A masterclass to Sun Producers (in PVZ2)

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  • Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
  • Just some tips on how to use Sun Producers properly. More than some, its a fairly long video, but it should help you out, either way.
    Discord: / discord
    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Intro
    0:50 - Overall Sun Production
    7:11- Objectives and Worlds
    10:17 - Secondary Sun Producers
    15:00 - Modded PVZ2
    Footage is from:
    Plants VS Zombies 2 (and it's mods)
    Mods used (in order of appearance):
    Eclise Alpha
    Eclise Beta Lunatic
    Shallow
    AltverZ
    Chronos
    Music used (in order of appearance):
    Dave's Theme from PVZ2 (Unnamed)
    Cerebrawl from PVZ1
    Faint Glow from DELTARUNE
    Ancient Egypt Demonstration Minigame from PVZ2
    A Home For Flowers (Tulip) from OMORI
    Neon Mixtape Tour Choose Your Seeds from PVZ2
    Outro is an original track.
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  • @Creeps20
    @Creeps20  Рік тому +630

    Heyo! Wanted to experiment with this video a lil' bit, hence the delay. Wanted to try a new style of video for me, let me know how it went! Experimenting is the spice of life or somethin' so it makes total sense. Probably.
    Also feel free to leave out your own tips if ye want. I'm not gonna stop ya. Free algorithm. Free algorithm is cool.

    • @coolava2952
      @coolava2952 Рік тому +5

      First reply this is new anyways just wanted to say you make such great vids keep up the great work.

    • @REPLA_ACE
      @REPLA_ACE Рік тому +4

      I love your PvZ 2 videos. I hope you make essays about individual plants:
      *"Why [...] Sucks!!"*
      or
      *"Why [...] is UNDERRATED!!"*
      or
      *"Why [...] is the Best Plant !"*
      etc.

    • @texasyellow3563
      @texasyellow3563 Рік тому +5

      A suggestion I had was that you could make a video breaking down every type of plant ( electric, Meele, poison…ect)

    • @antoniotrivelloni8191
      @antoniotrivelloni8191 Рік тому +2

      Love this.

    • @crispinotechgaming
      @crispinotechgaming Рік тому +2

      nice vid pal

  • @cakecatastrophe5624
    @cakecatastrophe5624 Рік тому +1061

    “Do not go for symmetry”
    *I feel a disturbance in the force*

    • @AoH_player
      @AoH_player 10 місяців тому +52

      *A big disturbance.....*

    • @A.Weirdo.I.Guess000
      @A.Weirdo.I.Guess000 9 місяців тому +26

      @@AoH_player A GREATLY BIG DISTURBANCE IN THE FORCE

    • @LeleiTheTigress
      @LeleiTheTigress 5 місяців тому +45

      My itty bitty autistic brain cannot handle asymmetry

    • @realracoon
      @realracoon 5 місяців тому +6

      ​@@LeleiTheTigressfr

    • @mewmew8932
      @mewmew8932 4 місяці тому +19

      my normal brain can't handle asymmetry, i think creeps is an alien@@LeleiTheTigress

  • @FelipeGames-py4gr
    @FelipeGames-py4gr Рік тому +415

    "At all costs, do NOT go for symmetry"
    Didn't knew creeps was into commiting crimes

    • @Josedot366
      @Josedot366 21 день тому

      341 and 0 responses let me fix that

  • @QuckHead
    @QuckHead 11 місяців тому +324

    Symmetry comes first. Sorry, but my autism won't waver.

    • @Zora.pk76
      @Zora.pk76 2 місяці тому +18

      Wait I don't have autism and I care about symmetry well it's a mission I try to accomplish it just looks very pleasing but for you it's like a goal

    • @jikkybytt
      @jikkybytt Місяць тому +21

      ​@@Zora.pk76autism is different from person to person, but we like patterns, yes

    • @Zora.pk76
      @Zora.pk76 Місяць тому +3

      @@jikkybytt I mean I know that a little

    • @spirittail4958
      @spirittail4958 Місяць тому +13

      Regardless of the autism symmetry is just the heart of pvz I get what he's talking about but it's way to much of a change to place your plants all over the place unsymetrically it just looks wrong and feels wrong lol

    • @TatsugiriTheFeesh
      @TatsugiriTheFeesh 29 днів тому +1

      saame

  • @puppetfan4634
    @puppetfan4634 Рік тому +124

    Me : tell me the truth, I'm ready to hear it
    Creeps : symmetry is rarely a sign of a good defense
    Me : *cries*

  • @NeoBing
    @NeoBing Рік тому +51

    Are you saying that symmetry is less important than winning? This is simply false, you have basically lost if you mess up your symmetry. Having your plants be symmetrical is a bigger factor in skill than ‘playing the game well’!

    • @blartversenwaldiii
      @blartversenwaldiii Рік тому +4

      for maximum win rate your defense should be left/right symmetrical as well as top/bottom

  • @macks3341
    @macks3341 Рік тому +54

    8:08 holy shit the streak of butters with that kernel pult

  • @imwithmilk8162
    @imwithmilk8162 Рік тому +257

    This explains how to use sun producers pretty well, I also learned that gold tiles produce sun faster than sunflowers thanks to this

  • @cowman9728
    @cowman9728 Рік тому +627

    I would love to see a video on how completely BUSTED some of the mint plants are in gameplay (bombardmint clearing out the field or spearmint instantly placing 1000's of suns worth of plants for free, etc)

    • @Jason-ie1ih
      @Jason-ie1ih Рік тому +63

      Agreed, mints are super BUSTED. I have 2 and they are both really really strong.
      Flame mint puts juarassic marsh on easy mode.
      Spear mint can either be an overpowered sun producer even stronger than gold bloom or just a really overpowered attacking plant that shuts down the backpack imp dudes.

    • @aldiirsanmajid4235
      @aldiirsanmajid4235 Рік тому +1

      Because of that I'm trying to find a way to nerf that and I finally can change that. I can change the spikerocks to level 1, and it actually can be replaced with other plants instead of spikerocks. Try it out, it's fun to customize the game to make it balanced for us.

    • @MrMoron-qn5rx
      @MrMoron-qn5rx Рік тому +15

      @@Jason-ie1ih it depends on the level of the rock tho. It'll still create a lot of sun tho.
      Sun mint is a good alternative to gold bloom if you're lazy, plus if you have a few sun producers they make a lot of extra sun.
      Enchant mint allows f2p's to get toadstools randomly. Not a lot, not that powerful, but still useful sometimes.
      Explode mint is a great screen cleaner, plus it makes certain high level explode plants extremely powerful, should the mint not do it.
      Reinforce mint is decently good, plantfooding all wall plants and knocking enemies back. If in a world without instakilling zombies reinforce mint can shut down everything.

    • @Rocket_Gunner7414
      @Rocket_Gunner7414 Рік тому +2

      @@Jason-ie1ih not just that! when the mint is on the field 1 column of these spikerocks boosted can take out bucketheads easilly!

    • @thegamingchef5863
      @thegamingchef5863 6 місяців тому +1

      Nah getting over 1000 sun in less than 15 seconds with enlighten-mint is perfectly balanced

  • @GabrahmRotom
    @GabrahmRotom Рік тому +40

    Symmetry is a part of a pvz players brain

  • @IAARPOTI
    @IAARPOTI Рік тому +131

    Creeps will love singer sunflower because it is so fun to use. It costs the same as twin sunflower and gives the same amount too but it can buff plant's attack and stun zombies if you use plant food to her.

  • @julispears4949
    @julispears4949 Рік тому +855

    GNVS: never plants enough sun producers, forcing himself to use weak plants or build his defense slowly; doesn't shovel plants
    Wolfyplayz: plants many sun producers but never brings expensive plants or doesn't plant enough weaker ones; makes redundant choices like bringing Moonflower, Primal Sunflower and Imitated Goldbloom into the same level; doesn't shovel plants
    Forever Neena: still freaking out over Pharaoh and Turquoise Skull like they're Hair Metal Gargs

    • @paul_particularlyunhappynut
      @paul_particularlyunhappynut Рік тому +182

      pvz2 youtuber slander

    • @thealientree3821
      @thealientree3821 Рік тому +25

      But does Neena shovel plants?

    • @julispears4949
      @julispears4949 Рік тому +91

      @@thealientree3821 honestly I don't know, I don't watch her stuff really, but I'm sure she doesn't need to because she can't build a defense after they took all the sun

    • @tomasbeltran04050
      @tomasbeltran04050 Рік тому +23

      i've always wondered if the turquoise skull was supposed you be a threat (in vanilla at least)

    • @MikhailAurellio
      @MikhailAurellio Рік тому +5

      This comment is really true xd

  • @leafytheleaf9452
    @leafytheleaf9452 Рік тому +197

    shine vine also has a unique interaction with magnifyne grass, where it will make it occassionally fire a beam without using sun! however the cost of this is shine vine's sun production will be removed.
    its just sort of an extra detail that you didnt mention nor shown footage of, and i felt the need to mention it because it is another reason to try it out.

    • @BramLastname
      @BramLastname Рік тому +26

      That's why there's plant specific videos,
      This isn't a main feature of the plant,
      But rather an interesting option when estimating a plant's potential for a particular level.

    • @shalvei_
      @shalvei_ Рік тому +8

      @@BramLastname nice haiku

  • @mcplayz1490
    @mcplayz1490 Рік тому +424

    Spearmint should be a secondary sun producer
    Change my mind

  • @sspaghet4080
    @sspaghet4080 Рік тому +49

    i cannot stress enough how much i love ur content, thank you!!

  • @andreiacoelho1575
    @andreiacoelho1575 Рік тому +560

    I think walls are very confusing...
    Maybe you could give a masterclass about that

    • @zandbergx9747
      @zandbergx9747 Рік тому +186

      Place nut. Zomb eat nut. Zomb not move. Nut then die. Zomb now move.
      Wot u not get?

    • @TheRenegade...
      @TheRenegade... Рік тому +89

      @@zandbergx9747 Put spikeweed in front, put melee plant behind

    • @radec4223
      @radec4223 Рік тому +29

      What if nut kill zombie before zombie die?

    • @hdfsyhptr7073
      @hdfsyhptr7073 Рік тому +1

      ​@@radec4223 Place nut. Zomb eat nut. Zomb not move. Nut die zomb. Zomb then die. Nut still life.
      More zomb eat nut. Zomb not move. Nut explode. Nut then die. Zomb then die.

    • @fatherplatypus2316
      @fatherplatypus2316 Рік тому +112

      @@radec4223 then it's nut their lucky day

  • @adweck
    @adweck Рік тому +610

    I will ask GNVS how much sunflowers should I plant

    • @oldacc264
      @oldacc264 Рік тому +132

      2, more will just take up your much needed space

    • @yoyos_life_experience
      @yoyos_life_experience Рік тому +14

      True…

    • @MikhailAurellio
      @MikhailAurellio Рік тому +41

      @@oldacc264 This is why shovel exist lol

    • @angry-plant
      @angry-plant Рік тому +108

      GNVS be like:
      Wait you use sunproducers? Well you shouldn't.

    • @MikhailAurellio
      @MikhailAurellio Рік тому +60

      @@angry-plant "Yeah you should just use -3 sun producer tho" 🗿 lol

  • @magicaltactician6176
    @magicaltactician6176 Рік тому +56

    I think a video on deck composition would be neat. Which plants synergize well with each other and which do not?

  • @RandomGoob
    @RandomGoob Рік тому +6

    "Always use sun producers"
    Last stands: **laughs**

  • @Soulessblur
    @Soulessblur Рік тому +19

    Loved the video! Actually really cool, there's not a lot of detail out there breaking down all of the producers down like that. I learned more than I thought I would. Would love more videos like his!
    Couple ideas just off the top of my head:
    1.A masterclass in Instant Plants
    2.A masterclass in stalling zombies
    3.A masterclass in manual plants (like banana and coconut)
    4.A masterclass in wall plants
    5.A masterclass in Plant Food

    • @chadpowell1832
      @chadpowell1832 Рік тому +1

      Would really like the master class to manuals

  • @louiscarl7629
    @louiscarl7629 Рік тому +36

    I’ve tried using moonflower and sun shroom for the lols. It’s kinda impractical to lose a seed slot sometimes, but it gives you obscene sun production early and late for absurdly cheap.

  • @noobishnubreal
    @noobishnubreal Рік тому +13

    As a Veteran PvZ 2 players who played countless of mods (altverz, eclise, chronoscapade, reflourished (although reflourished is technically just better vanilla as most plants did not got changed) this video really is very in depth of explaining the general mechanic of sun producer. This really would help the casual PvZ 2 community by a whole especially for those who want to push themselves to try harder challenges with stock level plants. Hope this would turn into a series where Creeps dives into more classes such as attackers, instas, defenders, supporters and more!

    • @howtowindows8477
      @howtowindows8477 Рік тому +2

      since when pvz became a whole science, i've been playing it for 9 years and i never needed "master classes" to be able to deal with everything in the game, just cuz i love it. What kind of noob do you have to be to not know how to use the different plants.

    • @noobishnubreal
      @noobishnubreal Рік тому +6

      @@howtowindows8477 well... You can play however you want to. Casual or hardcore. Also, There's people who don't know how to use different plants and rather to stick in 1 area and not trying out new things.

    • @mariustan9275
      @mariustan9275 3 місяці тому +1

      @@howtowindows8477 Some people are just not that experienced or has thought to use a plant before. Just because they aren't as experienced as you doesn't mean they're a noob.

  • @me-pk2kb
    @me-pk2kb Рік тому +18

    Note: Sun-shroom + Enlightenmint not only grows the sun shrooms instantly, it produces more sun (at least 1100 for 2 columns).

  • @urkokrause7472
    @urkokrause7472 Рік тому +27

    It would be cool to see a video comparing the catapult kind of plant with the shooter! Which wins as a whole, the best plant of each one, etc

    • @howtowindows8477
      @howtowindows8477 Рік тому

      isn't obvious that catapults are better, cuz they can attack any zombie at any line at any time.

    • @dracomalfoy6886
      @dracomalfoy6886 11 місяців тому

      Fumeshroom wins

    • @kone7549
      @kone7549 8 місяців тому

      ⁠@@howtowindows8477straight shooter projectiles hit the zombies faster than catapults in all but the last two columns if placed in the back. They don’t miss faster zombies such as chickens like catapults have a bad habit of doing (of course, using straight shooters against chickens is still a bad idea). Sometimes catapults ignoring obstacles is detrimental, such as when octopi are on the field.
      In practice though, it really just comes down to the plants themselves

  • @REPLA_ACE
    @REPLA_ACE Рік тому +15

    I really love your PvZ 2 videos. I hope you make more essays about individual plants:
    *"Why [...] Sucks!!"*
    or
    *"Why [...] is UNDERRATED!!"*
    or
    *"Why [...] is the Best Plant !"*
    or
    *"Why [...] is fundamentally flawed !"*
    etc.
    etc.

  • @DraidaDrai
    @DraidaDrai Рік тому +1

    This was a super rad video!!! Thank you so much for this video; and I think this was a lot of fun to watch!!! I literally have never played this game (only PVZ 1) and I’m sitting here going “God this is FASCINATING”

  • @knowerofnothing3992
    @knowerofnothing3992 Рік тому +7

    I would love to see a "Masterclass on seed slot somposition" video! I struggle to slow down the game in the beginning, and then struggle to deal enough damage at the end, likely due to plant comp, when to use stallers, or place attackers. All of those issues come down to seed comp / utilizing your seed comp right, so I think a video on it would be great. I think the topic is specific and important enough that it will catch attention on yt, and general enough to offer something for everyone watching it. Thanks!

  • @also_a_puny
    @also_a_puny Рік тому +2

    I enjoyed it a lot! I like hearing about strategy and stuff like that, so I hope this becomes a series :3
    I'd personally be intrested in an episode about instas, where and when to use them. Specifically in the early game for me, as I have trouble knowing when to switch from only instas for sun buildup to permanent attackers

  • @Healion123
    @Healion123 Рік тому +14

    with my experience, you need to treat Moonflower a good bit differently from other sun producers
    mainly due to the fact that she has a much slower cooldown _and_ the fact that she powers other Shadow plants. due to her being the only way to constantly power Shadow plants, you'll wanna make sure she's actually protected. alongside that tho, you also don't need to spam her down most of the time. as long as you get down like 5 (6 if you're not using other Shadow plants) & make sure they're all fully powered, you'll have huge amounts of excess sun in no time

    • @chrisdawson1776
      @chrisdawson1776 2 місяці тому

      Source?

    • @Healion123
      @Healion123 2 місяці тому

      @@chrisdawson1776 my own experience. I said that at the start of my comment

    • @chrisdawson1776
      @chrisdawson1776 2 місяці тому

      @@Healion123 Keep crying

    • @Healion123
      @Healion123 2 місяці тому

      @@chrisdawson1776 ok

  • @alexspeegle2758
    @alexspeegle2758 Рік тому +2

    i really enjoyed this video! I would really enjoy more helpful videos like this, but definitely keep your normal style as well!

  • @benjaminhuang9804
    @benjaminhuang9804 Рік тому +1

    Please more of this type of video. I love this style!

  • @JustGoldy77
    @JustGoldy77 Рік тому +52

    Honestly I’d really like to see your take on bowling bulb, most people consider it bad but I can see it’s amazing against crowds I’d like to hear an opinion that hasn’t been said.

    • @blocks4857
      @blocks4857 Рік тому +17

      That's the problem. It's only good against crowds and most levels in vanilla tend to be very short

    • @kimbaldun
      @kimbaldun Рік тому +8

      It's effective only with Plant Food

    • @spectralfr
      @spectralfr Рік тому +3

      its literally the worst offensive plant in the game

  • @Notimportant479
    @Notimportant479 Рік тому +2

    I don’t know what it is, But my day just, feels so much better when you upload, So, Thank you.

  • @razvansialtele2official
    @razvansialtele2official Рік тому +3

    "A Masterclass in Stalling Plants" sounds like an interesting Idea for a video considering that there are plenty of Stallers, and some stallers are better then others stallers.

  • @blazingblaze250
    @blazingblaze250 Рік тому +9

    I'll just treat them how rich people treat poor people: exploit them for profit and then sacrifice them immediately after.

  • @KaiaKaito
    @KaiaKaito Рік тому +1

    I'm a huge fan and user of Shadow plants. Getting more knowledge would be nice.
    Overall nice content and I can't wait to see the next one x3

  • @Caragoner
    @Caragoner Рік тому +2

    Enjoyed this breakdown of plant classes, id like to see some on other classes like instas, catapults, shooters, chompers, walls, ect

  • @user-vf1zw3wn3m
    @user-vf1zw3wn3m Рік тому +6

    An addition to solar sadge is that when it was released ea forgot to remove it from last stand levels so you could spam 0 cost sun producers in last stand. It has since been patched

  • @samuellillge9319
    @samuellillge9319 Рік тому +2

    You should totally try doing more videos like this for all of the different subtypes of plants, like attackers and instants.

  • @tomasbeltran04050
    @tomasbeltran04050 Рік тому

    Loved the video. I suppose a video along the same lines but on instants could be great

  • @toddmr1446
    @toddmr1446 Рік тому

    This was a cool video! Another interesting video idea could be talking about PvZ 2 zombies in vanilla and how effective they are (that would actually be really cool)

  • @firered33
    @firered33 6 місяців тому +1

    I was intimidated by PvZ2 with how different it was from the original game. But thanks to you and your videos, I've finally gotten the courage to try it out and so far its been pretty fun!

  • @stone5950
    @stone5950 Рік тому

    I loved this video! Plant food might be an interesting topic!

  • @llamason7044
    @llamason7044 Рік тому +5

    I actually like putting sunflowers in the very back row in Jurassic Marsh for pterodactyls

  • @gab_gabriel7091
    @gab_gabriel7091 Рік тому

    this is genuinely a really cool video and could really be helpful for a lot of people in learning how to play pvz2 and it's mods better and faster instead of having to figure that out themselves the hard way (eclise is brutal if you're fresh from vanilla man)
    I know this is a fairly complex topic and if it were to be done, it would be later on after having introduced things like walls and stalls but I would really like to see a video of this style on knockback plants. there's plenty of them like primal peashooter, chard guard, kiwibeast, levitato and even some in mods like eclise stallia. knockback, to me at least, is a really cool effect that has its uses offensively and defensively. heck, several zombies even use knockback to some degree by being able to push your plants backwards. I just think there's a lot to expand on there but hey that's just me

  • @stormRed
    @stormRed Рік тому

    Love the new video style!

  • @starboundsingularity
    @starboundsingularity Рік тому +1

    i dont play pvz and i honestly probably never will but i am entranced by these videos nonetheless. youre an absolute icon

  • @jaydog4159
    @jaydog4159 Рік тому +13

    If you're doing another one maybe do instas. Like what each one is good at or reasons to use one over another.

  • @fatcorgi2892
    @fatcorgi2892 Рік тому +1

    Looking forward to the video!

  • @bomza76
    @bomza76 Рік тому +7

    Spear-mint best sun producer

  • @Apterygidae
    @Apterygidae Рік тому +3

    Loving your videos and this one is great! I was wondering if you could quickly explain what the plants do when you talk about them as I’m sometimes left confused on what makes for example a sunflower different from a primal sunflower, great videos anyways!

    • @aaronstephen3058
      @aaronstephen3058 Рік тому +6

      Tbf, these videos are targeted toward people who play PvZ2, where it’s assumed you know what these plants do.
      But for context:
      Sunflower: Costs 50, produces 50. Unlocked at tutorial.
      Twin Sunflower: Costs 125, produces 100. Slower recharge than other sun producers. Unlocked after Ancient Egypt - Day 24.
      Sun-shroom: Costs 25. Starts by producing 25 sun, then starts to produce 50 sun after producing once. Starts to produce 75 sun after producing about 3 more times. Unlocked after Dark Ages - Night 1.
      Primal Sunflower: Costs 75 sun, produces 75 sun. Unlocked after Jurassic Marsh - Day 17.
      Moonflower: Costs 50 sun. Depending on how many shadow plants are by it, produces 25 sun (0 shadow plants near it) to 100 sun (3+ shadow plants). Unlocked after Modern Day - Day 1.

    • @Apterygidae
      @Apterygidae Рік тому +3

      @@aaronstephen3058 Thanks a lot for this! Bless your day

    • @FaptaA
      @FaptaA Рік тому

      @@aaronstephen3058 thanks

  • @Scythescor
    @Scythescor Рік тому +5

    Perfect timing, I was thinking about playing pvz2 at some point.

  • @wypmangames
    @wypmangames Рік тому +1

    i love this type of masterclass video, could you do one on stalling plants next?

  • @justaguy2778
    @justaguy2778 Рік тому +2

    I like the new style of videos

  • @realleonardgibson
    @realleonardgibson 22 дні тому +1

    'gold tiles are the single BEST gimmick for the player'
    Power tiles: am i a joke to you?

  • @marshkat6653
    @marshkat6653 Місяць тому +2

    "Do not go for symmmetry" **le gasp**

  • @fayescarlet
    @fayescarlet 11 місяців тому +1

    I use Primal Sunflower and Gold Bloom (and Imitated) to produce a LOT of sun early-game, since my favorite plants tend to be on the expensive side (Winter-Melon, Strawburst, etc). It's a lot of fun that way.

  • @nickmcdonough7361
    @nickmcdonough7361 Рік тому +10

    I’d love to see a guide to instants and a guide to walls

  • @NeptuniaMorgan
    @NeptuniaMorgan Рік тому +3

    Complicated is when I opened the game after months and seeing all those new Prem and Seed pack plants and wondering what the hell they are and do. 😂

  • @michaelr1661
    @michaelr1661 Рік тому +1

    I think a guide to walls would be useful, as they are pretty niche, you don't need to use them, but they are sometimes useful. Support plants in general could make a great video

  • @play-book
    @play-book Рік тому

    NICE🤩WORK LETS APPRECIATE THESE EFFORTS THEY PUT IN BRINGING🤩AMAZING VIDS FOR US👍

  • @SirutoDaGamer
    @SirutoDaGamer 11 місяців тому +2

    All my life ive been placing sun producers in the back since pvz1 and 2

  • @amsal6603
    @amsal6603 Рік тому +1

    Yeayyyy new upload

  • @mathgamer-dm2hn
    @mathgamer-dm2hn Рік тому +1

    I think your next video should be about stalling/delaying plants, and show off some side plants (like kernel pult) that has effects that can stall zombies.

  • @galaxyf0x
    @galaxyf0x Рік тому

    love this vid. ❤

  • @misusedchair
    @misusedchair Рік тому +1

    Twin sunflower can be your only sun producer. The dtrat is just to keep planting them around the middle and use iceberg lettuce + potato mine or chili bean while you build them up.
    Currently only tested yo to frostbite cave, and it kinda falls apart for most challenge levels in wild west.
    For the challenge levels, specifically the "don't spend x sun," just don't use any sun producers, they are very much possible without them. For "don't lose x plants," either use none at all or use a column of cheap ones (like normal sunflowers or sunshrooms)
    I geuss I'd call this strat "all or barely any" due to its "all or nothing" style, with a side of occasional "some"
    Bad strat, but it works and is VERY effective in normal levels.
    In frostbite cave I just spam snapdragons and do something similar to this.

  • @AubreyFumo
    @AubreyFumo Рік тому +1

    Great video

  • @justanothermook6348
    @justanothermook6348 Рік тому

    as someone who's onto vanilla big wave beach in reflourished this is probably gonna be invaluable information

  • @Youmu_Konpaku_
    @Youmu_Konpaku_ Рік тому

    Just want to mention that symmetry and backline sun producers are something you can get away with in Vanilla. And besides, when in doubt boost the puff shroom to clear a level in Vanilla
    I played vanilla again a few months ago and finished it under a week

  • @jogugaga7121
    @jogugaga7121 Рік тому

    I love you, man.

  • @crazygalemt
    @crazygalemt 9 місяців тому

    Toadstools are my favorite plant. Though I don’t play plant vs zombies, those cute mushroom frogs are some versatile plantz

  • @illegal_melon
    @illegal_melon Рік тому

    i love ur vids mannnn

  • @owenvogel298
    @owenvogel298 6 днів тому

    10:00 note that pyre vine specifically should be used to get around this if it's available, as it won't take up tiles to heat your plants

  • @whyiwakeup6460
    @whyiwakeup6460 Рік тому

    My strat for 80% of ice caverns was pea shooters in lane 1 then torchwood, then sun prod. Optionally switch out torchwood for pepper pult or other heater and move torchwood row ahead to allow for 2 easy rows of sun producers and a good defense against weasels.

  • @lamenwatch1877
    @lamenwatch1877 Рік тому +3

    Finally, someone who understands that symmetry isn't inherently good.

  • @damianbuergey561
    @damianbuergey561 7 місяців тому +1

    Twin sunflower and regular sun flower are important for early game when you don't have primal or shroom

  • @youshouldntaddzombottothisdeck

    this channel has grown so quickly

  • @Yeshua_Kristos
    @Yeshua_Kristos 7 місяців тому

    Watching this video and then changing up the way I play has been fun! Hard, sure--unlearning how I played with Sunflowers in the past has been tricky. But fun regardless. ^_^
    Edit: I'm oddly surprised you never mentioned imitating a sun producer. It works in PvZ1 and it works in PvZ2 as well--that is, *if* you have Imitater. 😅

  • @arm7595
    @arm7595 10 місяців тому +2

    I struggle when my lawn is not symetrical

  • @larra_bird6803
    @larra_bird6803 Рік тому +1

    I use a combo of primal sunflower and gold bloom in endless zones, because setting up primal sunflowers can be tough when only starting with 75 sun each level

  • @eggg328
    @eggg328 Рік тому +1

    i think a video on instas and single-use plants could be interesting

  • @jonathangoh9804
    @jonathangoh9804 Місяць тому +4

    This guy has 1 billon coins

  • @Totally_Not_Human
    @Totally_Not_Human Рік тому

    I don't play pvz2 but its so interesting to learn about it because it has so much content

  • @hollowknightfan5938
    @hollowknightfan5938 Рік тому +1

    When creeps said to ignore symmetry i lost it
    And remembered it's April first today. How lucky!

  • @dapperpotatoes8473
    @dapperpotatoes8473 Рік тому

    Next on how to use instas maybe? I feel like they’re pretty self explanatory but there might be some timing techniques and stuff

  • @cajunking5987
    @cajunking5987 Рік тому

    Twin sunflowers have been working for me for a while.

  • @GSAtheUnparalleled
    @GSAtheUnparalleled Рік тому +1

    I'd love to see a video on how to stall properly

  • @dragoncat9153
    @dragoncat9153 11 місяців тому +2

    Don't care, going for symmetry, have a good day
    Edit: do not do this, now care, going for asymmetry, having a good day

  • @josharuni547
    @josharuni547 10 місяців тому

    I find it interesting you put the sunproducers in the third or fourth Column. Versus in pvz1 where it’s the first two that’s more common.

  • @crusaderforlife8250
    @crusaderforlife8250 11 місяців тому +1

    Ramp? Mans plays magic

  • @Nazuri
    @Nazuri Рік тому

    omg, good good good, thank you

  • @dan_yeahh
    @dan_yeahh Рік тому +1

    no one’s talking about that banana being 1000 sun

  • @Moose6557
    @Moose6557 6 місяців тому

    Sun-shroom is my favorite out of all the sun producers he is just so good and so cute 🤗😭

  • @Neolith_
    @Neolith_ Рік тому

    Was wondering why the bgm felt so familiar. Still finishing my first playthrough of Omori, no way it's music already makes me feel nostalgic

  • @noellepark8478
    @noellepark8478 Рік тому

    Im here after 48mins of this being up

  • @camping6464
    @camping6464 Рік тому

    Good video, but I like using twin sunflower because it produces the most sun each... Cycles?
    I especially use that along with Potato Mine and Chili Bean to allow building up my sun field, then I can easily place expensive plant, such as Spikerock or Coconut Cannon, or even stack my Pea Pods as fast as I can

  • @JustCallMePaper
    @JustCallMePaper Рік тому

    I don’t know if you corrected yourself (I was only listening to the audio) but it’s enlightenmint and with experience i would say it’s best with sunshroom.

  • @phantomdergwulf
    @phantomdergwulf Рік тому

    A master class in stalling next please!

  • @jurbyremotin3117
    @jurbyremotin3117 7 місяців тому

    My best combo for sun is sun shroom and shine vine plus enlighten mint

  • @RedZ-Reborn
    @RedZ-Reborn 11 місяців тому +3

    I allways get symmetry bcuz of ocd