Correct, our bad! The % are right, but 7600x score is wrong. The scores should be: Overall 1156 Multicore 121.7 GPU 123.5 RAM Preview 115.7 Render 118.4 Tracking 109.7
It would be the same for 7600x and 13600k and 12600k, the point is not the price of the motherboard, but the platform cost. The point is to show that the same motherboard brand and model has different costs across different platforms. More and more high end x570 motherboards are getting more expensive since EOL of AM4 platform.... so a creator who would want to enter the platform with a lower end CPU to upgrade later would be on this situation. :)
@@theTechNotice No, he is damn right here. Just gave up. You are spreading misinformation to the point it is ridiculous. For example, you were comparing single core performance benchmarks... on the 13900k and the 7950x and called that an efficiency test saying AMD is less efficient because of this finding, when we know that in Blender and Handbrake, even Premiere Pro, the 7950x is faster, consume about 50-70% less power, and cost the same. Wake up, you are going in granularity and spread misinformation on a cherrypick. You should not review hardware because obviously you don't know what you are talking about. I will stick to GamerNexus, Anandtech, Hardware Unboxed, Kitguru, Hardwarebuster, HardwareCanucks... than your broken cherrypicked analysis. I am an electrical engineer, just to let you know, and you process is obviously flawed and you stick on Asus ProArt motherboards which are not really good motherboard beside their IOs offer. Just wake up...
yes, Intel's decoders support more codecs and are faster. Not to mention it has 2 of them. Nvidia should have the best H.265 encoding efficiency tho, according to tests that i looked up (at lower bitrates it looks better).
Can we get one of your signature video on a budget 4K editing PC for 2022 considering the competition between Team Red Vs Blue is now on another level with the latest gen
Even if AMD drops the price, it is still not worth it as Intel supports DDR4 so those who already have DDR4 need not buy ram and even of they need to, DDR4 costs less than DDR5
Intel Core I5 13600K,Nvidia Geforce RTX 3060 12GB GDDR6,600+ Watt Peak High Efficiency ATX PSU,16GB (Kingston, Corsair, G.Skill, Major Brand) and the dream comes true
Man would have love to see this before building a 7950x workstation - That memory controller restriction has been plaguing me (impossible to run any of the EXPO profiles); Had I known before I'd have spend the extra $$$ and bought 2x 32Gb instead of 4x 16Gb
@@Andy_S79 My main build is a 5950x with 4 sticks running 32 GB at 4333 MHZ 8 GB sticks.. Loads right up. I think the key is the number of ranks. The Expo allows some very aggressive ram settings which the 7700x thrives on. It is a bigger permance gain than even PBO.
im building a pc with really tight budget and thinking of going with i5 13600k but I can only go with an msi b660 mortar Wi-Fi ddr 4 is it gonna be fine or do i need a better mother board since my budget does not allow me to go any higher.
Not buying Zen 4 at the moment with those sale price is literally insanity. It is even cheaper than Zen 3. I was about to get a 5800x3D until I realized that the 7600x is about 230$ at the moment and is a tad faster in games.
That would be AMD shill channels ,, they cook the intel in an oven at 500 degrees for an hour before testing and cut the connectors off some of the RAM
Why can't you tell us if you are using resolve free or studio, there is a huge difference in free using CPU and studio using GPU. It's like saying we have are testing a Porsche, but not stating if it is front or rear wheel drive (if the done a fwd model aha)
Where can you find 265 for a 12600k? I ask because I bought a 12600k yesterday and 280 was the lowest that I could find. I just checked all of the links in this video and the lowest price in your own links is 280. If there is a retailer that isn't Joe's computer parts I may cancel my order and buy the 12600k there.
The main issue with Intel is that next year you will throw away your motherboard. I need to buy a new pc, I don't have any pc at the moment so I would like to buy for the long run, not being forced to upgrade within one year. Still 13th gen is way better than AM5 at the moment. Super confused.
Same position. I like the look of the 13700k. However the prospect of being able to upgrade the cpu on the same motherboard, combined with the significant difference in energy use (both for bills and heat dissipation) is making me wonder about the 7700x knowing that an upgrade for zen 5 or zen 6 won't be a full platform upgrade. Hopefully the 7800x will be more appealing.
Why are you not using 6000 CL 30 Expo memory? Why are you using faster memory on the 13600? The 7600x has 40 percent less threads than 13600K. Also the Am5 can be had for less than intel spec for spec.
premiere test for editors wanne know smooth editing playback ( feeling and frame drop in preview), multi layers take 6 or so , after effects heavy template, text and 3d animation and both render times cpu and gpu. and start up and thumbnail generation times.
@@tilapiadave3234 well that was a balanced fair and well reasoned display of reason youve convinced me , clearly gamers nexus. hardware unboxed, et al just dont know what there talking about and you are the true light of wisdom.
@@tilapiadave3234 street sweeping? where did i pretend to understand electronics? i asked a question then listed the sources of the info. you not being one of them because you have a caps key but no point.
bro im a developer so im familiarized with this terms, but i feel a overwhelming confusion when trying to decide what should i buy. at the end of the day i guess people that sometimes not even understand this terms are watching this with 1 question on their mind (what is the best and cheapest cpu i can buy for what i do?), it can get very crazy very fast try to reach a conclusion just by watching your numbers, in an ideal world the model i5,i7,i9 and R5,R7,R9 would represent the actual performance so the non-tecnical people would concern just about the budget. maybe a better aproach to compare would be consider to create a video every 6 months ex: "Review best cpu's 2022" and do the compare + picking the the 3 best results, for gaming,3 best for creators, and 3 best for productivity listed by performance and showing the price so people would decide which on from the best would be in their budget.
ps: ive been comparing and reviewing specs of mini pcs on aliexpress for 4 days AND watching video reviews , even tho i understand the technologies, to decide what is proper to what i do at its best performance and still cheap while swimming in a ocean of options get very chaotic very fast.
@@diegognoatto8706 I've been doing the same. From what I see. The Ryzen 7 CPUs with 16/32gb configuration seems good. There's Beelink mini PCs on Amazon and Beelink website. And those look really good.
Need videos of the new AMD RX 7000 Series GPUs paired with Ryzen 7000 series vs 5000 series CPUs. They said AMD RX 7000 Series GPUs are great for encoding/decoding.
I need to point out there are literally 51 different X570 motherboards on pcpartpicker that are cheaper than $250 right now. (In the US however I’m sure theres still plenty in other countries) You don’t need a fancy motherboard for these CPUs. I get you’re comparing the same models of boards but that 5600x comparison is incredibly unfair to be priced so high. Using these expensive boards doesn’t show the real world value for any of them imo if you’re on a tighter budget.
Same can be said for Z690 motherboards too. They are available below $200 too! For new pc builders intel is the way to go with Z690 platform and 12th gen and that will provide a sweet upgrade path too as 13th is showing a significant upgrade over 12th gen and 12th gen is powerful than ryzen 5000. Amd is dead now!
@@pinakmiku4999 I agree that Intel is the way to go now but if you are on an extreme tight budget and just wanted something that works the 5600x is so cheap now especially paired with any cheaper B550 or B450 board it makes sense for that. But for an upgrade path Intel has a way better value right now
7600x and 7700x are not justified because if you go build PC with this cpus you basically need same expensive parts as with 7900x and 7950x and if build with them costs 1500-1600$ that means you could get PC build with 7900x for 1750$ or 1900$ with 7950x so basically only 10-25% more money for 80-120% more performance in productivity while gaming will be around same
why anyone would spend tons of money on expensive motherboard for 5600x which would run pretty fine and basically same with 60-70$ AM4 mobo as b450/550 as with some expensive garbage as x570 !?
Amd is dead now!! Only makes sense for existing existing am4 platform with old processors like ryzen 2000 or 3000 series to upgrade. Intel is the new generation and has made a comeback! Strongly recommend to buy intel 12th gen at discounts for new builders!
@@TJ-hs1qm That doesn’t avoid the fact that they are struggling now. Amd became greedy for their shareholders and now for next two years intel will rule. Majority of people buy older generation and intel ruled this year and next year too. So for next 2-3 years DIY market will prefer intel.
AMD is not dead... Sure, It sucks that motherboard prices are not their promised price and DDR5 is pretty expensive, especially in comparison to DDR4. Yes, it loses in value, and I'm with you there, but it is most definitely not dead. I am going to be building my first P.C. this year, i have been wanting to and research to high hell for the past 4-6 years, I am likely going AMD for my next CPU (and even GPU for value) because of longevity of the platform and efficiency. Cost in electricity bills will be lower compared to intel, probably even saving money overtime. If I were to go intel, I would want 13th gen, but I either get a Z790 or bios update a 12th gen motherboard, that requires a supported CPU of the same socket. So, (at the moment) that dorsn not work out for me. AMD definitely still works out for people like us. Like the other person said, if AMD didn't exist, there wouldn't be competition and we would probably be stuck on 80nm, so even bottom line, they definitely still have a place.
If someone buy now AM5 cpu and platform thinking he'll avoid buying a new motherboard in 1-2 years, I can add that buying lga 1700 cpu+ddr5 platform he'll save enough money to buy his next motherboard in 1-2 years... So the upgrade path at this moment is not important... In 1-2 years we'll check it out again. Who knows...maybe the new motherboards will have features that keeping a 2 years old motherboard will be pointless... :) :) :)
zen4 not bad, quite much improve from zen3 . but 7600x totally suck,amd need to AMD needs to re-examine the gap between ryzen physical core and the opponent's physical core to adjust the price.before 13thgen release， they already know i5 13600k have 6+8 equal 10pcore multithread performance cpu. even they know this before，They still maintain the $300 price for 6 cores， this show that how arrogant and greedy amd is today. After taking a brief lead on zen3, they forgot that they used to be a chasing identity and thought they had become the leader. Arrogant attitude.
The after efects score table is mixed with davinci resolve table in video. Time 18:55
Correct, our bad! The % are right, but 7600x score is wrong. The scores should be: Overall 1156
Multicore 121.7
GPU 123.5
RAM Preview 115.7
Render 118.4
Tracking 109.7
@@theTechNotice Tech Notice are you the one replaying sending you a message via Instagram to win a prize ? or it's a fake account ?
Now in July 23, 13600k is at 290$ and 7600x is at 190$ in India.
Got my 7600x for $199 in the states
@@puffyips👍 nice, R5 7600x and R9 7900 are the most VFM in AMD line-up.
5600x + $658 motherboard. One of the worst vacuum comparison I ever saw in my entire life. How much Intel pays you to disable brain cells?)
It would be the same for 7600x and 13600k and 12600k, the point is not the price of the motherboard, but the platform cost. The point is to show that the same motherboard brand and model has different costs across different platforms. More and more high end x570 motherboards are getting more expensive since EOL of AM4 platform.... so a creator who would want to enter the platform with a lower end CPU to upgrade later would be on this situation.
:)
@@theTechNotice No, he is damn right here. Just gave up. You are spreading misinformation to the point it is ridiculous. For example, you were comparing single core performance benchmarks... on the 13900k and the 7950x and called that an efficiency test saying AMD is less efficient because of this finding, when we know that in Blender and Handbrake, even Premiere Pro, the 7950x is faster, consume about 50-70% less power, and cost the same. Wake up, you are going in granularity and spread misinformation on a cherrypick. You should not review hardware because obviously you don't know what you are talking about. I will stick to GamerNexus, Anandtech, Hardware Unboxed, Kitguru, Hardwarebuster, HardwareCanucks... than your broken cherrypicked analysis. I am an electrical engineer, just to let you know, and you process is obviously flawed and you stick on Asus ProArt motherboards which are not really good motherboard beside their IOs offer. Just wake up...
Huge thanks to CCL for providing the Ryzen 7000 samples! Buy the 7600x from CCL here: geni.us/7600x
Great video! I wrote you a dm in Instagram to give some 8k, 4K 120fps footage for tests.
power draw is not worth it you big noob.
Can you retest this when you have RX 7900 XTX using Smart Access Video - Ryzen 7000 CPU + AMD RX 7900 XTX?
Is Intel's iGPU still relevant with RTX 40 series encoders and decoders?
Yes! DEcoders on the 40 series are the same as 30 series :)
yes, Intel's decoders support more codecs and are faster. Not to mention it has 2 of them. Nvidia should have the best H.265 encoding efficiency tho, according to tests that i looked up (at lower bitrates it looks better).
If you can see through it that means heat is escaping and thermal paste can get in.
Can we get one of your signature video on a budget 4K editing PC for 2022 considering the competition between Team Red Vs Blue is now on another level with the latest gen
Lots of great information. Thank you
You think I should go Ryzen 5 7600x with RTX 4070 or Intel i5-14600k with RTX 4060?
7600X and 4070 definitely.. it is way better to get a better gpu than a cpu! Unless you are a high end game dev then def i5 and 4060
@@RengokuAMVs-im6xywhat should i get for a professional film editor like me? the intel procie or amd?
@@DaniRoring Intel, absolutely
The Best!! Thank youuu
Even if AMD drops the price, it is still not worth it as Intel supports DDR4 so those who already have DDR4 need not buy ram and even of they need to, DDR4 costs less than DDR5
and drop the performances + dead platform. next you need to upgrade entire system. while you can upgrade the am5 to next 3 years
wow, but with an am5 i can upgrade to a ryzen 10 series with same mobo and ram ;)
Guys has AMD officially announced the future of AM5 and the platform support?
@@theTechNotice 5 4 and 3 nm
As far as looking at amd launch dates they release there cpu every 2 years so only 2-3 generations will be supported on it.
Intel Core I5 13600K,Nvidia Geforce RTX 3060 12GB GDDR6,600+ Watt Peak High Efficiency ATX PSU,16GB (Kingston, Corsair, G.Skill, Major Brand) and the dream comes true
Man would have love to see this before building a 7950x workstation - That memory controller restriction has been plaguing me (impossible to run any of the EXPO profiles); Had I known before I'd have spend the extra $$$ and bought 2x 32Gb instead of 4x 16Gb
Same on Intel, 4 sticks with XMP makes a lot of trouble. 2 works fine.
currently using 4 dimms, would never use anything other than 2 in the future
@@Andy_S79 My main build is a 5950x with 4 sticks running 32 GB at 4333 MHZ 8 GB sticks.. Loads right up. I think the key is the number of ranks. The Expo allows some very aggressive ram settings which the 7700x thrives on. It is a bigger permance gain than even PBO.
Sell it and switch.
@@Andy_S79 Not ANYWHERE near as much trouble as AMD ,, Intel AGAIN shows superior engineering
One thing i'm curious about: how does it stack up against a Steam Deck in gaming?
sir how many max number of argb fans can we sync in an argb motherboard header ?
im building a pc with really tight budget and thinking of going with i5 13600k but I can only go with an msi b660 mortar Wi-Fi ddr 4 is it gonna be fine or do i need a better mother board since my budget does not allow me to go any higher.
Not buying Zen 4 at the moment with those sale price is literally insanity. It is even cheaper than Zen 3. I was about to get a 5800x3D until I realized that the 7600x is about 230$ at the moment and is a tad faster in games.
Interesting. I've seen Ryzen 7600x crush the 12600k easily in other tests.
stop be a fanboylism anymore, because this kind fanboylism making amd become greedy company.
LMAO ,, you need to check what those AMD shill channels are doing to bend / twist results
That would be AMD shill channels ,, they cook the intel in an oven at 500 degrees for an hour before testing and cut the connectors off some of the RAM
Why can't you tell us if you are using resolve free or studio, there is a huge difference in free using CPU and studio using GPU. It's like saying we have are testing a Porsche, but not stating if it is front or rear wheel drive (if the done a fwd model aha)
Always Studio, coz free version would cap the hardware.
Where can you find 265 for a 12600k? I ask because I bought a 12600k yesterday and 280 was the lowest that I could find. I just checked all of the links in this video and the lowest price in your own links is 280. If there is a retailer that isn't Joe's computer parts I may cancel my order and buy the 12600k there.
I think £260 is a 12600kf most likely
i5 13600k is 7000 more than 5 7600x in india
You cannot compare these both
Well done review with work load results vs gaming. Big thanks.
what motherboard would u use for an r5 5600 and rx6650xt ? i want t budget one but not a bad one xd
B550
On AM5 only the 7950x makes any sense, and only if your software uses all cores.
Agree ,,, Intel has AMD well beaten in all other areas ,,, but the 7950x Vs 13900k ,,,, hmmm I would probably also choose the AMD
The main issue with Intel is that next year you will throw away your motherboard.
I need to buy a new pc, I don't have any pc at the moment so I would like to buy for the long run, not being forced to upgrade within one year.
Still 13th gen is way better than AM5 at the moment.
Super confused.
Hello, you won't throw it. But sell it. (Around a loss of $20-70) not that bad?
Same position. I like the look of the 13700k. However the prospect of being able to upgrade the cpu on the same motherboard, combined with the significant difference in energy use (both for bills and heat dissipation) is making me wonder about the 7700x knowing that an upgrade for zen 5 or zen 6 won't be a full platform upgrade. Hopefully the 7800x will be more appealing.
X3D version is coming with 16 core, it will benefit both productivity and games.
Been building PCs for 10 years and don't think I've ever once had to throw away a motherboard using an intel CPU.
It’s more like buy i7 or i9 for next 3-4 years invest in it because you are then using a trust wealthy system
it doesn`t need to beat anything, if you buy intel remember to give thanks to AMD for you still having now both kidneys
I have a 7600x with 2- 16gb sticks running at the recommended 6000mhz. Easily achieved. Above 6000mhz performance returns are reported to be minor.
And a 13600k SMASHES it at a LOWER cost :) Poor choice
i can easy upgrade to another cpu on am5 plattform :) this is why i bought 7600x@@tilapiadave3234
The 7500F at $130USD or less is it's biggest issue...
Why are you not using 6000 CL 30 Expo memory? Why are you using faster memory on the 13600? The 7600x has 40 percent less threads than 13600K. Also the Am5 can be had for less than intel spec for spec.
I'm using the same Memory on 12th, 13th gen and Ryzen 7000...?
@@theTechNotice Maybe I miss read the charts or misunderstood.
premiere test for editors wanne know smooth editing playback ( feeling and frame drop in preview), multi layers take 6 or so , after effects heavy template, text and 3d animation and both render times cpu and gpu. and start up and thumbnail generation times.
4k 8 and 10 bit files 100mb+ h264 h265 export and raw to mp4 times.
waiting for that 128GB mega test
yeah but isnt 5800x3d with a 150 mb and 70 of ram going to a an equal cheaper option? for like half
WRONG ,, 5800X3D WAY over-priced EXTREMELY overhyped waste of sand
@@tilapiadave3234 well that was a balanced fair and well reasoned display of reason youve convinced me , clearly gamers nexus. hardware unboxed, et al just dont know what there talking about and you are the true light of wisdom.
jon b ,, failed at street sweeping so pretends he understand electronics ,, VERY amusing
@@tilapiadave3234 street sweeping? where did i pretend to understand electronics? i asked a question then listed the sources of the info.
you not being one of them because you have a caps key but no point.
bro im a developer so im familiarized with this terms, but i feel a overwhelming confusion when trying to decide what should i buy. at the end of the day i guess people that sometimes not even understand this terms are watching this with 1 question on their mind (what is the best and cheapest cpu i can buy for what i do?), it can get very crazy very fast try to reach a conclusion just by watching your numbers, in an ideal world the model i5,i7,i9 and R5,R7,R9 would represent the actual performance so the non-tecnical people would concern just about the budget. maybe a better aproach to compare would be consider to create a video every 6 months ex: "Review best cpu's 2022" and do the compare + picking the the 3 best results, for gaming,3 best for creators, and 3 best for productivity listed by performance and showing the price so people would decide which on from the best would be in their budget.
ps: ive been comparing and reviewing specs of mini pcs on aliexpress for 4 days AND watching video reviews , even tho i understand the technologies, to decide what is proper to what i do at its best performance and still cheap while swimming in a ocean of options get very chaotic very fast.
@@diegognoatto8706 I've been doing the same. From what I see. The Ryzen 7 CPUs with 16/32gb configuration seems good. There's Beelink mini PCs on Amazon and Beelink website. And those look really good.
Need videos of the new AMD RX 7000 Series GPUs paired with Ryzen 7000 series vs 5000 series CPUs. They said AMD RX 7000 Series GPUs are great for encoding/decoding.
7600X and 3060 ti is my favourite combo
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I need to point out there are literally 51 different X570 motherboards on pcpartpicker that are cheaper than $250 right now. (In the US however I’m sure theres still plenty in other countries) You don’t need a fancy motherboard for these CPUs. I get you’re comparing the same models of boards but that 5600x comparison is incredibly unfair to be priced so high. Using these expensive boards doesn’t show the real world value for any of them imo if you’re on a tighter budget.
Same can be said for Z690 motherboards too. They are available below $200 too! For new pc builders intel is the way to go with Z690 platform and 12th gen and that will provide a sweet upgrade path too as 13th is showing a significant upgrade over 12th gen and 12th gen is powerful than ryzen 5000. Amd is dead now!
@@pinakmiku4999 I agree that Intel is the way to go now but if you are on an extreme tight budget and just wanted something that works the 5600x is so cheap now especially paired with any cheaper B550 or B450 board it makes sense for that. But for an upgrade path Intel has a way better value right now
7600x and 7700x are not justified because if you go build PC with this cpus you basically need same expensive parts as with 7900x and 7950x and if build with them costs 1500-1600$ that means you could get PC build with 7900x for 1750$ or 1900$ with 7950x so basically only 10-25% more money for 80-120% more performance in productivity while gaming will be around same
Could be a good pickup in 2 yrs when used motherboard for 150 and this for 150 lol
why anyone would spend tons of money on expensive motherboard for 5600x which would run pretty fine and basically same with 60-70$ AM4 mobo as b450/550 as with some expensive garbage as x570 !?
The 7600x can run 6400mhz ram now.
My valkyrie oc 5.6 all cores 😎😎😎😎
I'm not trying to say I'm wealthy but today I doubled the meat and put sour cream on my taco bell order
Rip AMD
AMD is buried starting with FX.
what a irony
23:18
Can't watch your video, man. The music is too loud, annoying and unnecessary.
It doesn't beat intel in anything..hope this helps
The 13 gen of Intel is the best
the motherboards you are considering are nonsense
i only game so amd win here
Amd is dead now!! Only makes sense for existing existing am4 platform with old processors like ryzen 2000 or 3000 series to upgrade. Intel is the new generation and has made a comeback! Strongly recommend to buy intel 12th gen at discounts for new builders!
amd isn't dead... without them we would still sit on 80nm intel chips 🕺
@@TJ-hs1qm That doesn’t avoid the fact that they are struggling now. Amd became greedy for their shareholders and now for next two years intel will rule. Majority of people buy older generation and intel ruled this year and next year too. So for next 2-3 years DIY market will prefer intel.
AMD is not dead... Sure, It sucks that motherboard prices are not their promised price and DDR5 is pretty expensive, especially in comparison to DDR4. Yes, it loses in value, and I'm with you there, but it is most definitely not dead.
I am going to be building my first P.C. this year, i have been wanting to and research to high hell for the past 4-6 years, I am likely going AMD for my next CPU (and even GPU for value) because of longevity of the platform and efficiency. Cost in electricity bills will be lower compared to intel, probably even saving money overtime.
If I were to go intel, I would want 13th gen, but I either get a Z790 or bios update a 12th gen motherboard, that requires a supported CPU of the same socket. So, (at the moment) that dorsn not work out for me. AMD definitely still works out for people like us.
Like the other person said, if AMD didn't exist, there wouldn't be competition and we would probably be stuck on 80nm, so even bottom line, they definitely still have a place.
If someone buy now AM5 cpu and platform thinking he'll avoid buying a new motherboard in 1-2 years, I can add that buying lga 1700 cpu+ddr5 platform he'll save enough money to buy his next motherboard in 1-2 years... So the upgrade path at this moment is not important... In 1-2 years we'll check it out again. Who knows...maybe the new motherboards will have features that keeping a 2 years old motherboard will be pointless... :) :) :)
zen4 not bad, quite much improve from zen3 . but 7600x totally suck,amd need to AMD needs to re-examine the gap between ryzen physical core and the opponent's physical core to adjust the price.before 13thgen release， they already know i5 13600k have 6+8 equal 10pcore multithread performance cpu. even they know this before，They still maintain the $300 price for 6 cores， this show that how arrogant and greedy amd is today. After taking a brief lead on zen3, they forgot that they used to be a chasing identity and thought they had become the leader. Arrogant attitude.
Ryzen 7000 has actual cores not that fake core bullshit like intels e-core crap. But then you love Intel so
🤣🤣🤣
Don't let actual metrics influence your bias dude, lol