How Good is FlaSh's Zerg vs Protoss?

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @Dashmast3r
    @Dashmast3r Рік тому +116

    Thanks for the post-game analysis. That's what's been missing from most of your casts on this channel.

    • @sololegit
      @sololegit Рік тому +6

      Agreed. It doesn't have to be much, but a quick post game summary is wonderful.

    • @TagaBearClaw
      @TagaBearClaw Рік тому +3

      TRUE

    • @narsakucanada154
      @narsakucanada154 Рік тому

      A few years ago I repented to God then begged for help, "I was until then an Atheist."
      I then had a dream of Jesus coming before God and he spoke of the Tabernacle in perfect context, "A word I didn't know existed.", and what I felt from Jesus when I held him was unlike anything I've ever felt before - A lifetime of Love every second - It brought me to sobbing and it changed my life, forever.
      I've had Many experiences since, "Several witnessed", one was seeing a bright orb of light pass across my face in the dark, hours before a major surgery the second I gave up in my heart.
      Know that God and Jesus ARE real and that they Love us deeply. Let go of your hatred and Imagine yourself holding the people who've hurt you. Tell them you Love them.
      Always have hope, I believe that prayer, following God's laws & Love is the answer, and through that, Truly becoming humble, merciful, welcoming, giving, gentle, respectful, compassionate, patient, kind and forgiving, To All.

    • @alexanderxyz6146
      @alexanderxyz6146 Рік тому

      It's a nice to have - I am missing this in recent tournament casts on big events. They seem to do less of these post-game-a.s... I always thought it makes it all even more epic, the rewinds, the talking about it, and possibly including comments from the community and addressing them (in not too punny manner)

    • @alexanderxyz6146
      @alexanderxyz6146 Рік тому

      Honestly it was so fitting and concise, I didn't even notice it's a so called "post game analysis" here! It felt almost like this analysis was needed and that I wanted it. That's when you know a caster is great, it comes over very naturally. (Flash made it happen, again)
      PS: I feel it's also a good natural way for some of the mentioned (suggested) "anti-spoiler" extra length... Fills it naturally. What can there be better?

  • @0o00o000ooo
    @0o00o000ooo Рік тому +19

    im a big fan of you casting random high level replays vs cherrypicking the most exciting replays. much more fun not knowing what type of game it will be

  • @MrRysiuWroc
    @MrRysiuWroc Рік тому +116

    anti spoiler comment!

  • @nafet
    @nafet Рік тому +7

    Muta damage triggered a toss all in.

  • @iopqu
    @iopqu Рік тому +5

    This is why you don't get fast overlord speed. Two hydra does so much when Protoss pressures you with just zealots

  • @jackymao2131
    @jackymao2131 Рік тому +4

    He attacked with hydras to force storms right b4 the mutalisk came that was awesome

  • @nixlarfs1002
    @nixlarfs1002 Рік тому +4

    I _did_ raise my hand twice!

  • @yaboykirby7789
    @yaboykirby7789 Рік тому +4

    I think Flash was trying to hit a pre goon range timing with those Mutalisks.
    Protoss had one half health Corsair, no Dark Archons, no goon range, Flash baited a lot of psi storms before he went in and Flash parked his Mutalisks on top of probes so psi storm can backfire (as we saw in this game).

    • @yaboykirby7789
      @yaboykirby7789 Рік тому +1

      It seems like a very hard and risky build to play. In this game where Flash's build WORKED he had to micro Mutas while building enough Overlords to compensate for the Overlords he's going to lose when Protoss attacks while making sure he still built enough Hydralisks. That's something the best Zergs in the world would find extremely difficult.
      And there's a lot of things that could go very wrong like Protoss having an extra 2 Corsairs (this happens sometimes) or Goon range being done at a weird time (happens sometimes).
      If the build is so resource intensive that Flash has to stay at such a low Drone count to afford the Mutas + Hydras he needs AND he can't afford to make a really good Sim City then the build seems high risk low reward. I think this build is definitely optimizable though, how much I'm not sure.
      The other thing is is this a mindgame build? Did Flash trick his opponent into not having "anti-Muta" somehow? If so this build might just take too much effort to get good at for what it is.

  • @lesna_pechalba
    @lesna_pechalba Рік тому +7

    I feel like the highest rank of Z's wouldve used mutas to snipe the templars while P was congolining down his base. He used mutas like it's a T unit. Maybe 1 sunk wouldve done alot as well on the expo. I've seen Queen always simcity+1 sunk on his 3rd expo so he doesn't get owned by zealots and save him time to do something else than trying to defend.

  • @justincronkright5025
    @justincronkright5025 Рік тому +1

    The +1 armour finishing during the last attack was what gives the zealots enough staying power there... if he hadn't have had any storms left either that wouldn't have worked. But the +1 was doing so much work there to countre Zerg's +1.

  • @milesg7877
    @milesg7877 Рік тому

    A few lukers and the mutas focusing ht instead of drones. Also, him sending in the mutas triggered the counter attack a great game flash defense early was outstanding. He is stretching the eco but his hydra attack seemed late and your right the building did conflict

  • @AntiDoctor-cx2jd
    @AntiDoctor-cx2jd Рік тому +2

    ZERG IS THE HARDEST RACE!

  • @DerKontrabass
    @DerKontrabass 11 місяців тому

    Artosis casts Flash's games with such unusual level of respect and dedication :)

  • @unblessedcoffee1457
    @unblessedcoffee1457 Рік тому +1

    those mutas went to top gun academy or something

  • @tade5003
    @tade5003 Рік тому +6

    Zerg life…make a a batch of drones at the wrong time and ur toast. You cant do mistakes with Z.

  • @russellsheridan3957
    @russellsheridan3957 Рік тому +1

    Flash had significant worker deficit. Maybe mutas were just a tiny bit too late, especially with the goons coming

  • @chessentials4261
    @chessentials4261 11 місяців тому

    Idea: Bring up some historic games/aeries and cast them from the modern perspective (e.g. Flash vs Jaedong games, prior ASL finals, etc).
    I am aware you commented many of these live :D, but it is a bit tricky to navigate. Having some sort of playlist/place for historic matches aould be a nice way to immerse oneself in the games rich historical legacy

  • @Winnetou17
    @Winnetou17 Рік тому +3

    I like that Spire placement. It has natural defenses. That is, if the protoss comes or drops or recalls 20 zealots, because of it's placement it can still only be attacked by .. 2 ? Same idea with the dragoons, you can hardly have enough space to put many dragoons there to attack it. If everything is cleaned up, they yeah, it will be quick, but if the whole expansion is cleared, then probably Flash already lost the game anyway.

    • @Pico141
      @Pico141 Рік тому +3

      The main concern for spire placement is just making it harder to scout - and that spot is pretty good for that. Losing a spire in zvp is extremely rare, and there's no recalls or mass drops in PvZ.

    • @TheTrooperMB
      @TheTrooperMB Рік тому +1

      i have never used recall in pvz in my life , that just doesnt work , arbiter is bad in that matchup , u want gas for archons , storms and later reavers , not stasis or recalls

    • @Winnetou17
      @Winnetou17 Рік тому

      Ok, fair points with the arbiter, I don't remember it being used also. But seeing zealots destroy key buildings, I did see. Quite rare, but I did.

  • @robertovonschoettler
    @robertovonschoettler Рік тому +1

    It is not the hands that I put up for you arty

  • @StriKe_jk
    @StriKe_jk Рік тому +8

    Flash would have won.

  • @DjAtmaWeapon
    @DjAtmaWeapon Рік тому

    Hahahah yup, what a weird game xD Wasn't pretty sure at the end, really though it would hold as you said.

  • @gosuf7d762
    @gosuf7d762 Рік тому +1

    he had 10 hydras at nat but they were funneled through narrow path and shot down one by one by goons.

  • @matrix3509
    @matrix3509 Рік тому +1

    Would love to see how Flash approaches ZvZ.

  • @Pico141
    @Pico141 Рік тому +8

    It seems Flash is really having issues figuring out whether to make drones or units. He definitely was way too behind on workers and at 11 minutes there should be more hatches and/or lurker tech

    • @bigmikeobama5314
      @bigmikeobama5314 Рік тому +1

      yeah protoss was rather late on observer tech, seems like lurkers wouldve made the difference

    • @narsakucanada154
      @narsakucanada154 Рік тому

      A few years ago I repented to God then begged for help, "I was until then an Atheist."
      I then had a dream of Jesus coming before God and he spoke of the Tabernacle in perfect context, "A word I didn't know existed.", and what I felt from Jesus when I held him was unlike anything I've ever felt before - A lifetime of Love every second - It brought me to sobbing and it changed my life, forever.
      I've had Many experiences since, "Several witnessed", one was seeing a bright orb of light pass across my face in the dark, hours before a major surgery the second I gave up in my heart.
      Know that God and Jesus ARE real and that they Love us deeply. Let go of your hatred and Imagine yourself holding the people who've hurt you. Tell them you Love them.
      Always have hope, I believe that prayer, following God's laws & Love is the answer, and through that, Truly becoming humble, merciful, welcoming, giving, gentle, respectful, compassionate, patient, kind and forgiving, To All.

  • @00Noontide
    @00Noontide 11 місяців тому

    Gg! Good cast.

  • @i2eB6L
    @i2eB6L Рік тому

    I hear Flash, I raise my hand

  • @alexanderxyz6146
    @alexanderxyz6146 Рік тому

    gg I came all over this video.

  • @TheDnltorio
    @TheDnltorio Рік тому +2

    Artosis, with FlaSh having so many off race games, is there a chance that he will return to ASL as random and try and truly cement his title as the greatest gamer ever?

    • @sebdeef1086
      @sebdeef1086 Рік тому

      He wont even comeback as Terran lol

    • @Animefightforum
      @Animefightforum Рік тому

      He is in very deep waters rep-wise so I'd hope so for the sake of the game, but think its wishful thinking at this point madlad

    • @Obeliskz87
      @Obeliskz87 Рік тому

      @@Animefightforum He is deep water? How so?

  • @marsmartian
    @marsmartian Рік тому

    If we could see active mining income, we'd be able to see how disruptive interrupting early minerals can be

    • @Pico141
      @Pico141 Рік тому +1

      We probably would've gotten those features if, around Starcraft Remastered release, some boomers that play this game weren't coping like "oh but we love not having all the information and being uncertain about the state of the game" and so Blizzard made it so you don't even get worker counts and build queues in live casts. You can only find that in replays.
      It's so stupid that they didn't just make those features optional.

  • @FP-ih1lu
    @FP-ih1lu Рік тому

    love u artosis

  • @silvercomic
    @silvercomic Рік тому

    Hey Artosis do you know in these Flash games if he's playing random or race picking?

    • @spinvn
      @spinvn Рік тому

      Race picking. But you can also tell that from his opponent's build order

  • @GustavoJanssen
    @GustavoJanssen Рік тому +1

    Give us flash boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @nandinoo
    @nandinoo Рік тому

    Fl-Fl-Flash!

  • @warioman91
    @warioman91 Рік тому

    ✋️🤚 always enjoying your vids Artosis

  • @branovropka8959
    @branovropka8959 Рік тому

    love u arty

  • @kevincarrigan2798
    @kevincarrigan2798 Рік тому

    I feel like it is watching Uthermal play zerg. He tries to play it much more like a terran and I feel it throws people off.

  • @uero-ro
    @uero-ro 11 місяців тому

    Flash left with 12 Hydras at 90% completion?

  • @Andthepanda
    @Andthepanda Рік тому

    Artosis please fix your reflux acid when casting

  • @TagaBearClaw
    @TagaBearClaw Рік тому

    GGS

  • @realEvanRichards
    @realEvanRichards Рік тому

    Hydra good unit.

  • @oliverwarren1074
    @oliverwarren1074 Рік тому

    It feels like every video with flash, bisu, stork or jaedong ... they lose. I need to run the numbers.

  • @cl8804
    @cl8804 Рік тому

    did not at all look like zerg would die, ye

  • @Zyzyx442
    @Zyzyx442 10 місяців тому

    So Flash is God, but he can't make Ghosts or Scouts work in ASL. Does this prove God does not exist? Or is it possible?

  • @billybob-wx2re
    @billybob-wx2re Рік тому

    flash coulda won that for sure.
    he just lost interest and wanted to gogo next

  • @wyldechild7122
    @wyldechild7122 Рік тому

    Al go rhy umb

  • @andrerossel8394
    @andrerossel8394 Рік тому

    This is simple. Dragoon sucks zealots are good. Flash needed lurkers

  • @krakenpolar1
    @krakenpolar1 9 місяців тому

    prottos are so strong in starcraft 1... thats just impossible for zerg to win... and you cant select more than 12 units... thats horrible

    • @sharpasacueball
      @sharpasacueball 7 місяців тому

      What? Play protoss and come back after stopping an all in from a zerg player

  • @joelb1299
    @joelb1299 Рік тому

    Easy Zerg

  • @deepzerocool
    @deepzerocool Рік тому

    RT out of sync w the game situation

  • @Link457
    @Link457 Рік тому

    third

  • @prasaite
    @prasaite Рік тому

    First