TRUTH REVEALED! Is MURS Better Than GMRS? MURS vs GMRS vs FRS - Which Is Better? GMRS or MURS?
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- I compare MURS to GMRS, and MURS with FRS and explain the differences, and which might be better for you. I also answer the question: Can you use a Baofeng UV-5R on MURS frequencies / Is a UV5R legal on MURS
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Witty and entertaining opening
00:14 - Is MURS better than GMRS? NO!
01:09 - How I have become a MURS expert
01:44 - MURS explained - without boring you to death
02:32 - Is it legal to talk on MURS channels using a Baofeng UV-5R?
02:53 - I get some help from a HAM radio expert about using a UV-5R on MURS
04:24 - Is MURS better than GMRS?
05:00 - Is MURS better than FRS?
05:20 - FRS compared to MURS - Is MURS better than FRS?
08:21 - Should you use an FRS radio or a MURS radio?
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The "Sad Hams" don't appreciate Randy's satirical and dry humor. He's a riot to listen to. And he IS informative. He's brought his style of humor to UA-cam and it's a welcome change.
Please do NOT change your style of making these videos.....
I hope after I share this it will gain you more views as you deserve more attension bud.
We have used your favorite radio on MURS and GMRS in some situations. We did find that MURS gave us better extreme range at the same wattage. We opt for MURS in busy situations that need long range strictly because nobody else uses it, lol
Lower frequency usually traveler further.
MURS is vhf and GMRS is uhf. Both have advantages and disadvantages. A friend helped me do a range test a few years ago. I set up a 5/8 wave antenna for each at a park that was 12 miles away from my friend. We were able to talk on vhf (murs) but when we tried using uhf (gmrs) we didn't get any indication that the other had even attempted to transmit.
Lower frequency usually travel further.
“ I don’t have a teleprompter “. That made me laugh out loud 😂. Thanks Randy.
A kid I went to high school with came down with Murs when we were kids. He was never the same......
😆😆😆
Dude...your sense of humor is hysterical. PLUS I learn a few things from your content.
I got MURS for my kids and family for the better outdoor performance, uncrowded bands, better quality (than FRS) radios and unlicensed use. They love em and they just work. A no-display MURS radio with a single rotary channel selector (with only 5 options) is much simpler to operate for the non-radio user than many of the GMRS or even FRS options with more channels, displays, more buttons and "privacy" codes. I love em for the zero-support factor.
I like it on my boat vhf is OP on flat terrain but when I moved back to the Midwest it became much less useful
Randy, I absolutely love your videos. Your sense of humor is very much like mine. I'm a ham KC3KXK and a huge Jeep fan. I've owned 7 jeeps in my time and I built a 1980 CJ5 that would do wheelies. I was also a desert rat. I lived in Palm Springs, Cathedral City, Palm Desert, and Desert Hot Springs. I also visited the Salton Sea many times on my way to the Anza Borrego bad lands or Glamis . It was sad visiting the Sea knowing it was dying. Thanks for shedding some light on MURS and the amazing work on the Salton Sea. I moved home to Pennsylvania to raise a family. Now I'm a little melancholy about those awesome days in the desert. Again, Thank You. Scott p.s. I fondle my UV5R as well.
FUN FACT: Wal-Mart will get mad at you for using MURS frequencies even though the frequencies don't belong to them!
@Trevor Sawicki Only if you are in the walmart store or parking lot.
Plus walmart will only be using one murs channel, that leaves the other channels open for you to use without interrupting them.
Tell them in the most distinctive way to - pound sand….
Walmart’s is grandfathered in on those frequencies…
@@TwoFeatherChannel The Walmart I go to uses both MURS Ch.4 and Ch.5, one channel is for management use.
@@dreamweb69 no they are just cheap and its a free to use frequency.
I been using MURS for over 3 years. I love it. I've never heard anyone speaking other than the 7 radio's I own. Perfect for farm use.
The art work is getting even better! Cue the Retracto Alpaca!
Just a note: A major issue with MURS is Costco, Sams, Walmart and other retailers use MURS and one is literally on every corner. Also schools often use MURS radios as they are sold as higher-quality, cheaper license-free worksite radios at Sams/Costco for commercial industrial service. Businesses are getting what's available at cost. Most radio dealers want to sell a company a plan with maintenance, engineering, frequency coordination, consulting, and other services nowadays rather than just a few radios programmed to a frequency or two. A lot of businesses and contractors are purchasing them to avoid these fees and costs and don't really care about occasional interference.
FRS was the same back when the "bubblepack" came out before cell phones. FRS use seems to have dropped dramatically since. This is good for GMRS users interference-wise, but walmart may stop selling the bubblepacks due to demand!
The aspect most GMRS users didn't like before was bubblepack-interference, but now that usage dropped, seems to be a big selling point allowing everyone to communicate with each other, licensed or not! We are using FRS/GMRS in our rural coastline communities with a channel for each comunity. Users can use a community repeater if licensed or talk simplex on the channel if not. Basically each community has a "party-line" FRS/GMRS channel! This is great for emergencies and brings back the "neighborly" friendliness and outreach of everyone in these small communities, especially since cell-service is spotty and non-existant off the coastline.
Btw... Love your vids! Shared them with friends! Keep up the good work!
I tested MURS finally, due to a friend's business having several handsets we could borrow.
Although the theory says that MURS should punch farther, get more Fars, than GMRS or FRS, sadly, it does not in the urban environment of Dallas. It's not even close. FRS in the exact same tests was getting .75-1.5 miles through trees, hills, and (many) buildings, whereas MURS was getting maybe .5 miles at the most. (And GMRS outperformed both by ridiculous factors.)
Also, in an urban environment, we were picking up a LOT of distortion and noise and other spurious RF bullshit, and we're sure it's because many wireless devices that are not radios - security cameras, gate openers, etc - use MURS frequencies.
I would note that when we DID get signal, the signal clarity was amazing. Sounded like the person was standing three feet away. But specifically in the urban environment of Dallas, MURS ain't a great idea. We may go test it in the woods some weekend, but it was total failboat in the metro area.
Didn't MURS come with Frankensense ?
Lol
I believe so. It should be in the box. 🤣😂
Sometimes, even gold.
I'm an old Happy Ham, I enjoy your no BS approach to everyday issues in the radio realm. As an OHH I have a lot of experience with all the Sad Hams and self appointed Radio Police. Not only are they full of Sh!t in most cases they cause distension and provoke people to act like fools. Keep putting the truth out there and I'll watching and sharing!
At ground level on my families hunting property, particularly in the summer or on the acres we grow Christmas trees, my Retevis RT47V's(MURS) perform just as well as my RT76's(GMRS) despite putting out 2w less. They absolutely blow away any FRS radios in those conditions. They aren't quite as good as my Kenwood TK-370's or TK-372's(also GMRS), but that's a testament to the more selective receive side of the Kenwoods over anything else.
The big advantage of MURS over GMRS, for me and why I own several, is that I can hand them to anyone and get reasonable performance outdoors. I have a GMRS license that covers my family, and even my own repeater, but sometimes it just isn't the solution.
It may not make it 'better' but another nice feature of MURS is you can use voice scrambling. That is no longer allowed on GMRS unless you use an old radio that had it(assuming that feature has been grandfathered in). The motorola MURS radios support 3 different voice scramblers. I have a set of these and they are quite nice aside from the lack of a removable antenna.
MURS also has one other difference that can be seen as an advantage: It has two channels (4 and 5) that can be used in wideband. Channels 1-3 are all narrowband-only, though. That's theoretically and *technically* an advantage, right? FRS might have 22 (crowded in some areas) channels... but they're *all* limited to narrowband. That is, unless you pay for (or already possess) a GMRS license and use a legal GMRS-certified radio (that's not made by Midland).
Five free-to-use, clean (ie. not much use) frequencies/channels with the optional wideband on two of them... that really doesn't sound bad at all to me!
I'm am ammeter radio enthusiast and I enjoyed the video. Both do have a purpose. I got a cheap box full of Icom VHF ht's and they're great around the farm on murs. No traffic but my own.
GMRS transmits roughly the same car to car. If I built a go box i'd have both in it just to "have it all." People also forget the importance of antenna and height.
You really should just take the technician class exam. It’s so easy and we need dudes like you.
I worked with a volunteer emergency group a while back. Generally they would have used Ham radios, but had quite a few folks working who did not have licenses. They have quite a few U...s, but needed to use a non-licensed band, so they programmed the U...s to use MURS. Tsk, tsk. The FCC did not send in their SWAT teams. I have programmed my U... to use GMRS/FRS, MURS, Marine Band, etc. frequencies for emergency communications. Never know what will be used during a catastrophe. Oh, BTW, MURS and FRS are both max transmit of 2 watts.
I've been watching for quite some time first time comment I have a pair of murs radio and I have a gmrs radio even though m u r s is limited to two Watts I like it because not too many people use the murs frequencies except Walmart but on the other hand the m u r s radios are not widely publicized as the FRS radios and gmrs I think there is way more traffic on FRS I use my gmrs to talk on repeaters with my friends so it depends what I'm going to use the radios for keep on making videos you're down to earth and you tell the truth much appreciated
I recently found your channel and just got my gmrs license! I have a [forbidden radio] on the way super excited to get into the hobby
Ham, FRS, GMRS, MURS and CB all have their own applications. One is no better than the other depending on your needs. I’m a ham. Plan on getting a GMRS license as well. The more communication options you have the better off you’ll be.
LOVE your vids and humor. I'm more of a "hit the button when I want to transmit" sort of ham. I like to listen to others talk about all things radio, regardless of type. I'm new and enjoy the simplicity of my own equipment, but I marvel at the ingenuity of those that deep-dive into the radio sea - so to speak. Probably with any hobby there are warring factions and the instigators will always be trying to prove something or "win" some argument - all while talking down to others. Nobody wins with assery like that.
Your videos are awesome and very informative.
And your spot on about MURS vs GMRS! I could barely get a mile with MURS on wide band and it was usually less than a half mile if line of sight was broke at all. GMRS on the other hand, went about 3 miles in a city area and that was on handhelds were one was in a house and one was in a car.
I told the kids they can use the radios with MURS turned on whenever they want to play with the radios.
Murs will go much farther without obstructions, put an antenna on each car.
Gmrs has much better peneration so it will work a lot better car to car without external antennas.
Thank you for this video. I did not know anything about MURS before and now I appreciate it as an alternative to FRS for short range communication.
Also, I love the video style!
hey I love your videos and this was another helpful one. you mentioned you had ordered some Retevis MURS radios and I will have to look to see if you reviewed them... anyway I could have saved you the time- they are really terrible and a poor introduction to MURS. I know this because I had purchased a couple used Motorola commercial radios (RM2050) and really liked them and then added a couple of the Retevis ones from Amazon. no comparison. I think it is the receiver sensitivity of the Motorola is just exponentially better. tl;dr don't judge MURS by those things lol
The camera man (himself) even cut him off 🤣👍 EPIC!!!
I LOVE you style of humor and the way you teach, very entertaining and straight forward
As a happy ham i really appreciate your GMRS vids! Now MURS too?! Glad to see it!
One point here i would add... VHF frequencies (like ham 2 meter and MURS) are more effectince across terrain than UHF (ham 70cm and GMRS). VHF will hug terrain and flow better through hills and valleys than UHF which likes line of sight. BUT i think you nailed it when you discuss "performance". MURS cannot out-perform GMRS when it is limited to FCC wattage. GMRS wins hands down. Baofengs in hilly woods, both programmed for GMRS and MURS at 2w the MURS wins, but bump-up the wattage to the "legal" limits and GMRS prevails - power baby!
Thanks for the channel, keep up the good work!
FRS is cheap and basically a throwaway radio (didn’t sat the frequencies, the radio). I bought 2 frs radios for a trip I’m taking then I may not going to use them.
I’m a ham operator but my stepson isn’t (yet) so that’s why the frs.
Thanks for the explanation really informative.
MURS Radios are used heavily in Maine with log trucks, because they have a short range and the only 5 channels. They use them to call out the mile markers so they don't get surprised by a loaded log truck coming around the corner. Once the truckers get on a normal road they switch to C/B or don't use a radio. Our local Walmart uses MURS handhelds to communicate in the store. People that hunt or fish or just like to ride in the woods buy Baofeng's and listen on them.
The log truck drivers 20 years ago used to use Marine VHF radios (yes it was illegal). They were interfering with ships on the St. Lawrance SeeWay. Both the Canadian and US goverments got involved. I think the FCC told them that MURS would work for what they needed.
Thats the only uses I know of.
Humor with straight talk!! Priceless!!! Ordering one of your shirts! (my opinion shirt) Subscribed as well!
So we meet again. Lol. Bro I watched the whole salton sea documentary…..respect sir.
Hams have awards for Worked All States or Worked All Continents. MURS should have an award for Worked All Walmarts. I'm pretty sure every one of them uses MURS.
I keep hearing there are only 5 MURS channels. I do know that to be technically true, as they're programmed into my HT's. However, I use MURS all the time (even when I'm in the local Walmart). Never once have I heard myself coming through the staff radios, nor have I heard one of them. It's my understanding that some business still have some of the older MURS freqs allotted under grandfathering usage. Unless I've read wrong, there are many MURS channels still in use by corporations that are not the "free use" ones that everyone else uses. Is that the case?
Question with preface. I am new to the UV-5R. I bought it to use with my local volunteer fire department. (just joined and I don't get the good radios yet, lol.) But I have my radio programed with several channels and when I tell it to Scan It will stop on my Dispatch station when they are sending out tones and messages but it will only stay on that station for 5 seconds before it goes back to scan. How do I get it to stay on that station for longer than 5 seconds or till traffic is over?
Just bought the KG-uv9d plus, I am really excited to get this radio but also would like to know more about the the radio. Please help. Thanks.... love your channel!!!
I use MURS because there is very little traffic, I also use the UV-5R. I get good range in the woods. Love all your vid, you are awesome, I have learned a great deal from you, Thanks!
Only perk to Murs is the driveway/property proximity alarms that are available for it. I only use Murs for said magnetic and motion sensors.
Don't change a thing! I thoroughly enjoy your videos and personality.
FYI, Gmrs and Murs bands are related harmonics of each other, just like 2m and 70cm. A dual band antenna can be connected to two radios through a U/V diplexer for dual band transmit and receive, assuming you want to stay in compliance with FCC regs on permissible radio types. Might come in handy in certain situations or for certain people and that diplexer allows for simultaneous usage too.
Also, 2 watts pushing a 4 or more element VHF yagi can go a LONG way and isnt as attentuated by vegetation as much as UHF. Height is might on these bands so the higher, the better.
Just throwing this out there because I almost never hear anyone mention it when discussing MURS and why I'm personally interested in it... is you can can operate it unattended in various modes. As a maker/hacker kinda guy, I'm thinking this might make a cool platform for remote control or telemetry. Seems like the only commercial applications I've seen are for long range security system annunciators. In my neighborhood if I scan the MURS band I hear a robo-voice saying things like "South Door Breech", "Vehicle Proximity Alert", etc. - As for what's better... obviously you know the best is what works for your particular application.. very subjective.
So which is better. Marine radios which I is understand are VHF or Aviation radios which are also VHF or GRMS? I just paid for my GRMS license. I look forward to talking on your repeater via the app on the Internet. Just waiting to get call sign..
Regards from the heartland. South Central Indiana USA.
Tim.
You videos always give me a good chuckle...
NAR, best YT radio channel EVER. Sense of humor is spot on, love it. And BTW, am a LHO, just not a sad one. That was hysterical.
How a HAPPY HAM can effectively extend the range of unlicensed MURS or FRS HT radios:
• I program my Anytone AT-799UV (a/k/a Radioddity DB-20G) (or my Yaesu FT-857d) to transmit on 147.52 MHz and receive on 151.82 MHz using the programming software (or keypad, in the case of the Yaesu).
• I either: program the MURS HT to transmit on 151.82 MHz and receive on 147.52 MHz using the programming software; or if it has a primary and secondary channels, I can use the keypad to set the primary channel to 151.82 MHz and the secondary channel to 147.52 MHz.
• The same principle can be used with FRS and the 440 MHz ham band.
The higher power of the Anytone (or Yaesu) and connection to a better/higher antenna effectively extends the range of the unlicensed handhelds.
Licensed GMRS users can apply the same principles as well, especially on the FRS channels that overlap with the GMRS frequencies!
Thanks for making efficient use of my time by posting this about murs.
The thumbs down are from the red headed step children.
Dose the Tidraido H-8 Gen2
Compatible and download murs.
Thanks again just like usual you're badass
I have a MURS radio, but I don't get good range. I use this when driving or when hiking. And when Im with my buddy, he can be just behind me in the vehicle and its very staticky... Also when hiking, we don't have to be that far apart to loose communication
When using in the UHF bands, it is really ment for cities with large buildings.
UHF can go around corners and is useful / helpful when in buildings
You are correct, that's why NYPD uses UHF vs. Maine police use VHF.
@@djsoundzentertainment42 They also use alot more watts to push the UHF band
Would like to see a MURS vs GMRS Handheld test.
Me too.
Me 3! And cross and repeaters.
@@NoName-OG1 MURS can not use repeaters
Our boy scouts used to use frs walkie-talkies in the hills at camp. Had many dead spots... frs radio signals can not make it over the hills.
We got 4 watt digital dmr radios with full time voice scrambling digital encryption and GPS location coordinates pinging capabilities and upgraded tuned gain vhf antennas now we can reach our signals much further over more hills.
Oh yeah...
We got a non-profit organization fcc business license.
It only cost $70 for 10 years....
Essentially $0.02 a day . Same as GMRS fee at the time.
I am aware fee pricing is changing soon.
Our frequencies are near the murs frequencies... but more better er ...
Can any other radio frequency work with murs? Like mobile ham radio, etc?
Update: Starting in 2017, the FCC allows SMS, Location, and some other digital services over GMRS. I'll be filing for a GMRS license shortly
MURS is used here in Maine by the loggers in the North Maine Woods to coordinate use of the logging roads. Some listeners that are up here in the woods may want MURS in order to listen for and avoid the heavy logging trucks.
Great video! As a happy Ham I would encourage you to get a ham license as well. Even the entry level Technician license will allow you to explore the various digital voice modes that allow world wide communication from a hand held radio if you can get any internet connection. You can send SMS text messages to cell phones if you have no cell phone coverage in your location via APRS. You also have limited HF privileges using CW (Morse code) on some HF bands. Just a thought, have fun. 73
Steve
I blast MURS with 50 watts with my yaesu mobil radio FTM-7250d. I regularly talk to my buddy 14 miles away, works great. 2 watts pfff...
You must not be a ham radio operator, otherwise you would just transmit using the amateur 2 meter band
Good information. ❤️ the retracto alpaca btw.
Will a gmrs amplifier outperform any low frequency advantage Murs might have in a mountainous terrain? I'm in the mountains of San Diego trying to reach the desert to the east
It depends.
Thank you for your poignant review of MURS. We like it because as you mentioned it works better in the woods. A NA-771 on my 'totally legal' radio does everything we need on our 30 acre property; with no other traffic. Thanks again.
MURS uses longer wavelength. Longer wavelength = longer antenna. Longer antenna = better swordfights. You're welcome.
I'm going to whip with my 102 inch CB whip and yes it will leave a mark.
Dang..
That was Funny as Heck...lol
Don’t forget you can use DMR or other digital modes on MURS by the very nature of the service. Not true encryption, but it prevents the casual listening via analog.
I have some MURS radios and they're great and there is never anyone else interfering on the channels and no license fee, so I do prefer MURS.
I need some radios that are programmable with a computer but have no buttons so I can hand them to somebody and they can't mess them up and I know for a fact they're only going to be home so many preset frequencies anybody got any suggestions
I know I can lock a handheld radio but they'll figure out a way to mess it up anyway
Great video, Randy. Thanks for your time.
with MURS and FRS being both being non licensed allocations they would be most comparable to each other, my experience is the VHF goes through forest and brush better than UHF that said the new FM CB may be even better 27Mhz 4w. 2023
I have MURS radios. (Why? Because I'm a radio geek) I agree, GMRS is the logical choice overall. But... it is a lot quieter.
@00:28 "right before he'd say "here, let me fix you up a drink" 🤣🤣 😱😱😱
I think it's a fair point to also mention that MURS allows encryption. I am not a MURS user, for all of the above reasons mentioned in this video, but I think for testing encryption, it could be useful.
Then again I am just getting into the world of radio communications. Only acquiring my GMRS license a month ago, and currently looking into HAM (simply because GMRS is dead in my area). I think all spectrums have their use. As for MURS, unless I am testing encryption, then I see no point.
Personally my friends and I prefer MURS simply because the frequency bends better over mountains. Screw the two watt limit ! We use 75 watt radio's to get the job done.
What radio is doing 75w on Murs?
@@forgetyourlife Any radio that can tune a MURS freq and spit out that much wattage? Probably not a HT, that battery drain would be epic, but plenty of base stations can spit out that much.
I'm a big fan. My question is comparing the transmit distance of the Murs and Gmrs at or close to the same power level. Frs .5 watts to me doesn't compare to Murs 2w. Yes I am a Happy Ham N7OLD. Thanks.
As the host stated, FRS may now transmit at two (2) watts, thus setting up the head-to-head test against MURS.
GMRS will work better in steel and concrete high rises. It works better in dense urban environments.
MURS will work better out in the open.
If you're serious about setting up local comms, GMRS is superior. This is primarily because GMRS allows repeaters; MURS doesn't.
I love the retracto poster!!
So simply explained, even I could keep up! Thanks!
a man in the pub (limey speak for bar) said (read as "so must be true") that shorter wavelength has better propagation, so despite other shortfalls of MURS, might it be better if only in that regard? Re UVRs, despite happy hams info which although definitive & recieved in good faith, I wonder how many prosecutions there are for UV5s owners broadcasting on Murs... of for that matter GMRS, or CB (New Zealand CB uses 476-7 as well as 27mhz from what I can figure out )
Is MURS legal in canada on an approved usa MURS radio?
What about business band radios is that considered murs uhf vhf
I was driving to Tennessee and using an frs radio to talk to the car following me. Ended up getting someone’s baby monitor and they were pissed.had to endure about a mile of a Karen threatening to get the feds, find me, and lock me up for spying on their baby. I told her just get a better baby monitor that can’t be hacked into with Walmart walkie talkies. Was glad when her screams turned into static. What would you call her? Not a sad ham but sad for sure.
Vhf electricities do more fars on line of sight we used murs more out west in the highlands. Uhf gets good fars through trees and buildings.
What would recommend for the airsoft field where its legal and safe
Bull horns…
It’s legal and safe to operate on the Murs Frequencies, just be prepared for shitty audio.
@@NoName-OG1 😆
I use both MURS and GRMS
MURS We use when we have our hunting or fishing camps set up
GRMS When we are out traveling on the road or out off road 4X4 To communicate with the other vehicles or back to base camp
Lol. They just let ol' Albert out of prison to make more drinks. In spite of that bad news, love your vids, and agree with you completely on the MURS/GMRS question.
Swear to glob, that happened WHILE I was filming this - I had no idea!
I have several questions. What data can be relayed on MURS? How expensive are MURS radios compared to FRS? Does MURS use VOIP internet protocol? Is MURS compatible with WIFI or bluetooth?
so, at the 7:26 mark, you mentioned the lower frequency will probably reach further through trees or what ever. I am asking because I am new to the game and have been binging your videos and tryin to gather as much data as possible so i can make a educated decision. thanks
Ok.. So.. What are you asking?
@@TheNotaRubicon is the lower frequency a stronger frequency.? Sorry if it’s a dumb queation.
Lower frequencies like MURS usually work better going through things like trees and walls and curving over hills.. Higher frequencies tend to bounce off of everything.
Is MURS limited to 2 watts on a baofeng or will it be 5 or 8 watts?
Depends on which Baofeng.. Baofeng makes a lot of radios.
Can you put MURS on a repeater?
Awwww, happy ham is so cute and cuddly. 😊
Thanks for your videos. I worked with a red headed step child and put my foot in my mouth one time by using that phrase around him. He is such a good guy I felt pretty bad about that one.
Does anyone know what those annoying rapid and frequent DTMF bursts are on MURS, usually on channel 4 or 5? Bloody shame that stuff is allowed to pollute those frequencies.
That is almost certainly a local thing.
@@TheNotaRubicon
Hi Randy! It is common around Lexington and Columbia, SC in certain areas. I understand it is also in other parts of the state and country. The hours and areas it is heard in, likely not a traffic counter but we cannot figure out what. There are occasional variances in the DTMF bursts which are usually about 4-6 digits in length. Maddening trying to figure out the source. Bursts are frequent but too short for df'ing them. Well, at least too short for a lazy soul like myself.
Some security systems use murs. Look up Dakota Alerts.
I have MURS on my 8 watt boefengs - doesn’t seem to be anyone one it… Like clear air…
Its amazing…. FCC black suburbans showed up in the area when I was broadcasting on my boefengs. We went silent for a few hours and went back to talking and we had fun.
Drive by a Wal-Mart, the thing will light up like a Christmas tree.
You have a awesome mic for your videos 👍
GMRS allows up to 50 watts transmission power. MURS, 2 watts. FRS, 0.5 watts.
Winner: GMRS.
But you are not taking in your opinion the difference in MHZ and how it reacts with the Earth.
Which Baofeng to get?? Part 90 or no part 90, too many models. Legal vs non legal?
Get the Baofeng MURS or the Baofeng 888’s for GMRS.
If you don’t want to use a license, get the 888’s
You left off one of the Hams. In addition to Happy Ham and Sad Ham, there is Angry Ham. Fortunately, Angry Ham is also a small percentage.
Hi happy ham! Nice to meet you.
You could probably easily pass the Ham test. The only thing you failed to mention is that a couple of the frequencies are narrow band and the others are wide (if programming). VHF (MURS) does work better open range especially with a high antenna connected to a good counterpoise.
Found the Ham.
I have FRS, GMRS and MURS on my UV5R’s. It’s good to have channels that aren’t frequently used as a backup or for family only. In an “emergency situation of course” 🙄 😜
Is MURS still limited to 2 watts as a base statiom?
MURS is limited to 2 watts.. Period.
Great video! A little extra tid-bit for the radio geeks... FRS is limited to 2W ERP (effective radiated power), whereas MURS can do 2W PEP (peak envelope power). ERP is measured by a field strength meter at something like 1 meter (maybe it's 3) from the antenna, and PEP (often just referred to as power output) is measured at the antenna jack, and if you're using a gain antenna (a duck, whip, mobile or external base, etc.), your effective radiated power can be multiples higher than the 2W output (think 2W through a 9dBd antenna and you're doing 16W ERP). For this reason, and for the other reasons Randy said (VHF as opposed to UHF, no license required, etc.), MURS is a good option for some comms. A quality MURS radio with a telescoping antenna one end and a roll-up j-pole in a tree at the basecamp, and you've got a fairly potent, cheap, license-free solution.
You can use PL tones and DTMF tone call signaling like GMRS (and more), and MURS can also be used for one-way remote control applications (like a driveway monitor or call-box, unlike with GMRS and FRS). I've always been a fan (not a fanboi, but MURS is like a 2 meter radio without the Sad Hams) and have a rugged IP67 MURS radio in the works right now (don't really want to take anything with less protection out camping). I'll send ya one Randy, with the roger beep enabled, of course!
Good video and thank you much.