Copper & Trace Minerals for Optimal Mitochondrial Health | Morley Robbins

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  • @russelld2100
    @russelld2100 6 місяців тому +49

    I have been testing the mineral composition of people, using hair analysis for 24 years. After studying about 150 hair analysis reports of nutrient mineral levels in people, I realized that everybody had nutrient deficiencies. I thought, "Could it be the food that is nutrient deficient? Could that be because the soil is deficient in minerals?" As a Graduate Student studying Biology, Chemistry, Endocrinology, Toxicology, Geology, and also a farmer, I thought, what minerals are in my soil? So, I sent a sample off to the University of Massachucets soil test lab. The results showed my farm's soil was deficient in iron, copper, zinc, magnesium, manganese, sulfur, phosphorous, and very high in calcium. I grew up farming in the Rio Grande Valley, which is a rift valley, with black volcanic lava flows coming from deep in the mantle, which came up, hardened, and was eroding into the valley soils. Things grew well there. When I bought land in southwest New Mexico, in the Gila Valley, I found that crops didn't grow very well. I asked my Geology Professor why that might be. She said it is because the soil made from the black volcanic lava flows is high in the heavy nutrient minerals and the Gila is a different kind of volcanic formation, with different minerals in it. She was right! I thought, If the soil doesn't have the heavy metal nutrient minerals in it, would my horses eating the grass growing in that soil have nutrient deficiencies? I sent hair to the lab for analysis. Yep! If the minerals are not in the soil, they are not in the animals hair. Ok, so what to do about it? I researched it and found the research done by Dr. Albrect at the Missouri Research Station from the 1930's to the 1960's. He had a chemistry lab and ran the field trials to determine the optimal levels of all the nutrient minerals for plant growth and animal health. I found a book called "The Ideal Soil: A Handbook for the New Agriculture" by Michael Astera. It is a workbook based on Dr. Albrecht's work. In this workbook, it takes you through the process of sampling the soil, reading the soil test report, and working through what is the optimal level of each mineral for this soil, and how to determine how much of each element to add, to bring the soil up to the ideal level. I did it! My crops grew so much better! And, tasted so much better! And, my mineral levels in my body, as measured by hair analysis, came up to much higher levels! I found I had more energy, increased cognitive function, and everything I did and built got better. So, now I have taken it to an even higher level. I found out why my soil was deficient in the heavy minerals. Where I live and farm is in the center of a giant volcanic caldera, a super volcano! This soil is made up of volcanic ash. It is light in color, fine in texture, heavy clay, and very high in calcium. This area was formed by plate tectonics, when an oceanic plate subducted under the North American Continental plate some 40 million years ago. The oceanic plate was pushed down into the mantle, melted, and came back up in volcanic eruptions. Below the surface, where the oceanic plate melted, called the magma chamber, the light elements rose to the top of the magma chamber, and the heavier elements sunk to the bottom. When the force of the magma exceeded the weight of the overlying rocks, the magma erupted. The light magma, made up mostly of silica dioxide, sand from the ocean bottom, and calcium from the bones and shells of the sea creatures, limestone, on the top of the magma chamber, erupted on a gigantic scale! The overlying rocks and the ejecta from the magma blew up and out, and came back down. The eruptions went on for millions of years, with one eruption covering the previous ones. Mountains build up around the volcanic eruptions, with layers of ash fall tuff, the oldest on the bottom, and the youngest on the top. The volcano collapsed after ejecting all the pyroclastic material, forming a caldera. The caldera is filled with volcanic ash, which forms clay, and is high in silica and calcium. That is my soil! Ok, around the caldera is a "Ring Fracture Zone". These are cracks going down deep into the magma chamber, up through which the magma from the lower levels of the magma chamber get pushed up through. The iron, zinc, copper, molybdenum, cobalt, manganese, uranium, gold, silver come up through the faults, cooling and hardening into vertical dikes and horizontal sills. These mountains around the caldera are where the mineral mines are. Yes, gold, copper, silver, zinc, cobalt, molybdenum, and manganese and uranium are found around this "super volcano caldera". There is a dry wash that sometimes runs with water, near my farm. I have been going over to get sand from it, where it crosses a road, and is piled up, for my driveways and corrals. The rocks come from up at the edge of the caldera, and get broken down to sand and gravel by the water. I noticed that the sand was magnetic and some of the rocks are too. I sent some of the sand to the soil testing lab, thinking it might be good for fertilizing my gardens. Iron and cobalt are magnetic. I got the results. Iron , zinc, copper, cobalt, manganese, magnesium, molybdenum, zinc, and other elements were good enough to use as fertilizer! So, I've been hauling loads of sand from the dry wash to my gardens and corrals. My horses like the sand to sleep on, and it stops the corrals from being so muddy when it rains. The horses poop and pee on it, and I haul it to my gardens for fertilizer. I'm building soil fertility! I am looking forward to tasting the fruits and vegetables that come from this sand. One important thing I have found, in 24 years of practicing Nutritional Therapy, is that people absorb nutrient minerals better in food, than in supplement form. I remember a time when obesity was rare in the U.S. I remember a time when food tasted really good, before chemical farming, insecticides and herbicides and glyphosate. I remember when people were healthy, active, smart, competent, good looking. I remember when metabolic disorders were rare. I remember when hypothyroidism was not epidemic in the U.S. I remember a time when ADHD was unknown. Maternal hypothyroidism causes ADHD! Nutrient deficiencies cause hypothyridism and metabolic syndrome! Good Job Morely! I'm with you! You are getting it right. But, if we want to be really healthy, we are going to have to grow our own food, in properly mineralized soils! Industrial agriculture is an abomination! It is killing the Planet, and all the creatures that live here. That has to change! When we know what is going on, we can do something about it! I hope this helps! Russell Dobkins, Gila, New Mexico russelldobkins@yahoo.com
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    • @williammilligan1451
      @williammilligan1451 6 місяців тому +6

      Thank you, excellent review and update.

    • @MrTrda
      @MrTrda 6 місяців тому +5

      The proper human diet for humans is fatty meat, water and salt. No plants necessary.

    • @mek8937
      @mek8937 6 місяців тому +6

      Absolutely fascinating!! Thank you for that long and informative reply!!! I stopped listening to read your post just after starting the video as I was so drawn in by all you shared!!! Wow!! And you are a nutritional practitioner!! Way to go!!!! You have a lot to share!!!

    • @AliciasHealingChannel
      @AliciasHealingChannel 5 місяців тому +3

      Oh wow, thank you for sharing this!! So smart and insightful. ❤

    • @AliciasHealingChannel
      @AliciasHealingChannel 5 місяців тому +1

      @@MrTrdaonly if the animals are getting all the right minerals in their feed, which is clear they are NOT 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @isaacmann9812
    @isaacmann9812 10 місяців тому +25

    They Max, how about making a podcast featuring Morley and Dr Kruse. I bet it would be better than the Huberman podcast.

    • @vickilebreton2484
      @vickilebreton2484 10 місяців тому +3

      Yes... set that one up, for sure.

    • @DawnJuds
      @DawnJuds 10 місяців тому

      This is like a continuation of information I listened to yesterday from Dr Tom Cowan his channel is Talking Turkey with Tom. It was last weeks Q& A. Interesting. Thanks.

    • @AliciasHealingChannel
      @AliciasHealingChannel 5 місяців тому +1

      Huberman… ewww 😂

    • @willcook403
      @willcook403 4 місяці тому

      @@dinomiles7999why? He has a lot of good info … well studied..

  • @vickilebreton2484
    @vickilebreton2484 10 місяців тому +8

    Ohhh, just found this chat.
    Morley Robbins & copper is amazing.

  • @a.911
    @a.911 14 днів тому

    Amazing, the intelligence that made our bodies. Once you break it all down it’s really quite overwhelming how it all is interdependent in each process.

  • @pircello
    @pircello 10 місяців тому +9

    Great to see Morley here!

  • @nathansellers2276
    @nathansellers2276 10 місяців тому +4

    Very in depth and valuable information, thank you so much!

  • @kaceychapman
    @kaceychapman 10 місяців тому +6

    My favourite podcast!

  • @jasonrix3691
    @jasonrix3691 10 місяців тому +6

    wow, wow, wow i was going to pass....but thought to give it ago! glad i did!! So to go with your podcast on glyphosate!!! So to start the signaling peptides to be started up like a car...the key is to cleave off the glycine. And deuterium has an affinity to attach to the glycine!!!! WOW Thanks so much for the effort in putting out these podcasts!!!!

    • @raykinney9907
      @raykinney9907 10 місяців тому +2

      And, that glycine could be replaced by glyphosate?

    • @wellnesspathforme6236
      @wellnesspathforme6236 9 місяців тому

      Glyphosate chelates minerals… in the soil, in the plant, in the gut, in your liver, and in your blood. It has a particular affinity for copper atoms… it chelates them below the pH of healthy stomach acid (which many people do not have).

  • @wildbill562
    @wildbill562 5 місяців тому +2

    I love listening to Morley. I learn so much about the way my body works.

  • @gard291
    @gard291 10 місяців тому +7

    Copper regulates iron, what regulates copper? Or is it self regulating? Great info, thank you.

    • @wellnesspathforme6236
      @wellnesspathforme6236 9 місяців тому +1

      Copper regulation is almost certainly multi-factorial. Welcome to Complex Systems (tm). One key element is the ability of ATP7B, which needs magnesium and retinoic acid to function, to load the copper atoms into ceruloplasmin to enable its safe transport and to activate ceruloplasmin as an enzyme.
      ATP7B has prerequisite steps before ATP7B can begin to function. There are sequestering mechanisms that manage excess copper substrate to a point.
      It would be great for a copper researcher to break all this down, but their paycheck would likely become obsolete if they did.

    • @eugeniebreida1583
      @eugeniebreida1583 6 місяців тому +3

      Zinc, for one.

    • @stuartsloan
      @stuartsloan 2 місяці тому

      ⁠@@eugeniebreida1583 it’s my understanding that zinc inhibits the absorption of copper.

  • @Castus-en7op
    @Castus-en7op 3 місяці тому

    Absolutely love Morley's work! Please continue this conversation, I'm sure there's plenty more fascinating details we haven't heard. Thanks 👍 ❤

  • @sumthingnothingallestar7722
    @sumthingnothingallestar7722 6 місяців тому +1

    You guys compliment each other very well like bioavailability .

  • @gentleoldmoviefan5680
    @gentleoldmoviefan5680 2 місяці тому +1

    Shortly after 9:35 , Robbins makes a very interesting point about mitochondria, copper, and red light. Essentially, he says that widely used red light therapy devices often reveal that a patient (or person) is "copper deficient". The mitochondria really like (seem to crave, love, etc.) that red light.

  • @eshaniking4421
    @eshaniking4421 9 місяців тому

    Amazing interview and critically important information. Thank you both.

  • @a.macdonald4877
    @a.macdonald4877 10 місяців тому +2

    Great talk, I want more

  • @alistairmills7608
    @alistairmills7608 10 місяців тому +2

    Thank you both

  • @raduneo
    @raduneo 10 місяців тому +5

    Maybe I missed it in the interview, but shouldn't copper ALWAYS be taken together with zinc (since as far as I know the two are antagonists and taking copper could deplete zinc)????
    I would consider taking Dr Morley Robbins's supplement, but I don't want to mess up my zinc levels.

    • @wellnesspathforme6236
      @wellnesspathforme6236 9 місяців тому

      Zinc stimulates metallothionein, which persists and lowers copper status. Dr. Carl Pfeiffer, who wrote a famous book promoting this idea, worked with black ops to experiment on orphans, some of whom apparently disappeared. Look it up - the information is available to those who take personal responsibility.
      Try to ingest you copper, and zinc, as you ancestors did - from organ meats from animals grazed on grass grown in healthy soil.
      Nature is the way. Funny how faux evolutionists are DEAD SILENT when it comes to evolutionary diets, eh? They know who butters their iron filing and copper-blocking seed oil laden bread.
      I took zinc supplements and my 6.5 Na/K HTMA ratio dropped in a straight line to 1.7. My energy and motivation went right with it. Years later, I’m still trying to reverse the damage that the zinc ‘straw’ finally did in on the ‘camel’s back.’
      My crash was multi-factorial, but I have no doubt that zinc supplementation of 40-50 mg a day gave me a significant extra push off the cliff.
      I should never have gone below 2.5 for Na/K, but I was soo lethargic I put off getting the test too long, and I had no idea that its effects could be this powerful.
      Zinc apparently helps some people, but it made me worse.
      It did help a friend of mine detox excess toxic metals from her liver and resolved the worst systems in a red alert situation, so there is nuance to this game.
      But NEVER go under 2.5 Na/K on a hair test where samples aren’t washed since that affects the results.
      I’m not-a-doc, but do take responsibility for my own learning and know my well-being is my responsibility.
      Yours is yours as well.
      Be wise.

    • @beautymore9386
      @beautymore9386 4 місяці тому +1

      You are totally right. I study with a scientist that used to have a cancer clinic in another country. He told us that the zinc in your body should be the doble and more that your copper. He said that 100% of the cancer patients he tested throughout the years the copper is same or higher. He said that is easy to obtain copper through our food. We should supplement copper IF the doctor recommends for a particular reason, but we should always supplement zinc.

    • @chingonbass
      @chingonbass 25 днів тому

      Yes but take it different times of the day

  • @raykinney9907
    @raykinney9907 10 місяців тому +4

    Thank you both. Morley, I hope to hear another discussion between you both, one including your take on how the toxic metal lead plays ominously with so many pathogenic pathways connecting right along with copper deficiency. We all have accumulated bone body burden of lead from a lifetime of exposures (said to usually be 100 to 1000 times that accumulated in paleo bone). When the body comes under stresses of old age, pregnancy, or illness, and there is sudden need for increasing calcium, calcium and lead are mobilized out of bone. This is beneficial for the calcium, but the lead can then circulate in soft tissue once again doing damage at the most vulnerable times. Any light you two can shed on these mechanisms of action would be most helpful. K2mk7 can be helpful in assisting transport of excess calcium out of soft tissue to bone, but can it also transport the Pb? Can Cu play into these mechanisms too?

    • @maxgulhanemd
      @maxgulhanemd  10 місяців тому +3

      Thanks Ray I will get Morley back on to talk about Magnesium and we can discuss heavy metals too

    • @raykinney9907
      @raykinney9907 10 місяців тому

      Gottipolu RR, Davuljigari CB. Perinatal exposure to lead: reduction in alterations of brain mitochondrial antioxidant system with calcium supplement. Biol Trace Elem Res. 2014 Dec;162(1-3):270-7. doi: 10.1007/s12011-014-0112-7. Epub 2014 Aug 28. PMID: 25161091.

    • @raykinney9907
      @raykinney9907 10 місяців тому

      ​@@maxgulhanemd

    • @raykinney9907
      @raykinney9907 10 місяців тому

      Han Q, Zhang W, Guo J, Zhu Q, Chen H, Xia Y, Zhu G. Mitochondrion: a sensitive target for Pb exposure. J Toxicol Sci. 2021;46(8):345-358. doi: 10.2131/jts.46.345. PMID: 34334556.

    • @raykinney9907
      @raykinney9907 10 місяців тому

      Korotkov SM. Mitochondrial Oxidative Stress Is the General Reason for Apoptosis Induced by Different-Valence Heavy Metals in Cells and Mitochondria. Int J Mol Sci. 2023 Sep 22;24(19):14459. doi: 10.3390/ijms241914459. PMID: 37833908; PMCID: PMC10572412.

  • @Anza_34832
    @Anza_34832 4 місяці тому

    Highly informative interview! As someone doing sports regularly and losing minerals and metals through sweating, I wonder whether low Ferritin levels can simply be a consequence of excessive sweating/physical exercise?
    If so, this would require supplementation of iron, correct?

    • @tomunderwood4283
      @tomunderwood4283 Місяць тому +1

      23 micrograms of iron per liter of sweat. Per 1986 NIH study, M. Brune.

  • @Mo-yj3wf
    @Mo-yj3wf 5 місяців тому +1

    58:00 ferritin liver
    1:15:00 roaccutane

  • @FemmeFine
    @FemmeFine 4 місяці тому

    Great podcast, thanks!

  • @Needless2say
    @Needless2say 2 місяці тому

    Morley likes to make associatations. At min. 5:25 Morley mentions "The Color Purple". It was a movie with people with high melinin ratios. Melinin requires copper

  • @wellnesspathforme6236
    @wellnesspathforme6236 9 місяців тому +4

    The Blue Blood Royals and Bankers know all about the importance of bio-active copper.
    Cerulo - blue
    Plasmin - blood

    • @jingulu
      @jingulu 5 місяців тому

      ​@@dinomiles7999 diet protocols for the rich or horses? What type of diet?

  • @koinkoreske
    @koinkoreske 2 місяці тому +1

    Hello i did a heavy metal test and it shows that i have excess zinc and copper deficiency

  • @SarahJones-kp9bq
    @SarahJones-kp9bq 14 днів тому

    But why does the iron get stuck in the tissues? I don't understand why that would happen if you're low in iron.

  • @wally6193
    @wally6193 10 місяців тому +1

    So what is the best way to get copper. Should you have copper water lines in your house or at least for your drinking water, how long a piece of copper pipe would do the trick to add copper to your drinking water?

    • @shiftyparadigm7049
      @shiftyparadigm7049 10 місяців тому +1

      Eat liver maybe, but first listen to the warning from Prof Bart Kay about potential copper toxicity. It concerns him more than vitamin a toxicity.

    • @wally6193
      @wally6193 10 місяців тому +2

      @@shiftyparadigm7049 yes I have listen to Bart before. Sure anything is toxic if you ingest too much, but that's not to say you still don't need copper as it does serve a function in your body. Did he mention just how much copper the body needs daily.

    • @JohnQPublic345
      @JohnQPublic345 10 місяців тому +2

      Buy a copper vessel / bottle and drink water from it

    • @maxgulhanemd
      @maxgulhanemd  10 місяців тому +3

      Grassfed beef liver, oysters, shellfish

    • @wally6193
      @wally6193 10 місяців тому

      @@maxgulhanemd all I eat is 100% grass fed beef, don't think I need the liver, lots of controversy over liver by the doctors in the carnivore moment.

  • @dalepaxson3910
    @dalepaxson3910 Місяць тому

    Quran Chapter 18 verse 96 According to the Quran, the wall between Yājūj and Mājūj (also known as Gog and Magog) was constructed with melted iron sheets and covered with copper

  • @joelhunton7108
    @joelhunton7108 6 місяців тому

    Question - doesn't the immune system identify these rouge disregulated cells and mark them for destruction/recycling though autophagy?

    • @supportingbalance
      @supportingbalance 3 місяці тому

      There’s only so much it can cope with over time - so for sure, if we have the building blocks to be able to respond, but many people are arriving without a full range of nutrients we need to do this efficiently when there’s constant bombardment, and also even if we’ve got lots of nutrients when we arrive, the exposure to the chemicals of today, processed food and nutrient depleted food (from ravaged soils sans biological activity and/or nutrient depletion) mean we can’t sustain it.
      This is how people are often feeling fine, then a symptom creeps in, and a stress happens, then more symptoms come, and it cascades.

  • @gard291
    @gard291 10 місяців тому

    Measuring hormone level tells us nothing about function? Did I hear that correctly, why are we not testing the functional terminal side?

  • @danah358
    @danah358 6 місяців тому

    My friends keep asking me in regard to this copper deficiency theory - has this been peer reviewed?

    • @supportingbalance
      @supportingbalance 3 місяці тому

      This is all from peer reviewed research. It’s not Morley making the assertion - it’s all out there.

  • @stem_cell_nutrition
    @stem_cell_nutrition 4 місяці тому +1

    Cooper and Iron.. Venus and Mars.. as above so below

  • @caroline61804
    @caroline61804 6 місяців тому

    Wow

  • @bsun3219
    @bsun3219 2 місяці тому

    It's very interesting topic ,and Mr Morley' research might help many of us, but, my concern is that he doesn't look as healthy aged man;he looks tired and exhausted...

  • @agarnierable
    @agarnierable 8 місяців тому +2

    Too bad the host was a bit dismissive and cut the guest off at the end. I don't think I liked that. Poor guest. He's brilliant.

  • @irenesantos5811
    @irenesantos5811 10 місяців тому

    From the video 😊

  • @TerriblePerfection
    @TerriblePerfection 10 місяців тому +3

    I'm not sure what to make of this particular podcast. Harry Serpanos, whom I trust, doesn't advocate the supplementation of copper, which he says is readily available from a proper (meat-based) diet. 🤔

    • @mosconi4539
      @mosconi4539 8 місяців тому +1

      Have to agree,Harry is very unbiased.Others like Morley,Kruse ect although are very knowledgeable are like a cult to me,like only copper or only sun are the end all.......i like to listen to them and use what i think make sense and discard other things .

    • @Shadow-bs1iu
      @Shadow-bs1iu 6 місяців тому +1

      take desiccated liver

  • @wally6193
    @wally6193 10 місяців тому +1

    just how much copper does the body need daily

    • @irenesantos5811
      @irenesantos5811 10 місяців тому

      25 g?

    • @wally6193
      @wally6193 10 місяців тому +1

      @@irenesantos5811 lol, 25g, no I don't think so. And where did you pull that number out of?

    • @irenesantos5811
      @irenesantos5811 10 місяців тому

      25 mg is iron not copper
      10 mg of copper is probably safe consult your health practitioner is recommended

    • @wally6193
      @wally6193 10 місяців тому +6

      @@irenesantos5811 Okay, you put 25 "grams" not milligrams in your first reply! If you don't know 100%, then you should refrain from suggesting any amount for any supplement just to make yourself look smart.

    • @JohnQPublic345
      @JohnQPublic345 10 місяців тому +1

      The zinc to copper ratio is most important