The Odd Couple: Baltar and Lucifer - A Battlestar Galactica 1978 Compilation
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2023
- A compilation of scenes featuring Count Baltar and his lieutenant Lucifer in the original Battlestar Galactica as played by John Colicos and Felix Silla/Jonathan Harris.
Source episodes are "Lost Planet of the Gods", "The Long Patrol", "The Gun on Ice Planet Zero", "The Young Lords", "The Living Legend" and "War of the Gods".
All footage is owned by NBC.
Love these Cylon scenes. John Colicos, what a great actor he was!
He was awesome as Kayless the Klingom on Star Trek DS9
@@user-dk3up2nl1m He wasn't Kah'less he was Kor on the Star Trek TOS and reprised as Dahar Master Kor a couple times on DS9 before he passed away not long after.
John Colicos, Old School Klingon Star Trek villain and Jonathan Harris Dr Smith from Lost in Space, this was epic
Great comment - you are so right! I had never realised this.
This is so entertaining to watch. Lucifer comes across as educated, silver tounged, and delightfully devious. Thanks!
The Bond villain we never got?
This is Jonathan Harris from Lost in Space...
"Anything is possible, but the odds are astronomically against it."
I was a kid when I first watched this, the subtle sarcasm of Lucifer was entirely lost on me. But now as an adult, I can greatly appreciate it. How great this show was compared to the current anemic Star Wars shows. Bring back the glory of the 80's.
As a kid watching this in the 70's... Lucifer was one of my favorite characters in the show. Evil cylon with a sense of humor.
I thought all the cylons were cool in the original series, but Lucifer was particularly cool with that shimmering cone head.
My Anatolian LGD (a dog) has a peculiar pattern on her arse (her curly tail is always up) that always looked like Lucifer to me. I once created a side-by-side image of her arse and Lucifer, and posted it to social media -- only a few old people chuckled, sadly. But now, the youth are made more aware of this old show, with it's dog arsehole-shaped characters. 🎉
I was shocked after I found out as an adult that the actor in the suit was a little person! (I guess it makes sense as they have A LOT of electronics in there to fill up space)
Even George Lucas had Kenny Baker inside R2. Robotics weren't cheap enough to do what the can do with say Baby Yoda today. So human beings, in this case, little people, were the stop gaps - doing what the computers/robotics couldn't. @@SJHFoto
We're not old _yet._ We're middle aged!
Yes, it's corny. Yes the execution owes a lot to _Star Wars_ (tho' not the concept; Larsen was shopping the show around as early as 1970; obviously Lucas' success got the show green lit.) and yes it's lighthearted, if not comic, tone is sometimes at odds with it's very dark core story.
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I love that Lucifer was voiced by Jonathan Harris aka Dr. Smith.
I love the interaction between these two. Lucifer is so sarcastic when dealing with Baltar.
The novelizations explore Lucifer’s sarcasm
It seemed to me that Lucifer's "... By your command..." almost turned into a "whatever" after a while. Lol
A sarcasm that Baltar often misses. A fact not lost on Lucifer. If the show had managed a few seasons, it would have been interesting to see where that might have gone. As it was, we got what we got.
@@Estes705it talking about desires , in the garden of eden the demon offer human becoming gods , this is replicated in myth in the Middle East genies grant wishes but always end very bad , the narrative is about doing a pact with hell , trust me this is not a joke , Disney another corporation run by occultist in fact Walt was 33 degree mason use godmothers to grant wishes now you know what it really mean in the far East dragons grant wishes and the number 666 is good luck get it all is satanism .
Satan is call in the Bible serpent and the ancient dragon.
Lucifer reminds me of a combination of C3PO and Dr. Smith from Lost In Space
I've always loved the design of Battlestar Galactica, the Cylons, the ships, the sets, loved it.
I wish they did a new series with these guys in charge of the cylona
Its still impossible to believe this was only on 1 season ... so rich with stories
It was a well made sci-fi drama...it never gets the love it deserves. At least the remake gets respect.
@@mikep5335 The remake wasn't influenced as much by Star Wars.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq right. And actually the pilot, originally called "Adams Ark" was written by Glen Larson in the 60s...So actually the original idea WAS original...even if later drafts nodded to the Star Wars phenomenon (probably because of network pressure)
@@mikep5335 I think that there was pressure to emulate some ideas from Star Wars, from Glen Larson or a studio suit / exec. BTW even the fighter / utility craft in Babylon 5 were designed to loosely resemble X-wings.
This version is better then the remake... the starwars aspect made it fun and entertaining the not everything needs too be sex driven bloody and full of torture like the remake was
11:30 Baltar: 'Good, have them go back and re-engage the Galactica'. Lucifer: 'But Baltar, they just disengaged!' Baltar:' Yes, it will drive Adama crazy!' Lucifer: 'He's not the only one!' 😂 Baltar: 'You said something?' Lucifer:' By your command..." 😂
Lucifer was basically a snarky version of See - Threepio who liked dressing like Liberace ( Google him..... ).
It was impossible to hate Lucifer. One of the most fascinating characters on the show!
Johnathan Harris (Dr Smith from LoS) was the perfect voice for Lucifer. Every word dripping in sarcasm 😎
Even as a little kid I loved his voice. I watched _Lost in Space_ because of him. That show drove me nuts even in single digits. Everyone knows the _second_ time Dr Smith sells them out, he'd have been taken behind one of those big rocks and gotten the Paulie treatment (no canolis this time tho). It was simply not tenable that he wasn't unalived.
Mr. Harris’ delivery was impeccable! There are no actors around today that can duplicate him
I thought I recognised his voice, thanks for the clarity.
They could of also gotten the actor that voices KITT(Also played Mr. Feeney from Boy Meets World) from Knight Rider to do Lucifer's voice too. He did appear in the Halloween episode of Galactica 1980.
And he got to play Lucifer in Fantasy Island!!
I had a chair like that for my office. But everyone kept getting annoyed that I could see into their cubicle.
Baltar is one of those guys who manages to create his own hell. And he deserves every minute of it.
It is such a shame that this show was denied a second season. Galactica 1980 was a joke!
I've heard that they would have had humanoid Cylons, including a *female* Cylon like Six in RDM's Galactica.
The more modern one wasn't much better either.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq Actually they did have Humanoid Cylons for one two part episode of Galactica 1980 and that episode wasn't too bad.
@@michaelbenjmitchell1 I've heard that there were plans to introduce a *female humanoid Cylon* if Galactica 1980 had lasted. I think that Richard Hatch's idea for BSG:The Second Coming might've been swiped for Ronald D. Moore's version, but I don't have any proof.
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq The Reboot series was pretty much Hatch's and Moore's brainchild.
I remember an article in _Starlog_ magazine right after the cancellation of the show, where the authors pointed out a very interesting parallel to the original _Star Trek._ The interplay between Baltar and Lucifer was very much in the vein of the Kirk/Spock dynamic, with an emotionally impulsive commander being paired with a logical second-in-command.
A perhaps unconscious inspiration. The parallel runs even deeper than that. Both Baltar and Lucfer are completely amoral - whatever will accomplish the task or goal, is a good thing. The Cylons are very soclialist about stuff: if there's resistance - smash it, buy it, circumvent it, but overcome it by whatever means necessary. Whereas Kirk and Spock had deeply moral cores - defend the process of laws, Federation population, property etc. Now they often broke the rules doing this, but the moral nature of what they did was always apparent. So Lucifer/Baltar are a moral mirror to Spock/Kirk.
Very well said. These well written exchanges were the absolute highlights of the series.
The sound and lighting was fantastic in that show.
These 2 work great together, Lucifer is such a cool character.
He also has style too, cool clothes ❗
His walk is smooth as hell 😁
I bet Baltars soft suede boots were very comfy
❤❤❤ this tv series have kept our childhood nights preoccupied and full of expectations...now, its just nostalgia...
What a lovely compilation video! :D
My favorite Cylon character from the 1978 Battlestar Galactica: Lucifer!!!
In particular, in the episode in which Baltar became deluded with the reports coming out from Specter while Lucifer maintained his reason and caution, made me to love Lucifer.
Too bad, Lucifer was stuck with Baltar. But ...... such is ...... life! :P
Same, he was adorable in that episode!
RIP Jonathan Harris
I think they could have made a baltar and lucifer spinoff with them marooned on a planet!
Knowing Jonathan Harris, that would have degraded into a comedy pretty quickly.
Love that someone did this! These two were the highlight of the show for me, their dialogue was gold.
This was really intresting! We never got a complete back story or ending on Baltar
If ChatGpt had a voice, it would be Jonathan Harris’
one day....
@@TheRogerhill1234 Would need permission from the Harris estates first.
"Oh the pain - the pain of it all" - myself and my eldest still use that one to this day - drives everyone else bonkers. GREAT!
I'm sure when it reads half the prompts we give it, it silently thinks, "Oh the pain... the pain!"
Wow, I saw scenes in this collection that I recall watching decades ago but had also forgotten about long ago! This must have taken a lot of work to put together, I enjoyed it immensely! The banter between these two is hilarious. Very well done!
The extraterrestrial " Odd Couple " !
@@DanielAppleton-lr9eq Thanks to you, now I can't get The Odd Couple TV song out of my head! 🤣
@@pacnwguy9056 Congratulations ! You've got EARWORM ! I had it all through Christmas when they played " Last Christmas " & " All I want for Christmas is You " to oversaturation. Oh, yeah - I think that Six or Brother Cavill was the RDM Galactica version of Lucifer. I'm not the FIRST person to express that idea, BTW.
I wish I could see all the shows again
I ran into Patrick MacNee many years ago... he was checking into a hotel and I knew his voice. The hotel staff said he dropped by frequently to take a break. One of a few times I should have said a polite hello...
Amazing show … this is before Disney Plus and all of their Star Wars and Marvel shows. Just good old fashioned television 📺
Just these two on screen is just hilarious and genuine. Great acting, exchanges between the two. Great television.
Uh WOW! Christmas came early this year! What a video! These two were the reason I started watching BSG when it briefly aired on MeTV in 2017, and they’re still my favorites. ❤❤
Battle Star Galactia and Firefly one season shows that should have gotten more
I always wondered what Baltar did all day, just sitting up there on that chair! 😅
I always wondered where the toilet was on a ship built for machines by machines.
John Colicos was once asked this question at a fan con panel. He brought down the room by answering "reading Marvel comic books, of course."
He was a day trader.
Lucifer sounded heartbroken when Baltar announced his surrender..
Can’t be much fun sitting in the dark on that throne thing on your own all day, put a light on at least stick a TV in there
Maybe he had a stack of magazines or comic books?
Patrick Steed, John Colicos, and Jonathan Harris.🤗🤗🤗
Patrick MacNee played John Steed.
@@CT-uv8os Yes, and he did the voice of the Cylon Supreme leader, as well as, a Devil like figure later in the season.I screwed up his name. Thanks.😀😀😀
A trio of really evil characters- All famously known of other Science fiction to shows.😊. Except McNee he was the good guy in The Avengers.
@@paulhunter6742 Everyone makes a mistake sometimes, lol!! Patrick McNee's voice is unmistakable, as is Jonathan Harris'. John Colicos was perfect as Baltar.
A great shame these 3 actors are no longer with us. Classic. Such a classic.
@MichaelKurse Np. Sorry for the late reply.
Lorne Green, George Murdock and Lloyd Bridges were great on the show too.
I love the esoteric overline of BGS OG.Cant beat old school!
Loved the cheese-ball drama. Once they are done speaking in the command room, Blatar's chair swings back so he can continue monitoring, a blank wall. ;)
Interesting intel, John Calico who played Baltar was a Torontonian!
Yep. So was his opposite number, Adama (well, a Canadian at least)
Yeah, Lorne Greene (sp?) bounced for better weather eventually! ;) @@SJHFoto
@@robertfoerster566 I'm sorry-I don't understand what you typed
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It does lead to some interesting questions. Does he just sit on that throne 8 hours a day awaiting these occasional updates? And yet, back in 78, I NEVER thought of that.
The one thing I missed in the Battlestar: Galactica remake was the interaction between Baltar and Lucifer. I guess Six made an acceptable substitute.
Wasn’t quite the same. But yes.
Seeing things only from the Cylon side makes me cheer for them.
There is a comical element to all these scenes. It's hard to pin down, but it's there.
I love John Colicos!!
Kor the Klingon, Baltar, " Quinn ", an alien / human mutant hybrid in The War of the Worlds series - quite a body of work for his filmography.
Honestly John Colicos, Jonathan Harris, Lorne Greene, as well as Patrick McNee made that show.
Lloyd Bridges also was great.
Gotta love old school.
@@CT-uv8os Gotta agree with you there. Most of them weren't just " famous for being famous ". They earned their stripes, folks !
Baltar -the manspreader in chief
like how they turn the mask down to make the lights a frown instead of the usual grin
Jonathan Harris. How his contribution as Lusifer's voice was "uncredited" is not something i can understand. He made that character. Great work with John Colicos.
This is an absolute delight! Thank you for this.
Johnathan Harris voiceover was so awesome. Made a great character!
Miss this show..still think these cylons could be used in a movie today, they hold up well and are still intimidating as heck
The special effects and production values on this show were great
Awesome clips.
Great sci fi series.
lol when lucifer would mock baltar when his plans would fail.
I will never forget the phraze....By your command.😂
Same. It's awesome.
In German, I think it was "zu Ihren Diensten", which is more like "at your service".
There are reasons I was in love with this show when I was a kid.
"Isn't he wonderfully devious? We can learn much from him".
"He is not the only one"; "You said something?"; "By your command"
Hehe!
Lucifer - Like a snarkier See - Threepio.
I love the theory that suggests that Baltar was turned into a Cylon but has no memory of it. Hence why he hasn't been executed for his failures and why he's somehow permitted to seek power of his own. He's still his devilish human self. But may have a new body after decapitation 😆. This is of course based on the idea that the OG version of the pilot was how it actually played out and the subsequent retcon was part of a ploy to make a Cylon capable of hunting down the humans.
I recall a comic run that finished up the story (better than G80 imo) which had him become a cyborg after multiple injuries, but that could be changed to fit the theory.
Okay, I looked it up and it's from 2009 and a completion of G80 that saw Adama and Baltar face off one last time as the Galacticans and Earthlings teamed up against the Cylons in a climactic finale. It was part of the Classic BSG Omnibus Volume 1, which I got my dad for his birthday a number of years ago.
@@darthplagueis4626 Very nice! I also recall Earth building a Battlestar in Adama's honor and uses his name. It was a TRS Jupiter Battlestar!
Lucifer: "We are ALL machines. Even you...of a sort!"😉
Baltar was executed by the Cylons in the theatrical version of the first couple episodes
Luckier has such a sense of humor for a machine.
The men who played the roles were sci-fi veterans...Colicos was in the original Star Trek as a Klingon captain; Johnathan Harris (voice of Lucifer) was Dr. Smith on Lost in Space.
23:06 may I suggest the legendary Commander Kane, love that line.
Great Video very enjoyable to watch
Love this. Thank you so much! Makes me want to do a fan fic of a crossover of BSG OG and UFO.😊
What a great show!
I like how their command-ships are just double-decker flying-saucers. 😁
And the cylon raiders are fudge stripped cookies.
"By your command."
very cool! great job! :)
I love how baltar is told 30% of the cylons will make it back and instead tells lucifer to have them turn around and attack again! Using cylons as cannon fodder!
I also like how he told Lucifer that he would do it even if they were human pilots and Lucifer agreed (with the ironic tone to suggest how loathesome Baltar is)
@@SJHFoto To make an omelette you have to break a few Cylons ?
I’d love to know what Baltar is looking at when his throne keeps turning away after his conversations with Lucifer🤔
He said once that he was asked that very same question. He told a group of fans that he was reading MARVEL comics !
Space pornhub
I wonder whatever happened to Lucifer after Baltar got captured? He could probably claim that The Galactica was destroyed, but Baltar died in the fight...then, seek a new adventure in command of the base ship...
Possibly, the imperious leader demoted lucifer for what he considered failure.
"By the Lords of... Python??? Or C++?? or was that Pascal? Dammit, I forget. Oh yeah, COBOL. By the Lords of Cobol!"
At 12:50 in Baltar's initial contact with Specter, there is a throne in the communications center??
I always loved the music they played when they showed a baseship. Catchy.
Yeah, it was undoubtedly too expensive to maintain the large throne room from the early episodes of the show.
Always liked Baltars uniform
Me too. But I've always wondered what was up with the collar. Too low. The neck area is kind of drafty. And that white portion, I'm not sure what that was supposed to be. Some sort of undershirt? But then now I see it again, it seems like it's trying to be a cravat or ascot. Kind of like a Count might wear (as in "Count Baltar").
@@zemxxi2765 How did he get his laundry done, since the base ships had no laundry facilities ?
Great work
Cool video.
Such old-school villianry. He sits high atop an elevated throne with nothing to do except spin around and issue evil orders. No desk. No terminal. No email to catch up on. Just...sitting there until someone comes in for an evil monologue.
Even in real life sometimes the bad guys can be pretty dumb.
Great scenes and 'Lucifer' was a great character, plus his 'early IL series' rival 'Spectre'. Along with John Colicos (and Jonathon Harris) this really showed how good the Screenwriting was on the show, it's not just the effects alone.Also great Cylon designs for both the Cylon Warriors and 'Lucifer'/'Spectre'.
Mikkos Cassidine vs. Dr. Zachary Smith. Classic.
Also, thank you for listing the episodes. I have the big box set of almost all Galatica. This makes me want to watch these episodes.
Excellent acting. Modern Star Wars can't even approach this.
I was five years old when this was new. The writers did such a good job that I could sense the tension between Baltar and Lucifer even at such a young age.
lololol....Ho the good old days. :) Love this video.
Probably my favorite scene is near the end of an episode where Baltar think he is about to witness the end of the Galactica when out of nowhere the Pegasus comes at him. The exchange of lines between him and his cylon pilot was so enjoyable.
Lucifer is the OG version of Caprica 6... From a certain point of view. Or Karribdis lol
I love when Baltar says “he wants me!” and Lucifer is looking on like….dude you’re losing it.
John Colicos was a great actor. In the UK, BSG was showing in the early 1980s on Saturday evenings on ITV after Blockbusters. I never quite understood at the time why Baltar was heading the Cylons against his fellow human beings....
I was under the impression that the Cylon leader decided to spare what was left of the humans and sent Baltar to talk peace.
That was in the movie version. Once it was accepted as a series, they cut that dialogue
Hey it’s Jonathan Harris! Dr Smith from LIS ❤ I didn’t know he did the voice of Lucifer
For a moment, I was back in high school.
Sunday nights.
This and The Muppet Show.
As a kid it made complete sense that Baltar would hang out in that room all day, sitting spread eagle, facing away from the door, waiting to dramatically swing around and face Lucifer.
I know. He’s not even got a tv in there.
Im glad Baltar had Lucifer as a foil...
Damn, for how "kitch" the whole thing feels now. The actor still deliver hard
That last bit at 25:15 almost convinces you that Baltar is actually trying to do some good now. He seems tired of it all, especially after Lucifer reminded him of what a traitor he was to his people. I've noticed that he became more subdued and demoralized after examining those strange lights. Did he already know who and what they are?
According to Count Iblis, he compelled Baltar to go to the Colonial Fleet, although in Baltar's mind, he probably thinks he reasoned it out of his own accord.
@@darthplagueis4626 That's another mystery left unsolved. The agroship miracle was also suggested to be a coincidence.
Doesn't that contradict the transactional nature of Iblis' power? He himself says he has no power of Apollo because Apollo rejected him. While Sheba willingly followed him and therefore, he could kill her. If he _compelled_ Baltar somehow, that kinda blows that mechanic right up. Of course, if he meant he blackmailed him or something, then ok.
If so, it would also beg the question as to why Iblis didn't just compel say Tigh to take command or Starbuck to do whatever? Imo, making Iblis' power contingent upon _consent_ makes for a much more interesting dynamic. And is one of the more interesting parts of the mythology of Satan. @@darthplagueis4626
Wouldn't it have just been the Mormon-Angel guys in the sparkly-glowy ship that saves Apollo and Starbuck? -- and gives them the snazzy white unis! @@zemxxi2765
I could swear the Cylon Centurions were voiced by voice actor Frank Welker.
Ah these were golden days.
Lucifer's voice-over actor is the guy from Lost in Space Dr Smith
"What intrigued me most was whom was to be whose prisoner".
"Lucifer, if I ever get my hands on you, I'll tear you apart limb from limb, circuit by circuit, so help me!"
One of the greatest fulm i have ecer saw
The head cylon speaking at the beginning is the same voice actor as the character Count Iblis but I never could work out whether there was supposed to be a connection or if they simply reused the same actor for 2 different parts. All I knew was from the moment Count Iblis appeared, I was waiting for him to reveal himself as the supreme cylon.
The original idea of Quantum Leap was Baltar jumps back in time to try to speed up Earth's development so humanity can fight the Cylons when they arrive. Starbuck jumps back in time to stop Baltar from interfering in history, and Apollo, from the present, communicates with Starbuck to help him.
In the book, he was executed almost immediately after his betrayal. The Cylons rightly concluded that anyone who would betray his own race can't be trusted at all.
Bearing the twig of peace
Baltar and Lucifer(Dr. Zachary Smith). What could go wrong?
“Do not fence with me my friend.”
All this time, I never knew Johnathan Harris was Lucifer (his voice)
I remember the first time I heard the voice of Lucifer I was like, I know that voice, matter of fact, the first time I heard the voice of the imperious leader I knew that voice also. Patrick macnee from the TV show The Avengers, was the voice of the imperious leader, and Jonathan Harris from the TV show Lost in Space was the voice of lucifer.