Spikeweed is REALLY cool: here's why

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  • @chrisa.2323
    @chrisa.2323 2 роки тому +2414

    In my primal brain, I love how nice it feels to put a plant all the way where the enemy spawns, and know it'll do good work.

    • @elvenatheart982
      @elvenatheart982 2 роки тому +79

      Ha, nice choice of words

    • @raydevente1122
      @raydevente1122 2 роки тому +100

      Primal Brain is my favorite plant from Jurassic Marsh. Much more useful than Normal Brain.

    • @WOKEchair
      @WOKEchair Рік тому +2

      Yes

    • @WOKEchair
      @WOKEchair Рік тому +1

      @@raydevente1122 very

    • @A.Singularity
      @A.Singularity Рік тому +11

      ​@@raydevente1122 personally I like using Null brain more, but hey, everybody has their favourites

  • @battensag7168
    @battensag7168 2 роки тому +594

    Iceweed, surprisingly enough, synergizes really well with fire plants, as his fire rate means that the second a fire plant thaws a zombie, it gets chilled again. It works especially well with inferno, as he pushes zombies back onto the iceweeds once they've walked off them. Loud plants stick together.

    • @kooolainebulger8117
      @kooolainebulger8117 7 місяців тому +1

      waht

    • @yinghannong
      @yinghannong 4 місяці тому

      ​@@kooolainebulger8117 It's a joke

    • @foxxowoxxowillow7855
      @foxxowoxxowillow7855 4 місяці тому +22

      @@yinghannong Not really. They just mean that its anti-synergy with fire plants is pretty inconsequential. Since they'll just immediately get frozen again anyway, so it doesn't really matter that they get unfrozen for a fraction of a second by fire plants in most cases.

    • @Bruh_idk69lul
      @Bruh_idk69lul Місяць тому +1

      ​@@foxxowoxxowillow7855i was actually thinking about how the lack of consequence could prove for an interesting direction for modders. Could perhaps do double dmg to zombies when chilling them, like spikerock, and then regular spikeweed damage when they are already chilled. Turns the anti-synergy into a synergy

    • @monhi64
      @monhi64 Місяць тому

      I’ve def noticed that ice/fire synergy happening in a bunch of games. Especially when the fire thaws something allowing the frost to reapply quicker.

  • @joe8565
    @joe8565 Рік тому +622

    I’m surprised this wasn’t mentioned:
    You can plant spikeweed (and it’s variants) on flowers in “don’t trample the flowers” levels so that a zombie that walks over them won’t count as trampling the flowers

    • @Robin_hsr12
      @Robin_hsr12 Рік тому +21

      I'm pretty sure infinut also does it

    • @justaponyyy
      @justaponyyy Рік тому +46

      waiiit really? that's life changing

    • @flameofthephoenix8395
      @flameofthephoenix8395 Рік тому +122

      So, in other words, the zombies can't trample your flowers if you do it first!

    • @Reddols
      @Reddols Рік тому +31

      @@flameofthephoenix8395 Correct!

    • @Knightpiecerules
      @Knightpiecerules 10 місяців тому +4

      aint no way does that actually work?

  • @angry-plant
    @angry-plant 2 роки тому +1997

    I've always thought Spikeweed was extremely underrated I've seen some people even say it is one of the worst plants in pvz. But I think people who say it's bad or even it's alright have not gave it a good enough shot.

    • @kepler4192
      @kepler4192 2 роки тому +79

      Or they think pvz2 spikeweed is the same as pvz1 spikeweed

    • @pablogomesoliveira2677
      @pablogomesoliveira2677 2 роки тому +12

      Ballon zombie : what’s a spike weed ?

    • @hy7864
      @hy7864 2 роки тому +48

      @@pablogomesoliveira2677 *ballon pops
      Ballon Zombie: Oh

    • @ЕрікПокідько
      @ЕрікПокідько 2 роки тому +46

      Well spike weed is not bad
      It's just overshadowed by some other op plants
      (Insert spike mint)

    • @fridge_dust
      @fridge_dust 2 роки тому +13

      Spikerock in question:

  • @xX-PkFreeze-Xx
    @xX-PkFreeze-Xx 2 роки тому +3759

    Definitely an interesting take on dickweed. I always felt like he was quite the odd plant out when compared to the rest of the plants

  • @shmegalodonschmuckington786
    @shmegalodonschmuckington786 2 роки тому +833

    For favourite plants in the franchise as a whole I'd go with:
    Coconut Cannon- Very simple to use manual plant that has a very large impact in the field due to his pretty fast recharge, reasonable cost and really good base damage that can weaken any tough zombie enemy into something much more manageable as well as wiping dense zombie hordes pretty easily with the splash damage. He's also very fun to use in general. Would def use this as a gold standard for manual plants as well as heavy plants in general.
    Lava Guava-Very potent insta that is pretty much a godsend on any level with freeze gimmicks. The lava pool it leaves can thin out very dense clusters easily as well as severely weakening tougher zombies, while also being pretty good at stalling Gargantuars if you immediately place Lava Guava in front of them. It also doesn't interfere with plants that inflict chill or freeze much like Snow Pea or Winter Melon like most fire plants, so that's a huge plus in my book. Very good insta overall that I'm surprised hasn't gotten much more traction before.
    Hypno Shroom- This guy has way more potential than what most people think. Very useful early grave removal for levels that love spamming graves alot throughout the lawn as well as turning tanky zombies like Brickheads or Cone Mechs into very durable walls to protect your plants with while also pushing through weaker zombies without much trouble. Plus the plant food is just really funny

    • @SheLikesLoons
      @SheLikesLoons 2 роки тому +49

      Coconut gun fires in spurts

    • @luckyshinegaming8902
      @luckyshinegaming8902 2 роки тому +17

      I agree on Hypno

    • @minhducnguyen9276
      @minhducnguyen9276 2 роки тому +11

      I agree on Lava Guava. It has moderately high burst damage to be used on mid lavel tanks and just enough overtime damage to temporarily deny an area. Very useful and versatile low cost option.

    • @jpupper428
      @jpupper428 2 роки тому +9

      Coconut cannon makes everything feel like a minigame. An explosive one.

    • @shmegalodonschmuckington786
      @shmegalodonschmuckington786 2 роки тому +8

      @A Memefied Pro E Gamer please actually read my paragraph on why I think hypno shroom is good

  • @allah_before_everything
    @allah_before_everything 2 роки тому +445

    18:05 sweet potato(mainly bc of the design), ghost pepper(a really cool plant to use while not being extremely busted and not having some really stupid weaknesses), snow pea(THE definition of balanced.)

    • @Creeps20
      @Creeps20  2 роки тому +103

      Interesting list.

    • @lebollsong
      @lebollsong 2 роки тому +49

      Ghost pepper is kind of like a mix between cherry bomb and jalapeno and weaker versions of them. I do still like ghost

    • @lebollsong
      @lebollsong 2 роки тому +17

      Along with ghost I also like rotobaga mainly because of design (I like the propeller idk why)

    • @pach-nii3627
      @pach-nii3627 2 роки тому +7

      I think they are refering to snow pea from the PvZ2 mods. It gets better stats on vanilla PvZ2 but the seed packet system is kinda dogshit and the fact that it is a paid plant just adds fuel to the fire

    • @Purrfect_Werecat
      @Purrfect_Werecat 2 роки тому +1

      I always liked ghost pepper since it couldn't be targeted

  • @dapperpotatoes8473
    @dapperpotatoes8473 2 роки тому +406

    My favourite has always been puff shroom ever since I saw it in the first game. And I really liked the reworked mechanics of the second game. There’s not particularly any synergy, it’s just a really good and reliable plant for early game and you can just plant it for the entire game if you want since it really has no downsides (unless there’s a jester).
    Scaredy-shroom is a close second though, it had really fun risk-reward mechanics, RIP.

    • @RetardMcGee2002
      @RetardMcGee2002 2 роки тому +30

      Still hoping they add back scaredy shroom, although I'm practically lying to myself.

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname 2 роки тому +36

      Puff shrooms are kinda busted in the first game,
      Because of the low cool down time
      And how early on you get it.
      (It and Scaredy Shroom should've probably been switched)

    • @Burger19985
      @Burger19985 2 роки тому +4

      @@BramLastname really good because 1 puff can kill a basic on its own for free giving you all of early game to yourself

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname 2 роки тому +10

      @@Burger19985 yeah, they trivialize the early night levels,
      However later on, it'd be a lit less broken because its recharge time can't keep up with the stronger zombies.

    • @voltscreamratty
      @voltscreamratty 2 роки тому +4

      @@BramLastname Not really? You can beat every night level in pvz1 with nothing but puffshroom spam

  • @Knightgaming396
    @Knightgaming396 2 роки тому +251

    Ice weed seems to synergize more with fire plants. With it just basically freezing the zombie as it gets un frozen. It seems to be less spike weedy and more stalling.

  • @LandofHeros2234
    @LandofHeros2234 2 роки тому +116

    In original PvZ spikeweeds also pop the tires of the catapults. This only happens in last stand endless because that is the only place catapults and spikeweeds can exist on the field at the same time

  • @notificationleech5811
    @notificationleech5811 2 роки тому +145

    iceweed could be combined with fire pea shooter or wasabi whip because you can keep huge damage without losing your freeze slow most of the time.

    • @tam_69420
      @tam_69420 2 роки тому +2

      wow thanks for your wisdom suction cup man!

    • @qbertsandy1367
      @qbertsandy1367 2 роки тому +3

      Why not just use turkey pult or sticky rice or snow pea
      And make em stuck on ice weed

    • @notificationleech5811
      @notificationleech5811 2 роки тому

      @@qbertsandy1367 that works too

    • @ripoldmochachannel
      @ripoldmochachannel Рік тому

      Thank you, my fellow Piemations brethren :)

    • @fabrizeantonio4425
      @fabrizeantonio4425 9 місяців тому

      How different is it from Sap Fling?

  • @blazingblaze250
    @blazingblaze250 2 роки тому +114

    18:05 Cherry bomb. I always think of instant use plants in Vinilla as plants that supplement and support good defenses and Cherry Bomb does that really well. A flat 1800 damage in a 3*3 area is also surprising versatile whether you want to destroy a dense horde or target some special ones in the back.

    • @ultimaterecoil1136
      @ultimaterecoil1136 2 роки тому +5

      Ok but you can honestly use entirely instants and stalls in vanilla. Some plants are even seemingly designed for such setups like thyme warp

  • @The_Shimp
    @The_Shimp 2 роки тому +299

    After leveling it up only once or twice, you only need one to kill a basic zombie, making it much more useful.

    • @underrated1524
      @underrated1524 2 роки тому +77

      I think most people prefer to pretend that the PVZ2 leveling system doesn't exist.

    • @uruacufutsal1
      @uruacufutsal1 2 роки тому +43

      @@underrated1524 You need to spend all your money in the game, or never touch grass to get decent results with levels in most plants. If a plant is only good when levelled, then is not a good plant. Not talking about spikeweed tho, its a nice plant

    • @pg28
      @pg28 10 місяців тому +3

      ⁠@@uruacufutsal1this is true
      Its taken me 2+ years of casual playing to get my peashooter to lvl 5
      (I dont no life. Thats for beat saber and terraria)

    • @familiayoutuber4769
      @familiayoutuber4769 8 місяців тому +5

      ​@@pg28That sounds like a you problem, to be honest. I got him to level 6 in less than a month in by doing daily rewards and buying the starter plant piñata for 2000 coins they offer when you tap "search more" on the tutorial plants.

  • @kenkenn.
    @kenkenn. 2 роки тому +35

    People think Spikeweed is weak for being unable to kill a basic zombie by itself, but it actually is REALLY strong, being able to deal a significant amount of damage over a singular tile along with group dps, and synergizes VERY well with stall plants. Puff Shroom is also strong, packing similar punch to a Peashooter but over a much shorter range.

  • @koalapvz
    @koalapvz 2 роки тому +27

    Never thought I would watch an 18 minute video about spikeweed. Well done

  • @pretentiosaurus
    @pretentiosaurus 2 роки тому +22

    as a spikeweed fan myself, i felt really seen and validated by this video
    i would have spikeweed as an auto include half the time when i played pvz1 (especially outside of story) and i'd never imagined that people would actually think it's bad

  • @gaminggeckos4388
    @gaminggeckos4388 2 роки тому +49

    I like it’s synergy with Winter Melon. Doubling up on the AOE damage is pretty nice, and the slowdown helps the Spikeweed. Then, throw in an instakill plant like Toadstool, and it’s all set to go

  • @chickenturtle5
    @chickenturtle5 2 роки тому +10

    My favorite has been Endurian, partially because he’s a combo plant that isn’t too bad in other eras, but also because he’s just fun to watch as he stares in all directions looking for things to do. It might be simple, but I love it

    • @hanzzel6086
      @hanzzel6086 Рік тому +1

      And he pairs well with Spikeweed!

    • @thunderspark1536
      @thunderspark1536 Місяць тому +1

      ​​@@hanzzel6086 Sadly I've gone from using it to using holly barrier. Knocking 3 lanes of zombies back into a line of spikerocks is too good.

  • @Milesprowerthegamer
    @Milesprowerthegamer 2 роки тому +34

    I want to say, Ultomato seems to work fine in the mods I've used it in, those being GT and ITS. It's probably one of the better modern plants for modmaking.
    In GT, it's actually a really solid earlygame plant and has very good synergy with Escape Root.
    In ITS, it's a REALLY strong lategame plant that had to get nerfed a couple times to stop it from completely dominating levels, but it feels like it's in a well-balanced spot now.
    As for my favourite plant, it's a toss-up between Zoybean and Infi-nut.

    • @jimmyjohnjoejr
      @jimmyjohnjoejr 2 роки тому

      What is ITS?

    • @Milesprowerthegamer
      @Milesprowerthegamer 2 роки тому +2

      @@jimmyjohnjoejr Into the Storm, it's a PvZ2 mod where waves progress automatically rather than based on the damage you deal to the zombies.

    • @jimmyjohnjoejr
      @jimmyjohnjoejr 2 роки тому +1

      @@Milesprowerthegamer ah I see. That sounds interesting honestly, as stalling early waves with potato mines does get old after a while. Haven't played a lot of modded pvz, since eclise's later updates and its community kinda burned me on that. But recently I started altverZ and it's been pretty fun, so I've been looking for mods to play. Any other recommendations?

  • @Have_some_plasma
    @Have_some_plasma 2 роки тому +10

    18:03 When I played cracked vanilla I've had my fair share of favourites.
    Electric Currant with Garlic. Divert zombies in the second and fourth lane and fry them up. Also pairs quite well with the three weeds mentioned in the video, especially with Iceweed or any slows and stalls in general. Rotobaga or Starfruit also make for a great mid lane.
    Another one was Celery Stalker. Without the cracked upgrades I thought that it was useless and it kinda was BUT. It deals high enough damage to be viable and also has quite a bit of HP to stall the crowd. Overall I like letting the whole level pass through only held back by the Thyme warp and then spam the Stalker and its PF to fill the level and watch as the crowd just... disappears.
    Another one was the Banana. Basically a miles better Cob Cannon. Faster reload, shorter fire-hit interval, great damage, what else does a plant need? Well, maybe some sun production.

  • @zandbergx9747
    @zandbergx9747 2 роки тому +6

    Just want to say the clarity of your voice in this video was *much* better than normal, very appreciated and very epic.
    Also cool video, I too can enjoy the role spikeweed has as a reliable "filter" for various zombie types... when there's no gargantuar that is

  • @UlyssesK402
    @UlyssesK402 Рік тому +11

    I've actually used Iceweed, and I'd like to input my thoughts, as I think it's actually pretty interesting.
    Firstly, and most obviously, stalling a zombie above a Spikeweed will allow Spikeweed to do more damage.
    Secondly, however, there's the synergies that Iceweed's chilling effect presents:
    -Bonk Choy has a greater time window to punch chilled zombies before they reach it.
    -Primal Peashooter can keep chilled zombies trapped on Iceweed by applying repeated knock back.
    -Melon Pult can do splash damage to a dense clump of chilled zombies. Worth noting that using Melon Pult and Iceweed is cheaper than using Wintermelon and Spikeweed.
    You aren't using it as a staller to slow zombie progress, but instead, you're using it as a staller to make zombies vulnerable to things that can either kill them or to things that do a better job of slowing zombie progress.
    I definitely recommend giving it a shot, should you get the chance. It's got a lot of potential.

  • @cardboardtoaster2169
    @cardboardtoaster2169 2 роки тому +30

    Hypno shroom is a cool plant to me. Having the enemies attack their team instead (or something like zoy bean) is cool in my opinion

  • @sonetagu1337
    @sonetagu1337 2 роки тому +10

    My favorites, for some reason
    -- Spikerock: ah yes, the chicken and weasel killers. I think that they are also really good at killing up to medium hp zombies, and also pretty easy to use
    -- Twin sunflower: yes. I used Twin Sunflower, unironically. Don't ask why, but i guess having additional 25 sun made this more user friendly-ish, now considering the fact you have to 100% the main game now, not as an option anymore.
    -- Ice Lettuce: zen garden buff made this essentially ice shroom, but free i guess
    --puff shroom, also zen garden buff. Now can be (potentially at least) immortal!

  • @bl4me_me
    @bl4me_me 2 роки тому +76

    18:05 Hypno-Shroom (ive aways got sad about how weak he is, but his design and concept are amazing), Ghost pepper (strong, great design, no flaws), Turkey pult (even tho i never had him, i love his design and his mechanic), Tiger grass (hes kinda weak but i love felines and hes cute), Lightning reed (hes weak too, only use to counter chickens, but hes a pretty nice plant), Winter melon (idk i just like him), Doom-Shroom (sad that he didnt got into pvz2, hes strong as heck) Starfruit (He aways help me, nice concept) Bowling bulb (he got a lot stronger with tiering, also he has a fun concept) Banana launcher (Hes cute, strong, etc)
    ok thats a lot of text, im just gonna say it here if nobody wants read above:
    HypnoShroom,GhostPepper,TurkeyPult,TigerGrass,LightningReed,WinterMelon,DoomShroom,Starfruit,BowlingBulb,BananaLauncher.

    • @cheese_productions
      @cheese_productions 2 роки тому +5

      HYPNO NOT WEK

    • @THGMR-ox7sd
      @THGMR-ox7sd 2 роки тому +5

      I also love hypno-shroom and ghost pepper

    • @alcatraz_444
      @alcatraz_444 2 роки тому +1

      Wtf lightning reed is op af. U only use one lightning reed to take a zombie or what? Do u know reed is a gang up plant. It works in multiplication, the more reed u plant, the more op and deadly it is.
      Also i think u don’t upgrade it enough. U have to upgrade it atleast lvl 3. Pretty op from lvl4/5 where it starts to have 28 damage and starts to multiply it’s damage on crowd zombies. The more the zombie the more damage it deals‼️
      Also reed is cheaper. Lvl4 cost reduced to 100
      And can counter any zombie. Immune to jester and excavator
      WINTER MELON AND REED COMBO can counter any zombie

    • @bl4me_me
      @bl4me_me 2 роки тому +5

      @@alcatraz_444 but every plant is op when u spam it

    • @itsvladbtw1789
      @itsvladbtw1789 2 роки тому +1

      As someone who actually got Turkey Pult, the plant in itself feels really awkward to use. When I use it, it kind of just feels like a worse Zoybean and doesn't really do much but function like a cabbage pult with chip damage. It's ability to stall gargs is decent, but it's just so mediocre in practical use

  • @MonkeyGng
    @MonkeyGng Рік тому +6

    I barely use spikeweed but recently I accidentally unlocked iceweed and I've been using it in like almost every strategy ever since. Also I like boom balloon better than banana launcher cuz I can just spam balloons everywhere and wait for zombies to touch it, meanwhile for banana you gotta look for the zombies tile and place and for faster zombies you gotta place it in front of them cuz of how long the rocket takes to land, and not to mention how expensive it is and how slowly the rocket comes back! My attention span can only handle so much.

  • @Cratmang
    @Cratmang 2 роки тому +41

    I love Kernal-pult more than any other plant in the series. Coincidentally, Spikeweed/Spikerock work pretty well with it.
    Dandelion is a close second, thanks to its reach and (small) aoe attacks.
    I also want to give an honourable mention to the BeeShooter from the defunct PvZ adventures, and the Caramelpult from the original version of PvZ3.

    • @Prof.Guards13
      @Prof.Guards13 2 роки тому +1

      Yes more corn gamers. I love corn guy so much

    • @crizman7032
      @crizman7032 Рік тому

      corn but woman

    • @t0ny.g611
      @t0ny.g611 Рік тому

      corn gamer

    • @hanzzel6086
      @hanzzel6086 Рік тому +1

      ​@@t0ny.g611I love using Kernelpult and spikeweed together. Throw in the holographic potato and a few instas (and maybe wintermelon, just for good measure) and your golden

  • @Saltience
    @Saltience 2 роки тому +27

    I like spikeweed because its one of like one passive damage plants, making it incredibly unique, and is basically the closest to invincible any plant can be.

    • @ffffff6104
      @ffffff6104 2 роки тому +8

      "closest to invincible any plant can be"
      infi nut

    • @dukefang1001
      @dukefang1001 10 місяців тому

      Ghost Pepper:

    • @thunderspark1536
      @thunderspark1536 Місяць тому

      ​@@dukefang1001Instas don't count

    • @dukefang1001
      @dukefang1001 Місяць тому

      @@thunderspark1536 I honestly didn’t know Ghost Pepper was considered an insta. I felt it was more of a Puff-Shroom status, where it has a limited lifetime.

    • @dukefang1001
      @dukefang1001 Місяць тому

      Wait, who was I talking to again?

  • @justinjakeashton
    @justinjakeashton 2 роки тому +6

    In the base game, I almost never removed Potato Mine and Iceberg Lettuce in my lineup all the way to Modern Day. Using them to delay the first few zombie deaths is so good if you can afford the 2 slots. By the time I place my first defensive plant, I already have a full column of max sized Sun Shrooms.

  • @slimesauce3044
    @slimesauce3044 Рік тому +1

    VERY glad there are some more spikeweed appreciators out there

  • @the_godbodor7026
    @the_godbodor7026 2 роки тому +11

    Personally I really like using Spikeweed. Yeah, it does to things like Gargs easily, but it’s got some really good support value by clearing out weaker zombies like Imps, Browncoats, etc.

  • @ddsnutz2917
    @ddsnutz2917 2 роки тому +10

    Favorite has always been Ghost Pepper. Loved the design, feels balanced and it has unique traits that really makes it stand out at the time, that also happen to fit the ghost theme it has. While I havent played much mods of pvz 2 lately, it seems that its also a plant that doesnt really change in gameplay much other than maybe a sun cost change (also it being able to be planted on other plants from that gameplay looks really interesting, fits the theme and looks it can applicated in unique strategies)

  • @katinthegetto2916
    @katinthegetto2916 2 роки тому +11

    My favourite plant has and always will be iceberg lettuce, although I really dislike the levelling system. Iceberg remains as that one constant plant that just makes sense, it’s a plant that freezes on contact, and that’s it. I love its design and its simplicity, simply everything about it. Even the costumes

  • @Therevengeforget
    @Therevengeforget 2 роки тому +14

    Favourite plant? Lightning Reed, Red Stinger, and AKEE are first three that come to head.
    I have not played any mods, but the Reed is just fun. _Plain joy,_ to pick. When I played vanilla pvz2, I time and time again chose Lightning Reed and spammed it, and see it wreck things
    Stinger because it looks cool, is basically a gatling pea stat-wise (iirc) in closest 3 lanes to home, and unless there are excavator zombies/its frostbite caves, it's a great plant
    AKEE just has that smile and I _love_ it. Plus I enjoy it's gimmick, sad however that it's not that good. I usually use it with the Stinger to cover eachother's weaknesses. *It's plantfood sucks tho in my opinion.*

  • @username5155
    @username5155 Рік тому +3

    3:26 This clip has bothered me since I first saw this video. Flying zombies aren’t new. One of the flying zombies in PVZ2 is literally taken from PVZ.

    • @ThePartyProfessors
      @ThePartyProfessors 11 місяців тому +1

      I'm seething with rage over what's really just a smal meaningless mistake, scouring the comments for anyone else who felt the same lol

  • @risinivy
    @risinivy 4 місяці тому +2

    I know I'm incredibly late, but personally I'd say my favorite plant may be Parsnip or Hurrikale.
    Sure they're not the simplest, but they’re consistent. They make a big impact in the lane they're in, yet still leave enough room for frequent use cases.
    Parsnip is a little more demanding in terms of strategy, admittedly. Parsnip's heavy damage, decent price, fast recharge, and last-ditch attack down the lane make it good for putting on almost any frontlines, protected or not. As long as they aren't instakilled, you can be certain that a Parsnip will guarantee anything ahead in its lane will be really hurting, sooner or later.
    Hurrikale essentially takes the entire lane's zombies and shoves em back to the right side of the board, while also slowing them to a crawl. Plus, doing this completely shuts down anything airborne in the lane too, which are usually faster than groundborne zombies, so that gets a bit more value out of the stalling. The instant use makes it a fantastic emergency tool, immediately relieving the pressure on one of your lanes for a good while.
    And, I'll admit, I also just really love their designs and names, hehe

  • @okaykoolaid49
    @okaykoolaid49 2 роки тому +6

    My favorite plant would be the Kernel-Pult. Getting the lucky butter to freeze the zombie in place for a short amount of time was so rewarding as a kid, especially when you would get multiple butters in the row. I feel like it's balanced, both with the luck aspect and the fact that the kernel attack probably does less damage than a cabbage or a pea

    • @hanzzel6086
      @hanzzel6086 Рік тому

      The kernel only does 1/2 damage of a pea/cabbage/butter.

  • @krispyhappy
    @krispyhappy 2 роки тому +6

    The two Eclise plants that you mentioned, I have made crazy fun strategy's with galumight and Crystal shroom
    galumight is a great instant version of garlic saving you if you have a lack of defence in one lane, and can be a vary powerful zombie stall, as well as a general manipulation tool
    Crystal shroom has value in being a great group stalling tool, has great synergies with what was an anti-synergy for other plants, like fire, knock-back, other types of stall, it's vary well rounded with the weakness of that one effect unlike other stallers.

    • @andrewgreeb916
      @andrewgreeb916 2 роки тому +2

      Chrystal shroom is the discount stall version of the winter melon.
      Which to be fair stall is an important strategy in eclise.

  • @Zackwashacked
    @Zackwashacked 2 роки тому +7

    another plant you can pair with this is pvz2's current torchwood.
    the fire dmg when near + lane wide dmg upon defeat will prove to be enough to kill a group of cone heads or even some bucketheads. the only problem is its durability compared to some defensive plants. it only has 2000 compared to durian's 3000. plus torchwood can only do 10 dmg at close while durian can do 20 dmg at close. but due to the lanewide defeat, it could be a strong temporary offensive shield when you need to create a stronger defense.

  • @AllToastersToastToast
    @AllToastersToastToast 2 роки тому +9

    “Simple to understand, doesn’t have any inherent complexities, but can be used in complex ways.”
    Exactly what should be strived for. When designing games, we tend towards making the overall design complex instead of making the strategies around them complex. I’ve fallen into that trap at least once.
    But when we make a design intuitive, and instead build upon it with interesting ways to use it, we get great design. We get Spikeweed.

  • @shellpoptheepicswordmaster755
    @shellpoptheepicswordmaster755 2 роки тому +6

    Red stinger is temporary, spikeweed is eternal.

  • @_Tzer
    @_Tzer 2 роки тому +1

    3:26 i feel like balloon zombies would be immune if you could use em on the roof flying zombies aint new.

  • @Sam_The_Game_Dev
    @Sam_The_Game_Dev 2 роки тому +51

    My favorite part was when spikeweed said: "It's spiking time!" and spiked all the zombies, I cried and sobbed for 72 hours straight because of how revolutionary it was, truly a work of art!

  • @Coleecool
    @Coleecool Рік тому

    I don't know about the mods, but in the og version, Red Stinger is an offensive and defensive plant. The reason why his offense is reduced when placed in the middle three tiles is because he becomes more defensive while also doing the damage of a peashooter. And when he clapses both leaves together, he becomes entirely defensive. This doesn't have much of a purpose other than being a faster loading walnut.

  • @razvansialtele2official
    @razvansialtele2official 2 роки тому +8

    18:05
    (just some of them)
    Bonk-Choy: he is reliable, has good damage, good cost for what he does, and his plantfood is cherry bomb but looks cooler.
    Outclassed by newer plants? Yes, but... who cares?
    Zoybean: I just really like this little bean, while he might not be that unique as he servers as a permanent Hypno-Shroom and a more reliable Caulipower. He is still a really cool plant that I really like. Even though he ain't the most original.
    Celery Stalker: he is a sneaky Bonk-Choy, and I really like Bonk-Choy.
    Also funny joke there PopCap, put a plant with "Stalker" in it's name just before the level where you send girl zombies.
    Chomper: I always loved Chomper, since PvZ1, soo of course he is one of my favorites in PvZ2.
    ToadStool? **** outta here with that cheap copy.
    Thyme Warp: What can I say, this guy is a massive help.

  • @mbstarburstmapper3842
    @mbstarburstmapper3842 Рік тому +1

    turkeypult and stickybomb rice make a deadly combo though, being able to easily deal with gargantuars.

  • @RealMrLazy
    @RealMrLazy 2 роки тому +7

    I think spike weed is extremely usefully in certain levels and against certain enemys

  • @manamau8506
    @manamau8506 Рік тому +2

    Probably Kernel-pult - I simply just love the idea of throwing butter

  • @dapperpotatoes8473
    @dapperpotatoes8473 2 роки тому +4

    My favourite has always been puff shroom ever since I saw it in the first game. And I really liked the reworked mechanics of the second game. There’s not particularly any synergy, it’s just a really good plant for early game and you can just plant it for the entire game if you want.
    Scaredy-shroom is a close second, RIP.

  • @LaCabraAsada
    @LaCabraAsada Рік тому +1

    I haven't played PVZ2 (and I'm still debating if I should), but I really liked spikeweed in PVZ1, it was just fun seeing all of the zombies die before even reaching the second lane, or infront of wallnut.
    Idk, I just like it.

  • @rorusvalorenduda1503
    @rorusvalorenduda1503 2 роки тому +18

    I haven't used iceweed too but I think it's good to use with plant attackers that doesn't have ice or fire but there are torch zombies or fast ones

    • @rorusvalorenduda1503
      @rorusvalorenduda1503 2 роки тому +3

      Btw I don't like plants you have to manually use to attack but boom balloon is way better than banana launcher or the ice copy

    • @paul_particularlyunhappynut
      @paul_particularlyunhappynut 2 роки тому +1

      @@rorusvalorenduda1503 lol "ice copy". accurate description

    • @paul_particularlyunhappynut
      @paul_particularlyunhappynut 2 роки тому +1

      i swear, i tried iceweed and it's ASS. The damage is sooooo bad, even with the fact it slows zombies the damage is horrible. It has trouble killing a browncoat, when spikeweed can kill a browcoat with ONE tile, and spikeweed isn't that strong itself! If you want to slow zombies why tf wouldn't you just use winter melon?

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname 2 роки тому +2

      Iceweed looks like they tried to make a 1 plant combo,
      It has a lot of features but isn't good at anything.

    • @RaphielShiraha64
      @RaphielShiraha64 2 роки тому

      ​@@BramLastname If i ever made a pvz1 mod i always thought it would be interesting if we got a aquatic version of spikeweed, maybe it could do higher damage against aquatic zombies if placed on water, meanwhile on land it could have reduced damage, then i would replace spikerock to basically be similar to the aquatic spikeweed but in the opposite, working better on land and still being good on water but more on land.
      major reason i say pvz1 is because pvz2 or even mods really don't use water a lot.

  • @electrichydra5944
    @electrichydra5944 2 роки тому

    spikeweed is my favorite plant as well, and I'm glad it gets the recognition it deserves from you

  • @NeoBing
    @NeoBing 2 роки тому +2

    video should be titled "Why Spikeweed is weally cool", idfk why i just want it to be

    • @NeoBing
      @NeoBing 2 роки тому +2

      @TelPhiofc it's a weed pun, it's a really stupid one and i want it as the title

    • @paul_particularlyunhappynut
      @paul_particularlyunhappynut 2 роки тому

      u must of been high on weed to think of that pun

  • @just_pluto_
    @just_pluto_ 2 роки тому

    18:05 bowling bulb! The more enemies the better, and the fact that i play on vanilla and have never spent a single cent in the game makes it one of the best options against large hoards

  • @firstwaddledee9182
    @firstwaddledee9182 2 роки тому +3

    My favorite plant is definitely ghost pepper. A weaker multilane spikeweed that is unkillable and explodes after a while really intrigues me.

  • @shane_gaming171
    @shane_gaming171 Рік тому +1

    14:50 That plant also one shots any flying zombie, by the way.

    • @hollowknightenjoyer
      @hollowknightenjoyer 2 місяці тому

      Wow, I didn't know. Thanks, oh this was a year ago dam

  • @goldberg91
    @goldberg91 2 роки тому +5

    0:12 it is better than banana cause you cant set up banana shots all over the map but you can with oombloon or whatever its named

  • @hiima2860
    @hiima2860 2 роки тому +2

    I honestly like this plant too!
    It really helps especially in pvz1 when it comes to the vehicles

  • @soloswtch5909
    @soloswtch5909 11 місяців тому +5

    Someone tell me why I kept on pressing the suns on the screen smh

    • @bat__queen
      @bat__queen 8 місяців тому

      you’ve been playing pvz for too long please take a break

  • @DrPootis
    @DrPootis 2 роки тому +1

    "A new type of zombie in flying zombies"
    *Sad balloon noises*

  • @dovahkat9635
    @dovahkat9635 2 роки тому +8

    I'd call spikeweed one of the most consistently reliable plants. Will almost always find good use in any level (except big wave beach of course). Plus it's weaknesses are easy to deal with. Flying zombies? *Laughs in blover*
    Gargs? That's what explosives and stuns are for.
    Plus it's plant food is a great way to basically reset a lane in emergencies.

  • @Blockhead-lc6fr
    @Blockhead-lc6fr Рік тому +1

    As a casual, I like the combo of Bonk Choy, Wallnut, Spikeweed. I find that it does a really good job at dealing with hordes (at least on the earlier levels).

  • @RedStinger_0
    @RedStinger_0 2 роки тому +4

    9:27 idk what i do

  • @WarriorMiller-zk2lu
    @WarriorMiller-zk2lu Рік тому +2

    Spikeweed/rock/Iceweed can also be used as a really good prospector counter in the back with pumpkin, because if it flies to c1 and you have a row of pumpkins and spikeweeds down, they still attack and take care of them before they can kill all your plants, sorta like a weird and probably worse endurian.

    • @hanzzel6086
      @hanzzel6086 Рік тому

      Iceweed is just good at shutting down prospectors (and torch zombies) period, as long as you can keep iceweed in the first two rows of every lane they pretty much shut down prospectors gimmick. I would prefer Wintermelons in the back, but the weekend is so much cheaper and easier to set up

    • @Sunneh2013
      @Sunneh2013 Рік тому

      If ya use ice weed then ya basically got chilldurian, aka cold endurian.

  • @big__shell
    @big__shell 2 роки тому +6

    my favourite plants are probably ghost pepper and snap dragon, probably leaning more to ghost pepper because of its versatility.
    in pretty much any level that i can i'll often use 2 lines of snap dragons, a line of walls and then spikerock and instas(mainly ghost pepper) for support.
    seeing walls of fire delete the zombies just gives me dopamine. is cold snap dragon better? yeah, probably. but honestly i've never used it, haven't played any pvz 2 mods or anything and i'm just going off of when i used to play pvz 2.
    maybe i should try out mods, but i'm not sure i want to dedicate too much time to a game i used to enjoy. i mean i still would like to enjoy it, pvz was a huge part of my childhood, but the games have simply just been ruined over time

  • @Sculler14
    @Sculler14 2 роки тому +1

    I always liked how spikerock/double spikeweed can kill basics/imps easily, I've seen interesting modded levels where zombies spawn in huge bunches, spikeweed makes an interesting counter

  • @harryl3769
    @harryl3769 2 роки тому +3

    I’m curious of your opinion on celery stalker as I find it sharing many synergies with spike weed such being paired with stalling plants as well as plants like wall nut but it speacializes on dealing better single target damage instead of area damage but is also cheaper and leaves itself vulnerable while attacking

    • @Creeps20
      @Creeps20  2 роки тому +4

      Celery is a good plant. Thats about it, I don't feel strongly on it, but its pretty fun in a lot of strats.

  • @apassenger4877
    @apassenger4877 9 місяців тому

    I used to avoid using spikeweed before but recently after seeing the consistent damage it can do at the front lines compared to usually having nothing there, i find myself using it more and more, so i understand you having it as a fave

  • @carabibi2913
    @carabibi2913 2 роки тому +6

    0:35 what mod is that?

    • @Creeps20
      @Creeps20  2 роки тому +3

      Nightcast. Discord server if you are interested: discord.gg/WwHnvZZ

    • @lebollsong
      @lebollsong 2 роки тому

      Eclise (source: just trust me bro)

    • @lebollsong
      @lebollsong 2 роки тому

      @Ngố Bi yeah ikr 😡😡😡!!!

  • @leopardbunny
    @leopardbunny 8 місяців тому

    My personal favorite plant is Buttercup. The idea of a "wall" with regular plant hp is funny to me, but its butter shots make it function surprisingly well as one in the early game, while still allowing it to stall late-game and even dealing some decent damage as multiple zombies biting it means multiple butter projectiles. For good measure, it can solo a basic (at least in Altverz) so it even functions as an insta in many cases.

  • @Barakon
    @Barakon 2 роки тому +4

    What emulator do you use?

  • @Reragi
    @Reragi Рік тому +2

    I am simple man.
    Favorite plant? Doom Shroom. Big boom make me happy.
    Also spikerock because it's spikeweed 2

  • @kizzie8066
    @kizzie8066 Рік тому +3

    8:32 wtf is going on xd

  • @temmieKAT
    @temmieKAT 2 роки тому

    18:05 shrinking violet. The thought of it could have been so cool, and if you get it in the garden and place it it shrinks the whole map, when something gets shrunken they get half HP taken away and imps insta die.

  • @vietkoala303
    @vietkoala303 2 роки тому +4

    I would kill for a video about sun producers and how good they are + comparing and usage

    • @Creeps20
      @Creeps20  2 роки тому +4

      Honestly it'd be a fun video but a veeeery difficult one to make, due to every mod's sun meta being different, but it could be interesting to see at some point.

  • @jacobreash7369
    @jacobreash7369 2 роки тому +1

    Make more of these videos pls you only have like 6 I need to watch more. I don’t even play the game but I might now. Thanks for the amazing content.

  • @Virbel
    @Virbel 8 місяців тому +4

    Most of ur arguments piss me off, sure some I agree with but why go all snobby at the viewer and say like “blank is SIMPLY better” or just manipulate the audience. It’s kinda shitty

  • @jesseyu162
    @jesseyu162 Рік тому +1

    I never used Spikeweed/Spikerock in the first game, but after trying it out in the second, I LOVE it. I honestly don’t even have a reason for liking it, I just do.

  • @autonomous8108
    @autonomous8108 2 роки тому +1

    I liked using spike weed in PvZ 1. It thought it was really unique, and usually those were the plants I went for. The spike rock upgrade made it feel even cooler to use when I was a kid lol

  • @hundow3340
    @hundow3340 2 роки тому

    I don't even play PVZ and love your vids, they are just so interesting. Keep it up!

  • @samuellillge9319
    @samuellillge9319 2 роки тому

    It's always interesting to see things like this pop up in my youtube feed. I never realised that PvZ had such a serious meta.

  • @renotoad
    @renotoad 2 роки тому +1

    I like that you can beat several levels with just spikeweeds in every spot

  • @renote5559
    @renote5559 Рік тому +2

    This is really interesting take on such mediocer looking plant, it makes me want to use it more 👍
    Also my favorite plants are Corn pult, Iceberg lettuce and Lightning reed

  • @1jovsby
    @1jovsby Рік тому +1

    As a fellow spike weed enjoyer I would agree

  • @fatmario8244
    @fatmario8244 2 роки тому +1

    Love this plant, spike rock especially. I love a combo of winter melons and spike rocks.

  • @heyheyitsjae2475
    @heyheyitsjae2475 2 роки тому

    Two spikeweed, a tallnut, and a chomper was my favorite frontline in PVZ 1. You can't use it often, but when you can it's so satisfying!

  • @thatonetreeobsessedwithyt
    @thatonetreeobsessedwithyt 2 роки тому +1

    Another thing about spikeweed: you can plant it on top of the flowers that you can’t let the zombies trample, so they can walk over it.

  • @Vexcenot
    @Vexcenot 2 роки тому +1

    I love how spikerock's Gigantiar tank works in both pvz 1 and 2

  • @NylonGenesis
    @NylonGenesis Рік тому

    I’m so glad other people understand just how good spikeweed is. It and spikerock have become a main staple of most of my loadouts for pvz2 solely because they’re great additional damage for fairly cheap.

  • @Victoria_Huot
    @Victoria_Huot 11 місяців тому

    My favourite strategy involves mostly spiky plants. I love using endurian with the stone variant of spikeweed. This strategy is also really good against gargantuars because you can make it constantly strike one plant as you refresh it while being hit by another one and having two bonkchois on each side hitting it too for huge dps. I also like placing a ton of spikeweeds and teleporting all the zombies back to the start to have them walk over it again.

  • @TheMilkshakeMarxist
    @TheMilkshakeMarxist Рік тому

    Magnifying grass, really puts emphasis on reasource management and gives you a gun in exchange

  • @Jelly_shy_guy_man
    @Jelly_shy_guy_man 8 місяців тому +1

    Of course, I am also saying Cool too much, so maybe I should stop.
    ...nah. Cool is a cool word, so I should keep saying it. Thats simply just

  • @pieguy101
    @pieguy101 2 роки тому +1

    it still looks like it would sell me weed but less now i guess

  • @MichelleObamnaJanet
    @MichelleObamnaJanet 2 роки тому +1

    I definitely agree, is my favourite early game plant - couple it with a wall plant and it DESTROYS

  • @deanbillman4426
    @deanbillman4426 2 роки тому

    7:14 “and are unable to generate damage”
    Endurian
    Macadamia nut
    Explodo-nut
    Holly barrier (I think that’s it’s name)

  • @zooms9380
    @zooms9380 2 роки тому +1

    I found spikeweed... Really cute, is adorable

  • @rikord2
    @rikord2 Рік тому

    Creep: A new type of zombie called flying zombies.
    Balloon Zombie from PvZ1: Am I a joke to you?

  • @arqueiroXD
    @arqueiroXD 2 роки тому

    Spikeweed was one my favorite plants to use. I just really like this style of creatures in this kinds of games.

  • @Barakon
    @Barakon 2 роки тому +1

    I like the emo ass cold snapdragon.

  • @aleister0705
    @aleister0705 2 роки тому +1

    18:05 my favorite plants are: cold snap, spikerock, endurian, laser bean, bowling bulb, cherry bomb and sun shoorm