Low Energy? Feel Like Sh**? Consider Getting to the "Root Cause" with Morley Robbins
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- In this first episode of a three-part series, Dr. Doug Lucas delves into the intriguing concept of addressing the "root cause" of low energy with renowned expert Morley Robbins, focusing on the pivotal roles of iron and copper in the body. Watch this video to learn how to improve your health span!
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0:00 Intro & Summary
1:29 Morley Robbins Background
5:35 Why do we have likely too much iron to begin with?
9:55 How much Iron are we exposed too? How much of it are we absorbing?
17:15 What happens in the tissue when iron is building up?
21:25 Iron and Oxygen
22:30 Which labs are the most relevant?
27:25 How does Ferritin play into this?
33:00 Saturation and Ferritin Levels
36:35 Copper
45:00 Copper Deficiency
49:40 Copper Toxicity
55:50 Hormone Replacement Therapy
1:00:00 Osteoporosis
1:05:10 Labs for Copper
1:10:50 Masterclass Registration Link
1:11:04 Health Span Nation
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THIS GUEST is “one in a thousand” (or more!)
The WHOLE WORLD should be listening to MORLEY ….
SO grateful …. 🤗🤗
IMO
Thank you for watching!!
I know this isn't about frozen shoulder, but I thought I'd share my experience about that anyway... I had frozen shoulder, and when they came at me with a gracious offer of steroid injections I ran the other way, and bought a pass for a local hot water pool. I got in there twice a day, and after the heat would start to relax and "melt" me, I would move my shoulder in micro-movements to the point of pain, which felt like maybe 5 mm movements. Every day was slightly better than the day before, and after two weeks I was healed.
Thank you so much for sharing this!
Wow that was very complicated. Can you do another video about this subject and and simplify it?
Yes! This is a three part series so hopefully the other two will help to further explain this.
I just wanted to know the facts and he finally got to them by your questions thank you, Doctor! I won’t bug you anymore. I’ll just wait for your next presentation.
Hi! No problem at all, I am glad to hear you enjoyed this video!
Morley says we shouldn't be using citrates. The citrate molecule causes the ceruloplasmin protein (aka functional copper) to lose its enzyme function which in turn, interferes with the body’s ability to keep iron functional. He specifically says to avoid magnesium citrate. However, Algae Cal Plus has strontium citrate in it. I think Morley would not approve strontium citrate either.
Thank you for sharing this!
@@Dr_DougLucasHi Doc
How Does one Deal with Too much Oxalate then?
Especially if one has a Genetic marker?
Magnesium CITRATE has been a life Saver. For those with Kidney Stones etc.. Know many people who take it.
Tnx. Will Try to get His Book!
Tnx.. Appreciate! 🎉
What is one can’t take Algae’s?
Can't wait for part 2, because id like to know the effects of copper deficiency more clearly and how the labs work, meaning how to address it responsibly.
Yes! Coming soon!
Wow! What an eye-opening conversation! As a woman on HRT, that part was particularly interesting to me, although the entire talk was filled with surprises. Would love to see a recap someday. In the meantime, I'm getting Morley's book. Thank you for this intriguing episode, Dr.
Very glad you enjoyed it! There will be two more episodes related to this topic coming soon :)
Pardon me for being skeptical when I am told about the critical trace mineral de jour. The biochemistry here is certainly over my head. But I can say that before fundoplication surgery, I had several blood tests in successive years which showed low iron. When I finally went into the doctor complaining of getting out of breath while skiing and biking as well as ringing in the ears, a CBC revealed that my hemoglobin was 4. After surgery in May 2020, the iron and hemoglobin are both normal. I find it hard to believe that I had excess iron stored and unutilized in my body before surgery.
Thank you so much for sharing this story!
Aren’t blood tests not super effective since they only check iron serum?
Makes so much sense to me.. Too much iron in bl ,too much ferritin in bl....not enough RBC and low hemaglobin. Thku for opening my eyes. I certainly will be contacting Standard Process for copper.
Thank you for watching!
Sounds like a great opportunity for a recap/clarification video Dr Doug! Thank you for this compelling interview and information.
Yes! Thank you for watching!
This is one of the most insightful conversations about health I've come across . Morley's knowledge about copper and mineral balance is truly IMPRESSIVE. I'm excited to dive into part 2! Thanks for this amazing video!. 🫂🫂🫂
So glad you enjoyed it!!
Not over my head because I almost completed a PhD in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, but full of surprises. I have severe OP but all my efforts so far have not been very successful because my overall heath is very complicated due to a number of genetic mutations I have. I'm a retired PA and have spent lots of time educating my docs including my own personal ones. Looks like I need to speak to you personally and see what we can come up with to help me
Thank you for sharing this! Yes, we would be more than happy to speak with you. You may schedule a discovery call at this link --> www.optimalbonehealth.com/membership
When I was diagnosed with anemia my liver was storing excessive iron - omg! I ended up in the hospital and doctors were perplexed with my liver pain yet I was anemic...Wondering about this all right now. It was a year of liver pain
Thank you for sharing this story!
So interesting! I just finished reading his book this weekend and had so many questions, your interview helped! I am so glad you asked him more on his comment on HRT and copper! Definitely fireworks here!
Glad it was helpful!
I think many of us were grabbing our cronometer apps to see how much copper we are getting while watching this video!
haha yes!
Great interview!! Thank you.
Thank you for watching!
Wow!! This is a true eye opener. Love it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Brilliant conversation...thank you so much!
Thank you for watching!
Wow, Wow, Wow!!! Eye opening info! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Ty for getting to the point ❤
Thank you for watching!
Ngl this is your best video so far
Thank you! I appreciate your feedback
Wow! Thank you!! 😊
Thank you for watching!
Your interview was incredibly enlightening! The depth of the discussion and the way you delved into thought-provoking topics provided a fresh and valuable perspective. It was truly a remarkable and eye-opening experience! Thank you 🙌🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thank you for watching, I greatly appreciate your support!
Interview was very technical but definitely makes me interested to read his book. . .
Thank you for watching!
Dr, I went away for a while and came back and was wondering where Optimal Bone Health went. Congrats on consolidating everything into Dr Doug Show. There is definitely a lot of info to unpack in this interview. I am anemic due to thalassemia trait disorder and i started testing ferritin levels last year which showed adequate iron yet I am anemic because of my red blood cells are not the optimal shape like a normal person. I guess from this interview says checking ferritin levels is not right thing to do? I would need to go thru the video again because it's just too technical. Thank u!
Hi! Yes, thank you for your support. I always recommend watching the videos twice, we try to pack as much information in as possible on these more in depth ones. You can also find key timeframes in the description so that you can jump to specific parts of the video!
Very interesting
Yes!
Interesting, a lot to think about. Especially re: ferritin….several clients sent over by coaches to have ferritin checked as they felt increased ferritin =increased performance. Will stay tuned.
Right! Thanks for watching
With a deficiency of Ferritin and B12 my doctor told me to eat more meat and buy iron supplement and to use it every day.
Of course that didn’t help at all so I began to look for alternatives and try to understand what’s going on with my body.
Started taking copper bisglycinate 2mg/capsule 1-2 capsules per day. Also magnesium and L-tryptophan before bedtime.
Slowly I started to function again and get better sleep.
It’s sad that our doctors are brain washed and don’t understand how it’s all working I symbiosis.
Thank you for sharing your experience!
Interesting to hear what he said about EDS. I don't have that exact diagnosis, but I'm borderline with extreme flexibility, even at age 76, plus problems with an unstabile SI joint. Too much flexibility is not a good thing and doesn't necessarily prevent joint pain. Somewhere I read that estrogen can aggravate SI joint laxity, but I have no plans ti ditch my HRT. However, it does make me wonder how this might all trace back to copper, especially since I was always surprised when years ago my nutritionist prescribed copper supplements based on my hair analysis.
Very interesting, thank you for sharing this!
Great video! But my comment is totally off-topic. I was surprised to hear Dr Doug say that frozen shoulders don't get better. Might that depend on how early treatment is started for the problem?
I had a diagnosed frozen shoulder years ago from a repetitive stress posture at my computer work. My shoulder was so sensitive I couldn't even tolerate the shoulder enclosure for an MRI. I went to an orthopedist, who gave me one cortisone shot in the shoulder, plus he told me to do a simple but somewhat difficult exercise of slowly raising my arm against a wall. I did this faithfully for a while, til I no longer had pain or limitation. Since then I can reach high shelves with no problem and bring my shoulders back against a wall normally. The only time I notice a very tiny difference in that arm is when I have to lie on an exam table with both arms stretched above my head for a long time. I think I used moist heat as part of the treatment as well, but I can't recall for sure. Just my two cents that a frozen shoulder might not be hopeless. 😊
I appreciate you sharing this, that is definitely something to think about!
Very interesting and timely for me. I am scheduled for another round of iron infusion on Wednesday, due to low ferritin. I am thinking of canceling until I can do some more research. How much copper do you recommend to start with.
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It’s in the interview the labs the dosages just listen and take notes
Mind blowing for sure and scary. What foods should I eat to increase copper or can it only be supplemented
I googled because I wanted to know also, this is what I found;
Copper is a mineral found in various foods. Foods like nuts, seeds, organ meats, seafood, whole grains, and vegetables naturally contain copper.
Mushrooms have a
nice amount of copper. A small tin of smoked oysters has 2.9 mg of copper according to the Cronometer app; this is over 300 % of the RDA.
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Grass fed beef liver and cod liver oil ❤ and do some aerobic exercise daily
Should I be concerned, have osteoporosis, menopausal, was anemic am on a natural iron supplement to raise ferritin ,I noticed that the Bone Up supplement I take has copper(as copper gluconate ) is this helpful with regulating the iron?
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Holy Cow.
Yes! This was an interesting one
OK I'm shocked! I did a dexa scan yesterday and my results are Lumbar spine (L1-L4): T score value is -1.3.
Left hip: T score value is -0.7
Right hip: T score value is -1.0
I was thinking for sure I had osteoporosis, but I have very mild osteopenia in my spine only. Which is where all these old fractures that won't heal are. The doctors say their Old fractures. Could it be non- union fractures? And if so I'm thinking of wearing a bone growth stimulater and maybe get into a back brace? This really is a whole lifestyle change.
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If it’s in your spine it’s in your skull too - get on liquid minerals and algeaCal you can reverse this easily. My dexa was horrible and I rebuilt remineralized my bones w raw materials and am good now. I stopped HRT!! That was key to my healing.
I'm on HRT, so of course my ears pricked up when that was mentioned 😮
I'm none the wiser about what I should do to rebalance my copper levels. It's unlikely I'll be able to get my 'copper IQ ' tested. I need to know what the solutions are, eg what supplements, what particular foods. Thank you you 😊xx
PS, I'm in the UK, glyphosate is used here.
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@@Dr_DougLucas thank you 😊xx
Of course! @@anne-louisegoldie
"Indiana Jones warehouse". Love it.
Thank you for watching!
@@Dr_DougLucas Thanks.
A quick question Dr - so, if most humans have too much iron, then should we stop cooking with cast iron pan?
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He said in another video as long as you leave the oil on and some seasonings and don’t over clean it it’s fine or clean it very specifically I guess. But I’m not for sure he didn’t talk about it much or that sistas whatever podcast,
I was eating a lot of lentils. I felt great. Is that because Atlanta's have a lot of copper in it?
Lentils
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5/24 can he get to the point how much copper do we need and what supplements do we need?
Hi! We have keynotes in our description. They will take you directly to the conclusion :)
Is gout a deficiency of copper?
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So is Hemachromatosis actually a copper deficiency?
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Very interesting interview.
Dr. Doug, do you prescribe estrogen to 73 year old female or is it too late at that age?
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Very interesting conversation...have high ferritin levels...extreme fatique....no answers from docs...confused????? Greatly.
Hemochromatosis ?
Hopefully they have checked your fasting transferrin saturations ...it can be an inflammatory response so may not reflect a problem with iron...yes hemochromatosis although carrier of the gene is more common and can be tested for if indicated ... Hope that helps and all the best
Drs say no....inflamation much..im finished with most drs...tired of tests tests and more tests no answers...thankful for these conversation.
Thx...
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What percent of post Menopausal woman have "iron build up"? Does a regular CBC blood test show iron build up?
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My iron levels were normal but ferritin was low so doctor put me on iron and I felt better. Why would this be if ferritin isn’t the problem?
He said iron can make you feel better for a while as it can raise hemoglobin. There’s also active vs not active ferritin and testing and getting a clear picture I think is complicated they’ve said.
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My friends keep asking me in regard to this copper deficiency theory - has this been peer reviewed?
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You don't need that thick of a book to tell people that it all comes down to a lack of copper. There are so many experts telling us it all comes down to this one thing then they start telling you to do this and do that in addition to this one thing. I have heard it and bought into so many times over the years and I am broke and weary from it all. I really wish there was a magic bullet.
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I get that though past doesn’t really affect what’s true now. A hundred people could sell a fix and be wrong and the hundred and first could be right. One doesn’t decide the other. That applies in all things really. It’s hard but you use it as more info to give a bigger picture and don’t place bets just force the thing to prove itself and challenge it.
He writes that thicker book for tensile who want backfired and does a smaller pdf for those who want basics.
@@ComeAlongKay Thanks.
@@ComeAlongKay Thanks.
Very interesting, but now I do not know if I should stay on HRT which I take only because of osteoporosis? Should I supplement with cobber or not?
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The way I look at this is: 50 percent of medical information in practice today will b completely wrong in only TEN years completely wrong so I’m listening closely
Thank you for sharing your opinion!
one of the saddest modern trends is the hatred of salt. many times people start intensive jobs, or start working out, and they slowly get fatigued simply because they aren't getting enough salt. It's painful to see generations of wisdom get thrown out.
Well said!
you should interview Morley's wife. I want to hear more about the innate healer. She knows things!
Ahh Yes! We could try to make that happen
Original Factory Settings- the ones that nature intended.
Thank you for sharing!
I wonder how this relates to Jane McClelland's How to Starve Cancer . . . And Then Kill it with Ferroptosis. I have a feeling this is all related.
Thank you for sharing this!
I love to nap. Not really tired, just bored.
Thank you for sharing!
I do not understand this at all. Please could you do a show about copper and explain it the way we understand it although I respect this man very much. I do believe him I just don’t get it.
Hi! Yes, we will consider creating another video on this!
French using GMO feed from US and Brazil to feed their animals
Thank you for sharing
I've listened to two videos and hours of arguments about this iron vs copper between these two men, but I still don't hear anything about how to correct any health problem. Madness! I can only guess, from what I've heard, that a deficiency of copper is responsible for fatigue and aging and the solution is to ingest more copper? But how exactly?
Let me inform you two doctors that if you have a hypothesis, you should first define it clearly, then test it and then report the results in a practical and intelligible way. I don't see that here - I don't see anything that a person can use to improve their health or remedy the problems of aging or fatigue. Useless!
I have seen a lot of elderly wearing copper wrist bracelets .
Thank you for sharing!
Sorry, I'm not resonating with this one. Something feels a little "off" about this and his presentation of it. I listened to another podcast with him to get further info. I then went to Amazon and read the 1 and 2 star reviews of his book - esp the one from a homeopath and another who's health declined after following the protocol for 1.5 years. There's also mention of lack of scientific references in the book and poor editing. May work for some but it's probably not a magic bullet for healing.
We have two more videos coming out on this topic, hopefully they can provide further clarity. Thank you for your feedback!
That really doesn’t prove anything also vibing is not evidence.
There are bad reviews on everything that exists, there is such a thing as user error as in they can do it wrong or you can vs it’s just wrong, and I have seen no evidence that there is not even he tried just saying that and not providing even one source or reference.
Why do people think because someone siad they did it that they actually did it or they did it correctly? Why would they be so trustworthy these random strangers but Morley doesn’t vibe with you? Many struggle to even organize their house or their finances but you think if they say they did a health protocol they nailed it really well and definitely did it right?
Also why do none of you have evidence besides ‘it seems weird, some people didn’t like it, it doesn’t vibe with me.’ If that means it’d wrong then all things are wrong. And magic bullet depends on what you mean, it could be a significant factor yes that effects many people yes.
All of that could just not be true. Those people could have made it up or not done the program right they could be wrong about no evidence and there could be a ton they could feel the editing is bad but it may not be true it just seems that way to them. So many possibilities. It’s mostly like saying nothing if there’s no evidence, which he right now has more of compared to them.
Not sure about this guest, Dr Doug. Perhaps you can present some peer reviewed research that backs up his conclusions and claims.
We have more videos coming on this topic! Stay tuned, they may provide further clarity for you.
I agree, I'm not clear of the relationship between iron & copper.
Peer Rev’d Research ⁉️you must be kidding
don’t you know that PR’d research is, almost always, “bought & paid for” ….
this man is outside bureaucracy …
he is a gift to humanity.
A new pair of brains wd benefit you cm1906 …
you would really notice the difference …
bless you 🙏🏻
Where have you been ?
Surely you know that most “peer reviewed” studies are “bought and paid for” … surely??
IMO
Too much too complicated, needs to be parsed out more to make it clearer. General statements like HRT not helpful is too vague.... which hormones and which applications and why exactly... just saying.
We have two more videos coming out on this topic that may provide some clarity. Stay tuned!
Week he has like eight hundred videos and books and a free pdf and website he’s not exactly hiding.