Cylons Origin - Battlestar Galactica's Horrifying Monstrosity Who Became Biggest Foes Of Humanity

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  • The Cylons Origins - These sentient robots are the greatest enemies of humanity in Battlestar Galactica!
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  • @ethenallen1388
    @ethenallen1388 11 місяців тому +10

    You keep jumping between the classic series and the reboot which, I am sure, are entirely different stories, and it's giving me whiplash.

  • @davepowder4020
    @davepowder4020 Рік тому +40

    RIP Dean Stockwell, the Cylon with the coolest lines!

  • @xenofett7008
    @xenofett7008 Рік тому +136

    I preferred the Cylon origin story from original BSG. A reptile alien race that emulated human physiology and created a security force of machines based on it. An oversight in the programming of their creations lead to the downfall of the reptile Cylon race.

    • @JCYoung-ni4cy
      @JCYoung-ni4cy Рік тому +17

      Exactly. They were like Saberhagen's Berserkers, AI war machines that outlived their makers.

    • @earlleeruhf3130
      @earlleeruhf3130 Рік тому

      The oversight was the reptiles sold their soul to Satan,"Patrick Magee" thus losing their physical bodies. The Cylon ruler always has the devils voice.

    • @greiglennon
      @greiglennon 11 місяців тому +6

      Is that actually what happened? I thought they just turned themselves into machines, after they made a deal with Count Iblis (the Devil).

    • @xenofett7008
      @xenofett7008 11 місяців тому +8

      @@greiglennon That's how Apollo described it in the pilot episode and there is also a narrated intro by Adama describing this on some of the old VHS tapes. I'm sure Iblis had his hand in influencing the original Cylons as well.

    • @TheLecherling-hu1vu
      @TheLecherling-hu1vu 6 місяців тому

      THAT's why I figured they LOOKED like they did - with one eye and and a kind of fin on top of their heads. Maybe, THAT's basically how these reptilian beings were physically and they were cast in THEIR image.

  • @matthiaskochsiek3746
    @matthiaskochsiek3746 Рік тому +27

    For me the best Robot voices of all sci fi are the cylons fromm the Classic series.

  • @ExSoldier762
    @ExSoldier762 Рік тому +92

    I loved watching this show while I was still a senior at the University of Alabama in 1978. I didn’t like the cost cutting sequel in 1980, but really enjoyed the reboot with Edward James Olmos.

    • @stevegarvey5607
      @stevegarvey5607 Рік тому +7

      It was in reruns by the time I watched it as a kid. I was born in 78. You didn't feel put off by buck being a woman in the reboot? I don't mind woman characters or leads. I just don't like gender swapping for PC sake

    • @alexpratt71
      @alexpratt71 Рік тому +9

      @@stevegarvey5607 no, she played Starbuck perfectly. I was worried too, but Katie is a beast 👍🙂🐻

    • @ihavetubes
      @ihavetubes Рік тому +6

      Love the show, never saw the original but the one in 2004. I was hooked until the end which is very rare, I think it ended when it needed to end so for me it was the perfect tv show.

    • @stevegarvey5607
      @stevegarvey5607 Рік тому +4

      @@alexpratt71 I tried to watch the reboot. I couldn't get very far. The original Starbuck was a womanizer and I couldn't get past the shaking camera. In the old show the second in command on the ship was changed too. I remember my mom having issues with the reboot and she was a fan

    • @alexpratt71
      @alexpratt71 Рік тому

      @@stevegarvey5607 that’s a shame. It’s very enjoyable. But I can dig what ur sayin. I would suggest picking a random episode, from any season, and see if you still feel the same way, ur really missing some great stories. Anywho, it’s always nice to hear from an OG fan, like myself 👍🙂🐻

  • @stephensmith3708
    @stephensmith3708 6 місяців тому +5

    My favorite Cylon model is #8, Gracie Park is a CUTIE!

  • @Jeff-fc3tw
    @Jeff-fc3tw Рік тому +11

    I remember as an excited little kid tuning in on Saturday Nights to watch the original Battlestar Galactica...
    When the remake came out, it was a little different for me having grown up on the original,. But I Did like the remake also

  • @geosword6
    @geosword6 Рік тому +44

    Really good production put you can't conflate the two timelines into one.
    Would've been interesting to see a split and comparison of how the two shows explained the origins.
    There's absolutely no way the two can be linked tho.

    • @johntoldme
      @johntoldme Місяць тому +1

      It's just hilarious how much he gets wrong trying to do that.

  • @stukahen
    @stukahen Рік тому +11

    Gotta love the iL-series Cylons (Lucifer and Spectre) from the original series.

  • @voidvoidvoid7274
    @voidvoidvoid7274 2 місяці тому +3

    BSG is the reason why I say "Hello" and I'm polite when I have a conversation with GPT, I thank it and wish it a good day. No kidding.

  • @thegearsparten
    @thegearsparten Рік тому +14

    Man this show was sooo cool 😎

  • @InternetGravedigger
    @InternetGravedigger Рік тому +22

    Mind you this is the origin that was retconned with the new stuff... in the original series, they were created by a race also known as Cylons (a lizard race, thus the appearance of the Imperious Leader) but eventually destroyed their creators and later went to war against the humans.

    • @tompearce5418
      @tompearce5418 6 місяців тому +1

      Strictly speaking in the Original Series they went on a campaign against neighbouring alien races until the Colonial humans came to the assistance of an ally, drawing the ire of the Cylons on themselves.

  • @matthewserros5680
    @matthewserros5680 Рік тому +18

    Liked the show but I like the original cylon origin.

  • @earlleeruhf3130
    @earlleeruhf3130 Рік тому +6

    I enjoyed the first series. A friend loaned me a copy of the pilot of the remake. It was 2 hours of boredom and I never watched another episode.

  • @richardkenan2891
    @richardkenan2891 Рік тому +4

    Cylons: We have made our ships the pinnacle of technology, with advanced computers and vast numbers of missiles to smite our enemies.
    Colonies: We strapped some engines and more guns than should be allowed to exist onto a steel brick. Hack that, Toaster!

  • @That80sGuy1972
    @That80sGuy1972 Рік тому +35

    What I never got about the Cylons, aside from this making them perpetual story antagonists, is why they would keep wasting their resources to chase down the escaping humans despite how bloody they get in doing so... that makes them, in their OWN standards, quite human in inferiority.

    • @InternetGravedigger
      @InternetGravedigger Рік тому

      Simple... their goal was the ABSOLUTE destruction of the human race, no survivors.

    • @Never_Know_Best
      @Never_Know_Best Рік тому +12

      I think, in reality, the Cylons had much more in common with humanity from go than they’d ever have admitted.

    • @That80sGuy1972
      @That80sGuy1972 Рік тому

      @@Never_Know_Best I'm 100% with you on that... which is part of what I never got about them. Perhaps like the homophobe whose favorite thing is to menace/socially harass/politically oppose/religiously detest all forms of non-heterosexual because they are "in the closet." Tasty mind candy, eh?

    • @chriss-nf1bd
      @chriss-nf1bd 9 місяців тому

      Watch Caprica you will get the answer to your question. They were made from a father's sadness of the death of his daughter. By using a program made by his daughter to recreate her from information from the internet. The Cylons reached sentiance. With all the flause, emotions and ambitions of humans... so it wasn't a far reach after fighting for independence and failing. They would want to wipe out those who keep them from that. At the End of the reboot of BSG. the Cylons independents was recognized and allowed to go out and make their own way.

    • @cesaravegah3787
      @cesaravegah3787 9 місяців тому +6

      The Humans were mostly politeists were the Cylons gained senteince and almost inmediatly universally adhered to a fanatical monotheist religion, their quest to destroy humanity was basically a Jihad, yes, the Cylons were at the end quite similar to humans

  • @gerryheddema2555
    @gerryheddema2555 2 місяці тому +2

    The 1978 Cylons DID NOT REBEL against their creators. You can see "The Imperious Leader", one of the last of the original biological creators of the Cylons, direct the attack against the Human Colonies. In the Part 2 episode of the Pegasus story, the biological, "Imperious Leader" is present on the planet of "Gamorrah" to inaugurate a new, second Cylon capital, and then the humans attack. In the book, Battlestar Gallactica, by Glen A. Larson and Robert Thurston, (1978), it explains that the Cylons were originally a biological race that was dying out, and their machines were sentient, but living with fewer and fewer commanders. Also, the dying, biological Cylons, were dominating other races and letting them live, but for some reason, were jealous of humanity and hated them and wanted all humans dead.

  • @arthurzettel6618
    @arthurzettel6618 Рік тому +10

    I loved watching both shows the original and the later. You know these shows could be a warning about artificial intelligence turning on humanity. It's only a thought.

  • @Trygvar13
    @Trygvar13 Рік тому +47

    I like the reimagined miniseries but I still prefer the original. The novels (some of them written by Richard Hatch) expand the lore and are actually quite good.

    • @pcjenkin
      @pcjenkin 11 місяців тому +2

      Without revealing my age too much, I enjoyed the original as well. I especially liked the episode where they had to disable a large laser on an ice planet. Good acting, even by 70's standards.

    • @urbanurchin5930
      @urbanurchin5930 11 місяців тому

      @@pcjenkin I remember the original series as well - but only saw a handful of episodes ( it was my first year in the military - I had to stay focused on that ).
      It was the series with Loren Greene and Dirk Benedict. One of these days, I may try to go back and watch all of it. Prequel looks interesting.

    • @DanielAppleton-lr9eq
      @DanielAppleton-lr9eq 5 місяців тому

      @@pcjenkin They weren't a rip off of Star Wars like some people claim, but they were influenced by it.

  • @ogdenvonkol5014
    @ogdenvonkol5014 Рік тому +119

    The original series of the Cylons (reptilian race) creating the Cylon mechanical IS cannon. The second BattleStar Galactica reboot is heresy in so far that that version was created to avoid copyright infringement which (the original series) was owned by Richard Hatch (Apollo). The studio did not want to pay Mr. Hatch any royalties on the reboot. This is the same mess as in Star Trek's Kelvan timeline and I do not acknowledge that timeline as cannon either. Corporate greed can ruin anything.

    • @Madeintheshade65
      @Madeintheshade65 Рік тому +29

      I think humans creating the Cylons and they rebelling against their masters is the better story…Just my opinion.

    • @Venezolano410
      @Venezolano410 Рік тому +20

      Yet Richard Hatch was in the reboot. 🥱

    • @michaelnance8319
      @michaelnance8319 Рік тому +11

      Gene Larson the creator of the original series was going to show the background story to the Cylons, in his version if the series had continued, the Cylons were created by the Ancient Humans of the Planet Kobol which left their planet to create the 12 Colonies and the last lost colony would’ve been Atlantis on Earth. After the war the Cylons Machines were found by the Reptilian Cylon race and the Machines turn on them to conquer the universe. Over a few thousand years the Cylons forgotten their own origin. In Battlestar Galactica 1980 the Human Cylons were shown in one episode.
      The fact that Ron Moore version took Gene Larson version and only add that real Earth was just another humanoid planet with early Humans that mix with the 12 Colonies Humans to create Modern 21 first century Earth.
      In Gene Larson original version, Battlestar Galactica gets to Earth to learn that Atlantis was destroyed and all the Humans living on Modern Earth are it’s descendants and they join force with the 12 Colonies for a big battle offensive against the Cylons and the Original 12 Human Cylons models rebel against the Cylon emperor and help Galactica while the final 13 Cylon Human model is revealed to be one of the cast members or crew member above the Galactica the whole time and this Human Cylon stay loyal to the Emperor. For what’s it worth Ron Moore version was pretty much close to the original outline that Gene Larson wrote out for the series.

    • @shanenolan5625
      @shanenolan5625 Рік тому +2

      @@michaelnance8319 yes the colons had a human model. In 80 .

    • @chrischreative2245
      @chrischreative2245 Рік тому

      Sexual colons…how edgy and progressive…yawn 🥱

  • @saliston
    @saliston Рік тому +58

    The original Cylon backstory was much better than the reimaged version.

    • @johnfisher9692
      @johnfisher9692 6 місяців тому +5

      I agree
      Moore never did explain just WHY the Cylons made the Flesh bots or why they let them take over and treat them worse than the humans ever did.
      The whole Baltar betrayal plot is ridiculous and pointless when he put in jump drives as FTL, In the show they jumped into Planetary orbits so all the Cylons need to do is JUMP and instantly launch missiles. No defense system could react in time, especially after decades of peace.
      IMO Moore's BSG was garbage

    • @Timberjac
      @Timberjac 6 місяців тому +4

      In the remake they bastardized a story with incredible depth with huge creative possibilities, replacing it with a disjointed story with multiple plot holes and no way to give it consistency even with all the contact glue in the world.
      But worse is what they did with the main characters, especially Adama and Tigh in the first degree, but with the rest in the second. Removing basic characters like Athena and Cassiopeia.
      And if that wasn't enough, they changed an incredibly beautiful and majestic Galactica, by a kind of "Galactica" wrinkled like a raisin.
      I hope that someday someone will make a series that does justice to Glen A. Larson's original work.

    • @elliottenglish2388
      @elliottenglish2388 6 місяців тому

      I disagree ALOT. Moore's BSG was better, if you know the show well enough it is explained that the final 5 created the flesh models and that the newer centurions had inhibitors placed so they didn't have free will. @@johnfisher9692

    • @YDV669
      @YDV669 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Timberjac So wait, are you saying I'm not the only who thought that ever since watching BSG:2004?

    • @Timberjac
      @Timberjac 5 місяців тому +2

      @@YDV669 Exactly, and there are more of us than we seem. In my case, I admit that I enjoy rewatching the old series more than watching a single episode of the remake (Every time just by watching the Galactica of the remake and remembering the bunch of mental morons that are almost all the main characters, I directly lose the desire to see anything else.
      The only one I can tolerate in the remake is the one where they tell the past of the Pegasus... but it's not because of the show, it's because of the actress who plays Captain Helena Cain (Michelle Forbes).

  • @striplingwarrior6309
    @striplingwarrior6309 5 місяців тому +3

    Perhaps BSG influenced Age of Ultron, the Borg and maybe even the Matrix

  • @spaceace1006
    @spaceace1006 Рік тому +5

    In the BSG Re-Boot, the Cylon history is quite similar to the Cyberdine Systems Terminators!
    Mankind's own technology becomes too smart, sees us as a threat and wages a war of extermination!

  • @kmoecub
    @kmoecub Рік тому +85

    The origins of Cylons were retconned for the reboot. Originally they were built by a species of lizardlike humanoids, which they rebelled against and wiped out.

    • @RedwoodTheElf
      @RedwoodTheElf Рік тому +17

      Which was a better origin, IMO, than just making them a carbon copy of Skynet.

    • @sidvane1
      @sidvane1 Рік тому +14

      Right. This video states the resurrection concept (Cylon immortality) was part of BSG's 1978 story, which it wasn't. That was Ronald Moore's re-imagined story (1990's) Marvelous Video is getting the storylines crossed. (3:04-3:19)

    • @vanmoody
      @vanmoody Рік тому

      We always hear about how the world is being secretly run by lizard people. It makes me wonder if it is true because we are being told that we will be eating bugs. Also there is discussion on AI which could develop and then turn on humanity. Na!!!! I don't think any of that is true.

    • @danjager6200
      @danjager6200 Рік тому +7

      Yes, I don't care about the history of the reboot cylons. It was stupid.

    • @nicholasmaude6906
      @nicholasmaude6906 11 місяців тому

      @@sidvane1 Those Cylons are CINOs (Cylons In Name Only) while their creators were real Cylons they themselves were genetically-engineered mass=cloned Human-replicants with some cybernetic implants, they were later retconned as having backstabbed their robot creators deactivating most of them with some managing to flee to deep-space (The Guardians) and the rest lobotomised.

  • @DennisMoore664
    @DennisMoore664 Рік тому +13

    Trying to put all the Cylons from both series into one video was a bad idea. It would be better to make a clear division between the ones from the original BSG and the ones from the rebooted series. It would be like trying to make a video about Lt. Starbuck - beyond both being cigar smoking viper pilots, they are very different characters between the original and the reboot.

  • @theldun1
    @theldun1 Рік тому +8

    Damn toasters with AI.

  • @martinmowbray4304
    @martinmowbray4304 Рік тому +11

    I preferred the original origins.

  • @dragonweyr44
    @dragonweyr44 2 місяці тому +1

    Correction: The follow up series was known as Galactica 1980 and was set, mostly on Earth
    The 1978 Cylons didn't have resurrection ships and the like. That was the 2003 Cylons

  • @nicktechnubyte1184
    @nicktechnubyte1184 Рік тому +8

    So many amazing sci fi shows from my childhood!
    It was hard to keep up with all of them before the internet was becoming more mainstream with video media!

  • @Pahoe77
    @Pahoe77 Рік тому +7

    This will always be BSG to me. The original series. Not the rebooted mini series. The original series, was not well served by their network

  • @Workerbee-zy5nx
    @Workerbee-zy5nx 4 місяці тому +1

    Loved how the blue neon lights reflected off of the mirror chome cylon gear..original is the best..🤓👍👍👍👍

  • @williammitchell4417
    @williammitchell4417 Рік тому +10

    Compared to other channels, great job. I also like how you seperate the two different storylines.

  • @OriginalGrasshopper
    @OriginalGrasshopper 2 місяці тому +1

    I wish this video would have just talked about the original Cylons from the 1978 series. The reboot from 25 years later was needlessly complicated and as a result the Cylons weren’t nearly as intimidating.

  • @SwordlordRoy
    @SwordlordRoy Рік тому +8

    I recall the original Cylons from the Book WERE Lizard Aliens, they even had one scene where one of the Centurions as part of the Surprise Attack took off his helmet to look at his fellow warriors. This book also had Baltar getting beheaded, which they got as far as filming before they decided to spare him for the show.
    When they got to the TV show, well...regulations were odd to say the least. Humans fighting Lizard Aliens on a regular basis would be to violent, but humans vs the Lizard Aliens War Robots wouldn't.

    • @2fathomsdeeper
      @2fathomsdeeper 6 місяців тому +1

      From the first series, I thought they were insectoids, given that they allied with the insectoid Caralon aliens.

    • @DanielAppleton-lr9eq
      @DanielAppleton-lr9eq 5 місяців тому

      @@2fathomsdeeper Ovions were slaves to the Cylons.

    • @jsizemo
      @jsizemo 4 місяці тому

      You do realize that a decade earlier, Captain Kirk had already fought a lizard alien, a Gorn on TV.

    • @ahhamartin
      @ahhamartin Місяць тому

      I remember the comic scene where they slash his neck was also in the dvd disk version I have. Which must have been the original, like Tigerman getting a rocket up his backside in Buck Roger's theatrical version, but not when it was on tv.

  • @williamking3301
    @williamking3301 Рік тому +4

    @ 1:55 Whoa whoa whoa! Hold it! 1942?? Caprica is not Earth, in either the original or reimagined series. The film makers modeled the Colonies, Caprica in particular, in the miniseries of the same name, in some aspects of their culture after 1940s to 50s America, like the cars and the clothing. They wanted the feel and look of it for the time period before the first Colonial-Cylon War. Don't think they came up with an exact calendrical reckoning for either the new "Battlestar Galactica" or "Caprica." A more accurate description would have been in order for this narration.

  • @chadmcginney1600
    @chadmcginney1600 Рік тому +21

    I actually enjoyed the remake more than the original. It was a bit more credible.

    • @williamking3301
      @williamking3301 Рік тому +2

      I like both series, the first one because of childhood memories and the second one because it is a more fleshed out darker grittier story with interesting themes.

    • @user-tf1rq9vg1j
      @user-tf1rq9vg1j Місяць тому +1

      While I grant you are correct-I feel the same way-if it wasn't for the ideas and overall story arc, the ships and people of the original BSG, there would have been no one to suggest a reboot to a popular show.

  • @alexpratt71
    @alexpratt71 Рік тому +8

    Caprica was OUTSTANDING! ended to soon

  • @williamprice1844
    @williamprice1844 Рік тому +2

    Great effects for the time.

  • @MrHawkins01
    @MrHawkins01 Рік тому +11

    the original series storyline is way better

    • @the_omg3242
      @the_omg3242 Рік тому +2

      I disagree. The original concept, (alien robots exterminate their creators then go on a rampage) was just a rip off of the Berserker books by Fred Saberhagen published in the 60's. (which would actually be a pretty cool series in it's own right)
      While the reboot concept of mans creations trying to destroy him is pretty cliche, they did a decent job of exploring the story from the cylons side as well as from the human perspective.

  • @Anarchist86ed
    @Anarchist86ed Рік тому +3

    Do you not know the reboot series happened 150,000 years ago?

  • @karlsmith2570
    @karlsmith2570 Рік тому +3

    I personally hated the rebooted version of Battlestar Galactica's backstory of who created the Cylons

  • @shadowhenge7118
    @shadowhenge7118 Рік тому +2

    Monotheism... screwing with humanity for millions of years.

  • @dkerai73
    @dkerai73 Рік тому +4

    Bring back the golden era of sci fi series in 2023…

  • @teacherjeremyford6625
    @teacherjeremyford6625 2 місяці тому +1

    I thought it was a horrible idea, but I started watching it and I liked Caprica and was sad when it was cancelled.

  • @stifynbaker2914
    @stifynbaker2914 3 місяці тому +1

    The Cylons. Best use of a Vocoder, ever.

  • @TheKeyser94
    @TheKeyser94 Рік тому +10

    No one would say how stupid the "Final Five" story arc is? But like the producers says, they have no plan whatsoever apart from the miniseries, they go as they went along, that created stupid plots like the stupid love triangle between Lee, Kara and Sam, Kara being a deity figure, the stupid Final Five, and the fact that in the end, the story have no resolution whatsoever.

    • @Trygvar13
      @Trygvar13 Рік тому +3

      And who the Hell was Daniel? Why was his model canned?

    • @johnweatherman5685
      @johnweatherman5685 Рік тому +3

      The first season was ok in my book. After that, my wife and I only watched hoping that everyone would die. After they lost Billy, there wasn't anyone in the fleet worth saving.

  • @brunozeigerts6379
    @brunozeigerts6379 Рік тому +4

    I understood that the Cylons were originally intended to be reptilian creatures in battle armour for the 1978 version. It was decided that this would be too violent for TV, so they were changed to robots.

    • @urbanurchin5930
      @urbanurchin5930 11 місяців тому +1

      Wasn't this the story line for the mini series "V" ? I only vaguely remember that show.......

    • @brunozeigerts6379
      @brunozeigerts6379 11 місяців тому

      @@urbanurchin5930 No, they were reptilians disguised as humans.

  • @CT9905.
    @CT9905. Рік тому +2

    From Slavery to becoming the MASTER!!!

  • @ericmadsen7470
    @ericmadsen7470 7 місяців тому +6

    There is nothing like the classic Battlestar Galactica.

  • @aneophyte1199
    @aneophyte1199 Рік тому +7

    Your entire description of the Cylon's are based on the new reboot series and have nothing to do with the original series or the first release movie or the first book describing the conflict between the Human's and the Cylon's. You did have a slight mention that the Cylon's were robots created by a reptilian race though the book identify the Cylon's as being the reptilian race wearing armor not robots. The Cylon's were turned into robot's to placate the TV censors from condemning the show because of the violence of showing people killing other people.

  • @nicholasmaude6906
    @nicholasmaude6906 11 місяців тому +2

    The reason why the Cylons in nBSG initially got as far as they did when they revolted against the 12 colonies is because their AIs WERE part of the system, property cyber-security would've kept them locked out of Colonial computer-systems. The reason why the Cylon invasion worked so well is that it was an inside job where a No.6, Natasi (Who was Dr. Baltar's lover) surreptitiously modified his CNP software to introduce rootkits ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit ) plus her using Baltar's connections getting access to the CDF's mainframe to get its' order-of-battle and patrol schedules.

  • @Kyle-sr6jm
    @Kyle-sr6jm Рік тому +6

    All because someone wanted a better AI chatbot.

    • @hackman669
      @hackman669 Рік тому +1

      Must, not again!!!!😁😄😃

  • @rinehardt6837
    @rinehardt6837 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for this. Of all my favorite sci-fi Star Trek number one Star Wars a close number two but Battlestar Galactica is right there in the mix. And far too often it's overlooked as amazing sci-fi. I speak of the original I don't think people realize edgy that show was in 1978 I know I was like in the fourth grade. And even then I noticed they were using a lot of the same shots over and over. However the reimagining that they did lead by Ronald Dee more of Star Trek the next generation DS9 they did an amazing job. I was conflicted about watching the new show but seeing Richard hatch on there just really made me comfortable with it. Turned out to be one of the best shows I've ever watched. I also love Caprica such a great show never found its audience but there a lot of people tell you that was an amazing show. So as someone who just turned 55 and is a lifelong battle star Galactica fan thank you

  • @tompearce5418
    @tompearce5418 6 місяців тому +3

    The Cylons in the reimagined BSG series were technologically superior to humanity because they drew heavily on the knowledge imparted to them by the Five (artificial humans from the older Thirteenth Colony who agreed to help the Centurions create humanoid models of their own in exchange for ending the First War).

    • @DanielAppleton-lr9eq
      @DanielAppleton-lr9eq 5 місяців тому +2

      RDM's Cylons were more like Blade Runner's Replicants, in fact Edward James Olmos, who also played Gaff in Blade Runner, gave a DVD of BR to Tricia Helfer to use as a reference. The Cylons were basically Replicants without 5 year lifespans.

    • @tompearce5418
      @tompearce5418 5 місяців тому +1

      @@DanielAppleton-lr9eq and with a limited range of models. As far as I know there's no canonical explanation for the Five creating eight humanoid lines instead of millions of individuals, other than the time and effort that went into crafting each personality.

    • @DanielAppleton-lr9eq
      @DanielAppleton-lr9eq 5 місяців тому

      @@tompearce5418 Well, I think that I'll invoke Blade Runner again. There were surely other models, but we only saw Roy, Zora, Pris as well as Leon getting the Voight - Kampf test ( & Rachel ), yet there probably were other models of Replicant as well, these guys just made it to Earth. I'm not even going to touch WHY they came to Earth except maybe to seek out Tyrell. NO discussion of synthetic life is complete without at *least* touching BR. Rachel was a sleeper model like several of the Cylons.

  • @christopherwoods5150
    @christopherwoods5150 Рік тому

    Other than the popularity of the original (1980) 2nd season being hugely overstated, good stuff, ty.

  • @williammay5300
    @williammay5300 Рік тому +3

    Battlestar Galactica reimagened isn't fit to be called Battlestar Galactica!!!

    • @hackman669
      @hackman669 Рік тому

      Call it Galactic 😄😃😀

  • @user-ub9tw8gi3j
    @user-ub9tw8gi3j 2 місяці тому +1

    I remember in the 70s as a small child The original cylons scared the shit out of me .The newer cylons looked lame

  • @slowraceultra
    @slowraceultra Рік тому +2

    The old school series was awesome back in the day.

  • @airwarorg
    @airwarorg 11 місяців тому +1

    Ceylons - a brutal dig on the US military industrial complex and US military in gengeral.

  • @jacobtraver8342
    @jacobtraver8342 3 місяці тому +1

    And with AI and robotics, we are creating them for real. WOOHOO!!!

  • @bf6159
    @bf6159 Рік тому +5

    I forgot all about Lizard People making the Cylons in the original series, watched it as a kid, loved it. They did great with the reboot, one of the few remakes where I can say they did it well and payed respect to the original. Unlike the average reboot of today.

    • @fedr39
      @fedr39 Рік тому

      If you watched the original series as a kid then you forgot about Count Ibli who corrupted the Cylon robots in turning against the reptilians. "War of the Gods" tells you how it happened and that he was the instigator.

    • @hot2warm
      @hot2warm Рік тому

      @@fedr39 Yes, his voice was transcribed into Machine Leader a millennium before the original series takes place.

  • @thehillbillygamer2183
    @thehillbillygamer2183 Рік тому +2

    Battlestar Galactica reboot their 10-man portable or Cylon portable energy weapons now I do think that the fighters had energy weapons are real guns or something little red things that they shot from the Vipers always thought those were some kind of energy weapon or maybe a railgun slug but they're not bullets but now the standard hand held weapons are guns basically projectile weapons

  • @kroninn
    @kroninn Рік тому +13

    I watched the 2010 reboot. I still love that show. In that series, Earth was the 13th(lost) Colony, not the human origin planet. They found the original Earth, destroyed by war so, pressed on and found our planet 10k years ago. They settled in different parts of the planet and sent their ships into the sun. Interesting story because, both Cylons and humans mixed into the human population on Earth, inferring that we today are the decendents of those humans and cylons. As if they are the Anunnaki and their other known names around the world.

    • @Markus117d
      @Markus117d 9 місяців тому +2

      In the 1978 show, Earth was the 13th colony. Kobol was the human home world.

  • @fusedarchive
    @fusedarchive Рік тому +16

    I love both shows, but the original has a much more nostalgic pull for me. I'd have preferred it if you had split the two completely separate cylon origins as two videos as this feels far more skewed to the reimagining, and unfortunately glosses over a lot of the original lore

  • @user-gt4ni2ok5o
    @user-gt4ni2ok5o 6 місяців тому

    When we feel love and kindness toward others, it not only makes others feel loved and cared for, but it helps us also to develop inner happiness and peace.

  • @SamSchott1
    @SamSchott1 Рік тому +6

    The downloading into a new Cylon body after death was not an idea from the 1978 series. Fun video, though. Thanks!

    • @noneya3635
      @noneya3635 Рік тому +1

      It totally true. In War of the Gods Baltar and Coint Ibli have a conversation about how his voice could be the same as that of the Imperious leader as it being recorded or downloaded, into the imperious leader model Ceylon.

    • @SamSchott1
      @SamSchott1 Рік тому +1

      @@noneya3635 Great deep cut reference! That just never struck me as the same thing as a consciousness download.

    • @noneya3635
      @noneya3635 Рік тому +3

      @@SamSchott1 probably not, but since the term download and AI were not in the sci fi lexicon at that time it's not that far off from what they meant I'd say.

    • @SamSchott1
      @SamSchott1 Рік тому +1

      @@noneya3635 I see where you’re coming from.

  • @tkskagen
    @tkskagen 2 місяці тому

    I was blessed to be adopted in 1985, to be able to visit UNIVERSAL STUDIOS in 1986 with my new family.
    Within this tour, I was able to see KITT, JAWS, A-TEAM, and The Cylon Ship as part of the tour back then.
    How lucky was I?!

  • @williambixby3785
    @williambixby3785 Рік тому +4

    I wish Netflix or someone would stream this

  • @worldtraveler930
    @worldtraveler930 Рік тому +1

    If you all have the opportunity get ahold of the ORIGINAL Novel from which all of these series were created from it deals with Cylon's as a Straight Up Alien race, it is a Very Interesting read if you can find it and Quite Entertaining!!! 🤠👍

  • @stuartmcmahon8870
    @stuartmcmahon8870 5 місяців тому +2

    I found this video very confusing, trying to merge two separate plots/storylines just didnt work. I have watched both series a few times and this video doesnt make a lot of sense. it would have been better to a video for each series..

  • @jonnowds
    @jonnowds 10 місяців тому +1

    This is rather incoherently written. Better linear structure and particularly more attention to the differences between the series would have helped this to be comprehensible to those who don’t already possess a comprehensive knowledge of all the series.

  • @edwardbloecher4563
    @edwardbloecher4563 Рік тому +3

    The first spin off was Galactica 1980 not simply Galactica.

    • @rei-rei
      @rei-rei 11 місяців тому

      It was hardly a spin off. It was just a continuation of the series. It's not like the series continued on separately.

    • @edwardbloecher4563
      @edwardbloecher4563 11 місяців тому

      @@rei-rei Still considered a spin off like After MASH or Archie Bunker's Place.

  • @shaunhall6834
    @shaunhall6834 3 місяці тому +1

    The irony is this will all become real.

  • @jinglejazz7537
    @jinglejazz7537 3 місяці тому +1

    I cheered for the cylons.

  • @bigdaddychud
    @bigdaddychud Рік тому +3

    Was there a Gold centurion in the reboot series?

  • @d.bebfjcgfdfijhj
    @d.bebfjcgfdfijhj Місяць тому

    Here's the only fact worth pointing out: that tall blond in the remake was the voice actress behind EDI's voice (the one in the middle, shown at 6:08).

  • @berserkerusmc7613
    @berserkerusmc7613 6 місяців тому +1

    Man, you got so many things wrong. I don't know where to begin.

  • @brandonduke118
    @brandonduke118 19 днів тому

    Ya know if you read the novel from the original series you'd find out that the each cylon body (in the original series) actually had a small organic brain hooked up to a controlling machine brain. As the cylons advanced in rank, their organic brain was increased in size.

  • @suonoblu6650
    @suonoblu6650 4 місяці тому

    According to one theory about the reboot series, it was the invention of organic memory transfer technology that was the cause of the wars that forced the inhabitants of Kobol to gradually abandon their home planet.
    As on Earth, there were many people on Kobol who considered resurrection technology an abomination against their religious faith and as a result conflicts erupted across the globe, not only attacks against the first generation of humanoid Cylons and vice versa, but even among members of a same nation who were divided due to different ideological positions on mind uploading, not to mention world conflicts.

  • @ds_the_rn
    @ds_the_rn Рік тому

    I loved the ride at Universal Studios!!! Cylons 4 ever

  • @wisconsinbound2123
    @wisconsinbound2123 Рік тому

    very good video thanks

  • @user-yn8uk6qn1k
    @user-yn8uk6qn1k 6 місяців тому

    The truest greatness lies in being kind, the truest wisdom in a happy mind.

  • @naybur74
    @naybur74 Рік тому +1

    i have both new and old series on DVD.

  • @Chloe1sylvester1234
    @Chloe1sylvester1234 Рік тому +48

    The remake Cylon origin story is dull and boring the original is far more interesting. The Cylon's were created by a reptian race with the same name. The first Cylon they created was Imperous Leader Cylon that took on the appearance of them but it's programing was corrupted by a god like creature know as Count Ibis, who was properly worship by the reptian cylons. The Imperous Leader Cylon declared war on their creators wiping them out, leaving only the machine cylons alive. Eventually they declared war on the colonists.

    • @TheCoffeehound
      @TheCoffeehound Рік тому +4

      The original Cylon origin story is just a retread of "Robots rebel against their creators." That's been a theme in science fiction forever. Hell, the story that originated the word "robot" came out in the 1920's. The name of the story is R.U.R. Care to guess how that story line went? If you go back even further, the theme of "creations rebelling against the creator" is common in Greek/Roman mythology, as well as the Bible. The Cylon origin story is not even close to unique or interesting.

    • @CT-uv8os
      @CT-uv8os Рік тому +4

      ​@@TheCoffeehound Well there's the piss in my coffee....

    • @johncassity3661
      @johncassity3661 2 місяці тому

      Cylons'

    • @donna00777
      @donna00777 Місяць тому

      Agreed

    • @nudegamer6496
      @nudegamer6496 29 днів тому +1

      And the reason stated in the Pilot Episodes of the Original Series as to why the Cylons went to war against the Twelve Colonies (Humans) is because the Twelve Colonies (Humans) interfered in the relations between the Cylon Empire and other Nations/Species.
      I'd also like to point out that the Twelve Colonies (Humans) were NOT the only Race/Species that the Cylon Empire had interaction/conflict with.
      And CONTRARY to what the PATHETIC 'remake' claims, the Human/Cylon War lasted a MINIMUM of a Thousand Yahrens (years), and NOT just "twenty years" as the PATHETIC 'remake' tried to "claim".

  • @alisonsmith4436
    @alisonsmith4436 Рік тому +1

    This show was so good I loved it

  • @jordi6795
    @jordi6795 9 місяців тому

    I had great memories of the original series, as I grew up with that series as a child, it allowed imagination to fulfil some of the plot holes, the technological limitations and the budget constrains of that time to remember it as a fantastic show.
    The current remake/reimagination, though having far better effects and giving a wider sense of scale, it still fails to transmit the true or a more realistic size that a twelve colonies civilization would have, in the first episodes it simply transmitted as if there were only one single planet, Caprica, instead of twelve, and also fail introducing some inconsistent features to the plot, the technological constraints, the vulnerability of the defense system, the use of 20th century small weapons, the use of old Bakelite telephones (wtf!?) and some other nonsenses for a show of such type.

  • @user-zg8mo5jc4c
    @user-zg8mo5jc4c 6 місяців тому

    To follow, without halt, one aim: There is the secret of success.

  • @TygerBlueEyes
    @TygerBlueEyes 10 місяців тому +1

    I like the original series lore better than the reboot.

  • @Daemonarch2k6
    @Daemonarch2k6 6 місяців тому +1

    In my childhood, i liked the ships and story of galactica more than starwars or startrek. At this day, they are all equally loved
    But wait - what is michael shanks doing in this?

  • @billcarson9565
    @billcarson9565 Рік тому +1

    16:07 sounds like pulse rifles being fired :)

  • @LeTon75
    @LeTon75 2 місяці тому

    Nice Vid!

  • @crosisofborg5524
    @crosisofborg5524 6 місяців тому +1

    Grace Park is the only thing that made the reboot watchable.

  • @frankschalk7790
    @frankschalk7790 7 місяців тому

    Love the imperious Leader’s Fro. Only in the 70s

  • @brianbrewer8346
    @brianbrewer8346 Рік тому

    THANJ YOU

  • @CsaW4rri0r
    @CsaW4rri0r Рік тому +4

    I had no interest in the reboot. I only like the original Galactica. I remember back in the day there was some lore about the cylons having a fully robotic humanoid body with a small reptilian creature inside controlling it.

  • @brianbrewer8346
    @brianbrewer8346 Рік тому +1

    Don't know this is a first bout cyclones but I'm ready.

  • @DarthDaddy-cg6ro
    @DarthDaddy-cg6ro 4 місяці тому

    Thanks.

  • @nicholai40
    @nicholai40 9 місяців тому +1

    Actually Battlestar Galactica was a movie first. And the Cylons in the original series were left behind by a superior race. See War of the Gods. Baltar realizes that Count Iblis is the voice of the imperious leader.

  • @user-dc5te9mf3h
    @user-dc5te9mf3h 6 місяців тому

    In the long run we get no more than we have been willing to risk giving.

  • @nickmail7604
    @nickmail7604 2 місяці тому

    A bit like game of thrones, somebody American appears to have studied the Wars of the Roses and thought, "gee great story".