonport3274
    @markdevonport3274 4 місяці тому +1

    "Is Super Mario Galaxy 2 a bad sequel?"
    Is the earth flat?

  • @AaronJGranados
    @AaronJGranados Рік тому +4

    I'm so glad to see all the love for Galaxy 2. I've always loved it, but there's so much hate for it. They're both phenomenal games!

    • @NeoKokoro20
      @NeoKokoro20 Рік тому +5

      Really? I don't think I've seen one person hating on Galaxy 2, ever. At the worst, I see people who say it's not as good as the first one, but that's it.

    • @dhans9662
      @dhans9662 Рік тому +1

      @@NeoKokoro20 And the only reason they say that is cause "the story isn't as good" as if every Mario game doesn't have the same plot.

    • @AaronJGranados
      @AaronJGranados Рік тому +1

      @NeoKokoro20 Maybe what I mean is that what I seem to see online is mainly the negative aspects, and that to me meant hate. I should say it's good to hear "it's not a bad sequel", and it's good to see so many positives about it being discussed

  • @brandonow82
    @brandonow82 4 місяці тому

    One thing thing should of done is given mario/yoshii space suits since they are space based games

  • @youtubewontletmetypeagoodu8128

    You gave Mario galaxy so many compliments in the beginning that I actually started laughing. I also think it’s a good game, but there was literally a complement every sentence lol.

    • @ayoo.bruce01
      @ayoo.bruce01 Рік тому

      Cause it was that good FYM 😂 shit I even think the first ones fire

  • @SamuelSantos_
    @SamuelSantos_ 8 місяців тому

    Comparing SMG 1 and 2 is a bit like comparing Forza Horizon 1 and 2. 2 improved in gameplay terms by adding weather effects, a bigger map with more drivable space, tuning for the suspension/brakes/tyres/etc. and a bigger car roster. However, 1 had an unmatched atmosphere, with characters (both antagonists and allies) you're introduced to, cutscenes, an anonymous character who you play as that gets mentioned by other characters as you progress through the game, and attention to detail in the world and UI, all of which made it a very engaging game to play through.

  • @lanieniide8483
    @lanieniide8483 4 місяці тому

    I am heavily biased. Galaxy was my first Mario game ever and I fell in love. Even after going back and playing through the first galaxy I just still love Galaxy 2 since it has so many memories engraved in the game for me. It’s actually crazy, the soundtrack was so inspiring to me at a young age, that I’m now a music composer writing for orchestras!

    • @trysubscribe25
      @trysubscribe25 20 днів тому

      How to write orchestra

    • @trysubscribe25
      @trysubscribe25 20 днів тому

      I always want to learn from Mozart but at last I composed sth in a mess

  • @PickleNickleLive
    @PickleNickleLive 3 місяці тому

    Super Mario Galaxy 2 (imo) is an absolute gift. It’s almost the absolute perfect platforming type game. They genuinely take everything possible from the previous game and make it even better. I much enjoy the story and much enjoy how they added levels from the original game to World S. I actually really like the HUB and very much like how you go from level to level. There are things I like more about Galaxy 1, but more I like about Galaxy 2. I’d go as far as to say Galaxy 2 is my FAVORITE game of all time.

  • @islaamSama
    @islaamSama Рік тому +11

    Peace be upon you guys and ABSOLUTELY NOT! Sure I missed Rosalina and the Observatory but we got fun levels, YOSHI ( woo :D), Luigi without having to collect all stars, and to this day the Starship Mario’s theme always follows me around in my head. God I love that theme. :] (P.S. would you rather have a Galaxy 3, Sunshine 2 or Odyssey 2? I want a Sunshine 2…)

    • @landofbol1098
      @landofbol1098 Рік тому

      And the game brings back Comet Observatory theme along with Rosalina at some point

    • @MS-zb2ht
      @MS-zb2ht Рік тому +1

      Mario 128 🦄🎥🎬👀😊👍✨🎤🎼😍😶😐😑😒😪🙅🙎💆⛑👊😚😣😳😍😇👀🔥⛽😍😘👰👄😍😘😍😍😜↗😎🚦😍😍😍😉😊☺😘👉😄😃😊👫👫👫🏈👊👌😇👼🕒🔢🕞😬😅😐😒😑😫😢😰😭💀😊😇🎄🎅☃️❄️❤😄💃💃💃📅🎒👝👛👜🔌🔋🔋📲😍😇😃🐱💙🐶

  • @GamingG4276
    @GamingG4276 Рік тому +6

    No offense man, but are you sure about that final Bowser fight? I've heard people call it one of Bowser's worst final fights because that second phase is way too easy. But I still respect your opinion of course.

    • @NuiYabuko
      @NuiYabuko Рік тому +1

      The problem is that people online usually view those things through only difficulty, easy - bad, difficult - good, when there's so much more to it.

    • @avocadeous
      @avocadeous Рік тому +1

      Difficulty isn’t the only problem imo. Bowser is easy in 1, but that feels like a better final boss because it feels like bowser is pulling all the stops. He utilises most of the skills that you have learnt in game in order to create a boss that feels like a test of your skills. Bowser will turn into one of those rock things that you see in the first level, he’ll turn into a spiky ball which you need to use the green plants to counter and he’ll spin attack you, which you can counter with your own spin. Galaxy 2 doesn’t have this. It’s simply the same fight as before, but with more lasers and fire, which we’ve already seen. The setting is also a big point. In galaxy 1, you’re in the center of the universe. You can see the massive reactor whilst you’re fighting. In galaxy 2, you’re in the same void you were in that last two times. The difficulty is the cherry on the cake here.
      There are other factors, like the buildup and payoff, but I’m only focusing on the fight itself here.

    • @mrpro538
      @mrpro538 9 місяців тому

      It feels more climactic

  • @BoxCarBoy12
    @BoxCarBoy12 2 місяці тому

    Gameplay wise, 2 improved a ton upon 1 but that was it and it basically felt like the same game in every other aspect. IMO it was more a refinement of the previous game, a version 1.5 or a really big DLC. That meant for me it lacked the novelty and magic I felt when playing the first Galaxy; I got the minimum number of stars necessary to complete the game for and couldn't be bothered to 100% it like I did with 1.