Underrated Plants in Plants VS Zombies 2

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  • Опубліковано 16 лис 2024

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  • @Creeps20
    @Creeps20  Рік тому +823

    ok i fixed the timestamps i was up to 4am getting the video setup ok my bad

    • @oatstrich
      @oatstrich Рік тому +6

      makes sense

    • @KPoWasTaken
      @KPoWasTaken Рік тому +5

      Don't worry about it
      Happy easter!
      Also good video!

    • @tomasbeltran04050
      @tomasbeltran04050 Рік тому +4

      Þanks for your effort

    • @doc_1203
      @doc_1203 Рік тому +4

      thanks and happy easter

    • @royaleghostgg
      @royaleghostgg Рік тому +3

      Hey, I don't think bowling bulbs and chard guard are underrated. This two has their own strat like bowling bulb as DPS in certain arena buff/bruise and chard guard is one of the strat where ppl throw zombie off screen and killing it

  • @shockdoggo6889
    @shockdoggo6889 Рік тому +4963

    I think its really funny how many of the big wave beach plants are actually really good its just theyre introduced in a world that is absolutely awful to them

    • @Creeps20
      @Creeps20  Рік тому +1528

      you know, when making this video it didn't click that literally half of the list are BWB plants but yeah you right

    • @ramirez9317
      @ramirez9317 Рік тому +567

      Rotoboga works better in BWB than its own world lol

    • @popdg2412
      @popdg2412 Рік тому +287

      ​​@@ramirez9317 imo it's still broken in its own world, demolishes ice blocks if you use it in mass and most zombies there other than ice cubes and gargs can't out bulk their damage

    • @benjypineapple2570
      @benjypineapple2570 Рік тому +125

      And the plants of neon mixtape just suck 😅

    • @agustinval1508
      @agustinval1508 Рік тому +51

      iirc reflourished has a level in the egypt expansion that requires protecting 4 bowling bulbs, and they arent bad there, further proving the point

  • @shybandit521
    @shybandit521 Рік тому +1233

    i know we arent talking about arena mode here, but coconut cannon is actually kinda OP in arena mode. the plant food pushes zombies to the back, where they give the most points, and then its a huge damage explosion, not to mention that it already kills groups of zombies really fast on its own.

    • @marigold_lord
      @marigold_lord Рік тому +81

      Bowling Bulb is also surprisingly good too. Tile Turnip + Bulb + Power Lily = Alternative to Pea Vine/MGP/Torchwood

    • @random_guy7983
      @random_guy7983 Рік тому +5

      Phat beet?

    • @Vividlyforgotten
      @Vividlyforgotten Рік тому +33

      @@random_guy7983 tf phat beet cant barely kill anything even with plant food , its like bonk choy plant food but way worst

    • @random_guy7983
      @random_guy7983 Рік тому +3

      @@Vividlyforgotten oh that means i use the wrong plant

    • @andiet1131
      @andiet1131 Рік тому +3

      Shadow plants rule arena moonflower and dusk lobber primal wallnut primal potato mine ez wins best strategy for me ngl

  • @Mikeinator_
    @Mikeinator_ Рік тому +985

    I have no idea why Guacodile has a ranged attack, it's so counterintuitive. With the ranged attack, you want to place it in the back to take advantage of it, but its melee only works up close, so it wants to be placed at the frontlines! This is probably why people are so confused about it.

    • @DocSlayingyoudown
      @DocSlayingyoudown Рік тому +199

      It's probably because of the big wave beach, the beach's main purpose was to pierce through defences, and common players always place their ranged plant to defend their Sunflowers (In an era where Sunflower are always on the back), also Guacodile is a cheap frontline plant which could protect more expensive plant like Banana Launcher and Bowling Bulb because back then players like to use cheaper plants like peashooter to protect their stronger plant

    • @iam4026
      @iam4026 Рік тому +73

      Really? I’ve always seen Guacodile as a melee plant first, and his seeds were just a bonus attack should the zombies not reach him yet

    • @thepizzaman6310
      @thepizzaman6310 Рік тому +44

      Parsnip is like a guacadile that makes sense. A combo of a melee attack and a death rush both encourage frontline use, so it is very obvious how to use it.

    • @Eliza-hb1nc
      @Eliza-hb1nc Рік тому +8

      same for pea-nut, but that has high health instead of a melee attack.

    • @ethangnasher3848
      @ethangnasher3848 Рік тому +6

      I use them in both scenarios, just to have an insurance to weak zombies getting through thanks to hordes. Kinda works.

  • @welkin7321
    @welkin7321 Рік тому +986

    it could be interesting to see a video on “fundamentally flawed” plants with flawed designs like aloe!

    • @welkin7321
      @welkin7321 Рік тому +96

      or just an aloe video in general… i love aloe 🫶🥬

    • @Mac_Spector
      @Mac_Spector Рік тому +135

      @@welkin7321 yes I'd love to see that too, it'll be even better if Aloe gets compared to it's PVZ2 China version, which is one of the most broken plants in the game

    • @Quasarel
      @Quasarel Рік тому +30

      Aloe from eclise is straight up my favourite plant in the game

    • @iker9095
      @iker9095 Рік тому +9

      Tomb tangler: ...

    • @melvint-p9500
      @melvint-p9500 Рік тому +21

      ​@@iker9095 tomb isn't fundamentally broken. It's just that pvz2 doesn't have enough graves for it

  • @icouldntthinkofagoodname7216
    @icouldntthinkofagoodname7216 Рік тому +136

    To be honest, I use Bowling bulb on Arena more than I have expected specially during those plant food use when planting them. Really clears out a lot, I mean A LOT of Zombies on Arena. The bounce explosive really made me rise from wooden to bronze silver league

  • @ryelo5448
    @ryelo5448 Рік тому +691

    Is char gaurd really underated? I always felt it was really well known and liked

    • @tienluong9648
      @tienluong9648 Рік тому +91

      I don't think so, when talking about defensive plants, the majority always brought up Infi-nut and its PF. Also, I watched a vid that did a survey asking which are the most OP plants and Chad God isn't even Top 20

    • @ahuman32478
      @ahuman32478 Рік тому +59

      When I first started playing PvZ2 and saw chard guard in videos I was like “it just pushed back zombies a couple tiles? trash”. But when I actually got to Frostbite Caves, I saw how useful it was, and it’s been a favorite of mine since

    • @iam4026
      @iam4026 Рік тому +41

      @@ahuman32478 yeah, char guard is immensely useful against Gargantuars where your plants can’t kill it before he kills them. He usually pushes the Gargantuars right before he is smashed so it’s even more helpful…just don’t plant it right in front of the Gs or they’ll smash him before he pushes them

    • @zacharyhsieh9358
      @zacharyhsieh9358 Рік тому +6

      Honestly at first glance I hated it just because its ridiculously long cd for a very temp plant. That’s why primal has always been better for me (besides arena)

    • @RandomFurry07
      @RandomFurry07 Рік тому +10

      I just met someone on Creep's "Overrated Plants" video who just disses Chard Guard just because it can only push zombies 3 times

  • @ScottishShogun
    @ScottishShogun Рік тому +255

    There is kinda a reason why both melon pults are not allowed in Last Stand levels.

    • @mailcs06
      @mailcs06 Рік тому +48

      Yeah. They utterly trivialize them.
      Haha melon goes KILL.

    • @melvint-p9500
      @melvint-p9500 Рік тому +28

      I'm pretty sure Winter Melon is allowed, actually. It's only Melon Pult that's banned

    • @SalmonRow
      @SalmonRow 8 місяців тому +16

      @@melvint-p9500 functionally banned due to cost

    • @malachiaguilar5127
      @malachiaguilar5127 8 місяців тому +8

      I used winter melon in almost every last stand level and it worked out fine​@@SalmonRow

    • @ThisIsntAYoutuber
      @ThisIsntAYoutuber 2 місяці тому +1

      And then they allow Pokra into last stand levels. 🤦

  • @Tailsbot98761
    @Tailsbot98761 Рік тому +93

    "base forms, level one, base game only"
    1v1, fox only, final destination

    • @blueyandicy
      @blueyandicy Рік тому +8

      closer to 1v1, no items, final destination but agreed

    • @unfunniestman
      @unfunniestman 3 місяці тому +4

      BATTLEZ.
      MASTERY 200.
      WINTER MELON.

    • @PanagiotisPolitis-bl9xj
      @PanagiotisPolitis-bl9xj 2 місяці тому +3

      The year is 20🍌🍌, everyone runs banana launcher. Matches are decided by who has a higher mastery level

    • @braedenmclean5304
      @braedenmclean5304 2 місяці тому

      Walleye warehouse, you get the rubber band controller

  • @GNVS300
    @GNVS300 Рік тому +177

    The only reason i've never really used Chard Guard is because I primarily use defensive plants in conjunction with melee plants, which makes Chard Guard counter-intuitive.

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname Рік тому +15

      Chard Guard seems like it's supposed to be used with plants like infinut, levitater and primal pea shooter,
      As the knockback helps them to do what they are meant to do.
      Also Chard Guard is a cheap and effective counter against flying zombies, backline intruders and Jurassic Bullies,
      Which is a niche that makes Jurassic Marsh so much more manageable.

    • @lolucorn1
      @lolucorn1 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@BramLastnameI am a Chard Guard user and I use it in conjunction with infi-nut in order to create very reliable stalling lasting almost the entire game. I also use banana launcher as a main attacker so having them clump up every zombie makes it insanely satisfying

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname 10 місяців тому +1

      @@lolucorn1 while I don't like manual plants
      (Because I'm not that good at the game)
      I do like blowing up a horde of Zombies.

    • @lolucorn1
      @lolucorn1 10 місяців тому +1

      @@BramLastname as the video said, you just use the bananas in half decent spots and suddenly the game is over. That's especially true if you greed as much sun as you can early on, I've finished a good amount of levels with 2 rows of Banana Launchers and by then all thought leaves in favour of babana

    • @elkingoh4543
      @elkingoh4543 10 місяців тому +1

      It was more fun to use in Pirate Seas

  • @the_godbodor7026
    @the_godbodor7026 Рік тому +302

    Banana is so underrated. It’s absurdly strong, really fun to use, and is just adorable. I’m honestly upset you unlock it so extremely late as I would love to use it a lot more than we really get to

    • @nicholas7743
      @nicholas7743 Рік тому +31

      Who is underrating banana launcher?? Everybody knows it's good.

    • @the_godbodor7026
      @the_godbodor7026 Рік тому +16

      @@nicholas7743 Many of my friends think it's bad. They still think this no matter how many times I show them how good it is.

    • @MRMOON-jk1cs
      @MRMOON-jk1cs Рік тому +17

      @@nicholas7743 No they're right, most people really don't pay a lot of attention to banana launcher because of its cost

    • @p.e.miranda2038
      @p.e.miranda2038 Рік тому +3

      @@MRMOON-jk1cs And because it takes all the way until the last of BWB

    • @scotterboi9
      @scotterboi9 Рік тому +1

      It's also just really fun. BORRRRNANA

  • @mannydani9180
    @mannydani9180 Рік тому +72

    I think another underrated one from my experience is rotobaga. If i hadn't seen your vid on Big Wave Beach, i would have NEVER thought to bring it and allow me to win (relatively) painlessly since it's a strong option to drop in the front half of the lawn that you're not gonna be using otherwise and the fact it ignores water...i love it

    • @ZombieMiraculer74
      @ZombieMiraculer74 Рік тому +7

      I have to agree mate. Other than those you mentioned, it is also helpful against backward zombies attacking the left side of your lawn. I think most Frostbite Caves obtained plants are considered underrated as well.

    • @grassperrysvn4543
      @grassperrysvn4543 8 місяців тому

      like bro , rotobaga + infinut is unstoppable

    • @ThisIsntAYoutuber
      @ThisIsntAYoutuber 2 місяці тому +2

      Rotobaga and Starfruit are both really based in game modes that aren’t endless mode. They still have the “spam to kill everything in every direction” aspect and haven’t lost it in PvZ2.

  • @liber2350
    @liber2350 Рік тому +50

    I feel like bowling bulb is only underrated because it’s homeworld is big wave beach, which has consistent buckethead spam so it can’t regain its large bulb, alongside the difficulty of using instant use plants

    • @quackers519
      @quackers519 Рік тому +6

      Well everything that’s not instant use is covered in octopi

    • @PonConAgain9718
      @PonConAgain9718 24 дні тому +1

      Same case with Banana Launcher. It's a perfect counter to all the annoying zombies in Big Wave Beach, bug it's unlocked so late into it that it doesn't have a use. The few levels of BWB you have it for don't work for it, and the majority of Modern Day doesn't either, as the portals lead zombies directly into your defenses

  • @Bodacious_Crustacious
    @Bodacious_Crustacious Рік тому +38

    Gonna say it because apparently this is unknown. Chardgard is one of the best plants because of it's hidden ability. It can be repaired with the Repair Nut Perk. So you can plant another one on the original to heal it, plus plant food repairs it as well, making the plant harder to kill if used right.

    • @helm36
      @helm36 Рік тому +9

      Repairing is worse than shoveling the plant and then replanting it because you don't receive % of the sun back. This ability is pretty much useless unless you have protecting the plant or don't lose more than x plants as an objective. You can also make a point that repairing is easier and faster but like meh, it's half a second

    • @Bodacious_Crustacious
      @Bodacious_Crustacious Рік тому

      @@helm36 Shoveling isn't necessary in most cases either way.

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname Рік тому +5

      ​@@helm36eh, Chard Guard is so cheap it barely makes a difference.

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname Рік тому +1

      Chard Guard also matches up well against a lot of annoying Zombies,
      Most notably Jurassic Bully, Chicken Wrangler, Prospector and most Gargantuars.

    • @KhajaSodhu
      @KhajaSodhu Рік тому

      @@BramLastname I've beat Ancient Egypt day 23 with chard guard and I have to say. Chard guard is not that good with gargs. Maybe because I'm using it like an instant. But Gargs usually just smash the chard guard before it pushes back

  • @zeul6758
    @zeul6758 Рік тому +24

    my favorite part of chard guard is the fact that it completely counters chickens and weasels

  • @CoolyCools
    @CoolyCools Рік тому +87

    FINALLY, someone spoke up about guacodile. I love that guy

  • @LoarvicLoarvic
    @LoarvicLoarvic Рік тому +14

    Guacodile is like the Bladesinger in DnD: it can do ranged damage to those who haven't reached it yet, but when they are...oh, they'll regret it.

  • @KPoWasTaken
    @KPoWasTaken Рік тому +67

    For me if a plant is really really good even if it gets outclassed then it's underrated if majority of community considers it bad.
    Most underrated plants are usually hard to use plants that are really good or really good plants that still manage to get outclassed.
    Or it's just a plant having a 2nd trait (such as guacodile being a peashooter) that is useless making others not focus on the good trait.
    I use coconut cannon quite a lot when replaying the game but then other plants that outclass it appear and then it's ditched. This is what sucks.
    Wait chard guard is underrated? I thought most people knew it was good, even Wolfy Playz figured out it is good and he is normally not that good at PvZ.
    Banana Launcher is an extremely good plant but it's a harder (but not too hard) to use plant but since it appears so late you don't have time learn how to use it to it's fullest potential

    • @sophielei1523
      @sophielei1523 Рік тому

      to long

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname Рік тому +4

      I recognize that Banana is a good plant,
      But as someone who's not great at managing manual plants,
      I prefer Coconut Cannon over Banana.
      Tho I dislike Magni, despite it's easy usage,
      Because if I've got the sun to use it
      I could just use it on improving my defence or instas.
      So Magni just feels like it's a hassle.

  • @bandibandibandibandi
    @bandibandibandibandi Рік тому +16

    Your video dedicated to bowling bulb taught me the secret power of this plant and it's one of my favourites in the whole game now lol

  • @alejanproh2961
    @alejanproh2961 Рік тому +46

    a lot of these plants are great as long as you know how to print sun like US department of treasury prints money, a skill many newer players don't immediately grasp.
    also, I don't think magni really forces the player to run it as the sole damage dealer. you can use it with literally anything as long as you can produce enough sun, and even as a pseudo insta, due to its cheap cost and fast recharge, similar to guac, but with more focus on single target damage. sometimes it's even preferable to use it with some aoe plant because wasting 50 sun on basics and 100 on coneheads can be draining if the level is spammy enough.

    • @MikhailAurellio
      @MikhailAurellio Рік тому +1

      True

    • @gaerekxenos
      @gaerekxenos Рік тому +2

      I actually hate using Magnifying Grass for this very reason. I stock up tons of sun to spam Turnip Tiles for enhanced spam, so it directly runs counter to my goals

    • @gamermikemain111
      @gamermikemain111 Рік тому

      I like mag in early game and then using it on the stronger enemies later on as I set up stuff like winter melon as I ramp sun by spamming sun shrooms

    • @Dexuz
      @Dexuz Рік тому +1

      Magni, similar to Banana, pairs up really well with Laser Bean, even a single line of Beans is enough to clean up all the basics.

    • @Naito115
      @Naito115 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Dexuzand also deal enough chip damage to take a conehead down in 1 magni shot

  • @LozerLudo
    @LozerLudo Рік тому +31

    i thought everyone used chard guard not gonna lie. I def think its amazing but i just prefer the other walls.

    • @KhajaSodhu
      @KhajaSodhu Рік тому

      Which wall do you think is the best. And I'm talking every defense plant

    • @LozerLudo
      @LozerLudo Рік тому +2

      @KhajaSodhu if we arent including seed packets or premiums then either infinut or primal wall nut.

    • @zerotimeleft
      @zerotimeleft 7 місяців тому

      @@LozerLudo primal nut is so good lol

  • @BlueyMushroom
    @BlueyMushroom Рік тому +14

    I just feel that the linear adventure kinda breaks the game, since any important improvement in the worlds wasn't made, and plant unlocking became a little confusing (principally due to locked and loaded levels showing future plants), and after the adventure ends, the only possible way to test your plants is penny's pursuit, since arena is just op plant spam...

  • @LozerLudo
    @LozerLudo Рік тому +76

    not sure if its too effective but i find using gaucodile + hurrikale together to be really fun

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname Рік тому

      While they don't synergise directly,
      They both allow you to have more control over your lanes,
      So it's not a bad combo,
      Since you can Hurricale one row,
      And then Guacodile another row.

    • @LozerLudo
      @LozerLudo Рік тому +7

      @@BramLastname i moreso meant using placing a guacodile and having him do his melee attack and timing a hurrikale so he hits the zombies multiple times.

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname Рік тому

      @@LozerLudo I mean,
      That seems fine to me,
      It's just very gimmicky

    • @zerotimeleft
      @zerotimeleft 7 місяців тому +2

      @@LozerLudo big brain

  • @grahhhh615
    @grahhhh615 Рік тому +10

    "Now lets get on to the first actually underrated plant.."
    (Lava Guava centered on the screen, staring dead at us.)
    "..Bowling Bulb."

    • @KhajaSodhu
      @KhajaSodhu Рік тому

      Yeah

    • @M1N1molo
      @M1N1molo 20 днів тому +1

      Really tho he is underrated. He’s a living barrier, creating a relatively moderate-lasting trap, and killing zombies very quickly. And yet nobody talks about him. I forget he’s a plant because I don’t buy plants and nobody talks about him.

  • @Have_some_plasma
    @Have_some_plasma Рік тому +17

    For me Guacodile is a FRONTER plant. Like it's so forward it goes in front of the Wall-nuts so that it still shoots but it does have the capability to rush down lane if things go a bit haywire. But hey you can still plant it directly on top of a zombie to deal direct damage.

  • @biscuitporkasmealchoice6741
    @biscuitporkasmealchoice6741 Рік тому +10

    I genuinely don't get how people underrate chard guard so badly. It's one of the strongest "walls" in the game, and it's one of the most versatile plants too. The only place it struggles at all is in Neon Mixtape. It has some amazing synergies like with primal potato or even infi-nut. There's honestly so few plants that don't benefit from chard in some way.
    I'd also like to add that banana launcher is a pretty nice bonus pick even when your team isn't built around it. You could start bringing it in late game to snipe zombies that really mess with you like octopus, wizard, etc.

  • @fabrizeantonio4425
    @fabrizeantonio4425 9 місяців тому +6

    I like how more knowledgeable PVZ1 and PVZ2 players use Guacodiles and Chompers as suicide bombers

    • @KhajaSodhu
      @KhajaSodhu 8 місяців тому +2

      " if you know how to use chomper , You know how to use guacodile
      -Stalks911

  • @xandyw1381
    @xandyw1381 Рік тому +17

    You're pretty much describing my reflourished strategy. Sad to think just how much synergy there is between the big wave beach plants, and just how hostile of an environment it is for them.

  • @SanaoYang
    @SanaoYang Рік тому +11

    What an amazing review of the Bigwave Beach plants!

  • @WoodpekazYT
    @WoodpekazYT 8 місяців тому +3

    fun fact: if you convert the amount of sun you get from one sun to make it 25, along with dividing every plants cost by 2 because you would still have to collect the same amount of sun (for example peashooter would be 50 as you would normally collect 2 sun to buy one with 50 sun meta), plants like winter melon and banana launcher which are really expensive, only cost 250, which is cheaper that a threepeater from pvz1

    • @thunderred5263
      @thunderred5263 8 місяців тому

      But the amount of zombies in this game is also a lot so a 50 sun meta fits just perfect also sun producers dont drop their first sun as soon as plants in the first game did

    • @KhajaSodhu
      @KhajaSodhu 8 місяців тому

      @@thunderred5263 However there's much more sun producers in pvz2 than in pvz1. I think there Are 12 in Pvz2 whilst there were only 3 in pvz1
      The best sun producer is obviously sun bean
      I'm kidding sun bean is one of the worst plant in this entire god damn game.

  • @larrymantic2635
    @larrymantic2635 Рік тому +12

    I mean, Chard is absolutely great as a knockback plant.

  • @fayescarlet
    @fayescarlet Рік тому +5

    As someone who mainly uses Winter Melons as my main attacking plant, with Gold Bloom and Imitated Gold Bloom acting as bursts of sun for planting early level... I'm surprised to hear it's underrated. I honestly feel like Winter Melon is my crutch sometimes, since I rarely go any level without it in levels where I pick my plants. The slowing effect and heavy damage is just too valuable.

  • @Chordus_Gaius
    @Chordus_Gaius Рік тому +4

    I mainly use the noob strategy of planting sunflowers in the back row and always won with a variety of plants. That's why it was weird for me to see Boiling Bulb, the Guacodile and the Coconnut cannon in the list 😂😂😂

  • @regiboi7709
    @regiboi7709 7 місяців тому +2

    I find Bonk Choy actually really underrated. With some good support, it can get really good DPS

  • @cjthesorceress7937
    @cjthesorceress7937 Рік тому +10

    You got me with the timestamps, very nice touch

  • @99999bomb
    @99999bomb Рік тому +81

    Why are the time stamps for the overrated plants video

  • @GizShi
    @GizShi Рік тому +5

    You can’t convince me that Creeps didn’t make this video just to talk about Bowling Bulb again

  • @Shatteredshard16
    @Shatteredshard16 Рік тому +10

    I disagree with the fact that Magnifying Grass can only be used as a main attacker. Yes, it can be used as a main attacker, but it also works as a support plant. If you only place 2 columns of sun producers, then Magni becomes a great support plant that can eliminate dangerous threats that your main attackers can’t handle. If you spam sun producers, then Magni becomes a main attacker.

    • @petelee2477
      @petelee2477 Рік тому +1

      Bananna launcher does the same thing though he's way more expensive.

    • @Naito115
      @Naito115 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@petelee2477Banana is instantly expensive, Magni just spends it over time

  • @michaelgum97
    @michaelgum97 Рік тому +4

    Honestly, I love Coconut Cannon. Both him and Winter Melon are my main damage dealers for Terror from Tomorrow and, if boosted, he can outright solo it.

  • @LanaIsUnderrated
    @LanaIsUnderrated Рік тому +5

    Guacodile is a frontliner
    He is basically a grimrose but with the adition of a weak attack

  • @Mac_Spector
    @Mac_Spector Рік тому +3

    ty for talking positively about Bowling Bulb, it doesn't deserve the hate it gets

  • @FlipaThirdy
    @FlipaThirdy Місяць тому +2

    A Underrated Plant That Is Not That Used And Is Not Even Popular Is Bloomerang, Most People Use Lightning Reed Over Bloomerang, But I Think Bloomerang Is Better, His Boomerangs Can Hit The Excavator Zombies, AND The Shield Robotic Zombie, This Guys Is Very Underrated And I Want Him To Have More Popularity, He's Like A Lightning Reed And Laser Bean Combined!
    I Don't Get Why No One Talks About Bloomerang And It's Really Good!

  • @Liquidity624
    @Liquidity624 Рік тому +4

    I like how all three playable Big Wave Beach plants are all here 😂

  • @FoldFable
    @FoldFable Рік тому +1

    You made guacodile one of my new favorite plants. Good job 👍

  • @azeria1
    @azeria1 Рік тому +11

    Ok what if a modded version of the game had it so bowling bulb need you to press on it to release the bulbs and you could wait for the high damage ones to come back obviously it would still need adjustment but I think that’s a good way of getting more people to like and use it or just give it to them earlier

    • @danielrosales221
      @danielrosales221 Рік тому +8

      Eclise makes it so that the bowling bulb can only see a couple tiles in front of him. That way, he can regen his bigger bulbs a lot easier and thus, more damage!

    • @aidancode
      @aidancode Рік тому +5

      Making bulb a manual plant kinda removes his whole downside... it'd become too strong and less complex.

    • @greenkitty1
      @greenkitty1 26 днів тому +1

      That would turn it into one of the most powerful plants, manual plants in general tend to be fairly good, and considering bowling balls gimmick it would turn it into *the* dps plant

  • @Fluffkitscripts
    @Fluffkitscripts Рік тому +2

    My ideal crew for the gargantuar-only level- kernel-pult, primal peashooter and chard guard. Together these plants form an impenetrable wall of pure solid cheese.

  • @DCT-tt8ib
    @DCT-tt8ib Рік тому +3

    Chard Guard is underrated? I always thought it was widely regarded as one of the better Wall Plants.

  • @getoofedonn9401
    @getoofedonn9401 Рік тому +2

    Puting Loonboon on the Bowling Bulb section is a genius choice.

  • @s.o.k.1393
    @s.o.k.1393 Рік тому +5

    I think coconut cannon is better than banana launcher because it's more spammable. It's easier to use so you won't spend all of your time clicking around, and also you can't miss a shot because it'll always explode on some zombie. Also, its vertical splash makes it better when spammed. Also, it isn't outclassed by winter melon, the two actually synergize. Take the winter melon/ coconut cannon combo into endless and you can beat literally any level if you can survive the early game.

  • @fashey-trustandttack
    @fashey-trustandttack 7 місяців тому +2

    Chardguard is ANYTHING BUT underrated

  • @stantonpayne6906
    @stantonpayne6906 Рік тому +3

    Bowling bulb is actual op in arena when you use its plant food especially in boosterama

  • @sporepics
    @sporepics 5 місяців тому +2

    I hub coco cannon out of complete preference, I love his design and he is freaking powerful anyways! That's a plus.

  • @ImQuietly
    @ImQuietly Рік тому +5

    I use coconut cannon for arena, until today, though im still in wood league. As long as it is supported by other plants while on cooldown, such as ones that do AOE damage. Its op in my opinion. In 2 days i gathered over 105 crowns which in thought was alot

  • @MoonyWoonyOnVRC
    @MoonyWoonyOnVRC 11 місяців тому +1

    Hearing the Hollow knight music in the background made me happy you got your self a new subscriber

  • @chargegarg8234
    @chargegarg8234 Рік тому +9

    The fact that people underrate all the bwb plants is interesting cos it shows how terrible that world was at this introducing the plants to the player

    • @louiscarl7629
      @louiscarl7629 Рік тому +1

      @_Just_a_random_dood_ Thyme is good but you can’t use it elsewhere for some reason.

    • @NOWNVATTU
      @NOWNVATTU Місяць тому

      Well now u can and that shi saves a lot of butts ​@@louiscarl7629

  • @WorstedCorgi90
    @WorstedCorgi90 Рік тому +1

    I like how he literally mentioned every non aquatic big wave beach plant

  • @PeacockLover127
    @PeacockLover127 Рік тому +4

    The game is linear now????
    Man there's so many changes that I just don't know about this weird game

  • @CryoflareTheWolf
    @CryoflareTheWolf 26 днів тому

    The thing i love with chard guard is its absurdly op combo with reinforce-mint and blover, insta kills literally EVERYTHING(except zombies who stay at the start of the lane like imp cannon and king)

  • @thealientree3821
    @thealientree3821 Рік тому +3

    I think the best way is to stockpile Guacodiles at the front as much as you reasonably can, and then not only are you getting the rush down damage, but also the chip damage that may help too.
    It is an Enforce-Mint Plant, which usually encourage you to plant them near the front.
    But you may plant them at the back if it is for an emergency, or you can stockpile em on the back to counter Prospectors or help with Pterodactyls with stuff like Bonk Choy or Celery Stalker at the side.
    Guac is just a good support plant all around.

    • @overlord3481
      @overlord3481 Рік тому

      Guacodile is trash in Jurassic marsh. Too expensive for what it does. In reflourished you're way better off putting a 225 sun primal pea than 2-3 guacodiles.

    • @KhajaSodhu
      @KhajaSodhu Рік тому

      @@overlord3481 I mean jurrasic marsh is pretty easy (In my case) And Jurrasic Marsh is before BWB anyway so

    • @overlord3481
      @overlord3481 Рік тому

      @@KhajaSodhu ok so how does that make guacodile viable?

    • @KhajaSodhu
      @KhajaSodhu Рік тому +1

      @@overlord3481 Dude your making it seem like jurrasic marsh is the only world. In jurrasic marsh its bad but in other worlds its good. Pretty sure many plants are bad in jurrasic Marsh

    • @overlord3481
      @overlord3481 Рік тому

      @@KhajaSodhu guacodile is bad in other worlds as well, unsurprisingly.

  • @daner293
    @daner293 Рік тому +7

    Idk but primal peashooter is kinda underrated too. It costs a bit more than the peashooter, but he deals more damage, stuns and knocks back any zombie. I used 2 primal peashooters and they stalled and even killed a gargantour. Absurd.

    • @trickster6054
      @trickster6054 9 місяців тому

      It costs nearly double

    • @greenkitty1
      @greenkitty1 26 днів тому

      ​@@trickster6054let's be real, 75 sun doesn't mean anything. You should have more than enough than that to spend. And that would be without gold bloom or like solar sage or solar tomato

  • @biscuitporkasmealchoice6741
    @biscuitporkasmealchoice6741 Рік тому +4

    "Every plant has a niche. Something it can do."
    *peanut sweating in worst of both worlds

  • @joaquimgamer2333
    @joaquimgamer2333 Рік тому +2

    Another underrated: goo peashoter, she is usually underestimated due to the fact that she does poorly on strength tests because she is not strong for gargantuars, but great against brickhead zombies.

    • @elliottcook1045
      @elliottcook1045 Рік тому +1

      goo pea is one of the best plants in the game i agree

    • @joaquimgamer2333
      @joaquimgamer2333 Рік тому

      @@elliottcook1045 UA-cam didn't send notification of your comment, she's better than turkeypult .

    • @elliottcook1045
      @elliottcook1045 Рік тому

      @@joaquimgamer2333 yea ik

  • @Kreepiscule
    @Kreepiscule Рік тому +4

    I don’t know if this is intended but I got all the world keys when I finished the tutorial, so I didn’t have any trouble beating the first 6 worlds since I would’ve already had and used the late game plants such as bowling bulb, banana launcher and guacodile. Playing arena apparently levels up your plants faster and gives mints to buy mints such as appease-mint making it easier to get stronger plants from harder worlds.

  • @vanadium1169
    @vanadium1169 9 місяців тому +1

    Bowling bulb is the best way to deal with Penny's Pursuit Zombosses if you don't have Pokra
    A line of them, sun producers in front and tile turnips and you're set

  • @fre4konaleash213
    @fre4konaleash213 Рік тому +5

    I love your unique video ideas creep, keep it up!

  • @devaraanimation
    @devaraanimation Рік тому +1

    19:22 only old player got chance since old world order was based by date of realease not difficulty so Big Wave Beach plants can be used in Frostbite Cave, Neon Mixtape Tour, Lost City, Jurassic Marsh. But not today

    • @ZombieMiraculer74
      @ZombieMiraculer74 Рік тому

      Yes, and Reflourished, one of the PVZ2 mods, actually arranged the worlds in chronological order. You can use the ability of Banana Launcher and other plants in Frostbite Caves, Lost City, Neon Mixtapes, and Jurassic Marsh.

  • @hasamijavi9322
    @hasamijavi9322 Рік тому +3

    Spore Shroom is underrated in my opinion, its my favorite plant in the game
    My least favorite plants in the game are Pokra and ButterHead Lettuce i find it very boring to play with them

  • @peakedcomedy
    @peakedcomedy Рік тому +1

    One of my favorite underrated plants is actually Spikerock. It breaks half of the worlds. Sadge it didn’t make the list

  • @babyl
    @babyl Рік тому +4

    hollow knight soundtrack

  • @bdasher8556
    @bdasher8556 Рік тому +1

    I'm surprised you placed Chard Guard on this list since I thought people unanimously understood it was a contender for the best plant in the game. Either way, good video. Still don't think Bowling Bulb is that underrated given just how nieche it is though.
    Also, absolutely love Banana Launcher. It flips the progression of a level on its head making it pretty difficult to control early on but already solved when you get enough Launchers.

  • @brodietabernacki2026
    @brodietabernacki2026 Рік тому +9

    If you rewatch Zackscotts series about pvz2 you’ll see him use winter melon any moment he can.

  • @braveheroanimator4166
    @braveheroanimator4166 10 місяців тому +2

    From this video, I understand that every plant has its pros and cons, it's all about how you can take advantage of those pros while dealing with those cons.

    • @KhajaSodhu
      @KhajaSodhu 8 місяців тому

      I wanna drop a hot take real quick. A very VERY hot take I am sure you will probably not agree with but it's my opinion
      Never gonna give you up

    • @braveheroanimator4166
      @braveheroanimator4166 8 місяців тому

      @@KhajaSodhu NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN

    • @KhajaSodhu
      @KhajaSodhu 8 місяців тому

      @@braveheroanimator4166 NEVER GONNA RUN AROUND AND

    • @braveheroanimator4166
      @braveheroanimator4166 8 місяців тому

      @@KhajaSodhu AND HURT YOU....
      (Wait was that the right lyrics?)

    • @KhajaSodhu
      @KhajaSodhu 8 місяців тому

      @@braveheroanimator4166 it's
      AND DESSERT YOU

  • @louiscarl7629
    @louiscarl7629 Рік тому +4

    Thing is about bulb, pretty much every other crowd controller can do the same thing more consistently. I mean, if I’m gonna have to spam instants to use something, I wonder if that thing is doing any work. Stuff like Dusk Lobber has better performance than bulb even on its best day. You have to work for something that in the end is barely above average as a crowd controller, if at all. Its synergy with walls is wacky, and the fact that clumps are a weakness is annoying. Even the plant food struggles to do what you want it to. Maybe it’s not complete garbage, but there’s no reason to ever use it even if you aren’t going tryhard. Also the bastard looks like a diglet but still gets pulled by fisherman, what gives?

    • @mailcs06
      @mailcs06 Рік тому

      An orange bulb can literally one shot a basic and two hit a conehead, I’d say that’s pretty far above average

    • @ThisIsntAYoutuber
      @ThisIsntAYoutuber Рік тому

      Bowling Bulb is currently a meta plant in Arena and many Penny’s Pursuit boss fights that don’t involve Jesters. Tile Turnip + Bulb means that its biggest weakness is null and void. Also, level 7 BB respawns the orange bulb first.

  • @User-zh8rp
    @User-zh8rp Рік тому +2

    11:52 Chard guard? More like chad guard

  • @allah_before_everything
    @allah_before_everything Рік тому +6

    Sadly this doesn't include some premiums, really wanted to see ECurrant in the list

    • @lebollsong
      @lebollsong Рік тому +3

      Unfortunately he included it as an OVERRATED plant in his other video...
      Wait nvm that was EBlueberry

    • @Creeps20
      @Creeps20  Рік тому +13

      e.currant is so forgettable i genuinelly forgot about it until you brought it up

    • @GNVS300
      @GNVS300 Рік тому +5

      E Currant was underrated before the big nerf, now... he sucks. Easily the worst gemium plant

    • @blackdashh433
      @blackdashh433 Рік тому +1

      ​@@GNVS300 what nerf? Just asking

    • @allah_before_everything
      @allah_before_everything Рік тому

      @@GNVS300 nerf??????

  • @alfathrafathra4608
    @alfathrafathra4608 3 дні тому

    Ngl idk how many times chard guard has saved me from zombie about to tramp over my flowers, and knowing theres more into that plant...

  • @Rematch1234
    @Rematch1234 Рік тому +2

    I use Chard Gard and Banana launcher a LOT!

  • @Frrixy
    @Frrixy Рік тому +1

    When the green text in the astropop font appears on screen, you know it's fucking over

  • @deinbow9404
    @deinbow9404 Рік тому +3

    I tried clicking the sun in the video 💀

  • @penguinimptheinsane774
    @penguinimptheinsane774 Рік тому

    There is a saying I've come up with recently (just last September to be exact), that seems quite relevant to your discussion here:
    All my homies love and respect Coconut Cannon

  • @ramzylutfi6881
    @ramzylutfi6881 Рік тому +4

    I think stunion is underrated

  • @JustnamedAce
    @JustnamedAce Рік тому +1

    Chard Gourd is a default in my setup whenever there are hard zombies nor flying zombies which most wallnut types suck at protecting or stall.

  • @superspun9944
    @superspun9944 Рік тому +6

    It sucks that red stinger didn’t make it here, red stinger is only underrated because of how overrated repeater is, imo I think red stinger is slightly better then repeater… but 90% of people just ignore him and go to repeater instead, sure vanilla red stinger doesn’t gain anything from torchwood but red stinger is cheaper, does more damage and can be used as a wall if necessary. The argument everyone uses is “he’s only better then repeater in lane 1-3” which is true, however you could just put the sun producers in lane 4+
    Rant over, you did make some good picks (also thank you for including chard guard)

    • @GNVS300
      @GNVS300 Рік тому +6

      Hard agree. Red Stinger might just be the most underrated plant in the game, before the Torchwood buff he was basically an outright upgrade over Repeater, and I've found him especially useful in Reflourished for the early game.

    • @S2PrototypeRemix
      @S2PrototypeRemix Рік тому +3

      Maybe you mistaked "underrated" and "overrated" because i see a lot of times that someone puts red stinger higher than threepeater, torchwood, rotobaga, starfruit, dandelion and peapod. Red stinger is: just a repeater, with -50 sun cost, +25% shot cooldown and without ability to beign powered by torchwood. For me this plant is a bit better than - repeater, but i just cannot understand. Why in tier list everyone puts red stinger at the same rank as: grapeshot and parsnip

    • @superspun9944
      @superspun9944 Рік тому

      @@S2PrototypeRemix what tier lists are you looking at? The amount of times I’ve seen red stinger in d tier and repeater in A-B tier is ridiculous

    • @GNVS300
      @GNVS300 Рік тому +1

      @@S2PrototypeRemix Threepeater? Pfft Red Stringer blows him out of the water

    • @S2PrototypeRemix
      @S2PrototypeRemix Рік тому

      @@GNVS300 do you want tell that: repeater better than threepeater? This weird im think. Im used threepeater alot, this plant is really cool. Also: its plantfood can almost kill gargantuar

  • @Juicebox1234
    @Juicebox1234 Рік тому +1

    On this topic, jack-o'-lantern is a criminally underrated plant, his damage output is absolutely insane

    • @KhajaSodhu
      @KhajaSodhu Рік тому +1

      But takes the same time to regenerate as an E berry

    • @duongnguyen-mb3rp
      @duongnguyen-mb3rp 8 місяців тому

      His ass is premium my man 😭
      No one is gonna be able to use him unless they pay for it

  • @markbruk2974
    @markbruk2974 Рік тому +4

    I actually agree that guacodile can be insane if you're using it correctly

  • @digala281-su1sj
    @digala281-su1sj Рік тому +1

    I think tall-nut is also underrated because I saw people calling it bad, but when I use it it stalls zombies for a pretty long time and almost never gets defeated.
    I would also consider spikerock as one of the underrated plants but honestly I don't know how well rated the plant is, many zombies ignore it and does pretty good damage if the zombies are above it and next to a defensive plant

  • @melvint-p9500
    @melvint-p9500 Рік тому +4

    It's worth pointing out that Mag Grass and Banana are drastically stronger at level 2.

    • @melvint-p9500
      @melvint-p9500 Рік тому

      They hit damage ranges that they barely missed at level 1, letting Mag 1-shot Coneheads and Banana kill Bucketheads.

    • @ZombieMiraculer74
      @ZombieMiraculer74 9 місяців тому

      ​@@melvint-p9500Banana also costs 475 in lvl 2

    • @melvint-p9500
      @melvint-p9500 9 місяців тому

      @@ZombieMiraculer74 that’s true, but it’s not really important compared to the rest

  • @ria5854
    @ria5854 Рік тому

    Banana launcher made me feel like its just a coconut cannon that has full range of all rows, i also liked the sound like “Banana!” It made. It was the best plant to beat with 1 slot.

  • @phorchybug3286
    @phorchybug3286 Рік тому +2

    My favorite under rated PVZ2 plant is puff Shroom.
    Yeah, the PVZ2 version kills itself after a while but I think it's a lot more fun than the more over rated insta kill plants and it's a nice way to hold the line and focus on sun production.

    • @Frrixy
      @Frrixy Рік тому +3

      Are you sure people underrate puff? I don't think there's people out there that say puff is bad or anything

    • @phorchybug3286
      @phorchybug3286 Рік тому

      ​@@Frrixy Kinda feels like it.

    • @Dexuz
      @Dexuz Рік тому

      Nobody says Puff Shroom is underrated, it's a busted plant, not as strong as its PvZ1 self, but still good, basically removing any early-game threat, totally worth the seed slot.

  • @yk54htangngocquyduong28
    @yk54htangngocquyduong28 Рік тому

    8:34 coconut plant hits hard but that suprise green path theme hits even harder

  • @3ggified
    @3ggified Рік тому +11

    1 BILLION COIN???!!??!

  • @ZombieMiraculer74
    @ZombieMiraculer74 Рік тому +1

    All of these plants are my favorite plants to use on levels, even though I haven't went to arena mode yet. Winter Melon, Coconut Cannon, and Banana Launcher are plants that are just completely ignored just because they are more expensive when planted when they have actual more power than most plants. Winter Melon does both chilling and heavy damage like in the original game which is completely powerful when used in endless survival mode, Coconut Cannon and Banana Launcher packs the massive damages to their targets, even in groups.
    For Bowling Bulb, they are very helpful to me in spending sun limit and last stand levels in adventure mode. Their Plant Food is a bonus in killing groups of zombies easily.
    Guacodile is also a fun to use plant. I actually find this plant amazing especially when I played Neon Mixtape Tour and Frostbite Caves levels since their rushing attack can cause bigger damage to zombies ahead of them.
    Chard Guard is my absolute favorite defensive plant. Their knockback attacks can also stall zombies over time and have higher health than normal plants when they have no more leaves to push back. They are best when stalling weaker health zombies like chickens, weasels, and even weaker imps.

  • @loudwhispre9406
    @loudwhispre9406 Рік тому +4

    Bowling Bulb is trash because your "strategy" of using it with a bunch of instant plants isn't a Bowling Bulb strategy. It's an instant spam strategy that happens to have Bowling Bulb in it. Instant plants are super broken, so spamming a bunch of them to beat a level is an OP strategy that's always going to work. Replace Bowling Bulb with any other plant (not Lightning Reed, that thing sucks) as your main attacker and that plant will outshine BB in your instant spam strategy.
    Level 1 Bowling Bulb is just so genuinely awful once it uses up all of it's bulbs and gets stuck recharging the lowest damage bulb to deal damage. For reference, a 100 sun Peashooter shoots 20 damage every 1.35 to 1.5 seconds. For 200 sun, BB fires a bulb every 2 to 2.25 seconds. The aquamarine bulb does 40 damage, the blue does 120, and the orange does a whopping 180 damage. But then, it takes 4 seconds to regenerate a new bulb. 4 seconds to regain aquamarine, 4 more seconds to regain blue, and 4 seconds again to regain orange.
    It does it's best work when waves are spaced 12 seconds apart, so it can recover it's best bulbs. Also, the top and bottom lanes get the worst of the DPS since only half as many bulbs can bounce into top or bottom lane. BB also does not do well against zombies bunched up in a single lane unless spammed (where have I heard THAT before?). They do their best damage in zigzag patterns, so when zombies appear in checkerboard formation. BB is literally a Repeater with better initial damage for the first 6 to 7 seconds, then after that, it's literally just a Repeater with a much, much, MUCH worse fire rate, since the bulb takes 4 seconds to recover, and 2 to 2.25 seconds to launch. That means BB fires every 6 to 6.25 seconds, to do 40 damage, while Repeater fires every 1.35 to 1.5 seconds to do 2 x 20 damage. In Adventure mode, there's just no reason to use BB over any other attacker that costs 200 sun, except Pepper-Pult because fuck that long ass recharge.

    • @KhajaSodhu
      @KhajaSodhu Рік тому +1

      Man wrote an essay on Bowling bulb is trash

  • @dustieboi7442
    @dustieboi7442 Рік тому +1

    "All plants are good" background has peanut

  • @lebollsong
    @lebollsong Рік тому +4

    I have to disagree with Bowling
    Having to rely on certain plants is pretty bad imo. And there are just better plants to utilise for that job, like Coconut Cannon, Banana Launcher or heck, even Citron. Usually what will happen is that Bowling Bulb will get overwhelmed too much, and you won't be able to use the high EPS well, whereas you can easily make the most from other plants.

    • @lebollsong
      @lebollsong Рік тому

      So in conclusion: Bowling Bulb for a supposed support plant is not goof if it relies on OTHER support plants, whereas others like Banana or Coco can do well on their own and be utilised more effectively.

    • @honkhonk9089
      @honkhonk9089 Рік тому

      In arena is where bowling bulb truly shines. In conjunction with chard guard and some other plants, it can clear the board

    • @lebollsong
      @lebollsong Рік тому

      @@honkhonk9089 arena is completely different though. Yes, Bowling Bulb is good there but how it works is different from regular pvz2 levels. Here I'm talking about its uses in those regular levels, and it's not that good to say the least

  • @daytoaster7886
    @daytoaster7886 Рік тому +2

    Gotta love that greenpath music

  • @CopperCommander
    @CopperCommander Рік тому +3

    in my opinion cabbage pult is underated its litteraly peashooter but better 😍

    • @Xanthopathy
      @Xanthopathy Рік тому

      @A Baseball Bat Directly To The Cranium, Frankly… Thanks captain obvious

    • @melvint-p9500
      @melvint-p9500 Рік тому

      It gets way more hate than it deserves but it’s still pretty worthless.

    • @Uragan00829
      @Uragan00829 Рік тому +2

      The Cabbage Pult may look like it is better than Peashotter, but statisticaly it's worse. But hey, atleast it's better than Pepper Pult!

    • @larrymantic2635
      @larrymantic2635 Рік тому

      It’s a Peashooter, but for angles

    • @unconfirmed9
      @unconfirmed9 Рік тому +1

      Lobbed shots miss fast zombies and no torchwood/peavine synergy.

  • @joyfulstone
    @joyfulstone Рік тому +1

    that's a lot of powerups in those clips...

  • @michaelofparadise
    @michaelofparadise Рік тому +3

    0:55 does anyone know what he said

  • @TZ_RL
    @TZ_RL Рік тому +1

    chard guards one of my favorite plants in the game it’s so good