Here is my buddy’s 2004 with stage 4 comp cams, he installed himself, and changed out his terrible dumper exhaust to pypes cat back “beast” exhaust set up.
These cams are far too large for a pi intake equipped 2v. You could likely fit them without too much ptv issue but running a proper mhs or crower cam spec'd for the combo would average more power and still sound great. Id run a upgraded spring with any cam.
Tyler Murpht yes springs were changed, as for head work there isn’t any. Car runs strong still as a daily driver. It’s a buddy’s car and he wanted those cams because they are aggressive
Even though the cams are rated as a "stage 4" they don't have a huge cam lobe to cause an issue with the PTV clearance. Only thing that was done on install was putting cams in and putting it to factory timing, the car to this day has a bama tune in it lol at least to my knowledge.
@@Kick.Blacklist the car is running stock heads, and factory timing marks were used because the owner didn’t degree the cams themselves, at the time of purchase (nearly 5 years ago) the cams were considered a stage 4. They didn’t need anything special to run the cams in the car. As for my poor communication on the previous comment I probably relied when I was at work and it’s hard not to write a book as a comment. 😅
@@Kick.Blacklist also seeing as the comment was over a year old I don’t know if I was the one who replied or another that has access to the account. Been inactive for some time because I haven’t been able to make any videos worth the time (kinda lost interest) and work has been overwhelming the past year lol
Nothing that was crazy, the guy added a updated intake manifold and bought BBK throttle body and CAI. Replaced all his timing components when he was in there and all the followers just to have everything new, plus the car had almost 175k miles on it
Joseph Garcia that was with the new tune installed, but had it revised afterwards, cars still running strong and it’s been two years since all the work was done. Just didn’t really have a active UA-cam account to post the video lol
4:10 Gears, stage 2 clutch, bbk Trottle body, cold air intake, catless exhaust, and updated intake manifold so its not that cheap plastic design lol and its on a bama tune.
@@outlawmustangsgarage2887 I've had good luck with with my 2011 crown Vic pi intake and rtv'd NPI crossover on my 1996. It already had the aluminum crossover replacement NPI intake but still leaked. I'll be going to a Vic jr sooner than later tho and will be done with the crossover problems.
@@gsc2866 I agree ran 270s for awhile and both engines has a very small hairline nic on all 8 cylinders. With stock components and lining the dots up dot to dot.
@@gsc2866 just depends on the grind of the cam, at the time the cam that was purchased was a stage 4, but was made by comp cams and said it didnt require notching, just because its a higher stage cam doesn't mean the lobes will be massive. But this isn't my car, its a friends car lol
thats really a trick question, some will say a tune is needed and others won't, for this vehicle at the time a bama tune was uploaded into the car since it had supporting mods and wanted it to run correctly, however i have heard of people not tuning them because they dont have vvt like the newer 3v engines.
@@lisareaves8390 to be honest off the shelf cams will never have a serious heavy lope unless you get thumper cams, from what i have heard and seen on modular engines, however you can always call comp cams, or if you know someone that grinds cams you can have them build you a set!
Think I’m going to have to call BS on stage 4 cam. My son got a stage 3 and it’s got a hell of a lot more lope to it than yours. Listen to other videos on you tube.
You can call BS all you want, when purchased back in 2015-2016 it was a comp stage 4 from American muscle, they did tell us at the time or purchase that it was a different sound compared to their other stages, and just because lope is choppier doesn’t mean anything, my turbo mustang has less lope than this new edge but is still more aggressive on specs. Just sayin.
@@outlawmustangsgarage2887 hey I checked on American muscle but they aren’t there can you please find some for me I have a 2007 Ford sport trac 3v and really want stage 4 cams but can’t find it
@@GamerBros-hk5gn American muscle only offers so much, theres really not a stage 4 cam for the 3v head design unless you go with custom ground cams, you should check out comp cams website and see what kind of cams they have to offer directly. personally i love the sound of a thumpr cam but performance isnt the best.
The stage 1-5 on comp cams website is divided into 2 different types of cams, high lift pi cams and low lift NPI cams, the stage 3 are a PI cam with .550 lift, the stage 3 are a NPI cam with 0.50 lift. Also tuning, exhaust, intake, and other factors would affect how much it chops, to me personally this thing chops like crazy but to each their own.
Sounds nasty! 😈
Sweet im looking into putting cams in my 04 2v, so i was just sobering what it took to run them I appreciate your response👍👍
These cams are far too large for a pi intake equipped 2v. You could likely fit them without too much ptv issue but running a proper mhs or crower cam spec'd for the combo would average more power and still sound great. Id run a upgraded spring with any cam.
Whats the grind specs on the cams?
Changed springs I assume? And if so what else are dine ti the heads to use that big of a cam?
Tyler Murpht yes springs were changed, as for head work there isn’t any. Car runs strong still as a daily driver. It’s a buddy’s car and he wanted those cams because they are aggressive
How did you manage with the PTV clearance? Unless you’re running trickflowheads
Even though the cams are rated as a "stage 4" they don't have a huge cam lobe to cause an issue with the PTV clearance. Only thing that was done on install was putting cams in and putting it to factory timing, the car to this day has a bama tune in it lol at least to my knowledge.
@@outlawmustangsgarage2887 that makes no sense at all
@@Kick.Blacklist the car is running stock heads, and factory timing marks were used because the owner didn’t degree the cams themselves, at the time of purchase (nearly 5 years ago) the cams were considered a stage 4. They didn’t need anything special to run the cams in the car. As for my poor communication on the previous comment I probably relied when I was at work and it’s hard not to write a book as a comment. 😅
@@Kick.Blacklist also seeing as the comment was over a year old I don’t know if I was the one who replied or another that has access to the account. Been inactive for some time because I haven’t been able to make any videos worth the time (kinda lost interest) and work has been overwhelming the past year lol
What’s the exact cam
What are your shift points with the stage 4 cams?
with the stage 4 cams i think the owner of the car gained roughly 500 rpm over stock if im not mistaken.
@@outlawmustangsgarage2887 ok so that's about 6500rpm?
@@krownvikkhris3004 correct, to my knowledge i believe thats what the specs were for that cam grind.
@@outlawmustangsgarage2887 ok, because I'd love to put those in my 06 P71 crownvic when I get my vortech supercharger
@@krownvikkhris3004 It would be an awesome set up that for sure man!
What upgrades did you do for this cam? I’m looking to get a stage 4. Anything I should be concerned with or any problems you ran into
Nothing that was crazy, the guy added a updated intake manifold and bought BBK throttle body and CAI. Replaced all his timing components when he was in there and all the followers just to have everything new, plus the car had almost 175k miles on it
@@outlawmustangsgarage2887 do u gotta mess with the head or will stock heads do
Or valves
@@josetamez9500 didn’t have to mess with any of it. Stock timing marks no adjustments and worked like a charm
Was that before or after a tune?
Joseph Garcia that was with the new tune installed, but had it revised afterwards, cars still running strong and it’s been two years since all the work was done. Just didn’t really have a active UA-cam account to post the video lol
OUTLAW MUSTANGS-AR do you know what else is done to it?
4:10 Gears, stage 2 clutch, bbk Trottle body, cold air intake, catless exhaust, and updated intake manifold so its not that cheap plastic design lol and its on a bama tune.
@@outlawmustangsgarage2887 I've had good luck with with my 2011 crown Vic pi intake and rtv'd NPI crossover on my 1996. It already had the aluminum crossover replacement NPI intake but still leaked. I'll be going to a Vic jr sooner than later tho and will be done with the crossover problems.
OUTLAW MUSTANGS-AR how much power was it laying down
And pistons needed to be cut for clearance or changed?
nope, all stock
@@outlawmustangsgarage2887 ain't no way anything bigger then stage 2 needs to valve reliefs
@@gsc2866 I agree ran 270s for awhile and both engines has a very small hairline nic on all 8 cylinders. With stock components and lining the dots up dot to dot.
@@gsc2866 just depends on the grind of the cam, at the time the cam that was purchased was a stage 4, but was made by comp cams and said it didnt require notching, just because its a higher stage cam doesn't mean the lobes will be massive. But this isn't my car, its a friends car lol
@@gsc2866 run the stage 4 comp cams (XE274H) in my 02 gt, no PTV issues and no degreeing needed
😎👍👊👊
Now power numbers?
if I could get him to take it to a dyno, I would post it, but he's slacking lol
What tune are you using
The tune was a bama tune from American muscle at the time
Hey.. did you have to put a tune in yours
thats really a trick question, some will say a tune is needed and others won't, for this vehicle at the time a bama tune was uploaded into the car since it had supporting mods and wanted it to run correctly, however i have heard of people not tuning them because they dont have vvt like the newer 3v engines.
@@outlawmustangsgarage2887 awesome .. we have it running and it runs well has the mean growl but still.looking for that heavy lope..lol
@@lisareaves8390 to be honest off the shelf cams will never have a serious heavy lope unless you get thumper cams, from what i have heard and seen on modular engines, however you can always call comp cams, or if you know someone that grinds cams you can have them build you a set!
What brand cams?
Look them up on American muscle
Literally says it right in the title
Nick Ferrara and why you telling me for Ik what those cams are
hey karl they are comp cams, bought through American Muscle several years back now.
Think I’m going to have to call BS on stage 4 cam. My son got a stage 3 and it’s got a hell of a lot more lope to it than yours. Listen to other videos on you tube.
You can call BS all you want, when purchased back in 2015-2016 it was a comp stage 4 from American muscle, they did tell us at the time or purchase that it was a different sound compared to their other stages, and just because lope is choppier doesn’t mean anything, my turbo mustang has less lope than this new edge but is still more aggressive on specs. Just sayin.
@@outlawmustangsgarage2887 hey I checked on American muscle but they aren’t there can you please find some for me I have a 2007 Ford sport trac 3v and really want stage 4 cams but can’t find it
@@GamerBros-hk5gn American muscle only offers so much, theres really not a stage 4 cam for the 3v head design unless you go with custom ground cams, you should check out comp cams website and see what kind of cams they have to offer directly. personally i love the sound of a thumpr cam but performance isnt the best.
The stage 1-5 on comp cams website is divided into 2 different types of cams, high lift pi cams and low lift NPI cams, the stage 3 are a PI cam with .550 lift, the stage 3 are a NPI cam with 0.50 lift. Also tuning, exhaust, intake, and other factors would affect how much it chops, to me personally this thing chops like crazy but to each their own.