Everything Wrong With Eternals In 25 Minutes Or Less
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Eternals is an interesting MCU film, and a little divisive. Some loved it, some hated it. But here's the thing... it does have sins, which is really all we care about here.
Thursday: animated sins from a couple decades ago.
Remember, no movie is without sin. Which movie's sins should we count next?
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Thanos: an alien
Eternals: Told not to interfere in human conflict
Thanos: not human at all
Also, in the comics, Thanos was an Eternal with the Deviant gene so he's technically part Deviant. And Eternals are supposed to fight against Deviants, but the movies had to leave that detail out for some reason.
I'm pretty sure that's also the case in the movie, considering Harry Styles, an eternal, is his brother... which makes their non-interference even more ridiculous
Ajak didn want the emergence to happen, half the opulation being erased means humans are saved, they can continue for a few more centuries
Thanos was a universe-spanning "conflict" that just happened to center around earth - but affect ALL LIVING BEINGS.
So not just the Eternals but the Celestials should be kinda mad about it. Even if they themself are not affected by the stones (just like none of the eternals died which they somehow didn't find weird), Thanos still halfed the progress on all pregnant planets.
ok
“It’s one thing when you can’t aim with a gun. It’s an entirely different thing when you can’t aim with your eyes.” lol this is such a good point. Like surely his eyes can track a moving thing, right?
This is a weird thing in movies in general with eye laser stuff. They never really shoot like it's their eyes but they always seemingly have to "drag" the beam around which makes no sense considering energy has no real weight. I know it looks cool to have this smoldering burn scare in the ground but it still makes no sense and just makes that power more useless than it should be.
@@shinrailp1416 Ive always looked at it as the beams causing his body to tense up. He he is able to see and track as he normally would, but his body/neck tense up resulting in slower movement. Thats the only thing that really would make sense to me
Same thing when Superman has Zod in a headlock in Man of Steel and Zod's eye lasers are SLOWLY tracking toward the family. If he can't move his head, why not just turn his eyes just a little bit???
It's just a stupid limitation on an overpowered ability.
😂😆😅
I watched this movie with my girlfriend and when Ikarus was leaving I went “if he flies into the sun im laughing” and I was right
4:07 It is funny when you realize that out of all the Avenger's Movies, Only Age of Ultron could have counted as a 'Human Conflict' but when you stop and think you will realize that Ultron's Goal made him a Threat to the Eternal's Mission meaning that they had viable reasoning to interfere there as well, Same as with the events of Thor: The Dark World, That wasn't a 'Human Conflict'. Malekith was literally about to succeed in Knull's Ultimate Goal, The Universe's Extinction and return to Darkness.
The rule is more of "Don't get involved if Deviants aren't involved" and NOT "If a conflict count as human conflict you can't interfere, otherwise you can" , DEVIANT is the magic word and not 'human conflict' (that you kept quoting). As explained in the movie every single conflict is needed to progress humanity, sure some of them will shrink the numbers down which is not good for their actual mission THEY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT, but humanity always bounce back as proven by thousands of years of history.
As for the other mcu movies conflicts that you're insisting they should have interfered with, Eternals are just like any other agents, they need an order from higher ups (which in their case, Arishem) to even start taking course to comply, also, they are NOT AN ALL-KNOWING beings just because they are superbeings, they could not have known those threats you've mentioned, sure some of those they can see on the news but they will look for that keyword "deviant" before they will start caring. Even if those extinction threats had became successful, Eternals aren't to blame, you can think of it as outside of their jurisdiction, I think Arishem will just make them start over on another planet again.
This movie really should have been a Disney+ series so they could have built up the characters and fleshed out the story more.
Agreed, but atleast Moon Knight looks promising
@Archerboy79 Having watched all the released episodes of “Moon Knight”, I can confirm that (so far) it is good, unlike “Eternals”.
As someone who really liked it, that was the one thing holding it back. I don't get the hate for it, though. It's definitely not the worst MCU movie, not against Thor 2, Incredible Hulk and the Iron Man sequels.
It was put on Disney + but I agree.
That’s a super good idea!
I feel like the evolved deviant was a real missed opportunity. It would've been interesting if he joined the Eternals to fight Ikaris in the final act instead of just showing up randomly for no real reason
everything in this movie is a missed opportunity. the title should be "eternally wasted potential"
He was trying to fight ikaris but they couldn’t let him because if they defeated him he would have taken his powers
Nah, I prefer useless CGi characters.
Bruh Ikaris is already struggling with 3-4 eternals, how much harder would you want to make it for him
Yeah, I feel like he could have just been cut from the movie entirely and there would be very little change.
I always questioned why she didn't just turn Sprite into an adult size eternal when that could have been a very possible thing to do instead of turning her human and watch her to grow up and die one day if anything it should have been the tech guy that was turned human cuz he's the one of the actual family that's going to eventually die off at some point.
Look.
It's not a well written movie.
I wasn't saying it was a well written movie I just say that they probably could have put slightly more thought into something that is going to affect the rest of the MCU as we know it and was pointing out something I haven't seen people talk about.
she wanted to be human, not just adult
she wanted to live and die
other dude probably wants to stay alive bcus he wants to keep helping humanity grow i'd figure
The one thing I always wondered is, if the Eternals were around long enough to know of Antman, why didn't they think of going to him to get Pim Particles and just make Tiamut smaller and then extract him. Then after taking him far away, re-enlarge Tiamut. That way, Earth wouldn't be destroyed and Tiamut wouldn't have died.
Counter argument,
Celestials can change shape, so why didnt Tiamut shrink itself to exit the planet then reenlarge? Heck, why dont all Celestials do that? Answer is: this movie is not our universe. That means logic isnt going to work the same way.
@@endarus6053counter to your counter argument: Marvel had always tried to make sure logic made sense in the relative kind of way. So you cannot tell me that the writers of this movie were thinking long and hard about this damn plot when you look at it longer
According to the ant man film the pim particle simply shrinks the space between atoms and doesn't change the density. Even though they go on to destroy that idea in their own film, it is stated and thus the density of tiamut combined with a small size would create a black hole
if tiamut shrinks he's gonna leave a big hole in the world.
I think I liked the potential more than the end product. It was like they tried to squish two or three movies into one too-long movie.
You just have bad taste. This movie was concept potential trash
...and actually it could have just been one movie because the rest was just empty plot.
Agreed! The robot 🤖 thing was annoying
@Bryce Nelson It was a push to bring the whole story out (which was also kinda a retrofit) and with so many new character intros it was mashed into a "too long". It would be like putting out a movie with all the avengers if there had never been any individual character origin movies.
@Bryce Nelson So Zack Snyder Eternals?
"Dad, that's Superman."
Poor kid needs glasses, that's clearly Homelander.
Clearly, this is the best comment so far
This comment is so good you get to slap someone
Should've gone to specsavers
Homelander would've been ten times more effective at his job just being himself.
You guys in this comment section are the real heroes.
I can't believe he never sinned that fact that Tiamut's size at the end of the movie would have effectively destroyed the earth, since he was being birthed from the core. Hell, he didn't even have to be that big to destroy it.
"Allowing a man that knows nothing to teach classes!" That one and the Robb/Sersi joke got me good.
Anakin pointed out the problem with sex on sand. It's coarse, and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere.
I literally just defeated him in Lego Star Wars. Fun timing.
@@Dalton_Boardman2000 spoilers. I didn't know you fight Anakin on Mustafar at the end of the episode three portion. Teehee
Aaron and god forbid you use lube
Sand and lube do not mix
Doesn’t stop people from doing it anyway. But I thought of that too 😆
@@Dalton_Boardman2000 "I HAAAAATE YOOOOOOOU"
5:10 I have an explanation for why speedsters are always late. It’s kinda like living close to school. For those who’ve lived close to school or know someone who does you know they’re always a few minutes late because they think they have all the time in the world
Yup!
Exactly
Yeah 😅
Guilty. 😂
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HUMAN CONFLICT when did Thanos the PURPLE Alien planning to wipe out half of life even get considered Human ?
18:42 Actually the snap that brought everyone back was from Hulk/Bruce Banner, a human. And sure other people from other planets helped too but only after the snap. this was mostly the humans doing
Correct. He’s gotten more things wrong about Endgame than the number of sins in most of his videos.
@@summertyme5748 When you watch that many movies you'll probably forget a few facts.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who wanted to see more Makkari in this movie. She is genuinely the most interesting character and literally the only one I felt nervous for, since she was so inconsequential to the plot or finale I really expected her to die just because the writers wanted to show us how serious Ikarus was or something.
Having her be the first deaf actor to appear in the MCU definitely meant they weren't going to carelessly kill her off as that would not have been a good look for them, lolz
Same l loved how they showed her superspeed.
Makkari and Thena were seriously wasted in this movie.
@Yung Murk I doubt her being a different race really matters at all...
@Yung Murk makarri is also a guy in some comics this adaptation of her was good
"Nothing is dumber than Tony Stark inventing time travel overnight"
*proceeds to remind us of when Superman reversed time by flying around the Earth really fast*
Nothing ventured, nothing gained
Flash did the same thing 😂😂
Although it only makes it slightly less bad, he didn't invent it from scratch. He was handed a working example that he only had to replicate and refine.
No one under 30 remembers that : (
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The movie would have had a lot fewer holes in it if they'd gone with the original scenario from the comics: The Celestials simply want to see which group comes out on top, Eternals, Deviants, or baseline humans with the potential for mutation. In the original stories, for example, the Skrulls are an example of the Deviant strain on their world eradicating the baselines and Eternals.
The Eternals explained they couldn't join the fight against Thanos because they're only after Deviants. But anyone who's read the comics knows that Thanos IS a Deviant. And the introduction of his brother, Starfox, at the end, shows that Thanos is different from other Titans, which makes him a Deviant.
Whhhaaaaaat?!
Not a Deviant completely, just a titan with the Deviant gene... Eternals and Deviants were created as early species of humans with the deviants having genetic and cosmetic mutations and weren't as powerful.
The titans were eternals that left earth after a failed Civil War with other eternals. They ended up on Jupiter's moon titan, not an entire other planet called titan and that's where Thanos comes from... he is technically an eternal with the Deviant gene, which is why he's huge and purple, but other titans look like regular humans and some have powers...
I just needed ONE blooper with Robb Stark and Jon Snow turning against Cersei - I mean Sersi! 😂
@@mr.doctor6774 Lmao
Nobody asked - I mean nobody cares - I mean L
Agreed, it would’ve been funny 😂
Hahahaha
How can he talk alot about nothing
Eternals had some interesting characters but I think they could have done more with the storytelling. Maybe they should have made it into a series so that they could have explored the characters better.
The problem was the fact that they took so many different characters, and so many subplots, and overstuffed the movie with so much happening that it makes it very difficult to follow because it's just so messy. The movie barely have any time for the characters to be fleshed out because it was focusing on something else. That's where the movie tanked for the most part. It's just the script went all over the place. It really should've been a miniseries to fleshed then out a lot more
I don’t think Angelina Jolie does TV does she? 🤔
The characters were made by Jack Kirby. They just copy-pastas of other Jack Kirby creations, including JLA and the X-Men. He had no imagination in his later years and only wanted to recreate mythology using cosmic space magic made buy giant guys wearing stupid armor.
Yeah, there was way too much for a single movie. Too many characters, too many subplots, too many side stories, too much stuff that just went nowhere because they had to cram it all in. A 12 episode miniseries would have worked far better. Hell, make it 24 and give it real polish.
Interesting characters? Why are they all mixed races? They’re not supposed to evolve so why did they all evolve differently?
"Druig ex-rock-atchya" made me laugh way too hard 🤣
every time i hear ajax, i immediately say "the name is FRANCIS!" I have to agree with everything he said in this movie. I triggered on most of it myself watching this. It took us two days to force our way through it and the end of the movie was downright horrible, especially when she cut the deviant in half that easily.
@@fiskecahill7471 that's what i always find dumb about these movies. If you were as strong as superman, would you need to learn martial arts? They totally shit on the source material. That deviant, in the comics, is the parent of Thanos. Obviously, that's not possible in this show since thanos was already alive during all of this.
Stop calling me FRANCIS!
Me ☝🏾
When k hear Ajax I picture a large group of hooligans destroying everything because their favorite club won or lose it doesn’t matter cars and glass will be broken fire everywhere fights yeah I hate soccer season
@@LightsOfElberfeld "They totally shit on the source material"
They do that all the time, and the alternative variants of the stories they fart out are terrible.
The only reasoning I can think of to explain it is bypassing copyright on the comic stories so that they do not have to pay royalties to the authors/authors estate when they make these movies.
To say I'm done with it is an understatement, I was flagging after watching Cap America Civil War and then Thor Ragnarok just pushed me over the edge into "I don't give a fcuk" mode.
I feel like Eternals would have worked a lot better as a Disney+ series instead of a single movie. One episode could have been released each week focusing on only one or two characters and slowly build up to their reunion and the reevaluation of the Eternals’ true purpose. I feel like this would’ve been way more interesting, and it would have allowed the audience to get to know (and actually care about) each of the characters.
No shit, Sherlock
They basically did that and it failed. It was called "Inhumans." It wasn't Disney+, but it was a discount X-Men team that they demoted from film to TV show and didn't pan out.
@@mallios13 Inhumans was a shit show from the word go... it was announced as a Movie, then back pedaled into being a Network TV series on the same time table... one of the leads was Nerfed in the first episode because her Powers would have taken up Half+ of the Budget...
This should have been 6? episodes giving us the Character work and setting up the "mystery" with Arishem talking to Ajak and then segueing into a ~100 Minute Movie that Opens with Ikaris killing Ajak... they could have even framed that in such away that she looked like the bad guy and he was feeding her to 'her' minions the Deviants and then he gets the band back together because he didn't count on the Deviants getting the power up.. then we learn the truth
@@gdawg498 says the shit
heck even a split into two movies because all the shows on disney+ are mediocre at best, and garbage at worst, and eternals had some intriguing concepts that couldve been expanded on with two movies
I'm curious, were any of the Eternals victims of Thanos snap? were they all immune to it because they're actually androids? and if so, didn't they find it suspicious that none of their group got snapped?
Don't try to find a plothole in a fucking crater. You have actual gods that are dumb as fuck (The Celestials) and can't create mindless zombies to do their bidding. How can they fuck up twice, with the Deviants and the Eternals? Just don't give them free will idiots. Make them actual robots maybe?
I don't think they were together when the snap happened. There was no way one could know if the other died in snap. And it didn't matter either if they got snapped or not.
@@gladvinjoshy1251 but there were publicly available lists of who got snapped. surely they'd check on each other after the event.
Weren't they living under fake aliases anyway? also even if they went to check in and saw no names, it wouldn't have raised suspicion because they just believed themselves special, but if they actually saw the name of a dead eternal, it wouldve been interesting. But its not like nobody else in the world shares the same name with the eternals. Thena, Makkari, phastos, sersi, all are common names in different part of the world.
@@gladvinjoshy1251 don't think about it, they certainly didn't
15:37 Lmao I love that with this scene, canonically, Ikaris is legally blind and can barely see well enough to aim his eyes at moving objects. Logically explained by a trip too close to the sun
i kind of like that kumails character stayed neutral. at first it was frustrating - i kept expecting him to swoop in and help during the final battle - but after thinking about it, i came around to it. a character was caught between a rock and a hard place, forced to choose between what were essentially his religious beliefs and the love he felt for his family, and he chose BOTH, by way of pacifism and neutrality. and the movie actually stuck to it, despite how easy it would have been to have him show up in the nick of time and take sides (with a quippy one-liner, natch), undercutting his decision completely. the fact that kumail himself has stated he has a lot of problems with religion but is reluctant to turn his back on it completely because of his family, gives it an even deeper throughline. especially given his character is the comic relief. its one of many decisions in the movie that seem odd but also work just for doing something different and a little more deep/interesting than "and then i did a backflip, kicked the bad guy in the head and saved the day."
he was just against actively killing something, as many people are. not to mention, what if this celestial would go on to make a planet better than earth?
the comedy relief character can't do something that isn't commedy. I think they should have chosen a more serious actor. No that the whole thing wouldn't have stunk any way
I like this. Thank you for this comment, it helped me understand :)
Honestly, the Druig/Makkari relationship was so much better than the Sersi/Ikaris "whatthefuckisthisweirdlovehateabandonment?" relationship. So much more fleshed out despite being pushed off as a "side story" of their love developing.
It was also cuter because they're both, outwardly, about 15 so it's like puppy love
makkari is male in the comics (and not deaf), and kro and thena have children together.
@@ryanbarker5217 Well, Makkari wasn't deaf in the movie either, just mute.
@@TechySeven gottem
@@Simpai_v Okay... 🤨
THANK YOU. Your point about why they didn't fight Thanos is the ACTUAL ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION. It literally MAKES NO SENSE for Celestials who need planets with huge populations to nurture their gestating future comrades to allow some jackalope to kill half the life they need in the universe.
Exactly, “we don’t interfere with human conflict” is EXCEPTIONALLY DUMB when Thanos was a UNIVERSAL threat. The Snap affected ALL LIFE in the universe, this isn’t a situation like “why didn’t they stop WW2”, the Snap is far bigger than a human/Earth problem.
Ego the Living assimilating millions of planets, and they all chill like, "There's this dude named Star-Lord who can get rid of him, right? No need to send Eternals on that monster of a planet."
@@karmicrespite5737 thanos being a universal threat was only known to a select few. gamora told thor. banner told the other avengers. nobody else knew about this.
and thanos himself is only on Earth for about 5 minutes and Eternals are scattered across the planet. so even fi they knew about him they never could have gotten there in time.
@@kurtzahringer9750 the argument wasnt weak. it made perfect sense and you know it. your analogy falls completely apart when you realize thanos was only on earth for a hot minutr and eternals were nowhere near him, nor could they have gotten there in time even if they knew about thanos, which they couldnt have. gamora told thor and banner told the avengers. banenr only has this opportunity because thanos told HIM and he miraculously escaped. so how could the eternals have known about this?
it makes perfect sense if you consider that thanos plan is gonna be reversed within 100 years or so. as that is how long imo it would take earth to replenish the losses.
in the eons long lifespan of arishem and the other celestials and eternals, 100 years is a blink of an eye.
furthermore, thanos is probably part of the natural order and that is what theyre really maintaining. the natural order. everything that happens is how its meant to happen. like how the TVA allowed the Avengers to time travel because thye were meant to do that.
I'm gonna say it: Moon Knight coulda been a movie, and this coulda been a series.
Good point
TFATWS also probably would've been better as movie
"Easy for you to say, Switzerland! :) Perfect. This video is ten times better than the actual movie.
Look at Guardians of the Galaxy. It was a relatively obscure property, introducing a ton of new ideas, characters, and locations and it worked. Then again, having a charismatic cast with humor and charm helps. The Eternals... who cares? Jon Snow was the most interesting character and he wasn't one of the Eternals, sidelined for most of the film.
The problem is the size of the team though. The second they talked about having to get the team back together, the writers should have known that it was going to be too much. They thought they might be the next GotG, but they should have known that they had no chance. No amount of action could possibly compensate for the amount of backstory and exposition they tried to cram in.
@Robert Monroe there are no titties in this movie
I wish I liked Guardians. I thought it, its sequel, and its characters all sucked. Overrated
I don't know
@@LucianDevine They basically ran into the exact problem a lot of IPs trying to copy Avengers have run into, in that if you skip over the build-up to the team up and rush to the end product your audience will not be invested in what happens to said team.
Usually I can kinda get the gist of a movie from CinemaSins, but oh my god this movie just keeps going, and keeps introducing things to the point I would need notes to remember who matters and why. Everyone's already said it, this should've been a mini-series, but they dedicated an entire line of action figures for most of the characters as if it was the next big thing. I legitimately don't even know half the characters names or powers.
I wouldn't worry about learning their names. I doubt we'll be seeing them again.
I completely 100% agree
What the hell did I just watch? 🤔
Haha I eben halfway through the video, when I recognised that I cant unterstand shit anymore. Then went to the comments and saw you speaking out of my mind :D
The movie isn’t that hard to keep up with and they don’t keep introducing that much. I was able to keep up just fine. I also like that this one felt different than other MCU movies.
Makkari is the Flash expy.
Ikaris is the Superman expy.
Thena is the Wonder Woman expy.
Sprite is the one that's a kid.
Gilgamesh is the Asian guy.
Kingo is the Indian guy.
That's all I got.
I felt so damn justified at 24:40! Thank you for this!
she did the tree thing because she had the celestial orb thing in her chest. they removed that to make the rings, so now she can't anymore
Thena's madness is part of her power - like a berserker rage - it wasn't meant to foreshadow he holding on to secrets.
I thought it was about them living to long/having to many memories?
@@markbo3251 Okay - fair story point. I was more pointing out if all she did was produce lacy weapons she'd be more boring as a character and less aggressive which is what makes her more effective. Like who wants to see Logan goes to post-anger management?... Wait... now I do...
So it's "part of her strength" but not "a power" so you're right.
It takes ninety minutes to get the team back together and then they completely forgot about Makkari and were surprised to find her on the ship. This means that, had she been literally anywhere else, they were totally fine with letting her be blindsided with an Emergence-inflicted death.
Plot Twist: If they knew where everyone else they met up with was located, presumptively, they knew that Makkari was on the ship.
To me it seemed like they knew she was staying on the ship
1:44 He had a missed opportunity to call them "Discount Justice League"
he also didn't call IKARUS "Discount SUperman" OR "Discount Homelander", did he?
Is it just me or does it seem like the overall quality and cohesiveness of those films just drops into the abyss? I^'m really thankful that at least one universe has it's relative good structure and is big enough to read into it for quite some time.
Shared story telling is hard. What If? Eternals, Black Widow and SpiderMan all fail in no small part because the writers are not versed in the MCU well enough to tell stories that make sense.
My favorite part of The Eternals is when Kingo’s like “nah, I’m not gonna help you guys save the planet” and just leaves lol. If the (other) Eternals hadn’t won, Kingo wouldn’t be dancing around and making anymore Bollywood movies because, y’know, humans would all be dead on account of the Celestial hatching out of our planet, so it doesn’t really make sense that he wouldn’t stay and fight. But, whatever. Movie’s gotta movie, I guess.
The thor following him around as a kid, would've made perfect since seeing as the asgardians made frequent visits to earth and by their and asgardian standards thor is still pretty young
I’m glad somebody pointed this out. I found it disappointing he didn’t realize that.
@@DToomer It's easy to forget honestly, with the retcon from god to alien people probably assume Thor 1 was his first time on earth.
It was stated in the later movies, in loki series and what if... That Thor and loki were on earth for So many times already.
While Marvel can write their Thor as any age they like, if we were to compose Thor's age based on actual anthropology, worship of Thor goes back to Proto-Indo-European peoples, especially if we consider him the same being as the Slavic Perun and Finnish Ukko. This would make Thor at least around 7500+ years old; possibly upwards of at least 11,000 given the first settlers of the Baltic region.
Since Marvel attempts to assert that the Eternals are several millennia old, having inspired world cultures in that time, it would thereby be possible that Thor could be that age or older, having likewise influenced Earth cultures around the Baltic region.
We could also account for time dilation; Thor moves around the cosmos, while the Eternals were parked on Earth. This means that in the roughly 7,000+ years the Eternals were on Earth, Thor could be older than them while he lived roaming the cosmos; the Bifrost apparently supersedes lightspeed, so anyone being transported by it would actually have their aging halted during that process, although naturally the duration of travel isn't very long. If we could count the total amount of time Thor has spent using the Bifrost throughout his whole life, he may have "saved up" some time and thus looks younger than he actually would be.
If he occupies other dimensions, as per the Nine Realms, time may not be relative, further skewing the age between him and those on Earth.
All-in-all, it would make sense for Thor to be much older than them, or at least he would've been influencing Earth before they arrived to it. If Thor were younger than 7,000 years, Scandinavian humans have been worshiping his image for longer than he's been alive, which just doesn't make much sense now.
@@greenman394 "Retcon"
Honestly, the comics didn't truly make them out to be gods. If Thor can get his ass whooped by various mortal beings, he's not very divine. Especially if various mortals can achieve Thor's power by being worthy of lifting his hammer, then getting replicas of their own made. Beta Ray Bill, Eric Masterson, Storm (Ororo Munroe), and now Jane Foster.
Clearly being a "god" in Marvel comics is overrated, they're just powerful humans at the end of the day.
Should have been two films. First being the origin story and the second "getting the band back together". Or even better a series.
Two films? Wasn't it bad enough getting 2 and a half hours of this?
And yet this movie is basically getting the band back together instead of an origin story. It's a sequel to a first movie that hasn't exists yet
@@4deleDaz33m exactly
@@lzbscalle7943 Most viewers complaints about the movie is that scenes are too slow, but the plot moves too fast, and that's because they were trying to compact as much information into every scene in order to keep up with the plot. Both problems could easily be averted if they had made the movie into a mini series (preferably) or at least a trilogy.
24:00 “I think I can make you human”
Wait…what….ah fukit, Feige don’t ever hire a fart-house director again!
yes, because it's certainly just the "arthouse" directors making crappy marvel movies lol
19:02 this is basically optimus prime's monologue about "I have seeeen their capacity for goooood"
8:40-9:03 My personal question is how he was able to fake his own death several times and how he would have made it appear he was just going down the line. Did he have a kid act for him to be his "Son" several times or something? I'm actually really confused by that, in retrospective.
Maybe he kept his family members out of the spotlight
If he just pretends like he's dead for 10 years and then comes back with a birth certificate saying he's the son it'd be pretty hard to tell
Sprite was living with him until recently.
@@Mecharnie_Dobbs ft see ft ft
Sprite
I'll say this like everyone else, it should've been a miniseries to fleshed out the characters more. The entire movie was basically getting the Eternals to reunite with barely any character development whatsoever for them, that's where the movie tanked. So many opportunities just thrown out the window
Nicely stated.
There were so many characters that they all ended up being one dimensional. The gay one, the traumatized one, the deaf one, the kid... all interesting premises if made into a full character.
the plot is so vapid I doubt you could make anyone care for these characters if this crap lasted even longer, regardless of the format change.
@@_korbo_ agreed. Its so incoherent and they couldnt even made me care about the chars.
I wish they could have made it a fun movie at least even if the plot is mediocre.
It should’ve never been made. You want more of this trash to watch? That’s sad
Fun fact, the Deviant actually popped out of the water to say ‘hi’ to the dog.
when Icarus flew to the sun I busted out laughing in the cinema because of how funny that scene was
@18:53 Actually it was the Hulk snap that brought "everyone back" the first time. Starks snap wiped out Thanos and his forces. +1 sin.
I think Ikaris has 2 expressions in the movie- 3 at most
they're ALL one dimensional, save for Druig and Sprite. I FELT those two and their REAL pain.
Gilgamesh and Angelina have NO CHEMISTRY. That duo was so BLAND.
(A guy PUNCHES THINGS? So interesting!)
HA:
THIS MOVIE WAS MADE BY SYNTHETIC BEINGS!
no blood. no passion.
"As thena succumbs to mothers against drunk driving" really got me
In 50 years of my life, this movies was the first time I left the theatre before the movie ended. It was such an incoherent and endless story
It’s always funny to see other series in one series
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What the heck you mean?
I find it fascinating how Icarus flew into the sun like it was kilometres away.
How fast was he flying?
How close is the Marvel universe sun?
How long after was the walk in the park scene?
How close did he get before burning.
If he got really close then I'm sure the Deviants shouldn't have been able to injured him.
Did he see the irony of being called Superman but being killed by the sun?
Sun light takes 7-8 minutes to reach Earth. So anything faster than that is traveling faster then light.
BTw not a physics major but I suspect that if your body can stand travelling faster than light you wont get burn by an ordinary sun.
@@mustavogaia2655 basicly , yea, that speed would burn most things wheile still in the Earths Athmosphere, altho, physicly of faster than light travel is questionable to say the least
In the MCU the Sun is closer to the Earth than it is according to flat earth nutheads.lol
@@Bad_Moon_Rising what
@@spongebobsquarepants2981 Lol google flat Earth model , some of them think the sun and the moon are like 50 miles up andlike the size of texas or some crap. They are nuts.
23:02 Yes I did see this in a theater and yes several people did laugh. Remember - I’m not laughing….you’re laughing.
you know a movie is bad when even the sins session don't get you to laugh.
I totally agree that Kro (Super Deviant) & the Eternals should’ve been working together to stop Tiamut’s emergence, especially since he just absorbed Gilgamesh’s memories.
To be honest the Deviants are not even Deviants - they are just ugly as sin Eternals.
Deviants were never supposed to be immortal, they are like a shape shifting hyper mutated variant of mankind that veers toward darkness rather than light, the polar opposite to the unchanging Eternals who even if killed will be resurrected soon after by The Machine in their original form without any changes worked on them by others.
When the movie deserves more sins than the amount of people snapped away from Thanos in Infinity War.
Heh. True.
It was still a decent movie. With the best action of any Marvel movie so far. But yeah, it's sinful.
@@benapeh854 the best action in the MCU is in Winter Soldier. This is just more CGI mess
It’s not that bad. Like at all. Relax
@@Saint0999 agreed. This movie is mediocre, but not straight up dogshit.
14:14 Blacksmiths would have done their smithing at night if they couldn't do it indoors so that they could see the colour of the glow from the metal better to be able to judge its temperature better. So this is actually accurate.
I suffered through that vid...I can't imagine what you went through to do this. Thanks for taking one for the team...and for the bonus 😀 Rick and Morty ref. Most excellent indeed!
Yeah, this totally should have been a miniseries. 12 episodes at least would have made it much more coherent and less rushed.
Honestly, one of my biggest gripes about Eternals is Kro (I think that's how it's spelled). If him and the rest of the deviants were more developed, he could've been great!
Should've made this movie a show so everyone and everything could be developed.
He's actually Thena's husband in the comics... hence their closeness before killing him
The problem is that he should have been the main villain of the movie or not been on the movie at all.
Is no one gonna talk about those amazing references you make at the end of every EWW Video. Love em
"Eternals, will return.."
"Hahaha, maybe.." nailed it
I'll be honest, I already forgot the Eternals was a movie in the MCU.
No. It wasn't. It will never be acknowledged as an MCU movie.
Terrible movie, terrible cast, terrible everything. Hope the original gets burnt in a gigantic redeeming dumpster fire.
I’ll be honest i forgot it was a movie and not a crap fanfic
@@alexhoffman5277 bruh by that logic every single comic book movie is a fanfic because it’s an original story
@@watcher1245 terrible cast lol it's literally better casting than all guardian of the galaxy
@@afendiseehamzah If your standards are that low... my apologies.
It's sad when a fellow movie viewer has such a bad taste.
Perfect timing, I just watched this movie again a couple of days ago!
So, funny story. I went to the cinema to see this on opening night, and when that enormous text dump at the beginning of the movie happened, I looked down at the shirt I was wearing: "This is a CinemaSins shirt. Reading. (DING)"
I had never felt prouder to be a CinemaSins fan. xD
Lol perfect
Reading this comment. (DING) xD
@@amoc8907 reading this reply. (Ding)
Replying.
*ding*
This comment thread
*ding*
What's an apex predator?
"it's a cheetah when you ask the Mandalorian for a second wish you did not earn"
gold
Post credits “Show me what you goooot!” and “Hey big guy…sun’s getting real low” had me fucking DYING lmao
Wasn't it Hulk who snapped everyone back?
You are correct. It was Professor Hulk who snapped everyone back into existence I distinctly remember the scene of birds and trees reappearing outside the window right after the fact. It's also why he's on the bench for the rest of the movie because his arm is so injured from the impact of the power.
When Iron Man does the snap it's to defeat Thanos and his minions and of course the same power that put the Hulk out of commission is what causes Tony to lose his life
@@OversoulGaming Thanos' arm got f-d up after he killed half the universe
Yes he did
To me Richard Madden doesn't look like Henry Cavill at all. I keep confusing him with a more clean-cut Sebastian Stan. Also I don't get the Thanos excuse because that was NOT a human conflict lol
Madden looks halfway between Stan and Cavill, and would make for a good "Kingdom Come" version of Superman.
tbh I spent half the movie thinking he was Sebastian Stan and wondering why the hell they had the same actor playing two different characters in the marvel universe again
@@alexparra15 did you see Aaron Taylor Johnson is now playing his THIRD superhero??! Kick-Ass / Quicksilver / Kraven The Hunter!
YEEESH. Way to take us out of the movie. "Hey, wasn't he in....."
Should just commit all the way and make "KICK-SILVER KRAVE! The Movie!"
I didn't think he looked like Cavill but now that he mentioned it, HOLY SHIT.. (and SStan too)
@@alexparra15 it's unforgivable that they cast EITHER Game Of Thrones guy (MCU should always cast UNKNOWNS so we believe THAT PERSON IS THE CHARACTER, ala HJ as Wolverine or SL as SHANG-CHI) (RDJr is a clear exception for his special skilset.).......and THEN they don't even make them look DIFFERENT (!!!!).....so it really takes us out of the film (!)......and THEN they put in a "SERSI" TOO!!!!!!!
IMPOSSIBLE!!
@@alexparra15 Oscar Isaac got all EGYPT as APOCALYPSE..... (yuck!)......so Feige said "WHO can we get for this EGYPT stuff in MOON KNIGHT?" and they all said "Oscar Isaac!"
SIGH.
Copycat BS.
This is definitely one of the marvel movies ever made, with some of the ancient myths ever.
This video was on my recommended for several days and i finally got to watch it
14:07, I assume from Druig's perspective it's essentially a suicide mission.
He's been living on Earth for 7000 years at this point, and like some of the others he has developed his own identity and a purpose.
Completing their mission means they get reset and sent to another planet, which means that he, this version of himself, will die.
Which tracks with his character considering how big a deal it was for him for them to suggest Thena getting her mind wiped.
"Why should she trust you? You're asking her to let you erase who she is."
"I don't want to go!"
Exactly what I thought. Because unlike what Sins states here, they do NOT just get 'picked up'. The Eternals are all destroyed with Earth and the humans during the Emergence.
The golden knife at the beginning that seemed to be a very important plot point but never to be seen again
It kinda acts as a minor tie-in to the whole concept of "The Eternals did most of the work in establishing The Cradle of Human Civilization."
Because it became an important archaeological artifact, and otherwise would have only been just yet another of the same-old boring Pre-Civilization Knives.
It was on the digital billboard when we "meet" present day Sersi and literally billed as an artifact that changed the course of human history.
They diagnose Mad Weary for someone talking to god. But they have seen a single example of Mad Weary in a single person. And her symptoms were that she tried to kill everyone else. Sersei possibly had a crazy dream and they diagnose her with Mad Weary. That’s like diagnosing someone with cancer because they sneezed
To be honest, the only thing that I remembered about the movie was that they featured a character played by an Irish actor and was not a stereotype.
One missed sin: Gilgamesh references Laufey (Loki’s frost giant dad) briefly when they go to meet him & Thena, but Sersi stated earlier in the movie they do not ever get involved in conflicts unless the deviants do
This movie reminded me why, when Avengers Endgame happened, I told myself to never expect to ever feel as invested in the MCU again. At least for a while. There are of course except with stories about characters that are already established like Spider-Man, Loki, Wanda, and some that were previously involved but, the whole explanation for why the Eternals haven’t been heard from before in past events is dumb.
You don't think SHANG-CHI might be the BEST MCU yet? (Cap America Winter Soldier and Endgame are my faves probably.....but SC was FLAWLESS........so then how did Feige totally drop the ball with Eternals?? YIKES.)
Somehow the movies I watch when going to theaters is always marvel movies.I don't like them very much,but if feels like I have no choice but to since iam interested in going to theaters and they don't have any interesting movies aside from marvel
I watched this movie yesterday. I thought I was in for a Marvel movie, but what I found was a remake of "General Hospital".
I thought it was "like sands thru the hour glass.....these are the [Eternal] *Days of our Lives!* "
18:43 Ajak watched the tape from the ring 😹😹😹😹
Blade reveal was the most exciting part of the movie lol and the Makari fight scene with iKarus
“Rainbow Chitari” that… is the best way to describe the deviants I have ever heard.
Also, sprite got screwed over being made into the form of a kid. And yet she’s still my favorite character.
Having the Stark boys involved with a character called Sersi is the best part of this movie.
The way you questioned South Dakota was pretty funny😂 I live here and I question why it’s here sometimes too
By this movie logic: Thanos tried to prevent the Emergence from happening and creating the Celestial's, but the Avengers prevented that giving the right population gap for it too happening.....
To quote Deadpool: *That's just lazy writing"
As far as we know currently, Thanos did what he did just because they were too many people and not related to the celestial, although I would not be surprised if that gets ret-conned in the future
Even worse is his brother Eros probably knowing those bad deeds and deciding not to interfere. Heck, a deleted scene shows him present at the wedding of Sersi and Ikaris like WTF.
It made them even more unlikeable, them being aware of these ideologies.
@@funwithtropes69 I need a link or source for that deleted scene, I watched all the ones on Disney+ and it definitely isn’t there
@@RBGolbat, there's an Instagram post with Harry Styles present on the wedding. It's from the actress who played Sprite.
@@funwithtropes69 To be fair that could’ve been an early idea but didn’t make it to the actual screen. If nothing else he could’ve just visiting as well. If it didn’t make it to the actual movie then it doesn’t count as canon.
25:47 - good grief, is that Harry Styles???
“Also, not asking for consent before going ball deep.”
I’m dead 😂💀
You know you're not invested in the story when it reintroduces THREE main characters and you had forgotten they existed.
Also you know it's too long when you're 45 minutes in and hope it's about to finish. I died inside when I paused it and found there was 2 hours left!
you know a movie's gonna suck when the OPENING SCENE is a boring slog!
what a terrifying omen for me in the theater!
Should've been a show. They moved SO FAST through SO MUCH HISTORY. I just couldn't give a crap about anything they wanted me to care about - No time to get invested in anyone.
I think even a show would be bad... it's all so senseless. Every motive is constructed without any logic.
How can a movie be too long and not long enough at the same time? Somehow this movie manages it
The biggest sin is how they have completely rewritten how the Eternals and Deviants are from the comic.
What did they change, out of curiosity
Apparently, the Eternals and Deviants didn't even make sense in the comics because Jack Kirby wanted gods but Marvel wanted him to write the Eternals into Marvel Comics
@@emidal05 in the comics, eternals,deviants, and humans all evolved from a common ancestor under the guidance of the celestials. The deviants want to rule the world and kill all the humans while the eternals are tasked with stopping them. Doesn't sound too much different but the whole celestials being born by planets dying and eternals being constantly mind-wiped bio-robots isn't in the books.
@@setinorris9966 thank you
Two things jumped out at me that should be sinned.
1: How fast is Ikaris that he flew into the sun while the rest of the team was still chit chatting on the beach? With being the most powerful of the Eternals by far, a squadron of Ikaris androids could protect anywhere from anything? Except....
2: If Arashem showed up and took some of the Eternals against their will; why exactly did he lose control of the Deviants? Clearly he can travel the universe instantly AND without effort scoop up his creations without them fighting back, AND take them off to wherever he wants instantly?
"We were instructed not to interfere in any human conflicts."
I guess I just imagined all those times Thanos kept talking about the UNIVERSE.
Never been an eternals fan. That comic was bat shit insane and there was no way in hell they were going to cover it enough to be good in a movie.
Not every comic book property would work as a film or series. Not sure it worked in the comics at all.
have you seen "THE BOYS" yet?
Most insane superhero ANYTHING yet.
Tragic they stuck with the MISLEADING title.
This movie really left me with the big question of "If Thanos wiped out half of the universe's population, would that have included the Celestials? Seems like big grounds to interfere. If not, then perhaps Thanos DIDN'T wipe out half the universe."
And that brings up another point that wasn’t really mentioned. Half of all life in the universe, gone. Ok. Half of every species? Half of every planet? Half of every galaxy? There’s a high likelihood that all life on earth remains exactly the same. Or how about half of earth? Could literally kill all the bugs and not a single human.
@@1_atlas_7 the snap is at random. so its not half of every single species and its only sentient species, not bugs. because only sentient species overuse their natural resources.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 -not to question you too much, cause I honestly don’t know, but what’s the source on that? Wasn’t it said in the MCU that thanos wiped half of all life on earth? Which means all life, not just humans. And considering the only monitor on that that we could possibly have would be humans, it means it wiped half of humanity cause we don’t track anything else that accurately. Yet it still presumably wiped out other life forms that weren’t human, cause they made a big point about a bird being alive. I honestly don’t remember ever seeing a clarification, but I’ll also admit I didn’t look too deeply either.
@@1_atlas_7 it obviously wasnt. or the devastation we see in Endgame would be far worse.
if you kill half of all trees, the earth would slowly fall apart and die.
it also goes against his motivation which was to conserve resources. only sentient life overuse or waste resources.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 -true, just pointing out inconsistencies in the movie at that point. Cause I specifically remember them saying “thanos wiped out half of all life…on earth [/universe]”. But yeah, makes much more sense that it’s just sentient beings.
Cinema Sins gets sinned for having a longer ad at the beginning of this review than the opening logos that it sins in the movies themselves.
Great job as always. Gah even this sins recap was hard to watch, glad I passed on the movie!
I don't mind the Eternals saving humankind with their special artifacts and superpowers, but, once they start playing Phastos and loose with our technology by relegating our televisions back to those large boxes that require antenna reception, that's where I would have to draw the line.
Arishem's teleportation via red-black-worm-hole thingy was all I needed from this movie.
25:22 It's not about the money spideyman, it's about sending a message!
I f*cking died at "Druig ex-rock-atchya" LMFAO
4:23 Every time I hear it, I think “you can’t see Ajax. He got arrested in Central Park in 1979 after he fought some of the baseball furies.”