Hello, we have designed a cable conversion for the Jeep elocker, it is being field tested now, hope to be in production in the new year, thanks. Works great so far!!!
@@TrailTraveler Hi, no not at all, it goes where the magnet is now, run a twist throttle cable to the cab wherever it fits without to much bend, just wind the throttle control out and your all locked up, wind it in and your unlocked, work very smoothly, only 2 moving parts.
I was scheduling a re-gear and am now waiting because of the known issues with this. After all the headaches with my steering, I’ll just keep my 4.10 gears for now. Thanks for the video.
I can confirm it is happening to the 2019 JLU Rubicons....my buddy had the issue about a month ago and it just happened to mine yesterday. The issue is that even if you get the axle replaced under warranty it does not mean that it will not happen again. I got the Z Automotive bypass just in case anyway.
2020 JTR light came on while wheeling seems functional.. going in for lift on Tueaday! Does a lift void warranty? Should I wait? 3" lift going on and 37s
A lift does not void the warranty unless they can prove that a component of the lift caused a failure of something (not bloody likely). I had my issue solved under warranty with a lift and 37s installed.
Thank you this just started on my JTR also. The only issue I have with the replacement axle under warranty is it's my understanding the dealer is installing an axle that can have the same issue in the future being they haven't corrected the issue? Not sure of this is accurate but it's a rumor. I'm probably going to try the harness.
I have a 2020 JT Rubicon. Rear axle replaced at about 9,600 miles under warranty. Fast forward to 15, xxx miles and light coming on again. I ordered the Z Locker OEM yesterday.
Thank you Trail Traveler!! I have a 2018 JKU that the front locker light is now blinking. After getting the run around from my local dealer, I have searched and searched as to why on the interweb. I will be looking into the bypass cable. Thanks again!
@@TrailTraveler no sir, more of a bandaid that masks the issue. Jeep has not redesigned the sensor. I’ll probably do this after the warranty expires. On my 3rd sensor within 22,000 miles
@@KerryGarrison oh yeah, that’s the way to go for sure if you’re out of warranty. It just bothers me that Jeep service keeps getting worse and worse. Why they haven’t corrected this extremely common issue 7 years later is insane and unacceptable. The taser just tells the computer “everything is fine” and doesn’t actually look for the location or position of the locker
Have been to dealership, 3 times for same issue, each time they changed sensor. Days later “Service Axel Locker” light on. Now, dealer says they have solution. Will be “Changing out” front differential, part not in stock and will respond “soon” with estimated time(warranty repair)
thanks for the video man. this just started on my 2020 JT Rubicon. mine is reheated so i don't think jeep will honor the warranty, they already have me a hard time because i have mods on it.
My axel was replaced (18 JLUR) at 13K. At 49k. And again I now have a flashing light and service locker message. The warranty is up in a couple of thousand miles. Then I’ll buy the plug and play option. But for now I’m making them replace the axel again. I use my lockers quite a bit.
😡 My luck! Not even 1 week of owning my 18 JLUR with 41k miles, I get the service axle locker system light. Man, I hope I don’t regret selling my Tacoma OR for this Jeep!!!
Thanks for the video. I have a 2018 and my light just flashed for few seconds last week in 4H and then went away. But I’ll keep an eye out as I’m at 35k miles
3/27/21. 2021 Rubicon 2097 miles. SERVICE AXLE LOCKER SYSTEM. Dealer had it a week. Replaces rear axle and rear actuator. Merging on to the freeway 3 miles from dealer ding ding ding SERVICE AXLE LOCKER SYSTEM. U Turn and it’s back at the dealer. I had it in my possession 15 mins. This is not good. Dana is not playing with FCA and providing the sensor units but forcing FCA to replace the whole axle. Guess the new one is bad too or the front axle.
Thanks for the info, I have a 2018 JLU, I recently changed the front/rear axle shafts, truss welded ,5.13 re -gear and also I'm using Tazer mini , no issues so far, replace whole axle is not an option for me but is good to know about this sensor fix in case is needed
Today my 2018 Jeep Rubicon (43,440 miles) REAR axel light began flashing and the yellow icon came on the dashboard. I was running errands and driving in town 2H gear. My biggest question is it SAFE to drive in a locked position. This is my only mode of transportation with my family. I do not want to put us at any risk.
I have 20plus thousands miles no issues with lockers, but my mpg os dropped to 14.5 mpg. Dealership flashed the pcm. Still having the same problem ⚠️ huh 😕
@@TrailTraveler when I bought it it started off getting 20mpg. Put the tires and lift it went to 17. Then a year later it just suddenly dropped to the 14mpg and I haven't made any changes to my set up. Its going back to the dealership for than and for the stealing box fix
Saw something like this working for the dealer. The reason customers seem to get the run around is because for warranty work there is a protocol that must be followed
My 2018 JLUR has had its rear axle replaced 3 times. Each time fixes the locker light for a few months until I use the lockers again. Very irritating. Warranty or not I’m tired of taking my Rubicon to the dealer multiple times a year to get a new axle…
I have a 2020 JLUR.. 3200 miles on it and the light is on.. I've also re-geared it. Lockers wont work in 4WD but the rear lockers will work in 2WD. Huh??? I'm gonna order the Z locker. I guess I should order two.. Right now the fault is on the rear, I'm sure it won't be long till it moves to the front also.
Same problem on my 2019 JL unlimited Rubicon, 24k miles, Dealer is replacing front axle under warranty, but it's back ordered, must be a larger problem than everyone knows.
Just started on my 2019 Rubicon. Blinking Locker light, now the service light. The wait time is very concerning as I am sitting in Saudi Arabia, got a feeling I will wait a very long time.
4 days ago I installed the z locker oem, (both) and the problem continues. my lockers work perfect but the light keeps on every 30sec. Is there anything else I can do ?
With this fix, does the locker light on the instrument cluster still work, since you are bypassing the sensor I assume it doesnt and so the only indication you have that your locker is locked is "seat of the pants". Is this correct?
Do you have any information on this issue that you can share with me so I can take it to the dealership. That would help a lot when explaining the problem to the dealership.
@TrailTraveler yes I even ordered a mopar sensor kit tried each one 1 by 1 and still no response. My service locker light only activates when I try to engage the lockers on 4low not during start up.
@@ghernandez6457that’s a different issue then. The “common” problem is Service 4WD in 2 wheel drive and the display will show one of the lockers engaged when it isn’t
I have this issue as well on my 2019 rubicon JL that I recently got. I drive it for 5 hours on highway and didn’t seem to be any issues at 70 mph but I cannot take it into the shop for another 2 weeks. Since this is my only vehicle i need it to get around but any advise if I can still drive it safely if not going OFFROAD?
Stay away from mountain freeways as if lockers lock at 65mph and your on a curve, well it could cause loss of control. Mine comes on articulating and shifting D to R and in 4WD and 2WD
Hello, we have designed a cable conversion for the Jeep elocker, it is being field tested now, hope to be in production in the new year, thanks. Works great so far!!!
Is this the same as the Z-Automotive Z-Locker cable?
@@TrailTraveler Hi, no not at all, it goes where the magnet is now, run a twist throttle cable to the cab wherever it fits without to much bend, just wind the throttle control out and your all locked up, wind it in and your unlocked, work very smoothly, only 2 moving parts.
@@bobhunt3197 Ok, so you are changing it from an E-Locker to a Manual Locker?
@@TrailTraveler Yes, cable controlled.
@@bobhunt3197 While I am sure that is a solid solution, I just don't see anyone wanting to be dealing with cables to lock/unlock.
My 2019 just started this two days ago. Thanks again for an informative video!!!
Contact me at kgarrison@gmail.com - you won the tire gauge giveaway!!!
@@TrailTraveler Awesome, thanks will email now.
I was scheduling a re-gear and am now waiting because of the known issues with this. After all the headaches with my steering, I’ll just keep my 4.10 gears for now. Thanks for the video.
I have a 2021 Jeep JLURD and this problem just happened and I have only 30,000 miles.
Better than having 36,001 and being out of warranty
My 2019 Rubi had my rear locker light flashing on the dash. I installed the Zlocker and the problem went away.
That’s what I did after it happened again
I can confirm it is happening to the 2019 JLU Rubicons....my buddy had the issue about a month ago and it just happened to mine yesterday. The issue is that even if you get the axle replaced under warranty it does not mean that it will not happen again. I got the Z Automotive bypass just in case anyway.
I have exactly the same situation as you on a JL Rubicon 2021, this is ridiculous. Thanks for the video
2020 JTR light came on while wheeling seems functional.. going in for lift on Tueaday! Does a lift void warranty? Should I wait? 3" lift going on and 37s
A lift does not void the warranty unless they can prove that a component of the lift caused a failure of something (not bloody likely). I had my issue solved under warranty with a lift and 37s installed.
Thank you this just started on my JTR also. The only issue I have with the replacement axle under warranty is it's my understanding the dealer is installing an axle that can have the same issue in the future being they haven't corrected the issue? Not sure of this is accurate but it's a rumor. I'm probably going to try the harness.
I am having this issue. Wish me luck! 2020 JT Rubicon.
Just came on today on my 2020 jt gladiator
Dealership ordered a new axle. 2 weeks.
FA is buying back my 2018jl rubicon.
I have a 2020 JT Rubicon. Rear axle replaced at about 9,600 miles under warranty. Fast forward to 15, xxx miles and light coming on again. I ordered the Z Locker OEM yesterday.
How does the z locker do? Pros/cons? Does if show up on your cluster when the axle is engaged or do you just have to remember whether it's on or not
Jeep is buying back my 2018JL
Thank you Trail Traveler!! I have a 2018 JKU that the front locker light is now blinking. After getting the run around from my local dealer, I have searched and searched as to why on the interweb. I will be looking into the bypass cable. Thanks again!
Howdy from the future, this is still an unsolved issue in 2024
Problem solved: www.zautomotive.com/product/z_lkr_oem/
@@TrailTraveler no sir, more of a bandaid that masks the issue. Jeep has not redesigned the sensor.
I’ll probably do this after the warranty expires. On my 3rd sensor within 22,000 miles
@@pacu7102 I'm out of warranty so it was a valid solution.
@@KerryGarrison oh yeah, that’s the way to go for sure if you’re out of warranty.
It just bothers me that Jeep service keeps getting worse and worse. Why they haven’t corrected this extremely common issue 7 years later is insane and unacceptable.
The taser just tells the computer “everything is fine” and doesn’t actually look for the location or position of the locker
@@pacu7102 Couldn't agree more. But it is a solution that pretty much every JL Rubicon owner will need to do eventually unfortunately
Have been to dealership, 3 times for same issue, each time they changed sensor. Days later “Service Axel Locker” light on.
Now, dealer says they have solution. Will be “Changing out” front differential, part not in stock and will respond “soon” with estimated time(warranty repair)
Any luck? I'm experiencing this on my 2019 Ram Rebel
thanks for the video man. this just started on my 2020 JT Rubicon. mine is reheated so i don't think jeep will honor the warranty, they already have me a hard time because i have mods on it.
My axel was replaced (18 JLUR) at 13K. At 49k. And again I now have a flashing light and service locker message. The warranty is up in a couple of thousand miles. Then I’ll buy the plug and play option. But for now I’m making them replace the axel again. I use my lockers quite a bit.
Did you hot cover at 49 under the powertrain warranty ? I ask because im under 60k m but over 36k
The fact that is also occurs on the JT's leads me to believe it can and will happen to the newer JLR's as well.
Just not on 2021 models, they already have the new steering box
The video sound is pretty good, beyond my imagination
😡 My luck! Not even 1 week of owning my 18 JLUR with 41k miles, I get the service axle locker system light. Man, I hope I don’t regret selling my Tacoma OR for this Jeep!!!
My 2021 rubicon start doin that
Thanks for the video. I have a 2018 and my light just flashed for few seconds last week in 4H and then went away. But I’ll keep an eye out as I’m at 35k miles
3/27/21. 2021 Rubicon 2097 miles. SERVICE AXLE LOCKER SYSTEM. Dealer had it a week. Replaces rear axle and rear actuator. Merging on to the freeway 3 miles from dealer ding ding ding SERVICE AXLE LOCKER SYSTEM. U Turn and it’s back at the dealer. I had it in my possession 15 mins. This is not good. Dana is not playing with FCA and providing the sensor units but forcing FCA to replace the whole axle. Guess the new one is bad too or the front axle.
Thanks for the info, I have a 2018 JLU, I recently changed the front/rear axle shafts, truss welded ,5.13 re -gear and also I'm using Tazer mini , no issues so far, replace whole axle is not an option for me but is good to know about this sensor fix in case is needed
I have this problem on my 2019 JL now,
Today my 2018 Jeep Rubicon (43,440 miles) REAR axel light began flashing and the yellow icon came on the dashboard. I was running errands and driving in town 2H gear. My biggest question is it SAFE to drive in a locked position. This is my only mode of transportation with my family. I do not want to put us at any risk.
It probably isn’t actually locking, the sensor just thinks it is. If you are under warranty, just have it fixed. If not, get the Z automotive cable.
I have 20plus thousands miles no issues with lockers, but my mpg os dropped to 14.5 mpg. Dealership flashed the pcm. Still having the same problem ⚠️ huh 😕
Do you have larger tires now?
@@TrailTraveler when I bought it it started off getting 20mpg. Put the tires and lift it went to 17. Then a year later it just suddenly dropped to the 14mpg and I haven't made any changes to my set up. Its going back to the dealership for than and for the stealing box fix
Saw something like this working for the dealer. The reason customers seem to get the run around is because for warranty work there is a protocol that must be followed
Buy the harness and install it in the glove box because the day u are out there it’s going to fail……back up always work…
My JLR has 38k. Issue started around 32k
I got axles to sell off of my 2018 jlu rubicon. Maybe I'll get my front sold quickly if they are on backorder.
My 2018 JLUR has had its rear axle replaced 3 times. Each time fixes the locker light for a few months until I use the lockers again. Very irritating. Warranty or not I’m tired of taking my Rubicon to the dealer multiple times a year to get a new axle…
I have a 2020 JLUR.. 3200 miles on it and the light is on.. I've also re-geared it. Lockers wont work in 4WD but the rear lockers will work in 2WD. Huh??? I'm gonna order the Z locker. I guess I should order two.. Right now the fault is on the rear, I'm sure it won't be long till it moves to the front also.
So it looks like 2021 is affected too?
Same problem on my 2019 JL unlimited Rubicon, 24k miles, Dealer is replacing front axle under warranty, but it's back ordered, must be a larger problem than everyone knows.
My basic warranty is done for it but the powertrain still on effect , that should cover my axle right ?
Just started on my 2019 Rubicon. Blinking Locker light, now the service light. The wait time is very concerning as I am sitting in Saudi Arabia, got a feeling I will wait a very long time.
I just bought my 2020 like 4 days go and it has the light on
I bought my JLUR a month ago and I've got the light -.- Taking it to the dealer tmw.
I bought a 2020 wrangler rubicon and the same light is on. Will the Z locker work for a 2020 wrangler rubicon ?
It should, but why not get it fixed under warranty instead of a hack?
4 days ago I installed the z locker oem, (both) and the problem continues. my lockers work perfect but the light keeps on every 30sec. Is there anything else I can do ?
Not sure, I had to have mine looked at and it was a wiring harness the second time
Good info
With this fix, does the locker light on the instrument cluster still work, since you are bypassing the sensor I assume it doesnt and so the only indication you have that your locker is locked is "seat of the pants". Is this correct?
I had my axles replaced so everything was fine. With the Z-Automotive cable, I am not sure, I haven't used one.
Do you have any information on this issue that you can share with me so I can take it to the dealership. That would help a lot when explaining the problem to the dealership.
Ordered the god damned part and it did nothing.
@@ghernandez6457 which part? The Z Automotive?
@TrailTraveler yes I even ordered a mopar sensor kit tried each one 1 by 1 and still no response. My service locker light only activates when I try to engage the lockers on 4low not during start up.
@@ghernandez6457that’s a different issue then. The “common” problem is Service 4WD in 2 wheel drive and the display will show one of the lockers engaged when it isn’t
I have this issue as well on my 2019 rubicon JL that I recently got. I drive it for 5 hours on highway and didn’t seem to be any issues at 70 mph but I cannot take it into the shop for another 2 weeks. Since this is my only vehicle i need it to get around but any advise if I can still drive it safely if not going OFFROAD?
My dealer said mine was safe to drive around so I kept it until the parts arrived and then got a loaner while they are working on mine
Trail Traveler thx for the info and reply!
Stay away from mountain freeways as if lockers lock at 65mph and your on a curve, well it could cause loss of control. Mine comes on articulating and shifting D to R and in 4WD and 2WD
TRADE IT IN
RUGGED DUDE unfortunately, that is financially not an option right now