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The 1 Secret Thing You CAN'T Be In Scientology
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- Опубліковано 14 сер 2024
- Tom Cruise, John Travolta and keeping THIS secret in scientology. Buy a DNA kit here: bit.ly/OntheEd... Use the coupon code GOLD for free shipping. As a bonus, you can start a 30-day free trial of MyHeritage’s best subscription for family history research - and enjoy a 50% discount if you decide to continue it.
Ex-Scientologist Nora Ames describes the difficulties of growing up with her identity in Scientology and the truth about the sexualities of Tom Cruise and John Travolta.
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Chapters:
0:00 Can you be in gay in scientology? (Shocking)
4:30 Founder L. Ron Hubbard’s WEIRD Beliefs
9:20 L. Ron Hubbard’s Sexuality (Hated Women)
12:20 Weird Woody Allen Aside
14:24 Tom Cruise vs John Travolta
18:45 John Travolta Allegations
20:00 Scientology Brainwashing Gay People
23:40 Tom Cruise Almost Quit Acting
26:00 Cruise: Scientology Over His Kid
28:00 Ableist Scientology Views
32:00 Drug-Fuelled Madness of L. Ron Hubbard
34:00 Unexpected View on Christ
36:50 Do we know John Travolta is…?
40:20 Tom Cruise & Chris Hemsworth
43:00 Are they being blackmailed?
46:10 Nora was sent to a LABOR CAMP
48:00 Naked Showers With 40 Women
50:00 Who drilled a peep hole!
51:15 Nora's incredible leaving story
57:00 Scientology doctor refused to treat her
1:00:00 'Never been more terrified!'
1:03:00 Her Friend's Awful Prank On Her
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Here are the timestamps:
0:00 Can you be in gay in scientology? (Shocking)
4:30 Founder L. Ron Hubbard’s WEIRD Beliefs
9:20 L. Ron Hubbard’s Sexuality (Hated Women)
12:20 Weird Woody Allen Aside
14:24 Tom Cruise vs John Travolta
18:45 John Travolta Allegations
20:00 Scientology Brainwashing Gay People
23:40 Tom Cruise Almost Quit Acting
26:00 Cruise: Scientology Over His Kid
28:00 Ableist Scientology Views
32:00 Drug-Fuelled Madness of L. Ron Hubbard
34:00 Unexpected View on Christ
36:50 Do we know John Travolta is…?
40:20 Tom Cruise & Chris Hemsworth
43:00 Are they being blackmailed?
46:10 Nora was sent to a LABOR CAMP
48:00 Naked Showers With 40 Women
50:00 Who drilled a peep hole!
51:15 Nora's incredible leaving story
57:00 Scientology doctor refused to treat her
1:00:00 'Never been more terrified!'
1:03:00 Her Friend's Awful Prank On Her
Just bought 2. Thanks for the free shipping, Andrew. Now I’ll find out if my mother was the daughter of a jewess, or not.🫣
Travolta seems to like cigarettes 😂
@@Des7iny7 Ohhhh interesting
@Andrew Gold you should pin this to the top
LOVE me some @Oh No Nora! Ames!! So articulate & positive, despite the INCREDIBLE amount of obstacles she has had to overcome! A perfect interview with a perfect guest, & exposing the DIRTY TRICKS that the CULT, aka "Church" of $cientology, continues to play. Thank you for this!!
(Would've absolutely been here sooner but MIGRAINES...lol) Thanks!
Daaaad, Tom Cruise won't come out of the closet!
LMFAO!!.. that’s gold!.
Everyone in z Hollywood knows Tom is gay. Same for Travolta.
👏 👏 👏 Standing ovation level South Park reference. 😂
@@sharkeen812I don't think Tom is gay but I think will Smith is gay !
Classiquely So. Park!!
As a gay woman with cerebral palsy I’m glad Scientology would never consider me
😁😁😁👍🏼🙋♀️
If she's 14 years old. She's not a prostitute. She's a victim
What do Scientology and cars have in common?
…’Cruise Control’
Why do dad jokes make me laugh so hysterically?
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
😅😂
Nora is the friend every human needs and feels so familiar. She also puts off a strong mama bear energy, that makes you feel like if she loved you and somebody wronged you, she would go to war.
Yeah…you don’t mess with mama bear vibes…unless you’re profoundly stupid.
Yes you are so right on that Ian :)
I agree.
Nora is a beautiful lady, and explains ❤️ things with such eloquence, diversity 💙 and genuine energy.
😘😇
Ide love to meet Nora.
Love Australia 🇦🇺
You said it perfectly.
There’s plenty of love for Nora
Yes she is awesome
😆😂 How on earth did Andrew keep a straight face when Nora said, "I'm sorry Planet Earth. I apologize on behalf of Scientology for Tom Cruise's erratic dumb f@ckery behavior"...
I burst out laughing 🤣
He’s in two cults. Scientology & Illuminati. In my opinion & observation.
She really nails it when describing Cruise. In an ideal world someone like him would be institutionalized for research purposes.
Me too
So battlestar galactica was a scientology storyline. What were the viewpoints of it's main stars, like Lorne Green (yes, lawns are green. Stage name huh?)
@@rellrheeanna1354Former members claim that the only person above him is Miscavige.
Maybe the reason John and Kelly never made any statement about John is because they felt they didn't need to justify anything to anyone. It's no one's business.
Also it may not have gone over well in Hollywood back in the day when John was a big star.
I think Katie would be happy that Tom Cruise doesn't see Suri
Thanks Andrew for having Nora on. Her story is heartbreaking but she still projects so much positivity.
Yes, Andrew. Great show!
My dad met LRH in Pasadena in the 1950's. He told me he was a gay, married misogynist, occultist and to stay away from "people" like that! I grew up in a different world wide cult.....
Thank you for having Nora on, Andrew! She is so knowledgeable, funny, kind and presents information in a way that completely engages her audience! Lovely job, both of you!!
Your comment sums it all up 👏👏👏🇦🇺
@@Susan-dk3ut
Agreed 👍🏻
Why is her face so ted?
@@janemay7181
Lighting? Not even that red.
@@missmissy_90 could be, I never thought about that. Thanks
Nora is a gem! Been waiting for her book for years ... yes Nora, there is a powerful book in you and we all know it! Thanks Andrew for the interview!
I love her. If I was a lesbian, I would probably fall in love with her. Strong woman not hesitant to show her vulnerabilities; down to earth (Dutch people love that); sense of humour; I am convinced that she is a better mother than many straigth women and that she will figth as a lioness if anyone comes after her children and other loved ones.
I am sorry she had these experiences. I am happy she came out as a strong woman and seems to be doing well.
Wow her Scientology explanation sounds like Chad Daybell’s zombie scale of light and dark spirits!
@@catherinesullivan641 Was thinking exactly the same. What sick madness! Criminals hiding under the guise of "religion"/"evolved belief system". Heinous truly.
You can absolutely be gay in Scientology as long as you donate multimillions to them.😂
OMG Nora !! This is the first time I've heard your story. You are a bad ass warrior!! Much much respect for you. BIG Hugs so happy you got outta there!!!
Tom Cruise is asexual at this point. If he could marry himself, he would.
Omg. I was laughing so hard, Nora, when you said Tom Cruise "was like...I'm a samari." I had tears in my eyes! You are so funny !
TC is 5’7” pretending to be 6’7” Replaced in REACHER by a real man.😄
If John Travolta being gay surprises you then you obviously haven't seen 'Saturday Night Fever'.
Or Hairspray
My kids never knew their Father because of his post in Scientology. He did not pay child support until the Gov. Took his Social Security benefits. So very sad. So very sad.
😢😮😢
I am gay and I definitely do not want Tom Cruise to be playing on my team. As for Travolta, I just hope he is true to himself whatever that may be.
My severely autistic step son was abused in public school by teachers. One in particular! She shoved his face into black board and forced him to write his name with a pencil! After pulling his seat out from under him and causing him to fall and hit his back and head! He was being body slammed into the wall and chalk board his face grinding into board. He stabbed her hand with the pencil! The principal called and threatened to press charges for assault because he broke the skin of her hand! They never told us how it happened! They made it sound like he just refused to write his name and he stabbed her!!! Period!!! They didn't know that another higher functioning autistic child knew Mikey! And he told his mom what happened! Who contacted my wife. They were refusing Mike entry! Suspending him indefinitely! We contacted the school and informed them they will be hearing from our attorney. That we were sueing the school district. They immediately had Mike transferred to a descent school that was noted for helping autistic students. Which they refused to do before! They were pushing to have this 12 year old charged and arrested! For her abuse!!! Never believe what they tell you about progress of your child! It's mostly all just for the funds from state they earn by providing progressive education for them! Sad!!!
She is, by far, the most enjoyable ex-Scientologist to listen to, and I like most of the apostates.
Hi Andrew
This has got to be one of the best interviews I’ve ever seen you participate in. Nora is fascinatingly, funny, intelligent, self-aware, and should be so proud of who she’s become.‼️‼️‼️‼️ I wanted to reach through the screen and hug her. I could truly sense her stockpiled pain, and yet her newfound happiness. ❤
Thanks for your program. I really learn a lot.
MB CANADA 🇨🇦
Hubbard was a second rate science fiction writer and an even worse religious? founder. Nora is amazing, I could listen to her all day. I'm glad you had her on ❤
Not a religion it’s a CULT
The author Harlan Ellison knew Hubbard more intimately than Hubbard's followers and showed mocking destain for their mindless devotion.
Second rate? Fifth rate at best. I’ve READ Battlefield Earth.
@@DanaTheInsane haha yes you're right. I read a book of his many years ago called * Dandelion Wine * only that it was a very small book with only a few short stories in it I actually bothered finishing it. I've had two of my short stories published so I understand the publishing process, I'll never begin to fathom how that book actually made it into shops it was so bad, and I've never been tempted to look at any other of his works.
Movie was such a turkey, don’t know how you could wade through the entire book of such boring nonsense.
Nora, however; fantastic, funny, insightful interview, thanks!
Andrew you are the best interviewer. You let your guests talk
I think Andrew hid a smirk when Nora did scissoring hand symbols.😂
Thank you Andrew! Nora is a wealth of knowledge! Nora just continue being you! We love you! ❤
I love seeing how happy Nora is now, and her insights and honesty and humor always impress me. I'm so glad you had her on, and her channel is great.
Andrew!!!! Thank you , than you, thank you for having Nora on your show. I hope everyone who watched enjoyed listening to Nora!!!
Nora...Your vulnerability is heartwarming. I'm so glad your survived and are happy & healthy. Such a beautiful woman
My god. Nora, I'm truly so sorry they put you through all of that! It's a miracle you're still here. I'm so sorry, I hope you know what an amazing person you are. ❤
As someone who has physical disabilities AND mental health struggles, I appreciate Nora so much for speaking out on the views.❤❤ (Even though I love her anyway!🥰)
I read a bit of Dianetics in high school. As soon as they started hated on “the gays”, I was done!
So happy I was smart enough to walk away just on the hate thing alone.
Love this guy’s interviewing style…he actually puts the focus on what the guest is saying!! His comments are just designed to draw out more clarity and details.
I agree 👍.
Andrew, the joke about the postman during the commercial just cracked me up!!! For once it was fun to watch the plug for the sponsor. Great humor!
Aw thanks Martin, I try to make them fun, otherwise it's a bit dull isn't it! :)
Love Nora's explanations! She so clear-headed!
💕💕💕💕 Love you Nora!! You're so pleasant to listen to. Oftentimes you have me rollin' even while talking about some of the most heavy heavy stuff. In a respectful way of course. You really are like a beacon a shining light. You mentioned that you're thankful that we have welcomed you the way we have. On your hard days I hope you remember, that we more than welcome you.... We wonder where the heck you been all our lives?? We've been waiting for somebody just like you without even knowing that we were waiting for someone just like you. You're doing amazing work! Please keep it up 🙂 Us SPTV fans I'm sure wouldn't really want to trade any one of you for the other. All of you guys are working so hard! All of you guys bring together individually amazing gifts! Thanks for interviewing Nora, Andrew!! It's amazing to witness great people doing great things!!❤
Well said.
Love this comment. 😀
Great guest! Thank you, Nora for pointing out that the reason a person has any success is because the person makes it happen, THEY do it ..... not the Scientology.
I agree with you about Woody Allen. It is disgusting what he has done. Why is he still supported by Hollywood? I really respect Rosie O'Donell she called him a pedophile and said she would never work with him. She turned him down twice for roles.
@@rellrheeanna1354 she stood up for abuse.
i can’t stand Rosie O’Donnell, but i applaud her for standing her ground.
I love the incredulous looks on andrew’s face when she describes hubbard’s expeditions.🤣 it’s definitely mind boggling!
It's very sad, life is short. Travolta deserves to be with who he wants to be with.
Unlike Tom, I think John is trapped, Scientology has some extremely personal information about him and his family
The absolute BEST guest describing the horrors of Scientology you have ever had on your show. There were moments when I was brought to tears.
Nora is the first X-Scientolagest that clearly explained what Scientology is about. It really sounds like science fiction. Thank you Nora
Bottom line is, Scientology fucks with your mind! It's that simple! You know they are fucking your mind, and they attempt to continue to do it! Smart people leave this foul organization, and I'm happy for them. God Bless you Andrew Gold.. stay safe, stay true to your Jewish values, your friends..Hug those people you love. Smile, and stay strong...Your religion is inside you..And be grateful, you are free of this terrible organization! I wish I was younger, because I am so attracted to you...Just keep up your good work...because it's healing you as well! 💞💖🦋
Nora is so genuine. I never miss her car talks. Love you Nora!
This is the first former Scientologist that really talks about L. Ron Hubbard. Most only talk about Miscavige. L. Ron Hubbard is the creator of this religion that has hurt so many people. I thank her for focusing on LHR's belief system and how truly horrible he was.
Thank you Andrew Gold for having Nora on great interview love from Canada ♥️🇨🇦💜
How she was treated is so very sad; what a horrible horrible group of brainwashed, mean-spirited people. Good for her getting out … poor thing ❤
Strong human.
I cant imagine growing up in scientology 😢
So scientology is just one persons acid trip😂
Nora! What a great guest! So authentic! Love her!!!
I love Nora. I wanna hang out with her. She's so funny. Glad you got out of that mess.
Please have Nora on again. She is so funny and enjoyable to listen to 😊
She’s a ray of sunshine! 🤗🌻
Nora is such a beautiful soul. I’m so glad you had her on. The more truth that gets out about the evil cult of Scientology, the better. ❤
Many gay ppl suffer from "internalized homophobia" due to early messages of non-acceptance, shame. This is why "coming out" is courageous, and unique to each person. The Scientology trauma is just an extra scar.
Great nod to ‘Schitts Creek’ Nora! ‘Rose Apothecary’😂😂😂 ❤️🇨🇦
❤ ew David
Excellent interview. Thank you. for having Nora on, The more people uncover about Scientology, the scarier it is. Like 1984 brought to life.
Nora is amazing and so charismatic and energetic in her telling of the Tales. Thank you for having her on! She has STORIES 😬💔❤️
Love Nora! The world is a better place with her here and out of that awful cult! Thank you again Andrew for an awesome interview!!!!
❤what an amazing woman . This human being is one of the strongest most articulate guests I’ve ever heard🌹 down to earth and honest 🌍💕blessings to all🥰she made some absolutely wonderful points❤️she did it with heart and humor mixed with humility ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🌈kudos
You can't help who you fall in love with, when will humans learn? Love and companionship is all that matters, surely?
🥰 Beautifully said! 🥰
Love and sx is freedom. Cults top bosses keep freedom to themselves
You can't help who you fall in love with but you can help what you do about it. I'm not talking about LGBTQ here, but there are mentally ill people like erotomaniacs who stalk and even kill the objects of their affection as well as p*dos who often convince themselves they love children. The key thing is consensual relationships where both parties are adults and have the appropriate mental capacity. I would add to that, that they should not be related by birth or marriage ( as in, don't have a relationship with your relatives husband or wife, girlfriend or boyfriend. ) Unless you live a poly lifestyle or have an open marriage and your partners also do this, you shouldn't be having affairs with other people's partners or outside your relationship or marriage, either.
a couple of questions for Nora: was your husband a (ex)scientologist. Is your wife a (ex) scientologist
What a strong woman! So many people would not have survived what she went through. I’m so glad she made it out!
Nora is so engaging funny and so adorable I hate to hear that she was told she was worthless nothing could be further from the truth ! I've been a Scientology watcher for years now and it's only since Oh No Noras channel that my husband has taken any interest with me. Nora's definitely his favourite!❤
Hubby has great taste. 😌😂
Love Nora to pieces. Her authenticity is real.❤
OMGGGG!! I love her! It's so refreshing to hear a normal intelligent straight forward conversation. Thanks to you both Andrew & Nora!... she said "stoked"!🤣🤪
Andrew, I had a chuckle at the MyHeritage because it reminded me of the Episode of Broad City when one of the main characters Illana (very jewish) did her test and it came back as 100% ashkenazi. Her mum said in a thick NY accent “I could have told you this for free!”
Great interview love Nora. Thank you for all your hard work Andrew
Andrew, thank you for having Nora on! 💗 She has been through so much and yet she still has such a wonderful perspective on life and a great sense of humor.
I get a gay vibe from Travolta. However, it doesn't matter to me if he is straight, gay, or bisexual. He is a beautiful human being. I've always loved his acting. That is all that should matter. As for Tom Cruise, no gay vibe at all.
Great interview!! I can't imagine how difficult is to be inside that cult!! 😔 So happy for her she found freedom!!❤
This was such a great interview - heartbreaking but it makes me love Nora even more. Andrew you are such a great interviewer because you truly want to know.
Cults are SO dumb, really. 🙄
Love ‘Le’ Nora !
Thank you for sharing such a difficult story. Love 💕 from Canada 🇨🇦
This channel keeps getting better and better that was a brilliant interview. Thank you .
Thank you 🙏 thank you Nora & Andrew for dropping knowledge in such an entertaining way 🎉
AMAZING INTERVIEW!! Thank you Andrew for continue bringing light to the horrible things that the cult of Scientology did still doing until today. Thank you NORA!!!! For sharing your story and for shining the light for everyone that has suffered discrimination base of their preferences 😊 keep up the great attitude and spreading your amazing vibes of love and acceptance ❤❤❤
Our schools here in Lincoln, Nebraska require a teacher to get a child the needed testing as soon as they identify a learning disability of any kind.
I love this Nora. Glad to see her on your show!!!!
Andrew, I'm glad you asked the question, 'how do we know John Travolta is bisexual?' Up until then I thought well finally, we have a confirmation on the subject. But nooo, still speculative interpretation.
Nora's story is something you couldn't make up. A lot of Shocking and enlightening stuff.
She's a great guest. Great interview!
I like the Chapters timetable. Is this an ongoing thing now?
Thanks EL! I am trying to do the chapters whenever I get time. It's a bit of fun, and allows me to look through the video again, which I enjoy. But also - time-consuming. So I'll see!
Nora you are a sweetheart ❤ so authentic 😂
Thank you for having Nora on. She is amazing explaining SOC. God bless you and her for all your doing❤🙏
Great interview Andrew. Nora is such a great speaker and funny af.
Yes!!!!
Thank you, Andrew and Guest, very interesting. From South Africa 🇿🇦.
This is the kind of person, your interview guest speaker in this one, she is a really cool human being! I could not get get bored listening to her, spend me a few days on a vacation or all day picnicks and camp out with her and a few people, I can imagine the comforting ,supportive, great personality,honest -truly interesting to hear her talk for hours a day and not even have to necessarily say anything yourself, its liable to just that great listening to her, its rare to get the joy and blessing to have this level character and her ability to stay on a flawless track, I enjoy her narrating right along and IT STAYS SO INTERESTING and I found it very useful!❤😂
Very engaging interview. ❤️Nora. Such strength, honesty, respect & strong sense of person. Thanks Andrew ❤️ your interviews.
More like OH YES, it's Nora 🥰 So glad to see you both!!
I don't care how good Woody Allen is at his job. He's extremely sick in the head. It pisses me off that Hollywood keeps enabling him. What's worse is society supports him by paying to see his movies. GAG
I so agree!
"He gets to be Lucifer" omg I can't lol
Nora is so great. I’m so happy she got out of Scientology and was able to rebuild her life for the better.
Thanks Andrew , love your podcasts 🙏Big thanks to Nora also 💥
Aw thank you so much!
Nora, your story is so sad. But you area beautiful woman for surviving it and sharing wirh others. Sending you lots of love.
Sweet Nora, the Universe is PROUD of you. Thank you for telling your story.
I love how she makes these little pauses at particularly bonkers facts and says something like "okay?" 😂
After commenting in your funny"I am a sumari" , I finished watching the rest . My heart BREAKS for what you had to endure. I, and I'm sure your wife, children, family and others are SO THANKFUL AND GREATFUL you did not get into the car that night at the hotel too. YOU GO GIRL! ❤
New subscriber here. Scientology is scary fascinating....but then so are many cults and extreme religions. Thank you for sharing all of these interviews with former Scientologists.
When you said ''Gold'' I automatically said to myself ''Always believe in your soul''
It’s been sung to me my whole life ! Haha
A commercial for Dr. Eric Berg’s channel just came on.😂
But you could say being gay is heterosexual divergent. Who cares what consenting adults do. My garden keeps getting invaded at the moment by the alpha male pheasant and his harem of ladies (I live in Costal North Norfolk), he keeps bringing the ladies into the the garden and bangs them. My cat companion sat there in the conservatory watching the deer in the wood over the field just turn to each other, then in unison ask, “Can’t they just get a room?” Who cares when it’s consenting adults. I don’t care. It’s so sad because I have friends that are so scared to show any public displays of affection, I mean hugging goodbye or hello.