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and I just purchased VD from meta, started, being unable to run the game... so I started looking for help, found your video. I heard in it about referral link so, I refunded this VD to meta... and then read this comment, that referrals doesnt work :)))... I have to learn to act slower. So where do I have to follow you for such referral to work? I will follow, no problem :). EDIT OK I bought it again using welcome code and after watching your video it actually installed propertly. Thank you! :)
Best video tutorial on Virtual Desktop on UA-cam. Thanks so much for making this - huge help for getting setup on VD with my Quest 3. I find your videos to be far superior to any other channel. You strike a perfect balance of detail and length. You provide enough information and detail/explanation to help the user and you don't leave out important details like others do, but you also don't waste our time with needless blab and over-detail. Cheers, mate. You earned a new subscriber and a like. I only wish I had seen this before I purchased VD to get the discount! ;-)
Very well explained video. It’s also worth noting that if you want even more detail rendered than what godmode offers, that can be adjusted in Microsoft OpenXR tools bypassing Steam VR completely. Using VDXR on DCS I’ll set render at 200% which is something like 4412x4412 and either NIS scale that back a little or override resolution down to 3240x3240. Steam never launches
Cheers mate! Bought that exact router, and it arrived today. Bought myself a copy of Virtual Desktop and was confused by the settings. This video was perfect for me mate. 👍
Using your video to help fix playing vr games via VD. Never had issues on quest 2, but the quest 3 is unplayable. It stutters and lags all over the place and I have no idea what is going. Unfortunately Im still unable to fix it.
@@eternalglow6483 Hmm does his pc have to support wifi6 if he uses ethernet cable from the router tho? Isnt the glasses the only thing that needs to support it since it rely on wifi?
@@eternalglow6483 yeah i just spoke to the people on virtual desktop discord, they said the pc dosent even need to support wifi at all, as long as you run through ethernet.
What's with the massive amount of stuttering in the last part of the video? 11:54 Also, you don't explain 'why' we should go through the hassle of using Open Composite instead of just using SteamVR? Is it just the performance? I've tried using OpenXR Toolkit several times now in DCS Standalone (via link cable, not VD yet) and I don't see any difference in performance with any of the settings. The only setting that has ever made any difference is setting the encode bitrate in the OpenXR Debug Tool. My specs: 4080 Super/5800X3D/W10.
Great video got it to work great even just being wireless in the PC (no Ethernet cable) and the headset. My only issue is trying to get my VIVEPort ID so I can add them to it.
AV1 encoding is only supported by RTX 4xxx, Ryzen 7xxx and Intel Arc, anything less than that will only handle decoding. I have an RTX 3080 and are forced to use either H.264+ or HEVC (H.265) - I would recommend H.264 as it gives you a smoother experience at a little cost of image quality, compared to HEVC which on my system stutters like crazy.
Hi @HamVR , I am interested in using vd's new MR functionality so I can see my wheel while driving in VR. I was wondering did you ever try to setup VD wired with USBC to lan?
So, is the the 6e router replacing the pcs wifi? Then the quest is getting internet via the pc, wirelessly, but the important part is the Ethernet cable is sending packets ie no bottle necking to the quest from preloaded games. So again, the router is the quest to pc via router wifi. Virtual pc cloud gaming on your quest? Correct yes ...no
Is it possible to run OpenXR and Virtual Desktop Streamer downloaded on the computer in a wired konfiguration on Quest 3? Or will Virtual Desktop only work if i buy the Wireless version in quest store? Very helpful video by the way, thanks!
Great video; very useful. However, I have a question - the motherboard on my PC has built-in 6E WiFi, but my Quest 3 only connects at 5Ghz. Any ideas on how to get it to connect at 6Ghz?
Im only using the wireless part of this router for connection to the Quest 3. The router is Ethernet wired to my PC and the router is also wired to my broadband router.
Thanks great informative video but I can't see how to run Assetto Corsa or any other racing game without using Steam VR which my PC doesn't like? I can with the link cable and open composite etc but not with virtual desktop despite following the instructions....
Hello. How can I fix the display of the virtual desktop performance overlay to the bottom? Right now it is in the middle and it is in the way. I know how to turn off the display.
iam using wireless adapter wifi 6 with tp link ax55, iwant to get dedicated router for quest2,what router do you recommand for dedicated one,and if i have to connect both router togheter to get internet on quest?how do you setup,can somebody explain to me what i need
I don't have any kind of router because i use internet on my smartphone for PC via hotspot over wi-fi. So would you say it would work well if i just bought one of those more expensive PCI WI-FI 6e cards with antennas?
No, the PCIE WiFi card setups do not perform as well. Check out the Virtual Desktop Discord if in doubt. The recommended setup is a gaming PC connected to an VD approved router. Not all 6e routers perform/behave the same. Either get this specific model or check what other users have tested successfully with VD is the best way.
Thanks for the amazing video. If you please can share your experience about the stability of the TP-Link AXE5400 wifi 6e signal. Is it stable and gives improvements over 5ghz. You know some brands want to sell wifi 6e routers for gaming like 4 times the price of this TP-Link. Thx
Hello, Is this Virtual Desktop app the same as before? I had one with my oculus rift that I purchased in the oculus app. Is this the same one or do I need to purchase it again?
Apparently, Virtual Desktop limits Streaming bandwidth to 200mb/sec when using AV1 10-bit, even if one disables dynamic bandwidth adjustment in the streamer service running on one’s gaming PC. Very frustrating, as I’ve a totally clean WiFi 6E 6GHz network, & was eager to see what effect, if any, going to 500mb/sec would have.
Yeah I'm not sure why that is. Perhaps there's a decode rate limit on the XR2 processors and Guy put that in to reduce user complaints. Only the h.264+ will go up to 500Mbps. The other are restricted to 200Mbps.
Great video, clear explanation of a confusing subject. One question though; what settings are recommended in-game for ACC to get it to run optimally? Do you leave those as-is (I also have a 4090 and have most settings on Epic or High running 4K @ 120Hz on the monitor) and do all the resolution / framerate / image sharpening etc via Virtual Desktop only OR they need ro to be dialled down?
On a 4090 and OpenXR toolkit on Quest 3 you should be able to run VR Epic preset but with the VR Pixel Density turned down to 100% & Render Resolution 100%, Mirrors 50 meters and oponent cars 16.
For some reason my renderer resolution keeps going from from 100 to 80 and back again. For walk about mini golf it goes to 150. I have set nothing on automatic and set it manual on 100% but this it trows it on 150 for walk about and other games he just makes up a render resolution. Using the quest 3 codec. What I'm I doing wrong
You say wired link is the best visual experience. The problem is I have a RX 7900 XTX. From what I heard, Quest does not support AMD 7000 series cards using the link cable. Is this true? But VD is supposed to work with no issues. I would prefer to use the cable myself.
Hello HAMVR, thanks a lot for your guide! I got it working with all games. But i cant run the SteamVR app, it says no devices. What i cant find in your video and maybe you can give a hint, should i make Oculuss app running? Also run set the oculuss runtime as active in the oculuss app? Because i thought you bypass the oculuss app, because this would be OPENVR mode... What is did, open composite, turn swith to open open composite on... then start VD streamer and i want to run the STeamVR app... but it says no devices find (quest 3) thanks in advance for the help! really appreciate!
To launch SteamVR from Virtual Desktop, once you've got the VD Quest app connected to the VD Streamer App on PC, double press the options button on the left Quest controller to bring up VD settings and press the 'Launch SteamVR' menu button on the bottom left. This applies to playing OpenVR (SteamVR) games only and the VD Streamer App OpenXR runtime should be set to 'SteamVR' or 'Automatic'. If you use Oculus wired link and you want games that work with Open Composite, then you want Oculus App to be the default OpenXR runtime, if not you don't need the Oculus app or for it to be the default runtime. If you want to use Virtual Desktop in VDXR mode, then you want to set Virtual Desktop to be the default OpenXR runtime. Either do this by re-installing the Virtual Desktop Streamer App again or downloading github.com/WaGi-Coding/OpenXR-Runtime-Switcher and then pick the VitrtualDesktop and 'Make Active' to make it the default OpenXR runtime. To launch Open Composite games with VDXR, then don't start SteamVR but launch the game from the Steam 2D library menu and pick the game and select launch in SteamVR mode (see 11:12) this triggers to game to launch with VDXR, but does not actually launch SteamVR.
@@HamVR many thanks for the explanation, highly appreciated I dont use wiring, only streaming, because of motion. The Launch SteamVR i did withAUTO and VDXR, both dont get to see a quest 3 device, is this because i dont connect wired? Question 2: When i use the openXR runtime switcher, i now set oculus as active runtime, but i cant pick the VIRTUAL DESKTOP streamer as active runtime? Do you? Question 3: How do you use the upscaler to 1.5 with VDXR? Because when i use link i can do it with the oculuss app, do you know a bypass or should i use ODT? QUestion4: You dont use a FOV multiplier at 0.78 and 0.87 ?
What if I’m trying to play vr chat and it doesn’t connect at all when I open it through VD and says there’s an error, but if I open it on my oc and then connect Through VD it works but not the controls?
Hey, how do you open DCS with the Quest 3 in Virtual Desktop? I opened it once the first time and ever since it opens DCS in Virtual Desktop as if it’s 2D mode.
Depends which version of DCS you have, Steam or none Steam. You will need change the start command for OpenXR (or at least you did) forum.dcs.world/topic/318004-dcs-now-supports-openxr-natively/
in the setting I have max setting available 200MBps. When connected on VD status I see network throughput 760MBps. So any idea why, and if I can make use of full network capabilities? Secon question, how do I know which OpenXR to use? In general I have issues with Running Rez Infinite and trying to solve them...
Help! Followed your link for virtual desktop for discount, it says you must be following each other on meta quest before accepting their link. How to follow on meta quest?
hi sir, 2 days back i purchased quest 3. when i try to connect it to pc via air link the pc oculus app is asking to purchase it. is there any simple way to transfer files from pc to quest 3 ?
I wish that Link would be a viable way to stream, since I don't have a Wifi6 router and the router is two rooms away from my PC (which is connected via cable to the router).
Having a latency of 40 ms is it not to much? do you fell lag when looking left to right? using the wire connection to the pc you still have this latency ?
System i9-11900K, 32gb ram, RTX3090, Virgin 1gig internet, Quest 3. Followed all of your setup suggestions in VD, but FSVR freezes or CTD when hitting Fly button in FSVR interface. FSVR settings all set to medium graphics in TAA mode, also tried Nvidia DLSS. Tried various settings but FSVR does not like my Quest 3. I also have a Pico 4 and that works fine in FSVR and has never CTD. Can you help, please?
Thanks for this excellent and very concise guide. This has improved my SkyrimVR experience immensely! I notice in your demonstration, you go up to 500mbps. I have the TP Link Archer 6e router dedicated just for my VR PC. I have a Quest 3 and in VD streaming settings my bandwidth is limited to 200mbps. How can I get virtual desktop streaming bitrate to go up to 500? It doesn’t even offer above 200. I’m using AV1 10-bit/SteamVR. PC specs: 4090 RTX Win10 Pro Core i7 13700 32GB DDR5 THANK YOU!
See 4:54 You need to use the H.264+ codec and deselect the 'auotmatically adjust bitrare' checkbox in the desktop streamer app to have up to 500Mbps available. If it's still not available, it's possible VD has been updated since this video was made. I've not re-tested this recently to check.
I brought a wifi 6e router the TP-Link AXE5400, and it shall only be used for the VR and nothing else, so i should be able to go up the max bitrate, should i use h264+ or AV1 10 bit? i have a 4080
H264+ provides the highest video bitrate option and Is the best option if you are stood near your router. If your router is far away and you are bit rate limited (e.g. transmitting WiFi through walls or noisy WiFi etc) AV1 or HEVC could give you better results at lower bit rates.
@@HamVR Okay thank you for your reply, yes i shall be stood next to it, so bitrate will be a non issue, i just want the best picture quality as i have seen many people saying use AV1 anyway due to better colours?
I plan to use the link cable to my Windows 11 machine for iracing. With the intention of just using virtual desktop and open XR and getting rid of the Oculus app to free up FPS. So will this work with the link cable as well and that configuration?
for some reason when i play dirt 2 using virtual desktop open xr i have video comprassion bad quality artefacts. Like if you are looking on youtube video. Especialy if i look far away. Is that bitrate problem or? idk
Dirt Rally 2 forest areas look bad over video compression. Use H264+ and high bit rate if your WiFi can handle it or better still wired link. Also 72Hz will look better than 80Hz, 90hz or 120hz video compression wise over the same bitrate.
Hey @Ham VR my Virtual desktop disconnects from my pc on the hour, every hour, just for a moment and when it does the audio in Skyrim VR cuts off, requiring a restart. any clue why or any fixes you know of? any help would be greatly apricated fanx
Hmm if it’s precisely on the hour every hour, could it be you’ve got another wireless device (perhaps a clock) nearby or time lapse wireless camera that’s interfering? You could try a different WiFi channel and see if that makes a difference. Also check on the Virtual Desktop Discord with other users of your router to see if that has issue. If it’s the one in the video it should be fine as that’s the one I’m using.
So, link cable for seated play like Sim Racing, but VD(that's a fitting acronym) for dancing on thots in VRChat. I don't think VRC supports OpenXR though. Got it.
Latency is usually lower with higher bandwidth connections. The WiFi standard and frequency will also affect the experience. WiFi 6e 6Ghz is the best option at the moment for Quest 3.
Hi. I have just got the meta quest 3 and looking for something to do pcvr gaming. I tried using the immersed app yesterday as it was free but it stuttered when trying to play. Would VD be better?
Yes VD performs better over WiFi as does Steam Link (also free) built into Steam. If you playing seated, go for wired connection for the best experience.
@@wolfhenschke1663 better. I have bought a new router today though, so I’ll do some testing with both VD and Steam Link and see if this still persists.
@@wolfhenschke1663 I did more testing and I found that Steam Link had less latency and felt a tiny bit more responsive, it also stuttered a lot more than VD did. I also had a weird graphical issue in Skyrim while using Steam Link that I didn’t have with VD. Still trying to figure that one out.
Yes, you can run Sony remote play on your PC and use Virtual Desktop to connect to your PC to see it. I’d make sure your PC and PS5 are on the same wired network to reduce latency.
Thank you for the video! I have a question though, how do you have your Mbps consistently at 2400 range? Mine has been jumping from 2400 to 1400 and not sure what the problem is.
Which router do you have? If it's the same as mine (TP-Link Archer75), create a different Wifi name and password for the 6Ghz band to the 5/2.4Ghz band. Also set the 6Ghz channel width to the one with the 160Mhz range.
bro I can’t understand, I also bought a Quest 3 router. But the bitrate is either 300 or 250, I don’t understand how to make it 500 or does it depend on the card, I think 3080 and 5800x3d
Even with OG link cable with dedicated USB3.2 port it lags. I use it for sim racing and it is relatively demanding in responsiveness but it is disappointing. Quest 3 is not made for PCVR.
Great video, thank you for these settings videos. I recently purchased the same TP Link Router as well. Do you prefer virtual desktop over using quest link which is what I have been using?
Pro and cons with either. Quest link is the easiest to setup and gives the best image. Virtual Desktop with Quest 3 gets around USB problems, allows for Chroma key passthrough and let's AMS2 run with the OpenXR Toolkit. It's also better for standing VR until the battery runs out.
@@HamVR So in other words if you want the best image and play for hours PCVR and if you want to play with out cable Virtual Desktop with good image for 1 or 2 hours .
Thanks a lot for the video. May I ask: Virtual desktop app is available for both PC (windows 11) and meta quest3. Do you need both of these? It seems clear to me on the Quest3, but what is the Virtual desktop for on Windows 11? Thanks for a reply :-)
You need the Quest version for playing wireless on Quest. The classic version is for wired headsets, so that you can interact with Windows desktop apps and view 3D and 360 videos in VR. The classic version is not widely used in comparison to the Quest or Pico version of the apps with both use Virtual Desktop streamer app.
It's because it's not the PC capture, it's Quest video captured via SideQuest (which isn't ideal) so I could capture the Virtual Desktop menu info direct to the PC with OBS. Other capturing options include casting or recording on the headset, but this was the easiest at the time. The view in the headset is much sharper than Rift-S (having owned one) and better than Quest 2.
Hello, I just got a meta quest 3 and am brand new to VR gaming in general. This may be a dumb question, but do I need to be plugged into my computer to use virtual desktop? If I purchase virtual desktop, can I play steam games without being plugged into my computer?
Might seem a silly question, but what sort of height and orientation are your router and the antennae set at (assuming its in the same room as you for obvious reasons). I have this exact model and my connection isn't locked at 2.4Ghz, kind of concluded I haven't got it optimally placed but I don't know how to improve it?
Height and orientation doesn't mean anything. You need to have 5g or 6g for it to be playable. I have a 6g and I can play fine from my basement while my PC is upstairs. No matter where u place ur router it won't matter cuz it's obviously weak. Ur gonna have to wire
Hi, very useful guide. Dont know if you can help, but in ACC the menu's and HUD are all skewed weird, in vdxr. Game runs great, just that. Through steam its all fine, but obviously looks worse
@@HamVR not a bad shout, I'll try that. Will also try disabling open xr toolkit. Do you run dlss? I vaguely remember that being an issue a long time ago but was fixed.
I have read that it is best to set the dedicated router as an access point, wire both it and your PC to the main router. That way you eleiminate potential networking conflicts between the two routers.
Well, I did not go through all this for my Quest 3. I just got a USB Link cable to attach to my Quest 3 to play any PCVR SIM racing games. The games all work great for me and run all of them by selecting the Oculus VR play mode. I don't see a need for this additional piece of software to do my PCVR gaming. May work for you, but I don't see the need for it since I am just sitting down and doing SIM racing. Simple hookup, and all works for me. But if I ever do need Virtual Desktop, I know what video to watch again. Take care.
This is really for people that need to play VR wirelessly. Steam Link is pretty good now but it still runs via SteamVR which add a performance overhead. VDXR lets you bypass StemVR, for OpenXR games and is a bit more efficient.
Didnt help at all, all im trying to make work is making my hands work when I'm opening VRChat, along side with SteamVR not crashing when I'm opening it from the quest 3... have had the headset for nearly a week and haven't nearly used it since I cant find a way to fix this... Virtuel desktop was brought since I was told it would make it easier.. spoilers it didn't, and I'm so close to just return the damn thing... by this point its more trouble then its worth..
Apologies the Virtual Desktop Referral code has ended. Meta changed rules recently, meaning the referrer and recipient must now be following each other which isn't manageable.
and I just purchased VD from meta, started, being unable to run the game... so I started looking for help, found your video. I heard in it about referral link so, I refunded this VD to meta... and then read this comment, that referrals doesnt work :)))... I have to learn to act slower. So where do I have to follow you for such referral to work? I will follow, no problem :). EDIT OK I bought it again using welcome code and after watching your video it actually installed propertly. Thank you! :)
Almost a year later still the best video for a newbie PCVR guy with a Quest 3 and PSVR2.
Thank you!
I'll check out your other vids.
Best video tutorial on Virtual Desktop on UA-cam. Thanks so much for making this - huge help for getting setup on VD with my Quest 3. I find your videos to be far superior to any other channel. You strike a perfect balance of detail and length. You provide enough information and detail/explanation to help the user and you don't leave out important details like others do, but you also don't waste our time with needless blab and over-detail. Cheers, mate. You earned a new subscriber and a like. I only wish I had seen this before I purchased VD to get the discount! ;-)
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Ham, this is exactly the type of guide I was looking for. Concise and accurate.
Thank you. I followed this guide and now Skyrim VR looks so sharp in VR.
Great vid! It answered the 50 Reddit posts i made that nobody answered
Very well explained video. It’s also worth noting that if you want even more detail rendered than what godmode offers, that can be adjusted in Microsoft OpenXR tools bypassing Steam VR completely. Using VDXR on DCS I’ll set render at 200% which is something like 4412x4412 and either NIS scale that back a little or override resolution down to 3240x3240. Steam never launches
Cheers mate! Bought that exact router, and it arrived today. Bought myself a copy of Virtual Desktop and was confused by the settings. This video was perfect for me mate. 👍
Great to hear!
Very helpful explanations. Thank you for breaking Virtual Desktop down.
dude you just solved all of my issues with ghosts of tabor ive been having. thank you so so so so so much
Thank you! Can you please share the ACC in game settings to get 90fps with this setup? Thank you!
Using your video to help fix playing vr games via VD. Never had issues on quest 2, but the quest 3 is unplayable. It stutters and lags all over the place and I have no idea what is going. Unfortunately Im still unable to fix it.
Wired doesn’t seem to work on meta store or steam respectively. Still looking into it
Were you able to get this working??
Your PC might not support wifi 6, and wifi 6 router is required for virtual desktop to run well
@@eternalglow6483 Hmm does his pc have to support wifi6 if he uses ethernet cable from the router tho? Isnt the glasses the only thing that needs to support it since it rely on wifi?
@@eternalglow6483 yeah i just spoke to the people on virtual desktop discord, they said the pc dosent even need to support wifi at all, as long as you run through ethernet.
What's with the massive amount of stuttering in the last part of the video? 11:54 Also, you don't explain 'why' we should go through the hassle of using Open Composite instead of just using SteamVR? Is it just the performance? I've tried using OpenXR Toolkit several times now in DCS Standalone (via link cable, not VD yet) and I don't see any difference in performance with any of the settings. The only setting that has ever made any difference is setting the encode bitrate in the OpenXR Debug Tool. My specs: 4080 Super/5800X3D/W10.
Performance is great on an oculus. Steamvr doesnt have any upscaling features while OC does.
thank you so much! the codec changed everything! before it was so laggy and stuttered all the time!
Very Informative particularly in VD and Steam VR Settings. Thank you for sharing this information and video!
Very useful video thank you, i have just upgraded to the quest 3 from the q2, and this will help greatly to set up virtual desktop
Great video got it to work great even just being wireless in the PC (no Ethernet cable) and the headset. My only issue is trying to get my VIVEPort ID so I can add them to it.
This is the best Quick overall tutorial for VD I ever seen, Thank you 😎🙏
I want to know how to make my headset compatible with chrome via virtual desktop to view virtual content in chrome
AV1 encoding is only supported by RTX 4xxx, Ryzen 7xxx and Intel Arc, anything less than that will only handle decoding.
I have an RTX 3080 and are forced to use either H.264+ or HEVC (H.265) - I would recommend H.264 as it gives you a smoother experience at a little cost of image quality, compared to HEVC which on my system stutters like crazy.
Hi @HamVR , I am interested in using vd's new MR functionality so I can see my wheel while driving in VR. I was wondering did you ever try to setup VD wired with USBC to lan?
Good Intro into the latest developments and I'm looking forward to the incoming setup to run Virtual Triple Screens 🤩🤩🤩
So, is the the 6e router replacing the pcs wifi?
Then the quest is getting internet via the pc, wirelessly, but the important part is the Ethernet cable is sending packets ie no bottle necking to the quest from preloaded games.
So again, the router is the quest to pc via router wifi. Virtual pc cloud gaming on your quest?
Correct yes ...no
Wish I knew about your refferal link before I bought virtual desktop, Oh well, thanks for the turotial
Is it possible to run OpenXR and Virtual Desktop Streamer downloaded on the computer in a wired konfiguration on Quest 3? Or will Virtual Desktop only work if i buy the Wireless version in quest store? Very helpful video by the way, thanks!
Great video; very useful. However, I have a question - the motherboard on my PC has built-in 6E WiFi, but my Quest 3 only connects at 5Ghz. Any ideas on how to get it to connect at 6Ghz?
Great video. To confirm, are you just connecting the TP wireless router "wirelessly" to an existing wireless network in the house?
Im only using the wireless part of this router for connection to the Quest 3. The router is Ethernet wired to my PC and the router is also wired to my broadband router.
So the settings wheel at 7:32 isn’t there for me :/
Looked smoother on the steam VR version so expect all that openXR stuff. Too much messing about for me. Especially as it looked worse.
Thanks great informative video but I can't see how to run Assetto Corsa or any other racing game without using Steam VR which my PC doesn't like? I can with the link cable and open composite etc but not with virtual desktop despite following the instructions....
Hello.
How can I fix the display of the virtual desktop performance overlay to the bottom?
Right now it is in the middle and it is in the way.
I know how to turn off the display.
iam using wireless adapter wifi 6 with tp link ax55, iwant to get dedicated router for quest2,what router do you recommand for dedicated one,and if i have to connect both router togheter to get internet on quest?how do you setup,can somebody explain to me what i need
I don't have any kind of router because i use internet on my smartphone for PC via hotspot over wi-fi. So would you say it would work well if i just bought one of those more expensive PCI WI-FI 6e cards with antennas?
No, the PCIE WiFi card setups do not perform as well. Check out the Virtual Desktop Discord if in doubt. The recommended setup is a gaming PC connected to an VD approved router. Not all 6e routers perform/behave the same. Either get this specific model or check what other users have tested successfully with VD is the best way.
Thanks for the amazing video. If you please can share your experience about the stability of the TP-Link AXE5400 wifi 6e signal. Is it stable and gives improvements over 5ghz. You know some brands want to sell wifi 6e routers for gaming like 4 times the price of this TP-Link. Thx
Hello,
Is this Virtual Desktop app the same as before? I had one with my oculus rift that I purchased in the oculus app. Is this the same one or do I need to purchase it again?
Apparently, Virtual Desktop limits Streaming bandwidth to 200mb/sec when using AV1 10-bit, even if one disables dynamic bandwidth adjustment in the streamer service running on one’s gaming PC.
Very frustrating, as I’ve a totally clean WiFi 6E 6GHz network, & was eager to see what effect, if any, going to 500mb/sec would have.
Yeah I'm not sure why that is. Perhaps there's a decode rate limit on the XR2 processors and Guy put that in to reduce user complaints. Only the h.264+ will go up to 500Mbps. The other are restricted to 200Mbps.
This is an old comment but is greater than 200 really necessary for AV1?
@@rollerr- not necessary, but I’ve a beefy gaming PC & a clean WiFi 6E network, so I could push even more.
Great video, clear explanation of a confusing subject.
One question though; what settings are recommended in-game for ACC to get it to run optimally?
Do you leave those as-is (I also have a 4090 and have most settings on Epic or High running 4K @ 120Hz on the monitor) and do all the resolution / framerate / image sharpening etc via Virtual Desktop only OR they need ro to be dialled down?
On a 4090 and OpenXR toolkit on Quest 3 you should be able to run VR Epic preset but with the VR Pixel Density turned down to 100% & Render Resolution 100%, Mirrors 50 meters and oponent cars 16.
Thanks for the details, will try that and see how it goes!
My question is is when i play i video that is SBS but mirrored; How do i change left to right?
For some reason my renderer resolution keeps going from from 100 to 80 and back again. For walk about mini golf it goes to 150. I have set nothing on automatic and set it manual on 100% but this it trows it on 150 for walk about and other games he just makes up a render resolution. Using the quest 3 codec. What I'm I doing wrong
You say wired link is the best visual experience. The problem is I have a RX 7900 XTX. From what I heard, Quest does not support AMD 7000 series cards using the link cable. Is this true? But VD is supposed to work with no issues. I would prefer to use the cable myself.
Hello HAMVR, thanks a lot for your guide! I got it working with all games. But i cant run the SteamVR app, it says no devices.
What i cant find in your video and maybe you can give a hint, should i make Oculuss app running? Also run set the oculuss runtime as active in the oculuss app?
Because i thought you bypass the oculuss app, because this would be OPENVR mode...
What is did, open composite, turn swith to open open composite on... then start VD streamer and i want to run the STeamVR app... but it says no devices find (quest 3)
thanks in advance for the help! really appreciate!
To launch SteamVR from Virtual Desktop, once you've got the VD Quest app connected to the VD Streamer App on PC, double press the options button on the left Quest controller to bring up VD settings and press the 'Launch SteamVR' menu button on the bottom left. This applies to playing OpenVR (SteamVR) games only and the VD Streamer App OpenXR runtime should be set to 'SteamVR' or 'Automatic'.
If you use Oculus wired link and you want games that work with Open Composite, then you want Oculus App to be the default OpenXR runtime, if not you don't need the Oculus app or for it to be the default runtime.
If you want to use Virtual Desktop in VDXR mode, then you want to set Virtual Desktop to be the default OpenXR runtime. Either do this by re-installing the Virtual Desktop Streamer App again or downloading github.com/WaGi-Coding/OpenXR-Runtime-Switcher and then pick the VitrtualDesktop and 'Make Active' to make it the default OpenXR runtime. To launch Open Composite games with VDXR, then don't start SteamVR but launch the game from the Steam 2D library menu and pick the game and select launch in SteamVR mode (see 11:12) this triggers to game to launch with VDXR, but does not actually launch SteamVR.
@@HamVR many thanks for the explanation, highly appreciated
I dont use wiring, only streaming, because of motion.
The Launch SteamVR i did withAUTO and VDXR, both dont get to see a quest 3 device, is this because i dont connect wired?
Question 2: When i use the openXR runtime switcher, i now set oculus as active runtime, but i cant pick the VIRTUAL DESKTOP streamer as active runtime? Do you?
Question 3:
How do you use the upscaler to 1.5 with VDXR? Because when i use link i can do it with the oculuss app, do you know a bypass or should i use ODT?
QUestion4:
You dont use a FOV multiplier at 0.78 and 0.87 ?
What if I’m trying to play vr chat and it doesn’t connect at all when I open it through VD and says there’s an error, but if I open it on my oc and then connect Through VD it works but not the controls?
Hey, how do you open DCS with the Quest 3 in Virtual Desktop? I opened it once the first time and ever since it opens DCS in Virtual Desktop as if it’s 2D mode.
Depends which version of DCS you have, Steam or none Steam. You will need change the start command for OpenXR (or at least you did)
forum.dcs.world/topic/318004-dcs-now-supports-openxr-natively/
in the setting I have max setting available 200MBps. When connected on VD status I see network throughput 760MBps. So any idea why, and if I can make use of full network capabilities?
Secon question, how do I know which OpenXR to use?
In general I have issues with Running Rez Infinite and trying to solve them...
Help!
Followed your link for virtual desktop for discount, it says you must be following each other on meta quest before accepting their link. How to follow on meta quest?
Should have recommended the referral code before the end of that part, already got it before that step
hi sir, 2 days back i purchased quest 3. when i try to connect it to pc via air link the pc oculus app is asking to purchase it. is there any simple way to transfer files from pc to quest 3 ?
Please help! Virtual desktop runs perfectly, but steamvr stutters and is completely unusable. Any idea how to fix? Running an nvidia rtx4500
Hi, so to have the best visuals in automobilista 2 is better running VD?!? I am on 4090
Dear Dir. Many thanks for your support and content. Can I ask a qurstion Re Q2 please?
I bought virtual desktop when I got my quest 1 it's my favorite app
Hi, i was tryign to use your referall link but it says that both of us need to follow on meta to be able to use it
I wish that Link would be a viable way to stream, since I don't have a Wifi6 router and the router is two rooms away from my PC (which is connected via cable to the router).
Ahoj jak máš nastavenou wifi na Archer75 jen 6Ghz pásmo nebo máš zapnutou 2,4 a 5Ghz pásmo?
Спасибо большое друг!
do i need 2.5gig ethernet card to take advatange of wifi 6e bandwith?
Having a latency of 40 ms is it not to much? do you fell lag when looking left to right? using the wire connection to the pc you still have this latency ?
Some of my games on the oculus quest 3 library arent appearing on the virtual desktop games selection, do you know why this is happening?
Problem that I have is I canot use Occulus Miror with VDXR so how do you use OBS to record with Virtual Desktop and VDXR ??
System i9-11900K, 32gb ram, RTX3090, Virgin 1gig internet, Quest 3. Followed all of your setup suggestions in VD, but FSVR freezes or CTD when hitting Fly button in FSVR interface. FSVR settings all set to medium graphics in TAA mode, also tried Nvidia DLSS. Tried various settings but FSVR does not like my Quest 3. I also have a Pico 4 and that works fine in FSVR and has never CTD. Can you help, please?
@@ianhartland2541 have you tried turning it off and on?
Thanks for this excellent and very concise guide. This has improved my SkyrimVR experience immensely!
I notice in your demonstration, you go up to 500mbps.
I have the TP Link Archer 6e router dedicated just for my VR PC. I have a Quest 3 and in VD streaming settings my bandwidth is limited to 200mbps.
How can I get virtual desktop streaming bitrate to go up to 500? It doesn’t even offer above 200.
I’m using AV1 10-bit/SteamVR.
PC specs:
4090 RTX
Win10 Pro
Core i7 13700
32GB DDR5
THANK YOU!
See 4:54 You need to use the H.264+ codec and deselect the 'auotmatically adjust bitrare' checkbox in the desktop streamer app to have up to 500Mbps available. If it's still not available, it's possible VD has been updated since this video was made. I've not re-tested this recently to check.
I brought a wifi 6e router the TP-Link AXE5400, and it shall only be used for the VR and nothing else, so i should be able to go up the max bitrate, should i use h264+ or AV1 10 bit? i have a 4080
H264+ provides the highest video bitrate option and Is the best option if you are stood near your router. If your router is far away and you are bit rate limited (e.g. transmitting WiFi through walls or noisy WiFi etc) AV1 or HEVC could give you better results at lower bit rates.
@@HamVR Okay thank you for your reply, yes i shall be stood next to it, so bitrate will be a non issue, i just want the best picture quality as i have seen many people saying use AV1 anyway due to better colours?
I plan to use the link cable to my Windows 11 machine for iracing. With the intention of just using virtual desktop and open XR and getting rid of the Oculus app to free up FPS. So will this work with the link cable as well and that configuration?
Virtual desktop only works through a network link and not through meta link app. So you can't use the cable with virtual desktop
for some reason when i play dirt 2 using virtual desktop open xr i have video comprassion bad quality artefacts. Like if you are looking on youtube video. Especialy if i look far away. Is that bitrate problem or? idk
Dirt Rally 2 forest areas look bad over video compression. Use H264+ and high bit rate if your WiFi can handle it or better still wired link. Also 72Hz will look better than 80Hz, 90hz or 120hz video compression wise over the same bitrate.
@@HamVR ooou cool. how i spossible that 72 will look better? and can you explain why h264+ is better than the 10bit?
Hey @Ham VR my Virtual desktop disconnects from my pc on the hour, every hour, just for a moment and when it does the audio in Skyrim VR cuts off, requiring a restart. any clue why or any fixes you know of? any help would be greatly apricated fanx
Hmm if it’s precisely on the hour every hour, could it be you’ve got another wireless device (perhaps a clock) nearby or time lapse wireless camera that’s interfering? You could try a different WiFi channel and see if that makes a difference. Also check on the Virtual Desktop Discord with other users of your router to see if that has issue. If it’s the one in the video it should be fine as that’s the one I’m using.
So, link cable for seated play like Sim Racing, but VD(that's a fitting acronym) for dancing on thots in VRChat. I don't think VRC supports OpenXR though.
Got it.
can this be done without connecting directly to the wifi router ?
Does having a 1gbps ethernet connection limit it more that a router with a 2.4gbps connection?
Latency is usually lower with higher bandwidth connections. The WiFi standard and frequency will also affect the experience. WiFi 6e 6Ghz is the best option at the moment for Quest 3.
Does Link connection has better quality in compare with Wifi 6 using VD?
Yes since you can push the video bit rate higher.
quick question. I use a link cable for the quest 3. Is it worth buying VD for link cable only and will it work with the quest 3?
As far as I know VD only works over Wifi and does not work via Link Cable.
Steam been terrible past week kn pcvr
Any others havin same issues
Hi. I have just got the meta quest 3 and looking for something to do pcvr gaming. I tried using the immersed app yesterday as it was free but it stuttered when trying to play. Would VD be better?
Yes VD performs better over WiFi as does Steam Link (also free) built into Steam. If you playing seated, go for wired connection for the best experience.
is airlink / steamvr enough these days? or is virtual desktop still worth it?
@@wolfhenschke1663 I bought it yesterday and noticed a big difference in performance and clarity. Compared to Steam Link at least.
@fenrirIO better or worse
@@wolfhenschke1663 better. I have bought a new router today though, so I’ll do some testing with both VD and Steam Link and see if this still persists.
@@fenrirIO would be glad to hear from your testing results. Many options available there for both programs
@@wolfhenschke1663 I did more testing and I found that Steam Link had less latency and felt a tiny bit more responsive, it also stuttered a lot more than VD did. I also had a weird graphical issue in Skyrim while using Steam Link that I didn’t have with VD. Still trying to figure that one out.
Se podrá usar el virtual desktop para conectar la ps5 atraves del remote play?
Yes, you can run Sony remote play on your PC and use Virtual Desktop to connect to your PC to see it. I’d make sure your PC and PS5 are on the same wired network to reduce latency.
Thank you for the video! I have a question though, how do you have your Mbps consistently at 2400 range? Mine has been jumping from 2400 to 1400 and not sure what the problem is.
Which router do you have? If it's the same as mine (TP-Link Archer75), create a different Wifi name and password for the 6Ghz band to the 5/2.4Ghz band. Also set the 6Ghz channel width to the one with the 160Mhz range.
Its a known issue, Meta and TP-Link are already working on it.
@@Vali7757 how do you know that? Where do you get that info from?
why do we need 1400-2400 mbps connection when the stream itself is 100-400 mbps?
not only tp link. i got a Wifi7 U7Pro Ubiquiti AC. Same Problem.@@Vali7757
bro I can’t understand, I also bought a Quest 3 router. But the bitrate is either 300 or 250, I don’t understand how to make it 500 or does it depend on the card, I think 3080 and 5800x3d
Look at 5:00 did pick H.264+ and uncheck the auto adjust bitrate checkbox in the Virtual Desktop Stream app.
Even with OG link cable with dedicated USB3.2 port it lags. I use it for sim racing and it is relatively demanding in responsiveness but it is disappointing. Quest 3 is not made for PCVR.
How do you open the steam Vr menu
Great video, thank you for these settings videos. I recently purchased the same TP Link Router as well. Do you prefer virtual desktop over using quest link which is what I have been using?
Pro and cons with either. Quest link is the easiest to setup and gives the best image. Virtual Desktop with Quest 3 gets around USB problems, allows for Chroma key passthrough and let's AMS2 run with the OpenXR Toolkit. It's also better for standing VR until the battery runs out.
@@HamVR Thank you for the feedback, I will buy and setup Virtual Desktop this evening.
@@HamVR So in other words if you want the best image and play for hours PCVR and if you want to play with out cable Virtual Desktop with good image for 1 or 2 hours .
Virtual Desktop is pretty slick, thanks for pointing me in the right direction@@HamVR
How do I see the VR Runtime?????
Thanks a lot for the video. May I ask: Virtual desktop app is available for both PC (windows 11) and meta quest3. Do you need both of these? It seems clear to me on the Quest3, but what is the Virtual desktop for on Windows 11? Thanks for a reply :-)
You need the Quest version for playing wireless on Quest. The classic version is for wired headsets, so that you can interact with Windows desktop apps and view 3D and 360 videos in VR. The classic version is not widely used in comparison to the Quest or Pico version of the apps with both use Virtual Desktop streamer app.
Why does the anti aliasing look so bad when doing pcvr with quest 3. I never noticed it looking like that on my rift s.
It's because it's not the PC capture, it's Quest video captured via SideQuest (which isn't ideal) so I could capture the Virtual Desktop menu info direct to the PC with OBS. Other capturing options include casting or recording on the headset, but this was the easiest at the time. The view in the headset is much sharper than Rift-S (having owned one) and better than Quest 2.
@HamVR I wasn't talking about your capture I was talking about my pcvr experience using a quest 3. The aliasing looks so bad.
Hello, I just got a meta quest 3 and am brand new to VR gaming in general. This may be a dumb question, but do I need to be plugged into my computer to use virtual desktop? If I purchase virtual desktop, can I play steam games without being plugged into my computer?
If you buy the Meta Quest version of Virtual Desktop you can play wireless. The version on Steam in the classic version for wired play only.
Might seem a silly question, but what sort of height and orientation are your router and the antennae set at (assuming its in the same room as you for obvious reasons). I have this exact model and my connection isn't locked at 2.4Ghz, kind of concluded I haven't got it optimally placed but I don't know how to improve it?
Height and orientation doesn't mean anything. You need to have 5g or 6g for it to be playable. I have a 6g and I can play fine from my basement while my PC is upstairs. No matter where u place ur router it won't matter cuz it's obviously weak. Ur gonna have to wire
My router is at desk height about 2m away from me currently. If I start glowing I will let you know.
The Nvidia RTX 30 series also has the ability to Av1 hardware decoding.
It needs AV1 encoding to send Quest 3 to decode.
@@HamVR I meant encoding sorry. The RTX 30 can also encode AV1 too.
Can i play skyrim with a macbook pro 13 ?
Hi, very useful guide. Dont know if you can help, but in ACC the menu's and HUD are all skewed weird, in vdxr. Game runs great, just that. Through steam its all fine, but obviously looks worse
Not sure. You could try changing the resolution of the 2D screen to something else lower in the games video options. Try full screen v widowered.
@@HamVR not a bad shout, I'll try that. Will also try disabling open xr toolkit. Do you run dlss? I vaguely remember that being an issue a long time ago but was fixed.
@@HamVR I got it sussed out. It was because on my G2 I was using a custom fov in open xr toolkit, and it seems to move the menus around.
@@HamVR one other question if i may, do you run the open xr resolution at 100%? I always ran around 80% on my G2. On a 4090 by the way
I can go above 316 bitrate i dont understand why
3:35 so should we also have the same settings on the right? You just jump right into a game and don't explain why you have the settings on the right.
Most of those are default which I didn't change. I don't cover every setting to keep the video brief.
@@HamVR understood. Thanks. I followed this video!
What Ethernet cable do you use
@@Beezy-Bee1 Cat 6 or higher should do. Cat7 recommended
If I'm only gonna be using 90fps, should I enable or disable 120hz on the Quest 3 itself?
I would turn it off, you will save a little battery life on the Quest 3 menu screens.
what do you think about SteamLink ?
Do you definitely need to have the router plugged into the PC? My PC is upstairs and the new router would be downstairs…
I have read that it is best to set the dedicated router as an access point, wire both it and your PC to the main router. That way you eleiminate potential networking conflicts between the two routers.
Well, I did not go through all this for my Quest 3. I just got a USB Link cable to attach to my Quest 3 to play any PCVR SIM racing games. The games all work great for me and run all of them by selecting the Oculus VR play mode.
I don't see a need for this additional piece of software to do my PCVR gaming. May work for you, but I don't see the need for it since I am just sitting down and doing SIM racing. Simple hookup, and all works for me.
But if I ever do need Virtual Desktop, I know what video to watch again.
Take care.
This is really for people that need to play VR wirelessly. Steam Link is pretty good now but it still runs via SteamVR which add a performance overhead. VDXR lets you bypass StemVR, for OpenXR games and is a bit more efficient.
How come u got 500mb bit rate? Mine is 400 :( no option for 500
Ooh fixed it after I did what u said I had to quit virtual desktop then it worked
Didnt help at all,
all im trying to make work is making my hands work when I'm opening VRChat, along side with SteamVR not crashing when I'm opening it from the quest 3... have had the headset for nearly a week and haven't nearly used it since I cant find a way to fix this... Virtuel desktop was brought since I was told it would make it easier.. spoilers it didn't, and I'm so close to just return the damn thing... by this point its more trouble then its worth..
I don't understand why I need a new router to use this thing with pc. Can't I just buy a cable and run my Steam games like that
Is that the best router for wireless pcvr?
@@TeamArmagedd0n just get a cheap 6e router and use it just for VR.
No more 25% it seems, it proposes only 10% discount.
Oh.. Sorry about that. Meta must have changed it 😢 Edit: It's still showing 25% off for me with cookies off 🤷♂
@@HamVR I found another code meanwhile and got the 25% :-) Nice software!
Thanks !