I read part of one Hubbard’s books but never finished it cos I left in an airport. As a piece of science fiction I thought it was quite a good read but not exactly Isaac Asimov.
that book sat on my shelf in the 70's I never read it but I perused it and thought it was science fiction which it turned out to be after all. Utterly insane "beliefs " spouted by the worst kind of person. Dont care what people say about them helping. The roots of their fake religion are rotten. Much like the mormons. Its a CULT!
I was on the Purification Rundown when I was involved in Scientology in 1982. Along with high dosages of vitamins, we were also taking high dosages of niacin. The niacin made my skin turn bright red like I had the worst sunburn. I paid nearly a thousand dollars for the Purification Rundown. That's a fraction of the cost of what they charge for the therapy they call 'auditing'. By 1988 I finally came to my senses and quit Scientology. I applaud people like Andrew Gold, Aaron Smith-Levin, Leah Remini, Mike Rinder and so many others for exposing this money making and mind controlling cult.
FWIW, niacin is Vitamin B3. Normal side effect of larger doses are the “niacin flush” redness, tingling of face, neck and chest”. However larger doses can cause diarrhea, easy bruising, and can increase bleeding from wounds. Even higher doses of 3,000 mg/day or more can cause nausea, vomiting, and liver damage.
What in the name of hades is your user name about? Are you trolling? Because if you really left Scientology all those years ago, and THEN fell for the Orange conman, you need to reassess your ability to discern bs from reality. I'm saying this as truthfully and with the least amount of vitriol as I can.
In the 1970s there was a niacin overdosing trend. I hated the way it made me feel and the flushing was especially unpleasant. The reason that one of my friends did it was because he was a surfer and it would make him feel warm in the water of the Pacific Ocean. 🌊🪸
I sincerely hope this will bring Scientology to its knees. There are people there being held against their will and being cruelly disciplined if they get out of line for something simple.
I have boycotted Tom Cruise movie's when he supports a cult that hurts children. Promotes illegal child labor laws and a cult that endorses criminal activity and abused their IRS tax exemption status.
@@dianechristie6841 - That certainly should happen but very unlikely. The Christian cult totally dominates the United States government and they would view it as a threat to have the government start pulling other cults “religions” tax status.
Totally agree but do you think scientology has people in power that wouldn't touch him? It's like the Catholic Church in Ireland back in the day where they would just move the priests around the country, the Vatican knew what was going on..... So did the police but the church ruled Ireland at the time, thankfully we have now separated church from state.
@@katherina7741 they move/moved the priests around in the US also. There's a movie called "Spotlight" about the Boston Globe exposing the Boston Archdiocese in 2001/2. You are fortunate to division of church and state because the US has been destroying that part of the constitution for several years now because of the religious right.
They shouldn't have tax exempt status anyway. The only reason they got it was because they harassed the IRS with frivilous lawsuits until the cried uncle. And that's bullshit. They are NOT a religion.
Listening to you talk about children brought up in these cults puts me in mind of a family i knew. The daughter was my age, 16, and a total rebel that wouldnt go along with it. Her older brother 17 was such a lovely person and quietly did as he was told which meant standing on street corners handing out the watchtower magazine in our small town. It was painful to observe him being ridiculed by his peers. The end result of this was when he hung himself before the age of 18. Im almost 80 now and still cant get past the horror of what that religion and his father enforced on him. RIP dear Russell.😢
@@michael-4k4000 Like all churches, corruption abounds. Bigotry and brain washing abounds. When I was younger I took an I Q test with them. When I was a kid , I took the test 3 times and my results were 157. The scientology I. Q. test said I was 144 but in time I could increase it through them. I thought I was either getting dumber or they were manipulating me.
They should definitely add Shelley Miscavige to the lawsuit so they have to produce her for at least a deposition, or explain where the hell she is. About time Scientology is held to the same criminal and civil laws the rest of us are.
@@joywilliams7657That would be awesome. He would have to come out of all his mouse holes and deal with life. At least for a moment. He probably has escape funds and plans in place. . . . But won’t be able to escape God’s judgment without Christ.
@@saxandvi0linsSo you knew Tom before his first wife Mimi Rogers? That’s who got him in to Scientology. But you knew him? I didn’t know him to determine his character beforehand. But I think it’s reasonable to say that both Scientology and David Miscavige have had an influence on his thinking and his 2nd and 3rd marriages.
@christoffesedao3579 listen here, if you are okay with children being molested, raped, groomed, slaves in scientology where they use a toothbrush to clean floors, eat scraps off the floor, etc. You were NEVER a good person. Use your fucking brain.
Priscilla is in pretty deep and it's terrible Lisa Marie's son Benjamin said Scientology messed him up. I think it must have attributed to his suicide. I read Lisa got out, I sure hope that's true. Is her daughter Riley ? I pray Riley will get out if she hasn't. Priscilla seems to be a dark one now.
I lived in Portland OR and had no friends or family or anybody. I got sucked into the church of Scientology there in Portland but I quit when they started encouraging me to max out my credit cards, take loans, and get more credit cards to pay for my auditing etc because I had no free cash to give the church.
What a despicable organization on so many levels. It is very important that people like you both continue to air the horrific behavior of this org. It wasn’t until Leah Remini had the strength to out what she knew about the organization that I had even heard of it Thank you to all who speak of this org. and bring light to its despicable actions.
To think I was almost pulled into their cult at the age of 16. Luckily I was too much of an independent thinker at that age already and hated anything that has to do with "group thinking"
Bravo for Katie Holmes taking her daughter and filing divorce papers under the radar. Well done, she got her baby out of there with the help of her family. They beat the great tom cruise.
@@heatherclayton-callaghan4270 No one thought a boycott against Target 🎯 , Disney and the company that makes Bud Light, would even make a dent, but they did…You might say “well, they’re still open”, but each one of those companies took billion dollar hits, and in short amounts of time. People have had enough. I don’t think anyone would join Scientology and become members if they actually knew what happens once they do. Former members that managed to escape are coming forth and telling, and it was an absolute nightmare for them. Many people have been separated from their children, parents, and siblings, and have never been able to see them again, because they managed to escape but their families stayed behind, and for some, it’s been decades, even though they’ve been trying to see them since they left.
I agree with Aaron - my son and I rewatched all the MI films over the wknd since the new one will be out soon, and anytime Cruise got super intense or was asking "...are you in or out?!", I would think of that crazy Scientology vid leading up to his award. I can no longer differentiate Tom Cruise the actor from TC the Scientologist 😔
It's so amazing how crimes like this go unnoticed because of religion or ethnicity. It's very scary all the things young people have to know about. They can't just go out and be carefree.
Go out and be carefree - kids / young people really can't be carefree just using their phones ... and with high control groups - all of which are abusive because otherwise they wouldn't have to be high control - interacting with "in" is usually a much bigger risk than to "go out".
@silvioschurig749 it sucked before phones, calm down. Kids were victimized worse before we could use phones to track them. My mom was almost kidnapped out of her front door in the 70s and the cops told her at 14 years old that if they got her, authorities never would have found her. Trafficking started increasing WELL before the invent of smart phones. And that's the point, not whatever you're on about.
@@candynickel i am extremely calm and i am not claiming all the meadows were greener in the past. I only replied to the "go out" thing the op stated, and that the whole out=danger thing is nonsense.
It hasn't been hidden. I've know for many years about them. If you leave this cu😢ù🎉😢lt, the hunt you down and kill you. Tom cruise and John Travol🎉🎉_,,,😂🎉ta do not 😢😢😢😢😢know everything. Tom cruise is the worst. He praises them so much. He's so up the totem pole, his narcissistic attitude never could see what is really going on. Joseph Smith was outed for talking to some kind of reptile. I think a salamander. He supposedly has a long discussion and he organizes the cult. That was in the news. I don't understand how people fall for this garbage. Priscilla left Lisa Marie with them, to handle her. It didn't work out. Lisa Marie got out. That was one big rift between Lisa Marie and her greedy mother But, it's been known
This is not a crime by a “religious” organization…Scientology only calls itself a religion or even a church for tax exemption status and to sound legitimate. It’s an ORGANIZATION and nothing more. It has nothing to do with God, the only god in the organization, to loyal members, is David Miscavedge, AND the late founder of Scientology (his first name was Lafayette ) but he’s better known as L. Ron Hubbard. Hubbard admitted he got the idea from Alister Crowley who wanted nothing to do with God, and suggested the best way to get rich quick was to start a FALSE religion, and that’s what Hubbard did.
Makes me wonder how much good could be done if Scientologists and other people in high-control orgs used all that energy and hard work for education, starting legit businesses, inventing things, research, working at things they want to do, spending time with your kids (which Scientology seems to hate), etc.?
Evil is not easy to reform if that is possible at all. Old habits have to be discarded and a "new self" has to be courageously faced for a new beginning. Neither wisdom nor courage is usually present in twisted minds and criminals. Humility is too frightening a prospect for the typical narcissist sociopath.
Andrew, I have to tell you....when you said "Mission Impossible 37" I nearly spit out my coffee from laughing so hard!!😂 Loving your channel, sending good vibes from 🇨🇦
It would nice to actually see a cult begin and end in our lifetime, and for it to get totally called out for what it has been. Let alone the billion year contracts that make SO much sense *lol*.
I mean..... We have seen many begin in currently living people's lifetime, and we have seen some even end. Most of those unfortunately that have ended, have ended it in a bad way (ie. drinking kool-aide or Waco). The end of NEXIUM was a good victory in the battle against cults (although still some follow Keith Rienery from behind bars). Although it won't happen, I hope to see not a single new cult start in the rest of all of our, and all of the current ones brought to an end.
I was approached by a recruiter in the mid 70's in Portland, OR, really nice guy, which then led me to their office for a survey of my personality. Did not know anything about this organization. But got a bad vibe with the interviewer and didn't go any further. Kind of rattled me a bit. But discernment, even at my young age, saved me from this place, and they from me, I was just a poor college kid.
I got "honey potted" on Hollywood Blvd when I was a teen back in '02. Skipped out on the second personality test because I had to make curfew. She said "What's your phone number? We'll call your dad and let him know where you are." and I started laughing and told her that the last thing she wanted to do was tell my dad where I was! lmao Those tests were wild though
Similar happened to me in Sydney. I was nabbed literally at their front door step. When I realised where I was I ran from there so fast I couldn't be seen for dust. With someone calling after me to come back and just hear them out. SO glad I had the sense to run away and stay away. Ye gods.
@@ulpuniemi7276I was at the weekly outdoor market. I noticed a stall that was offering stress tests and I was immediately nervous. There were 4 teen girls doing the tests. The 2 women running the stall wore white shirts and black skirts. I stood very close and heard the women tell the girls that they could have free stress reduction classes. I immediately said "girls, please don't listen, those women are part of a cult called Scientology". The girls stepped back as I told them how dangerous the cult is. The girls were horrified and left. I then ran to the nearby Town Hall and told them what happened. 2 security came back with me and asked the women if they were Scientology members. They admitted it and were told to pack up their stall and leave. They had booked their place by calling themselves relaxation therapists. The Council asked me to give a written statement, which I happily gave. Scientology uses various cover stories to sneak into events. Thankfully, we have laws to protect people against cults.
Hey guys do you know Tom Cruise is in Australia atm promoting his new movie. The way our media fawn over him is sickening and they all ignore his private life...no embarrassing questions! I wish at least one reporter would ask him Where is Shelley? Luv from Aus 👍
He practically saved Hollywood last summer with the 2nd Top Gun. He is bringing people back into theater's and will do so again this summer with the new MI. The media and rest of the Hollyweird media, reporters, critics, etc fawn over him is simply because of one reason and one reason only.... MONEY. Money is always the factor in anything in life. It's not until he stops bringing in money will he then be questioned about Scientology Again. He use to be questioned about it when he went crazy, but, did you realize after a while he shut up and stopped talking about it??? It's when he stopped preaching the Scientology nonsense and Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol(which, AGAIN, generated a ton of MONEY) came out that he fell into the good graces of Hollywood again. Always follow the Money.
Thanks to people like you, I've been able to help others see the fraud in scientology. For example, my dad said he liked them, solely because of their PR essentially. By the end of the convo, I changed his mind.
I know Nick Christensen… I was in training at Flag with him, I can see how he would be super successful in recruiting young girls into SO. He is tall and very good looking charming and flirtatious, I can totally see how he would be used to “hard” recruit. It’s surreal to hear names of people I used to know so well as part of a law suit
Why do people always conclude that the seriousness of a crime should reduce protections for the accused? The statute of limitations is there for a reason which doesn't disappear with increasing seriousness of the crime. Convicting an innocent person for a very serious crime is a tragedy in itself.
I worry for Shelley Miscavige. She’s vanished and to what extent her husband is effectively holding her under house arrest has been an issue for some time. Maybe if she was named as a defendant and had to be deposed then maybe that would give professionals the opportunity to check she’s ok.
@@pattiebee9703 In civil cases if they are both defendants then she could be directed to be deposed for her own defence and not his. It’s not necessarily about their gaining information about him. And I’m only talking about the authorities knowing that she’s ok. Marital privilege is actually also more complicated than most people know.
In any other case in the US etc, YOU WOULD HAVE TO SHOW she was OK, not take some rich guys word for it, in fact, he would be suspect no 1 to prove he did not kill her! I really do not think she's alive. I think he killed her in a fit of one of his rages and has hidden this for years, and because he is rich he's paying off many to stay away from his controlled back yard. YIKES> Common people, get to the bottom of this crap and investigate this for real!
I rarely catch the ** lives ** due to the time difference, but I really like the way you two bounce off each other and Aaron has such good information to share, it's very interesting
Blows my mind that they do nothing about Miscavige's missing wife. She has been missing.for YEARS!!!! Sloan Bella tapped into her energy and claims her body is cryogenically frozen. A crime obviously has taken place with that woman.... and nothing is done. It's disgusting.
Well, according with L. A.P.D they had interview with Shelly in person and she was alive and well so ... I don't know . Maybe , that rumor should be put to end ? 😂
What happened to Shelly Miscavige the wife of the current Scientology leader missing without trace for nearly 16 years After enraging the current leader why has nothing been done to locate her
You don't honestly think scientology got to where it is without knowing how to bribe, influence, blackmail, and trade favor do you? Nothing is going to happen to the people at the top of scientology. Like most shitty people throughout history they'll die comfortably in their beds in the lap of luxury. I'm honestly starting to believe that lots of our modern political pushes have scientology behind the scenes steering it.
Woohoo 🎉 You 2 are real, balanced and ever so watchable 😊🙅♀️🙋♀️ I have nothing to do with Scientology... but am fascinated by machinations of this Cult. And the more exposure... the better‼️ Honestly... A-Aron's intro hooked me in the beginning... and sealed it when I heard his honest laugh 😃 😀 😄 Love your shows fellas.. Hi 🙋♀️ from Vancouver 🇨🇦🤷♀️🙅♀️💕 Barbara, retired chemistry technologist 🐝
Two decades ago the local chapter of Scientology used to "mass leaflet" our local fresh food market here in Adelaide (owner operated fresh food stalls, basically). It's a great precinct which includes our local Asian fresh and dry groceries also. I would pass through there three times a week in those days, on my way to buy groceries, very affordable. I often saw large piles of Scientology pamphlets in places where people would sit to drink take away coffee. I had a lot of fun scooping up a ton of these leaflets and tossing them in the recycle bin as I went. Multiple times each week for quite a few years. Very satisfying! It must have been puzzling for those who kept replacing this stuff, but were not getting any new recruits out of it!
When i was a youngster l met a lady and her little daughter who were out feeding the birds and when the lady told me they were JWs i asked her why they go knocking on doors. She told me if i knew a house was burning down wouldn't i want to warn the people inside. So i guess that's the sort of inspiration they have.
I paused the video to feed the dog and cat. I looked when I came back and I’d caught the moment both of you had great big laughing smiles on your face! Loved it! ❤️❤️
I just heard Aaron saying that he never sold a book and it hits me that in my over 30 years of being a paying public I once sold a Dianetic book and I remember that I felt that I was fooling him selling a lie although I tried to convince myself I did the right think. Now I can say I’m so glad I only sold one!
As a former Christian, I recall pastors encouraging female members of the church to bring their men to church. I never knew about the Honey Pot term, but I viewed what the pastor doing as mechanism to increase ichurch attendance. It’s similar to ladies night at the club.
Don't hold your breath. The devil is real and his dirty dealings to divide and conquer? Very very real. The minute the bp oil well on rockall off the coast of northern Ireland runs dry? Only then will you have a running chance at reunification. Scientology? It's an arm of satans satanic regime of mind control, money gathering, power and control, their way or no way, fracture men, women and children. Satan got booted out of heaven and hates humanity with a passion. He promises wealth, power, beauty, anything you want! Koff koff. One question...did you ask the cost,.price to your holy soul? He is a master of mind control. Master of disguise in appearance. Father of lies. Murder. Death. Chaos. Antichrist. Perpetual war, hatred, depression, sickness, and on. The difference? GOD. Peace, joy, hope, health, divine providence, gentleness, family, unity, happiness, light. Prosperity in all you do.
Dont feel bad, i havent bothered to watch a Tom Cruise movie since Rainman. Even when I can watch the movies for free...In most cases I try to seperate an artist art from their lives, but when they publicly promote destructive organizations, i just can't support them anymore.
@Pea_Green yea, I get that Tom Cruise's issues are nowhere near as awful as someone like Marion Zimmer Bradley, but I still think he's so Gung ho on Scientology because he's so narcissistic! Miscavage definitely found the button on Tom. Just fluff his ego, and treat him like he's royalty and he'll never leave. Ugh! 🙄
I also ignore anything hes involved with after I saw him connected to this criminal org. of scam artists, when I did see a Mission improbable flick it was corny and contrived.Back to hopping on my couch. thanks
Hooray for you. You must never see any of the movies coming out of Hollywood. The entire city is full of criminal activity. Pedophelia, sexism, unpunished shootings and murder, blacklisting actors and actresses, all living in a Hollywood bubble who despise the public who pay them to lie on camera. Get off your high horse and shut the fuck up.
Every citizen pays tax. Religions, churches & cults should not be tax exempt. Full stop. Citizens go to jail if they commit crimes. Church leaders and members should go to jail. Full stop.
I knew what he meant by “honeypot” from the context but it has a very different connotation to me. There’s a company in my area that rents out portable outhouses for construction sites, festivals, etc. They’re called Honeypots.
Hi Andrew, I found you through Cults to Consciousness and really enjoyed your discussion with Shalise. This ep with Aaron was great as well. I will check out more of your content. Thank you!
I just subscribed to your UA-cam channel and to the podcast I am now following you on as well. Keep up the great work Andrew and keep exposing the terrible and disgusting things that “organized religion “ is doing.
Andrew, once again your hair is looking so fly -- you are follicularly blessed. Anyway, good covering of this very timely issues. You and Aaron are doing the Lord's work -- I know you don't hold to any deist beliefs, but I think you know what I mean. Well done you!
I used to think Tom Cruise was this amazing person and handsome. After I heard what he did to Katy Holmes when she was giving birth I can’t look at him without feeling completely revolted. Yuck. What a horrible excuse for a human.
I bought a used copy of Hubbard's paperback on Scientology from the 1970s. I started but couldn't finish it. All I could think was " this is hogwash".
. . . and the fact it was a joke bet . . . disgusting that he bet he could create a religion. (and succeed!!) 🤮🤮🤮🤮
Only good for toilet paper
I had a copy too. I think i got through 10-15 pages. Yawn..
I read part of one Hubbard’s books but never finished it cos I left in an airport.
As a piece of science fiction I thought it was quite a good read but not exactly Isaac Asimov.
that book sat on my shelf in the 70's I never read it but I perused it and thought it was science fiction which it turned out to be after all. Utterly insane "beliefs " spouted by the worst kind of person. Dont care what people say about them helping. The roots of their fake religion are rotten. Much like the mormons. Its a CULT!
I was on the Purification Rundown when I was involved in Scientology in 1982. Along with high dosages of vitamins, we were also taking high dosages of niacin. The niacin made my skin turn bright red like I had the worst sunburn. I paid nearly a thousand dollars for the Purification Rundown. That's a fraction of the cost of what they charge for the therapy they call 'auditing'. By 1988 I finally came to my senses and quit Scientology. I applaud people like Andrew Gold, Aaron Smith-Levin, Leah Remini, Mike Rinder and so many others for exposing this money making and mind controlling cult.
FWIW, niacin is Vitamin B3. Normal side effect of larger doses are the “niacin flush” redness, tingling of face, neck and chest”. However larger doses can cause diarrhea, easy bruising, and can increase bleeding from wounds. Even higher doses of 3,000 mg/day or more can cause nausea, vomiting, and liver damage.
What in the name of hades is your user name about? Are you trolling? Because if you really left Scientology all those years ago, and THEN fell for the Orange conman, you need to reassess your ability to discern bs from reality. I'm saying this as truthfully and with the least amount of vitriol as I can.
In the 1970s there was a niacin overdosing trend. I hated the way it made me feel and the flushing was especially unpleasant. The reason that one of my friends did it was because he was a surfer and it would make him feel warm in the water of the Pacific Ocean. 🌊🪸
I'm glad you left.Scientology is nonsense. It's a cult To make money And is very abusive And Life destroying bless you.💔
Sick f#cks
I sincerely hope this will bring Scientology to its knees. There are people there being held against their will and being cruelly disciplined if they get out of line for something simple.
I encourage everyone to boycott Tom Cruise movies. Know that your dollars help keep the evil cult going. It matters.
I have boycotted Tom Cruise movie's when he supports a cult that hurts children. Promotes illegal child labor laws and a cult that endorses criminal activity and abused their IRS tax exemption status.
and the euro's too
The only way to hurt Scientology is to publicly out their behavior and hit them in the wallet. A billion dollar judgement would cripple them.
That would be Poetic Justice!
What would happen if they wouldn't allow him to act any more he's a money maker just think
taking away their tax exempt would destroy them.
Hit them in the wallet ? no need for a billion dollar judgement
Kill their tax exemption and you're done.
@@dianechristie6841 - That certainly should happen but very unlikely. The Christian cult totally dominates the United States government and they would view it as a threat to have the government start pulling other cults “religions” tax status.
Where do they get off calling Scientology a religion???
I don't understand why this has been going on for so many years and he is not been looked into and arrested or something? This is ridiculous.
Powerful rich people
Religious protection that's why
Totally agree but do you think scientology has people in power that wouldn't touch him? It's like the Catholic Church in Ireland back in the day where they would just move the priests around the country, the Vatican knew what was going on..... So did the police but the church ruled Ireland at the time, thankfully we have now separated church from state.
Because its America 🤣😅😆😁
@@katherina7741 they move/moved the priests around in the US also. There's a movie called "Spotlight" about the Boston Globe exposing the Boston Archdiocese in 2001/2. You are fortunate to division of church and state because the US has been destroying that part of the constitution for several years now because of the religious right.
Take away their tax exempt status.
That's the way to topple Scientology.
They shouldn't have tax exempt status anyway. The only reason they got it was because they harassed the IRS with frivilous lawsuits until the cried uncle. And that's bullshit. They are NOT a religion.
The IRS had a huge battle against them before they were determined to be a church granting their tax exempt status, IRS capitulated.
"Tax freedom" for scientology just means taxing the rest of us. Stop enforced taxation. Problem solved. 😊
Listening to you talk about children brought up in these cults puts me in mind of a family i knew. The daughter was my age, 16, and a total rebel that wouldnt go along with it. Her older brother 17 was such a lovely person and quietly did as he was told which meant standing on street corners handing out the watchtower magazine in our small town. It was painful to observe him being ridiculed by his peers. The end result of this was when he hung himself before the age of 18. Im almost 80 now and still cant get past the horror of what that religion and his father enforced on him. RIP dear Russell.😢
Scientology is actually a church not a cult. So you don’t need to worry about the church of Scientology friend
It's a massive, massive corrupt cult, and you should worry about it.
@@michael-4k4000 sorry ... still a cult
@@michael-4k4000 Like all churches, corruption abounds. Bigotry and brain washing abounds. When I was younger I took an I Q test with them. When I was a kid , I took the test 3 times and my results were 157. The scientology I. Q. test said I was 144 but in time I could increase it through them. I thought I was either getting dumber or they were manipulating me.
That is so damn sad.
They should definitely add Shelley Miscavige to the lawsuit so they have to produce her for at least a deposition, or explain where the hell she is.
About time Scientology is held to the same criminal and civil laws the rest of us are.
Npp
I think (and hope) that Shelly will be the end of David Miscavige and once he goes that’s it.
@@joywilliams7657That would be awesome. He would have to come out of all his mouse holes and deal with life. At least for a moment. He probably has escape funds and plans in place. . . . But won’t be able to escape God’s judgment without Christ.
Great idea I hope they do that!!!!
@@christoffesedao3579there's no such thing as god. Greatest orchestrated deception.
I’d cheer to see the end of Scientology!
I agree that Scientology has changed Tom Cruise. Negatively for certain.
He was never a good person. It never changed him. This was him.
@@saxandvi0linsSo you knew Tom before his first wife Mimi Rogers? That’s who got him in to Scientology. But you knew him? I didn’t know him to determine his character beforehand. But I think it’s reasonable to say that both Scientology and David Miscavige have had an influence on his thinking and his 2nd and 3rd marriages.
@christoffesedao3579 listen here, if you are okay with children being molested, raped, groomed, slaves in scientology where they use a toothbrush to clean floors, eat scraps off the floor, etc. You were NEVER a good person.
Use your fucking brain.
He always had a GIGANTIC ego and lacked empathy. He has just gotten worse !!!
Priscilla is in pretty deep and it's terrible Lisa Marie's son Benjamin said Scientology messed him up. I think it must have attributed to his suicide. I read Lisa got out, I sure hope that's true. Is her daughter Riley ? I pray Riley will get out if she hasn't. Priscilla seems to be a dark one now.
I lived in Portland OR and had no friends or family or anybody. I got sucked into the church of Scientology there in Portland but I quit when they started encouraging me to max out my credit cards, take loans, and get more credit cards to pay for my auditing etc because I had no free cash to give the church.
What a despicable organization on so many levels. It is very important that people like you both continue to air the horrific behavior of this org. It wasn’t until Leah Remini had the strength to out what she knew about the organization that I had even heard of it Thank you to all who speak of this org. and bring light to its despicable actions.
To think I was almost pulled into their cult at the age of 16. Luckily I was too much of an independent thinker at that age already and hated anything that has to do with "group thinking"
I just can't believe either Tom Cruise or David Miscavage has enough living soul in them for real friendship.
Bravo for Katie Holmes taking her daughter and filing divorce papers under the radar. Well done, she got her baby out of there with the help of her family. They beat the great tom cruise.
Yes their just fellatio friends
Scientology being shut down? That can’t happen fast enough as far as I’m concerned.
No way will Scientology shut down, there's far TOO MUCH MONEY involved.
@@heatherclayton-callaghan4270
No one thought a boycott against Target 🎯 , Disney and the company that makes Bud Light, would even make a dent, but they did…You might say “well, they’re still open”, but each one of those companies took billion dollar hits, and in short amounts of time.
People have had enough.
I don’t think anyone would join Scientology and become
members if they actually knew what happens once they do. Former members that managed to escape are coming forth and telling, and it was an absolute nightmare for them. Many people have been separated from their children, parents, and siblings, and have never been able to see them again, because they managed to escape but their families stayed behind, and for some, it’s been decades, even though they’ve been trying to see them since they left.
Aaron has a conscience. He has a heart like yourself.
Warren Jeffs
Jimmy Saville was a nightmare
@abefroman3466 Aaron is a warrior, and is not expected to be a girly-man. I'm sure he's formidable when he needs to be.
It is time that organizations like this are banned by law and that the leaders are brought to justice.
Wtf? Bot
You mean religions?
@@jonathanpark7245 let's start with the most life-ruining ones first
@k0lpA i wonder which has ruined the most lives. Got to be one of the older ones right?
@@k0lpA that would be Scientology, worse organization out there.
Do you think David Miscavige and Tom Cruise are going down? Let me know below, and hit the like button!
Tom Cruise? Never. David M? I doubt it. Guys like him never pay the price.
Eventually
Only on each other
On going down IMO. Federal charges it’s possible. State charges no chance.
In general or on each other? BOTH in my opinion. Allegedly.
IRS can’t revoke the CoS tax exempt quickly enough and these scumbags need to be held criminal liable.
I agree with Aaron - my son and I rewatched all the MI films over the wknd since the new one will be out soon, and anytime Cruise got super intense or was asking "...are you in or out?!", I would think of that crazy Scientology vid leading up to his award. I can no longer differentiate Tom Cruise the actor from TC the Scientologist 😔
yet you support his movies?
I can’t stand to even look at his face much less watch him in a movie.
@@TheETZmom not a one 😂
He really is a completely different person from the 1st Top Gun or Risky Biz. It’s a shame. He’s Tom Cruise and he can’t get a girlfriend.
I can’t watch the movies
It's so amazing how crimes like this go unnoticed because of religion or ethnicity. It's very scary all the things young people have to know about. They can't just go out and be carefree.
Go out and be carefree - kids / young people really can't be carefree just using their phones ... and with high control groups - all of which are abusive because otherwise they wouldn't have to be high control - interacting with "in" is usually a much bigger risk than to "go out".
@silvioschurig749 it sucked before phones, calm down. Kids were victimized worse before we could use phones to track them. My mom was almost kidnapped out of her front door in the 70s and the cops told her at 14 years old that if they got her, authorities never would have found her. Trafficking started increasing WELL before the invent of smart phones. And that's the point, not whatever you're on about.
@@candynickel i am extremely calm and i am not claiming all the meadows were greener in the past. I only replied to the "go out" thing the op stated, and that the whole out=danger thing is nonsense.
It hasn't been hidden. I've know for many years about them. If you leave this cu😢ù🎉😢lt, the hunt you down and kill you. Tom cruise and John Travol🎉🎉_,,,😂🎉ta do not 😢😢😢😢😢know everything. Tom cruise is the worst. He praises them so much. He's so up the totem pole, his narcissistic attitude never could see what is really going on. Joseph Smith was outed for talking to some kind of reptile. I think a salamander. He supposedly has a long discussion and he organizes the cult. That was in the news. I don't understand how people fall for this garbage. Priscilla left Lisa Marie with them, to handle her. It didn't work out. Lisa Marie got out. That was one big rift between Lisa Marie and her greedy mother
But, it's been known
This is not a crime by a “religious” organization…Scientology only calls itself a religion or even a church for tax exemption status and to sound legitimate. It’s an ORGANIZATION and nothing more. It has nothing to do with God, the only god in the organization, to loyal members, is David Miscavedge, AND the late founder of Scientology (his first name was Lafayette ) but he’s better known as L. Ron Hubbard. Hubbard admitted he got the idea from Alister Crowley who wanted nothing to do with God, and suggested the best way to get rich quick was to start a FALSE religion, and that’s what Hubbard did.
Makes me wonder how much good could be done if Scientologists and other people in high-control orgs used all that energy and hard work for education, starting legit businesses, inventing things, research, working at things they want to do, spending time with your kids (which Scientology seems to hate), etc.?
Ah but that is the point: a psychotic narcissist paints a parallel universe that is capitalistically parasitic to the parasitic capitalism.
Evil is not easy to reform if that is possible at all. Old habits have to be discarded and a "new self" has to be courageously faced for a new beginning. Neither wisdom nor courage is usually present in twisted minds and criminals. Humility is too frightening a prospect for the typical narcissist sociopath.
@@hanagloriaedelblum5693humility is not so much a frightening thought to a narcissist, as it is a complete impossibility for them to exercise.
@@hanagloriaedelblum5693 You could start a cult called “Newself”. Sounds like a bunch of evangelical Christian bs to me.
A changed heart is needed not just the mind.
Andrew, I have to tell you....when you said "Mission Impossible 37" I nearly spit out my coffee from laughing so hard!!😂 Loving your channel, sending good vibes from 🇨🇦
Tom Cruise at 80
It would nice to actually see a cult begin and end in our lifetime, and for it to get totally called out for what it has been. Let alone the billion year contracts that make SO much sense *lol*.
You two work so well together
I mean..... We have seen many begin in currently living people's lifetime, and we have seen some even end. Most of those unfortunately that have ended, have ended it in a bad way (ie. drinking kool-aide or Waco). The end of NEXIUM was a good victory in the battle against cults (although still some follow Keith Rienery from behind bars).
Although it won't happen, I hope to see not a single new cult start in the rest of all of our, and all of the current ones brought to an end.
There all going to be exposed. GOD IS CLEANING HOUSE
yes!!
I was approached by a recruiter in the mid 70's in Portland, OR, really nice guy, which then led me to their office for a survey of my personality. Did not know anything about this organization. But got a bad vibe with the interviewer and didn't go any further. Kind of rattled me a bit. But discernment, even at my young age, saved me from this place, and they from me, I was just a poor college kid.
I got "honey potted" on Hollywood Blvd when I was a teen back in '02. Skipped out on the second personality test because I had to make curfew. She said "What's your phone number? We'll call your dad and let him know where you are." and I started laughing and told her that the last thing she wanted to do was tell my dad where I was! lmao Those tests were wild though
So creepy that you had to go through that but great you have an awesome Dad!
Similar happened to me in Sydney. I was nabbed literally at their front door step. When I realised where I was I ran from there so fast I couldn't be seen for dust. With someone calling after me to come back and just hear them out. SO glad I had the sense to run away and stay away. Ye gods.
I was a teen when they tried to get me. Just laughed and said "no thank you".
@@ulpuniemi7276I was at the weekly outdoor market. I noticed a stall that was offering stress tests and I was immediately nervous. There were 4 teen girls doing the tests. The 2 women running the stall wore white shirts and black skirts. I stood very close and heard the women tell the girls that they could have free stress reduction classes. I immediately said "girls, please don't listen, those women are part of a cult called Scientology". The girls stepped back as I told them how dangerous the cult is. The girls were horrified and left. I then ran to the nearby Town Hall and told them what happened. 2 security came back with me and asked the women if they were Scientology members. They admitted it and were told to pack up their stall and leave. They had booked their place by calling themselves relaxation therapists. The Council asked me to give a written statement, which I happily gave. Scientology uses various cover stories to sneak into events. Thankfully, we have laws to protect people against cults.
I’m today years old, and this is my first time hearing what honey potting is.
Can't wait for this trial to begin, and to see the results, and the inevitable detrimental fallout for Sci...oh yes!
Hey guys do you know Tom Cruise is in Australia atm promoting his new movie. The way our media fawn over him is sickening and they all ignore his private life...no embarrassing questions!
I wish at least one reporter would ask him Where is Shelley?
Luv from Aus 👍
He practically saved Hollywood last summer with the 2nd Top Gun. He is bringing people back into theater's and will do so again this summer with the new MI. The media and rest of the Hollyweird media, reporters, critics, etc fawn over him is simply because of one reason and one reason only.... MONEY. Money is always the factor in anything in life. It's not until he stops bringing in money will he then be questioned about Scientology Again. He use to be questioned about it when he went crazy, but, did you realize after a while he shut up and stopped talking about it??? It's when he stopped preaching the Scientology nonsense and Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol(which, AGAIN, generated a ton of MONEY) came out that he fell into the good graces of Hollywood again. Always follow the Money.
Spot on 👏👏👏@@kevinmcclintock5492
Thanks to people like you, I've been able to help others see the fraud in scientology. For example, my dad said he liked them, solely because of their PR essentially. By the end of the convo, I changed his mind.
I don’t get why people watch Cruise movies anymore. They have been the same movie for years.
I wouldn't know. I didn't watch them.
I know Nick Christensen… I was in training at Flag with him, I can see how he would be super successful in recruiting young girls into SO. He is tall and very good looking charming and flirtatious, I can totally see how he would be used to “hard” recruit. It’s surreal to hear names of people I used to know so well as part of a law suit
What I find disturbing is the US has a statute of limitations against S.A. on children.
You love both of you. Keep up the great work ❤
Why do people always conclude that the seriousness of a crime should reduce protections for the accused? The statute of limitations is there for a reason which doesn't disappear with increasing seriousness of the crime. Convicting an innocent person for a very serious crime is a tragedy in itself.
I worry for Shelley Miscavige. She’s vanished and to what extent her husband is effectively holding her under house arrest has been an issue for some time.
Maybe if she was named as a defendant and had to be deposed then maybe that would give professionals the opportunity to check she’s ok.
@@pattiebee9703 In civil cases if they are both defendants then she could be directed to be deposed for her own defence and not his. It’s not necessarily about their gaining information about him. And I’m only talking about the authorities knowing that she’s ok. Marital privilege is actually also more complicated than most people know.
In any other case in the US etc, YOU WOULD HAVE TO SHOW she was OK, not take some rich guys word for it, in fact, he would be suspect no 1 to prove he did not kill her! I really do not think she's alive. I think he killed her in a fit of one of his rages and has hidden this for years, and because he is rich he's paying off many to stay away from his controlled back yard. YIKES> Common people, get to the bottom of this crap and investigate this for real!
Yes where is she😢
Where is Shellie
Thank you for staying on the cult trail!! I saw Dyanetics ads as a child - hopefully I will see successful law suits as an older adult!
Yes! As a child, they had dyanetic book ads on Saturday morning between cartoons ! That should never have happened
Agee with you.
Major Sincere Prayers for protection and healing of the innocent and END OF EVIL!
Guaranteed GREAT POWER in prayer!
16. With a step daughter and child on the way. Poor kids, all three of them. That’s awful.
You & Aaron gonna wipe the floor with this. KEEP ON THERE NECK.❤❤❤👍🇬🇧
What does that mean exactly . . . “Keep on there (sic) neck?”.
I love when you two get together. You're friendly banter is always fun to watch and informative, too! Love you, Andrew and A-Aron!
Aaron is brilliant! Great video! Keep up the amazing work Andrew and Aaron 👏👌
I rarely catch the ** lives ** due to the time difference, but I really like the way you two bounce off each other and Aaron has such good information to share, it's very interesting
That poor young girl. How sick. Not surprised though. I know you’ll keep us updated throughout and will be sending positive thoughts to any victims.
We can only hope it’s the end of this…cult.
You both have a great sense of humor. It's very fun to watch!
Thanks Andrew & Aaron
Caroline in Australia 🇦🇺
Blows my mind that they do nothing about Miscavige's missing wife. She has been missing.for YEARS!!!! Sloan Bella tapped into her energy and claims her body is cryogenically frozen. A crime obviously has taken place with that woman.... and nothing is done. It's disgusting.
Unfortunately money talks and they are rich!…..wonder how many police have been bribed
@@cbutler9540 That's the problem.... no one has morals anymore. People do anything for money. It's incredibly SAD....
Well, according with L. A.P.D they had interview with Shelly in person and she was alive and well so ... I don't know . Maybe , that rumor should be put to end ? 😂
@@iwontbebeat7111 Yeah that sounds like paid off bullshit.
Well LAPD said the fingerprints were inconclusive as being here’s and the picture was a photo of her drivers license
Start a CLASS ACT lawsuit with ALL the people who left!
What happened to
Shelly Miscavige the wife of the current Scientology leader missing without trace for nearly 16 years
After enraging the current leader why has nothing been done to locate her
Could DM. go to prison for kidnapping Shelly? I would think her being missing for so long could be considered kidnapping.
Who says she is missing? Just because we don't know where she is that doesn't mean she has been kidnapped.
Or murder
I think she is perhaps in hiding from the scientologists
You don't honestly think scientology got to where it is without knowing how to bribe, influence, blackmail, and trade favor do you?
Nothing is going to happen to the people at the top of scientology. Like most shitty people throughout history they'll die comfortably in their beds in the lap of luxury.
I'm honestly starting to believe that lots of our modern political pushes have scientology behind the scenes steering it.
I am thinking that Shelley has been suppressed( Scientology term) Those people are scary.
Woohoo 🎉
You 2 are real, balanced and ever so watchable 😊🙅♀️🙋♀️
I have nothing to do with Scientology... but am fascinated by machinations of this Cult. And the more exposure... the better‼️
Honestly... A-Aron's intro hooked me in the beginning... and sealed it when I heard his honest laugh 😃 😀 😄
Love your shows fellas..
Hi 🙋♀️ from Vancouver 🇨🇦🤷♀️🙅♀️💕
Barbara,
retired chemistry
technologist
🐝
Bless you both. The hope you give those trapped in whatever cult they happen to be in is truly the work of Saints.
Two decades ago the local chapter of Scientology used to "mass leaflet" our local fresh food market here in Adelaide (owner operated fresh food stalls, basically). It's a great precinct which includes our local Asian fresh and dry groceries also. I would pass through there three times a week in those days, on my way to buy groceries, very affordable. I often saw large piles of Scientology pamphlets in places where people would sit to drink take away coffee. I had a lot of fun scooping up a ton of these leaflets and tossing them in the recycle bin as I went. Multiple times each week for quite a few years. Very satisfying! It must have been puzzling for those who kept replacing this stuff, but were not getting any new recruits out of it!
When i was a youngster l met a lady and her little daughter who were out feeding the birds and when the lady told me they were JWs i asked her why they go knocking on doors.
She told me if i knew a house was burning down wouldn't i want to warn the people inside.
So i guess that's the sort of inspiration they have.
I paused the video to feed the dog and cat. I looked when I came back and I’d caught the moment both of you had great big laughing smiles on your face! Loved it! ❤️❤️
Love it when you guys get together! Thank you for all you both do every day.❤
I do enjoy you 2 together.
This is Trafficking children, and Tom Cruise and John Travolta, being involved make my stomach turn, I boy cot all their shows
You guys are great together! Keep going.
I just heard Aaron saying that he never sold a book and it hits me that in my over 30 years of being a paying public I once sold a Dianetic book and I remember that I felt that I was fooling him selling a lie although I tried to convince myself I did the right think. Now I can say I’m so glad I only sold one!
Andrew, your facial expressions while you interview guests are perfect!
Great discussion- thank you Andrew and Aron 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇦🇺
I subscribed to both of you immediately after one of your interviews like this one. You guys a refreshing. Thanks for your work. 🙏
Great job guys!!!
I’m shocked. I expected the worse and this exceeds it.
You two are always a great watch!! Great inside look at the COB & Cruise. Great questions from Andrew & great responses from A-Aron!!
As a former Christian, I recall pastors encouraging female members of the church to bring their men to church. I never knew about the Honey Pot term, but I viewed what the pastor doing as mechanism to increase ichurch attendance. It’s similar to ladies night at the club.
I've read what the Scientologists believe. I'm amazed that some people see that and say, "Hey yeah, this makes complete sense!"
Always great when you guys get together;
I hope to live to see the reunification of Ireland and the end of Scientology. Got about 30 years left in me.
I hope you see both
Don't hold your breath. The devil is real and his dirty dealings to divide and conquer? Very very real. The minute the bp oil well on rockall off the coast of northern Ireland runs dry? Only then will you have a running chance at reunification.
Scientology? It's an arm of satans satanic regime of mind control, money gathering, power and control, their way or no way, fracture men, women and children. Satan got booted out of heaven and hates humanity with a passion. He promises wealth, power, beauty, anything you want! Koff koff. One question...did you ask the cost,.price to your holy soul? He is a master of mind control. Master of disguise in appearance. Father of lies. Murder. Death. Chaos. Antichrist. Perpetual war, hatred, depression, sickness, and on.
The difference? GOD. Peace, joy, hope, health, divine providence, gentleness, family, unity, happiness, light. Prosperity in all you do.
Where is Shelly Miscavige? Most of us will not watch a Tom Cruise movie until she is found and seen.
Andrew for your attempt at South Philly accent, in addition to all of your crimes against any American accent, 5 trillion points from Gryffindor!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Omg I love Aaron's chuckle, it is so infectious🤣
"My job was to give it to them" qoute Aaron Smith-Levin 12:45
Great content! Cheers.
Fantastic interview guys! 👏😊
Hey guys, long time no see. Happy to catch up a bit!
First time I am listening and felt that you should not take it for granted that we know or understand Scientology.
Dont feel bad, i havent bothered to watch a Tom Cruise movie since Rainman. Even when I can watch the movies for free...In most cases I try to seperate an artist art from their lives, but when they publicly promote destructive organizations, i just can't support them anymore.
High Five! I haven't watched a Tom Cruise movie since Rainman either. I agree with your thinking.
@Pea_Green yea, I get that Tom Cruise's issues are nowhere near as awful as someone like Marion Zimmer Bradley, but I still think he's so Gung ho on Scientology because he's so narcissistic! Miscavage definitely found the button on Tom. Just fluff his ego, and treat him like he's royalty and he'll never leave. Ugh! 🙄
I also ignore anything hes involved with after I saw him connected to this criminal org. of scam artists, when I did see a Mission improbable flick it was corny and contrived.Back to hopping on my couch. thanks
He gives me the creeps
Hooray for you. You must never see any of the movies coming out of Hollywood. The entire city is full of criminal activity. Pedophelia, sexism, unpunished shootings and murder, blacklisting actors and actresses, all living in a Hollywood bubble who despise the public who pay them to lie on camera. Get off your high horse and shut the fuck up.
this is completely insane!
Every citizen pays tax. Religions, churches & cults should not be tax exempt. Full stop. Citizens go to jail if they commit crimes. Church leaders and members should go to jail. Full stop.
Very interesting ....once i got to watch the whole show! Thanks Andrew!
I knew what he meant by “honeypot” from the context but it has a very different connotation to me. There’s a company in my area that rents out portable outhouses for construction sites, festivals, etc. They’re called Honeypots.
I missed the first 20 mins but wow guys catch up awesome. Fantastic interview/ chat.❤❤👍👍🇬🇧
Aaron Scientology totally covered up LRH's real cause of death , so yes they do cover certain things up by lying about the cause
OUTSTANDING!
Aaron is a fantastic well of information, he is very easy to listen to, he always out does the interviewer.
Why is Scientology tax exempt? They’re a business.
Love that bribe subscribing now. I love listening to you two
"Mission" (s), accomplished, Andrew. Even a comment...Love your work.
How intelligent people become a Scientologist is a testiment to the power of suggestion and mind control.
Hi Andrew, I found you through Cults to Consciousness and really enjoyed your discussion with Shalise. This ep with Aaron was great as well. I will check out more of your content. Thank you!
Any institution that uses abbreviations is shady as hell
I just subscribed to your UA-cam channel and to the podcast I am now following you on as well. Keep up the great work Andrew and keep exposing the terrible and disgusting things that “organized religion “ is doing.
Three words. Tax exempt, cults.
Andrew, once again your hair is looking so fly -- you are follicularly blessed. Anyway, good covering of this very timely issues. You and Aaron are doing the Lord's work -- I know you don't hold to any deist beliefs, but I think you know what I mean. Well done you!
“Follicularly blessed”😂 🤣
Great smile too🥰
But spirit shines the most🤗
Aaron should not exclude the possibility of ANOTHER country bringing charges against Miscavige that could turn into a conviction.
Fantastic chat and great listen :)
Sure hope this corrupt organization goes down.
I used to think Tom Cruise was this amazing person and handsome. After I heard what he did to Katy Holmes when she was giving birth I can’t look at him without feeling completely revolted. Yuck. What a horrible excuse for a human.