A huge amount of this episode is Penn patiently trying to explain to Bill that he knows more about fooling people than Bill does and Bill not buying it.
@@braziliantexatlantis7485 no surprise Maher talked about his love life, what a loser he was in high school, music he likes, etc like he does in every show
Lol, people should shield Bill from Derren Brown, who "guesses" more than a person's name in his shows. It's amazing, but he's similar to Penn and says it's not supernatural but just mental (and other) manipulation.
I witnessed Penn and Teller perform a trick similar to the one Bill describes only a million times more bewildering. I was in the audience, but it was 2012 so my memory isn’t sharp; still don’t have the foggiest clue as to how they pulled the trick off. It had to do with massive encyclopedias, text books, dictionaries, etc from various periods of history that penn and teller have never seen or read and handed out to audience members at random. Penn was able to guess specific details about the page each audience member opened at random. The randomly selected participants were completely dumbfounded. Perhaps they weren’t so random but it sure seemed that way to me (they arranged some kind of proof of the “innocence” of the randomly selected participants but I can’t remember what it was). I think this is why Penn was trying to be careful about how he discussed this trick bc it is the trick that most bamboozled me to this day. But yeah for a guy who constantly shits on the existence of God, which is not a “stupid” idea by any means, Bill’s inability to imagine how a tv psychic might have pulled off a parlor trick, is just laughable.
It was a bit of a difficult watch. Just because you don't 'get' something doesn't give license to be so bloody adamant about how ignorant you are. Sofa king awkward. Love ya Bill, but you were a bit off here.
I saw Penn Jillette with the Residents in 1983 at The Hammersmith Odeon after King Sunny Ade sold out the Palais. The evening seemed ruined but this show was amazing. The Residents combined performance art with music and Penn was the emcee/narrator explaining for the audience. I had no idea who he was but he was side-splitting funny. Then saw Penn and Teller years later on Broadway. As the audience got up to leave Penn came out and pleaded with everyone to sit back down. He lit a cigarette and offered a personal account of being drawn to show business, his desire to entertain, all we have is each other in this vast indifferent void. I was nearly in tears as was the rest of the audience. It was so personal and heartfelt. Immediately upon exiting the theater we ran into Penn and Teller on the sidewalk, Penn with a megaphone, crassly hawking merchandise. I doubled over in laughter, realizing he had set us up for the final, best trick of all. He's a con artist who figured out how to con people in a fun way, without ripping them off (discuss).
@@JohnSmith-tk7nt I think he’s the most honest ad reader because it just shows that he doesn’t use the products. Everyone else is selling better health or better heLP or whatever that talk therapy phone number is AND Helix mattresses and AG1 and acting like they use all of these products.
I've always liked Penn but I'm enjoying even more this mellower version of the man. Whether it's the vegetarian diet or age or something else it's enjoyable to listen to him without the bombast that was part of his public personality in old interviews, as fun as that often was. The man's intelligence and humanity is entertainment enough.
I know that bombastic and aggressive style was something he consciously did since doing 2 man show with Teller. To get some conflict and interest on stage (or in front of the camera) with silent well mannered Teller he'd frequently be the bully. Maybe 10 years of it seeped it and he needed 30 more years to completely rid himself of that?
Yeah as you say I think that was very much his public personality. This is probably more who he really is and was. He’s an obviously intelligent man, I wouldn’t have him down as someone who behaved like that unconsciously and without a solid understanding of why he was doing it.
Penn trying to take the time to explain to Bill how telepathy works, Penn is so patient and has a heart of gold. To not just yell in his face "Bill, you don't understand this you fucking idiot", especially as Bill is so condescending.
Ughh it’s so frustrating because Penn is actually explaining it far more deftly and patiently than I or many other people could manage but Bill is just like a wall and doesn’t understand the wider context of how psychics work. It’s not something that can be explained in a few minutes; you could give a college semester course on it and still not cover everything.
Penn has been doing magic for 50 years and does a magic tv show called "Fool Us" where he guesses how trick are done. Bill trying to convince Penn that what he saw during a Streisand concert wasn't a magic trick is wild!
Maher will NEVER admit he simply doesn’t understand something or he’s wrong about something. Look at how resistant he is to an actual expert trying to educate him. Just like how Neil deGrass Tyson tried to educate him about his fear of “GMOs”
I love Penn but he was full of crap saying he knew how that psychic did his thing. And they drug it out wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too long. Jesus, drop it and move on. He was also wrong saying atheists say, "I don't know." Wrong. Agnostics say that. Atheists say, "I know for a fact there is no God."
Maher also clings to the false narrative that Trump was trained in Russia as a foreign agent. Maybe he covertly watches Rachael Maddow who still spins this tale in 2024. Sad what TDS does to otherwise smart people.
you're wrong about what happened. Maher IS admitting he doesn't understand how the psychic could do that, and he's asking a magician how someone can pull off that off. Penn subsequently was evasive in providing the answer and for someone like Maher who doesn't like to deal in bullshit, he wanted the answer right away. Penn should have just come out and mentioned directly amount magicians' unwritten code that they don't divulge how tricks are done
@@joc8092 True, but Penn was full of crap because he had no idea how it was done either. Yes, some "psychics" are complete frauds and Penn knows what they do. This time he didn't but acted like he did.
Props to Penn for keeping his cool trying to explain to Bill why precisely Bill was blown away by the “psychic” at the Streisand show. For all the self-congratulation seeing grey when others see black or white, there are issues Bill will approach from only one direction without an inch of deviation.
Fascinating watching Bill's cognitive dissonance on full display as he squirms in his chair. He just can't grasp the thought that he could be wrong about a psychic being real 😂
I understand Bill wanting to disagree in order to create some interesting conversation that's fun to watch. But if he disagrees with just 1% of what the person said, his default is to always disagree. Then he'll state his position, which basically agrees with what the person said! Then the person says "Oh yes, you're right." Ego stroked. So annoying. It's particularly bad in this episode.
Penn not trying to explain the "trick" of the psychic only added to his credibility. He didn't know in particular, and he said so, but it was apparent he knew a dozen ways it could have been done.
@@temple13that absolutely was not the case. Penn famously shits on other magicians all the time, in good humor of course, but with that kind of act especially, he would have no problems telling him what was what if he actually knew
There are two obvious ways this trick was done - one of them exposed on Johnnie Carson by Randi. 1) As Penn said, the “psychic” had a confederate who pre-vetted people in the audience and found out some information about them which he then told the “psychic” about, or 2) He had a confederate on earpiece contact who looked up people in real time, feeding back information on them from online resources after they give them their names, cross checked against ticket sales and seating plan. Believing anything else is just ridiculous.
Penn Jillette never fails to amaze me with every interview I watch of his. As for, his intelligence when compared to Bill Maher, Penn is suppose to have a genius level IQ. Maher is pretty bright but I think like most people, he is dwarfed next to Penn.
I can't believe how vulnerable Bill is when it comes to psychics. Penn is giving him 1000 clues and Bill still chooses to believe in Barbara Streisand's psychic...
Yeah...I'm surprised he's that naive. Penn was trying to say to him, "Dude, there are many, many different ways this can be done..." and Bill was still saying, "But but I don't get it..."
I saw Penn and Jillette in the early 90's...and they were brilliant, and they greeted the patrons on the way out of the theater and thanked us for coming,took pictures....humble grateful guys
Same experience when I saw them in Vegas around 2010. The hallway to their theatre was huge and being 5”6 and seeing Penn up close he towered like a giant.
There was an episode of Miami Vice in the mid-eighties with Penn Jillette dressed in a powder blue leisure suit. He couldn't have been more than 175 lbs. in that episode. Not entirely sure what role he played but he ended up getting a beating from Sonny Crockett. 🤣. 🔛. 🤣
I think Penn was working his magic tricks on Bill. I feel like he challenged Bill pretty well with his perspective on things. He made Bill kind of stop and think a little bit. I think Penn seems like a very interesting, unique individual! I think he threw Bill for a loop a little bit. He challenged Bill's way of thinking in other words. I love Penns laid back calm personality. He seems very Zen.
He's not so bright on fake pandemics and the scare mongering about bird flu. I assume thats the only thing he was required to say by his freemasonic buddies.
What are you talking about? They are long time friends. Penn has been a guest on multiple Maher shows for a few decades now. If he met his match, it was 30+ years ago, not during this podcast.
Saw Penn once at a Dylan concert. Saw their Vegas show- after performances they go to the lobby and will talk with the audience members as they exit. Cool guys.
To @club random podcast staff, yall are doing a great job. I’ve noticed the improved production value, additional camera angles, better lighting and cameras. Keep up the great work. I love Bills Club Random Podcast
Bill really believes his stoner raps are speaking the truth. He can go on and on about anything. Nice to let a guest speak once in while. I love how he asks his guest a question and then answers it himself. Oh and never married?
A lot of psychics can size up a person, middle age, Italian, must know a Frank or Mike, bet her dad had a heart attack. It isn't that simple but a magician talked about how you learn body language, what is most common and if doing something like a "reading" how to get info without actually asking. It is complicated how many do their tricks and fascinating. They have people that are working for them that are guests, that question others, people in the lobby, microphones picking up conversations. I've read so much about how they do things, it's scary.
Penn and Teller's Bullshit also had a couple of eps on it. Cold reading done by very crafty psychic will usually flop from time to time, they would show videos of usually successful magician blundering and grasping. If he gets a couple of hits people forget the mistakes. Even if he can't rescue one show, it was "just a bad day" and he'll be fine. But then using confederates, researcher that's viewing the show and passing tips etc, the hitrate can go from good to "OMG maybe its real".
"There was no day when I didn't go off to school without a knot in my stomach". Thanks so much for saying this Bill. I'm 38 and til just now, hearing you say that, I thought it was just me. Thank you.
ah, Penn. you glorious grump. please don't change. I love listening to this man. he's getting better with age. I bet he doesn't think so, but he's so much more convincing these days. I don't know what it is. also, he looks better now than he did 40 years ago. that's its own kind of magic trick. good, honest people can age so well they look better after four decades. hippie grump who also happens to be I'd say the greatest living popular authority on magic. Ricky Jay, Rest in Peace, Amazing Randi, Rest in Peace.
Penn should have referred Bill to listen to the Radolab podcast episode: Blackbox, in which Penn makes an appearance. It explains the secret behind a very good mentalism trick. And the secret to almost every magic trick is disappointing. Because it's not magic. Or psychic abilities. Or a ghost. I think Penn is a great guy. He handled Bill with grace, patience, and kindness.
For some reason, I'm looking at Penn's pants with the wedge of fabric in the bottom section and am remembering the '70's when that was very popular. I had some back in the day. Mine were custom made by my mom, a seamstress extraordinaire. Looking good, Sir!
When Penn said that he carried an L.L. Bean backpack (not a stick with his bundle of clothes tied to it), I cracked up! Also, when he answered Bill's question about the name of the room he played in Vegas - so funny!
@@jzen1455 Yes, the word "wicked' is used a lot by people in places like Boston. Since Penn was born in Greenfield, about two hours inland from Boston, his use of the word 'wicked" is understandable. All in all, I really enjoyed his interview, and I learned a lot about a man I knew next to nothing about apart from his work as a partner in a famous magician act..interesting man.
I love how even the great cynic Bill Maher can fall into the “there must be ghosts” trap. Penn politely shows Bill how he has been fooled, and yet Bill doesn’t want to admit it.
Streisand’s psychic trick: associates otthe psychic will mingle with audience members before the show posing as other audience members. They steer the conversation to obtain information about the person that they’ll pass along to the psychic who will ‘randomly select’ them from the audience and ‘know’ all that shit about them.
I have a massive respect for Mr. Jillette. Bill is Bill. There's nothing new there. I think we all agree he should give/allow/grant/permit his guests to speak without interruption but he doesn't.. Bill.. come on man. You're smart and respectful. You must read some comments? Anyway. Mr. Jillette... thank you for your wisdom, intelligence respect and effing awesome magic tricks!!! As a 54 year old who as a kid loved putting on magic shows (corny and awkward as they were) made me who I am today. I've read and thoroughly enjoyed all Mr. Jillette's books (8?). The world should be happy you have used your powers only for good.... as far as we know 😮😮😮😮. Men of Bill's age don't much like unsolicited advice but ffs Bill listen more, talk less. Mr. Jillette, please stay awesome. Peace.
I was a jock all through the 3 years of high school, ( class of 72 ), I was friends with everyone in my class of 203. There was very, very little bullying, hard to remember any, but when someone would say something derogatory to someone, I would always stand up for him or her. Like I said, I got along with pretty much everyone. I loved high school, I always looked forward to be there.
This is a funny episode with some good stories and great lines and some sad stories too. Bill's sad and stressful past experiences have clearly affected his views on relationships, and children.
A lot of unmarried people usually come from dysfunctional families, which makes them dysfunctional in school, and not adjusting well to the mainstream world.
"building a time machine ,,killing hitler, buying microsoft, talking to Bill in the 8th grade" this is why i love this .comedy,conversaton , candid,thanks again from Australia
It's fantastic that Penn takes the time to stop Bill and explain to him what his answers or comments mean before Bill can just run roughshot all over the subject. "No, what I said was... ". This is a man that knows how to interject and explain himself to a non-listener.
I know its like "How can Penn be SO wrong about psychics!?" Bill tried and tried to talk sense into Penn but nooooo he had to be all "evidence" and "thats leaping to a conclusion" pfffffffft.
I loved their back and forth on what they did after high school. I'm 5 years older than them. When I was 19 my buddy and I hitchhiked to Mardi Gras (from northern Illinois). Afterwards he returned home and I went on the California. Fond memories.
🎉🎉❤❤HAY BILL...I love PENN TELLER..he looks so different and Wiser...Bill you really pick interesting guests for Club RANDOM.... continue with that premise...please.. lol 🤣🤣🤣
I accompanied a friend one afternoon before going out to a slaughterhouse where his company had a contract building additional offices. The shift manager gave us a tour of the facility and I believe he didnt consider we never been inside of the actual plant. Its where we saw and heard and smell some of the most unforgettable images, as we saw living cattle being processed and it was pretty astonishing. All day and all night. My personal opinion from my observation I saw some of cattle as they filed into maze before they receive the " knocker" they actually resigned knowing their fate they even sensed they were going to their death. I only mention this because ironically it happened last week and the intro brought it back not that left after just seeing this .
Brilliant and enormously pleasant episode. Two guys I love watching and hearing in one room. Penn's observation on the impact of society sculpting the kids which can be manifested in bi-lingual homes of immigrants is eye-opening. Never thought of it that way but I can attest. Our kids were born here. We, on the other side of the pond. And this comment, he made, is on the money.
I've heard from several people who were diabetic that went on an all meat diet and lost a lot of weight and were no longer diabetic. Probably varies among individuals like everything else.
After watching this I see a new side of Penn's disposition. When he was younger, he always came across to me as an angry atheist that was borderline arrogant because he seemed irritated with people that believed in a higher power and seemed to categorize them as ignorant by talking down to their beliefs. You could never argue the fact that he was a very intelligent guy. It seems now since he has grown older, gotten married, and had kids he has become a better man, a seasoned professional and much more patient guy... His level of calmness and gentle suggestions toward Bill's questions and curiosities blew me away... I love that Bill can never hide his "I call bullshit on that" attitude especially when he's high... I also love the fact that they both now humbly and humanely admit and say in the name of science being uncontroversial that they just don't know... I have close industry friends that know them both well, and adore them...This was a great interview between two intelligent friends that embrace logic, are still amazed at the unknown, and I love the fact that Penn is continually searching for answers. Penn's now soft spoken patience and solemn kindness toward Bill during some of his "Billism moments" in this interview was great to watch!!! You had me as a viewer at hello guys... Thanks Gents...
Bill Maher. Certain there is no God. Convinced that Showbiz Mediums are real. People like the guy that comes out at the Streisand show do the pre-show work like Penn said. as soon as you start to wonder how the medium gotten that person’s mind, you’ve lost the plot. They’re never in their mind. They get that information beforehand without the persons knowledge, thereby not requiring someone to be an actor or they use well documented techniques to draw information out of the person once they start interacting with them. The whole thing is done like Jeopardy. The medium gives information and the mark shoehorns into relevance.
For the last few years, I've only watched Maher's "Real Time" clips. Since watching his "Club Random" podcast, it is now evident that Bill Maher really doesn't know jack about a lot of things... but all be darned if he doesn't think he does. It's night and day having 50 writers and a studio Vs. 1 bottle of alcohol and a smoke room. Really exposing.
Once again, Bill Maher shows how clueless he is. It took Penn over ten minutes to explain something so simple because Bill wouldn't let him finish (i.e. how the "psychic" knew the friend's name of the audience member).
@@chrischristopher1312 That's one explanation of how it's done. He gave another explanation. Bill Maher wouldn't let him finish, but finally conceded once he let him finish.
A huge amount of this episode is Penn patiently trying to explain to Bill that he knows more about fooling people than Bill does and Bill not buying it.
I was gonna watch this but Bill was acting exactly like Bill Maher again
@@braziliantexatlantis7485 no surprise Maher talked about his love life, what a loser he was in high school, music he likes, etc like he does in every show
Lol, people should shield Bill from Derren Brown, who "guesses" more than a person's name in his shows. It's amazing, but he's similar to Penn and says it's not supernatural but just mental (and other) manipulation.
@@lauriloo38c no Trump bashing?
Im only half way through and its too much :))
Bill falls for the simplest psychic trick ever and the tells a master magician he doesn't know what he's talking about 😂😂😂😂😂
Different topic, same shit for Maher
Don't forget interrupting him every two words and then complaining that Penn isn't telling him anything.
I couldn't make it past the first 10 minutes (love Penn, Maher has become tiresome on Club Random). Bill actually fell for a psychic? Seriously?
I witnessed Penn and Teller perform a trick similar to the one Bill describes only a million times more bewildering.
I was in the audience, but it was 2012 so my memory isn’t sharp; still don’t have the foggiest clue as to how they pulled the trick off. It had to do with massive encyclopedias, text books, dictionaries, etc from various periods of history that penn and teller have never seen or read and handed out to audience members at random. Penn was able to guess specific details about the page each audience member opened at random. The randomly selected participants were completely dumbfounded. Perhaps they weren’t so random but it sure seemed that way to me (they arranged some kind of proof of the “innocence” of the randomly selected participants but I can’t remember what it was).
I think this is why Penn was trying to be careful about how he discussed this trick bc it is the trick that most bamboozled me to this day.
But yeah for a guy who constantly shits on the existence of God, which is not a “stupid” idea by any means, Bill’s inability to imagine how a tv psychic might have pulled off a parlor trick, is just laughable.
Can you say how it is done? Penn couldn’t. I’m curious.
So this is the episode where Bill explains to Penn what magic is and isn't 😂😂
the AUDACITY to tell PENN JILLETTE "I DONT THINK THATS WHAT A TRICK IS" ... get the f out Bill
This is the first negative comment that I support. Glad that Penn finally got him to understand how the process can be done. It was painful, though.
@@yessopie You react by grinding teeth. I react by giggling at how silly Bill is.
I’m astounded at how closed minded Bill is to a person that is a 50 year expert in his field.
It was a bit of a difficult watch. Just because you don't 'get' something doesn't give license to be so bloody adamant about how ignorant you are. Sofa king awkward. Love ya Bill, but you were a bit off here.
Teller would be a better guest for Bill. He would sit there silently and Bill could talk for a whole hour.
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ha, perfect comment.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Touche😂
For those who don't know: Teller does give interviews. It's rare, but he does.
I'm enjoying the conversation and Penn's blast from the past bell bottoms.
I remember wearing them. But that haircut though -- looked like a self-buzz.
Remember we use to make those bell bottoms with an Ace guitar strap sown in.
Maybe he couldn't fit into a pair of slim jeans so modifications were made?
Gotta dig his jeans✌️
I saw Penn Jillette with the Residents in 1983 at The Hammersmith Odeon after King Sunny Ade sold out the Palais. The evening seemed ruined but this show was amazing. The Residents combined performance art with music and Penn was the emcee/narrator explaining for the audience. I had no idea who he was but he was side-splitting funny. Then saw Penn and Teller years later on Broadway. As the audience got up to leave Penn came out and pleaded with everyone to sit back down. He lit a cigarette and offered a personal account of being drawn to show business, his desire to entertain, all we have is each other in this vast indifferent void. I was nearly in tears as was the rest of the audience. It was so personal and heartfelt. Immediately upon exiting the theater we ran into Penn and Teller on the sidewalk, Penn with a megaphone, crassly hawking merchandise. I doubled over in laughter, realizing he had set us up for the final, best trick of all. He's a con artist who figured out how to con people in a fun way, without ripping them off (discuss).
I love ads where celebrities promote products they obviously don’t use like a hostage message.
Bill is particularly bad at ad reads i must say
@@JohnSmith-tk7nt I think he’s the most honest ad reader because it just shows that he doesn’t use the products. Everyone else is selling better health or better heLP or whatever that talk therapy phone number is AND Helix mattresses and AG1 and acting like they use all of these products.
The ad reads on this podcast are hilarious
Bill BURR is the best at ad reads. He's about the only one who makes them funny.
*No matter the product Bill Maher promotes, it sound like the product made Bill feel like shit.*
Penn is talking over Bill's head for most of this conversation and is very gracious not to chip at him about it.
Ehh?
Bill wants Penn to give it up and he isn't doing it regardless of how long they've known each other. Highly effective.
I've always liked Penn but I'm enjoying even more this mellower version of the man. Whether it's the vegetarian diet or age or something else it's enjoyable to listen to him without the bombast that was part of his public personality in old interviews, as fun as that often was. The man's intelligence and humanity is entertainment enough.
I know that bombastic and aggressive style was something he consciously did since doing 2 man show with Teller. To get some conflict and interest on stage (or in front of the camera) with silent well mannered Teller he'd frequently be the bully. Maybe 10 years of it seeped it and he needed 30 more years to completely rid himself of that?
Yeah as you say I think that was very much his public personality. This is probably more who he really is and was. He’s an obviously intelligent man, I wouldn’t have him down as someone who behaved like that unconsciously and without a solid understanding of why he was doing it.
I love how calm and laid back Penn is. His personality is almost antithetical to Bill's.
Penn trying to take the time to explain to Bill how telepathy works, Penn is so patient and has a heart of gold. To not just yell in his face "Bill, you don't understand this you fucking idiot", especially as Bill is so condescending.
Ughh it’s so frustrating because Penn is actually explaining it far more deftly and patiently than I or many other people could manage but Bill is just like a wall and doesn’t understand the wider context of how psychics work. It’s not something that can be explained in a few minutes; you could give a college semester course on it and still not cover everything.
Penn has been doing magic for 50 years and does a magic tv show called "Fool Us" where he guesses how trick are done. Bill trying to convince Penn that what he saw during a Streisand concert wasn't a magic trick is wild!
Is this the dude whose partner got eaten by a lion?
@@HH-gv8mx Yes, this is Siegfried Penn, from the duo "Siegfried Penn and Roy Teller"
@@nikokaapa so this is Sigfried from the magic duo Sigfried and Roy even though the podcast says his name is Penn Jillette?
@@HH-gv8mx No Isaac Newton, that was a joke. And btw, I don't think you're really Isaac Newton.
@@nikokaapa Can you believe they once thought the internet would make us all a lot smarter 😅
I really wonder if bill has ever been married or has kids? Maybe he will finally address it on this episode?
Yawn.😴
This and whether or not club random is a Man Cave are the questions that keep me up at night.
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He has no kids and has never been married. Smart
Bill is so full of himself he’s become a cartoon.
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I am pondering if he will bring the subject of Woke???
I've long admired Penn Jillette. He rolled with The Residents!!! Legendary.
same for sure - not a lot of folks would know that! way cool!
@@texanmunkhad him sign my mole show record. It was sick
@guttersnype00 tap your foot to the wind
This is unbelievable, Penn's work ethic is an inspiration
He did a lot of hard work doing this interview, that’s for sure.
“I was supposed to speak to them in French….I didn’t really do that.”
LMAO
Penn was my gateway to Atheism back in the 2000's, I am eternity grateful to this man. What a fun guest
Ironic that you are eternally grateful
"the problem is your question contains the assumption" ----- Penn Jillette!
Incredible quote.
Talking to Bill Maher is like watering a sidewalk.
I'm allowed the privilege of watering my sidewalk. I get no objections other than the occasional spurge.
Yeah I agree with him a lot but would never ever want to meet or talk to him
Lol...great phrase
You would get a fine in the city I live if you watered down your sidewalks. You get a fine if your lawn sprinklers spray onto the sidewalk
It just don't sink in, does it?
Maher will NEVER admit he simply doesn’t understand something or he’s wrong about something. Look at how resistant he is to an actual expert trying to educate him. Just like how Neil deGrass Tyson tried to educate him about his fear of “GMOs”
I love Penn but he was full of crap saying he knew how that psychic did his thing. And they drug it out wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too long. Jesus, drop it and move on. He was also wrong saying atheists say, "I don't know." Wrong. Agnostics say that. Atheists say, "I know for a fact there is no God."
maher shows his bottom on this one. he actually believes in a stage psychic act.
Maher also clings to the false narrative that Trump was trained in Russia as a foreign agent. Maybe he covertly watches Rachael Maddow who still spins this tale in 2024. Sad what TDS does to otherwise smart people.
you're wrong about what happened. Maher IS admitting he doesn't understand how the psychic could do that, and he's asking a magician how someone can pull off that off. Penn subsequently was evasive in providing the answer and for someone like Maher who doesn't like to deal in bullshit, he wanted the answer right away. Penn should have just come out and mentioned directly amount magicians' unwritten code that they don't divulge how tricks are done
@@joc8092 True, but Penn was full of crap because he had no idea how it was done either. Yes, some "psychics" are complete frauds and Penn knows what they do. This time he didn't but acted like he did.
Love Penn, he’s always had his sights on reality accurately. Good show Bill, 👍🏻
Props to Penn for keeping his cool trying to explain to Bill why precisely Bill was blown away by the “psychic” at the Streisand show. For all the self-congratulation seeing grey when others see black or white, there are issues Bill will approach from only one direction without an inch of deviation.
Like Bill's take on younger generations. He rails against ageism but is quite the practitioner of it himself.
agree super wise penn is and bill gets to learn so much from him.
Medical stuff and trans stuff. Now I can add supernatural experiences, surprisingly, to topics I can ignore whatever Bill says about it.
Bill Maher may be an atheist, but he is CERTAINLY IS NOT a rational skeptic!
Fascinating watching Bill's cognitive dissonance on full display as he squirms in his chair. He just can't grasp the thought that he could be wrong about a psychic being real 😂
Watching a tack sharp, lucid Penn Jillette spar with a stoned and drooling Bill Maher is hilarious
Two minutes in and Bill interrupts Penn when he was explaining why he is a vegan.
Bill, let your guests express themselves before you jump in , please ❤
I understand Bill wanting to disagree in order to create some interesting conversation that's fun to watch. But if he disagrees with just 1% of what the person said, his default is to always disagree. Then he'll state his position, which basically agrees with what the person said! Then the person says "Oh yes, you're right." Ego stroked. So annoying. It's particularly bad in this episode.
As a vegan myself, Maher being on the board of PETA and immediately dissing veganism and vegetarianism is one of the many reasons I dislike PETA.
Penn was wonderful. I so thoroughly enjoyed getting some of his perspective.
Penn not trying to explain the "trick" of the psychic only added to his credibility. He didn't know in particular, and he said so, but it was apparent he knew a dozen ways it could have been done.
Showing respect to Barbara's psychic/magician. It's a "brotherhood" and you simply don't shit on another's show.
@@temple13that absolutely was not the case. Penn famously shits on other magicians all the time, in good humor of course, but with that kind of act especially, he would have no problems telling him what was what if he actually knew
There are two obvious ways this trick was done - one of them exposed on Johnnie Carson by Randi.
1) As Penn said, the “psychic” had a confederate who pre-vetted people in the audience and found out some information about them which he then told the “psychic” about, or
2) He had a confederate on earpiece contact who looked up people in real time, feeding back information on them from online resources after they give them their names, cross checked against ticket sales and seating plan.
Believing anything else is just ridiculous.
Penn One of my all-time favorites got to meet him three times he is amazing
Wish this was longer, Penn is so interesting
Nobody loves to talk about himself more than Billy Maher!!! It makes watching almost impossible!!
Please use more exclamation points. Low IQ move.
Usually to the point his guest is cut off and we miss out. STFU already Bill, for the umpteenth time.
Amen!
Penn Jillette never fails to amaze me with every interview I watch of his. As for, his intelligence when compared to Bill Maher, Penn is suppose to have a genius level IQ. Maher is pretty bright but I think like most people, he is dwarfed next to Penn.
It doesn't help that Bill is stoned during these interviews.
Genuinely one of the better episodes of club random
I can't believe how vulnerable Bill is when it comes to psychics. Penn is giving him 1000 clues and Bill still chooses to believe in Barbara Streisand's psychic...
It only had to be a plant who was a good actor.
Yeah...I'm surprised he's that naive. Penn was trying to say to him, "Dude, there are many, many different ways this can be done..." and Bill was still saying, "But but I don't get it..."
Bill Maher believes anything that confirms his biases and is easily persuaded by grifters who *sound* knowledgeable on a subject
Another Class Guest. Thank you, Bill
I'm glad there's still magic in a very confused world
I saw Penn and Jillette in the early 90's...and they were brilliant, and they greeted the patrons on the way out of the theater and thanked us for coming,took pictures....humble grateful guys
I think you meant Penn & Teller. ;-)
I saw Penn & Teller in 2015, same thing, they took pictures and did some chitchatting with attendees. Great experience
Same experience when I saw them in Vegas around 2010.
The hallway to their theatre was huge and being 5”6 and seeing Penn up close he towered like a giant.
There was an episode of Miami Vice in the mid-eighties with Penn Jillette dressed in a powder blue leisure suit. He couldn't have been more than 175 lbs. in that episode. Not entirely sure what role he played but he ended up getting a beating from Sonny Crockett. 🤣. 🔛. 🤣
They are Penn and Teller. Penn is this dude and Teller is the silent one. I saw them in Chicago around in the early 90's. They were excellent
I think Penn was working his magic tricks on Bill. I feel like he challenged Bill pretty well with his perspective on things. He made Bill kind of stop and think a little bit.
I think Penn seems like a very interesting, unique individual! I think he threw Bill for a loop a little bit. He challenged Bill's way of thinking in other words. I love Penns laid back calm personality. He seems very Zen.
Penn is a very smart guy. Bill has met his match this time, certainly about magic, psychics and veganism.
He's not so bright on fake pandemics and the scare mongering about bird flu.
I assume thats the only thing he was required to say by his freemasonic buddies.
What are you talking about? They are long time friends. Penn has been a guest on multiple Maher shows for a few decades now. If he met his match, it was 30+ years ago, not during this podcast.
@@BAM5636dont defend an unarmed maher. Maher is a fool
@@clarkpalaceLol, who are you? Not taking requests sorry.
Saw Penn once at a Dylan concert. Saw their Vegas show- after performances they go to the lobby and will talk with the audience members as they exit. Cool guys.
To @club random podcast staff, yall are doing a great job. I’ve noticed the improved production value, additional camera angles, better lighting and cameras. Keep up the great work. I love Bills Club Random Podcast
Bill really believes his stoner raps are speaking the truth. He can go on and on about anything. Nice to let a guest speak once in while. I love how he asks his guest a question and then answers it himself. Oh and never married?
Well said. Bill is insufferable. He is simply an idiot when speaking to a guest.
A lot of psychics can size up a person, middle age, Italian, must know a Frank or Mike, bet her dad had a heart attack. It isn't that simple but a magician talked about how you learn body language, what is most common and if doing something like a "reading" how to get info without actually asking. It is complicated how many do their tricks and fascinating. They have people that are working for them that are guests, that question others, people in the lobby, microphones picking up conversations. I've read so much about how they do things, it's scary.
Okay.
Penn and Teller's Bullshit also had a couple of eps on it. Cold reading done by very crafty psychic will usually flop from time to time, they would show videos of usually successful magician blundering and grasping. If he gets a couple of hits people forget the mistakes. Even if he can't rescue one show, it was "just a bad day" and he'll be fine. But then using confederates, researcher that's viewing the show and passing tips etc, the hitrate can go from good to "OMG maybe its real".
"There was no day when I didn't go off to school without a knot in my stomach". Thanks so much for saying this Bill. I'm 38 and til just now, hearing you say that, I thought it was just me. Thank you.
Bill: you’re married ?
Penn: I’ve been buried for..
haha, i watch it with undertitles as my english is not that good. So I first thaught thats a mistake... thanks for your comment!
ah, Penn. you glorious grump. please don't change. I love listening to this man. he's getting better with age. I bet he doesn't think so, but he's so much more convincing these days. I don't know what it is. also, he looks better now than he did 40 years ago. that's its own kind of magic trick. good, honest people can age so well they look better after four decades.
hippie grump who also happens to be I'd say the greatest living popular authority on magic. Ricky Jay, Rest in Peace, Amazing Randi, Rest in Peace.
Penn should have referred Bill to listen to the Radolab podcast episode: Blackbox, in which Penn makes an appearance. It explains the secret behind a very good mentalism trick.
And the secret to almost every magic trick is disappointing. Because it's not magic. Or psychic abilities. Or a ghost.
I think Penn is a great guy. He handled Bill with grace, patience, and kindness.
Such a great episode - Penn is one of the great intellectuals of our time
Bill Maher says, " I love Bill Maher." Me Too.
For some reason, I'm looking at Penn's pants with the wedge of fabric in the bottom section and am remembering the '70's when that was very popular. I had some back in the day. Mine were custom made by my mom, a seamstress extraordinaire. Looking good, Sir!
Bill wants Penn to explain a thing, but Bill never stops talking. Even after he asks a question he trails off with a dissertation.
Bill would rather explain to Penn how he should responded instead of allowing him to respond however he responds.
When Penn said that he carried an L.L. Bean backpack (not a stick with his bundle of clothes tied to it), I cracked up! Also, when he answered Bill's question about the name of the room he played in Vegas - so funny!
My ears perked up when he said "wicked". I had no idea he was from New England.
@@jzen1455 Yes, the word "wicked' is used a lot by people in places like Boston. Since Penn was born in Greenfield, about two hours inland from Boston, his use of the word 'wicked" is understandable. All in all, I really enjoyed his interview, and I learned a lot about a man I knew next to nothing about apart from his work as a partner in a famous magician act..interesting man.
I love how even the great cynic Bill Maher can fall into the “there must be ghosts” trap. Penn politely shows Bill how he has been fooled, and yet Bill doesn’t want to admit it.
Thank you, Bill, for letting him speak. Penn Jillette is a smart, focused, interesting dude.
“Life forms on the streets” cracked me up.
Streisand’s psychic trick: associates otthe psychic will mingle with audience members before the show posing as other audience members. They steer the conversation to obtain information about the person that they’ll pass along to the psychic who will ‘randomly select’ them from the audience and ‘know’ all that shit about them.
Yeah, I'm really shocked by Bill's lack of imagination about all the different simple ways to pull off that trick.
Jesus Bill stop interrupting him!!
Great talk. One of the best Club Random Podcasts until now.
If they put a mirror in the chair, Bill would be in his element.
😂😂😂😂😂
Some episodes I tune out rather quickly or don’t turn on but this one, like several others, I couldn’t wait to get back to. Plain ole guy talk.
Penn is a top 10 orator of our time
😂You’ve got to do waaay more research.
I waited on Penn & Teller at the ‘Magnolia Cafe,’ back in 1989. Super fun guys & GREAT tippers!!
I have a massive respect for Mr. Jillette. Bill is Bill. There's nothing new there. I think we all agree he should give/allow/grant/permit his guests to speak without interruption but he doesn't.. Bill.. come on man. You're smart and respectful. You must read some comments? Anyway. Mr. Jillette... thank you for your wisdom, intelligence respect and effing awesome magic tricks!!! As a 54 year old who as a kid loved putting on magic shows (corny and awkward as they were) made me who I am today. I've read and thoroughly enjoyed all Mr. Jillette's books (8?). The world should be happy you have used your powers only for good.... as far as we know 😮😮😮😮. Men of Bill's age don't much like unsolicited advice but ffs Bill listen more, talk less. Mr. Jillette, please stay awesome. Peace.
I was a jock all through the 3 years of high school, ( class of 72 ), I was friends with everyone in my class of 203. There was very, very little bullying, hard to remember any, but when someone would say something derogatory to someone, I would always stand up for him or her. Like I said, I got along with pretty much everyone. I loved high school, I always looked forward to be there.
This is a funny episode with some good stories and great lines and some sad stories too. Bill's sad and stressful past experiences have clearly affected his views on relationships, and children.
A lot of unmarried people usually come from dysfunctional families, which makes them dysfunctional in school, and not adjusting well to the mainstream world.
Wiki says Bill didn't know what he was until his teens
Makes me want to watch more of Penn's stuff. Amazing how much he elevated this show
Penn, those pants are a hoot. Also, I still have my original Navy bell-bottoms, patches, embroideries & all, from 1968.
"building a time machine ,,killing hitler, buying microsoft, talking to Bill in the 8th grade" this is why i love this .comedy,conversaton , candid,thanks again from Australia
It's fantastic that Penn takes the time to stop Bill and explain to him what his answers or comments mean before Bill can just run roughshot all over the subject. "No, what I said was... ". This is a man that knows how to interject and explain himself to a non-listener.
Love hearing Penn talk about his experiences. Such an interesting guy.
I was just thinking about Penn being a guest! I never thought I'd see it. This is awesome.
A guy trying to convince a magician that what he saw was real magic. Come on man. I thought Bill was smarter than that.
Bill Maher can't believe this is mere coincidence. You manifested this with your mind. You made this happen.
I love how Bill has guests on and then does all the talking
the psychic conversation was very frustrating to listen to
I know its like "How can Penn be SO wrong about psychics!?" Bill tried and tried to talk sense into Penn but nooooo he had to be all "evidence" and "thats leaping to a conclusion" pfffffffft.
I can’t believe Penn couldn’t explain exactly how a trick that Bill kind of vaguely remembers was done.
I loved their back and forth on what they did after high school. I'm 5 years older than them. When I was 19 my buddy and I hitchhiked to Mardi Gras (from northern Illinois). Afterwards he returned home and I went on the California. Fond memories.
Such a great guest! Need to get him back again.
And LISTEN next time.
Yeah, well, that’s Bill for you. What can we do?!
🎉🎉❤❤HAY BILL...I love PENN TELLER..he looks so different and Wiser...Bill you really pick interesting guests for Club RANDOM.... continue with that premise...please.. lol 🤣🤣🤣
I accompanied a friend one afternoon before going out to a slaughterhouse where his company had a contract building additional offices. The shift manager gave us a tour of the facility and I believe he didnt consider we never been inside of the actual plant. Its where we saw and heard and smell some of the most unforgettable images, as we saw living cattle being processed and it was pretty astonishing. All day and all night. My personal opinion from my observation I saw some of cattle as they filed into maze before they receive the " knocker" they actually resigned knowing their fate they even sensed they were going to their death. I only mention this because ironically it happened last week and the intro brought it back not that left after just seeing this .
It's a horrible system, at least when one hunts for their own food it's honest and supports a family for weeks to months.
I love these two and enjoyed the hell out of this. Hope Penn comes back.
Great conversation. Really enjoy Penn’s worldview.
His diplomatic efforts are well honed.
Brilliant and enormously pleasant episode. Two guys I love watching and hearing in one room. Penn's observation on the impact of society sculpting the kids which can be manifested in bi-lingual homes of immigrants is eye-opening. Never thought of it that way but I can attest. Our kids were born here. We, on the other side of the pond. And this comment, he made, is on the money.
I enjoy it when Bill puts up a fight and is proven wrong. That's what makes Bill real. He can be humbled and eventually accepts it it
Agreed
Very humorous episode, thank you.
"i parked in the handicapped spot" lol
Beyond interesting; Penn is a noble man! Thx for these conversations that make me laugh so hard-comedians are heroes, too.
Facial recognition cameras, connected to social media searches. There, I solved the mystery of how to "read" a strangers mind in the year 2024.
Loved this episode
Penn Jillette is such an intelligent and interesting man and very patient!
I remember when Penn was a libertarian.
This is good. Wide variety of topics, as always. Penn is not to be fooled with.
I've heard from several people who were diabetic that went on an all meat diet and lost a lot of weight and were no longer diabetic. Probably varies among individuals like everything else.
Doesn’t have to be meat, just low carb eating reduces your sugar 👍🏼
After watching this I see a new side of Penn's disposition. When he was younger, he always came across to me as an angry atheist that was borderline arrogant because he seemed irritated with people that believed in a higher power and seemed to categorize them as ignorant by talking down to their beliefs. You could never argue the fact that he was a very intelligent guy. It seems now since he has grown older, gotten married, and had kids he has become a better man, a seasoned professional and much more patient guy... His level of calmness and gentle suggestions toward Bill's questions and curiosities blew me away... I love that Bill can never hide his "I call bullshit on that" attitude especially when he's high... I also love the fact that they both now humbly and humanely admit and say in the name of science being uncontroversial that they just don't know... I have close industry friends that know them both well, and adore them...This was a great interview between two intelligent friends that embrace logic, are still amazed at the unknown, and I love the fact that Penn is continually searching for answers. Penn's now soft spoken patience and solemn kindness toward Bill during some of his "Billism moments" in this interview was great to watch!!! You had me as a viewer at hello guys... Thanks Gents...
Bill Maher.
Skeptical about medicine. Not about ghosts and telepathy.
Maher has the Dunning-Kruger on an epic level.
@@lauriloo38c I'm sure he's skeptical about Dunning-Kruger as well 😅
I could listen to these two talk all day
Boy is Penn patient….Bill is so frustrating with his attitude about the unknown
I’ve missed you. Every week I listen to new stuff. You get a vacation, enjoy it. Thanks for doing what you love, I love it. Cheers.
I like how Bill speaks his mind to anyone. Got to respect that
Bill Maher. Certain there is no God. Convinced that Showbiz Mediums are real.
People like the guy that comes out at the Streisand show do the pre-show work like Penn said. as soon as you start to wonder how the medium gotten that person’s mind, you’ve lost the plot. They’re never in their mind. They get that information beforehand without the persons knowledge, thereby not requiring someone to be an actor or they use well documented techniques to draw information out of the person once they start interacting with them. The whole thing is done like Jeopardy. The medium gives information and the mark shoehorns into relevance.
I enjoy this show so much, I listen to the commercials.
I'm still fast-forwarding through that stuff.
For the last few years, I've only watched Maher's "Real Time" clips. Since watching his "Club Random" podcast, it is now evident that Bill Maher really doesn't know jack about a lot of things... but all be darned if he doesn't think he does. It's night and day having 50 writers and a studio Vs. 1 bottle of alcohol and a smoke room. Really exposing.
I do intermittent fasting
So true
Absolute gold! They didn’t have one argument and this one the best ones in a while 😎
What a cool discussion... Thanks guys!
Once again, Bill Maher shows how clueless he is. It took Penn over ten minutes to explain something so simple because Bill wouldn't let him finish (i.e. how the "psychic" knew the friend's name of the audience member).
He didn't explain anything. He said "maybe they told an usher before hand"
@@chrischristopher1312 That's one explanation of how it's done. He gave another explanation. Bill Maher wouldn't let him finish, but finally conceded once he let him finish.
I’ll never think of Penn the same after knowing he’s the one that Adriana blows and sets off Christopher, in The Sopranos.