Schumacher And Hill Collide In Title Showdown | 1994 Australian Grand Prix
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- One point separated Michael Schumacher and Damon Hill heading into the final round of the 1994 season in Adelaide. What happened next went down in F1 history... Follow #65YearsOfF1 on Twitter for more iconic F1 moments
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I'd say that's 55% Michael's fault and 45% Schumacher's fault
I mean Hill used the same race track as him. It's clearly his own fault here.
@@Rainaman- no just no
I hope you guys understand how clearly ironic my post was
@@DTCh1ms do you know what sarcasm is?
@@sandalphoncpu sarcasm............................
Im still amazed how Schumi wasnt disqualified from the championship. I cant see how Hill stayed this calm after he has been robbed from the world championship. I wud be furious.
RickPat NB The only reason that Damon stayed this calm is because he is a gentleman, something that Schumacher will never be.
The Tru Senna - death karma?
RickPat NB He probably stayed this calm because he New the championship would already be Schumachers if the FIA didn't disqualify Michael unfairly earlier in the season to even get a last-race decider.
Leon Rambach He "new"?? Special way of knowing something or what is it?
Philip Koen argumentum ad hominem... A cliché way to run from an opponent argument
And people think Max/Lewis was a controversial finish 😂
There can be more than one controversial finishes to seasons, I hope.
It was, but for a different reason.
@@_Dimon_ the fia is always for the fan fav… i dont get why maybe because theyre making more money like that 🤔
because new kid
Final score:
Ski Hill: 1
Schumacher: 0
This was waaaaaaay crazier than Max and Lewis what's funny no one holds this against Schumacher when we talk about his legacy.
They are hypocrites
Oh I've been holding it against him and never liked him after this during his F1 career.
Did you read the coments? 😂 everyone is hating on schumacher
Legacy ......? Most worst loser ever !!
true fans talk.
Hill didn't collide with Schumacher. The appropriate title should be "Schumacher deliberately hits Hill to win his first title"
Kamikaze
Does it really matter? He was on to win 6 more anyways
German trying japanese tactic on a brit. Who would have ever known.
schumacher crashes into wall then collides and crashes with Hill to win race
🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 Grande Schumi 🇮🇹🇩🇪
This is really pathetic. I feel so bad for Damon Hill.
Karma took it from Michael in 1997 and Jacques got it for Williams and became the first Canadian to be world champion
Schumacher deserved the Championship way more than Damon Hill.
No he didn't he's a 6 time champion and Damon is a 2 time champion
Damon did not deserve the 1994 championship. Counting races where they both finished Schumacher outraced Hill 11-4. The only reason Hill was even challenging for the title was thanks to the FIA who did their best to hand Williams the title that year.
hmmm . Schumacher 7 titles and Hill 1, verify your say guy :p
this is how I will (sadly) alway remember Schuhmacher. He knew he was going down and he took Hill with him to secure the title.
He tried doing the same with Villeneuve 3 years later...
A genius manoeuvre. Some say it was his flaw but I think of it as ruthless desire. Had Hill waited then he would have been champion but he was impulsive against a wounded adversary. Had I been sitting where Schumacher was I'd have done the exactly the same.
Hill took out Schumacher and himself. The FIA had to give hill a permanent raceban after this move
I mean you gotta do what you gotta do to win.
@@RubensBarrichello. Obvio pero sin jugar sucio
Michael will of course be one of the all-time greats of Formula 1, but I think we can all agree that this was completely unsportsmanlike
He is the dirtiest drive I've ever seen in my life and couldn't hold a title on his own efforts
Schumacher was consistently unsportsmanlike - one of the drivers I have least respected ever since I started watching in the 80s. The fact that he was so talented makes it even worse - he didn't even need to behave like that, and yet...
from Hill to try and dive in there, instad of wait 2 more turns
@@portugalmath thats Senna
Penny for the great Brazilians thoughts looking down from heaven that day lol
And fans nowadays cry about Verstappen... honestly, what was Schumi doing? racing or ping pong?
What kind of ping pong have you been watching 😂
I thought it was more of a demolition derby
Cowboy Animal just because it’s Schumi doesn’t make it better.
Verstappen is very agressive and that's the reason why you hate him
He was fighting for the ping pong championship
@@hecker2309 No, we don't like him because he's stupid enough to crash and never takes responsibility
I really don't understand ,how FIA did not disqualify Schumacher!!! This is unbelievable and unacceptable ! Really shameful
your comment is unacceptable. they already robbed schumacher off atleast 40 points and 4 victories inthat season..
Martin Kove FAN BOY ALERTTT
Martin Kove RACIST ALERTTT
Martin Kove STUPID ALERT. I know Islam is not a race it’s a religion and I know myself white Muslim also you can b racist by religion and you lonely bitch.
Martin Kove enjoy hell my friend where you will be put in lava by Allah for iternity.
Prost - Senna 1989 (successfully)
Senna - Prost 1990 (successfully)
Schumacher - Hill 1994 (successfully)
Schumacher - Villeneuve 1997 (failed)
Verstappen - Hamilton 2021 (???)
Only Hamilton fans would blame the guy who gets rear ended😂 what a joke
@@mindsenigma588 The guy that braked with a brake pressure of 69 bars and 2.4g of decelaration. But this guy is talking about the last race this weekend and either hamilton or verstappen will take out the other opponent.
@@mindsenigma588 tell me you don't know anything about F1 without telling me you don't know anything about F1
@@KatarinaTVD people named katarina really be walkin around replying to days old comments😂😭
@@mindsenigma588 It was a day or less what? You're not evsn using your words correctly.
Still haunts me, I was 10 years old at the time, I always hated Schumacher after that despite him being one of the Gratest.
So I'm not the only one :p
You were played my the anti-Schumacher press.. just like Damon Hill. Truly disgusting what the press and sport did to Schumacher. Used him to make money and defamed him at the same time.
@@toast2610 No I actually watched him. Yes he was a very talented driver but I look at the total picture. He was unsportive when he lost. He intentionally tried to decide the championship 2 times with a crash and he got favourid by the officials alot more then anyone else. I'm a Senna fan. Watch the documentary on him from the early 90's before his death. Senna was a great man in every aspect of his live.
I totaly agree although he was one of the bests although i was very very young i totally hated him and i wished always to losing.
not one of the greatest but the greatest ever
no need to be genius to see that Micheal did it on purpose. pathetic!
And you are not pathetic?
Prove him wrong then, Nick.
Marc Vangraven Funny, Niki Lauda said differently.
But I guess you are more trustworthy.
and you would do the same. shut up kid
Chris Purolover Niki Lauda also says that Hamilton is the greatest f1 driver ever, so you can’t take him to seriously.
It's amazing how much heavier F1 cars have got, when you see Schumi's Benetton just fly when it made contact.
Watch Abu Dhabi 2018.. grosgean and hulkenberg
Prins van Oranje it’s not that, it’s just the sheer power
@@user-eq7zq6so3j modern f1 cars have more power my guy
@@TheImSolid yeah, so does that mean the bennetton doesn't?
it didnt fly on contact, but drove on 2 wheels for a matter of milliseconds, then hit the barrier.
Michael is clearly a naturally gifted driver at an exceptionally high standard, more so than Damon. However knowing his car was damaged he ran Damon off the track. This together with running an illegal car earlier in the season he did not deserve the championship, and should have been disqualified from this race. For making the same move on Jacques Villeneuve in 1997, that exactly what happened.
i mean he was given outrageous penalties earlier so in fact hill shouldn't even have been able to challenge for the title
@@name5798 that's not Hills fault though. Mik raced awfully here
@@iggyharl5780 well its not like anything can change and plus hill couldn't catch schumacher on pure pace
you are not wrong but plz remind that senna, prost and mansell all did the same to win a championship in this way... michael was just the last one who did it and than it got forbidden in the rules... so thats why its not so controversial these days
@@Mikoto_Suoh nah, it was controversial in 1994 too
Imagine the outrage if Hamilton did this
Hamilton has been very lucky not to get penalties on few occasions whereas during Schumi's time they the organizers used to wait to levy penalties on Schumacher
@@multikannan100 well deserved penalties. He crashed into people intentionally. What do u expect. Of course they'll give him a penalty
@@multikannan100 and could u give some examples of the "few occasions" Lewis has got lucky. And even if those r valid they r cancelled out by the fact that ferrari in the last 4 years or so have gotten away with so many
@@gorillachamp5271 German GP the stewards helped him when he was stuck this is not allowed another incident involving his entry in the pit lane recently the stewards did scrutinize but let him free a similar incident happened with Schumacher long back he was penalized
Single minded drive to win. Senna was the same and did the same
Its not Schumacher and Hill colliding, it's Schumacher deliberately driving into Hill and not being punished for it.
Hill came out of nowhere.Damon was lucky for the championship to be this close because michael got race ban.
Massive respect for damin hill here from a german schumacher fan. he said in the schuhmcher netflix documentation that he doesnt know what he would have done beeing in schumis position with one point ahead. honest guy and know i like Damon even more. Great sportsman!
Did he say this before or after Schumachers accident? Sound like Hill was being generous to me
Hill is a gentleman
After Silverstone every one shows the old school crashes against rivals 😂
Exceot Siliver stone was NEwey car merchant's fault.
Schumacher hasn't respect for other driver. He's just dirty driver.
Same as Senna and Max.
@@dampaul13 Senna wasn't a saint, but that's too much.
And Verstappen is just retarded....
Both senna and msc are patheteiskajq
@@dampaul13 and?
Schumacher deserves a permanent ban
@@leart78 And what?
Reason i never liked MS. But i respect his talent. Get well soon Champ.
+MrLewisbate And ?
+MrLewisbate No you laughed, i asked ?
+MrLewisbate i asked a question first. whar was the reason to laugh about Senna pic? Then i answer your question with pleassure.
+MrLewisbate Thank you. I never hated Senna because he is an example for me, not only as a driver. About 1990? Take a look back at 1989, and THINK, for e moment, if that happened to you !
+MrLewisbate No Sir, what happened in 89 was Embarresing. JM Balestre giving Title to Prost, both from France! Again, how could you do that when other drive (Senna) continues to race and the other retires and doesnt even try to race, and still get the tittle ? Too much comfort zone my friend.
About Hill move? - Im a Racer in real life. If you see a guy in front making mistakes, going on the grass, coming back in tarmac, being slower in corner, trying to close the gap moving left-right - you WILL try to overtake him! Hill did exactly what a driver must do. MS did a very bitchy thing. Why? Because MS KNEW his car was slightly damaged. So way he was thinking is ''My car is damaged, lets damage his car too''. That is selfish, not tolerated, and not sportive at all.
This comment section in a nutshell:
>Schumi is a cheat
>Hill is, too
>Senna was better than both of them
>Senna was just as much of a cheat
Senna perfected the "chop" a long time before Schumacher started driving. If Prost was creeping past, Senna simply pushed him off the track by slowly moving the car over so there was no room. What he did is no better. He also did that to Nigel Mansell during qualifying for the Brazilian GP in 1992. Should have been sent to start at the back for that.
true, napo xD
And the planned crash that Helped Senna win 1990 F1 Title??
Senna and Prost, locked in a close battle for the 1990 title, started at the front of the pack with Senna on the pole. Prost, driving a Ferrari, moved quickly in front, forcing Senna to try to regain the lead by passing from the inside. But as Prost maneuvered his car to the right for the first turn of the course, the Brazilian then collided with ferrari driver, sending parts of Ferrari and his McLaren-Honda flying into the air. Both drivers spun out into the dirt and later walked off the track.
Prost could lodged a formal protest on it I think.
In this case, I defend Senna: 1 year earlier, Prost threw the car over Senna, but Senna managed to recover and win the race, but was punished (by the always corrupt FIA). Senna simply took revenge 1 year later. Prost did not complain because he had done exactly the same.
I'd have you liked it better, had you stopped on your third point.
I hope verstappen doesn't plan to win the title like this...
Same.
You mean like Hamilton did in Silverstone?
Who else is here to see how the 2021 season ends? History repeats itself
Max takes out Hamilton in the 1st corner of Abu Dhabi
Max watching how to take Lewis out whitout getting penalties
Me, even if he'd probably get excluded from the WDC standings.
Sadly Mad Max so feels its his title that he will stop at nothing to achieve it. Lewis really has to be on his A++ game to get this title. He has to have all his collision avoidance senses on high alert because MM will have him off at the first opportunity.
@@wcads623 100%
Congratulations Hill! the true champion of 1994
I still can't believe the commentators were saying that Hamilton equalled Schumacher's 6 world titles in 2020... really strange
@moi paslui i agree but not a better car though. maybe at the first few races before williams figure out the new regulations.
@moi paslui You only forgot to say that Schumacher got the two race ban for ignoring a black flag (disqualification) during a race. Has any other driver in F1 ever ignored a black flag and raced to the chequered flag?
RedPhroggz he didn‘t ignore it. It was up to his team to order him back into the pit, which they didn‘t do. Not his fault.
Not to forget that the black flag was unwarranted anyway considering that race control didn‘t properly communicate to the team that Schumacher had to do a stop-and-go penalty. They thought the penalty would be added up after the race.
What happened at Silverstone 1994 was by all means not Schumacher‘s fault. Getting disqualified for that race and banned from two other races because of an communication error was absolutely way too cruel.
It was pretty clear how the FIA desperately tried to close the gap between Schumacher & Hill.
@moi paslui better driver? No. The best car? Yes
How the fuck sch was able to keep the title? He clearly fucked up Hill's car intentionally.
He had the corner, you might disagree with that, but Senna did the exact same thing many times and people cheer him for that...for whatever reason. Bottom line, he had the corner and he took it.
That was the time when you were allowed to do anything for the tittle
Orvieta lol.... Schumacher would have hit the wall he cut that sharp in to hill.
He was used to do that, he didn't care at all about others pilots' security.
Schumacher in 1994 was penalized ran 2 races less than Hill
I have lots of pop corn to go round if you're here thinking what I'm thinking....
Schumacher in fairness deserved that championship. The races he was disqualified from by the British stewards was a joke. No disrespect to Hill, a great driver, and did challenge Schumacher impressively, but British fans need to see this more objectively IMO.
There’s no denying that Schumacher wasn’t afraid to grime his rivals in order to win. He tried the exact same tactic in 1997 against Villeneuve and it deservedly backfired.
There is no excuse for that kind of racing. It’s similar tactics to what a child would use in a game.
Oh yea 😂that was karma for sure
Just like Nico did to Lewis
That was so typical Michael Schumacher. All Damon had to do was just being patience, Michael's right rear suspension might have been damaged anyways.
Of course Schumacher's car was damaged after the contact with the wall. His car is all wobbly afterwards. Too bad Damon didn't see it or just was too impatient.
@@RedPhroggz **too bad that schumacher was a sore loser and cut off Hill into the corner
@@user-lf3zx3rc3p m8 you need to watch the season. Damon Hill was on course towards one of the biggest steals in the sports. The whole season he outraced Michael in only 2 races. The reason why he even was a title challanger is because of penalties and race bans Schumi endured.
@@srxt6758 doesn’t change the fact what he did was grub dog act.
Yep Damons slight misjudgement in the heat of the moment cost him what could have been his first of two WDC. Shumis car was done and he knew it which was why he moved back on track and turned into Hills car.
Fun fact: this is F1's first ever video with the comments turned on. Before that, every comment section was turned off.
Audies
MSC used his car like a torpedo once he realised it was damaged after running off the track . He wouldn't have done that to Ayrton cos he would be afraid of what would happen next.
Make no mistake, I am the BIGGEST Schumacher fan ever. That being said, I KNOW that if an incident like this happened today, Schumacher would be blamed for it, given the direction that race stewards have taken over the last few years.
+Ferrariman601 If It was Hamilton it would be a warning.
+vulix14 lol yes
+Rafael FenoméNadal Today's F1 sucks in comparison.
+Rafael FenoméNadal Today's F1 sucks in comparison.
Unless you are Max Verstappen
Schumacher got what he deserved 3 year later in Jerez ;)
No doubt ,stole it from Williams in 1994 and got it stolen by Williams in 1997 I'm a big Williams fan and if they'd won both after losing senna that would've been amazing but at least they got the constructors
And when he last went skiing
Thats fucked up dude... Even if you dont like him you dont make fun of people serious injuries.
+Gabe That's low man; Go get mental help you need it
what about 1995?
Damon is the real champion of the F1 1994 season.
He would be if he would have won the last race and if FIA would not have tried to cheat Schumacher out of the title race with some nonsense 4 race bans.
@@alexkrstulovic6054
I remember that the German driver was disqualified in some races for irregularities already foreseen in the regulation. And how would Hill win with his Williams broken by Schumacher's Benetton?
@@canaltv7732 Well that's what I am saying, had he finished the race ans got a point he would have deserves it. Villneuve deserved it in 1997, he finished the race, the car was damaged. He became world champion. Schumacher got some race bans and even races took from him for no reason, those irregularities were never worthy of I believe 4 race penalties.
@@alexkrstulovic6054 OK my friend!
no, he NOT. look at the OFFICIAL champion. he was defending is position. You clearly have no idea.
What a cheet,i hope this is not a repeat for Lewis and Max next weekend....
I'm still amazed the Micheal didn't get penalised for that!
Penalised for what, running into the car BEHIND him, bahaha!
@@markmark5269 Schumi fanboy spotted
@@markmark5269 you sound triggered though.
Because they didn't have the rules-set to do it at that time.
Neither did rosberg
He should've been stripped of all points as was the case in 97.
that's called karma.
@@el_Regaz should've been karma in both cases
Wrong! It was a foul by Damon, the rules were different back then. And Villeneuve did it on purpose.
@@turrican4d599 dumb
Who's here prior to the Verstappen v Hamilton last race showdown in 2021?
while I agree with this accident in 1997. I really don't think that Schumacher hit Hill on purpose in 1994. I watched it a lot and you can see that MSC was infront of Hill and the turned it, while Hill just dived in Schumacher causing a crash. Hill probably should just stayed calm and overtake him in the next corner safely. But I agree that Schumacher had that killer instinct
Finally, someone who has actually studied the video.
It was definitely malicious but nowhere near as malicious as 1997. 1997 was punished for a reason, the move was reckless.
That's why I've never liked Michael Schumacher. He always did this kind of things.
and you would do the same. shut up kid
FULLY AGREE
@@wglassel1718 Because he is insulting him?
Keisuke Takahasi Prost wouldn’t do that, but Senna for sure
You will not have to worry about him anymore.
He deliberately drive into Hill, its not even debatable.
he drove into the car behind him? LOL, some of the comments are precious!
@@markmark5269 Yes he did, Schumacher was much slower after he bunped the wall. But I think it is part of racing, Senna and Prost did this in both 89 and 90.
@@alexkrstulovic6054 imo that is not part of the racing and anyone who does that deserves a ban
@@markmark5269 it is obvious he knew Hill had him so he turned into him to take him out... exact same thing he tried to Villeneuve at Jerez. Except at Jerez it did not work
Who cares nobody liked Hill anyways. Only the locals.
Anyone here after Hamilton and Verstappen crash?
Please don't let this be the case of 2021...
Please do.
@@boostav well, it depends... if both DNF, i'd be happy too as MAX will win
Oooof
No wonder Damon was so salty today on the sky commentary
And they call Max the Crashtappen and Michael the Goat.
Cause their idiots. Some people are actually trying to argue that Schumacher wasn't at fault
3 years later like Alonso said,
“Karma”
It wasn't karma. Michael won by bending the rules without repercussion.
It was karma because in 1997 he did the same thing and was disqualified from the championship
@@judenjeru5081 Ah OK that makes sense.
Ye I recommend watching f1’s video about Jacque villnerve 1997 championship win 20 years later
2013 too
Max will be watching this looking for tips. I'm putting a bet on a Hamilton DNF in Abu Dhabi.....
Yep sadly Lewis is in worst possible position. Mad Max could have given Shumi tips on tactical fouls.
@@wcads623 Wouldn't be in this position if no Hamilton crash in Silverstone. Should've been a champion already, Hamilton doesn't deserve it this year.
@@grandg3578 Well sorry but Mad Max certainly doesn't deserve to be WDC this year. The only way he will get it is to ram Lewis off in Abu Dhabi. If he gets the WDC that way or any other of his overly aggressive track manoeuvres eg Silverstone, he will lose a massive amount support and respect from F1 fans. What goes around comes around Max.😬
@@wcads623 you are completely delusional
@@grandg3578 you and me both then 😜
This is happening again.
Just remember, Schumacher was black flagged from 2 races for violations that weren't his fault, one caused him to be suspended for 2 races, so Hill had 4 races to make up the 2 points he needed to pass Schumacher to win the title but didn't.
Don't forget that WIlliams had tons of problems with the car in the early part of the season, also their lead driver died. Schumacher got suspended because Benneton were cheats, and that's before you get into the illegal traction control controversy...
@@Zero_Ninetyno, the 2 race ban was because he didn't respect a black flag, which was his teams fault. Nothing to do with MSC whatsoever. Was a stunt by the FIA
Still riding Schumacher's meat, I see.
In any event, Schumacher deserved the 1994 title. The only reason Hill had a shot was due to all the harsh bans and DQs the FIA gave to Schumacher.
Because they cheated !!!
Schumacher is one of the best, but should be disqualified in 1994.
He was DSQ for 3 or 4 races without a reason, they did this to make the season interesting again because Schumi was to fast for everyone else.. but let me guess, traction control bla bla bla only because sore looser Senna said this.
And by the way, Hill was behind Michael so it was Michaels corner, if Damon would have waited 1 more corner he would have been on P1.
But at the end you cant change history and Damon got his title 2 years later, so everyone is happy.
Dustin Pohl
Yeah that move was a joke, he hit the wall, and weaving around the track to hit Hill. Would have been hilarious if he missed
Dustin Pohl, are you convinced of your argument? Benetton's cars were illegal, Michael Schumacher is the sore looser (This move, Rubbens Barrichello, Mónaco 2005 (I think) Monaco 2010...) and Senna IS AND WILL BE considered the best
J CP, Senna did the same to Prost. Twice.
@@jcp6965 hoooow? How do you know it the car was illegal? Just because Senna did this because he knew schumi was faster than him. Why are you so convinced of your argument?
You all praise senna when he did it to Prost twice but hate it when Schumacher does it. Please explain?
Difference is Senna is dead. If he were still alive he certainly would not get all the praise he had.
Mr WunderBar Prost who did it in Senna
senna did it twice? are you high?
It's just hypocrisy, that's all. There two groups which are usually the worst offenders are the Brazilians and the British. The Brazilians because Senna was their champion, their hero, and could do no wrong in their eyes. And the British because this was a British driver, and because Michael Schumacher was German. They hate everything that isn't their own kind, and cheating is apparently only justified when the people they favour do it. Double standards. The rest all just praise Senna because Senna is dead and as per the James Dean effect he is a hero who is remembered as being greater than he actually was...and all his transgressions are automatically forgiven and forgotten.
Who suddenly moved the pole 90 from the racing line to the dirty side of the track? It wasn't Senna. I think that this should also be mentioned. The French connenction was too obvious in those two years.
Schumacher was a unfair man. How Schumacher is laughing after the news Hill is out. Here laugh the devil.Hill is the worldchampion 1994.
@Firstname Lastname He was cheating in many races. FACT!!!
@Firstname Lastname We are talking about 1994!!! Hill was one of the driver in F1 history with the most bad luck
The moment that paved thr way for an outstanding career: Michael Schumacher......just think how life would have been for him without this first world champion victory.....now he is fighting his strongest battle with his family
Here before Max vs Lewis at Abu Dhabi 2021
Same.
And it turned out to be just as controversial but for different reasons lol
The more I watch it, the more I'm becoming convinced that it was a racing incident. Schumacher holds the racing line after his off-track excursion, Hill comes from behind and Schumacher steers in when Hill is still clearly behind him, it's thus Schumacher's corner to take. However, Hill carries more speed as a result of Schumacher going off track, so Schumacher could have misjudged the speed that Hill had, making it a race incident. Now Schumacher could have crashed on Hill on purpose, but of course this would be impossible to prove by the stewards as it was Schumacher's corner to take. Looking at this objectively, the stewards could have only decided this to be a racing incident and they did so. Personally I think they made the right call, everything else is merely speculation.
It’s behaviour like this why Schumacher won t be regarded as the greatest. That title goes to Lewis, a fair racer and a team player.
Erm.. Silverstone 2021. The worst deliberate and most dangerous collision ever bar none. Lewis should've got at least a two or three race ban for that one. Besides, Lewis is not even at top three all drivers all times out of GB.
NO Michael, NO NO Michael, that was so not right!!
Those were beautiful cars, on a superb track.
Schumacher despite his extraordinary talent has never been a clean driver.
Agreed, he just had to get that little, stupid advantage
'no michael, that was so not right!'
from 2021 final to 1994 final :)
Adelaide 1994 - Schumacher`s crash with Williams (Hill) - Hill retires, Silverstone 1995 - Schumacher`s crash with Williams (Hill) - Hill retires, Jerez 1997 - Schumacher`s crash with Williams (Villeneuve) - you won`t guess... Hill retires xD
Classic Schumacher...
It’s coming home 🤣🤣🤣. 2018 🇭🇷 2:1
Classic hill dive bombing Schumacher.
4 races bans yet Michael was still a contender no wonder Damon was fired in 1997.
Classic Hamilton
July 2021
The worst champion of all time.
Firstly, the Benetton was an illegal car. Even the FIA knew it but decided to do nothing about it. Secondly, Schumacher crashed against Hill on purpose.
Yes, you are totally right as he was able to take place in all races
I hate to break it too you but pretty much EVERY dominating F1 car in history has questionable parts on it....
Preparing myself for Abu Dhabi 😂
I'll say it's 55% Hill and 45% damon fault. At the apex, when Schumacher started to turn, Hill's car was behind him, and Hill had no right to attack.
Very hard not to be cynical about this in the light of what happened at Jerez 97. It's why I've never been able to hold Schumacher in the same esteem as Senna, Prost and Clarke.
The argument against that from Schumacher fans is usually highlighting that Senna did the same at Suzuka 1990. It's true he did but that was a statement against being screwed by Balestre and the FIA and not for the first time either. That doesn't make it right but it does make it significantly less cynical than this and Jerez 97.
you havent seen Senna have you? while im also a schumacher fan i used to be a greater mansell fan therefore i usually ruled against senna but in a retrospective i regard senna as the greatest and my favorite driver ever.
well let me tell you that also prost and senna played with dirty tricks.
so let me quote the very senna ''its not to come 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th, I race to win as long as I feel its possible''
if you understand that , you understand racing and you understand what schumacher did.
Let me quote you another Senna statement which clarifies the difference between Suzuka 89/90, Adelaide 94 and Jerez 97 - "some people can become champion in a chicane, now I too have become champion in a corner". So without using Senna's quotes to justify MS's actions in 94/97 can you pls tell us what was the reason he threw his car at DH and JV other then knowing full well that he lost the championship?
Here is the unbelievable factor that no MS seems to grasp, both Prost and Senna did NOT need to do what they did in order to win the 89/90 titles. Firstly, all Prost had to do in 89 was to finish 2nd and he would have won the title fair and square. Likewise, all Senna had to do in 1990 was to even not battle with AP and let him win the race, and there he would have been champion. Can you smell the different between these 4 events? Trying to put them all in the same pot shows a clear lack of basic understanding of F1 history - this is all on record.
So are we supposed to believe that MS's actions in 94/97 was pure racer instinct or cowardice behaviour and inability to beat his opponent fair and square???? How can people place MS as the greatest ever when the title really came to a head to head fight he balked 4-5 times. In other words he won only 1 in 5 attempts - 2000. The other 4 he lost fair and square - 94/97/98/03. Yes 2003 he won the title but did he beat KR in that race?
In contrast Senna beat his opponents 3/4 times on the decisive race - 88/89/91. If he wasn't so preoccupied with teaching those 2 French bastards a lesson he would have done the same in 1990. Here is a little reading material from those inside the business that know far more then me and you that corroborates what I have just said - www.grandprix.com/ft/ftdt046.html.
I also think that MS watched the battles between Senna and Prost. He saw them cheat one another and misunterstood the moral of the story. So he thought he could do everything, fair or not, in order to win, because so they did before him.
There is a big difference though. Prost and Senna did their tricks once. They both felt being tricked by the other, and having the right to take what they felt belonged to them. They did what they did in exceptional circumstances. More, Senna showed no joy for the title he stole to Prost (and Ferrari), he was quite sad on that day because he knew what he did.
MS made tricking a rule on his winning history. He did it first with Hill (who didn't make anything to deserve it) and then with Villeneuve (the same as Hill). He was happy the first time (because he succeded in that) and sad the second one (because he was disqualified).
I say this just to make some point very clear. Not to talk bad of MS now, this would be unfair.
To win without honour isn't winning at all.
97 wasnt his fault, villeneuve divebombed him and schumacher had nowhere to go... If he hadnt used schumacher as a cushion they wouldve both ended up in the sand. And schumacher was a much better person off track than villeneuve was...
In our house we never really forgave Michael for that, as goog as he was he took Damon's championship away in 94...
+edward harris Schumacher dominated 1994. Only reason that Hill was still in it was because Schumacher got DQ'd twice and suspended 2 races. That being said, this was probably on purpose so they should have considered stripping Schumacher from the championship like in 1997.
+Stephan Altena If the FIA didn't strip Ayrton Senna for his admitted deliberate taking out of Alain Prost at Suzuka with the rest of the field of 24 cars behind them doing probably close to 180 mph by the time they came into contact. Why should they give Michael the F1 equivalent of capital punishment?
Mr18000rpm F1 and the FIA were totally different back in 1990 as it was run (or rather ruled) by Jean-Marie Balestre and despite the fact that Balestre often favored (fellow Frenchman) Prost, he knew that the whole world would look at it as him giving the title to his fellow Frenchman (I'll try and find the book I read this in, and send you the direct quote) 1997 was so different we all watched the in car footage and saw Michael turn right in to the Williams, so the FIA had no choice but to act. I always thought it was a strange punishment given that all it means is Schmacher doesn't appear in the final standings of the 97 World Championship, I mean when you think about it we all know what happened during the 97 season!!
best joke ever.
Thats was dirtiest move ever.
Driving into somebody at the end of the straight.
@@StephanAltena his dq`s = his problems
I know that Schumacher acted dishonestly and that he should have been disqualified. However, you must remember that The Authorities of Formula 1 found fault with Schumacher on trifles. They deprived him of points for a fair victory in Belgium, disqualified him for two races because he passed Hill on the warm-up lap, and all this in order to attract spectators to the fight for the championship title. In addition, Hill could just wait, and attack Schumacher in the next straight. Schumacher's car was damaged, so why did Hill rush to the attack? (I apologize for my English)
I used to have a lot of respect of Schmacher until I saw this. He took out Damon Hill intentionally to save his world championship.
True same with prost
Schumi was out of order for that one. He screwed up, didn't actually damage his car, but knew Hill was going to overtake him.
I honestly think that moment changed the outcome of Damon's career. Had he won, he would have gone on to win at least 2 or 3 more WDC's.
Have to correct you on one thing, he did damage his car, you can even see it. Look at his left rear tire at around 0:21. It's not pointing forward anymore, has a slight tick to the left.
If Hill would have been patient enough to wait another corner the title would have been his
weidmann44 I think that might be a consequence of the suspension movement while he was off road.
I can't really see anything that suggests the rear tyre or suspension was damaged and it probably shouldn't have been given the angle he hits the wall. Surely the front suspension took the brunt of the impact.
Exactly, would've been interesting to get an answer from schumacher on this: was the front suspension damaged before crashing with hill? His impact with the wall was at very low speed, can't be sure looking at it, would have needed to see what would've happened in a straight, cause in such a slow speed corner you don't notice it, but if you got issues with wheels and such you would go at 150 vs 300 kmh in a straight even at the time.
No, Hill was too much of a plonker and it would have been an injustice if Hill won the WC after being dominated all you despite having a better car.
Ramy harb Chill man. Hill won only 2 races when Schuey was neither banned or disqualified. Hill won 1 of those 2 only in Spain because Michael was stuck in 5th gear for most of the race and still finished 2nd. Let us not forget some of those bans were only for the plank being just 2mm thin after the famous spin on the ripple strip in Spa when he was way ahead and intimidating Hill on the parade lap. It was a year of new regulations and other teams such as Mclaren and Ferrari had cheat issues which I think many were misinterpretations of new rules. Schuey was just as dominant in 95 without cheat issues and stupid mistakes by Hill crashing into Michael i.e, British GP. At the end of the 95 season, Berger and Alessi drove the Beneton and both said it was 'undriveable'. Schuey responded by saying that if they drove it at the start of the season, they would have spun it in pit lane. Coulthard recently said that he was never in the same league as Michael and Hill was the same. In 96, while Schuey was driving around in a piece of junk, Hill was only able to win a title virtually by default. Here is the link to the fairly recent Coulthard interview. www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/michael-schumacher/10543292/I-only-hope-Michael-Schumacher-pulls-through-so-that-he-can-see-all-the-nice-things-people-are-saying-about-him.htm
Amazes me so many years later, that Williams didn't get on the radio to Damon screaming "MICHAEL'S OFF, MICHAEL'S OFF, DON'T PASS HIM YET !! CAR DAMAGED !!".
Schumi definitely had him off that day ...
Lewis and Max rn: 👀👀
Conclusion:
Hamilton: 7 WDC ( GOAT )
Schumacher: 6 WDC
Hill: 2 WDC
you think hamilton is the goat?
@@TriNguyen-ft2nl i think it's pretty silly
How on earth did Schumacher go unpunished here?
Wasnt his fault
Oh maybe because he was the car in front, and can defend how he pleases.
If Hill was so great, what was he doing behind?
@@markmark5269 you can't defend how you please... aka you can't just run into the other person on purpose.
@@den_525 Hill ran into him, are you blind?
@@markmark5269 ...Congratulations for the dumbest comment on the thread !
And people still say he’s one of the greatest drivers more like the greatest cheat in F1 history, even if Hamilton doesn’t win another title he’s still won more titles honestly than this man. I don’t like having a go at a driver especially with what has happened to him but him Senna and Prost were some of the dirtiest drivers going, someone wondered why he didn’t get banned for that race because he was F1’s golden boy and the FIA love child.
I hate Schumacher. Hi is such an a**hole just like his son.
Dean Hall SMV Producer io ho tifato sempre Senna e ricordo ayrton ci fece impazzire e lo spazzò via a Donningthon 93,Schumacher ha fatto il pieno contro Barrichello montoya coulthard e suo fratello ralf...con Senna morto...a parte hakkinen zero avversari e compagni di squadra ridicoli....Lewis un fulmine da rookie accanto a Alonso che scappa via subito e mondiale vinto anno dopo con McLaren inferiore alla Ferrari con autentici capolavori come Silverstone Monaco e a spa dove vinse e gli tolsero la meravigliosa vittoria x darla a Massa....in McLaren inferiore 21 gp vinti un mondiale buttato da rookie e uno vinto,dopo lui la McLaren sparita x sempre. Nel 2012 se McLaren era più affidabile avrebbe vinto il mondiale....2014-15- vinto contro un compagno vero e libero e forte come rosberg ....2016 perso x ritiro Sepang con i numeri tutti x lewis,pole e gp.2017-2018 distrutto vettel su una Ferrari stra competitiva,poi ora a 35 anni suonati da spettacolo con pole e gp meravigliosi....gp Ungheria là pole fu da alieno come quella di ieri.....ma questi che vuoi che ne sappiano.... Hamilton il king assieme a senna
Dean Hall non dire cretinate Senna prost e Hamilton nettamente superiori a Schumacher in tutto,specialmente Hamilton e Senna
@@simoforever75 had to translate that but it's facts
Hi Dean ... List the cheats please, and then I'll list Hamilton's cheats for you.
Lots of people call him a cheat, but they come up short when asked to prove it.
However, I have the FIA factual cheat on Hamilton, so what you got?
Pretty sure Max is watching this in 4K and super slow motion every day before Abu Dhabi . :)
Why shouldn't he? No one is holding this against Schumacher. So why should anyone hold it against Max? On the other hand I still think Hill was robbed and should have been given the title. Obviously the same should happen if Max does a similar thing. Even though I'm Dutch and heavily biased towards Max.
Maybe Hamilton watched this before Silverstone, yeah?
Despite of 25 yers of crying comments i still see no cheat here. Hill tries to overtake in the tight corner (which was not bulit for overtaking), Schumacher closes door, they collide and Hill punts Schumacher to the wall. Thats all. It was only coincidence that Hill´s car suspension was bent during accident...
Schumacher made it look kind of plausible at the time but he absolutely crashed into Hill on purpose. The end.
But the argument he gave after the race was completely bs and shoulve ban him from racing
Was this Michael's first? First title I mean, not the first time he cheated.
LOL
+KoivuTheHab you still talking shit on every comment fanboy bitch
@@leejamiemellor plonker
Briatore teached to Schumacher how to win in an unfair mode.
Nope, it is Michael character exclusively.
Funny, Damon winning the championship would have been very fair of course
@@Rahulsinghxxxx Yes it would have.
When did crashing into someone on purpose become acceptable ?
@@B..P.. Damon did the the same thing to Michael previously no?
Coming to @ Max and Ham for Abu Dhabi
Everybody forgets Schumacher was banned for 3 races in 1994. Possible 30 points lost. Hill in reality should have been nowhere near Schumacher in the points but when you get banned for 3 races for a minor incident it lets others catch you. Still Schumacher won because he's a fighter and a winner.
These were his problems
Who's here thinking this could happen Max vs Lewis at Abu Dhabi...
I strongly suspect it will be. Although I'm hoping it's the 1997 outcome..
It did.
In the context of the rules at the time, Schumacher turning into the corner on the racing line was considered a clean move! To understand the precedents by which the Hill/Schumacher collision was judged, you have to look no further than the Prost/Senna incident at Suzuka 1989, where Alain Prost aggressively defended the racing line in very much the same manner.
In simple terms, the driver ahead had the right to take the racing line and in contrast to today, there really was 0 obligation for drivers to leave each other space in a contested situation. Other incidents worth comparing this to is the Senna/Schumacher collision at Kyalami in 1993 or even the 1990 Berger/Mansell incident at Imola.
Now many people have claimed that the Schumacher's Benetton B194 was damaged to the point where a continuation of the race would have been impossible. Not only does this erroneously assume that Schumacher had enough time or frankly enough information to make this kind of assessment, it also ironically begs the question of why Hill didn't pull over right away when he much more clearly could see that his car was damaged.
It was a robbery then, and it is a robbery now.
In 6 days max will do the same
Schumacher has track position, regardless of how slow he is going -- there is no gap there and it is a slow corner anyway. Should have waited for the next corner as Schumachers exit was compromised-but Damon was desperate and thought he would never get another chance to win the world championship. Correct decision. (I'm from the U.K as well)
He had track position but he didn't have the line into the corner. He was wide and very slow. If Hill wasn't there he'd probably have hit the wall.
Chris Dobson you spin, its your fault. dont ruin other peoples races but rejoining like an idiot
Chris Dobson you sir are a really stupid (or blind) person!
Chris Dobson that is very much what Senna would say.
I agree, Hill should have waited for a better opportunity. Schumi did shut the door on him as it is his right to do as the leading car. Aggressive but not illegal. Hill should have been champion but he wasn't smart or lucky enough that year.
This is exactly why Michael won't be the GOAT of F1.
Just imagine what it would be like if Social Media existed back then ...
it just just a race crash..had hill been PATIENT, he would have overtaken him in the next corner, safely..this was a stupid maneuver by hill..that being said, ithink michael deserved t he 94 championship more than anyone else..having been stripped off two wins and sit out 2 races, they tried everything in their power to hand Hill the title on a silver platter..Michael absolutely destroyed hill in 95 when they had the same engines.
These days I have much more respect for Hill. He was constantly behind Shuey, putting pressure on him all the time and forcing him to make that mistake. Hill was very underrated and in better form in the end of 94 season then Shuey, and that is not easy. A true champion.
This is how I play codemasters F1
Re: Senna accusation of "traction control"
Let me educate you with some facts, that, like every other report about this subject, are simply ignored ..
There are literally hundreds of F1 Journalists, many of them seasoned veterans.
At pre-season release, Ferrari bought out their 1994 car and started to lap Fiorano test track A dozen Journos immediately, that's IMMEDIATELY, recognized that the car had traction control embarrassing the hell out of Ferrari, who basically said "oops".
My point is clear, those seasoned Journos who go to every race weekend, and many test sessions, and who know what a F1 cars sounds like, IMMEDIATELY recognised the sound of traction control.
Then how the fuck did those same Journos never notice that the Bennetton had traction control in 1994 ....
Now further, lets mention all those engineers for all the other teams trackside, as well as the pitcrews, they all not only know what traction control sounds like, some of them even design and built the systems, .
BUT NOT ONE SINGLE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE SOUND OF TRACTION CONTROL, ever mentioned the Bennetton having traction control.
... except for one pissed off driver who's ego couldn't tolerate being beaten and had to find reason in the car, not the driver who was beating him. Senna. ... and all the Fanboys immediately and blindly believed him, without evidence or substance (that's scary in itself) and have been accusing Schumacher for cheating since that day.
What a fucking load of crock, stemming from pissed off British who can't accept that Hill was shit. Prost walked all over his times, as did Senna, then to rub it in, Mansell came out of retirement and thrashed Hill in 1994 qualifying for pole for just those 2 races he ran. A fat, unfit Mansell that is, sill blew the doors off Hill.
Hill won 6 races, 4 that were the races Schumacher wasn't in or removed from the result (a worn plank after his spin at Spa riding the plank along the kerb that caused the plank rule to be changed, which of course is never mentioned, or that he was miles in the lead at the time), Hill won at Silverstone where Williams developed their cars, but oh yeah, lost by 1 point after his failed dive when Schumacher was in front, and it was his turn to command - get a fucking life.
Now you want to discuss Launch Control? Why is the British GP of 1994 start never mentioned? Hill drove away from the pack without wheelspin (Schumacher had smoke pouring off his tyres) and had a 100 meter lead in 300 meters - tell me based on all the cheat theories offered here why that wasn't launch control. The evidence used for accusing Benneton, is actually even worse for Williams here ... the best start in F1 history ...
Listen to what Murray walker says:
ua-cam.com/video/NLJrP0NEJZs/v-deo.html
Go watch the start of the French GP. On the warmup start, Schumacher does a massive burnout, and then starts on his freshly laid rubber just like the drag racers do, no surprise he got a great start, and why they don't all do it every race is confusing to me. Like drag racers don't know what they are doing for the best starts?
2.43 minutes, Schumacher does one of the biggest burnouts I have ever seen in F1 for his warm up start ...
ua-cam.com/video/Up3R1y-DdXc/v-deo.html
See what i am doing here? I'm providing factual evidence of events, not trumped up bullshit overtones without substance.
At the end of the day, the premise is that Schumacher had traction control because Senna said so, for fucks sake. Trumped up bullshit from pissed off British who like to change F1 history to suit themselves.
^this guy knows his shit. Do you have a blog or smth mate? Could read you for hours.🤪
Finally someone who actually knows what he is talking about. Thank you.
I have one observation to make re your rant, just for a very short time, place
YOURSELF in Damon Hills car watching ms completely ballsing it up........ Now comment you number crunching nerd,
Racing isn't just about numbers, you're forgetting the Passion involved in the sport and by doing so you exclude what we all are and that is very very human and so, fallible,
enjoy your abacus
We humans will include our hearts in our passions
You Max Headroom Moron
Damon Hill
True Gentleman of the sport
I spoke with him in Melbourne
Peace Out
@@russellwiley2484 What? LOL, less drugs Mate.
Damon Hill was a slow driver, he openly admits that himself before you get all excited, he puts it down to his motorcycle racing making him turn in smoothly rather than rotating the car like Formula drivers learn from Karting days, those are HIS WORDS. Senna was much faster, Mansell comes into the team for 2 races n 1994 after 2 years out of the sport, and puts in on pole position both times in front of Hill.
But I applaud him for achieving what he did, he knew his limits, and drove accordingly, it worked out well for him, and I think his '96 WDC was deserved. Not one of the great Championships, but deserved.
I have no idea what you are talking about otherwise, Schumacher was in front, he had the choice of line because he was in front, and he did not veer from the racing line.
Schumacher was in front, and Hill was behind, I can write that in Chinese if you don't understand English: 'Shumacher shi qian mian, he Hill shi hou mian', does that help?
It's hysterical that every other similar incident in F1 history, is the guy's behind fault, even Albons taking out Magnusson at Silverstone two weekends ago.
@@deivison.72 Sorry Mate, I can only read English and Chinese Pinyin, I have no idea what language you are writing in.
The dirtiest driver ever
But also the best
@@amroge8703 senna is the best
@@amroge8703 wrong
@@amroge8703 also almost all the teammates of Schumacher didn't raced him so..🤷🏽♂️ looks the same for me
@@noobednatherium4082, and I’m wrong for my opinion?
Ah yes, the great michael schumacher, the most fair 7 time wdc driver ;)
Hill took Schumacher out two times 95 as well. Schumacher was well within his right to be angry
Who came here after the Verstappen / Hamilton incident at Monza?
This, Jerez 1997 and Monaco Qualifying 2006 arte the main reasons that Schumacher won't be considered the greatest driver despite his great talent, worst example of sportmanship in history
No doubt
I would still consider him the greatest driver in terms of success. No one has beat his 7 world championships so far.
+VibhavN true but you mean 6 ,1994 shouldn't count (in my opinion it doesn't) and I admire Michael but this was unacceptable that he always tried to take out his title contenders
PHX Master Why doesnt it count?
+VibhavN I said it shouldn't and that I don't count it because he clearly hit Damon just to win the championship (which he took the cowards way of taking out his rival title contender)