Check out the runners who helped make this video possible! AndrewG: www.twitch.tv/andrewg Kosmic: www.twitch.tv/kosmic Kriller: www.twitch.tv/kriller37 Mav6771: www.twitch.tv/mav6771 Miniland: www.twitch.tv/miniland333 StuckInAPlate: www.twitch.tv/stuckinaplate
You see, SummonimgSalt Videos are just like waiting at a bus stop, you wait until the "BusStop reference" bus comes to pick you up and moves you Into bliss
He could make paint drying entertaining. I was like sweating on the toilet watching this 😅 his voice is so relaxing and the videos are edited to perfection. Summoning salt speed runned into my heart.
I think my favorite progression in these stories is always the slow transition from “impossible for humans to achieve” to “regarded as impossible for humans” to “being attempted by top runners” to “it was finally achieved by”
@@Heydelios I've seen another step where it becomes the suboptimal strategy and is eventually replaced by another technique ranging from exactly 0 frames better to several hours off the record compared to previous methods' best times, depending on the game. Speedrunners are determined. In a few more decades they'll be beating games before they're even ideas in the creator's mind. "How is exactly 0 frames an improvement?" Because the other method requires less effort or training to learn/execute. Getting the same completion time for less button presses *IS* an improvement, even if it isn't applicable to the leaderboards.
My favorite part about summoning salt is how he’ll be talking about how someone made an extremely important discovery and then their name is something like “420_blazit” or something.
@@dahleno2014 Considering the amount of time, research and effort required to make these videos, is that really so surprising? ... You do have enough brain power to consider that, right?
When I hear "impossible" "too precise" or "too difficult for a human" in the speedrunning community I end up translating it to "give us a bit we'll figure it out"
@@VccTn its just a quirk of english, i dont know the name of it, but when you use words like "we" or "us", it isnt clear if it includes the person being spoken to. (i.e "we just won the lottery", its unclear if the speaker is referring to themself and others or themself and you, the listener)
@@VccTnhow would you know they don’t run. Zero indication of that. Also rich you’re correcting someone’s grammar when you can’t even type to begin with And lastly it’s speaking third hand, as in - from someone that is being spoken about - Salt saying it’s not possible, and one of the runners musingly just asking for some time Imagine incorrectly critiquing someone’s joke
Can you imagine 420 Blazit when he's 50 years old showing his grandkids this video.. Old man voice: yup that's me 420 blazit I used to kick ass and roll blunts back in my day we were changing the way people looked at video games
"By 2026, players had learned that subpixels were well too large a gap, and many had taken to direct manipulation of the electrons in the wire that connected the controller to the console to save two millionths of a second. This was it. Humans had reached the limit of how fast Super Mario Bros could be played according to Einstein's estimates of the limit of light speed." "...but then..."
Unsurprisingly, some players decided to play the game with chips made up of ybco superconductors, thereby manipulating the flux pinning of the magnetic field, so as to direct the electrons toward the right bus of the system through quantum tunnelling, causing a stream of parallel muons and anti muons perpendicular to the electron stream and thereby shifting mario by the order of some trillion plank lengths in only some billion plank-seconds, thus saving the right time to reach perfection
Over a year, thousands of hours, pain, triumph, happiness, depression. Months and months of work. All to get 3 seconds of screentime in a summoning salt video... my life is complete.
to be fair, 1 tenth of a second isnt only a lot in speed running. 1 tenth is 100m sprint is also a decent amount. not saying speed running isnt insane but its not the only thing that domination is measured in such small amounts.
when ever he starts to bring up someone who beat something and he is like "and that person was....." i always assume its matt turk no matter what game lol
For anyone late to this video like me, 8-4 was run perfectly by two runners over a year and a half ago. The wr as of 4 days ago was tied with the TAS up until 8-4. Humans are 22 frames away from Any% perfection.
It’s kinda insane to think a human could feasibly beat a game the fastest way possible. You always think to yourself, “i wonder when the world record will be beaten next”
Asking as someone who has zero prior knowledge of this subject, could you explain why you say 22 frames? At the end of this video, it is stated that the community is now only 2 frames away from perfection (that one fast acceleration in 8-4). Do the 22 frames refer to the best attempt at a full game speedrun, while the 2 frames refer to the best attempt at level 8-4 only?
@@lotuzz7409 yea I think when this video was made runners were 2 frames from perfection just on 8-4. It is 22 frames from a perfect full run of the game
And it gets me every time because it actually did happen instead of it being a fictional story these are real events that happened and that's what gets me.
Tbh, this game's perfect speedrun (as in, the TAS which aims to complete the game as fast as possible under any circumstance) is a pretty clean run, playing *almost* as intended by the developer. Some fast accel's and FPG's here and there, few incorrect warps - that's about it. This is nowhere close to speed runs that completely break the game and go out of bounds all the time such as Half-Life 2 or instances such as Oblivion / Morrowind / GTA San Andreas (skipping the entire god damn campaign!) SMB speedun still needs to play all the levels that a normal player would do to beat the game quickly. No glitchy skips there. Mario64 was much glitchier in that regard, as players gradually discovered ways to beat the game with less and less stars (out of 70 that is originally required). They brought this down to 30, then to 16, then to just 1 and finally to 0.
@@alewis514 I think he's more talking about the little things, like wall jumps from the single frame thinking mario is standing up, and similar stuff like that. there's many times where I never realized I programmed something weird like that and when shown was at a total loss because it never crossed my mind I was implementing. in this case it was used for hit detection and probably to stop a bug, so leaving it in just meant the game worked, not to mention the game is nearly 40 years old.
29:32 - For some reason, I find it hilarious how Niftski is rightfully celebrating while Mario is just standing there, forced to helplessly watch that Buzzy inexorably bearing down on him.
The line "After half a decade of this, the super mario bros community had made one thing very clear: Nothing was Impossible" feels both inspirational and somewhat wholesome.
@@honkhill1355 I doubt anyone expected it to be optimized to the point where every frame matters in one way or another Still, it's an incredible display of skill
@@unnoticed4571 You are right, though even if it wasn't this frame optimized it would still look insane being just a few second behind a TAS. People worked very hard to get here and the results are impressive.
Shigeru Miyamoto's on his death bed, "There's actually 6 more frames to save in 8-4", passes away. That would be the only way to make this more interesting. Well done and compelling content
And we have no way of knowing if he's legit or just trolling on his deathbed. Dude i wouldn't even be mad that would be like go out putting a smile on everyoen's face and make everyone lose their shit at the same time.
And now nifski has done almost all of this i a full run, only missing lightning 4-2 and a few frames here and there in 8-4. These guys are absolute legends
Competitive speedrunning really do be like that. Any minor optimization at the endgame, taken to its limit, leads to a borderline unbeatable gap of the tiniest of proportions.
Was watching it with the watch party on your twitch. An incredible video as always! Super Mario Bros. has been broken down so hard over the years, and it's just absolutely insane how close it is to being perfected. A monumental shoutouts to the entire Super Mario Bros. speedrunning community. Incredible work from everyone involved.
@Summoning Salt - I can't thank you enough. I was a runner in the Mega Man legends community but had fallen off of streaming for years. Your videos inspired me to continue speedrunning and today I set my first official World Record in the 100% category! I would not have done it without you! Thank you so much for your hard work and dedication!
I finally watched it! I love the approach you took on this one. The fact that the first 7 levels were all exactly 1 framerule off when SMB1 was stagnating is such a beautifully convenient coincidence that really helped elevate the video's narrative. Well done!
Update to this video: (Edited) 1. 8.4 had been fully completed down to the frame 2. Nobody has been able to put these all of the levels together for a perfect run 3. Niftski holds the current record with a time of 4.54.631 and he’s had that time for about 9 months. He’s held the record for over a year! 4. We are now 371 ms off of perfection 5. The community still continues to this day to get the time lower and lower
Nah man, this is going to be another binge night where I watch them all again. Every single new video, same ritual. Good thing I have 9.5 hours before work in the AM
I have so much respect for blazit managing to figure out how to deconstruct TAS to human possible inputs. It takes such a profound understanding of the sport, the game and the best techniques
I now understand why TAScorp is called like that in meta runner. Having a robot arm to help you speedrun faster definetely counts as a "tool assisted speedrun" lol.
Dude, these Mario speed running videos is like a series that you need to watch in order. Seeing people like 420blazeit or AndrewG come back is always hype
i love watching videos from salt and other creators and trying to predict who the record is going to be next, like whenever a new record gets mentioned trying to guess who is gonna be the person who had that record and the scary part is i've watched these so many times that im usually right
Oh there is a dompetetive streak a mile wide, but ultimately it's this 'hey i'm the first one to find this tool the community can use' or 'WOOO that guy made me push harder tha n ithought possible!' That level of competetivness is amazing. It's when it gets all or nothing winner is thonly one that matters when it gets super toxic.
I love finding music through documentaries, and I always try to remember the tracks as more than "that song from The Civil War." I can never manage it with Ashokan Farewell, and I can never manage it with We're Finally Landing. You have created something so profoundly inspiring with these docs, and I implore you to never forget it.
Just checking in to say niftski hit frame perfect 8-4 2 days in a row recently. And he’s already done up to 8-3 matching the TAS. 4.54.26 might happen in 2024
imagine using a keyboard, and keybinding a series of keys to an exact sequence of buttons, and then clicking them at *almost* the same time in such a way that they register in the game the way they need to. i figure that could get around the supposed impossibility of it, since that way a single finger wouldn't have to move at that speed, just the computers ability to register it. is that allowed?
there's a film music company called "two steps from hell" that released a lot of very famous epic orchestra pieces. "2 frames from perfection" would be the chiptune equivalent, right?
But using the same music over and over again isn’t kinda getting boring especially the one we’re finally home that one is used so much it irritating to here it
Still kind of hilarious that running this game is so optimized that being over "a tenth of a second ahead of anyone else on the leaderboard" is "pure domination"
Chaz Mcdickinson came here to post this, I was damned on expecting "The key was in a run from 1998 by a runner known as.... Matt Turk" or some such plot twist
To be fair if there's a way to ascend to godhood we just need to put the solution into some barrier skip in a platformer that saves like 0.3 seconds and people will figure it out.
Was never even into speed running until I watched you. Glad you make this type of content cause I bet you probably inspired so many new speed runners to pick up the controller
Speedrunners are a different breed. The commitment, patience, persistence, and team work is insane. I love how helpful the community is to each other. Def the most wholesome subset of gamers
Honestly he could've cut out the first half of the video, and it would've been just as good. The last 2 levels were overall the most interesting, and the first half felt a bit like filler by comparison. Just my opinion don't hurt me it's ok if you have a different opinion lmao
@@maskettaman1488 y'all Karl jobst fans can shut the hell up, I've lost all patience for this nonsense. If you've thought about something in smb1 speedrunning for maybe an hour, rest assured people who know more than you have devoted years of their time to confirming it. Do you think the smb1 mods are a bunch of idiots? Do you think the other speedruners who respect lekukie and use his setups are also idiots? Do you think the mod who approved of this exact record hasn't thought about the ways it could have been cheated and eliminated those possibilities? If the people that know more about this situation than you, some rando who watched a video by Big Man Speedrunner, are TELLING you that you are wrong, maybe try rubbing your remaining brain cells together and listening to them.
To see a speed running history video hit high on the trending page is so huge for what was at some point a very small niche community. Thank you salt for working so hard to give these games and player bases the spotlight and narrative they deserve
What made this one special for me was the underlying collaboration. Sure there's still the usual competition to save frames and lower times, and there's always people sharing findings, skips, and tech with any speedrun community. But this has all that with an extra spirit of "man vs machine" "we're in this together" "my success is everyone's success" about it.
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Check out the runners who helped make this video possible!
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Kosmic: www.twitch.tv/kosmic
Kriller: www.twitch.tv/kriller37
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Miniland: www.twitch.tv/miniland333
StuckInAPlate: www.twitch.tv/stuckinaplate
first reply
@@Joe_Morant12 ok
Amazing
Wow, not right after the video was released. Surprising.
no niftski here?
edit: miniland is here but i don’t remember seeing him once, SS probably just mixed them up
“Say the line, Salt”
“Imagine a bus”
**Applause**
You see, SummonimgSalt Videos are just like waiting at a bus stop, you wait until the "BusStop reference" bus comes to pick you up and moves you Into bliss
And it doesn't matter if you skip to 2 frames before the bus reference or 20 frames before, you'll both get the reference at the same time.
I've always wondered why they used a bus instead of a train. Trains operate on much stricter schedules than buses.
@@gemorris2000 don't give me hope.
Huh?
"He was more than a tenth of a second ahead of anybody else on the leaderboard, pure domination." Jesus Christ, we're in too deep
He could make paint drying entertaining. I was like sweating on the toilet watching this 😅 his voice is so relaxing and the videos are edited to perfection. Summoning salt speed runned into my heart.
A tenth of a second a lot of tkm when we're talking about frames here. It's hard to save a second on anything
I was about to post a similar comment but then I was this
Lol
A speedrun strat for an spongebob game is dirtying the disc.
I laughed a lot when he said “he actually had 1 frame of wiggle room” like woah mans could’ve took a vacation in that
Lol ikr
Those .02 seconds are real useful
also great word choise with "wiggle room" haha, wiggle means going back and forth, that's literally impossible to do in 1 frame LMAO
I mean, it is literally twice the amount of time.
@@hendy24 not true, you can wiggle several subpixels :)
I think my favorite progression in these stories is always the slow transition from “impossible for humans to achieve” to “regarded as impossible for humans” to “being attempted by top runners” to “it was finally achieved by”
Last step being "common/necessary in top runs"
@@Heydelios I've seen another step where it becomes the suboptimal strategy and is eventually replaced by another technique ranging from exactly 0 frames better to several hours off the record compared to previous methods' best times, depending on the game.
Speedrunners are determined. In a few more decades they'll be beating games before they're even ideas in the creator's mind.
"How is exactly 0 frames an improvement?" Because the other method requires less effort or training to learn/execute. Getting the same completion time for less button presses *IS* an improvement, even if it isn't applicable to the leaderboards.
@@techstuff9198No hate, love how you asked a question to yourself and answered
@@theblinkingbrownie4654 I was prepared with an answer to a question I predicted others would ask.
A simple and often forgotten technique.
@@techstuff9198so called "rhetorical question"
My favorite part about summoning salt is how he’ll be talking about how someone made an extremely important discovery and then their name is something like “420_blazit” or something.
"Then, out of nowhere, a new glitch was found by a small channel by the name of BigDickDuncan"
_Dr. PeePee_
@@thatoneguy9582 Dude I was gonna say that! The EmpLemon video
If I accomplish something, I want my name to be stupid.
More speedrunners / routers need to be like our hero, xx_420_blazit_xx
21:05 There will be consequences
oh no
I knew this would happen as soon as I saw that part of the video... This’ll be fun.
Hi bismuth
Wait I'm not there yet
Uh oh. lol Though I suspect that you were happy to be proven wrong. xD
"he was 10milliseconds faster than anyone else. Total domination"
Summoning Salt does videos about speed running, but the release time on his videos are the antithesis of speed
@@dahleno2014 If you're going to keep leaving hate comments, go do that somewhere else.
@@dahleno2014 bro ive looked everywhere, do you know where the person who asked is
@@dahleno2014
Considering the amount of time, research and effort required to make these videos, is that really so surprising?
... You do have enough brain power to consider that, right?
@@dahleno2014 Shows the effort, doesn't it? Truly, they are masterpieces.
Update: Lekukie and Niftski have achieved a frame-perfect 8-4, meaning that humans have finally reached perfection in Super Mario Bros.!
The only thing left, is a frame perfect speedrun of the game.
@@galfinsp7216 Yes
@@galfinsp7216 I don't see that happening though, but who knows.
@@mottdropsie give it a few more years trust me.
@@mottdropsie as “impossible” as it seems. It’s the only way from here to go.
Idk I'm still not convinced that 8-4 can be improved
Whats up checkmark
We just don't know. XD
@@gearfly hes one of the people in the video cmon man
Checkmark😳
I love your content and work man! Keep up the great content Kosmic!
We're at the point where speedrunners are gonna start playing during solar storms in hopes of having a beneficial bit flip.
Are you sure?
@@kylebeguhl8516 yes very
Some people are way too dedicated for their own good...
damn this one got me
I’m gonna get that tick tock clock up warp bounty any day now
Speedrunners on the other side of the galaxy: HOLY CRAP A .1 FRAME DIFFERENCE IM SO GOOD
Seriously though, they are way too serious and I love it XD
"He actually had a frame of wiggle room", now that's a ridiculous sentence.
it's literally impossible to wiggle within a single frame, so yeah
@@lydiasteinebendiksen4269 it is possible though, a minuscule 1 frame wiggle but a wiggle nonetheless. Would be impossible if it was a 0 frame wiggle.
"We have reached the human limit of the frame perfect wiggle" should be the next SS vid
@@lapidations aka subpixel wiggle room ez enough
It is. Like how causally he says you have 1 frame wiggle time is nuts.
When I hear "impossible" "too precise" or "too difficult for a human" in the speedrunning community I end up translating it to "give us a bit we'll figure it out"
In my mind “TAS-only” and “Too precise to do humanly” are both just “not feasible for a human being to preform”
ur not s speedrunner whyd u ssy "give us. but"
@@VccTn its just a quirk of english, i dont know the name of it, but when you use words like "we" or "us", it isnt clear if it includes the person being spoken to. (i.e "we just won the lottery", its unclear if the speaker is referring to themself and others or themself and you, the listener)
@@VccTnI don’t think you should be correcting people’s english out of all people
@@VccTnhow would you know they don’t run. Zero indication of that.
Also rich you’re correcting someone’s grammar when you can’t even type to begin with
And lastly it’s speaking third hand, as in - from someone that is being spoken about - Salt saying it’s not possible, and one of the runners musingly just asking for some time
Imagine incorrectly critiquing someone’s joke
"A frame of wiggle room" is the most Speedrunner-esque line I've ever heard.
How gracious of the game
Definitely, I like it lol
It comes to a point where you dont even think about it anymore lol. You're just like "oh I guess this is just free now"
Ayo, no more thumbs ups for this one. We've hit 420.
"He was a 10th of a second ahead of everyone else. Pure domination" low key lmao
This makes me lol when I think of ZFG on OoT he never stops playing OoT 100% he has it down pretty far considering how long the game is
Wow he said it right as I read this
"This... is 420 Blazit." The deadpan delivery of that line had me rolling a bit
The way he says gamer names like a documentery always cracks me up. Cant wait for "Then... xX_PussySlayer_Xx did it"
The magic of usernames and gamertags
Can you imagine 420 Blazit when he's 50 years old showing his grandkids this video..
Old man voice: yup that's me 420 blazit I used to kick ass and roll blunts back in my day we were changing the way people looked at video games
Still not as hilarious as Shivering Erotic King Banana from the Ninja Gaiden vid.
This is ....*puff* ....420 blaze it
Just imagine the pain Mario's balls go through with every flagpole glitch
lmfao
R/TIHI
My man have the balls of titanium if he is still alive
Mario: (after pulling off a flagpole glitch) "MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA..."
So that's why he's so quick off that pole
Summoning Salt: "...frame rule-"
Me: "IT'S LIKE A BUS"
Lmfao same 😅😂
Knew it was coming
SO LETS SAY THERES THIS BUS
BUS
For me, it's "theoretically perfect speedrun."
"There was now only one more framerule to be saved: 4-2"
Me when i see theres still half of the video remaining: oh boy
“Well... You might have heard of him...”
“Matt...TURK.”
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Matt Turk (the revenge)
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@@dont2604 okay I wont
True
I admire this man's ability to turn 2.75 seconds into the 45 minute long hero's journey that it is
and i enjoyed every second of the journey
I think he could talk about paint drying, and it'll still be more exciting than watching the world cup! :-)
"By 2026, players had learned that subpixels were well too large a gap, and many had taken to direct manipulation of the electrons in the wire that connected the controller to the console to save two millionths of a second. This was it. Humans had reached the limit of how fast Super Mario Bros could be played according to Einstein's estimates of the limit of light speed."
"...but then..."
Unsurprisingly, some players decided to play the game with chips made up of ybco superconductors, thereby manipulating the flux pinning of the magnetic field, so as to direct the electrons toward the right bus of the system through quantum tunnelling, causing a stream of parallel muons and anti muons perpendicular to the electron stream and thereby shifting mario by the order of some trillion plank lengths in only some billion plank-seconds, thus saving the right time to reach perfection
@Alastair Valyocsik in the year 20XX
Speedrunning the original Super Mario Bros leads to the invention of FTL? After seeing this video, I wouldn't be surprised at all!
I have a feeling this comment will age well ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@somenamelastnaammee52 But then...
He woke up from his dream and realized that the tas has already been tied.
Over a year, thousands of hours, pain, triumph, happiness, depression. Months and months of work. All to get 3 seconds of screentime in a summoning salt video... my life is complete.
Hey tree
yo man we know youre one of the only 4-2 frame rule champs - youre a legend bro
You are a king.
much praise!
I wrote a long long comment on my channel I upload stuff on with you in it.
You’re a madman tree, I hope you continue to play the game
"If it's not frame perfect, it's not an excuse."
Oh boy
Please do PS1 games. Branch out from Nintendo.
"if you didnt have a perfect time, you dont deserve to speak"
Is that a mew2king reference?
@@the0therethan nope
In the mushroom kingdom, "TAS only" is slang for "To-do list".
Which quickly becomes a synonym of "hold my beer".
EXACTLY
To accomplish someday
@@Zenheizer this is the best one
You can't press L+R at the same time, so TAS only is still valid.
Your dedication to covering these speedruns is inspirational. So glad a channel like this exists.
Present day
Present time
Check out Karl Jobst, also worth a watch.
Lauderdale is a cool last name
I wouldnt say inspirational lol
Sure thing Mr. Chargeman.
If there's no bus reference I'm going to be extremely disappointed....
*Update*
I was far from disappointed
Good day Mr. Verified person
Or just any vehicle in general
E
yo dbg watches summoning salt
There is at 3:31
Niftski has tied the Any% TAS into 8-4 in his WR today!
I saw that and decided to rewatch this haha
Same!
Absolute madness
Wild
"A tenth of a second faster than anyone else. Pure domination."
Speed running is insane
Lmao I love this so much
to be fair, 1 tenth of a second isnt only a lot in speed running. 1 tenth is 100m sprint is also a decent amount. not saying speed running isnt insane but its not the only thing that domination is measured in such small amounts.
@@Lvxurie did you just compare 1/10th of a second to 1/10th of a hundred meter dash
@@worsethanem3660 it was a typo. Should say "1 tenth in.."
@@Lvxurie then again, what is a 100m run if not quite literally a speed run?
when ever he starts to bring up someone who beat something and he is like "and that person was....." i always assume its matt turk no matter what game lol
Safe bet. Ever wonder if Turk has come across people who only know him from Summoning Salt's videos? Dude is a transcendent being in my cannon
I actually always think of Scott Kesler
Don't worry. The matt turk arc is the best arc. When he decides to take every record back after letting the community make progress
Andrewg is up there too
matt turk is synonymous with NES speed running so i don’t blame you
"he was over a tenth of a second ahead of anyone else. pure domination"
A 10th of a second in 8-4il is an incomprehensibly big lead
Like drag racing
@@Exponaut_R-01 And like the Formula one top ten
Pffffft I wish it were that close
Cool pfp
Update for all wondering: the perfect run for the last level has been achieved
How do I find it
@@zolticsapphire7481 ua-cam.com/video/6iz9bB0wIYQ/v-deo.html
I niftnistki yt channel
YEEEEEESSSSS WHERE WHERE
This is awesome. It shows a frame perfect full speedrun is possible
Summoning Salt: *Tries to find alternatives to the bus analogy.*
Bus analogy: And where did that bring you? Back to me.
Right on schedule.
@@Real_Artician bus stop is that way
Bus analogy: I am inevitable
Still like four wheeled vehicle 👍
Bus schedule: time for ur an analogy
Salt: yes dear
I'm sure hundreds of us reach a certain level of Zen every time "Home" comes on in a Summoning Salt video lol
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@@VipCell_Tv BRO THIS MAN REALLY PROMOTING HIS VIDEOS IN THE REPLY SECTION OF A COMMENT 😂😂
@@dont2604 shut up
@@randominternettoaster7859 I agree.
@@dont2604 No one cares about what a bots profile picture is.
"A tenth of a second."
"Pure domination."
Ah yes, Speedrunners.
I swear speed runners are a different species.
@@TheBluePhoenix008 There's no other good explanation.
@@morthostalisint1720 as an amateur Mike Tyson’s Punch-out runner, I do think there’s something wrong with me sometimes.
They're simply built different
For anyone late to this video like me, 8-4 was run perfectly by two runners over a year and a half ago. The wr as of 4 days ago was tied with the TAS up until 8-4. Humans are 22 frames away from Any% perfection.
It’s kinda insane to think a human could feasibly beat a game the fastest way possible. You always think to yourself, “i wonder when the world record will be beaten next”
@@KraZTheKidwhen the goat nifstky coms back to the categorie
Asking as someone who has zero prior knowledge of this subject, could you explain why you say 22 frames? At the end of this video, it is stated that the community is now only 2 frames away from perfection (that one fast acceleration in 8-4). Do the 22 frames refer to the best attempt at a full game speedrun, while the 2 frames refer to the best attempt at level 8-4 only?
@@lotuzz7409 yea I think when this video was made runners were 2 frames from perfection just on 8-4. It is 22 frames from a perfect full run of the game
@@aidanf1404do you know where the 22 frames are missed? are they from a different level? or 8-4?
Every Summoning Salt video
“They said it was impossible...”
“But then...
It happened.”
*inspirational music*
And it gets me every time because it actually did happen instead of it being a fictional story these are real events that happened and that's what gets me.
*xx_420_blazit_xx comes back*
You love to see it.
Then Matt Turk appears somehow
I find it so cringey
Shigeru Miyamoto watching people utterly break his game: "I don't remember programing that..."
Tbh, this game's perfect speedrun (as in, the TAS which aims to complete the game as fast as possible under any circumstance) is a pretty clean run, playing *almost* as intended by the developer. Some fast accel's and FPG's here and there, few incorrect warps - that's about it. This is nowhere close to speed runs that completely break the game and go out of bounds all the time such as Half-Life 2 or instances such as Oblivion / Morrowind / GTA San Andreas (skipping the entire god damn campaign!)
SMB speedun still needs to play all the levels that a normal player would do to beat the game quickly. No glitchy skips there. Mario64 was much glitchier in that regard, as players gradually discovered ways to beat the game with less and less stars (out of 70 that is originally required). They brought this down to 30, then to 16, then to just 1 and finally to 0.
@@alewis514 I think he's more talking about the little things, like wall jumps from the single frame thinking mario is standing up, and similar stuff like that. there's many times where I never realized I programmed something weird like that and when shown was at a total loss because it never crossed my mind I was implementing. in this case it was used for hit detection and probably to stop a bug, so leaving it in just meant the game worked, not to mention the game is nearly 40 years old.
Shigeru is a game designer, not a programmer. He doesn't program any of his games.
@Alan Fitzgerald No that's not how programming works. Oh I misunderstood what you meant.
@@alewis514 you can do it with zero stars now!?
29:32 - For some reason, I find it hilarious how Niftski is rightfully celebrating while Mario is just standing there, forced to helplessly watch that Buzzy inexorably bearing down on him.
"Hey uh, Niftski, I know you're celebrating and all but I'm about to die. Niftski? Niftski? NIFTSKI I'M GONNA DIE H-"
felt this
@@pyro111100 H
@@AndyHappyGuy -
He should have used a controller. Then I'd be impressed
The line "After half a decade of this, the super mario bros community had made one thing very clear: Nothing was Impossible" feels both inspirational and somewhat wholesome.
when summoning salt said "you might know who he is..." about andrew g i really thought matt turk was about to appear out of fucking nowhere
The Return of the King
He streamed the video and actually made a Matt Turk joke at that exact point
"Kept you waiting, huh?"
SAME
"Showtime."
SS: "I'm gonna let Darbian explain."
Me: NO NO DAD NOT THE BUS AGAIN
YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT THE BUS AND YOU WILL LIKE IT
Every Summoning Salt video is someones first.
“He was more than a tenth of a second ahead of anyone else on the leaderboard. Pure domination” is such a testament to how optimised this speedrun is.
Fr
Ikr
After 36 years it was bound to be optimized.
@@honkhill1355
I doubt anyone expected it to be optimized to the point where every frame matters in one way or another
Still, it's an incredible display of skill
@@unnoticed4571 You are right, though even if it wasn't this frame optimized it would still look insane being just a few second behind a TAS. People worked very hard to get here and the results are impressive.
"This time would undeniably remain out of reach forever. That is, until - one day - it wasn't anymore."
Gives me chills every time.
And it's always some guy named "CockSucker420AsshairWeed9/11"
cringe
nah@@VccTn
nah @@alexm3865
SummoningSalt: starts talking about framerules
My mind: IT'S BUS TIMEEE
Me: “Do the roar!”
Salt: BUS!!!!!!!!
Shigeru Miyamoto's on his death bed, "There's actually 6 more frames to save in 8-4", passes away. That would be the only way to make this more interesting. Well done and compelling content
And we have no way of knowing if he's legit or just trolling on his deathbed.
Dude i wouldn't even be mad that would be like go out putting a smile on everyoen's face and make everyone lose their shit at the same time.
-Fermat's- Miyamoto's Last Theorem
300th like
*one piece opening plays*
@@singletona082 It'd be like a video game version of "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World". The hunt for "The Big W".
Imagine holding an any% world record for years and getting beaten by some guy by 1 frame
probably happens a lot in highly optimised games.
Welcome to trackmania
Then you have to beat them by 2 frames to assert dominance
@@evox6878 FRFR
Thats how people were able to beat Matt turk's records🤷♀️
And now nifski has done almost all of this i a full run, only missing lightning 4-2 and a few frames here and there in 8-4. These guys are absolute legends
I guess we might end up with another video!
Just give him some time. It will be done.
“Doctor he’s running low on Serotonin! What do we do?”
“We only have one option left... play the song.”
“Yes doctor...”
*summoning salt video starts*
Side note: I’m the patient.
My serotonin has been restored
Humanity restored
Home's music really is something else. I wish I knew where he finds these songs and artists.
@@steptuumba6279 i found it in the description.
(0:00) HOME - We’re Finally Landing
(1:29) Prism Age - Plural
(3:03) Prism Age - Ivresse
(5:10) Stevia Sphere - Misplaced My Keys
(6:17) Henrik Jonsson - As Darkness Falls
(8:03) C418 - Beton
(10:26) Patricia Taxxon - Retrograde
(16:03) HOME - Hurricane Season Intro
(17:42) Chris Doerksen - First Light
(19:26) Color Index - Intervals
(20:20) HOME - Still Life
(21:52) Patricia Taxxon - Rave
(23:07) HOME - Abandon Planet
(23:58) HOME - Byzantium
(25:54) Patricia Taxxon - Cicada 2
(26:57) Stevia Sphere - Misplaced My Keys
(29:06) HOME - 4
(30:06) TheOfficialLobst - Cosmos
(32:32) Chris Doerksen - Night Running
(34:05) TheOfficialLobst - Andromeda
(35:44) Patricia Taxxon - Wavetable
(37:41) Henrik Jonsson - As Darkness Falls
(38:46) TheOfficialLobst - Interdimensional
(40:18) Patricia Taxxon - Liftoff
(42:44) TheOfficialLobst - Cosmos
(43:54) HOME - We’re Finally Landing
Thanks, I was looking for this!
Thanks a lot !!
Thank you, kind stranger
Soundtrack was specially good this time, it really makes watching Summoning Salt a unique experience
thx
"he was a tenth of a second ahead of anyone else. complete domination"
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Competitive speedrunning in a nutshell:
Competitive speedrunning really do be like that. Any minor optimization at the endgame, taken to its limit, leads to a borderline unbeatable gap of the tiniest of proportions.
This music and introduction to every one of these videos makes these achievments seem so monumental and groundbreaking - Amazing
Was watching it with the watch party on your twitch. An incredible video as always! Super Mario Bros. has been broken down so hard over the years, and it's just absolutely insane how close it is to being perfected. A monumental shoutouts to the entire Super Mario Bros. speedrunning community. Incredible work from everyone involved.
Hey, you're the guy who posted the extended Undertale OST!
One great UA-camr commenting on another great youtubers video.
If there is a god then he must be a merciful one
I keep seeing you in comments sections lol
I see you everywhere
"hey its the undertale ost guy"
“That would leave just one stage left”
*looks at the run time*
“Holy shit I get 20 more minutes yes please.”
Just did that lmao
YESSSSS
All I gotta say is Peach better be grateful when she sees how much my man hustled to save her.
He gets all the cake after the speedrunners finish. On the table and in bed.
She was stuck for like 5 minutes to be fair
Bro at this rate, Bowser like just walks in the door. Mans doesn't even have time to take his shoes off before Mario is kicking the door down
@@anidiot4992 stop
@@marshmellowguy586 no
I don't know why, but Niftski's reaction to getting the 4-2 framerule save at 29:28 makes me tear up a bit
I beat this game in 4:53.98 last week
Did someone know the song that is in that minute?
Home - 4 is the song
No it doesn't......
@@MineralGPKmake a vid of it fat lyer
"imagine that this little castle that mario walks into, is not a castle but a bus stop."
Ah shit, here we go again
@Summoning Salt - I can't thank you enough. I was a runner in the Mega Man legends community but had fallen off of streaming for years. Your videos inspired me to continue speedrunning and today I set my first official World Record in the 100% category! I would not have done it without you! Thank you so much for your hard work and dedication!
Oh my gosh congrats!!!
Rock on dude, that's tite
Yoooooo that’s epic congrats!!
Noice beyond words, keep running man
Congratulations dude! :D that's seriously an awesome story
I finally watched it! I love the approach you took on this one. The fact that the first 7 levels were all exactly 1 framerule off when SMB1 was stagnating is such a beautifully convenient coincidence that really helped elevate the video's narrative. Well done!
How come this comment has only one like?
I’ll be back next week to see how many likes this comment gets.
Ayyy the fellow legend themselves
A little disappointed that this wasn't a sarcastic quip about how much better yours was lmao
I understood like 4 words he said
Update to this video: (Edited)
1. 8.4 had been fully completed down to the frame
2. Nobody has been able to put these all of the levels together for a perfect run
3. Niftski holds the current record with a time of 4.54.631 and he’s had that time for about 9 months. He’s held the record for over a year!
4. We are now 371 ms off of perfection
5. The community still continues to this day to get the time lower and lower
Sub 4:55 is crazy. Was he the first?
Where can I keep up with this?
Niftski just lowered the record again!!!
@@welovefootball3388 That’s wild!
Update !!!!
When you hear the Summoning Salt music you know what you are going to be doing for the next hour.
Half hour, if you watch at 2x speed like me.
Uh hour? Listening for 2 sleeping for the rest cuz god summoning salt documentaries are SOOTHING!
Nah man, this is going to be another binge night where I watch them all again. Every single new video, same ritual. Good thing I have 9.5 hours before work in the AM
Getting popcorn and soda, even though it gives me acid at this time of night?
I have so much respect for blazit managing to figure out how to deconstruct TAS to human possible inputs. It takes such a profound understanding of the sport, the game and the best techniques
lol 'sport'
@@jakecooper5855 well what would YOU call a challenge of physical abilities done to specific rules that can be for pleasure or competition?
@@thelordjesus1136 no one will magically be converted to Christianity through a youtube comment dude christianity isnt some underground shit
LOL ‘sport’
@@turdferguson2 "uhm, ackchually, a sport has to involve running and shooting ball into thing"
Me in 2012: Speed-running is silly.
Me in 2021: Speed-running pushes the bounds of what is humanly possible.
Respect.
I now understand why TAScorp is called like that in meta runner. Having a robot arm to help you speedrun faster definetely counts as a "tool assisted speedrun" lol.
@@qwertydavid8070 man who forgot to tell me about the robot arms? I've just been using like... frame advance and input files to make my tases.
@@qwertydavid8070 saying robot arm made me thing of someone speedrunning a game with the power glove
Yo holy shit I really have been watching gdq for 8 years now
Me in 2021: speedrunning is silly and also the most incredible thing ever
Doesn't matter if you're interested in speed running from before, these videos are so well put together they're a must watch
The community: That's completely impossible.
The community: Fine, I'll do it myself!
Real 😳 😳 😳 😳 😳
Community : We are streets ahead
Dude, these Mario speed running videos is like a series that you need to watch in order. Seeing people like 420blazeit or AndrewG come back is always hype
Forreal bro, they're basically the superstars in this community it's so awesome when they pop up
I need a playlist of those videos
Or if someone big from one game makes a surprise appearance in another, like with Matt Turk holding a contra record
Im still waiting for the return of shivering erotic king banana
i love watching videos from salt and other creators and trying to predict who the record is going to be next, like whenever a new record gets mentioned trying to guess who is gonna be the person who had that record and the scary part is i've watched these so many times that im usually right
I like the videos when the community is working toward a goal. No Heroes, no villains. Just people setting out to make the impossible possible.
I didn't realize it until you said it but yes, that's why I loved this video
True
All heroes
@@kettlefleet829 but if everyone's super, then no one is
Oh there is a dompetetive streak a mile wide, but ultimately it's this 'hey i'm the first one to find this tool the community can use' or 'WOOO that guy made me push harder tha n ithought possible!'
That level of competetivness is amazing. It's when it gets all or nothing winner is thonly one that matters when it gets super toxic.
I love finding music through documentaries, and I always try to remember the tracks as more than "that song from The Civil War."
I can never manage it with Ashokan Farewell, and I can never manage it with We're Finally Landing.
You have created something so profoundly inspiring with these docs, and I implore you to never forget it.
another exceptional 45 minutes spent, i LOVE these thank you salt
Pulse fire? A man of culture I see.
My cut is insane, shout out to my barber dawg
Unexpected seeing you here, I was just thinking I wanted to see some of your epic content. Please upload for me 👉👈
I would say its exceptional 44 minutes and 59 seconds spent, because in speed run, every Second counts 😌
45 minutes? It only took me 22:30!
"He was more than a tenth of a second ahead ... pure domination"
the most speedrunner sentence ive ever heard
Me, a Summoning Salt scholar during a dramatic pause: 'It's either Matt Turk or AndrewG'.
His dramatic pause for "420 Blazit" was incredible.
I am surprised it isn't SSSniperwolf at this rate...
@@penfold-55 ?
I was thinking Darbian!
Just checking in to say niftski hit frame perfect 8-4 2 days in a row recently. And he’s already done up to 8-3 matching the TAS. 4.54.26 might happen in 2024
Up to 8-4 tying the tas*
"It's physically impossible to go faster than this"
We've heard that one before.
AYO WHATS GOOD
imagine using a keyboard, and keybinding a series of keys to an exact sequence of buttons, and then clicking them at *almost* the same time in such a way that they register in the game the way they need to. i figure that could get around the supposed impossibility of it, since that way a single finger wouldn't have to move at that speed, just the computers ability to register it. is that allowed?
@@davidlewis6728 no. It is not
@@davidlewis6728 as far as I remember, no. They have to use an unmodified nes controller
@@davidlewis6728
No speed run allows macros iirc
"2 frames from perfection" sounds like a great band name.
there's a film music company called "two steps from hell" that released a lot of very famous epic orchestra pieces.
"2 frames from perfection" would be the chiptune equivalent, right?
@@HolyShinta Or the animation equivalent.
1 frame from perfection now*
@@GumSkyloard That'd be the company that makes music videos from the films
Watching any of these videos with some nice snacks, something to drink and just laying down is on my top favorite things to do.
Same I love this channel!
woah its the glitchtale person
@@jsaucemapping7107 The glitchtale person
Damn
Good to see you again.
But using the same music over and over again isn’t kinda getting boring especially the one we’re finally home that one is used so much it irritating to here it
Still kind of hilarious that running this game is so optimized that being over "a tenth of a second ahead of anyone else on the leaderboard" is "pure domination"
"You might have heard of this runner"
It's andrewG isn't it
"AndrewG"
Woooooooooooo
Genuinely thought it was about to be that damned Matt Turk
Chaz Mcdickinson came here to post this, I was damned on expecting "The key was in a run from 1998 by a runner known as.... Matt Turk" or some such plot twist
Anon Emoose “As runners pushed for 4:53, a mysterious tape emerged from 1997. The runner, was Matt Turk, and the time, a 4:52.98”
It was either gonna be him, or Matt Turk 🤷♂️😂
With Windows XP!
There's so much that goes into speedrunning this game, that I have nothing but respect to the people who keep trying to break past the human limits
Here before your clones I see.
Yo!
In speed runs like these every last second matters.
I haven’t seen you in so long
Why do I see you everywhere
"The Human Limit" This is it, the video about ascending humanity and becoming a God all for the sake of getting a second less on the record.
It's not a second. It's 1/30 of a second. Humans are the best kind of insane.
To reach immortalality for all ages
I REJECT MY HUMANITY, JOJO!!!!
To be fair if there's a way to ascend to godhood we just need to put the solution into some barrier skip in a platformer that saves like 0.3 seconds and people will figure it out.
Was never even into speed running until I watched you. Glad you make this type of content cause I bet you probably inspired so many new speed runners to pick up the controller
I'm not good enough to Speedrun anything, but I'm fascinated with the tricks people come up with.
I love how andrewg gets a dramatic intro every time hes introduced in summoningsalts vids
With surprise recurring character, Sockfolder "I did Cannonless" the Speedrunning Wizard
And he used Windows XP!
Speedrunners are a different breed. The commitment, patience, persistence, and team work is insane. I love how helpful the community is to each other. Def the most wholesome subset of gamers
@@samuelbonaya28 no
@@kimchilord881 Probably spam
@@kimchilord881 just like deathzonekiller said. Don't know what it is but i've seen it on multiple comments
League legends has the most wholesome community 😌
@@DaTLMusic LMAOOO 🧢
The hero we don't deserve!
I have no idea what’s going on, and my chicken nuggets fell on the floor
E
@@The_Soldier-of_Godrick E
@@devourerofbigmacs7858 e
Maybe he should run for Pres. In the U.S.
The frame rule existing is one of the best things in this speed run, making "perfection" seem attainable
An exceptional 45 minutes
But did you save any frames?
that's 10 perfect runs
44:59 not 45
Hehe
@Accura just report it as commercial/spam
Honestly he could've cut out the first half of the video, and it would've been just as good. The last 2 levels were overall the most interesting, and the first half felt a bit like filler by comparison. Just my opinion don't hurt me it's ok if you have a different opinion lmao
Me finally going outside after covid: So imagine each bus is like a framerule
you made my say sir
My morning commute has traffic lights and time clock minutes as frame rules
ƊÕÑT ŘĒÄĎ ḾÝ ҎŘÕḞÎĹÉ ҎÎḈ₸ŬRĚ
@@dont2604 go away
Well done... 🤣🤣🤣
Teachers: "No one's forcing you to be perfect."
Speedrunners: "Fine, I'll do it myself."
Lekukie, SMB1 speedrunner at large, just tied the TAS in 8-4! The human SOB is now tied with the TAS!
The chad LeKukie
Alpha male behavior
Oh lekuki was first I thought it was niftsiski
Wouldn't count it since in all likelihood he cheated it
@@maskettaman1488 y'all Karl jobst fans can shut the hell up, I've lost all patience for this nonsense. If you've thought about something in smb1 speedrunning for maybe an hour, rest assured people who know more than you have devoted years of their time to confirming it. Do you think the smb1 mods are a bunch of idiots? Do you think the other speedruners who respect lekukie and use his setups are also idiots? Do you think the mod who approved of this exact record hasn't thought about the ways it could have been cheated and eliminated those possibilities? If the people that know more about this situation than you, some rando who watched a video by Big Man Speedrunner, are TELLING you that you are wrong, maybe try rubbing your remaining brain cells together and listening to them.
To see a speed running history video hit high on the trending page is so huge for what was at some point a very small niche community. Thank you salt for working so hard to give these games and player bases the spotlight and narrative they deserve
ua-cam.com/video/-RAglyw6ySk/v-deo.html
"Was it impossible???"
"Sadly yes, BUT IT HAPPENED!"
~ Every Summoning Salt video
Every time Salt says something seemed impossible I'm just waiting to see how long till someone does it.
What made this one special for me was the underlying collaboration. Sure there's still the usual competition to save frames and lower times, and there's always people sharing findings, skips, and tech with any speedrun community. But this has all that with an extra spirit of "man vs machine" "we're in this together" "my success is everyone's success" about it.
Kinda like the A1A now that I think about it lol
That collaboration is present in just about every speedrunning community, it's a really cool form of competition
Yea. They all wanted to be the one to due it yea, but they'd rather someone else do it then it not happen at all.
LEKUKIE HAS TIED THE TAS. WE ARE NOW 0 FRAMES FROM PERFECTION
-1 frames from perfection next
@@matheuscabral9618 we’re reaching speed running levels that shouldn’t be possible!
Now lets see someone do it without cheating
AndrewG is the protagonist and we are all side characters in his story.
I lost my MIND when he showed up and flexed on 4-2
Thank u danny devito
AndrewG is secretly the descendent of Matt Turk.
I joyfully gasped when he was mentioned lol
Safe to assume every speedrunner came from a single ancestor lmao
It's like the Belmonts all over again.
“The human limit” something about the title gives chills down my spine.
ƊÕÑT ŘĒÄĎ ḾÝ ҎŘÕḞÎĹÉ ҎÎḈ₸ŬRĚ
Because as you can see, humans don't have any limitations, except for the physical ones :D
@@dont2604 ok
what if aliens came to earth and saw the super mario bros speedrun
Why
this channel is legitimately amazing, glad to have watched for over 4 years now :)
yeah his videos are well thought out and entertaining.
He also clearly puts a LOT of work into them.
Yeah his channels are amazing
I watch you 😁
that's an insane thought-- I can't believe it's been that long
Im honest, this is probably my favorite video on UA-cam. Not just video essay. Favorite in general. I find myself coming back to it once a month or so
Episode 36: Super Mario Bros: The Human Limit
(0:00) HOME - We’re Finally Landing
(1:29) Prism Age - Plural
(3:03) Prism Age - Ivresse
(5:10) Stevia Sphere - Misplaced My Keys
(6:17) Henrik Jonsson - As Darkness Falls
(8:03) C418 - Beton
(10:26) Patricia Taxxon - Retrograde
(16:03) HOME - Hurricane Season Intro
(17:42) Chris Doerksen - First Light
(19:26) Color Index - Intervals
(20:20) HOME - Still Life
(21:52) Patricia Taxxon - Rave
(23:07) HOME - Abandon Planet
(23:58) HOME - Byzantium
(25:54) Patricia Taxxon - Cicada 2
(26:57) Stevia Sphere - Misplaced My Keys
(29:06) HOME - 4
(30:06) TheOfficialLobst - Cosmos
(32:32) Chris Doerksen - Night Running
(34:05) TheOfficialLobst - Andromeda
(35:44) Patricia Taxxon - Wavetable
(37:41) Henrik Jonsson - As Darkness Falls
(38:46) TheOfficialLobst - Interdimensional
(40:18) Patricia Taxxon - Liftoff
(42:44) TheOfficialLobst - Cosmos
(43:54) HOME - We’re Finally Landing
CENTILLION THANKS
What a bro
why did you copy paste the list that SS already posted for likes
King shit 👑
@@Pocket_Jake lol I did it for myself because I wanted to have the timestamps, and I didn’t see it in the comment section
Salt: Framer-
Everyone: IMAGINE A BUS
Ah yes
Framer
Didn't think I'd find my favorite mkwii TASer here.
“Only one framerule needed to be saved"
*checks timestamp*
*1/3 of video remains*
*ofcourse.jpeg*
Lol, I watched all 44:59 mins of this not realizing I already watched it 3 yrs ago, that’s how good this channel is, I was just as mesmerized.