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Suhr Reactive Load / I. R. - Demo by Simon Gotthelf
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- Опубліковано 19 січ 2019
- REACTIVE LOAD I.R.
EVERYTHING YOU NEED, NOTHING YOU DON’T.
The new Reactive Load I.R. builds upon the legacy of what is already widely regarded as the industry standard for accurate speaker cabinet load replacement: the original Suhr Reactive Load. Reactive Load I.R. incorporates exciting new features to the groundbreaking design of the original Reactive Load - making it the ultimate all-in-one solution for speaker cabinet replacement.
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Best sounding demo of the Suhr Reactive Load IR. Really well done! Much appreciated!
David Kim Thank you very much :)
One minute in I forgot what I was here for, that was some tasty licks and beautiful playing man. Love it!
Xiyu Yang Thanks man 🙏🙏
Excellent demo! I liked that you used a bluesy strat as opposed to higher gain to show how well it sounds and responds to pick dynamics. Subscribed.
Thank you very much. I appreciate it. And that was what I was trying to show so I am glad it works in the video. A lot of videos about impulse responses have really distorted tones (and they can sound great) so I wanted to show that the little but important details like dynamics really shines through the RL too. Cheers
I have to say this demo is great and I just got one of these IR units for xmas. So far, I've tried it with 2 of my amps - vintage 74 Hiwatt DR504 and vintage 63 Fender Blonde Bassman. It does a wonderful job and can't wait to experiment with other IR's.
Thanks man, I am glad you like the video. It is a great tool this RL and I am sure you will get some wonderful tones with such cool amps. Cheers Simon
I am surprised you don’t use more Suhr stuff. Great stuff!
Leonel Hernandez Very true :)
sweet playing!
醬學吉他John's Guitar Thank you :)
Great product. Even better hands. Jesus dude…save some for the rest of us😂
super tasty playing
fantastic
Thank you very much :)
So far the best demo of the Revival Drive as well... IMHO. Hope Suhr is paying well for this :)
Jk Thank you very much. I appreciate it 🙏 Suhr is paying nothing for this video 😊 cheers Simon
Supercool video! How do you managed the different impedance of the Suhr (8ohm) vs Fender Bassman (2 or 4 ohm, I suppose)? Thanx
What about the impedance? :)
Sounds great 👍🏻 great playing as well
Stephen Webb Thanks a lot, Stephen 🙏
Hi, I have a question for you.
I have to connect my amp to the Reactive Load with a speaker cable (the same for an external speaker), but I don't know which specific cable I need to use to connect the loadbox to the sound card with the two outputs (unfiltered or IR).
Could I know which specific cable I have to buy (I will use an Audient ID22)?
Best regards, Francesco
Francesco Paolo Perrini you can use a standard guitar cable for both outputs. It is also possible to use a balanced cable.
You should connect to a Line in on you audio interface (not a mic input)
Cheers Simon
I was finally pushed-off the fence. 👍
GREAT tone and playing
TheSphericalGuy Thanks man :)
@@SimonGotthelfMusic any recommendations for a budget friendly amp that can approximate that kind of tone?
TheSphericalGuy Actually a 50w silverface Bassman can sometimes be found for very little money and they sound great (well, some of them). It doesn´t have to be a vintage Blackface Bassman. In my experience most gain/boost pedals sound great though these fender Bassman amps. Cheers Simon
@@SimonGotthelfMusic thanks man!
Awesome demo, Simon! Can you maybe do some demos with other amps like the Komets?
ihatehume1 Thank you. I probably will. In the video though all the sound examples and the playing after the opening song is with the Komet 29. The song is my Fender Bass,am. Cheers
Can you do a video about stereo effects between the Suhr IR and audio interface?
Maybe test the difference between Ir before or after(in DAW) with the stereo effects.
The Life Of The Garage Guitar Player Good idea. With the Suhr RL.IR you could do easily that. I add effects in my DAW because I like to control the levels when I am mixing. Cheers SImon
@@SimonGotthelfMusic I want to create some sort of wet/dry/wet
Suhr IR and stereo effects panned hard left and right.
Miced up dry cab in the centre.
Should sound OK :)
The Life Of The Garage Guitar Player You can do that easily and it will sound great 😊
Awesome tone.
padraigf76 Thanks man 👍
probably the best solution to just plug & play with a decent yet not too loud miced amp sound at bedroom volume to date, and you don't even need a daw if you have a physical mixer
Very true. And you only need headphones if you just want to practice alone :)
Tones sound good. I'm confused about the IR scrolling at the end though. The different Suhr stock IR's sound EXTREMELY similar. How was this recorded?
Zachary Drummond Hi. The sound clips at the end was recorded with my guitar into a loop pedal into the Bassman amp into the Suhr RL IR. Maybe it sounds more similar because I am playing with a clean sound and distorted sounds would show the differences more clearly. I hear a difference though especially with headphones or studio monitors. Cheers Simon
Amazing job, Simon. Sounds great. Do you notice any sonic difference between the Line output on the RL and the RL IR? They got different impedances. RL is 10k ohms and RL IR is 600ohms. Kind regards.
Hey man. Thanks. I haven’t thought about it at all. Interesting… Cheers Simon
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Have you compared them meanwhile? I would be very interested to know about that too! :) Cheers!
When turning On , i understand the amp
Needs to be connected otherwise it will blow up fuses n shit .. but when ur turning it off and calling it day.. do u turn the box off first or the amp.. and should u let ur amp cool down before reconnecting speakers for next jam
Or...?????
great demo and thanks for taking the time to do it! Can i ask what circuit your bassman is and if you did any mods? It's some of the best tone i've heard!
Thank your for your kind words. I love this Bassman though it now desperately needs a make-over. It is getting tired :) AB165 Circuit, no mods. Cheers Simon
I just wonder for the ouput.
Is it BALANCED cable for the Un-filtered out and UNBALANCED (normal guitar cable) for the IR out?
Thanks,
Dany
How much latency is there with this device? Wondering if it might be more responsive than IR in a DAW.
Ezra Barnett Gildesgame no latency. IR latency in your DAW will depends on audio interface, HD and plug-ins but in any case more latency than this RL IR. Cheers
que timbre sensacional show
there's a lot going on with this device I like. I don't know much about ir stuff. is this also an attenuator for lowering speaker box level and cranking amp? I like the idea of getting to practice with head phones and real amp. currently I don't have a way to do this that appeals to my ear and just learn elec guitar parts on an acoustic or unplugged electric. by the way, sweet playing as usual from you. thanks Simon
Scott Mac Thank you. It is not an attenuator where you can dial the amp in really hot and then lower the volume with the RL for live use. Not without sending the IR signal to a poweramp or monitor. But it is a load box where you can practice using headphones (and record) with the IRs. Cheers Simon
@@SimonGotthelfMusic thanks for all the effort you put into the videos and even taking time to respond to questions. love your feel in your playing. all round, good bloke.
@@MRxr400 You are very welcome. Thanks for your support :)
Hi Simon. Hope everything is going great with you. I just discovered your YT channel and your videos are very impressive. I'm kind of new to home recording. I'm really hoping you'd be willing to do a short video of basic signal flow and gain levels before the signal hits the DAW and computer. No matter what I do , I seem to be creating digital distortion somewhere between my guitar and my computer. Have a great week. 🎸🎸🎸🎸
Rik J. Smith Thank you. Help me spread the word about my channel :)
We want to avoid digital distortion and to do that I always keep the levels well below the cliping point on my interface. Usually I don´t go over minus 6db when I track guitars (or anything else). I want to have enough headroom to mix the track and keep in mind that you can always bump up the gain on the mix if the headroom is there. When I mix I also keep minus 6db for the Master. Cheers Simon
Hello, these clean/crunch tones are those that I like to play! I always find distorted tones examples on web.. thank you very much for your video!! anyway if I like these sounds and If I need a standalone IR reactive load to practice with headphones at home.. what do you suggest between Suhr reactive load IR an Torpedo Captor X? With these clean/crunch sounds for me it's really important to have a realistic feeling between fingers and ears to catch any execution mistake and improve my skills.. thank you very much
Hi. I think you will be happy with either one, depending on the IRs you use.
However you will have more options with the Torpedo X, so I think it it worth looking into. Cheers Simon
Great tones! Where should I put reverb or delay pedals? In front of the amp or between the SUHR IR and the audio interface? Thanks!
If you play with your amp clean you can have them before the amp but is not after the RL is best. Cheers Simon
Have you had any success using headphones with this unit? Im connecting via sennheiser hd280's and am getting quite possibly the worst guitar tone I have ever gotten.
Hi Nick. I am sorry to hear that. In fact I have never used it with headphones myself, so I don´t really know. But I have had same kind of experience with Kemper and other digital gear. Something about connecting headphones directly to the unit is kind of putting your ears right in front of the speaker cone... I don´t know? But I like the Suhr RL very much and use it every day for recording LOUD amps :)
cheers Simon
Hi Simon,
1)in the other Suhr, the simple version, can I add my own IR or not?
2)Or maybe add my IR with an audio interface or daw ?
Cheers!!!
Hi. In the original version (Suhr RL) you need to insert an IR in your DAW (using an IRloader. I use MixIR2 myself). Cheers Simon
Simon,
I notice that I often get a digital artifacty sound occasionally when I record distorted guitar with this thing. I'm not clipping anywhere in the chain (according to the lights on myinterface and the clipping light on the Suhr) so I'm not sure what's happening. Thoughts? I called Suhr and they thought I was just complaining about too much high end but it's not that.
Hi 😊
I have not have any experience like that with the RL or RL.IR
Only great tones.
Sounds like phasing issue or sample rate mismatch or something?
Cheers Simon
Hey man great video 👌 how do u compare it to the Suhr reactive load vs the new one? Is there any difference sounds wise? Thanks im planning to buy the Suhr reactive load, until i see this video
Hi. Sorry about the late reply. No difference in the RL between the two. Only difference is the onboard IRs in the new one (and headphone out and that stuff). Cheers
That Bassman is sweet! Great playing, btw. Can't help but admire your guitar collection :)
Peter Ganev Thanks man :)
Hi Simon, pretty playing!
With the goldtop you added some delay... do you use it with a pedalboard pre-bassman o do you add it generally in the day after recording?
Francesco Paolo Perrini Thank you. Yes I added the H-series analog delay from Waves in mix. I use it alt the time.
I could add delay in front of the Bassman from my pedalboard using the Future Factory Delay. I do that in my 2019 pedalboard video, works great too. Cheers Simon
Great demo! Without the built in IR's, is it exactly the same as the older Suhr Reactive Load tone wise? And do pedals sound ok with it?
kkkfts Yes, the same Unit without the IRs. Pedals in front of an amp you mean? Sure, use your regular amp and pedalboard like always and add the RL.IR and you are good to go 😊
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Thank you
Sounds very nice. How much difference is between the sound of real amp speakers vs Suhr Reactive Load?
Thank you.
Well in many ways it sound the same as if you are mic’ing the cab.
It sounds different from standing in the room with a guitar cabinet. Just because of the air it moves. But in a recording it is just great
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Thank you
Awesome playing and demo! To what type of input in your interface did you connect the un-balanced DI out? To a Hi-Z input or to a TRS line input?
Camilo Giraldo Thank you very much. I am running unbalanced out (but you can run balanced too btw) into a line input on my Apollo interface. I should run balanced into TRS Line in but I just set it up real quick :) I don´t use the Hi-Z input but you can do that too. Cheers
Hi Simon, sounds so good. If you have tried Two-Notes Torpedo Captor X, which one would you say sounds better?
greengo Hi 😊 Thank you 🙏
I have not tried the CaptorX but I have the original captor and it is great too.
Though I still use the original Suhr RL more, I would now go with the captor x because of the many options it has. It is very inventive and affordable IMO. Cheers Simon
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Thanks!
How loud does the unit get? I have Two Notes Captor and the fan and slight sound of the guitar is actually pretty noticeable. Obviously nothing compared to a cranked up into a speaker cab but still kinda annoying.
Keith Saavedra Not very loud at all. I have the Captor too and that fan is much much louder. With the Suhr RL it is not a problem. I have used the original for the past couple of year and it works. Cheers
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Good to know. Thanks for the quick reply
Hi Simon , new sub here , Great channel and content ,This sounds fantastic , if you dont mind me asking , how do you record this gorgeous tone , so this is the bassman through the suhr ir ,, did you record this mono ? or how did you split to a stereo track ?
Ho Charles. Thank you. Happy to have you here 😊
I always record mono, amp into RL and often track the “clean” signal without an IR, so I can insert the best IR when I mix. Not in this track though, I believe I used IR1 in the Suhr RL.ir for this video (a 412 greenback cab if I remember correctly)
The great thing is that you will have zero latency this way. Cheers Simon
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Thank you so much ,, sounds really great
Hey Simon great video! I'm completely new to the world of IRs myself and a little confused. With this, could I crank my Super Reverb to get "that tone/feel" then find an IR that compliments it and run that through headphones or monitors so as not to blow the doors off of my apartment? Or does that require a built in attenuator feature like the Boss Tube Amp Expander or Ox? Cheers!
WillyM415 Yes that is what I do 😊 you have to find the right IR and that can take a little time but it is definetly worth it. The Suhr RL is a load so you don’t need anything else.
If you play it through monitors it will probably sound different from what you are use to from your SR because the speakers and cab is a big part of the sound. But it will be great for recording and it is so much more apartment friendly than the original 😊 cheers
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Hey thanks for the response man. Do you find the one impedance level limiting? I know SRs are sort of an oddball at 2 ohms, while my Princeton Reverb clone is more normal at 8 ohm.
WillyM415 not limiting - most of my amps are 8ohm. However I have just rewired my old Vox to run 8ohms because of RL. But I had to do something anyway because the Vox has no speaker out. It is hardwired inside. Cheers Simon
Sorry if this is a silly question, can you run a preamp straight into this to go to the board?
Cody Carrig I don´t think that would work because you need the powersection of the amp too. Cheers Simon
Hello sir i have analog delay pedals and reverb, do i run it on the amps effects loops will it capture in my daw track?
Yes you can do that and you will record everything like using a mic in front of the cabinet. Another option is to run the effects after the Suhr RL and record the stereo output of the reverb into your DAW. That will be a little more like adding effects in the studio (in the mix). Cheers Simon
Simon Gotthelf Gear Demos thank u , man im on d fence of kemper route or recording my amps this way. Any experience with kemper modelers compare to recording into loadboxes
Hafiz Wahab Both are great. I have a Kemper too and is is great for recording. Not a tube amp but still a great tool. Cheers
But if i use the line6 helix effects or any other device with ir capacity is it enough the standard reactive? Fabio
Fabio L. If you use the Helix effects into the front of an amp you still need the IR version. In the loop you could in theory run from the loop into the Helix and from there to front of house (or studio). But you would miss all the sound coming from the powertubes of you amp, so I would not do that. Cheers
@@SimonGotthelfMusic thank you very much
Fabio L. Ask anytime :)
Thanks Mr Simon! The built in IRs seem to have a strong and present short reverb. Did you add this in post or is do all of the IRs have this effect? It's a little difficult to hear the decay of the guitar signal clearly because of it.
apshinyn Reverb is a plugin (Waves Abbey Road Plate). All IRs are mono close mics. Cheers Simon
Great tones, congratulations! I would like to know which device has the ability to run IRs both in the studio environment and great simulations in the stage environment.
joabe vasconcelos Thank you. The Suhr RL.IR is great for both live and studio and I would also recommend checking out th new Torpedo Captor X that is stereo and hosts longer IRs. Cheers Simon
@@SimonGotthelfMusic , Thanks for the tip!!!
@@SimonGotthelfMusic i love the idea of the captor x in stereo ,, but has many bad reviews on the software crashing and other bugs that scare me a little ,, may i ask your fave ?
@@charlesfitzgerald3201 I don’t have the Captor X, so I can’t tell you about the software.
I have the older TN Captor which is great. I use it like the Suhr RL. Sounds a little different and the fan inside the captor makes a little more noise but not a problem.
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Thank you
Hej Simon, fed demo :) Kan man bruge begge outputs på samme tid, altså med IR og "ren" lyd ?
Soeren Reinholdt Hej Søren. Tak :) Jeps, det kan man. Smart at tracke med no latency og efterfølgende have muligheden for at ændre IR i mix. Mvh Simon
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Hey Simon fedt og tak for svar :)
also, maybe my cheap ass head phones, though the bass is too strong, is there a way to cut?
Scott Mac probably just my mix? 😊 the RL does not have a low cut, but I have not found it to be bass heavy at all... cheers
Are you able to attenuate the speaker out level at all with this?
Andy Holley It is not an attenuator with level control. It will load down your amp without a cab but if you connect a guitar cab to the RL the sound will be the same volume as without the RL. Cheers
What camera and lens do you use to record your videos Simon?
This video is recorded with my new Panasonic GH5 and Panasonic Lumix 12-35 lens. I really like it. Cheers
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Thanks dude. Awesome production.
placidbomb Thanks man 🙏
Suhr owes you a life-debt after this
trahnettilhcs Ha ha okay Thanks... that´s something :) I am very happy you like it. Cheers Simon
Tell us about your Bassman? Sounds Great! Mods? Tubes?
Rusty Milner Thank you. No mods, stock 1965. Tubes are TAD 6L6WGC-STR GE-style and JJ Ecc83 / JJ Ecc81. Cheers
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Thx Simon! Sounds fantastic! One of my favorites on the Tube! Everything you Demo sounds Great!
Oh before I forget, what cab and speakers do you usually mic up for your demos?
Rusty Milner thanks man 🙏 I appreciate that 😊
I have recorded the most with my old Marshall 412 cab. Lately I have used the Komet Ambikab - best cabinet I have ever tried. And then I have a small 112 Marshall with a Scumback M75 speaker. Great little cab. Cheers
How does the Suhr Reactive Load behave with the Bassman. As far as I know the Suhr is 8ohms and the Bassman only has a 4ohm output. With the Reacitive Load IR being active do find it is adding any noise or is it just as quiet as the regular Suhr RL? Thanks!
Eduard Manvelyan My Bassman is 8ohm out so no problem. Other Bassmans I have used have been 8ohm too BTW. And absolutely no noise. Cheers Simon
Love my Suhr Reactive Load, but I wish it would have a speaker load selector so I can use my 68 Fender Vibrolux which is an 4 ohm amp. My amp tech said that is not a good ide to run it at 8 ohm since I usually run the volume at 8. I was hoping the new one would have it like the new Fryette Power load.
George Alayon I agree, have the same problem with my old Vox. It’ running on 16 ohms. Cheers
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Hi Simon.. i'm probably going to look a bit stupid here.. (nothing new) but will this work with my Marshall combo with a 16 Ohm speaker extension?
kubr1ck36 Not stupid at all. It has to be an 8 ohm output so you don’t damage your amp. There is not a 16 ohm version of the Suhr RL. But I would think your amp has an 8 ohm output? Hope this helps 😊Cheers
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Unfortunately i can only see one speaker extension option. But i think i'll talk myself into buying a new amp because this Suhr box looks great. Thanks for taking the time to answer, Simon!! 😎✌️
@@SimonGotthelfMusic The Fender Vibrolux only has a 4 ohm speaker output. I bought a new 68 Vibrolux that was modified by Alessandro who rewired it to a point to point circuit and changed the transformer to the original 68 Vibrolux specs. I use my Fryette Power Station which has ohm selector on input(amp) and output(speaker) when cranking the Vibrolux from 4 to 10.
This does not attenuate right?
Nope. You can record dead silent using this as a load or you can run through it to a cab at full volume (and still record with the DI/IR out ) Cheers Simon
@@SimonGotthelfMusic Got it. Thank you!