Blame the SEC and Big Ten if Private Equity Kills College Football
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Many people are pointing the finger at the Big 12 for potentially introducing private equity to college football, but the real blame lies with the SEC and Big Ten.
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Blame the self sustaining conferences for the financial instability of the others.
Weak sauce.
Yup, this guy's such a victim.
You know - you really should put the blame where it truly belongs - ESPN for starting the realignment forest fire in the first place.
So tired of the SEC & B1G being blamed. It's an old & tiresome storyline by the Big XII's whiners.
The big 12 is still a autonomous conference.. try being a fan of a non A5 team. The big 12 doesn’t have to sale its soul. It’s a choice
.... to sell ....
Nope. The blame lies at the feet of ESPN. They’ve created this.
And Fox, and NBC, and.....head in sand brought forth NIL, unwilling to fight against popular ideas brought the transfer portal, and TV brought the $ and the hammer.
How about "The Pop Tart 12"?????? :)
As a WVU fan I have been dealing with these issues since the ACC (with input from Disney sports) raided the Big East in 2004.
Amen! (WVU fan here as well)
@@ThatGuyz82 ACC regrets that to this day....Miami is a disappointment and VT has not been as highly ranked. Spread the money to the north and got little return.
Indiana Purdue just sitting back collecting $$$$$
Vanderbilt
Amen, the No.1 reason for the death of College football is Television, ESPN & FOX. Yeah you can add sec & b1g too, but it all boils down to tv money, plan & simple.
Or that certain teams are have succeeded in promoting themselves better than others.
Someone is going to come in second, someone is going to come in third, someone is going to come in last. Necessity is the mother of invention, and private equity is a possible next step. The Big 12 is going to have to get creative.
The best thing the Big 12 has going for it is that no one wants their schools . . . YET! That creates stability . . . for now.
John: the posts that suggest Private Capital has destroyed everything it’s touched is simply an intellectually deficient argument. Consumers are already happily purchasing products and services started and funded by Private Capital for decades and frankly centuries. Vanderbilt didn’t build the railroads by himself, Rockefeller didn’t fund the oil boom by himself and so on and so on. Costco wasn’t funded and built by itself, same with Amazon, EBay, McDonslds, Burger King, Hersheys Chocolate, Birdseye frozen food and countless other entities we all enjoy in our every day lives.
People commenting based upon a political slant engrained in them from their media biases/preferences as opposed to actually being educated on said topics.
SMH… that’s America today.
Thus loses solely at the feet of ESPN/Fox/CBS/NBC.
Not all are good capitol. Private Capital is okay, but Private equity is the key word here. That is different from private capital. The Private Equity firms are more like loan sharks and are predators. Oklahoma State, Louisville, Memphis and Boise State have private capital donors that bankrolled their football teams. Oklahoma State from T Boone Pickett's family. They are trying to buy themselves into the SEC. Louisville have Kroger grocery stores backing them. Memphis have FedEX who did after the Big 12 money for FedEx sponsorship for the championship game in football if they invited Memphis which the Big 12 did not. Major mistake there on the Big 12 part which could have added more millions into the pot. Boise State is funded by the donations of the family who founded the Albertsons grocery store name. Albertsons and Kroger have merged. That makes Boise State and Louisville related schools by the donors from corporate sponsors.
B1G would invite big 12 schools before they were passed up in revenue. I could see TCU getting an invite.
All BS! Nothing is going to kill College Football. The Big will choose it's own future, and that choice will be made freely.
What we are looking at here is the reality of a free market. The metrics of the Big schools is second tier. It is just a fact. So their finance options are commensurate with their tier. If the Big chooses to attempt to compete with the tier one leagues there will be a price paid for that choice.
Personally, I wish they would accept their tier and be the KING of it.
They should change the name of the conference from the Big 12 to the Big Mad.
Ur retarded.
Oklahoma State have the T Boone Pickett oil money and look where they are at? Memphis have the backing of FedEX, and FedEx offered the Big 12 money to sponsor the Big 12 Championship games if they invited Memphis in. FedEx could take that money and offer ACC money to sponsor their championship game if they invite Memphis at a reduce rate which would give the ACC more money to play with. Boise State does have the backing of the Albertsons family who the grocery store chain was founded by The Albertsons family. Boise State and Louisville will be sister universities since Kroger and Albertsons are merging. Louisville could ask the ACC to bring them in as will to infuse the Albertsons money into the conference as well. Big 12 made a mistake not inviting those Boise State and Memphis into the conference because they have two national corporations backing them. I blame the presidents for not acting on those two schools when they invited the other 4.
Oklahoma State got all of that money before it was legal to pay players. If they had been able to use that money to pay players rather than build a new stadium, they would have bought every player they wanted. College football is now professional. That means the players are going to go where the money is. The days of tradition and fan base and location mattering are over. The teams that win are going to be the teams that have the most money and coaching staffs competent enough to use that money. Yeah, money isn't everything. You still have to have a good coach or you end up being Texas A&M. Money and coaching are now the only thing that matters.
No the SEC and Big Ten arent forcing the Big 12 to pretend to be major college football.
The Big 12 is a mid-major now, talking out loans to pretend you're not is foolish
THIS! The Big 12 trying to keep up with the Joneses is the problem. It has nothing to do with the P2.
Sounds like a BIG12 crybaby. The SEC and B1G are going to pick who they want out of the ACC & BIG12, BIG12 will merge with what is left of the ACC to form Division 1B. Problem BIG12/ACC have is there is not a 3rd primary sports network to promote them. Yes SEC has ESPN and B1G has Fox. This is just how it is. Your hope is B1G or SEC wants one of your teams.
I think it will be funny when the B10 and SEC fans are laughing at the B12 then break their neck asking, "we did what?!?" The B10 and SEC will follows suit and sell off their naming rights if the money's right. Think it won't happen?!? Why not?
Money is money and the B10 and SEC do like their money. But, who doesn't?
Private equity has worked wonders for some soccer clubs, turning Manchester City from nothing to the most elite club in England. There is simply no truth to the claim that private equity "doesn't work for anybody."
You’re comparing apples and oranges.
@@michaelpeck1346 why? College football is a professional sport now. It is a fair analogy
You are kidding right ? The Big 12 is trying to sell their freaking name and you wanna cry about the SEC & Big Ten ?
The bottom line is this, John ... When the SEC & Big Ten turn their attention back to the Big 12 you guys will crumble like the PAC 12 and like the ACC is about to do.
The left overs in the Big 12 & ACC will get pushed down into a new version of 1-AA.
I hate it for teams like Kansas St and WVU... good programs that will be left out. Bottom line it's going to happen eventually
To the fans of the "smaller brand teams". YOU may be a diehard fan that cares about your team and college football, but your team's college administration doesn't. If it did, then your team would have more money for it's football program and your team would be good. And since your boosters don't donate to their athletic program as much as other schools, that just means that even your alumni don't care much for your teams football program either. Which means there aren't as many diehards like you for your team.
Oklahoma State, Memphis and Boise State all have big corporate donors who cared for the football teams and all three got the shaft. Memphis with the FedEx and Boise State have the Albertsons and Oklahoma State of the T Boone Pickett oil money could help conferences out if they were being added. Money seems to be not important enough to even buy your way in anymore.
@@Spitfirethedragon, corporate donors donate to the school, not the athletic program. It's the school that determines which programs get that money.
@@metallica1fan1 Actually, what I mentioned is an example of money donated to help build the football stadiums and all that for football and men's basketball. All 4 got the money from corporate icons who support those schools in the sports mainly football.
@@Spitfirethedragon, Stadiums don't improve a terrible teams, and won't really do anything for recruiting either. If your coaches, coordinaters, and team sucks and has a losing record then no one with talent will want to go, or stay. Also, the transfer portal is where it's at now rather than recruiting. And, a new stadium won't attract those from the transfer portal. Plus there is NIL.
@@metallica1fan1 Boise State and Memphis have not suck. Boise State since 2000 is ranked number 5 of FBS with the most wins. They are better with the win lost totals than all of the Big 12..
BTW: throw in Ford, GM & Tesla as companies also funded by Private Capital.
Where does it say that the Big 12 must sell itself to private equity. This pollyanna - "they made me do it" is just the wrong way to view this.
The choice is go along with the changes the SEC/B1G just forced, or sacrifice everything.
This only buys time to stay where they were before these moves made by the B1G and SEC in a way they knew would destroy college football.
There is no good seat at a massacre.
It says that after the BIG and the SEC told them to become a feeder league for their teams. That is where it says it. If they didn't want the Big 12 looking elsewhere, they shouldn't have screwed them over. It is not hard to see.
@@ThatGuyz82 Why would it only buy time? The Private Equity people think it will make money or they wouldn't be doing it. It is staying competitive. You just don't like that. Too bad.
@@johnkluge3421 because if the Big12 can do it, so can they. And they will be worth more money.
@@ThatGuyz82 then let them do it. Which is it? A disaster that is never going to work or something everyone will end up doing because it works? It can’t be both. If it does work, the Big 12 gets a big advantage by being the first to do it. That is one of the ways you win in business by being ahead of events and innovating. The bottom line here is that if this isn’t going to give the Big 12 an advantage, why are the Big 10 and SEC fans so angry about it? Stop kidding yourself. You are angry because you are afraid it is going to work
So let’s see now, Texas and OU should have remained with the Big 12, for the good of the sport? Exactly what were the other Big 12 schools going to do for the good of the sport?
It is very much the greed of the Big 12 that’s put it in this position! Years ago, the little 8 schools could have offered UT-OU higher shares. But no…that’s too not greedy of the little8! It’s all SEC/B10 greed!
The Big12 is a second tier minor league. They could have made more effort to be another SEC.
Second tier minor league why do Big 12 teams keep beating SEC teams then? I mean I know TCU took a hell of an ass whooping but the matchups between the two confidants have not been completely one-sided. If I recall Tech beat both Mississippi teams recently osu smoked a&m ect
Get rid of Alabama and Georgia and the SEC sucks now with Saban gone Texas is likely to be the SEC’s Daddy
Too many folks try to blame the SEC and Big10 for their popularity. Quit blaming the SEC/Big10 and do something about marketing your teams.
It has nothing to do with their marketing teams. It has everything to do with them constantly trying to re-write the rules to eliminate their competition.
Incredibly naive and intellectually deficient post.
Agreed. They should start there own CFP. The B1G needs to realize they're small fish. Texas and Oklahoma were the dogs that made their media tick. Since forever. They need to be ABA and AFL for a few years. Then let the strong survive. Problem is y'all want big money. Sorry it's not going to happen. Go FCS and deal with it
The SEC and the BIG 10 have been the driver for realignment for the last 20 years. They ARE the reason. And let's be honest, there are only a few teams in those two conferences that are what you call 'popular'.
You don't want to divide the money equally. Then you can't complain when the Big 12 does what is necessary to compete. It is really that simple. If this works, then the BIG and the SEC will have to do the same thing to stay competitive. If they don't like that, well they should have thought more long term when they were screwing the Big 12.
Here is a fun thought experiment. How different would college football be if the NCAA would have given a member of the SEC or Big10 the death penalty, instead of looking the other way as it did. The history of NCAA athletics is that the less valuable properties always get smacked down for violations the blue bloods are committing.
Private equity is simply an attempt to overcome the NCAA imposed disparity. Will it work? I have no idea.
Nope, blame NIL first and then NCAA second. P2 are just reacting to their environment. Maybe the have not’s should be content playing in a tier 2 instead of putting their conference at risk with this move. How are the state governments going to feel about their “public” institutions engaging in this action.
Neither example mentioned is the direct cause. NIL is the result of legal actions and settlement, and thus is a result of, not the cause. The NCAA is the acting body of the University presidents, boards, and related interests. It takes its directions from those parties.
I think it is funny that almost thirty years later that the same BIG XII conference that complains about tradition dying in college football is the same conference that planted the seeds for all of the things in college football that everyone hates when it was created by merging the SWC and Big 8.
BiG12 is in Good Hands. Please.