I am a 75 year old woman and I think your voice is just fine. You are thinking too much, be the girl God made you and don't think what people think about you. You are a beautiful young woman and be so thankful. Have a good life and get all the help you need.
Evelyna...who are you to tell someone to "rephrase"? I don't know about you but I live in a free country where all views are valued. If your fee fee's get hurt...just keep scrolling. 😘
@@evelyna_paula1747not everyone doesn't believe in God. You do you. That's why more people are not supportive because there are joy killers like you waiting to pounce. God bless your heart
Your voice has come a ways, Elle. As it stands, maybe think of it as a battle scar. Transitioning left its mark, but you've come through the other side, and you're still standing.
I completely agree , Elle, your voice is actually quite fine(yes I’m twice your age but I promise it’s changed a lot over the past 3+yrs.) I personally think you sound lovely and genuine…..because you are❣️ Coming from a woman with a lower voice from a few different medical conditions, I hate how I sound(never smoked either) and I can’t imagine your exact feelings about your voice other than it’s a difficult fixation from the real trauma you’ve been through over your gender, for you to move on from(NO judgement 💕) but please please talk to someone about your voice if it continues to cause you this amount of distress. Please, you are a beautiful, intelligent, ETC, young woman who deserve to see the goodness life has to offer you. Please take care of yourself, YOU DESERVE IT♥️ Kimberly
@GamebatTheGamingPony Ruined is a matter of perspective. Changed, obviously, but as noted above, plenty of women have lower than average voices, and are considered sexy. And considering how much lower Elle's voice while still on T, it's actually come back quite a bit. Stop being a killjoy.
@GamebatTheGamingPonywhen she starts looking real old it will be fine, she will sound like those older women that drink gin and smoke loads of fags, it will have that aged husky sound.
After about 5 minutes of listening to you I honestly didn’t even notice your voice! I was interested in what you were saying, not how you actually ‘sounded.’ You were simply Elle. ☺️ And it breaks my heart that this has caused you so much pain, suffering and self-consciousness. 😢 It takes time to figure out who you are and why you matter; but you’ll get there! And once that confidence starts shining through, I promise no one will care what you sound like, they’ll just be happy to be in the company of such a wonderful, intelligent, funny and compassionate human being! 😊❤️🌸 Thanks so much for sharing your journey! 🌻
Some female singers have very low voices...maybe you could, just for fun, sing the blues and tell your story to yourself. The amazing power of singing. You may find out you have an amazing singing voice. You are right about getting away from all the opinions. Thank you for telling your story. Be nice to yourself because you are very special!!
If you don't want to talk about the gender stuff with random people you could just tell people who ask or comment that you had a medical condition in the past that affected your voice, you know it sounds unusual, but you're just a regular female. You don't need to delve into your personal history with strangers, unless you feel like it.
Great idea. And it's not a lie. Transitioning is a medical "issue" in a sense. It's no one's business. As a person who has stuttered much of my life and couldn't hide it, I got tired of always having to explain why I was struggling with speaking. Now I have a channel but I just edit, edit, edit. Lol.
yes, she can just say she has a partially paralyzed vocal chord or something.... Or that she got vocal chord thickening from some medication she once was on...which is totally true that one.
She could even just say PCOS. It’s likely she has some degree of that anyways, and a lot more people nowadays know it can = higher natural testosterone, including facial stubble, etc.
As a fellow detransitioning woman, I need to thank you for sharing your story so openly. Your videos helped me cope with the despair that I felt in the first couple of years or my detransition(FtMtF). You are wonderful and bright, Elle. Thank you ❤
I swear I'm not trying to be mean, I'm genuinely curious what made you want to be female again? Is it when you learned male privilege isn't a real thing?
@@sunkillsmoonyou’re obviously coming in with a chip on your shoulder because some ppl have said male privilege is a thing but you’ve not felt that in your life as a male.
Thank you for sharing your story. You are beautiful as a woman and so is your voice. Please know that there are caring people out there. Much love 💕 to you.
Yes that’s exactly what I was thinking to. Some woman just have deep voices, some sing in choirs I sm in and they sing tenor or bass and they are just woman with deep voices.
I am a Family Therapist who has commented on a few detransition videos, and I just want to say.. You are incredibly lucky to come out the other side of the affirmation cult with as little permanent damage as you have. I am currently dealing with 4 clients(all under 21) who are coming to terms with being sterile and having gotten rid of body parts, and suffered permanent side effects from the medications... All of this has showed me, and proven to me, that you are all guinea pigs being experimented on. I feel you, and all detransitioners should sue, and hold these people accountable. We have a huge lawsuit on behalf of 30 young adults and minors now, and the Hospital is getting ready to settle for over 60 million dollars... The only advice I can give is, to stop worrying about what everyone else thinks of you, and just be yourself for yourself. Stop worrying what people call u by, or think of u as. None of that matters. What matters is you finding inner peace and confidence in yourself. Accepting who u are. Once you can do this, you will free yourself of all of these identity burdens you carry. I will keep you in my prayers, and I wish you the best on this journey of life! Be happy and find purpose in life!
We shouldn't play fast and loose with our bodies. They are not infinitely malleable and many choices are irreversible. All totalitarian ideologies have refused to accept the limitations -- or, if you like, the integrity -- of the human body. That's one of the characteristics by which they can be identified.
@danhanqvist4237 The crazy thing is, the affirmation doctors and therapists(who are mostly activists and grifters with monetary motives) cite "research" that is not even 10 years old. The mass experimentation on minors with these drugs is very new. There are no concrete studies that show any 100% conclusive benefits over the risks. On the contrary, the side affects and down sides shown are so disturbing, it should make any ethical medical professional be unwilling to even go near this treatment until far more testing and understanding is done in labs. The brain n development is so complex, we cannot begin to know the harm we are doing. This is why lawsuits need to happen, and laws need to be put in place to stop this immediately.
@@JonHop1 It would not be surprising if the "side-effects" were very serious. That is the more reasonable hypothesis. Again, there's a technological disregard for the integrity of the human organism. It's really the same kind of attitude that allows ecosystems all over the place to be destroyed. It is a kind of hubris that we somehow have transcended biology and that we can do whatever we want and decide the consequences for ourselves. It is odd that many who think this reshaping of the human organism is nothing very seriously often also claim to care about climate change, apparently without realising that their own disregard for biological limitations is the same attitude that drives climate change. It's hubris.
Kathleen Turner has always had a deeper voice and she’s a movie star. Amy Winehouse, Vivica Fox, ooodles of women have contralto voices. Don’t worry about your voice. You are amazing!
What You are, my Darling, is a BEAUTIFUL Woman.🌻 That is EXACTLY who You are!🌻 Consider Praying and ask who created You, for guidance.🙌🏼 He IS THE ONLY ONE, who can help Us All. I AM EXTREMELY PROUD OF YOU.👍🏼 Keep moving forward and DO NOT look back not even to gain momentum.🌻 God Bless.
You are not the problem. The problem are the enablers in the professional fields and political areas etc. You’re gorgeous and kind, your voice sounds good to me, if you’re worried about it, don’t, things will improve, so don’t be so hard on yourself, you’ve come a long ways. ❤ new sub
Every detrans youtuber I've watched so far gives off this very calm, intelligent and self-reflective vibe. The whole point of life is to be a good human being, not to look a certain way ; you seem to be quite ahead in that regard.
You're Elle. You are a beautiful woman who's had a hard and confusing life. A deep voice gains attention, yes. It reverberates through the room and calls people to listen more than the average woman's voice. Use that. People double take when they hear you speak. This is positive. You use your voice to share your story online. Don't let seeing our faces scare you from sharing in real life. People will listen. You may be the only one they will listen to. A lot of girls my age (18) need to hear your story... You're amazing girly! Stay strong
People are misled into believing that they will be happier as something else instead of working with what you were given. Everyone is here for a purpose and in the body that they were born in. It’s all about life m lessons. Thank you for this video and your a wonderful, beautiful girl! Appreciate and learn to love yourself for who you are! You are phenomenal!
I'm transsexual I know as a young child in the 70's my transsexual wife and the transsexual friends I have met since(around my age) all say they knew younger than I did. I think this is the difference between genuine trans people and the modern trans movement. It seems everyone can be trans now and making a mockery out of everything people like me go through
@@user-VIntuitive agreed especially with the non binary community. I've seen in group " trans women " saying there identity is trans I've said in these groups if they need trans as there identity are they transitioning for the right reasons, Unfortunately there's going to be a lot of people hurt going back to there birth gender especially from the non binary community And people like myself are going to be left trying to pick up the pieces and trying to get some sort of acceptance again ( sorry if that sounds selfish )
Hello Elle. Lauren Bacall, the movie actress, once said that she was often mistaken for a man when talking on the phone since she had a rather deep voice for a woman. I feel that your sharing your story is really helping people. Thank you.
Yeah, heaps of women have deep voices but she still sounds like a female to me. Poor bloody kid. Another victim of Satan. But she can go straight to Christ and be accepted and loved right now! No questioned asked. A lot of these de-tranning kids are going to the Catholic Church for help and isn't it interesting that Catholic counselling on LGBT issues with kids is BANNED BY THE GOVERNMENT. Isn't that interesting? So who is the bad guy here?
Hi Elle! I am a 28 year old detransitioned woman from Australia. (got top surgery at 18, testosterone for 5 years, detransitioned about 2 years ago). I can relate to you so so much in this video. Seriously, even the codependency aspect you mentioned with your partner, and drug dependency. I don't think I've ever related to someone more. My voice brings me constant mental anguish and I understand you completely with what you said about feeling "fake" or inauthentic. Know that you are not alone in your struggle. It really is pure hell to go through. Wishing you the best and my messages are open if you need to talk to someone with a very similar experience.
Sorry if you don't mind me asking, what made you change your mind? Having surgery seems so definitive and final, besides your voice being deeper, do you still struggle with your body image or gender? It's ok if you don't want to answer 👍🏼
@@mc_va That's ok to ask! It was a culmination of many things. Realising it didn't fix my problems within myself, I was still miserable. Realising that I was abused sexually as a child and had a deep hatred for being seen as a female.. I thought breasts were inherently sexual and I didn't want that attention. Realising the thought of growing old as a man scared me. I couldn't relate to anyone, male or female, just felt like a mix between both. Realising that I wanted to be seen as a woman in sexual partnerships. Also, having an obsession with gay guys in general as a young teen while I was exploring sex and sexuality and wanting to be that. Those are just some of the things that made me change my mind but it really is a complex thing. I definitely struggle with my body image. Honestly I think I just have undiagnosed body dysmorphia and it manifested as wanting to be the opposite sex
@@vampy_anne wow that's a lot you have to deal with!, I hope you can have clarity and acceptance in what ever shape of form and thank you for answering to my questions 😌
Did you and your Parents not consent and sign? Than why are ya all victims? I'm baffled. You and your parents made bad desicions and choices and yes this is real life with real consequences. Why do you think us grown upa been fighting this for so long only to be labeld as haters and transfibes etc uhhg can't win
My Aunt has had a very deep voice since her early 20s. Due to her thyroid disease. In her 30s. She decided she didn't owe anyone any explanations. She was always a beautiful woman inside and out. Once she let go of what others thought or may have thought about her. She was a much mentally healthy woman. I pray you will be able to do the same.
This is my first time watching you and a couple of points came up. I will soon be 70, and my advice to women is that I regret spending so many years of my life worrying about what others thought. I finally realized that no one was asking me what I thought. Please don't get into your head so much about others. You are giving them too much energy. Also, you know what your voice used to sound like so it's a difference for you. Other than the people who knew you before, no one new has a comparison. You do have a deep female sounding voice. A lovely voice. I found myself wondering what you would sound like singing. A throaty rocker chick. I believe strongly that we were created by God and He is the only opinion that will matter in the end. Allow Him to lead you through this tough transition time and see what he has waiting for you. I think you will be very surprised and delighted. You do not need to explain to anyone about your intimate details.
I've been following your updates since I saw you on Blair White's channel. I really appreciate your transparency and sharing your story. Thank you for giving an update. You look great and I can tell your voice is much better now compared to your first video years ago. I'm sure you struggle to hear the difference but it was the first thing I noticed when I started this video. You are still young and have a bright future ahead of you, because you are taking the appropriate steps now to seek positive help and not just affirmation help.
Be gentle on yourself. I have been questioning our society's obsession with self sufficiency lately. We seem to feel shame if we rely on another person for emotional regulation but we are literally wired to do so. We are a social species. Also, there's never a happy ending guaranteed and happiness as a goal is pretty elusive. I think going for meaning is more likely to result in happiness. You have been through a heck of an ordeal and you will have a lot to offer because of it. I hope you can find meaning in that. At the end of the day it's our relationships to self, family, and community that feed and nourish us. You absolutely have what it takes to have that. Sending you love through the ether.
Wow. This girl is impressive. She thinks she is a freak, no way. She is so level headed. She takes ownership for her part and takes a hard, honest look at herself. I don't think I've ever met someone so self aware and interested in being the best person she can be.Beautiful woman. I wish her the best.
Dear Elle. I have followed your videos since the first one in 2019. You have grown so much in these 4 years as a person, you've got so much insight into your life and personality. Keep up the good work with therapy, try to adress your obsessiveness that, I believe, has had an impact on your life on many occasions (body issues? transition? validation from others?). And now it's holding control over you when you're doubting your femininity and worrying about other people's reactions. As a person who is also obsessing and worrying a lot, I understand your struggle. It's not easy to give it up. But to recognise its destructive power is the first step. To me, you have looked like a normal girl from the very first detransition video, your voice is deeper than that of an average woman, but it's feminin. It's not only the tembre of the voice that matters, it's the way of talking, too. Also a voice is just a little part of our appearance. I have known a coule of guys with naturally high pitched voices. Yes, some people noticed it, but nobody though that these men were women just from the register of their voice. Remember, you're evolving all the time (we all are), things will change, they'll get better, you'll get more distance and perspective. Virtual hugs from someone who's rooting for you.
Thank you for your honesty and vulnerability. You are valued and loved just the way you are. I’m sure it’s not easy but you are making a difference in others lives. For what it’s worth, your voice sounds great. 🥰
I think you are amazing. Thank you for sharing your story in such a brave way. You may help so many others who are struggling or nervous about navigating through detransition.
They’ve interviewed people that jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge and miraculously survived. They consistently say that the first thought after jumping was “This was a huge mistake.” Thinking about unaliving yourself is something that happens to human beings in all sorts of circumstances. Thoughts are just thoughts, and they cannot hurt us. I have appreciated your honesty in these videos throughout the years. I pray that God gives you strength and hope and faith. 🙏🏽💖
Do you know how many good therapist got out of the field or lost their job because they knew all along you needed help? I have zero sympathy for you. You got what you asked for. Look at all the kids now who are forced to deal with your stupid pronouns etc.
huh? WHo knows what they were thinking....they jumped. Did the ppl who say the jumper was thinking what have I done? That fall is SO fast and SO scary I dont think they had time to think that. When they looked down and didnt change their mind it was too late.
I was in a mental health hospital in a 2 bed room. The person in the other bed was someone who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge and lived. And yes, they said they don’t know what they were thinking but ut was a huge mistake. They were so happy they survived.
Hey Elle. I am a therapist and so I'm going to do what I would do with any client and take a look at what you said at minute 21:00 "it's just a constant little voice in the back of my head that goes your voice is deep... and people are gonna look at you and... wonder why... people are gonna think it and not say anything... people are wondering why you sound like that... every time your voice goes down into that like rumbly rumbly way it does... they're gonna think that something is wrong with you, that you are lying to everyone about being a woman, that you're just you know putting on a show, and that you'll never be able to relate to real women..." First of all, you ARE a "real woman" and the fact that you have been injured by irresponsible professionals doesn't change that. Feeling uncomfortable in your body, feeling like you don't really fit in or fit the stereotype of what a woman is supposed to be or how a woman is supposed to behave--all of this is very common! A lot of women feel this way for one reason or another. I felt this way because I grew up fat and had issues related to undiagnosed ADHD. I was also likely on the autism spectrum but had no idea back in those days (I'm 60 now). So the idea that you can't relate to other women because something about you doesn't meet some artificial standard is demonstrably false. "it's just gonna be like fake like... everyone is putting on a show around me to make me feel normal and comfortable without acknowledging the fact that I sound like a man... so I kind of constantly feel like um everyone is secretly thinking that I am a freak and that I don't belong and that I you know am just putting on the performance of being a woman because I'm not really a woman..." I think this comes from the gender culture, don't you? You sound here like a man who believes that people are just humoring him and that he doesn't pass as well as he thinks he does. The tendency to worry so much about what everyone else thinks of you is not healthy. As you continue to focus on your mental health, I encourage you to recognize that other people's opinions are much more about them than about you. I'm not going to lie to you and say that your voice doesn't sound lower than that of most women. Of course it does, but I have heard women who naturally have a deep voice like yours, so it isn't out of the realm of possibility for a woman either. Also, this is not your fault and honestly, every other aspect of your appearance is unambiguously female. Your voice can be very quickly explained (if you want to explain it) by saying, "yeah I took testosterone for awhile but decided it wasn't for me, so I stopped." Finally, I think you go from "people notice that my voice is deep" to "they think I'm a freak." Do you honestly think that's the conclusion that people automatically come to? Deep voice="freak?" It's ONE ASPECT of your physical being--ONE! Just because we have a characteristic that differs from the norm doesn't make any of us a "freak." If it did, the vast majority would be freakish in one way or another. I know for sure that I would be 🤣 Anyway, sweetheart, I hope that helps. I am on Twitter at @janewitchwoman and provide free support for detransitioners. Please take care of the lovely, unique woman that you are and always will be. ❤❤❤
Thank you for offering to help these poor young people who have been lied to. They should never have had the opportunity to change a perfectly healthy body into something else. We all know that children and young adults often don't perceive life clearly and so they jump on these quick fixes but then have to live with them. My heart goes out to Elle. She is special and beautiful and created uniquely by our heavenly father. I hope she can see that the Lord loves her and He can make all things new. FYI: I have a daughter who has been transitioning for 1.5 years, had a hysterctomy at 25, and has not talked to me in 5 years. I am so brokenhearted. I love her so much but the trans world has stolen her from me. I continue to pray for her and send her notes of love and that I want a relationship with her but she does not respond. She was never this person before. God Bless you or helping these people.
I'm very proud of you and your willingness to share your journey. Thank you for sharing your unique story. Your honesty and vulnerability will help others understand how to support someone who is going through what you are experiencing.
As a male detransitioner (3 years down the line) I can definitely relate to the feeling of not being able to connect to people. I think that struggle definitely stems from having detransitioned, because it’s such a unique and profound experience that we detransitioners have gone through but that most people have not gone through. I find it easier to relate to people who have had other struggles in life, such as people that overcame different addictions or other things. But even then, it’s like there is something about my view of the human existence that changed after detransition and that new viewpoint is very hard to find in other people…
@@carwai I’m sure you and many other people have difficulties connecting with others too. Wouldn’t you agree though, that it’s easier to connect with people that you share some experiences with? And some experiences are so profound that it kind of affects most of your communication and view of life. I’m not trying to say that detransitioners are unique and special unicorns in the world, because a lot of people probably feel equally disconnected from everyone else, but for different reasons right. For example I think most immigrants have the same feeling that I was trying to get at in my original comment. Even though an immigrant learn to effectively communicate with the people in their new country by learning their language and culture, they will probably never feel as connected to them as they do to the people of their home country. If they meet another immigrant, they have something profound in common that makes it easier to relate even though they have lived completely different lives otherwise. To have gone through transition and then detransition is inevitably also going to be a very profound experience. It would be strange if it doesn’t affect the way you relate to others. And in a sense it has made me feel like an immigrant in my own country because it’s so rare to find other people with the same experiences.
You look feminine and your voice has no bearing on that. I had friends in the 50s and 60s who had deep voices but we never took any notice, its only in today’s world that people look at others and wonder what they are. You are fit and healthy just live your life and try to be happy in your own skin. I am 72 and my life has been physically tough and I have lost my partner of 40 years in March and I don’t want to go on but I am still here.
Elle, I am a mum of a trans identified child. I am deeply worried they will make the wrong choices and may suffer in the future. Your voice is vital to inform parents and vulnerable children of the consequences of inadequate mental health and gender care. Give yourself more time. You are grieving a life lost and that's a big grieve but that lost life is just gateway to a new unique life. A very important life, where you can love and be loved. Where you can make a difference regardless of in the public eye or not. To just one person or many, both are revelent. My words will not help but I mean them sincerely and hope you can come out the other side of your grief soon ❤
I don’t know how to articulate this in a gentler way, but your kid knows themself better than you know them. It certainly took a lot of courage for them to come out to you, and it might drive them away if you express your concerns that they might change their mind on their gender identity. You’re a parent so it’s natural you’re worried about them
@@ROYAL_REBELcis men go bald all the damn time, it’s just about genetic predisposition and testosterone. It shouldn’t be an unexpected side-effect, especially if your male relatives are baldies.
@@sanpellegrinolimonata Nope. Kids are kids. Let them decide once they've become adults. You stay out of it. I wanted to be a boy from 6-17 and then grew out of it after. I still live in my combat boots and still hate dresses & bright colors, or anything girly, but I'm married & I'm a computer programmer now. Luckily my parents left me be. So no, kids don't know. I've seen too many detranstioners regret their decisions
@@sanpellegrinolimonata We aren't talking about cis men are we. We are talking about this girl, who could've lost her hair due to testosterone therapy. F OFF
Life is a struggle, and we have to embrace the good things, good people, and celebrations when they come, as well as to ride with the waves of disappointment and despair; the main thing is to believe that the low times are only temporary, and there is still good to come. Never feel guilty about enjoying good times. Don't let bad things define you. It is a rare person that feels like they belong. And Facebook is one of the worst things to happen to society - everyone only posts smiling faces and "successful" lives, making us believe their lives are better than our own. Honesty of people like Elie show life as it really is. Thanks for sharing, and I wish you well. You are a beautiful person, inside and out. Your voice is lovely.
I was born and still am a female. One with a deep voice. Your voice doesn't make you or break you. If you feel sexy, you are sexy. Period. No matter your voice, your gender, no matter what imperfections we all have. I would love to give you a big hug. What you are is a beautiful human. A brave one who is sharing her story so that others can be less alone.
You are beautiful and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with your voice. Thank you for your openness and honesty it was very enlightening to hear about the difficult journey you are on.
Want to know a secret? Research has shown that people aren't actually thinking about/judging you. They are too busy thinking about themselves. Most of the time, that feeling of judgement is not really coming from other people, but rather from you judging yourself. So, be kind to you, girlfriend. Everyone is struggling. Give yourself some grace (not in a religious way) and know that we're all struggling together. 🫂
as an autistic nonbinary person, i feel a lot of the same things you do. I always felt/ feel like I have to perform and make myself more palatable so people will like me, it’s become so hard to really connect with other people because I am so afraid of my authentic self being too much for other people. I also started dating my gf in a few years ago as I was becoming an adult and trying to become my own person but i became very codependent for the same reasons, she was the one person I felt like i didn’t have to perform around and she knew everything about me but didn’t care. Im at a similar place to you now, i don’t feel sad over most of these things everyday anymore and i’ve worked on my codependency but I still just feel like i’m performing and waiting for my life to get better and to be happier…now i’m just trying my best to make each day a little better and praying that one day it does actually get better like everyone says. There are some things I guess we’ll never truly know about how other people perceive us but i’m just trying to take it one day at a time and remember that if sharing parts of myself that are authentic makes someone think less of me, they don’t deserve any more of my time or energy and that can just be that. I’ve enjoyed watching your videos throughout the years and although I’m not in the same position as you as someone who’s detransitioned, I understand you and you’re definitely not alone. ❤️
You aren't non binary. You are your birth sex. Non binary is a made up, religious concept. Embrace your womanhood and watch your life change for the better.
It’s a wonderful feeling if you ever get to the point of it giving a fuck. I don’t mean not caring about people. I don’t meany being nasty, an asshole, not holding yourself to high morals. But dressing for yourself. Cooking what you want, not what you are supposed to. Joining clubs you want or not joining any. Being g a night owl. Rising with the lark. Literally living your authentic life without considering what is going on in anyone’s head. And without being mean, 99.999999% of people don’t even see you, other than avoiding bumping into you in the street or thanking you for holding a door for them. Everyone is deeply in their own head, they don’t have the energy to worry about you. Wishing you all the best.
It has been so long since you posted this that I don't know if you'll be looking at my comment... but I hope you will. Your story is so touching and I am crying my way through this. I can empathize with not feeling like you belong. I wonder... what if... what if it doesn't matter what people think of your deep voice. What if your voice is a badge of honor for making very hard, life-changing decisions to embrace your true self. I see you as really brave. It breaks my heart that for four years, you have not felt comfortable with yourself. Like the "people who live in glass houses should not throw stones" -- who in this world has the right to judge you for your journey?
I've been following you off and on since you began to detransition. I think you are beautiful...and I remember your voice in the beginning videos and to me, your voice now seems perfectly normal as a female voice. I remember when I first heard you, yrs. ago, I was taken aback a "bit"...Now, I truly think you sound like any other female. You have gorgeous hair too. I think you are very pretty and thanks for sharing your life with us. I am an old 50-something woman whose child went down the same path as you. Please keep learning about yourself and moving forward.
Hi Elle, I happened across this video today and as Dad of 4 (grown and flown) and a grandpa to 9 (as of last inventory) I will tell you this, I would be proud to call you my daughter. I am definitely NOT an expert on these matters by any strectch. You seem to have a lovely soul. Battered and war-torn, but lovely. I hope you find your happiness. You deserve to be happy. Read that last line again. Say it to yourself everyday. Young people today have it WAY harder than us old folks. Soooo much information with the price tag of judgement. The world can sure use more beautiful, brave souls like you. I wanted to close by saying something inspirational like "hang in there" or some lame shit like that but...nah. Too cliché. How about...you do what's best for Elle and whatever brings you true happiness. I wish the best for you!
I thought about being a trans man when I was 13-16 years old but never perused it (I had enough issues to deal with.) I’m 23 now and I’ve always had a deeper voice than other women, had a more male or tomboyish way of behaving, etc. I was bullied for having a deep voice and being masculine in school, but that’s just how I am. Honestly, I think if trans stuff was as popular back then as it was now, I would have been accused of being trans. Most people would simply just believe you are a girl with a deeper voice, because you are. There’s nothing wrong with that.
I'm not a detransisioner but I have a lot of your same symptoms. I had major trauma that I was not able to get help with because it was hard to make those connections. Thank you for being so raw and honest.
@@sandywhat2429 hey guess what? We are all great as we are and everyone changes over their lifetime. People become more athletic or more relaxed, lose weight, gain weight, have babies, age, our bodies - especially as women continue to constantly change throughout our lives. Don’t judge others so harshly as clearly that’s how you are judging yourself and you cannot be happy with such an attitude (or at least others aren’t who are around you).
@@viviennedunbar3374 She’s not a freak, she’s not worthless. She’s as valuable as anyone on this earth. I reject your armchair analysis of me. Perhaps you projected all that? She WAS who she was supposed to be. Transitioning is tragic when people realize they’ve made a grave mistake. That’s what many responsible adults in the world are trying to prevent. Surgeons should be held responsible. It’s going to be a tough road ahead for many of these people. Professionals have tragically failed them. Making de-transitioning videos are very valuable. Others need to see how this is failing. I hope she survives and finds peace.
@@sandywhat2429 @viviennedunbar3374 Elle made a mistake. She was misled by her own feelings, her circle of influence, health professionals, the lgbtq+ community, and the media. Surgeons are responsible, but they are not the only ones. People pay these surgeons to perform these surgeries. Even Elle is at fault. Transitioning is tragic and Elle made a mistake, but it wasn't a grave mistake. It did not kill her and she is choosing to never let it kill her, even though it could have. It deeply scarred her. She has to live with the consequences of her actions for the rest of her life, a life she is choosing not to waste. She is grieving who she could have been, but she is using her story of brokenness and healing to hopefully prevent history from repeating in someone else's life. Vivienne, this is not a normal change of the body, nor a healthy one. Bodies change but there is a limit to how healthy one is. Too much weight loss or gain is unhealthy. Doing things to our bodies that's unnatural and damaging should not be accepted and normalized, something the body positivity movement does regularly. Sandy and Jodi, she is not -how- she was, but she can still be -who- she was, just with a bit more maturity, life experience, and mental bruises. She has a deep voice but she's going back to accepting that she is Elle, a beautiful woman. Videos by people detransitioning are amazing and could potentially save other kids and young adults from heading down this path to only more hurt and confusion. Transition is just another false hope given to people who are desperate for fulfillment and peace. Elle is a survivor. I hope she finds peace too.
No, she was born exactly who she was meant to be. But now with all the artificial hormones she’s taken, she’ll never be the same… unfortunately, her health and life are in jeopardy… and clearly her mind. Where were her parents? Why didn’t they get her help when she was struggling?
Also, Elle, take heart in this: you are depressed right now. All of your thoughts and feelings are extremely familiar to me, being someone who has fought chronic depression my whole life. But you will feel good again, I promise. I am so glad you are healing from your wounds but I promise that you will feel good again. A day is not a life. ❤
Thank you for your story! It's so helpful in understanding all of this new issue that is happening for so many. I think we all need help at times and feel abandoned and try to do what we think will help us to feel better. I appreciate your vulnerability in sharing.😊
You’ll one day learn we all have terrible problems and none are better than anyone else. Your story is one of overcoming. Your life gives encouragement to others because we all secretly worry we’re unlovable. One day you’ll understand what I’m telling you. You will fully own yourself and understand just how special you really are. In the meantime, a wonderful podcast I recommend is: Getting to Know Your Bible. We’re each here for a reason.
My SIL is constantly mistaken for a man over the phone, she did not transition. I do not think that your voice is masculine, fwiw. You are a completely normal woman, Elle, you are normal. Give yourself some grace, be patient with yourself. My 20's were a shit show and my 30's were some how even worse, you are in a tremendous period of growth and growth is difficult and painful but you will make it through. Just give yourself some grace.
Stay brave, strong, smart, wonderful and true to your heart Dear Elle💜 You’ve been through a monumental amount in your young life. I’ve always had so much respect for your honesty and integrity since you began sharing here. As a mum of several, 2 of which are going through some of these huge life altering issues and trying to be who they need me to be (lots of self-education!) one of the most difficult part of parenting in my 30 yrs of being a parent. I hope you are doing well and continue to seek and receive support and help when you need to heal from the many serious pains you’ve experienced in life. You’ll find your groove darlin.💜❤️🩹
I think you have a good testimony to share with others by bringing awareness. Pray about all of the things you’re going through, I know that sounds so simple but there’s a lot of power in prayer. Hang in there!
Thanks for being brave and honest and making this video. I pray all is well with you and you continue to journey to health and wealth. You are beautiful ❤️ You are loved. Your video will help yourself and others. Life is not easy but we have to work at it. No one is perfect. Give yourself grace, grace and more grace.
You are beautiful, to look at and to listen to, and I can't imagine anyone coming across as more authentic and sincere. Thank you for sharing. Time does heal. 💛
I am 5’11” tall. For all of my life I’ve thought people might think I’m a guy because I usually wear jeans a t shirt and tennis shoes. I’m 66 years old and most everyone I know feels uncomfortable about some flaw when being in public or meeting new people. We tend to focus on our differences rather than embracing them as uniqueness. Everyone is totally unique. No two people are the same. We have to stop allowing others to put us in boxes. Be you!! You are beautiful and have a lovely voice. To me it doesn’t sound masculine at all. I’ve always liked deeper feminine voices. It shows strength. Don’t be timid about it. Tell yourself you are perfect the way you are. Everything works good and you are perfect. God gave you special talents to be able to share what’s going on in your life. Thank you for sharing your journey. It’s encouraging to me as my lovely granddaughter is caught in the transgender movement and to hear your story gives me hope she will come out of it as well. Bless you. Keep on learning about yourself and the purpose why you are here. There is a purpose and your real journey is just starting. Blessings to you. May you find true Love, Joy and Peace.
I'm 5'11" as well & although I wear more feminine clothing the last few years, I still have a tendency to go full on tomboy. It makes me feel good. And I really just don't care what anyone thinks. I try to give smiles to people no matter what I'm wearing or where I'm at. I wasn't always confident. I wouldn't go back to Elle's age for anything. I love being 49. ❤😊
I couldn't have said it any better. She is a lovely, seemingly intelligent young woman. I am so happy she is going to counseling to help deal with life. Very inspirational young woman.
Bravo, you are a great person. We need more people like you to warn others because too many people are forcing to change others because of their own personnal vision or choices. I wish you the best.
thank you for being strong enough to be vulnerable. You are so loved and cared for! With each day that goes by, I think you will find that it does get better. Life for anyone/everyone has peaks and valleys. Your voice is beautiful, IMO. Thank you for posting an update!
Having gone through depression and having a deeply dysfunctional relationship with my body: hang in there, girl. Took me a good 8 years before I felt like I was able to truly reconnect with myself physically. 10 years now and I finally feel Whole. Good. Healthy. Do I still struggle with my baggage occasionally? Absolutely. But this is the skin I'm in and I no longer let it rule my thoughts and sense of self. 4 years is a long time to look back on and to live with pain. But it's also a flicker in a lifetime. In another four years, you may look back and barely recognize this phase of your life, as intense as it's been. So just keep chugging. You got this
Thank you for being brave enough to admit it was a bad plan and havingnthe courage to turn it around. Especially sharing your story. It's hard, but you will be blessed in warning others. ❤
Thank you for sharing your story, I value your courage to speak out about it and I’m sure it will be very helpful to others living in such a difficult situation. I respect, admire and appreciate you 🙏👌💗
Sweetie, just so you know, anyone who doesn’t know you would never know or guess your back story. Lots of girls have deep voices and you are gorgeous. YOU know your voice and body are different so you are going to be more critical of yourself. People who don’t know you are just learning about you and you are perfect the way you are. ❤❤❤
Thank you for sharing your story Elle. The biggest lesson you describe is that neither transitioning or detransitioning has helped you to feel happy and that you are still struggling with negative sense of worth, low self-esteem and intrusive thoughts from past trauma. I hope others hear. Because fixation on gender & sexuality is a symptom not the answer. You're DNA says you are female, you have a female brain (males are different) your voice is very pleasant compared to some female American voices that hurt my ears, I don't mean to offend but it's true! I'm English and have a relatively deep voice for a female! You have amazing skin and are not afraid to go on camera pretty bare faced without layers of make-up! Natural beauty! You have been through a lot but this is your journey and you are still very young, time is on your side to decide what you would like to do with your life? Build Friendships outside of that community to just be you, the beautiful woman you were always meant to be. ❤
You're very brave and this is a story a lot of us can relate to just in general and I think you could do a lot of good things with your experience by reaching out to vulnerable children who are about to make the same mistakes. You'll find that helping others will help you as well. It's like kicking addiction, you are more apt to listen and able to relate to those who have actually been there and done that as opposed to someone whose never had the experience. Keep your head high, be you, love you and everything else will follow.
I remember when your first video popped up. I watch it and was so amazed at what you had been through and what you were about to go through. A very difficult experience you shared with us. You have come so far and keep moving forward. you got this
You are such a courageous young woman! It's beautiful that you are sharing your story. I have no problem with your voice at all! Know you are a gorgeous woman!
Thank you for being honest. I really appreciate you sharing so sincerely about how hard this has been for you, that neither transitioning nor detransitioning is a cure-all. A story like this is more inspiring than one wrapped up in a neat little bow. Still, while your story doesn't have a happy ending now, and maybe it won't anytime soon, I pray you'll keep moving forward and you'll reach a better place. Cheering for you!
I've been watching for a few years. It's so evident you are a gentle, beautiful soul. I am so grateful to you for showing us all that it's ok to NOT understand your gender ...or to change your self perception. It's hard being a human, let alone having all these labels pushed on us. I'm sorry you've had to struggle, but also glad you are doing OK. Keep being you, so honest and kind hearted, introspective. ❤ ALSO you look beautiful! And I love your voice. But then again I've always loved deeper female voices. If you like to sing, rock that shit!!!!
Elle, I've been watching your videos for some time now. For what it's worth: I like your voice exactly as it is, you have a beautiful voice. It is very normal to feel pain and despair at times. It is normal to go through periods where we feel different from others and inauthentic. Little by little, we find our way to mental well-being. You are a beautiful woman, and you look and sound very normal to me.
Thank you, Elle, for being so open with the world about your personal difficulties as a result of transitioning/detransitioning. Parents and friends of kids who think they need to transition can use your story as a stop-and-think cautionary tale. You may play an important part in saving others from the same difficult situation. You may not feel "authentic", but real authenticity is simply being honest with yourself and others. I think you are authentic in the most essential meaning of the word. You've been through a very strange and painful adolescence. To unpack that baggage and get the contents cleaned up and put away will take a long time. Four or five years is nothing on that journey. But what you don't yet know is how a growing maturity, if you keep your mind honest and seeking a healthy and constructive perspective, changes and improves one's ability to cope and eventually flourish. It takes time and it's hard. Ignore the asses who tear you down. They have problems of their own. Last, but not least, a person's core identity is not race, sex/gender, or anything else except that person's MIND. Make it your primary business to seek what is true and to keep your mind on the track of being objective and just. What other people think of you will slowly cease to be of such importance. The confusions of others about your sex will cease to be more than an annoyance. You will connect with others on the basis of mental compatibility. You will find true friends that way. But building that mental self takes time and patience. You have to give yourself plenty of time to get there. And you have to look in the right place to build that self. You are a mind, above all.
Thank you for this video. I'm having hard time and can relate to your words and tone. I don't know if this is ever going away. I'm feeling you. You are not alone
You have come a long way in 4 years, I watched your original video back then and seeing this video I can see how far you have come! You are a strong beautiful woman, Best wishes to you❤️❤️
I wish you all the best in your life. Please don't give up on yourself because you're worth it!!!! Happiness is in your destiny just believe it and don't give up on yourself. Blessings 😇
Elle, it took a lot to tell your story. It's encouraging that you see one day you will see yourself outside of the issues you have been dealing with these past several years. The first video of yours that I saw was when you first detransitioned. I'm so glad you have positive influences in your life. Many have had issues with their self esteem throughout the teen and twenties years that are just as difficult, seeming like your under a magnifying glass and that you just want to hide. That happens to so many of us. As you saw at one point, good things do happen. Better things are yet to come.
I'll be praying for you, Elle. You're doing great, especially on days when you feel like you're not. Those are the days that get you closer to happiness. Your feelings are all completely justified and normal. One day at a time. Many women have deeper voices, that doesn't make them any less of a woman. Keep pushing through, you're going to make it. ✝️❤️
Elle, You are a beautiful young woman (even though you have doubts). The strength you have is amazing. From de-transitioning to openly acknowledging your fears and doubts. You're on the right path even though it has rocks and potholes to navigate through. Wishing you all the best. Be safe
You are you. Love you. Society puts so much pressure on identity in all forms and aspects. Constructs fck with the brain and twists our sense of self. Your journey is a tough one and your vulnerability will help others but above all be you because you are wonderful.
Thank you for doing this video, I hope it helps others thinking of or coming out of transition. You are spot on about your mental health and having "traits" of various mental health diagnoses. Know that our brains in normal times mature by the age of 30. Your mind will be especially challenged due to the drugs and steroids but it does not mean you do not have worth. Life is not rosey for everyone and social media is pretty much lies. Give yourself grace and work to find a community that understands you, none of it gets "easier" I think we just grow wiser and figure out what does matter to us. So, my best advice is, focus on what good you have in your life, what brings you joy and makes you happy.
Thank you, for such an honest account. And for sharing such personal feelings and experiences with the world. It can’t be easy, but I can only think that it *is* important that people know that you haven’t disappeared into a ‘happily ever after’ bubble. Especially for other people who want to transition before adulthood/at all and that you are doing a great service to share your reality. Even if it makes one person rethink a decision which they think is simpler than it is (I’m not saying your transition was a rash decision - I have no idea). When you say that you feel like there’s something inauthentic, that you don’t feel like you really connect with people, and you’re putting on a facade, it made me wonder if those kind of feelings were part of what made you want to transition in the first place? You don’t have to answer. I really wish you well, sincerely, with every aspect of your health and life.
Elle, you are so beautiful, gentle, balanced and wise. You are a star shining for others - both for those of like trauma of brutal agenda and those outside of it. We are all one, and your bravery, grace, maturity and baring your heart are an inspiration to us all. Keep facing and acknowledging the grief. It is sad, tragic and terribly unfair. But, this is the heart of where you will heal and break fort your wings to soar to your happiness. You will. Trust. I am sorry for your pain.
I feel so much love for you girl! I am not part of the trans or detransitioner community, but I have always followed your journey because I appreciate your honesty and openness. It sounds like a very rough path to follow, but I’m glad that you’re still going. If it makes you feel any better, my family has mostly deep voiced women(myself included), and I think that most of us have been mistaken for a guy(especially on the phone lol). Genuinely, if I saw you walking down the street, I wouldn’t look twice. You just look like a normal woman(that sounds rude, but hopefully you catch my drift lol). Your voice has also lightened a lot(especially in comparison to your older videos). I genuinely don’t think that you sound like a dude at all. You have a deep voice, but it doesn’t sound like a man’s deep voice. It sounds like a woman’s. You also happen to look a lot like my family lol. You resemble my grandmother and I, and we are gorgeous so that’s further proof that you are too 💅 You might not believe what I just said(you did say that you felt like everyone was putting on show and pretending like they saw you as a woman, so I don’t blame you), but I meant it. Also(as much as I enjoy your videos, and I am sure that you help many people with them) you mentioned that exiting the trans/detrans community sometimes helps, so I would hope that you would do so(even permanently) if you felt that it would help you. I cannot relate to most aspects of your story, so I know that my words can only go so far, but I hope that people who are walking the same path as you can find this video, and you guys can share in that experience. It sounds very isolating, even though you are not alone in it. You’re very strong, and I wish you luck and love! 💛
Every community I ever belonged to turned out to be bad for me. It was only when I realised that I had to navigate life without a community that I started to find my own understanding of myself. Still working on it.
You are brave and the voice of many more, you have a very important purpose in this life, do not be afraid, it is there where you will find your peace and the true happiness and freedom for which we have been created. You are an example.
Elle, thank you so much for sharing your story! It is so important that this information is out there to hopefully prevent others from following down this part. And your voice is really soothing - you sound like a woman with a deep voice to me. One of my mothers' friends has a naturally deep voice like that. It makes her sound very mysterious :)
I really relate about feeling disconnected and inauthentic. My story is a little different than yours, but I *was* on testosterone for 5 years and it upended my entire life. I often have to remind myself that a lot of weird shit happens to a lot of people and that people have all kinds of voices for all kinds of reasons. Sometimes, people compliment my voice and it upsets me because I don't feel like it's even mine... but then I feel like I have to be grateful that I'm getting a compliment. It's so complicated. I am lucky in that I navigate the world with relative ease and people tend not to question my gender, but I relate to what you said about that little voice-- I do sometimes still over-analyze the things people say to or around me or reactions people have to me, etc. It is exhausting, but not nearly as exhausting as it once was. I have hope for you even if you don't have it for yourself right now. Thanks for sharing so openly.
It sounds like you’re on the path of self discovery and clearing out your root chakra or balancing the sacral energy within you. I know that had to take a lot of courage. So I applaud you for your honesty. Wishing you the best in your healing journey. ❤
I'm so happy for you. I'm sorry you had to go through all of this with transitioning and detransitioning but at least you seem to be very happy in your life now! I wish you luck in your life and God bless you!
I think that most people think and would think how brave you are to make these videos. Your strength and vulnerability is helping to save others. Please know this.
Really glad you shared your story. Anyone looking to transition should watch your video before if only to take a moment to realize how big a step it is. You have an amazing amount of courage with what you have gone true. Btw your voice is fine! I know its easier said but if anyone has a problem with it its their problem. The emotional rollercoaster you have gone thru NO one has a right judge you having not walked in your shoes.
As a woman with a voice similar to yours, I can say that I've had many compliments on it. I'm glad that it has been seen as a strength in adulthood. I tried talking in falsetto when I was younger because I was embarrassed about it. I'm glad that you've come into better head space about all of this. I have great respect for you sharing your experience here!
I'm not sure how old you are now. I had a lot of issues in my 20's & Thirties ( not about gender issues at all). I had a lot of therapy to deal with a dysfunctional childhood. Eventually i found a therapist who helped me deal with the emotional issues from my childhood, including severe depression. I want you to know it can get better, you can overcome these difficult issues. I'm now in my sixties and I'm okay psychologically . You will get better overtime and be able to look back at what a stellar job you have done dealing with your issues. I hope you keep on, keeping on!
You are so very beautiful. Ans your voice is strong, and also beautiful. Femininity has never been as narrow and rigid as society has made it to be. Strong, masculine women are as female as delicate, soft women. Pink has thousands of times and shades. Just as blue does. Just as any color or shape or texture. Don’t ever let someone place you into such a tight space. Keep being brave. Keep being truthful. Keep shining light on this.
I am a 75 year old woman and I think your voice is just fine. You are thinking too much, be the girl God made you and don't think what people think about you. You are a beautiful young woman and be so thankful. Have a good life and get all the help you need.
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Not everyone believes in God. Rephrase :-)
good advice. a lot of women have low voices; and keep telling your story; it is vitally important for those who are in the same boat.
Evelyna...who are you to tell someone to "rephrase"? I don't know about you but I live in a free country where all views are valued. If your fee fee's get hurt...just keep scrolling. 😘
@@evelyna_paula1747not everyone doesn't believe in God. You do you. That's why more people are not supportive because there are joy killers like you waiting to pounce. God bless your heart
Your voice has come a ways, Elle. As it stands, maybe think of it as a battle scar. Transitioning left its mark, but you've come through the other side, and you're still standing.
I completely agree , Elle, your voice is actually quite fine(yes I’m twice your age but I promise it’s changed a lot over the past 3+yrs.)
I personally think you sound lovely and genuine…..because you are❣️
Coming from a woman with a lower voice from a few different medical conditions, I hate how I sound(never smoked either)
and I can’t imagine your exact feelings about your voice other than it’s a difficult fixation from the real trauma you’ve been through over your gender, for you to move on from(NO judgement 💕) but please please talk to someone about your voice if it continues to cause you this amount of distress. Please, you are a beautiful, intelligent, ETC, young woman who deserve to see the goodness life has to offer you.
Please take care of yourself, YOU DESERVE IT♥️
Kimberly
@GamebatTheGamingPony Not helping...
@GamebatTheGamingPony Ruined is a matter of perspective. Changed, obviously, but as noted above, plenty of women have lower than average voices, and are considered sexy. And considering how much lower Elle's voice while still on T, it's actually come back quite a bit.
Stop being a killjoy.
@GamebatTheGamingPonywhen she starts looking real old it will be fine, she will sound like those older women that drink gin and smoke loads of fags, it will have that aged husky sound.
Wow such a cool loving perspective
After about 5 minutes of listening to you I honestly didn’t even notice your voice! I was interested in what you were saying, not how you actually ‘sounded.’ You were simply Elle. ☺️
And it breaks my heart that this has caused you so much pain, suffering and self-consciousness. 😢
It takes time to figure out who you are and why you matter; but you’ll get there! And once that confidence starts shining through, I promise no one will care what you sound like, they’ll just be happy to be in the company of such a wonderful, intelligent, funny and compassionate human being! 😊❤️🌸
Thanks so much for sharing your journey! 🌻
🙏 Praying that you will find love & peace that only Jesus Christ can give! Love ,hugs, and prayers! ❤️🙏
Lovely words of support.❤️🦋🌹
Some female singers have very low voices...maybe you could, just for fun, sing the blues and tell your story to yourself. The amazing power of singing. You may find out you have an amazing singing voice. You are right about getting away from all the opinions. Thank you for telling your story. Be nice to yourself because you are very special!!
She’d make a great Sweet Adeline bass:-)
If you don't want to talk about the gender stuff with random people you could just tell people who ask or comment that you had a medical condition in the past that affected your voice, you know it sounds unusual, but you're just a regular female. You don't need to delve into your personal history with strangers, unless you feel like it.
So true!
This is great.
Great idea. And it's not a lie. Transitioning is a medical "issue" in a sense. It's no one's business. As a person who has stuttered much of my life and couldn't hide it, I got tired of always having to explain why I was struggling with speaking. Now I have a channel but I just edit, edit, edit. Lol.
yes, she can just say she has a partially paralyzed vocal chord or something....
Or that she got vocal chord thickening from some medication she once was on...which is totally true that one.
She could even just say PCOS. It’s likely she has some degree of that anyways, and a lot more people nowadays know it can = higher natural testosterone, including facial stubble, etc.
As a fellow detransitioning woman, I need to thank you for sharing your story so openly. Your videos helped me cope with the despair that I felt in the first couple of years or my detransition(FtMtF). You are wonderful and bright, Elle. Thank you ❤
I swear I'm not trying to be mean, I'm genuinely curious what made you want to be female again? Is it when you learned male privilege isn't a real thing?
@@sunkillsmoonyou’re obviously coming in with a chip on your shoulder because some ppl have said male privilege is a thing but you’ve not felt that in your life as a male.
@@ichabodcrane9479 whatever you say buddy.... tell me more about myself since you know me more than I know myself?
Thank you for sharing your story. You are beautiful as a woman and so is your voice. Please know that there are caring people out there. Much love 💕 to you.
@@sunkillsmoonbest way to try not to be mean is to NOT be mean.
I’ve known a lot of women with deep voices . i’m 74 years old and I can honestly tell you you’re very pretty and your voice is fine.!
A deep, sultry voice was a thing in Hollywood, ala Kathleen Turner, Lauren Bacall etc.
@@fern4508 that's what I was thinking.
Yes that’s exactly what I was thinking to. Some woman just have deep voices, some sing in choirs I sm in and they sing tenor or bass and they are just woman with deep voices.
I am a Family Therapist who has commented on a few detransition videos, and I just want to say.. You are incredibly lucky to come out the other side of the affirmation cult with as little permanent damage as you have. I am currently dealing with 4 clients(all under 21) who are coming to terms with being sterile and having gotten rid of body parts, and suffered permanent side effects from the medications... All of this has showed me, and proven to me, that you are all guinea pigs being experimented on. I feel you, and all detransitioners should sue, and hold these people accountable. We have a huge lawsuit on behalf of 30 young adults and minors now, and the Hospital is getting ready to settle for over 60 million dollars... The only advice I can give is, to stop worrying about what everyone else thinks of you, and just be yourself for yourself. Stop worrying what people call u by, or think of u as. None of that matters. What matters is you finding inner peace and confidence in yourself. Accepting who u are. Once you can do this, you will free yourself of all of these identity burdens you carry. I will keep you in my prayers, and I wish you the best on this journey of life! Be happy and find purpose in life!
We shouldn't play fast and loose with our bodies. They are not infinitely malleable and many choices are irreversible. All totalitarian ideologies have refused to accept the limitations -- or, if you like, the integrity -- of the human body. That's one of the characteristics by which they can be identified.
Thank you so much for all you’re doing to assist the detransitioners - you are a rare light in the medical community.
@@Tonimarie8888 What is the first clause in the Hippocratic Oath as conventionally understood? "Do no harm."
@danhanqvist4237 The crazy thing is, the affirmation doctors and therapists(who are mostly activists and grifters with monetary motives) cite "research" that is not even 10 years old. The mass experimentation on minors with these drugs is very new. There are no concrete studies that show any 100% conclusive benefits over the risks. On the contrary, the side affects and down sides shown are so disturbing, it should make any ethical medical professional be unwilling to even go near this treatment until far more testing and understanding is done in labs. The brain n development is so complex, we cannot begin to know the harm we are doing. This is why lawsuits need to happen, and laws need to be put in place to stop this immediately.
@@JonHop1 It would not be surprising if the "side-effects" were very serious. That is the more reasonable hypothesis. Again, there's a technological disregard for the integrity of the human organism. It's really the same kind of attitude that allows ecosystems all over the place to be destroyed. It is a kind of hubris that we somehow have transcended biology and that we can do whatever we want and decide the consequences for ourselves. It is odd that many who think this reshaping of the human organism is nothing very seriously often also claim to care about climate change, apparently without realising that their own disregard for biological limitations is the same attitude that drives climate change. It's hubris.
Kathleen Turner has always had a deeper voice and she’s a movie star. Amy Winehouse, Vivica Fox, ooodles of women have contralto voices. Don’t worry about your voice. You are amazing!
Nah voice gotta go
I agree❤
It's a male Trans voice, not a deep female voice.
Thinking the same: Susanne Pleshette, Patricia O'Neal, Brenda Vaccaro. Wonderful voices.
Ouuuuuu, I absolutely ADORE Kathleen Turner for her voice ❤
What You are, my Darling, is a BEAUTIFUL Woman.🌻 That is EXACTLY who You are!🌻 Consider Praying and ask who created You, for guidance.🙌🏼 He IS THE ONLY ONE, who can help Us All. I AM EXTREMELY PROUD OF YOU.👍🏼 Keep moving forward and DO NOT look back not even to gain momentum.🌻 God Bless.
Don't lie to this guy
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You are not the problem. The problem are the enablers in the professional fields and political areas etc. You’re gorgeous and kind, your voice sounds good to me, if you’re worried about it, don’t, things will improve, so don’t be so hard on yourself, you’ve come a long ways. ❤ new sub
Every detrans youtuber I've watched so far gives off this very calm, intelligent and self-reflective vibe. The whole point of life is to be a good human being, not to look a certain way ; you seem to be quite ahead in that regard.
You're Elle. You are a beautiful woman who's had a hard and confusing life. A deep voice gains attention, yes. It reverberates through the room and calls people to listen more than the average woman's voice. Use that. People double take when they hear you speak. This is positive. You use your voice to share your story online. Don't let seeing our faces scare you from sharing in real life. People will listen. You may be the only one they will listen to. A lot of girls my age (18) need to hear your story... You're amazing girly! Stay strong
Such an excellent excellent response. Her voice is powerful and she has a lot to share.
Telling the shocking truth about wrong choices and medical advice in transitioning proves that you are extremely, extremely brave.
People are misled into believing that they will be happier as something else instead of working with what you were given. Everyone is here for a purpose and in the body that they were born in. It’s all about life m lessons. Thank you for this video and your a wonderful, beautiful girl! Appreciate and learn to love yourself for who you are! You are phenomenal!
I'm transsexual I know as a young child in the 70's my transsexual wife and the transsexual friends I have met since(around my age) all say they knew younger than I did. I think this is the difference between genuine trans people and the modern trans movement. It seems everyone can be trans now and making a mockery out of everything people like me go through
@@staceypark7408 absolutely. It’s more of a fad , something to make people feel like they’re fitting it .
@@user-VIntuitive agreed especially with the non binary community.
I've seen in group " trans women " saying there identity is trans
I've said in these groups if they need trans as there identity are they transitioning for the right reasons,
Unfortunately there's going to be a lot of people hurt going back to there birth gender especially from the non binary community
And people like myself are going to be left trying to pick up the pieces and trying to get some sort of acceptance again ( sorry if that sounds selfish )
Hello Elle. Lauren Bacall, the movie actress, once said that she was often mistaken for a man when talking on the phone since she had a rather deep voice for a woman. I feel that your sharing your story is really helping people. Thank you.
Yeah and her voice was and is considered sexy, deep voiced for women are still feminine and cool
@@penthehuman Remember liking being hoarse because of that sexiness ;)
Yeah, heaps of women have deep voices but she still sounds like a female to me. Poor bloody kid. Another victim of Satan. But she can go straight to Christ and be accepted and loved right now! No questioned asked. A lot of these de-tranning kids are going to the Catholic Church for help and isn't it interesting that Catholic counselling on LGBT issues with kids is BANNED BY THE GOVERNMENT.
Isn't that interesting? So who is the bad guy here?
Kathleen Turner and Bette Davis had low, sultry voices, too.
L. B was A MAN
Hi Elle! I am a 28 year old detransitioned woman from Australia. (got top surgery at 18, testosterone for 5 years, detransitioned about 2 years ago). I can relate to you so so much in this video. Seriously, even the codependency aspect you mentioned with your partner, and drug dependency. I don't think I've ever related to someone more. My voice brings me constant mental anguish and I understand you completely with what you said about feeling "fake" or inauthentic. Know that you are not alone in your struggle. It really is pure hell to go through. Wishing you the best and my messages are open if you need to talk to someone with a very similar experience.
Sorry if you don't mind me asking, what made you change your mind? Having surgery seems so definitive and final, besides your voice being deeper, do you still struggle with your body image or gender? It's ok if you don't want to answer 👍🏼
@@mc_va That's ok to ask! It was a culmination of many things. Realising it didn't fix my problems within myself, I was still miserable. Realising that I was abused sexually as a child and had a deep hatred for being seen as a female.. I thought breasts were inherently sexual and I didn't want that attention. Realising the thought of growing old as a man scared me. I couldn't relate to anyone, male or female, just felt like a mix between both. Realising that I wanted to be seen as a woman in sexual partnerships. Also, having an obsession with gay guys in general as a young teen while I was exploring sex and sexuality and wanting to be that. Those are just some of the things that made me change my mind but it really is a complex thing. I definitely struggle with my body image. Honestly I think I just have undiagnosed body dysmorphia and it manifested as wanting to be the opposite sex
@@vampy_anne wow that's a lot you have to deal with!, I hope you can have clarity and acceptance in what ever shape of form and thank you for answering to my questions 😌
Sorry you’re dealing with this. How are you dealing with the top surgery thing now?
Did you and your Parents not consent and sign? Than why are ya all victims? I'm baffled. You and your parents made bad desicions and choices and yes this is real life with real consequences. Why do you think us grown upa been fighting this for so long only to be labeld as haters and transfibes etc uhhg can't win
I’ve seen a bunch of your videos! Thank you for the vulnerability and authenticity, good and bad. Sending love ❤
Bless you, beautiful Elle. Thank you for sharing this. You're helping a lot of people.
My Aunt has had a very deep voice since her early 20s. Due to her thyroid disease. In her 30s. She decided she didn't owe anyone any explanations. She was always a beautiful woman inside and out. Once she let go of what others thought or may have thought about her. She was a much mentally healthy woman. I pray you will be able to do the same.
This is my first time watching you and a couple of points came up. I will soon be 70, and my advice to women is that I regret spending so many years of my life worrying about what others thought. I finally realized that no one was asking me what I thought. Please don't get into your head so much about others. You are giving them too much energy. Also, you know what your voice used to sound like so it's a difference for you. Other than the people who knew you before, no one new has a comparison. You do have a deep female sounding voice. A lovely voice. I found myself wondering what you would sound like singing. A throaty rocker chick. I believe strongly that we were created by God and He is the only opinion that will matter in the end. Allow Him to lead you through this tough transition time and see what he has waiting for you. I think you will be very surprised and delighted. You do not need to explain to anyone about your intimate details.
Agree 💯
I am 63 yes
Yes.
Amen!!
We always overthink our flaws. That is one of our flaws :)
I've been following your updates since I saw you on Blair White's channel. I really appreciate your transparency and sharing your story. Thank you for giving an update. You look great and I can tell your voice is much better now compared to your first video years ago. I'm sure you struggle to hear the difference but it was the first thing I noticed when I started this video. You are still young and have a bright future ahead of you, because you are taking the appropriate steps now to seek positive help and not just affirmation help.
Be gentle on yourself. I have been questioning our society's obsession with self sufficiency lately. We seem to feel shame if we rely on another person for emotional regulation but we are literally wired to do so. We are a social species.
Also, there's never a happy ending guaranteed and happiness as a goal is pretty elusive. I think going for meaning is more likely to result in happiness. You have been through a heck of an ordeal and you will have a lot to offer because of it. I hope you can find meaning in that.
At the end of the day it's our relationships to self, family, and community that feed and nourish us. You absolutely have what it takes to have that. Sending you love through the ether.
Wow. This girl is impressive. She thinks she is a freak, no way. She is so level headed. She takes ownership for her part and takes a hard, honest look at herself. I don't think I've ever met someone so self aware and interested in being the best person she can be.Beautiful woman. I wish her the best.
Dear Elle. I have followed your videos since the first one in 2019. You have grown so much in these 4 years as a person, you've got so much insight into your life and personality. Keep up the good work with therapy, try to adress your obsessiveness that, I believe, has had an impact on your life on many occasions (body issues? transition? validation from others?). And now it's holding control over you when you're doubting your femininity and worrying about other people's reactions. As a person who is also obsessing and worrying a lot, I understand your struggle. It's not easy to give it up. But to recognise its destructive power is the first step. To me, you have looked like a normal girl from the very first detransition video, your voice is deeper than that of an average woman, but it's feminin. It's not only the tembre of the voice that matters, it's the way of talking, too. Also a voice is just a little part of our appearance. I have known a coule of guys with naturally high pitched voices. Yes, some people noticed it, but nobody though that these men were women just from the register of their voice. Remember, you're evolving all the time (we all are), things will change, they'll get better, you'll get more distance and perspective. Virtual hugs from someone who's rooting for you.
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Thank you for your honesty and vulnerability. You are valued and loved just the way you are. I’m sure it’s not easy but you are making a difference in others lives. For what it’s worth, your voice sounds great. 🥰
I think you are amazing. Thank you for sharing your story in such a brave way. You may help so many others who are struggling or nervous about navigating through detransition.
They’ve interviewed people that jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge and miraculously survived. They consistently say that the first thought after jumping was “This was a huge mistake.” Thinking about unaliving yourself is something that happens to human beings in all sorts of circumstances. Thoughts are just thoughts, and they cannot hurt us. I have appreciated your honesty in these videos throughout the years. I pray that God gives you strength and hope and faith. 🙏🏽💖
Do you know how many good therapist got out of the field or lost their job because they knew all along you needed help? I have zero sympathy for you. You got what you asked for. Look at all the kids now who are forced to deal with your stupid pronouns etc.
I've heard the same thing. How scary that must be.
huh? WHo knows what they were thinking....they jumped. Did the ppl who say the jumper was thinking what have I done?
That fall is SO fast and SO scary I dont think they had time to think that. When they looked down and didnt change their mind it was too late.
@@projectbarbi871It's a documentary of people who survived the jump. They were able to say what they were thinking because they lived.
I was in a mental health hospital in a 2 bed room. The person in the other bed was someone who jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge and lived. And yes, they said they don’t know what they were thinking but ut was a huge mistake. They were so happy they survived.
Hey Elle. I am a therapist and so I'm going to do what I would do with any client and take a look at what you said at minute 21:00 "it's just a constant little voice in the back of my head that goes your voice is deep... and people are gonna look at you and... wonder why... people are gonna think it and not say anything... people are wondering why you sound like that... every time your voice goes down into that like rumbly rumbly way it does... they're gonna think that something is wrong with you, that you are lying to everyone about being a woman, that you're just you know putting on a show, and that you'll never be able to relate to real women..."
First of all, you ARE a "real woman" and the fact that you have been injured by irresponsible professionals doesn't change that. Feeling uncomfortable in your body, feeling like you don't really fit in or fit the stereotype of what a woman is supposed to be or how a woman is supposed to behave--all of this is very common! A lot of women feel this way for one reason or another. I felt this way because I grew up fat and had issues related to undiagnosed ADHD. I was also likely on the autism spectrum but had no idea back in those days (I'm 60 now). So the idea that you can't relate to other women because something about you doesn't meet some artificial standard is demonstrably false.
"it's just gonna be like fake like... everyone is putting on a show around me to make me feel normal and comfortable without acknowledging the fact that I sound like a man... so I kind of constantly feel like um everyone is secretly thinking that I am a freak and that I don't belong and that I you know am just putting on the performance of being a woman because I'm not really a woman..."
I think this comes from the gender culture, don't you? You sound here like a man who believes that people are just humoring him and that he doesn't pass as well as he thinks he does. The tendency to worry so much about what everyone else thinks of you is not healthy. As you continue to focus on your mental health, I encourage you to recognize that other people's opinions are much more about them than about you.
I'm not going to lie to you and say that your voice doesn't sound lower than that of most women. Of course it does, but I have heard women who naturally have a deep voice like yours, so it isn't out of the realm of possibility for a woman either. Also, this is not your fault and honestly, every other aspect of your appearance is unambiguously female. Your voice can be very quickly explained (if you want to explain it) by saying, "yeah I took testosterone for awhile but decided it wasn't for me, so I stopped."
Finally, I think you go from "people notice that my voice is deep" to "they think I'm a freak." Do you honestly think that's the conclusion that people automatically come to? Deep voice="freak?" It's ONE ASPECT of your physical being--ONE! Just because we have a characteristic that differs from the norm doesn't make any of us a "freak." If it did, the vast majority would be freakish in one way or another. I know for sure that I would be 🤣
Anyway, sweetheart, I hope that helps. I am on Twitter at @janewitchwoman and provide free support for detransitioners. Please take care of the lovely, unique woman that you are and always will be. ❤❤❤
Thank you for offering to help these poor young people who have been lied to. They should never have had the opportunity to change a perfectly healthy body into something else. We all know that children and young adults often don't perceive life clearly and so they jump on these quick fixes but then have to live with them. My heart goes out to Elle. She is special and beautiful and created uniquely by our heavenly father. I hope she can see that the Lord loves her and He can make all things new. FYI: I have a daughter who has been transitioning for 1.5 years, had a hysterctomy at 25, and has not talked to me in 5 years. I am so brokenhearted. I love her so much but the trans world has stolen her from me. I continue to pray for her and send her notes of love and that I want a relationship with her but she does not respond. She was never this person before. God Bless you or helping these people.
I'm very proud of you and your willingness to share your journey. Thank you for sharing your unique story. Your honesty and vulnerability will help others understand how to support someone who is going through what you are experiencing.
I'm so sorry. Thank you for sharing your journey. Your story matters, you matter.
As a male detransitioner (3 years down the line) I can definitely relate to the feeling of not being able to connect to people. I think that struggle definitely stems from having detransitioned, because it’s such a unique and profound experience that we detransitioners have gone through but that most people have not gone through. I find it easier to relate to people who have had other struggles in life, such as people that overcame different addictions or other things. But even then, it’s like there is something about my view of the human existence that changed after detransition and that new viewpoint is very hard to find in other people…
Honey, everyone has difficulties connecting with others.
@@carwai I’m sure you and many other people have difficulties connecting with others too. Wouldn’t you agree though, that it’s easier to connect with people that you share some experiences with? And some experiences are so profound that it kind of affects most of your communication and view of life. I’m not trying to say that detransitioners are unique and special unicorns in the world, because a lot of people probably feel equally disconnected from everyone else, but for different reasons right. For example I think most immigrants have the same feeling that I was trying to get at in my original comment. Even though an immigrant learn to effectively communicate with the people in their new country by learning their language and culture, they will probably never feel as connected to them as they do to the people of their home country. If they meet another immigrant, they have something profound in common that makes it easier to relate even though they have lived completely different lives otherwise. To have gone through transition and then detransition is inevitably also going to be a very profound experience. It would be strange if it doesn’t affect the way you relate to others. And in a sense it has made me feel like an immigrant in my own country because it’s so rare to find other people with the same experiences.
You look feminine and your voice has no bearing on that. I had friends in the 50s and 60s who had deep voices but we never took any notice, its only in today’s world that people look at others and wonder what they are. You are fit and healthy just live your life and try to be happy in your own skin. I am 72 and my life has been physically tough and I have lost my partner of 40 years in March and I don’t want to go on but I am still here.
@@stephanietaylor1572 He does not look feminine at all. I checked the vids.
That dude lied saying you look feminine.
Elle, I am a mum of a trans identified child. I am deeply worried they will make the wrong choices and may suffer in the future. Your voice is vital to inform parents and vulnerable children of the consequences of inadequate mental health and gender care. Give yourself more time. You are grieving a life lost and that's a big grieve but that lost life is just gateway to a new unique life. A very important life, where you can love and be loved. Where you can make a difference regardless of in the public eye or not. To just one person or many, both are revelent. My words will not help but I mean them sincerely and hope you can come out the other side of your grief soon ❤
She's lucky she didn't go bald. Some lost it for good even after detransitioning.
I don’t know how to articulate this in a gentler way, but your kid knows themself better than you know them. It certainly took a lot of courage for them to come out to you, and it might drive them away if you express your concerns that they might change their mind on their gender identity. You’re a parent so it’s natural you’re worried about them
@@ROYAL_REBELcis men go bald all the damn time, it’s just about genetic predisposition and testosterone. It shouldn’t be an unexpected side-effect, especially if your male relatives are baldies.
@@sanpellegrinolimonata Nope. Kids are kids. Let them decide once they've become adults. You stay out of it.
I wanted to be a boy from 6-17 and then grew out of it after. I still live in my combat boots and still hate dresses & bright colors, or anything girly, but I'm married & I'm a computer programmer now.
Luckily my parents left me be. So no, kids don't know. I've seen too many detranstioners regret their decisions
@@sanpellegrinolimonata We aren't talking about cis men are we. We are talking about this girl, who could've lost her hair due to testosterone therapy. F OFF
I've really listened to you, and I felt you so much, please be strong, lots of love sending your way from Toronto Canada 🇨🇦 🇯🇲 💕
Life is a struggle, and we have to embrace the good things, good people, and celebrations when they come, as well as to ride with the waves of disappointment and despair; the main thing is to believe that the low times are only temporary, and there is still good to come. Never feel guilty about enjoying good times. Don't let bad things define you. It is a rare person that feels like they belong. And Facebook is one of the worst things to happen to society - everyone only posts smiling faces and "successful" lives, making us believe their lives are better than our own. Honesty of people like Elie show life as it really is. Thanks for sharing, and I wish you well. You are a beautiful person, inside and out. Your voice is lovely.
I was born and still am a female. One with a deep voice. Your voice doesn't make you or break you. If you feel sexy, you are sexy. Period. No matter your voice, your gender, no matter what imperfections we all have. I would love to give you a big hug. What you are is a beautiful human. A brave one who is sharing her story so that others can be less alone.
You girls overthink it. Deep voice still sounds feminine and usually it's sexy af.
Thank you for sharing again. Your voice is so important, not the physical voice, the personal voice. You are important.
You are beautiful and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with your voice. Thank you for your openness and honesty it was very enlightening to hear about the difficult journey you are on.
Want to know a secret? Research has shown that people aren't actually thinking about/judging you. They are too busy thinking about themselves. Most of the time, that feeling of judgement is not really coming from other people, but rather from you judging yourself. So, be kind to you, girlfriend. Everyone is struggling. Give yourself some grace (not in a religious way) and know that we're all struggling together. 🫂
You're a child of God, Elle. That's who you are
as an autistic nonbinary person, i feel a lot of the same things you do. I always felt/ feel like I have to perform and make myself more palatable so people will like me, it’s become so hard to really connect with other people because I am so afraid of my authentic self being too much for other people. I also started dating my gf in a few years ago as I was becoming an adult and trying to become my own person but i became very codependent for the same reasons, she was the one person I felt like i didn’t have to perform around and she knew everything about me but didn’t care. Im at a similar place to you now, i don’t feel sad over most of these things everyday anymore and i’ve worked on my codependency but I still just feel like i’m performing and waiting for my life to get better and to be happier…now i’m just trying my best to make each day a little better and praying that one day it does actually get better like everyone says. There are some things I guess we’ll never truly know about how other people perceive us but i’m just trying to take it one day at a time and remember that if sharing parts of myself that are authentic makes someone think less of me, they don’t deserve any more of my time or energy and that can just be that. I’ve enjoyed watching your videos throughout the years and although I’m not in the same position as you as someone who’s detransitioned, I understand you and you’re definitely not alone. ❤️
You aren't non binary. You are your birth sex. Non binary is a made up, religious concept. Embrace your womanhood and watch your life change for the better.
It’s a wonderful feeling if you ever get to the point of it giving a fuck. I don’t mean not caring about people. I don’t meany being nasty, an asshole, not holding yourself to high morals. But dressing for yourself. Cooking what you want, not what you are supposed to. Joining clubs you want or not joining any. Being g a night owl. Rising with the lark. Literally living your authentic life without considering what is going on in anyone’s head. And without being mean, 99.999999% of people don’t even see you, other than avoiding bumping into you in the street or thanking you for holding a door for them. Everyone is deeply in their own head, they don’t have the energy to worry about you. Wishing you all the best.
So heartbreaking! ❤️ I hope you have people in your life now that are encouraging and lift you up.
It has been so long since you posted this that I don't know if you'll be looking at my comment... but I hope you will. Your story is so touching and I am crying my way through this. I can empathize with not feeling like you belong. I wonder... what if... what if it doesn't matter what people think of your deep voice. What if your voice is a badge of honor for making very hard, life-changing decisions to embrace your true self. I see you as really brave. It breaks my heart that for four years, you have not felt comfortable with yourself. Like the "people who live in glass houses should not throw stones" -- who in this world has the right to judge you for your journey?
I've been following you off and on since you began to detransition. I think you are beautiful...and I remember your voice in the beginning videos and to me, your voice now seems perfectly normal as a female voice. I remember when I first heard you, yrs. ago, I was taken aback a "bit"...Now, I truly think you sound like any other female. You have gorgeous hair too. I think you are very pretty and thanks for sharing your life with us. I am an old 50-something woman whose child went down the same path as you. Please keep learning about yourself and moving forward.
Sweet comment.
Hi Elle, I happened across this video today and as Dad of 4 (grown and flown) and a grandpa to 9 (as of last inventory) I will tell you this, I would be proud to call you my daughter. I am definitely NOT an expert on these matters by any strectch. You seem to have a lovely soul. Battered and war-torn, but lovely. I hope you find your happiness. You deserve to be happy. Read that last line again. Say it to yourself everyday. Young people today have it WAY harder than us old folks.
Soooo much information with the price tag of judgement. The world can sure use more beautiful, brave souls like you. I wanted to close by saying something inspirational like "hang in there" or some lame shit like that but...nah. Too cliché. How about...you do what's best for Elle and whatever brings you true happiness. I wish the best for you!
I thought about being a trans man when I was 13-16 years old but never perused it (I had enough issues to deal with.) I’m 23 now and I’ve always had a deeper voice than other women, had a more male or tomboyish way of behaving, etc. I was bullied for having a deep voice and being masculine in school, but that’s just how I am. Honestly, I think if trans stuff was as popular back then as it was now, I would have been accused of being trans. Most people would simply just believe you are a girl with a deeper voice, because you are. There’s nothing wrong with that.
I'm not a detransisioner but I have a lot of your same symptoms. I had major trauma that I was not able to get help with because it was hard to make those connections. Thank you for being so raw and honest.
You’re not a freak. You are exactly who you are supposed to be. 💕
Except drastically modified? She changed who she perfectly was.
@@sandywhat2429 hey guess what? We are all great as we are and everyone changes over their lifetime. People become more athletic or more relaxed, lose weight, gain weight, have babies, age, our bodies - especially as women continue to constantly change throughout our lives. Don’t judge others so harshly as clearly that’s how you are judging yourself and you cannot be happy with such an attitude (or at least others aren’t who are around you).
@@viviennedunbar3374 She’s not a freak, she’s not worthless. She’s as valuable as anyone on this earth.
I reject your armchair analysis of me. Perhaps you projected all that?
She WAS who she was supposed to be. Transitioning is tragic when people realize they’ve made a grave mistake. That’s what many responsible adults in the world are trying to prevent. Surgeons should be held responsible.
It’s going to be a tough road ahead for many of these people. Professionals have tragically failed them.
Making de-transitioning videos are very valuable. Others need to see how this is failing.
I hope she survives and finds peace.
@@sandywhat2429 @viviennedunbar3374 Elle made a mistake. She was misled by her own feelings, her circle of influence, health professionals, the lgbtq+ community, and the media. Surgeons are responsible, but they are not the only ones. People pay these surgeons to perform these surgeries. Even Elle is at fault. Transitioning is tragic and Elle made a mistake, but it wasn't a grave mistake. It did not kill her and she is choosing to never let it kill her, even though it could have. It deeply scarred her. She has to live with the consequences of her actions for the rest of her life, a life she is choosing not to waste. She is grieving who she could have been, but she is using her story of brokenness and healing to hopefully prevent history from repeating in someone else's life. Vivienne, this is not a normal change of the body, nor a healthy one. Bodies change but there is a limit to how healthy one is. Too much weight loss or gain is unhealthy. Doing things to our bodies that's unnatural and damaging should not be accepted and normalized, something the body positivity movement does regularly. Sandy and Jodi, she is not -how- she was, but she can still be -who- she was, just with a bit more maturity, life experience, and mental bruises. She has a deep voice but she's going back to accepting that she is Elle, a beautiful woman. Videos by people detransitioning are amazing and could potentially save other kids and young adults from heading down this path to only more hurt and confusion. Transition is just another false hope given to people who are desperate for fulfillment and peace. Elle is a survivor. I hope she finds peace too.
No, she was born exactly who she was meant to be. But now with all the artificial hormones she’s taken, she’ll never be the same… unfortunately, her health and life are in jeopardy… and clearly her mind. Where were her parents? Why didn’t they get her help when she was struggling?
Also, Elle, take heart in this: you are depressed right now. All of your thoughts and feelings are extremely familiar to me, being someone who has fought chronic depression my whole life. But you will feel good again, I promise. I am so glad you are healing from your wounds but I promise that you will feel good again. A day is not a life. ❤
Thank you for your story! It's so helpful in understanding all of this new issue that is happening for so many. I think we all need help at times and feel abandoned and try to do what we think will help us to feel better. I appreciate your vulnerability in sharing.😊
You’ll one day learn we all have terrible problems and none are better than anyone else.
Your story is one of overcoming. Your life gives encouragement to others because we all secretly worry we’re unlovable.
One day you’ll understand what I’m telling you. You will fully own yourself and understand just how special you really are.
In the meantime, a wonderful podcast I recommend is: Getting to Know Your Bible. We’re each here for a reason.
My SIL is constantly mistaken for a man over the phone, she did not transition. I do not think that your voice is masculine, fwiw. You are a completely normal woman, Elle, you are normal. Give yourself some grace, be patient with yourself. My 20's were a shit show and my 30's were some how even worse, you are in a tremendous period of growth and growth is difficult and painful but you will make it through. Just give yourself some grace.
Stay brave, strong, smart, wonderful and true to your heart Dear Elle💜 You’ve been through a monumental amount in your young life. I’ve always had so much respect for your honesty and integrity since you began sharing here. As a mum of several, 2 of which are going through some of these huge life altering issues and trying to be who they need me to be (lots of self-education!) one of the most difficult part of parenting in my 30 yrs of being a parent.
I hope you are doing well and continue to seek and receive support and help when you need to heal from the many serious pains you’ve experienced in life. You’ll find your groove darlin.💜❤️🩹
I think you have a good testimony to share with others by bringing awareness. Pray about all of the things you’re going through, I know that sounds so simple but there’s a lot of power in prayer. Hang in there!
Thanks for being brave and honest and making this video. I pray all is well with you and you continue to journey to health and wealth. You are beautiful ❤️ You are loved. Your video will help yourself and others. Life is not easy but we have to work at it. No one is perfect. Give yourself grace, grace and more grace.
You are beautiful, to look at and to listen to, and I can't imagine anyone coming across as more authentic and sincere. Thank you for sharing. Time does heal. 💛
I am 5’11” tall. For all of my life I’ve thought people might think I’m a guy because I usually wear jeans a t shirt and tennis shoes. I’m 66 years old and most everyone I know feels uncomfortable about some flaw when being in public or meeting new people. We tend to focus on our differences rather than embracing them as uniqueness. Everyone is totally unique. No two people are the same. We have to stop allowing others to put us in boxes. Be you!! You are beautiful and have a lovely voice. To me it doesn’t sound masculine at all. I’ve always liked deeper feminine voices. It shows strength. Don’t be timid about it. Tell yourself you are perfect the way you are. Everything works good and you are perfect. God gave you special talents to be able to share what’s going on in your life. Thank you for sharing your journey. It’s encouraging to me as my lovely granddaughter is caught in the transgender movement and to hear your story gives me hope she will come out of it as well. Bless you. Keep on learning about yourself and the purpose why you are here. There is a purpose and your real journey is just starting. Blessings to you. May you find true Love, Joy and Peace.
I'm 5'11" as well & although I wear more feminine clothing the last few years, I still have a tendency to go full on tomboy. It makes me feel good. And I really just don't care what anyone thinks. I try to give smiles to people no matter what I'm wearing or where I'm at. I wasn't always confident. I wouldn't go back to Elle's age for anything. I love being 49. ❤😊
I couldn't have said it any better. She is a lovely, seemingly intelligent young woman. I am so happy she is going to counseling to help deal with life. Very inspirational young woman.
Bravo, you are a great person.
We need more people like you to warn others because too many people are forcing to change others because of their own personnal vision or choices. I wish you the best.
I've always had a deeper voice, so don't worry how others perceive you, dear!
You're very courageous & applaud you!❤💕
thank you for being strong enough to be vulnerable. You are so loved and cared for! With each day that goes by, I think you will find that it does get better. Life for anyone/everyone has peaks and valleys. Your voice is beautiful, IMO. Thank you for posting an update!
Having gone through depression and having a deeply dysfunctional relationship with my body: hang in there, girl. Took me a good 8 years before I felt like I was able to truly reconnect with myself physically. 10 years now and I finally feel Whole. Good. Healthy. Do I still struggle with my baggage occasionally? Absolutely. But this is the skin I'm in and I no longer let it rule my thoughts and sense of self. 4 years is a long time to look back on and to live with pain. But it's also a flicker in a lifetime. In another four years, you may look back and barely recognize this phase of your life, as intense as it's been. So just keep chugging. You got this
Thank you for being brave enough to admit it was a bad plan and havingnthe courage to turn it around. Especially sharing your story. It's hard, but you will be blessed in warning others. ❤
Thank you for sharing your story, I value your courage to speak out about it and I’m sure it will be very helpful to others living in such a difficult situation. I respect, admire and appreciate you 🙏👌💗
Sweetie, just so you know, anyone who doesn’t know you would never know or guess your back story. Lots of girls have deep voices and you are gorgeous. YOU know your voice and body are different so you are going to be more critical of yourself. People who don’t know you are just learning about you and you are perfect the way you are. ❤❤❤
Thank you for sharing your story Elle. The biggest lesson you describe is that neither transitioning or detransitioning has helped you to feel happy and that you are still struggling with negative sense of worth, low self-esteem and intrusive thoughts from past trauma. I hope others hear. Because fixation on gender & sexuality is a symptom not the answer.
You're DNA says you are female, you have a female brain (males are different) your voice is very pleasant compared to some female American voices that hurt my ears, I don't mean to offend but it's true! I'm English and have a relatively deep voice for a female!
You have amazing skin and are not afraid to go on camera pretty bare faced without layers of make-up! Natural beauty! You have been through a lot but this is your journey and you are still very young, time is on your side to decide what you would like to do with your life? Build Friendships outside of that community to just be you, the beautiful woman you were always meant to be. ❤
Well said! You are making a positive difference with your video. You’re going to help a lot of people including yourself.
You're very brave and this is a story a lot of us can relate to just in general and I think you could do a lot of good things with your experience by reaching out to vulnerable children who are about to make the same mistakes. You'll find that helping others will help you as well. It's like kicking addiction, you are more apt to listen and able to relate to those who have actually been there and done that as opposed to someone whose never had the experience. Keep your head high, be you, love you and everything else will follow.
Thank you for being honest, Elle.
I remember when your first video popped up. I watch it and was so amazed at what you had been through and what you were about to go through. A very difficult experience you shared with us. You have come so far and keep moving forward. you got this
You are such a courageous young woman! It's beautiful that you are sharing your story. I have no problem with your voice at all! Know you are a gorgeous woman!
Thank you for being honest. I really appreciate you sharing so sincerely about how hard this has been for you, that neither transitioning nor detransitioning is a cure-all. A story like this is more inspiring than one wrapped up in a neat little bow. Still, while your story doesn't have a happy ending now, and maybe it won't anytime soon, I pray you'll keep moving forward and you'll reach a better place. Cheering for you!
I've been watching for a few years. It's so evident you are a gentle, beautiful soul. I am so grateful to you for showing us all that it's ok to NOT understand your gender ...or to change your self perception. It's hard being a human, let alone having all these labels pushed on us. I'm sorry you've had to struggle, but also glad you are doing OK. Keep being you, so honest and kind hearted, introspective. ❤ ALSO you look beautiful! And I love your voice. But then again I've always loved deeper female voices. If you like to sing, rock that shit!!!!
Elle, I've been watching your videos for some time now. For what it's worth: I like your voice exactly as it is, you have a beautiful voice. It is very normal to feel pain and despair at times. It is normal to go through periods where we feel different from others and inauthentic. Little by little, we find our way to mental well-being. You are a beautiful woman, and you look and sound very normal to me.
Thank you, Elle, for being so open with the world about your personal difficulties as a result of transitioning/detransitioning. Parents and friends of kids who think they need to transition can use your story as a stop-and-think cautionary tale. You may play an important part in saving others from the same difficult situation.
You may not feel "authentic", but real authenticity is simply being honest with yourself and others. I think you are authentic in the most essential meaning of the word.
You've been through a very strange and painful adolescence. To unpack that baggage and get the contents cleaned up and put away will take a long time. Four or five years is nothing on that journey.
But what you don't yet know is how a growing maturity, if you keep your mind honest and seeking a healthy and constructive perspective, changes and improves one's ability to cope and eventually flourish. It takes time and it's hard.
Ignore the asses who tear you down. They have problems of their own.
Last, but not least, a person's core identity is not race, sex/gender, or anything else except that person's MIND.
Make it your primary business to seek what is true and to keep your mind on the track of being objective and just. What other people think of you will slowly cease to be of such importance. The confusions of others about your sex will cease to be more than an annoyance. You will connect with others on the basis of mental compatibility. You will find true friends that way.
But building that mental self takes time and patience. You have to give yourself plenty of time to get there. And you have to look in the right place to build that self. You are a mind, above all.
Thank you for sharing your journey with so many. This needs to be talked about.
Thank you for this video. I'm having hard time and can relate to your words and tone. I don't know if this is ever going away. I'm feeling you. You are not alone
You have come a long way in 4 years, I watched your original video back then and seeing this video I can see how far you have come! You are a strong beautiful woman, Best wishes to you❤️❤️
I wish you all the best in your life. Please don't give up on yourself because you're worth it!!!! Happiness is in your destiny just believe it and don't give up on yourself. Blessings 😇
Elle, it took a lot to tell your story. It's encouraging that you see one day you will see yourself outside of the issues you have been dealing with these past several years. The first video of yours that I saw was when you first detransitioned. I'm so glad you have positive influences in your life. Many have had issues with their self esteem throughout the teen and twenties years that are just as difficult, seeming like your under a magnifying glass and that you just want to hide. That happens to so many of us. As you saw at one point, good things do happen. Better things are yet to come.
I'll be praying for you, Elle. You're doing great, especially on days when you feel like you're not. Those are the days that get you closer to happiness. Your feelings are all completely justified and normal. One day at a time. Many women have deeper voices, that doesn't make them any less of a woman. Keep pushing through, you're going to make it. ✝️❤️
Elle, You are a beautiful young woman (even though you have doubts). The strength you have is amazing. From de-transitioning to openly acknowledging your fears and doubts. You're on the right path even though it has rocks and potholes to navigate through. Wishing you all the best. Be safe
You are you. Love you. Society puts so much pressure on identity in all forms and aspects. Constructs fck with the brain and twists our sense of self. Your journey is a tough one and your vulnerability will help others but above all be you because you are wonderful.
Thank you for doing this video, I hope it helps others thinking of or coming out of transition. You are spot on about your mental health and having "traits" of various mental health diagnoses. Know that our brains in normal times mature by the age of 30. Your mind will be especially challenged due to the drugs and steroids but it does not mean you do not have worth. Life is not rosey for everyone and social media is pretty much lies. Give yourself grace and work to find a community that understands you, none of it gets "easier" I think we just grow wiser and figure out what does matter to us. So, my best advice is, focus on what good you have in your life, what brings you joy and makes you happy.
I’m so very proud of you. Your strength is inspirational❤
Silly : proud of somebody who has no link with you.
you’re awesome. thank you for being authentic
Thank you, for such an honest account. And for sharing such personal feelings and experiences with the world. It can’t be easy, but I can only think that it *is* important that people know that you haven’t disappeared into a ‘happily ever after’ bubble. Especially for other people who want to transition before adulthood/at all and that you are doing a great service to share your reality. Even if it makes one person rethink a decision which they think is simpler than it is (I’m not saying your transition was a rash decision - I have no idea).
When you say that you feel like there’s something inauthentic, that you don’t feel like you really connect with people, and you’re putting on a facade, it made me wonder if those kind of feelings were part of what made you want to transition in the first place? You don’t have to answer.
I really wish you well, sincerely, with every aspect of your health and life.
Elle, you are so beautiful, gentle, balanced and wise. You are a star shining for others - both for those of like trauma of brutal agenda and those outside of it. We are all one, and your bravery, grace, maturity and baring your heart are an inspiration to us all. Keep facing and acknowledging the grief. It is sad, tragic and terribly unfair. But, this is the heart of where you will heal and break fort your wings to soar to your happiness. You will. Trust. I am sorry for your pain.
I'm so sorry you've been through this. You are worthy of love.
I feel so much love for you girl! I am not part of the trans or detransitioner community, but I have always followed your journey because I appreciate your honesty and openness. It sounds like a very rough path to follow, but I’m glad that you’re still going.
If it makes you feel any better, my family has mostly deep voiced women(myself included), and I think that most of us have been mistaken for a guy(especially on the phone lol).
Genuinely, if I saw you walking down the street, I wouldn’t look twice. You just look like a normal woman(that sounds rude, but hopefully you catch my drift lol).
Your voice has also lightened a lot(especially in comparison to your older videos). I genuinely don’t think that you sound like a dude at all. You have a deep voice, but it doesn’t sound like a man’s deep voice. It sounds like a woman’s.
You also happen to look a lot like my family lol. You resemble my grandmother and I, and we are gorgeous so that’s further proof that you are too 💅
You might not believe what I just said(you did say that you felt like everyone was putting on show and pretending like they saw you as a woman, so I don’t blame you), but I meant it.
Also(as much as I enjoy your videos, and I am sure that you help many people with them) you mentioned that exiting the trans/detrans community sometimes helps, so I would hope that you would do so(even permanently) if you felt that it would help you.
I cannot relate to most aspects of your story, so I know that my words can only go so far, but I hope that people who are walking the same path as you can find this video, and you guys can share in that experience. It sounds very isolating, even though you are not alone in it.
You’re very strong, and I wish you luck and love! 💛
Every community I ever belonged to turned out to be bad for me. It was only when I realised that I had to navigate life without a community that I started to find my own understanding of myself. Still working on it.
You are so brave!!!!!! God bless you ❤
You are brave and the voice of many more, you have a very important purpose in this life, do not be afraid, it is there where you will find your peace and the true happiness and freedom for which we have been created. You are an example.
Elle, thank you so much for sharing your story! It is so important that this information is out there to hopefully prevent others from following down this part. And your voice is really soothing - you sound like a woman with a deep voice to me. One of my mothers' friends has a naturally deep voice like that. It makes her sound very mysterious :)
I really relate about feeling disconnected and inauthentic. My story is a little different than yours, but I *was* on testosterone for 5 years and it upended my entire life. I often have to remind myself that a lot of weird shit happens to a lot of people and that people have all kinds of voices for all kinds of reasons. Sometimes, people compliment my voice and it upsets me because I don't feel like it's even mine... but then I feel like I have to be grateful that I'm getting a compliment. It's so complicated. I am lucky in that I navigate the world with relative ease and people tend not to question my gender, but I relate to what you said about that little voice-- I do sometimes still over-analyze the things people say to or around me or reactions people have to me, etc. It is exhausting, but not nearly as exhausting as it once was. I have hope for you even if you don't have it for yourself right now. Thanks for sharing so openly.
It sounds like you’re on the path of self discovery and clearing out your root chakra or balancing the sacral energy within you. I know that had to take a lot of courage. So I applaud you for your honesty. Wishing you the best in your healing journey. ❤
I'm so happy for you. I'm sorry you had to go through all of this with transitioning and detransitioning but at least you seem to be very happy in your life now! I wish you luck in your life and God bless you!
I think that most people think and would think how brave you are to make these videos. Your strength and vulnerability is helping to save others. Please know this.
Really glad you shared your story. Anyone looking to transition should watch your video before if only to take a moment to realize how big a step it is. You have an amazing amount of courage with what you have gone true. Btw your voice is fine! I know its easier said but if anyone has a problem with it its their problem. The emotional rollercoaster you have gone thru NO one has a right judge you having not walked in your shoes.
As a woman with a voice similar to yours, I can say that I've had many compliments on it. I'm glad that it has been seen as a strength in adulthood. I tried talking in falsetto when I was younger because I was embarrassed about it. I'm glad that you've come into better head space about all of this. I have great respect for you sharing your experience here!
I'm not sure how old you are now. I had a lot of issues in my 20's & Thirties ( not about gender issues at all). I had a lot of therapy to deal with a dysfunctional childhood. Eventually i found a therapist who helped me deal with the emotional issues from my childhood, including severe depression. I want you to know it can get better, you can overcome these difficult issues. I'm now in my sixties and I'm okay psychologically . You will get better overtime and be able to look back at what a stellar job you have done dealing with your issues. I hope you keep on, keeping on!
You are so very beautiful. Ans your voice is strong, and also beautiful. Femininity has never been as narrow and rigid as society has made it to be. Strong, masculine women are as female as delicate, soft women. Pink has thousands of times and shades. Just as blue does. Just as any color or shape or texture. Don’t ever let someone place you into such a tight space. Keep being brave. Keep being truthful. Keep shining light on this.