The Hidden Ryzen | AMD Ryzen 5 7500F
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- Testing the AMD Ryzen 5 7500F 6-core 12-thread CPU in 10 popular and demanding games in 2024, using an RX 6900 XT discrete GPU.
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The Ryzen 7000 series started out in life by focusing on the high end of the market, with AMD seemingly content for their budget-conscious customers to stick with the ageing AM4 platform instead. The Ryzen 5 7600 and 7600X represent great performance, but at prices that are still slightly off putting. What they needed to kickstart the popularity of the new platform was a cheaper, no-frills performance option; something like the Ryzen 5 7500F, a (slightly) cut-down 7600 for just £150 ($179).
Now, if only they’d make it easier to get…
Currently the cheapest listing on AliExpress: www.aliexpress.com/item/10050...
(subject to change)
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00:00 AMD Ryzen 5 7500F in 2024
01:13 The Story of the AMD Ryzen 5 7500F
04:03 Test System
04:40 Gaming Benchmarks
04:43 Benchmarks: Valorant
05:29 Benchmarks: Fortnite
05:59 Benchmarks: Counter Strike 2
06:40 Benchmarks: Call of Duty: Warzone
07:38 Benchmarks: Starfield
08:15 Benchmarks: Cyberpunk 2077
09:12 Benchmarks: The Last of Us
09:50 Benchmarks: Jedi Survivor
10:28 Benchmarks: Flight Simulator 2020
10:59 Benchmarks: Civilization VI
11:20 Synthetics: 3DMark Fire Strike & Time Spy
11:27 Synthetics: CPU-Z & Cinebench R23
11:40 Productivity Test: Davinci Resolve
12:13 Productivity Test: Blender
12:39 Conclusion
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NOTES:
04:28 For the tuned test, I used Buildzoid’s “low effort” timings for Hynix A & M-die DDR5 from his Patreon page: www.patreon.com/posts/low-effort-rank-77403831. This is purely an adjustment to subtimings - the frequency and basic timings are mostly untouched from the EXPO profile. I also set Infinity Fabric to 2033 based on Buildzoid’s recommendations on his UA-cam channel: www.youtube.com/@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking
I set the CPU’s TDP to 105w to prevent PL throttling during Cinebench, Resolve and Blender. I maxed out the curve optimizer clock speed offset, which is +200 for a max clock speed of 5250, and set the voltage offset to -30. The total system power draw during Cinebench was 185-187w from the wall.
12:39 I might have been a bit ambiguous in my conclusion, focusing on negatives over positives. In fact, the 7500F is an excellent buy and well worth the money. I don’t mean to knock AliExpress, I personally don’t recall ever having had a bad experience with them, but this would be an easier recommendation if only AMD would release the 7500F to retail in the West as well.
14:02 More recent Intel iGPUs and their Quick Sync function allows for hardware decoding of video formats that even some discrete GPUs don’t handle (ref: www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/what-h-264-and-h-265-hardware-decoding-is-supported-in-davinci-resolve-studio-2122/)
While the new AMD iGPUs are (supposedly) able to decode video in apps like Resolve and Premiere, they probably won’t have the full range of codec support that Quick Sync has. As you can see from the Puget chart, AMD’s DGPUs don’t support many codecs, so there’s no reason to expect any more of their iGPUs.
If you’re interested in learning more about Intel Quick Sync for video editors and other creative types, check out Tech Notice’s channel: www.youtube.com/@theTechNotice
i imagine you live in a black and white house with black and white rooms and you yourself is black and white to take those b rolls
A cpu from AliExpress maxing out the curve optimiser is surprising, very good silicon.
You should mess with some Frame Gen mods
@@nicekeyboardalan6972 Yeah, I'm trying to come up with a good idea around it.
@@IcebergTech They are crazy mods. Barely used more CPU and it looks pretty good.
My 3050 is not dead with it.
Luckily the 7500f is sold here officially and has a decent discount over the 7600 (about $30)
Man, that is dirt cheap.
@@thomaswest2583 amd stuff is in general dirt cheap here as people always prefer nvidia geforce + intel core over radeon + ryzen as our countries game devs optimize only for intel and nvidia. The tradeoff is that intel and nvidia are really overpriced though.
@@thomaswest2583$150 is not cheap enough
In Russia it is also sold at a price around $140. While oem 7600 (non x) costs over $180. Quite a significant difference.
Too bad cheapest "good enough" motherboard (gigabyte B650 DS3H) is around $200. And dont forget ddr5.
In germany its like 220€ vs 170€ ☠️ 170€ with tax included really is dirt cheap considering how powerful it is for gaming
You are my favorite benchmarker iceberg, your humor is always on point!
You probably don't remember, but a few months ago, I told you in the comments that, if you keep this quality up, your channel will definitely blow up. And look where you are at now!
It just makes me so happy you made it as far as you did. You deserve all the success man :)
I picked up a 7600X as part of a new pc build over a year ago now and now it's most definitely my 3070 that's the weak point. This CPU if similar should serve you well for GPU testing for the foreseeable!
Great video as always!
Starfield not even hitting 100fps on 1080p medium with such a machine is ridiculous. Especially considering the graphics of that game.
creation engine is garbage thats why
Now that you have a DDR5 board, I would love to see you test out the Vega card again with HBCC enabled as well as other cards with low VRAM buffers to see if the faster shared memory makes a significant difference.
It won't. The limit is the PCIe link, ~16GB/s in Vega's case
I'm pretty sure he's said he sells the cards and doesn't keep them after testing I could be wrong though
True, but I've kept hold of the Radeon VII and Vega 64... because I want to do another HBCC test! However, it will be more about memory quantity than frequency, because - as @hblanksjukebox said, PCIE bandwidth will be a limiting factor.
It's coming in either late Feb or early March.
@@IcebergTech i love your videos man ive been watching for a while now your my favorite budget parts youtuber
your videos a hidden gem bro! engaging editing and cinematography are top notch for such a small channel, really looking forward to seeing your channel grow
that split second of silence at the start of your videos always makes me think that my headphones have disconnected
One of my favorite voices to listen to right now. Thanks for the work you put in there!
Lol thanks, I've gone 40+ years without ever being complimented for my voice so it's weird to hear all of a sudden, but I appreciate it nonetheless!
@@IcebergTech XD I'm using your videos as a radio substitute while driving and find them to be a fairly nice thing to listen to. Sadly I'm not the one person on the internet to propose to you. ^^
Absolutely love your reviews man! Thank you so much for the work and style you put into these reviews you are my favorite reviewer!
This cpu is pretty amazing. My friend in Germany was able to buy it at mind factory. Would love to see the 2070 super reviewed as the best etc card for value from its generation.
Can you befriend someone in mindfactory and get them to reconsider their policy on delivering outside Germany 😂. Getting slammed hard here in Ireland. 😢
@@DodgyTodger Reichelt sells the 7500F and will ship to Ireland (for 15€).
@@hackfleisch7424 I was never on that site before, I'll ave a look. Caseking is the one recommended for Irish shoppers usually.
2070s is good but for that price u can get 3060 12gb
Your benchmarks background music is 🔥🔥🔥 weird request: never change it. It won’t be an iceberg tech vid for me. As always you deliver 🔥
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ice berg ive been waiting for this for what feels like forever thank you!
Iceberg Tech reviewing current gen hardware??? We’re moving up in the world lads.
(I know the 6900xt was technically current gen when reviewed but there’s no technicalties on this one 😉)
Love the content Ice hope your doing well
Thanks, you too!
Yeah, the 7500F is good value here in Australia - 228$aud on Ali vs 299$aud for the 7600/x locally.
$299 for a 7600 is cheap PCpartpicker Australia has them listen no less than $348. which means the 7500F is more than $100 cheaper...
gotta love australian import taxes
7500F RRP here is $299, with the 7600 being generally $329. I got mine for $340 about 6 months ago and I'm pretty happy considering I'm okay using the stock cooler. If I had the choice of a 7500F for $220 it'd be a no brainer. Who wouldn't want a mini 5800X3D for that price?
I'm using one in a X670E MB, and it actually hammers for a cheap CPU till I get my update.
i got my 7500f for 185aud
Here in China ,it's a popular choice , a bit like R5 3500X back in the day
I thought R5 3600 was the "people's choice"
@@valerabaglej7437 That's because you don't live in China.
What about used xeons, they're probably a much better choice cause hyperthreading.
Well, at that time the higher clocked Xeons are not that cheap, and mbs can be tricky. So a lot of people would buy 3500x for better worranty and better performance at esports titles@@BonusCrook
@@BonusCrook on high core count xeons like e5 2697,8,9 you actually turn hyperthreading OFF for gaming
i love this channel the quality is always on top!
🎶🎶Happy New year Iceberg Tech!🎶🎶 Thanks for the great content!🏆😀
MSFS 2020 is held back by the traffic settings.
Try to lower them and CPU and GPU usage should increase (and hopefully FPS as well)
Brilliant channel. I've been spreading the gospel of the 6000 series GPUs since I found your channel and managed to snag a 6700xt early last year. A real breath of fresh air.
Perfect timing! AE has sale now and got mine for 135. Pretty good value, cheper than used 7600
Same, ordered mine this morning for $135 (could be even $133,7 if I knew to order in the AliExpress app, instead of their website), now to wait for 3-4 weeks before it arrives from China😅
The 7500F is also being sold in Bulgaria. I got the 7600 and it is a great gaming chip.
Reminds me when I purchased the Intel Haswell, but Xeon version, as it was performing very similar to the higher end mode, but missing the integrated GPU. And it was cheaper. I was using it still in 2023!
You should do a part 2 for this video where you compare the 7500f with a used 50 dollar video card vs a 7600 with its iGPU.
What did you smoke?
It's insane how Cyberpunk 2077 runs 30 fps faster than Starfield
you are my favorite and most interesting youtuber thank you for everything you do
Ryzen 5 7500F may as well be the CPU for first-time budget PC build with DDR5 RAM support. Lets just say you spend a little bit more on an AM5 motherboard, the CPU without iGPU & DDR5 RAM sticks. Then, you decide to restrict your budget by buying last gen graphics card (RTX 2060 or RX 6600 XT) as a stopgap before going for an upgrade path once you have a lot of money to spend on high-end graphics cards.
Iceberg, I can’t fathom someone like you searching for cpu that weren’t made for the public market and only available in prebuilts and then finding them working AND THEN BUYING AND REVIEWING THEM even though no one had any idea it existed for the most part
It’s sold as it own product here in South Africa
I just bought mine and so far it's been a monster cpu utilization does not even go above 50% even when Im playing triple A games
Great video!
I just got the 7500F, its basically like a 7600x. I'm running it at 5.636GHz, 6500CL26 1:1 FCLK at 2216, with a mild bclk oc of 101.6 to max out my ram (imc) in 1:1 mode. Its really good. Significantly better than the 5800x3d is a lot of esport titles, not in warzone 2 though but in games like fortnite/csgo/valorant the difference is massive. I was expecting a bit more performance in warzone but I guess there's no replacement for 3d cache in warzone 2...
Today I learned "Singles Day" was an actual holiday
Yes, it's the only one I celebrate 🎻
@@IcebergTechbest comment so far in 2024
Have my 7500f on the way. I only make a jump from AM4 to AM5 because it's the last good moment to get good money from AM4 while it's still popular. After selling 5600, x370 mobo and 32gb 3200 cl16, buying 7500f, b650m mobo and 32gb 6000 cl36 had to additionally pay only a little over 100€.
same, way cheaper than upgrading to 5800x3D from 5600x
Here in Austria and Germany you can buy the 7500F from several retailers for about 170€
$299 AU dollars
Waiting for zen 5 but appreciate the stellar production quality and content.
Got my 7600X used for 160 euros (tray version). Ryzen Master gives a -30 on all cores which is apparently rock stable everywhere, perhaps I got a good chip. I’ve set the power limit at 90W for the CPU and use a Thermalright AXP90-X47 full copper. For the price I can’t complain honestly. It now lives on my portable mini ITX K39 case with the same ram you used in this video and the A2000 6gb Nvidia GPU. Total power draw at max is 145w which is amazing!
I don't remember using a warranty in a long time.
And what I remember is that the company put a lot of stupid conditions to fulfill the warranty, making it impossible to get something back. Just trouble.
No warranty is perfectly fine for me.
This comment was written using an AMD Ryzen 5 7500F :)
My like was given using the same processor
Can you do a tutorial for overcloking AMD 7000 on B... motherboards? I didn't found any good video for that on UA-cam.
And also, you now need an RX 7900 XTX to benchmark the 7500f.
I would have bought a 7500f if ut was available on Amazon. I'm not confident enough in AliExpress to spend more than 50€ on something 😅
Probably not, I don't consider myself to be in that league. I usually follow Optimum's videos on Ryzen tuning, myself
1:49 i got my 7600 only for $200 and its running constantly great for the past month with a 5.4ghz overclock and volted at around 1.2 I believe
Love my 7500F! You can easily PBO it to 5.2ghz and and i got mine stable on a minus curve of 15 all core as well..not running hotter then 65c on gaming workloads with a budget 240MM aio👍🏻 great pairing with a RTX 4070 and 32GB cl32 6000mhz memory!
This is such an interesting CPU. am thinking of jumping into AM5 and was considering the 7600, but at around €240 it doesn't seem great value. This chip is €214 and think I'm gonna take the plunge. I had no idea it existed, thank you!
I just bought one in Europe but the price was better month ago, you could get 7600x for the price that 7500f has right now. Still okay because 7600x got 50 USD more expensive so I went with that
In an LTT AMD tech upgrade video Linus said they could use the motherboard HDMI port because the integrated GPU is RDNA 2 and could thereby use the dedicated AMD GPU through that without any issues (not sure if the dedicated GPU was RDNA 2 or 3 but either one should work matter as far as I am aware). The dedicated GPU only had one HDMI port and they needed 2. I haven’t seen anyone putting out any performance numbers for this claim so I only know about it because of that video, lol.
That specific use case other than not needing the power of a dedicated GPU is why I could see the value of the Ryzen 7600 over 7500F, lol.
dude i like your videos!
Since you posted a video on relatively newer CPUs that are hard to find in the West, will you maybe do a video on the Intel Core i5-12490F? I'm curious how those would turn out given the limited coverage I've seen on those
My 7500f from aliexpress just arrived, i got it for £100...
Im really impressed by this efficient little 6 core
My 7500F can boost on the fastest core to 5750Mhz, can sustain 5,5ghz on all cores with manual OC. I settled at PBO +200 and custom CO (5,25Ghz@ 1.06v in full load) and I am super happy with the performance. I'm getting 51C while gaming and below 60C using Dark Rock 4
How did you do it?
@@Laubstein5639 just got lucky with my unit, but overall 7500F can easily boost to 5250mhz with relatively low core voltage
How did you overclock your 7500f? I can't find the option to do so in Ryzen Master:)
I really like the grounded conclusion, based on the real world.
Question - is the 7500f come without the box? Just packaged in tray chip?
Here in germany we have a big retailer selling these. I got one 53€ cheaper then the cheapest 7600. But somehow i can't find these on aliexpress.
One of the few sensible tech channels in youtube ❤
I have some genuine concerns about AMD's release strategy for Ryzen 8000. It seems like they might release it in mid/late 2024 and then follow up with Ryzen 8000 3D vcache in early 2025, all while announcing the AM6 socket stating the end of AMD's AM5 2025+ support.
The release timeline reminds me of Intel's approach, where they only provided us with 2 generations instead of the 4 generations we saw with AM4. Personally, I don't really consider 3D vcache to be a whole new generation. I joined the AM4 platform late, so I decided to invest in AM5 early by purchasing an expensive x670e motherboard to ensure better long term CPU support (remembered early AM4 motherboards had some issues towards the end).
However, it feels like I may have wasted my money because I was hoping to be able to upgrade at a low cost in 5 years. I could be wrong, I would love to be wrong but AM5 released in 2022?? 2024 now and still only on the original launch generation, with the promise of 2025+ support, maybe we get more, I would only benefit from it but it does seem like AM5 will not have the generational longevity of AM4.
Why AM6 ? They have no reason to
@@attilavs2 intel never had any real reason to move their 115x sockets around either, but it sells more chipsets and cpus
@@attilavs2 They stated support until 2025+ with rumors that Ryzen 9000 will be a dramatic architecture change resulting in a mandatory redesign socket.
Time line kinda plays out is all
I bought in to socket 1700. I'm sure a 14900k will last a long time. Before it can't game
I did your same "mistake". Expensive X670E bought 9 months ago, with plans to upgrade in 2026 to the fastest, last AM5 CPU and stay there until 2030 or whatever. PCIe 5.0, lots of ports and all that. I'm already feeling scammed. We'll only get Ryzen 8000 and a trash refresh. AMD is the new Intel.
what are the best workstation gpus for gaming
stock settings??.... my 7500f was boosting normally from stock only had 85c thermal limit on(about 14200pts in c23).. after some bios tweaking I got it running 5.2ghz under 90c on full load
jost got this cpu, what a good buy. my upgrade path will be awesome
Your content is so underrated. Do you edit your own videos?
Thank you! Yes, I do.
@@IcebergTech keep up the good work!
11:20 Pretty crazy that you got your hands on a 75600X
How is this processor for PUBG? Can I get 180 or 150fps in 1440p if I pair it with Rx 6600Xt 12 Gb?
Hell yeah ! Thx
6:45 Shouldn't the 6900 XT be able to handle Warzone at 1440p with no issue?
It's for sale in South Africa as well for about $208
So you do know how to tune CPU and memory! Where was this glorious overclocking goodness during the 9900K video?
Well, enough people whined about it in my 9900K video that I decided to do something about it.
@@IcebergTech well excellent job! It's a great inclusion for these videos.
So now I'm curious, is this going to replace the current cpu in your GPU tests? or is the 5700x going to stay?
Yes, this is the new GPU test rig. The 5700X is from my editing PC, and that's staying until I can afford an upgrade. The 5600X is being sold to fund my next CPU review!
is 7500f fine with 5600mhz 2x8 ram and 6700xt for 1080p 60fps gaming?
is the ryzen 5 7500f and 3060 12gb good for video editing on premier
I have this CPU, do I have to do anything to make it work at 5.0 or does it do it automatically??? Mine at the moment says it runs at 3.7
Checj your cooler
two questions:
1: how much OC minimum would you recommend for the 7500f?
2: how well do you think it would pair up with a 4070?
Do you think that this cpu is enough for rx 6800-6800xt ? Or will it bottleneck
my local tech store has a combo for 16gb of ram a 7500f and a really good msi motherboard for around 480 usd, considering upgrading from a ryzen 5 2400g to it, is it worth it or would it be better to upgrade to a 5600x and keep my current mobo and ram?
i used to use 2400g 4 years ago before upgrading to 5600 2 years ago. it is insufficient in 2024. this 7500f is 35% faster than 5600x. sell your am4 before it becomes worthless.
5600x3d costs more than 7500f but performs similarly in games.
Now that you have a DDR5 mobo i would love to see a DDR5 Single channel vs Dual channel comparison (due to how expensive ddr5 ram is) because you are my most trusted benchmark source
I'm working on a new 16 vs 32GB video for DDR5, but as good 2x8GB kits are getting scarce I'm also going to throw in a single 16GB stick for comparison. The video's currently planned for a February release.
Do you think you could pair the 7500f with a 7800xt considering going r5 7600 and 7800xt but this cpu could help stay closer to the budget
Yep, great choice.
Yes it's the same cpu ±2%
@@IcebergTech I was going to go 7600x or 7600 but price keeps going up same with the 7800xt
i got this cpu recently, and tempratures blew my mind. Im BARELY seeing anything over 55°C. and keep in mind Im using an air cooler not even liquid cooling. I can wholeheartedly recommend this cpu for your builds.
What’s your cooler’s name ?
the integrated graphics of the 7600 can be used to lower idle power consumption which could save between 5W and 40+W (Arc)
This one is readily available in the Asian Market so I was shocked to see it in our online stores(not Aliexpress)
you should try testing this new fps "the finals" as it's quite cpu demanding
I want to add that am4 is a dying/dead platform, and having am5 is a lot better for upgrading down the line.
great video can u make one for the R7 7700 non x
upgraded to AM5 and got the 7500F quit decent for the moment with a 7800 XT, the only thing i hate with DDR5 is the time it take to start... but after that everything is good, i just hope that AMD will have their new CPU like the 9000 series that will be able to adapt on the actual motherboard got myself a new b650 and just dont want to lose anydata and my moa would be useless in a few year...
Did you leave the voltage on auto or did you change it while doing PBO -30?
Auto
@@IcebergTech Thanks!
It looks like a crazy good value CPU for a new AM5 build. Similar performance to a 5600/5700 with DDR5 carrying the extra frames in for the same price as the older AM4 chips on a new generation of motherboards!
For new pc build under 500 dollars should i go with 5600 or 7500f
That IPC is insane when compared to Zen3. I think that I should've get a Zen4 CPU instead of my 5800X.
I feel the same way to, went from a 3800x to 5800x i kinda wish i just went AM5 instead
consider testing CPUs at 1080p high? it'll free up some gpu power in the resolution department to account for the higher settings. which could stress the CPU more.
also, I was looking at the ryzen 7000 lineup for a potential new computer in a few months. The 7500f was on my list. This video was timed extremely well, thank you!
The difference in price where I live is 30%+ between the AliExpress 7500F and 7600's where I live.. Hmmm.
What is the fps meter you use?
MSI Afterburner
Wake up babe, new IcebergTech video dropped
My b650m hdv that’s housing the 7800x3d was $99 paired at microcenter $20 off originally $119
So excited to see you review my favorite am5 CPU!
I got one cheap for $110
Wow that's a bargain 😅
@@TheChiro2000 I know, took me weeks to find such a deal
bro got the deal of the millenium
That's steal !!
good mainboard for the r5 7500f ? budget is 160-170 €
I only have experience of one board, and that's the one I used in the video. I recommend it, but I can't say for certain that it's the *best* choice. Check out Hardware Unboxed, I believe they have done a group test of B650 boards.
Does it mean you could save a couple bucks for very little fps difference ?
The 7500F is sold here just in stores, no back alleys needed. It is 180eur, a 7600 is about 230eur
the 7500f isn't sold officially here in australia. the savings are definitely worth it though, 200 dollars less than a 7600x
*Over here we have a Ryzen 5 7645 as well so maybe you should look into that aswell*
I've seen that one on TechPowerUp, but haven't seen it in the wild yet.
@@IcebergTech i have been eyeing a build with it as the Ryzen 7 5700x and Ryzen 5 5600 will cost with 10% of the Ryzen 5 7645 setup im eyeing so maybe i should pull the trigger?
@@erikbritz8095 Well, if you can get the Zen 4 setup for less than 10% more without making any major sacrifices elsewhere, that sounds like a good deal to me.
Should i buy ryzen 5 5600x or ryzen 5 7500f whats best for gaming ?
*Probably be my next CPU on the AM5 platform*
*Bold*
youre using my fav cpu cooler!
I’m seriously impressed with it so far