I was 26 at the time and now I'm 40, Schumi has been off the radar since 2013. Time flies my friends. Let's do a Schumi leap in honour of him! Good luck to us all! The engine sounds are the heartbeat of F1.
See I'm not so sure. We always see the past with rose tinted glasses, but if you think back this was actually quite a boring era of F1. Do miss the v12s though, I'll give you that.
How do you three suggest he follow through there with piss all downforce in alonso’s wake? He was basically having to try taking a wet line through there at one point. Please enlighten. If the three of you need to take a zoom meeting to figure out your answer go right ahead. Ejits
Uma das maiores disputas da história das F1 moderna. Um jovem campeão mundial em um teste de fogo e que mostrou astúcia, técnica, garra e força mental para suportar a incrível pressão de um Heptacampeão mundial que não precisava provar mais nada à ninguém. Digna dos momentos memoráveis nos anais da categoria.
Era show , desde que vi esse Alonso correr pela primeira vez comecei a torcer pra ele como eu torcia para Senna ! Hj são meus pilotos que eu admiro SENNA E ALONSO
A verdade é que Shumacher na pressão parecia mansell contra Ayrton no GP de Mônaco, Shumacher vinha tão ligeiro que não sabia se freiava ou acelerava na curva ! Foi um espetáculo ... E Alonso sempre seguro no 1° lugar
O que o Schumi freiava... O que o Alonso fazia aquela curva em "U" de pé embaixo E o que esse motor renault cantava alto em 2006... Muito bom reviver isso aí
Alonso peak was probably on 2012 but its hard to measure because that man does amazing feats on any season even on the worst cars possible. Simply the best from the last 20 years.
Engine started to by shitty after drop from V10. That was the best sounding and performing engine of the best F1 Era!!. Ferrari and Renault had the best sound. Check this out. ua-cam.com/video/hxdR9Dw_uus/v-deo.html
Mamita querida muchachos... Dos fuera de serie. Que cruel es la vida con Shumi. Me duele el corazón a mis 72 años. Soy un fans de autos, motos, bicis de ruta. A cuantos grandes recuedo siempre con un nudo en la garganta. Pero tambien fascinado por todas sus formidables hazañas a riesgo eterno por todo, o por nada. No cualquiera integra el Regimiento de los Hijos del Viento. Gloria sin par para todos uds ídolos queridos...❤
The 2000s was Schumi's decade but I gotta say that Renault in those times was bringing a lot of heat to Ferrari, very fierce and stable cars, never a dull moment, always at the forefront of competition. Alonso took the best of those blue and yellow babes back in the day.
I remember Renault had done something to their launch control, as they'd always gain at launch. Ferrari was the faster car I think or maybe it was Schumacher's legendary skills, maybe both.
@@giannismentz3570 Renault just had a weight balance that allowed the car to grip up very well off the line. And while Ferrari seemed to produce the better overall results, Renault honestly didn't have a very strong teammate for Alonso. In 2005 Renault was definitely quicker, 2006 was questionable.
@@giannismentz3570 it is kind of dynamic suspension. Dynamic suspensions were banned way before but because of "Kind of Part" it was allowed in rules, so it is banned after later.
Not so true... Renaults is not good that much...having 6 gear..Ferrari had 8 gear...renault got weakest engine... Alonso's carzy driving style like max DOING now like his mentor dive in the corner like a mad man...that's makes the difference a lot he is always 1 or 1.5 sec Faster than fisi which is unreal... Alonso's is a born racers... When he was young his family can't afford wet tyre thereby he had to rac in wet with slicks.. This tallents comes from childhood... One interview alonso said he win many kart race in wet conditions with slicks snowing his true talents
I think it's not Fernando's masterpiece but Michael's line, he went to much inside and had to back off, it looked like Alonso would ride a rocket but in fact it was Michael backing off.
@@theJuJuHounds Michael took a different racing line, a slower one, to avoid the dirty air left my Alonso. If he had taken Alonso's line, he would have lost a lot more time
I intented to mean that in those years, even if Schumacher had a very efficient Ferrari and being the best pilot ever (according to wins and championships) and Kimi Raikkonen, had nightmares with a young Fernando Alonso and his slight inferior, less competitive car R25 and R26. Times in which you could enjoy battles like the one in the video.
Jerónimo Rodríguez in what universe R25 and R26 were "inferior" to any other car? The R25 had a clear edge on the MP4/20 as a championship contender due to reliability. The R26 and the 2006 Ferrari were very even over the course of the full season, the Renault starting much better and the Ferrari ending the season stronger.
Am I the only one...or has anyone else noticed That the 3 Fastest Pilots ever on the Apex in F1 were M.Schumacher - Ayrton Senna - Mika Hakkinen....!!!
No. That was just like his previous laps. The difference was Alonso's defensive line at the last corner. He closed the inside line just in case Schumacher dives down there at the last second. While doing that he had understeer. And when he opened the throttle to the line he had oversteer. So it was a messy last corner from Alonso just for closing the inside line at the last seconds of the GP.
@@28erny I agree Alonso was something different. But don't forget Schumi was also pretty old at the time. And tired out from so many years of competitiveness and wins and losses
@@28erny Well man, all interesting and Alonso was amazing, but he couldn't win in Ferrari where he should've, and also for his mistakes. In team sports, and ESPECIALLY F1, the ability to create good relationships with the team is fundamental. As to perform under pressure. Fernando did mistakes in Suzuka with Ferrari, after that incident in Spa (that wasn't his fault), that costed him the championship (25 points). As in the end of that year he played a very poor race while Vettel came back from falling in the end of the pack after a spin at the fist turn of the race. Fernando was special, but not THAT special. He lacked in focus when mattered most, in his later years, as in his duel with Hamilton in McLaren. And those are just other facts, not debatable at all, as yours. He had unparalleled talent, and probably so much that he couldn't relate to normal or mediocre human beings. Briatore proved to be the best team leader for Alonso as he could be the means between Alonso and the team. When he lost Briatore, he could never get in touch with the team again, and he found himself unable to win again. Is a coincidence that those stuff coincided with his departure with Briatore? I don't know, i just find his attitude was what drove him to be the best, from the skill standpoint, but the worse from the team relationship standpoint, and that in F1 counts, for strategies to be effective, and for the car development. Schumi was the best not because he was the fastest, but because he was not the best in anything but just amazing in everything. What Fernando wasn't. And you can argue, but there's a reason why Fernando didn't win that much. And i've asked myself too, as, by a Ferrari tifoso, i really loved Fernando and his drive style. And respected a lot him for what he did when won with Benetton Renault. But for that same reason i asked myself why then he didn't win as much as others. And that was the conclusion i could end up with. Because for which other reasons. Is known that many hated Alonso for his attitude, mostly probably in the McLaren, if you remember what happened in the team
Alonso is probably the best F1 driver in modern times. Although his number of championship's doesn't reflect that, he spent a lot of time in cars that weren't competitive. When in a competitive car he was unbeatable. He also proved he can drive and win in other motorsports and not just F1.
@@Nate-lw2gu True. But it's boring and much easier. They gotta dump DRS and get the cars racing closer. They've been trying to do this but never find a solution. Racing now is so artificial compared to before.
@@pauloaz496 And now we got another amazing Checo-Alonso fight but the point stand, drs ruined the sport. DRS make it easier for the dominant car to pass slower ones hence why is very common to see mercedes or redbull start on the bottom and end in podium or winning, and since now we have weak engines and batteries the cars arent running all laps 100% like schumi era. DRS, kers, hybrid engines were a mistake.
Fernando Alonso ... uno de los mejores pilotos ABSOLUTOS ... como puede ver aquí, Schumi está luchando MUY excelentes habilidades de conducción de ambos ... locura
Yes these 3 turns made the difference. Schumacher understood his mistake and how to pass it faster by gearing down before the left turn. But he realised it 2 laps from the finish and it wasnt enough.
Wao la F1 está a otro nivel tomar esas curvas a esa velocidad, como Schumacher baja un cambio para no perder fuerza, por muy poco no se salen de la pista; estos si son pilotos de verdad 👏👏👏
That battle with 9 laps to go was incredible. Schumacher takes a wider slower entry into the one corner and gains way more exit speed on Alonso only to have him absolutely slam the door shut on him 2 turns later.
Just imagine if Schumi was driving with fastest cars then as Hamilton now. He would have at least 10 titles. It is the brilliance of knowing how to beat faster cars. That makes Schumi the best of all time.
Alonso v Hamilton in that race just shows how much better a driver he is, despite the car. Hamilton couldn't hold off max in a better car for 2 laps, despite a similar difference in pace.
That renualt v10 was the engine that put out the most torque of anything on the grid that year. It had a 0 - 125 time faster than any other car in competition. Thats why he's so fast out of the corners
@@natebrubaker3269 just to make sure you understand it. .. There are two cars. The red One is faster that the other. There are two drivers. The Spanish One is faster than the other. So far. Uncomparable. You said that the reason that the faster driver is taking the corners with that speed is because the car... Wow. His teammate was a very good driver... Schumacher was good too.and with a better car and can't take any corner like Alonso does. No matter the car they drive. Alonso is tones times faster than Schumacher, so far. That's the reason the blue car is taking the corners that way. 🍩
Esta carrera.. esté circuito..me impresionó ala velocidad que éstos Dos.. Alonso y el Káiser corrían a fondo en muchas curvas.. que bueno el sonido..el agarre.. una maravilla tecnología y humana.. gracias..❤🎉
Looking at this now, I can consider myself lucky enough to have seen all these great battles and some live gp. Best time ever. Forza Ferrari e forza Schumi! ❤️🇮🇹
The sound/scream of a V 10 is just incredible!!! You also see the strength and weaknesses for both Cars on different parts of the track. Just beautiful.
@@Foxsa1.8 kkkkkkk vc não perdeu muito não mano, anos 2000 era só Schumacher, apesar que muitas vezes ele era desbancado, hj em dia não sei, só Hamilton, blz ele é bom, mas pqp, parece que o regulamento só favorece ele
En revoyant ces images qui nous ont fait rêver, j'espère maintenant de tout coeur qu'il retrouve une bonne santé et que nous puissions un jour le revoir 🏎️
Ohhhh música celestial ¡¡¡ Cuando de verdad eran coches de F1. Los comentarios impresionantes, como se echa de menos esos motores ¡¡¡¡ Lo mejor haber podido disfrutar de estos momentos de la F1 , ahí quedará en nuestros recuerdos, en nuestras retinas están y estarán hasta que el tiempo nos deje disfrutar de lo vivido... ¡¡¡¡
2021 ..schumacher age 52 .age gap...and alonso in F1 ..and today a young Ocon challenging and ahead of a 2-time champion in points. tables turn.. The world is like a wheel. Sometimes you're on top, sometimes at the bottom.
I think it has to do with the loss of grip when driving behind another car in a fast corner. Could be the tires or gear ratios like another commenter suggested, but I think it's more about losing the grip when driving too close behind another car in fast corners, so you back of slightly instead of staying too close and then going too wide. F1 at that time was notorious for making it super difficult for drivers to make overtaking attempts. That's why overtakes from the past are more valued. Driver had to show real skill to find a way to stay close to the car in front and perform an overtake.
F1 owes Turkey a GP. Hell of a track. Stood up and resurfaced when asked to by the FIA on short notice with their own money. It’s not like they’re in Western Europe with multiple categories renting the track each weekend. Give something back to the fans of Istanbul
The best thing is,this was the time when renault had an average car and ferrari was on his prime and still alonso smoked the shit out of that ferrari,this is what makes him a great driver,a good driver can drive any good car and win,but the great will win even with worst car
Na minha opinião, Alonso está no mesmo nível dos maiores em termos de pilotagem, mesmo tendo apenas dois títulos. Disputou títulos com Michael, Lewis e Vettel. Não ganhou mais, por causa do seu temperamento, escolhas e uns carros inferiores. Mas como piloto, um mestre.
@@bZLxcz dont talk nonsense... senna got beaten by prost in same car TWICE! Senna is overrated because he died. Also in his last year,he was losing to Hill in same car. Schumi is ahead of Senna. Only guy who comes close to Schumi is Alonso.
@@bZLxcz In the 19yrs that Schumacher raced for, he was achieving more than Ayrton Senna did in his 10yrs. Double Sennas achievements and he would fall short of Schumacher. Not to mention Senna was a mental mess just before he died, something Schumacher never was! It would have only gotten worse for him. Schumacher was coming at him, and Senna knew it. He can't be called the best, he did not get the chance to retire and therefore no-one knows how good he may have become, or not! Retirement was not to far away for him anyway. Doubtful that he could have achieved what Schumacher did. Senna was always looking for the best car, not Schumacher, he would pick the worst teams and through sheer dedication bring them on to the top. Another thing Senna did not do! Senna was good, but not the best, 19yrs of Schumacher proves that!
Not only that. Michelins were better in the first few races but from late June onwards Bridgestone was hands down the better rubber. Also most cars had the mass damper but Renault's was very efficient. The FIA banned them in-season so Schumi could retire with an 8th but he was unlucky with engine failure at the end.
@@stepladder3257 how tf? You a fanboy or what. Alonso got penalized 5 places at Monza for blocking Massa when he was over 100 meters ahead. They banned the mass damper mid season because Renault was winning too much. A number of strange things happened. How tf did they screw Schumi the year before? Didn't Ferrari screw themselves for nor developing a good car and Bridgestone failing with those tyres? Why did FIA remove the 2005 rules after only 1 year? To help somebody maybe? Hmmm
The traction from the Renault from 2003 to 2006 was legendary. It always took off like a rocket from the start and always made more powerful cars in slow corners look pedestrian
Wdc is not the things you can judge on him...he is arguably the best of the planet history of f1 .....may be jim clerk only one better than alonso but not sure of it...
Crashgate also is arguably the most controversial scandal ever in the history of Formula 1. Crashgate took place in Singapore in 2008 and at face value, the race was just another Fernando Alonso win however under the surface was a game of lies and cheating.Alonsos partner Nelson junior intentionally crashing ..
The fact that Alonso is still achieving podiums fascinates me.
any driver in a fast car can achieve podiums. why does it fascinate you?
@@wolfieodimm9151 true story....there a no "good" drivers in that fake F1 bullshit only better cars....
@@wolfieodimm9151 try that yourself then
@@wolfieodimm9151 imagine being as stupid as you
@@MariaJosef-yl8hy
Alonso won at Daytona, Sebring, 24h Le Mans, and Monaco and 2 titles, it's not only the car.
I was 26 at the time and now I'm 40, Schumi has been off the radar since 2013. Time flies my friends. Let's do a Schumi leap in honour of him! Good luck to us all! The engine sounds are the heartbeat of F1.
@nata zeze you cared enough to write a reply zoomer
I banged my knee leaping, will be following up for compo 😂🤓
@nata zeze what a douch you are
I’m 41 now, I really miss this racing!!!!
I was 16
God why can't F1 be like this anymore. WOW. The sound, the racing, The class, The respect.
Because the current generation is a bunch of snowflakes.
You should've seen Leclerc vs Verstappen 2022 Jeddah. Way better fight than this.
See I'm not so sure. We always see the past with rose tinted glasses, but if you think back this was actually quite a boring era of F1. Do miss the v12s though, I'll give you that.
Shummi showed no respect dirty driver
Totally agree mate🤙🏼
It's nearly 20 years late, and Alsono is still getting podiums. That is insane, and a freak athlete
Schumacher and Alonso always had fantastic battles! Great times yelling and jumping in front of the tv with these two race masters! 😄
And NEVER crashed each other... Pure talent of both.
Their battles were always classy, idk how to explain it, like you knew it was going to be respectful when these 2 were battling.
Fact is !!!!!!! as Schumacher die too die F1!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I miss that F1.
Alonso and Schumacher both receive a 5 second penalty for causing "Excessive Enjoyment" to the fans
true. seeing their dogfight is so much entertained me. both of them are very great Legends
No no
" *unnesecary* joyment to the fan"
Now thats sounded more kinda like FIA
Alonso’s line/ speed through that long sweeping left is amazing
Shumi was lost there
It was amazing to see how much faster he was in that long left.
How do you three suggest he follow through there with piss all downforce in alonso’s wake? He was basically having to try taking a wet line through there at one point. Please enlighten. If the three of you need to take a zoom meeting to figure out your answer go right ahead. Ejits
@@EcknerMJRamos mass damper on the renault --- banned some races later...
Mass damper made a huge difference.
Uma das maiores disputas da história das F1 moderna. Um jovem campeão mundial em um teste de fogo e que mostrou astúcia, técnica, garra e força mental para suportar a incrível pressão de um Heptacampeão mundial que não precisava provar mais nada à ninguém. Digna dos momentos memoráveis nos anais da categoria.
Isso ai. Alonso na Renault era uma besta inigualável! Adorava ver ele e Schumacher disputando ferozmente. Definitivamente a ultima boa era da F1.
Era show , desde que vi esse Alonso correr pela primeira vez comecei a torcer pra ele como eu torcia para Senna !
Hj são meus pilotos que eu admiro SENNA E ALONSO
A verdade é que Shumacher na pressão parecia mansell contra Ayrton no GP de Mônaco, Shumacher vinha tão ligeiro que não sabia se freiava ou acelerava na curva ! Foi um espetáculo ... E Alonso sempre seguro no 1° lugar
@@vanucctejose7032 si tivesse mais uma volta ele passava ele tava diminuindo a distância ,dava para ver que a ferreira era mais forte na reta
@@vanucctejose7032 nessa corrida o massa que foi o 1° né?
Best ever drivers and best ever mashines. I was lucky to watch this on tv.
Yes . In the same finish line order
Yes man me too...alonso and sumi battle is even better than senna and prost...aloso and sumi are best Driver of all time in f1...
@@md.shaonprinceshuvo5412 Senna was the best.
@@OmegaFighter1 senna contra Schumacher perdió.
Yes but I've watched Donington 93 live 😜
O que o Schumi freiava...
O que o Alonso fazia aquela curva em "U" de pé embaixo
E o que esse motor renault cantava alto em 2006...
Muito bom reviver isso aí
2:41 aqui eu acho que ele vacilou, não sei porque entrou tão colado por dentro numa curva de raio longa assim
Amazing. Thoughts and prayers to Michael and his family.
One of the greatest F1 drivers ever, tormented by fucking doctors who won't let the man go in peace. I hope they rot in hell.
he’s alive still lol
@@uhthexam7674That's debatable.
What a life Alonso has lived....to be at his peak back in 06 and still doing it in 2023. Unbelievable.
Vielleicht sitzt Schumi mit in seinem Auto.. und sie plaudern, voller gegenseitigen Respekt über ihre,, unvergessenen Duelle 😢👍🕊️
Alonso peak was probably on 2012 but its hard to measure because that man does amazing feats on any season even on the worst cars possible.
Simply the best from the last 20 years.
Alonso is the Lebron James of F1
@@LtCommanderTato I agree. 2012 Alonso was magical
Am I in RedTube or what?? what a engine... what a drive... what a battle...
Robert Usieto its loudeeeeerrrrr than ur gf
Engine started to by shitty after drop from V10. That was the best sounding and performing engine of the best F1 Era!!. Ferrari and Renault had the best sound. Check this out. ua-cam.com/video/hxdR9Dw_uus/v-deo.html
There was no battle, it was Schumacher chasing Alonso and not being able to pass him
@@juaneer it was indeed a battle...
And this is why Ocon won his first race.
And last
@@gabe2968 gabe
@@gabe2968 Gabe
@@gabe2968 Gabe
Hard to swallow pill
Just an entirely different level. Two giants in F1 history. The quality of racing here is second to none.
V10s, Alonso, schumacher.... Nothing else needed.
2004 V10 last 2005 -2013 V8 but the Sound is bater than V6
@@dritki_4248 2005 was last of the V10 era, but the rest I couldn't agree more
You only mentioned 3 things and still you couldn't get them all right lmao
The 2006 cars uses v8 and used from 2006-2013
alonso vale verg.a
What a circuit, I love those flat out lefts. Probably the best track Tilke has designed.
They say they take 2,5g at least
Emmett Byrne malasya is also awesome
Wonder if F1 could ever go to the blisterburg (not sure if I remembered that name correctly)
The Only track designed by Tilke wich is no boring.
@@BugattlVeyron ? There alot
Mamita querida muchachos...
Dos fuera de serie.
Que cruel es la vida con Shumi.
Me duele el corazón a mis 72 años.
Soy un fans de autos, motos, bicis de ruta.
A cuantos grandes recuedo siempre con un nudo en la garganta.
Pero tambien fascinado por todas sus formidables hazañas a riesgo eterno por todo, o por nada.
No cualquiera integra el Regimiento de los Hijos del Viento.
Gloria sin par para todos uds ídolos queridos...❤
The 2000s was Schumi's decade but I gotta say that Renault in those times was bringing a lot of heat to Ferrari, very fierce and stable cars, never a dull moment, always at the forefront of competition. Alonso took the best of those blue and yellow babes back in the day.
I remember Renault had done something to their launch control, as they'd always gain at launch. Ferrari was the faster car I think or maybe it was Schumacher's legendary skills, maybe both.
@@giannismentz3570 Renault just had a weight balance that allowed the car to grip up very well off the line. And while Ferrari seemed to produce the better overall results, Renault honestly didn't have a very strong teammate for Alonso. In 2005 Renault was definitely quicker, 2006 was questionable.
@@bruhmoment2088 maybe you're right and it was the weight balance. Whatever it was, the car was flying in almost every launch.
@@giannismentz3570 it is kind of dynamic suspension. Dynamic suspensions were banned way before but because of "Kind of Part" it was allowed in rules, so it is banned after later.
Not so true... Renaults is not good that much...having 6 gear..Ferrari had 8 gear...renault got weakest engine... Alonso's carzy driving style like max DOING now like his mentor dive in the corner like a mad man...that's makes the difference a lot he is always 1 or 1.5 sec Faster than fisi which is unreal... Alonso's is a born racers... When he was young his family can't afford wet tyre thereby he had to rac in wet with slicks.. This tallents comes from childhood... One interview alonso said he win many kart race in wet conditions with slicks snowing his true talents
Alonso turn at 2:40 is an absoluty masterpiece
Not to take away from El Magic Alonso, but Michael had to backout due to the reduced drag over the corner
thats the normal racing line tho, its not that impressive
I think it's not Fernando's masterpiece but Michael's line, he went to much inside and had to back off, it looked like Alonso would ride a rocket but in fact it was Michael backing off.
@@theJuJuHounds Michael took a different racing line, a slower one, to avoid the dirty air left my Alonso. If he had taken Alonso's line, he would have lost a lot more time
And 1:25
Last years of F1 being really F1...
Jerónimo Rodríguez It is still F1 actually.
I intented to mean that in those years, even if Schumacher had a very efficient Ferrari and being the best pilot ever (according to wins and championships) and Kimi Raikkonen, had nightmares with a young Fernando Alonso and his slight inferior, less competitive car R25 and R26. Times in which you could enjoy battles like the one in the video.
Jerónimo Rodríguez in what universe R25 and R26 were "inferior" to any other car? The R25 had a clear edge on the MP4/20 as a championship contender due to reliability. The R26 and the 2006 Ferrari were very even over the course of the full season, the Renault starting much better and the Ferrari ending the season stronger.
Jerónimo Rodríguez why are you explaining to idiot
Am I the only one...or has anyone else noticed That the 3 Fastest Pilots ever on the Apex in F1 were
M.Schumacher - Ayrton Senna - Mika Hakkinen....!!!
2:37 the awareness from ALO who already sees the upcoming move from Michael is great.
amazing break! just in time to surprise Shumascher and stop him
2:35
The exit Schumacher gets out of the last corner of the last lap is unreal. If only he had done that on a prior lap.
No. That was just like his previous laps. The difference was Alonso's defensive line at the last corner. He closed the inside line just in case Schumacher dives down there at the last second.
While doing that he had understeer. And when he opened the throttle to the line he had oversteer. So it was a messy last corner from Alonso just for closing the inside line at the last seconds of the GP.
I just had another look and I see what you mean.
@@berkhanogulcanakcay7336 totally!
No. Alonso got loose.
Fact is !!!!!!! as Schumacher die too die F1!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2020 during the eternal pandemic still rewatching these onboards.
There never was one.
I miss Istanbul Park and Schumi
İstanbul Park geri döndü de Schumi :(
We all miss Michael
We miss Schumi.
Massa is the Istambul king, three wins in 2006, 2007, 2008.
@@spiritofalaska YES! Go Michael!!
So true..🏎
6:36 lightning fast correction
Ye, Schumacher style
Its normal
@@28erny I agree Alonso was something different. But don't forget Schumi was also pretty old at the time. And tired out from so many years of competitiveness and wins and losses
@@28erny but yeah Alonso has always been insanely talented and skilled, and maybe even more than drives who won more than him
@@28erny Well man, all interesting and Alonso was amazing, but he couldn't win in Ferrari where he should've, and also for his mistakes. In team sports, and ESPECIALLY F1, the ability to create good relationships with the team is fundamental. As to perform under pressure. Fernando did mistakes in Suzuka with Ferrari, after that incident in Spa (that wasn't his fault), that costed him the championship (25 points). As in the end of that year he played a very poor race while Vettel came back from falling in the end of the pack after a spin at the fist turn of the race. Fernando was special, but not THAT special. He lacked in focus when mattered most, in his later years, as in his duel with Hamilton in McLaren. And those are just other facts, not debatable at all, as yours. He had unparalleled talent, and probably so much that he couldn't relate to normal or mediocre human beings. Briatore proved to be the best team leader for Alonso as he could be the means between Alonso and the team. When he lost Briatore, he could never get in touch with the team again, and he found himself unable to win again. Is a coincidence that those stuff coincided with his departure with Briatore? I don't know, i just find his attitude was what drove him to be the best, from the skill standpoint, but the worse from the team relationship standpoint, and that in F1 counts, for strategies to be effective, and for the car development. Schumi was the best not because he was the fastest, but because he was not the best in anything but just amazing in everything. What Fernando wasn't. And you can argue, but there's a reason why Fernando didn't win that much. And i've asked myself too, as, by a Ferrari tifoso, i really loved Fernando and his drive style. And respected a lot him for what he did when won with Benetton Renault. But for that same reason i asked myself why then he didn't win as much as others. And that was the conclusion i could end up with. Because for which other reasons. Is known that many hated Alonso for his attitude, mostly probably in the McLaren, if you remember what happened in the team
Alonso is probably the best F1 driver in modern times. Although his number of championship's doesn't reflect that, he spent a lot of time in cars that weren't competitive. When in a competitive car he was unbeatable. He also proved he can drive and win in other motorsports and not just F1.
He had a great car in 2010 though
@@mattylatvala43 And he was beaten that year?
Hmmmmm?
@@civenful beat some meat
@@didyouknow5648 Excuse me dude?
@@civenful ? Oh you wanna get past? Oh okay sorry you can go past now
After they stopped using those cars in F1 I stopped wathcing "F1" altogether. These were the best days, drivers, and engines, period!
I stopped as well
same here !!!
indeed
V8 Era was great too
Same. Now F1 is Lewis Hamilton Show. Shitt..
Those glorious days (1950-2010) when there was hard struggle instead of easy DRS fly-bys
nowadays the hard struggle is being able to stay close enough to enable DRS with all the dirty air, they still fight
@@Nate-lw2gu True. But it's boring and much easier. They gotta dump DRS and get the cars racing closer. They've been trying to do this but never find a solution. Racing now is so artificial compared to before.
@@Jinsun202 didnt you see Alonso and Checo's defense? Also, the drs don't make every overtake boring
@@pauloaz496 And now we got another amazing Checo-Alonso fight but the point stand, drs ruined the sport.
DRS make it easier for the dominant car to pass slower ones hence why is very common to see mercedes or redbull start on the bottom and end in podium or winning, and since now we have weak engines and batteries the cars arent running all laps 100% like schumi era.
DRS, kers, hybrid engines were a mistake.
@@pauloaz496it makes 99% of them boring
Schumacher and Alonso, the best F1 driver's of all time
Senna is the best
Nikki Lauda
Alain Prost
Maldonado is the best :)
i am the best.
Show, profissionais, técnica , agilidade, tecnologia.
2:43 el recorte que se manda Alonso, es tremendo
Pelos de punta!! Es fué y será un monstruo.
El Ferrari tenía una marcha más! gracias Alonso el auténtico kaiser
Fernando Alonso ... uno de los mejores pilotos ABSOLUTOS ... como puede ver aquí, Schumi está luchando
MUY excelentes habilidades de conducción de ambos ...
locura
Yes these 3 turns made the difference. Schumacher understood his mistake and how to pass it faster by gearing down before the left turn. But he realised it 2 laps from the finish and it wasnt enough.
@@user-rg9wp2fy7m yes! I'm.tired telling people that. Shummi wasn't giving the 130 % of the car as Alonso did
esse som dos motores é o coração da f1 nunca sera o mesmo .... essa época nao tinha mimimi ....
El R26,para mi ,el mejor coche que ha conducido Alonso.Fiable y pepino.
Jose Felipe Solis pues si, sobre todo el de principio de temporada
The one battle I keep rewatching again and again and again... Never gets old.
Wao la F1 está a otro nivel tomar esas curvas a esa velocidad, como Schumacher baja un cambio para no perder fuerza, por muy poco no se salen de la pista; estos si son pilotos de verdad 👏👏👏
Brilliant drive by both ..
I love this era! The cars looked better, the speed, the.... everything!
Not the speed but everytging else... yes they were better lol
@@neodomdom7210 In racing these cars are 6 seconds faster than modern ones, I mean in racing not in qualifying.
Imo. I Prefer the new one models for design and safety.
@@outtamaway Safety wise absolutely agreed, today's monoposts are super safe, yes.
The speed? Wot
That battle with 9 laps to go was incredible. Schumacher takes a wider slower entry into the one corner and gains way more exit speed on Alonso only to have him absolutely slam the door shut on him 2 turns later.
Just imagine if Schumi was driving with fastest cars then as Hamilton now. He would have at least 10 titles. It is the brilliance of knowing how to beat faster cars. That makes Schumi the best of all time.
Senna
Talking about winning with slower cars…….Senna
Yeh , he was in a class of his own , senna to though
@@rocksnmortarlb8907 Oh really? When did that happen? Senna "won" 3 titles with McLaren, wich between 1988 and 1991 was the best car on the grid.
@@livingbeing1113 he really should've won 1988.. After Japan 1990, he should've been booted from F1 and had his points deleted
I Miss this sound!!
yeah....me too. Those wonderfull engines makes me smile like an infant.
This and Imola 2005 are where Alonso learned to defend like a lion against a 7 time world champion, to then hold up Hamilton in Hungary!
Alonso v Hamilton in that race just shows how much better a driver he is, despite the car. Hamilton couldn't hold off max in a better car for 2 laps, despite a similar difference in pace.
@@zbou23 Its our duty to tell the next generations who truly was the goat of that era. A wikipedia spreasheet didnt tell the full story.
I need to just play this audio while muting the current races.
What a glorious soundtrack!
Las mejores batallas que ha tenido la F1 sin lugar a dudas.🤗
2:35 this is the best defence I've ever seen in F1 history
alonso displaying it again last week against the Ham !!
No wonder why he's the best
Man, Alonzo is fast.
Fast? Beating the best ever with 19 .
With worse car.
People you don't know a damm about motor
That renualt v10 was the engine that put out the most torque of anything on the grid that year. It had a 0 - 125 time faster than any other car in competition. Thats why he's so fast out of the corners
@@natebrubaker3269 Renault's car faster than the Ferrari? Jajajajajajaja
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Man ride your ponny
@@28erny did I mention a ferrari anywhere in my previous comment you donut
@@natebrubaker3269 just to make sure you understand it. ..
There are two cars. The red One is faster that the other.
There are two drivers. The Spanish One is faster than the other. So far. Uncomparable.
You said that the reason that the faster driver is taking the corners with that speed is because the car...
Wow.
His teammate was a very good driver...
Schumacher was good too.and with a better car and can't take any corner like Alonso does. No matter the car they drive. Alonso is tones times faster than Schumacher, so far.
That's the reason the blue car is taking the corners that way.
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2:42 Mario Super Kart Boost activated
Makina muri
Un verdadero espectáculo eso era F1 en estado puro y magy Alonso 😉👍
That was AWESOME!!!! THANKS FOR POSTING!
Alonso’s car just faster through triple left apex section
I could watch this video forever. Pure art watching both of them drive
Esta carrera.. esté circuito..me impresionó ala velocidad que éstos Dos.. Alonso y el Káiser corrían a fondo en muchas curvas.. que bueno el sonido..el agarre.. una maravilla tecnología y humana.. gracias..❤🎉
Looking at this now, I can consider myself lucky enough to have seen all these great battles and some live gp. Best time ever. Forza Ferrari e forza Schumi! ❤️🇮🇹
Que grande eres, Magic!
Es una bestia!!! Y lo que le queda 😝
The sound/scream of a V 10 is just incredible!!!
You also see the strength and weaknesses for both Cars on different parts of the track. Just beautiful.
V8
You are right, 2006 was the first year of the V8.
Legend this sport misses you
Isso sim é que era piloto de verdade, com maestria, audácia, técnica e, principalmente o dom de voar nas pistas.
Falou tudo mano
Percebe que ele não tira o pé do acelerador enquanto freia, então não perde tempo. Muita técnica.
Ss mano eles eram fodas ;-; pena q nessa época eu era muito novo pra ter noção doq q era bom
Incredible lack of downforce in turn 8 following closely the car in front, Schumi was faster in every other corner
@@Foxsa1.8 kkkkkkk vc não perdeu muito não mano, anos 2000 era só Schumacher, apesar que muitas vezes ele era desbancado, hj em dia não sei, só Hamilton, blz ele é bom, mas pqp, parece que o regulamento só favorece ele
Ese increíble sonido del Ferrari cuando baja velocidad y la manera en que Schumacher lo exige
En revoyant ces images qui nous ont fait rêver, j'espère maintenant de tout coeur qu'il retrouve une bonne santé et que nous puissions un jour le revoir 🏎️
For me Alonso reached Sena's level, and i watched Sena driving.
Also both charismatics drivers in different ways. The best of each era.
Who is here after Brazil 2023
I got this in recommnended after this track announced in 2020
Grandes recuerdos que lindos sonidos de motor y reduccion de marchas ❤❤
Ohhhh música celestial ¡¡¡ Cuando de verdad eran coches de F1. Los comentarios impresionantes, como se echa de menos esos motores ¡¡¡¡ Lo mejor haber podido disfrutar de estos momentos de la F1 , ahí quedará en nuestros recuerdos, en nuestras retinas están y estarán hasta que el tiempo nos deje disfrutar de lo vivido... ¡¡¡¡
This is amazing! Also, the fact that Felipe Massa still had +7 seconds on Alonso is impressive as well
Blv or not massa was better than sumi or Alonso before his head crash
Ferrari was Ferrari, the golden era of Ferrari
Massa always loved Istanbul. I'm sure when F1 turned back to Istanbul in 2020's, eyes searched for him...
Man , Alonso Is Faster then my internet connection
His car was faster, but the man behind him was faster than him.
@@maverickm4802 That year, Renault was faster car. No need to use words like WTF etc. 🙏
@@a.m.6752 up until silverstone the Renault was faster but after that the ferrari was faster Schumacher used to win q2 by like 7 tenths at every track
@@andypandy1114 q2 -_-
2021 ..schumacher age 52 .age gap...and alonso in F1 ..and today a young Ocon challenging and ahead of a 2-time champion in points.
tables turn.. The world is like a wheel. Sometimes
you're on top, sometimes at the bottom.
The Renault at Turn 8 was flying!
turbulence effect only
Just couldn't hang with Alonso in turn 8
I think it has to do with the loss of grip when driving behind another car in a fast corner. Could be the tires or gear ratios like another commenter suggested, but I think it's more about losing the grip when driving too close behind another car in fast corners, so you back of slightly instead of staying too close and then going too wide. F1 at that time was notorious for making it super difficult for drivers to make overtaking attempts. That's why overtakes from the past are more valued. Driver had to show real skill to find a way to stay close to the car in front and perform an overtake.
First impressions: I'm a permanent fan of M.S., and he is the GOAT, but this video undisputably shows you that Alonso is indeed very, very good.
2012 alonso can eat 2005,6 Alonso just one hand in the steering
Amazing onboard, thanks for sharing 🙏🙏🙏
F1 owes Turkey a GP. Hell of a track. Stood up and resurfaced when asked to by the FIA on short notice with their own money. It’s not like they’re in Western Europe with multiple categories renting the track each weekend. Give something back to the fans of Istanbul
hell of a point mate. you're right
When the batteries were only in the flashlight!!!!
The best thing is,this was the time when renault had an average car and ferrari was on his prime and still alonso smoked the shit out of that ferrari,this is what makes him a great driver,a good driver can drive any good car and win,but the great will win even with worst car
Without any error by Alonso was impossible overtake him..
Schumi had so many chances and chose to drive a good lane to overtake in the last corner of the last lap
@@ChrisMuehlberger60 why did he slow down and skip gears on purpose for the left turns 6-8????
@@judgedrew2076 tell me!!!
@@ChrisMuehlberger60 what?
@@judgedrew2076 why he slowed down and shift gears on purpose in turn 6-8
Na minha opinião, Alonso está no mesmo nível dos maiores em termos de pilotagem, mesmo tendo apenas dois títulos. Disputou títulos com Michael, Lewis e Vettel. Não ganhou mais, por causa do seu temperamento, escolhas e uns carros inferiores. Mas como piloto, um mestre.
..by all means, the engines were screaming for help those days..
Two of the best F1 drivers of all time, great footage. Thanks.
Oh the pure sounds of the screaming engines!, not like the tractor engines of today :/
Tractor sounds better i guess.
DRS could destroy this battle.
Wow. My heart was pumping all along....
I miss Alonso and Istanbul Park.
2:16 good stuff :)
Sensacional saudades de escutar os Motores Aspirados cantando Alto...Que linda música para meus ouvidos. abraços a todos.
Really miss this, the F1 cant be better than this
Both Really good drivers, hope to see something like that these days
M.Schumacher IS A LEGEND, the others are way back.
FOREVER AND ALWAYS M.SCHUMACHER
TX2673XA senna was and will always be above him
@@bZLxcz dont talk nonsense... senna got beaten by prost in same car TWICE! Senna is overrated because he died. Also in his last year,he was losing to Hill in same car. Schumi is ahead of Senna. Only guy who comes close to Schumi is Alonso.
@@BorisNS90 lol ok bud
@@bZLxcz In the 19yrs that Schumacher raced for, he was achieving more than Ayrton Senna did in his 10yrs. Double Sennas achievements and he would fall short of Schumacher. Not to mention Senna was a mental mess just before he died, something Schumacher never was! It would have only gotten worse for him. Schumacher was coming at him, and Senna knew it. He can't be called the best, he did not get the chance to retire and therefore no-one knows how good he may have become, or not! Retirement was not to far away for him anyway. Doubtful that he could have achieved what Schumacher did. Senna was always looking for the best car, not Schumacher, he would pick the worst teams and through sheer dedication bring them on to the top. Another thing Senna did not do! Senna was good, but not the best, 19yrs of Schumacher proves that!
@@barrysargent1213 your opinion bro, I respect it. Still do not think that way
bons tempos saudades desses motores.... isso sim era corrida onde proporcionavam verdadeiras maquinas aos grandes pilotos..........
Mio dio, l'ho guardato così 😳 emozionante 👏👏👏che mostri!!
2 real legends
Can we talk about how Alonso positioned his car here 2:33
Next level awareness. Magic is… Magic.
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thank you so much for this
Man that renault was a wild beast.
That engine sound was like listening to a good classical song from Beethoven.
Schumi was the Jordan of F1 period.
I love this engine sound
God i love this track
Is that all u have to say
@@Wim34 Is that all you have to say?
Saudades desses motores ,barulho de arrepiar .
Jolly Good Race! Michael Schumacher's Ferrari vs Fernando Alonso's Renault! Thank You So Much for Sharing! ♥️🌷🕯
O som desse motor é música para meus ouvidos.
I remember that season. The Renault had better aero, but less power.
mworld magnussen
Not only that. Michelins were better in the first few races but from late June onwards Bridgestone was hands down the better rubber. Also most cars had the mass damper but Renault's was very efficient. The FIA banned them in-season so Schumi could retire with an 8th but he was unlucky with engine failure at the end.
@@ignitione Confident bullshitting, you clearly live in a false universe. lol
@@ignitione How tf does FIA want to help Schumi when they just screwed him and Ferrari the year previously??
@@stepladder3257 how tf? You a fanboy or what. Alonso got penalized 5 places at Monza for blocking Massa when he was over 100 meters ahead. They banned the mass damper mid season because Renault was winning too much. A number of strange things happened. How tf did they screw Schumi the year before? Didn't Ferrari screw themselves for nor developing a good car and Bridgestone failing with those tyres? Why did FIA remove the 2005 rules after only 1 year? To help somebody maybe? Hmmm
I've never seen such a driver in my life, this man is truly legendary, there is no other shumayer king shumayer👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Absolutely ……. Schumacher = GOAT
The traction from the Renault from 2003 to 2006 was legendary. It always took off like a rocket from the start and always made more powerful cars in slow corners look pedestrian
the f1 should come back to instambul
Antero Angel Ballis
İstanbul :)
Antero Angel Ballis☝🏼! Istanbul !
Constantinople*
Samet Sarıkaya Sorry, I don't speak Saracen.
. 🇹🇷🇹🇷Türkiye 🇹🇷 🇹🇷
Lightning start from Alonso, no matter the toxic nature and conspiracies, you cannot deny him being among the top 10 drivers.
Wdc is not the things you can judge on him...he is arguably the best of the planet history of f1
.....may be jim clerk only one better than alonso but not sure of it...
He is top 3 For sure. Imo #1 Talent wise.
@Jay Bee he’s not top 3. Top 10 definitely but not top 3. Hamilton, Schumacher and Senna are the top 3
@Jay Bee you forget or don't even know of other drivers.
Crashgate also is arguably the most controversial
scandal ever in the history of Formula 1.
Crashgate took place in Singapore in 2008 and at
face value, the race was just another Fernando
Alonso win however under the surface was a game of lies and cheating.Alonsos partner Nelson junior intentionally crashing ..