DUNE Part 2 Breakdown | Ending Explained, Easter Eggs, Film Analysis, Hidden Details & Book Changes
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- DUNE Part 2 Breakdown | Ending Explained, Easter Eggs, Film Analysis, Hidden Details & Book Changes. We explain Dune Part Two, the ending, Paul, The Atreides, Feyd, Alia, Anya Taylor , Lady Jessica, The Baron, Emperor, Book Differences, easter eggs, references, Arrakis, Dune Messiah, The Deeper Meaning, Spoilers for the future, Chani and a lot more. This Imax extravaganza lives up to the hype and I can't wait to talk about it. The movie stars Timothée Chalamet, Zendaya, Rebecca Ferguson, Josh Brolin, Austin Butler, Florence Pugh, Dave Bautista, Christopher Walken, Léa Seydoux, Stellan Skarsgård, Charlotte Rampling and Javier Bardem.
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Welcome to the Heavy Spoilers show, I'm your host Paul and this video we're breaking down Dune Part Two.
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The movie is packed with hidden details, deeper themes to analyse and lots of changes from the book that I can't wait to talk about.
Since the release of the movie I've read through the book, the recently released graphic novels, gone through messiah and also Children of Dune. Well the audiobook for that last one cos it's rough.
I even bought this paper back collection just for the covers and I've got to Arrakis and got the T-shirt.
I'm obsessed with the Dune-iverse and all the things within it and hopefully this will be the most in-depth breakdown on Dune Part Two.
Until Quinns ideas releases his and completely dumps all over it. However until then I wanna go through the movie scene by scene to talk about everything that you need to know about it. Stop what you're Dune and if you enjoy it please hit the thumbs up. Don't forget to subscribe for videos like this every day.
With that out the way, thank you for clicking this, now let's get into Dune Part 2.
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Now just like the first film we begin with a message before we even get to the studio logos. The initial one discussed dreams being messages from the deep which we've gone over the themes of in our first breakdown. This included theories that it was links to genetic memory and even potentially Leto the second in the future looking back.
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00:02
"I'm your host Paul"
Me: Lisan Al Gaib!!!
Hahahaha
@@heavyspoilers Mahdi!
What do you foresee for us?
Ma ub Paul shows the way
@@MrSiriusABunsubscribing from me in 2 months
Only the true Spoilerlord denies his spoilers
nice little shout out to the quizat haderach himself Quinn's idea 😁
The GOAT
😂😂😂
Lol
@@heavyspoilerslol well he did get a lot of inspiration from cbg19 DanikaXIX
Great to see creators supporting each other’s work 👌
Huge thank you for checking out the video, hope you guys enjoy it
Your videos are great.Lady Jessica is playing Paul
Best 1 hr of my life ngl!! More videos like this please, another paul another lisan al gaib
Been waiting on this breakdown for ages.
Hell yea now I can avoid English homework
@13.38 You say "Blood in the water!"
Cant help but think it as a reference to Don't Flop. @Heavyspoilers 🤣
Defo Big ups Def for that one.💯👊🏽
The Fremen are the deadliest warriors, even beyond the Sardaukar. My own theory is that the Fremen are superior not only because of their planet, but also the psychoactive properties of spice. Imagine a warrior saturated with spice that has a focused speed, reflexes and perhaps even "micro-prescience" during combat with his enemy.
That's my head-canon at least to why they're so superior.
The unsullied of the Dune-iverse 😊
That is true. Spice is a big part of it, how uninhabitable, and the willingness to die for what you believe in. In contrast to the sardukar or harkonnens being forced into service even threatened with death constantly for messing up. It makes for lack of morale, and distrust in your leaders. It is said in the books that the sardukar doubt the emperor because he is such a petty man, always involved in situations that don’t need his involvement because he doesn’t trust anyone and always thinks people are undercutting his power. The sardukar think why should we sacrifice our lives for someone who is such a snake and dishonorable.
plus the fremen live for hundreds of years unless they're killed
People shit on Lynch and the weirding modules but at least it shows that Paul and Jessica brought SOMETHING besides a messianic figure. They entirely omitted teaching the fremen Weirding Way fighting techniques that send them over the edge against Sardaukar
@@treborkroy5280 I look at it like this: those initial Fremen who fought with Paul would’ve watched and taken notice of his moves, learning along the way. Those Fremen would then go on to teach other Fremen, and so on and so on. Remember, it wasn’t just a few days in the timeline. It was several months (although in the books it was even a few years).
38:34 Paul never so much as touches Irulan. He specifically told Chani that she (Emperor’s daughter) will never know his touch, will never share his bed, and will never bare his children…and she never ever did!
He says this later
The callout to Quinn at the beginning was pure class. Love both channels.
Stillgar yelling "dont spit it out!" then yells chakobsa had me rolling! Such a great little detail and many little funny stillgar scenes and lines
1:00:34 you nailed the analysis on this scene imho. Many reviewers missed this I think. In the scene, you can literally hear the ancestral voices saying "Arise Kwisatz Haderach", as if giving him the queue to wake up after Chani did her part
I laughed so hard at that "ancestral voice" plot device they added in these films. Instead of putting in the hard work to weave exposition into the script, lets just write a couple of captain obvious lines to make sure the dummies get what's going on and ooh, let's make it sound like Gollum because why wouldn't the collective sum of the voices of ancestral memories sound like a weird monster.
Just a small detail but paul actually kills feyd with the crysknife that was stabbed into him.
To me it symbolizes he didnt need any underhand tactics to win or lead aswell as not using any words toward the emperor in order to be recognized as the new one
Yeah I think I worded it badly saying it was a hidden one
@@heavyspoilers no worries, great video none the less
Came here to say the same re him using his own crysknife to kill Feyd. Great detail.
He knew it was the only way, the small way through
I still haven't come down from the high of watching this movie . It made me have constant goose bumps from the music alone (thank you Hanz Zimmer!) Bought the early digital copy and already pre ordered the physical copy In a while 😂loved this breakdown so so much Paul!!
Haha yeah I double dipped too, bit gutted it’s not full screen but still looks great. Thanks for the support mate
There were a couple instances that felt lackluster or just complex scenes that truly were tough to match to the screen. With that being said I still greatly enjoyed the movie so very much. Great casting decisions, great portrayal of characters and acting. The score though, I am still blown away myself from some of those tracks. The one bleeding into the credits is absolutely beautiful and I want to find the name of it. The scene after Paul strikes down Feyd. “Lead them to paradise.” Just the implications of that scene and the somber bitter sweet ending was just so amazingly captured. For those that don’t know what’s to come, Dennis really did a good job with setting the mood. For those of us that do know, well the golden path isn’t an easy path to take. Which is why Paul has a much more difficult time coming to terms with what happens when he does rise to power.
Despite the mixed receptions, Messiah is up there as one of my favorite books in the series. Just seeing the rise and then so to speak fall of a character you want to like and root for while also realizing their potential for destruction. Hope they go into detail about the trauma left with those that survived the jihad like in the book.
Apologies for the rambles! Cheers
I somehow found it dissapointing
@peeko_luxx2873 the ending song is called "Kiss The Ring"
@@peeko_luxx2873 _The scene after Paul strikes down Feyd. “Lead them to paradise."_
In Lynch's Dune - it just starts raining. lol. All that was missing was for Princess Irulan to pin medals on everyone except the Wookie. lol.
A lot of people have missed that the first book is about how Paul can't actually affect what happens going forward he can see the different potential outcomes but ultimately he doesn't know which one it will be till he's in the moment. So the whole book is about how you can't avoid your face which is why he's so annoyed at Jessica throughout for not letting him choose his own fate. However it's also due to the fact that he was never meant to be the messiah. He was 1 generation too early and therefore his power was never fully developed. When he sees the golden path he cannot face the steps he needed to take in order to preserve humanity. Leto ii talks about it as he makes the ultimate sacrifice of his humanity to become the worm to ensure that he can keep an eye on the golden path because leto ii actually has the power to see and affect the path unlike Paul.
I disagree. Paul can affect what can happen. He knows all the possible future. He can nudged at key points to push toward the future he thinks is best. He was only a generation too early per the BG planning. He had the full power Leto II had, he just didn't have the will to force the GP on the human race.
@@paultoub8403 With respect, he can't which is one of the big themes. He can tinker round the edges but he's being pushed toward the holy war and either taking the throne or being a martyr. It's a fate vs free will. The more he sees the less choice he has. I can't remember exactly where as I'm rereading the books but he explains that although Paul can see all the threads he doesn't know exactly which one will happen in the moment which is a lot different than him pulling the strings and setting the destination.
@@AllyRowani agree, its explained in the book, he couldnt take the burden
I love the differences in the movie and book. Despite wanting a great movie that sticks to the source material, it’s also nice to see little changes here and there that can leave you thinking and reflecting more on the original work. One thing they barely touched on in the movies(from what I remember, been a minute since I saw part 1), they barely touched on how brilliant Paul already was before he had any contact to the spice. I’m fairly certain they didn’t even mention he was smart enough to become a mentat.
@@peeko_luxx2873 no they didn't I spotted that as well. He was practically a mentat in the books which made him a great strategist under Duncan and guernay. He was just wet behind the ears and an idealist. It slightly annoyed me that they shortened the timescale for him becoming the leader because that timescale of years made more sense that he got the respect of the fremen for the raids he organised. I also think they missed out on highlighting just how good a warrior chani is. The perfect wife for a warrior messiah.
I don't really think it counts as a "hidden knife" in the final duel since it was the knife paul pulled out of his stomach
What I love about you is that you continue to shout out other creators keep the humility coming because you also are a giant among men
In the way I’m too humble
Wow i got goosebumps when the scene with Paul walking was using the Harkonnen throat singing notes. I did not notice that.
Sardaukar had the throat singing
Read Dune decades ago - is my favorite Science Fiction work of all time.
Herbert is one of my favorite Sci Fi authors along with Ursula K. Le Guin and Harlan Ellison.
Denis cinematic version of Dune - is simply a masterpiece. In comparison to the so-so Sci Fi series, and the laughably bad version from Lynch.
Not only is Denis the 1st to successfully visualize Frank Herbert's Universe (the Thopters, the Thumpers, the lazers, crysknives, Harvesters.....the Great Black Sun of Geidi Prime, droool!), but he also understood Herbert's intent and *ongoing evolution of his story.*
[more and more - Herbert subverted hero narrative - more and more - he centered his story around powerful female characters and organizations - ie - the Bene Gesserit)
He is not making a 'copy' of the novels, as a shallow and empty fan service to book readers.
He is creating a unique portrait of Dune, with Herbert as inspiration for his own creativity.
His and Zendaya's version of Chani (which the Incels predictably and laughably complain about because they want that character to be NOTHING but a cheerleader for Mary Sue Paul Atreides), is absolute Genius.
The Chani of Herbert's original work were mired in 60's sexism - she couldn't even pilot a Thopter much less call a worm cuz..you know...girlz. lol.
This Chani is a bad azz Fremen warrior and has her own dreams for her people that do not all revolve around Paul.
Bravo - I hope Zendaya is nominated for an Oscar (I already know Denis will be), and this makes the incels pee themselves....again.
Yeah they nailed it all round, love both the book and movie, the interpretation of the book is amazing, has its ties but feels almost like an alternate timeline that Paul saw
Did it occur to you that there are no heroes in “Dune”, and that Herbert consciously chose to depict none? Herbert’s Dune was not meant to include a positive depiction of ANY social groups living in this entirely undemocratic, unfree, illiberal, highly oppressive, reactionary conservative imperialist society in which power is maintained by manipulation, violence, the hoarding of wealth by an artificially constructed narrative surrounding the alleged “superiority” and “natural rights” of a few aristocratic families, the deliberate suppression of science and technology (to the point that computers themselves are illegal due to how much the ruling class fears the power such technology could bring to the masses) … promotion of ignorance among native populations and rigid hierarchical societies of wealth, breeding regulations, … I could go on and on. The society of Dune is basically a byzantine rigidly hierarchical medieval feudal society like any spoiled entitled arrogant rich pre-modern European or English lord or aristocrat from the 1500s would have been comfortable inhabiting. In fact, such people would thrive in the Dune-iverse better than any modern person would, for the only real technology they’d have to get used to would be space travel. Most everything else is based upon ages old principles, as well as an advanced genetic engineering and eugenics (also familiar to medieval people via animal husbandry) to make a superior SERVANT CLASS, instead of using an open society with freely available technology, they instead manufacture an elaborate system of genetically engineered and socially inferior servants reliant upon their masters for the spice to maintain their existence.
The Dune universe is a nightmare dystopia; there are no “heroes” depicted in it. None. No heroes in the modern, post-1600, post-enlightenment, post-democracy era sense. There aren’t any heroes in “Dune”, or the first two of the canonical sequels that I’m familiar with; the ones Herbert originally intended to round out the story. Dune is a warning and a depiction of a dystopia.
So your criticism of Herbert’s depiction of Chani being due to “60s sexism” misses the mark. The Fremen aren’t heroes. They’re ignorant victims of the Bene Gesserit who have created among them an oppressive religion that keeps them subervient and readily manipulated by the ruling class aristocracy (the “noble houses”) of the Dune universe.
Chani is neither better nor worse in the movie or book for not knowing how to fly a thopter / or knowing how; being less a feminist or more a feminist, since the Fremen aren’t in any way meant to be truly emancipated or emancipatory in either the book of the movie.
They are victims of a conscious, planned, and longstanding program to encourage ignorance among her people. The fact that in the book Herbert shows the women of the Fremen being victims of gender discrimination and inequality is in fact part of Herbert’s plan, since the Fremen themselves are the products of indoctrination from powerful manipulatibe clandestine outsiders. Herbert meant for them to be seen as violent, anti-heroes themselves, since the moment they begin to form some genuine emancipatory economic and egalitarian class consciousness among themselves, first the Bene Geserit twist this powerful self consciousness to their own ends about the coming a “Lisan Al-Gaiib”. Then Paul in a chilling turn (in the movie) stands before them and tells them to disregard everything they’ve believed up to now, even the things he’d told them up to that moment.
He goes full authoritarian dictator in a move not to free them or help the trillions of oppressed common people in the Empire. No … Paul tells them the old rules and customs are no longer necessary… he’s seen the future and it is HIM (and he’ll take them to paradise … an Arrakis covered with water! No one says …. Wait a minute … you’re no going to do that …. The empire runs on spice and this is the only place spice comes from. So … explain how we destroy the source of all the spice again Maud D’ib … and your empire works without it so we can live on a water world here?). Nope … the Fremen are just whipped up into a religious frenzy and he tells them to follow him and do whatever he says. His “great vision of the history and future” is merely how he becomes the autocratic authority at the head of a violent zealous religious army on a jihad that will destroy all opposition so that he personally can rule over the universe.
The fact that Paul chooses to employ their highly refined skills at military violence to take his place at the head of basically an otherwise unchanged empire shows the warning Herbert intended Dune to be.
There’s no heroes here at all. There’s no new world of democracy and more freedom and prosperity for more people. Dune is a highly disturbing dystopian vision that shows how easy it can be to employ a tightly controlled access to technology to create an entirely retrogressive medieval society that can travel among the stars and use advanced biological techniques to manipulate and oppress whole planets full of people and indeed make them so ignorant they aren’t even aware of what is happening to them.
In that they have a lot in common with many that read “Dune” who fail to see it as the through political and social critique of most elements of the “advanced” society Herbert saw around him in the 1950s to 70s, sparing no one from his criticism. It’s a book without any heroes at all, since it’s critique is based upon mid-20th century capitalism fused with the lies European colonizers tell about about their “advanced culture and values” (Christianity starting in the 1400s … through the Enlightenment humanism of the 1600s amd 1700s … up to the “modern democracy” of the 20th century) that are supposed to justify their colonizing efforts and the changes and trouble caused by the economic and political changes that they bring with them.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Dune 2 is great but holy cow you are delusional!
Something you'd like to discuss or are you just frustrated and feel the need to hurl an insult to make yourself feel better?
@@summertyme5748 yes
good thing they got Anya cause god damn there's no one else to look alien like then her extra wide set eyes
Lmao the roast
Damn lol
They aren’t wrong
She beautiful though
@@brentloy131 no she's not that's the point of the joke
It's good to physically see you In these videos Paul! Great breakdown and keep up the good work
Paul didn't have a hidden blade my guy, Feyd knew exactly where it was, he pulled it out of himself. Feyd lost track/got overconfident.
the blade is still in him when he kills feyd. go to 48: 49 of this video and slow it down
@@iluvweezies5688 The gut blade is the one he used.
@@iluvweezies5688Feyds blade is still in his shoulder but Paul uses his own Crysknife which he pulled out his left side...
Genuinely think this is my favourite video of yours, Think I’d watch you do the breakdown of all of the books at this point.
Much appreciated mate, my favourite one to do as well
I love your videos. The “why” from Arnold always kills me haha
Was waiting for this breakdown for a while. Excellent work, Paul. 💪🏻👍🏻
16:45😂😂😂😂💀
Kind of creepy to say
Great vid Paul
Really well made video!!! Keep up the great work man!!!!
Cheers 🍻
ive been waiting for this
It seems to be lost on almost everyone, fans and critics alike that “Dune” and the original trilogy, as well as these two films are all stories without heroes in the modern sense.
The only character in Dune who shows any of the characteristics we’d associate with modern day heroism … fighting for freedom and liberty and sharing power; keeping the best of the traits of his deeply reactionary conservative society, while questioning many of the evil means by which power is enforced within it, is Duke Leto. And for his trouble he is identified as “promising” by the Bene Gesserit but ultimately a disappointment and a failure … and “weak” by the Emperor, who fears his popularity among the weaker houses for his ability to consensus build.
So, basically Leto was murdered and his family and “house” followers were scattered and destroyed was due to his new revolutionary ideas, his egalitarian tendencies, and his desire to build power based upon a more democratic, less rigidly hierarchical world order.
His son of course, rather than following this path perhaps towards overthrowing the emperor in the interests of the new ideas of his father, instead becomes an authoritarian dictator who manipulates the religious credulity of a tribe of simple but incredibly tough and violent people to take power for himself and replace a doddering geriatric empire with one far worse, far more murderous, due to the horrific selfish manipulations and miscalculations of the various groups all vying for tiny incremental improvements to their own power in the existing hierarchy.
That’s why Dune is without a doubt a thoroughly dystopic world, and the Dune novels lack anything like a modern enlightenment era hero as we have come to understand them.
Despite what most fanboys and analysts might think and clearly miss about this series.
Because of the success in these movies, pretty much everyone should know this already, so no, I'm not sure wtf your on about.
People like you are on every video about dune, saying the same thing as if it's deep.
THIS IS SURFACE LEVEL. This should not be eye opening, and I don't think it actually is. It's just people like you who think it is.
This has been done after dune, and should not be a surprise to modern audiences. The biggest example is Attack on Titan's Erin Yeager. The show actually shares a lot of similarities, but it's view of the "hero" is almost exactly like dunes.
Thanx a lot mate, incredible work 👌🏿🔥🔥🔥
Cheers mate
Appreciate you Paul!
I really enjoyed this with my coffee.
Have a good one!
Eric, thank you so much for the years you have given us. The life lessons that come from our favorite films is invaluable. I have always loved your insights and would wait months for more breakdowns. You kill it on your channels and I have nothing but love and respect for you, the deep dive, the break room, and the whole new rockstars crew. Thanks for doing such a great job on my favorite trilogy. PS loved watching jaws with my dad too.
Incredible breakdown (as always) congrats!
Great job with this summary.
Simply exquisite! Amazing work x
Thanks 🙏
Great vid. Thanks for the break down.
What a huge video drop! Love Dune! Love your passion - appreciate you!! I rediscovered Dune via Quinn ❤
Quinn is the best
Great review!
Nice Paul! Enjoyed the video
One of the best you’ve ever done, I dare say. You and MT are taking this channel to new levels.
Thank you mate
I love these long videos ❤
MAN, I congratulate you on this one. Ru, I've already read F Herbert's 6 books twice, I didn't get to his point, I mastered the Weirding Way of the BG that makes you a perfect Feydakin
Addam reshii a-zaanta this Chakobsa quote "Long Live Fighters" from the film and here is the one from the book ... ya hya chouhada
and a wonderful detail is that Lenville's actor, Roger Yuan, is the stunt and fight coordinator
Yessssss been waiting for this one
Awesome review
Great job !
Great content!!
Your camera is a bit over saturated.
Great video ...worth every minute of it.
Means a lot thank you
Incredible job man!!!!
Hey great video. Theres an audio error around 58:55, sounds like you maybe spliced a bit of your narration but it over laps. You repeat "the spark was just there with me"
Thank you mate, can edit that out
Lisan Al Galib!! I love your videos, man!
“So we can zoom in and get close ups on the flaps, & so on and so forth” has got to be my favourite line I’ve heard you speak. 37:52 Definition!
I love a good flaps shot
Them Shai Hulussy flaps
Love this.
this was awesome!
Thank you
I like how you themed the background to the scenes in the movie for example I didn't realize it until the black and white
Has anyone mentioned how cool it was that the Fremen shot missiles at the sandy mountain at Arakeen, causing a sand avalanche which allows the sandworms to travel on the rock, attacking the troops?
Killer breakdown!!
Quinn's Ideas is great for Herbert lore fans. Nice shoutout to him. Never end your rivalry with Ryan. Love the lighting changes throughout the video.
Saving this video for work on Monday, but I’m leaving my like. Love ya Paul, Grace Randolph shouted you out in a recent stream btw, Both you guys are awesome
I read that as leaving my life and was extremely worried for a second
Enjoy mate, I know it’ll probably take people a while to watch so take your time with it. Shoutouts Grace too was really kind of her.
Whats got me about the films is The Fremen can't get rid of The Harkonnen on Arrakis before Paul and Jessica arrive because they are not strong enough fighters but in the book P&J and Gurney teach them The Weirding ways and how to fight like Atreides which makes them the hardest in the Duniverse and why they can then easily defeat the SardauKonnen in the book, in the film it's just coz The Madhi turns up?? Even Stilgar says in the last part of part one, "why didn't you tell us you was a weirding woman and a fighter?" And never hear of The Weirding way ever again!!!"🥴🥴🥴
I seriously thought we'd get a montage of them training Fremen, especially The Fedaykin. Anyway my little Nitpick over. Brilliant breakdown as always Paul.👌🏾
Big ups Def.💯👊🏽
Thank you for this amazing breakdown, Lisan al Gaib. :)
much appreciated
Amazing breakdown buddy, watched it 4 times
Because there is much confusion here in the comment section about the knife fight:
Paul has a knife, Feyd-Rautha has a knife. No hidden blades.
Feyd-Rautha stabs Paul with Paul's own knife, and Paul immediately remembers his earlier vision from the temple in which that blade could be seen for a split second...and it was sticking in someone else in a different angle, the knkfe's handle facing Paul. He clearly put 2 and 2 together, distracted Feyd-Rautha, pulled the blade out and stabbed Feyd-Rautha in the heart. The knife ended up in the Harkonnen psychopath as briefly foreseen by Paul. He did this maneuver by redirecting Feyd-Rautha's own blade into his right shoulder which would not cause a lethal wound.
Again: Feyd-Rautha stabs Paul with Paul's knife. Feyd-Rautha tries to finish Paul with his knife (the Emperor's blade). Paul redirects Feyd-Rautha's blade into his shoulder. Paul pulls out his own knife and stabs Feyd-Rautha to death. The handle of the blade sticks out of Feyd-Rautha as foreseen.
Thank you, Paul! Well done!
epic breakdown. thanks.
Cheers mate
Bravo. What an incredible recap.
Thank you
Thank you so much for this breakdown. It made the movie so much better after watching this video. Your hard work making this video is greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Amazing breakdown mate ❤
From a clear Dune universe lover. Thank you
Much appreciated mate
Awesome vid. Thanks for all the hard work. Lisan Al Gaib!
Thank you
Loved the movie! Fantastic commentary as always, Paul. Regarding how they all got on the worm- I was thinking about that the other day. Maybe one dude gets on it and pulls up to a dune. Then yanks the reigns hard so the worm’s head points up the sky, making it stop while the rest of the folks get on.
Considering a 3rd trip to see this... Will watch this breakdown later on from a comfy spot and immerse myself again.
What a great film, the first dune too. ✌️
in the book, the lead up to when thufir is actually captured is an amazing display of how much the fremen are committed to winning
anyone else remember that part?
with the stolen ornithopter against the sardukar troop ship ... really would have made an amazing scene on film
I was hoping that specific part was going to be shown. Where one fremen dive bombs a sardaukar troop transport
Woah, I HAVE been away & busy. Paul talks to us now? I remember when he was an animation character...time flys ..😊
Great job.
The most important pivots in this film are the moments where key decisions must be made, funnelled by the choices forced upon the characters.
The Council scene is interesting in that Paul must conquer four groups that must align perfectly for them to go up against the Emperor:
1) Fundamentalist fighters - the first fellow who submits.
2) Clergy/elders - the older fellow who "gave water to the dead"
3) Stilgar - who already believes but desires direction and a vision of the future.
4) Gurney - who is ready dedicated but is hesitant as Paul hasn't fully and formally embraced his role as leader/duke just yet.
Paul's newfound prescience tears away his hesitation, and his actions become concise, focused, and forceful, and the attention of his followers are as focused and forceful BECAUSE Paul shows the traits of the leader they were looking for. The prophesies merely made the Fremen a force to content against the emperor...they had to be that way in order to succeed. The prophesies were a long con directed in alignment with the Empire, but it became one that defeated the Empire.
I think it's important to highlight the things that Paula and Jessica DO NOT control:
The Atreides were forced to take Dune.
Paul and Jessica were forced to fight and flee.
Jessica was forced to become the Reverend Mother.
Jessica was forced to drink the Water of Life.
Paul was forced to go south.
Paul was forced to attack the Emperor
So the story isn't just about the dangers of charismatic leaders, it's about the regimes of control that filter people into circumstances beyond their control, where they become forces of their own the no one else can control. At each stage of the winnowing process the capability and danger increases, yet there are guides and stewards at each of those stages engineering the trials they face that enforce these trials thinking they will have a leader they can control in the end.
It's a philosophical dialogue about power and influence.
I just watched a masterpiece wow subscribed for life
Great analysis!! Enjoyed listening to it & I enjoyed the movie as well 😊
Lisan al-gaib! Thanks for the video
It’s great that you mentioned Queen's Ideas ❤❤ we all know the algorithm doesn’t notices him 😂
Maud dib is a sign on one of the moons. Paul saw the mouse right before they confront the fremen for the first time.
Awesome video! Great shout out to Quinn! 😂👍
I will say personally, I feel as though once you get to God-Emperor and it’s finale, do you really start to see just how deeply rooted and integral to the story the prescient powers truly amp up.
Yeah God Emperor is pretty much just a dude narrating plans
Great content but you need to sort out your lighting setup sir
Yeah been trying different setups, difficult to get right but starting to move towards something I’m happy with. Thank you for the feedback.
One of the big differences with the book is that bit mentioned about poisoning the a pre-spice mass (not spice) with the water of life. That became instant plot armor for Paul and he was able to force the guild to turn the other forces away. I like this version more as the nuke threat wasn’t enough to get everyone to just give into Paul and it flows better into the jihad that I assume begins movie 3.
Cheers to everyone involved in producing this breakdown, I thought it was entertaining and comprehensive. I've read the Dune books but several years ago and would never consider myself an expert on the series. I thought the first film was visually stunning and well cast but felt they left out too much world & character building moments that I could easily remember as being important in the novel, the movie felt a little hollow to me. While there were some differences in this second film also this felt like a fuller story, to me this was a big step up from the first movie, excited to see how they tackle Children of Dune/Messiah.
Thanks so much mate, kept feeling bad cos every day I’d send a new massive chunk through to the editors. They killed it though. Also agree with your thoughts, Part 1 was good but not great but I love it due to how good part 2 pays it all off.
28:23 small correction, the word ‘djinn’ is not based off the word ‘genie’ - it’s the other way around. Thanks for the amazing video as always!!
Class video 👍🏿👍🏿
Thank you
That Harkonnen dude barking orders in front of the camera after the Spice Depot attack is my absolute favorite moment in the movie, and I have no idea why. I'd follow that guy anywhere
I haven't loved any new movies in a really long time, I've watched this movie so many times I love these two movies together so much I don't even have words to explain it. I haven't put a new movie in my top five and probably 20 years
This is peak HeavySpoilers humor 😂
Genuinely thought your camera was broken until about 48 minutes in. Well played.
Good stuff
Dude you're masterful at this! Kudos sir, kudos.
Got 20 minutes into this and realized I still had an hour to go. Gotta save this for bed time 😂
Paul...you's a real one. 2 thumbs up!!!
I just love it when my favorite creators shout each other out!
The sound on this vid is too loud or something compared to your normal vids. But i still enjoyed it and appreciate you doing it
Incorrect
Love the Quinn's Ideas shout out!!!!!!
That was the most detailed review I’ve ever listen to. I’ve also read those books. You did an amazing job.
Thank you
9:25 I wondered if this was a deliberate call back with the circular door opening to the atomics, I thought it harked back to the eclipse?
Loved this breakdown video so much. It gave me a greater understanding of the movie, which I appreciate. I loved the movie, but your video really highlights all the important things. Love your channel. Always look forward to your breakdowns. Thank you 😊
Glad it was helpful!
Paul AND Quinn?!?! This is perfect. Two of the best in the biz!
Just purchased Dune 2. I’m in Mexico currently and missed the English language theatrical release in my city. As a multi-time reader of the books I wasn’t a huge fan of part 1… hopefully part 2 is 🔥🔥🔥
Yeah I was a bit mixed on part 1 at first, grew on me and I really like it now but part 2 out the gate is incredible
Part 2 is like …. You have to experience it.
There's also a courtship ritual here on Earth, where you accidentally drop the soap in the common shower.
I thought the Djin warning was because due to eating spice and the bene gesseret being there for centuries some Fremen may possess prescence. So some may have seen past lives in the desert and got freaked out.
Just superstition
@@treborkroy5280 Ha!
@@KMHSeattle I'm sorry are you saying the djin spirits are real? The scene was literally Stilgar telling Paul advice from real dangers like centipedes and spiders and also superstitious nonsense like desert spirits. Showing they (fremen) are both practical and pragmatic but also very religious and can believe utter ridiculous things like that. Like also believing in messianic prophecies, get it?