Transatlantic on a Gunboat 68 | Part 2
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2022
- Last week we left Shayne on a rather pleasant trip from Antigua across the Atlantic Ocean on his way to Toulon in France.
This week shows the transition to North Atlantic conditions and the crew are slowed down considerably after hitting something in the water and smashing the rudder blade and rudder box!
Luckily or (unluckily!) Shayne has been in this situation once before on a Transatlantic and while it is not something that is enjoyable to experience (even once) the problems it produces are not unsurmountable and he is able to remove the rudder and continue sailing. The plan now is to head to the Azores where they will be able to source materials to repair the rudder box and find a replacement rudder blade.
We've also got a bit on tech talk on slave rings thrown in for your dose of yachting nerdiness.
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Did you know that there seems to be a lack of quality Gunboat 68 reviews on UA-cam? Perhaps in the future, you could create a review of the boat that showcases its unique and intriguing features.
@11:10 "Passing lots of boats going the same way we are. Must be a race or something." In the category of things you can say while on a Gunboat.
haha! yep!
Thanks for sharing !
You're welcome
youngbarnacles! Love it!pro footage,ese ya!!📢
Another Atlantic crossing with one rudder.
We're passing a lot of boats.
Now you're just showing off !!
😂😂
I saw the wheels outboard on the hulls and assumed you were aboard 'fling, then I saw the big 6804 on the sail. Thanks for the video.
Haha! Well spotted 😉
@@youngbarnacles I should have realized the hull colour was wrong. What do you think of the outboard helms in the context of cruising?
In conjunction with inside helm, this configuration is fantastic ☺️👍
Very interesting steering / rudder system on that Gunboat. Solid hit. Sad to see a nice bit of carbon art trashed. Does Gunboat keep spares (rudder and box) in stock? or do they need to build them for ya'll? Would love to see photos of the rudder box / cassette system after its repaired.
None in stock they are built to order
Great video! At approx 7 minutes into video with single rudder you had headsail and no mainsail at all up. Sorry if it is a dumb question but would you not want some mainsail up to help balance the sails to make it easier on the single rudder and autopilot? Not a criticism but just curious. Thanks!
Not a silly question at all. In this scenario we had just reduced sail from 3rd reef. This boat does not have a 4th reef like Paikea so we had to run no mainsail. As it was a downwind situation it was ok to run like this.
Nice video and a nice feel for how the boat goes. How many crew for the delivery? I'm also curious about the load on the furler line. Why wouldn't they just fit a big rope clutch rather than always carrying it on the winch?
5 crew for delivery
The furling line is continuous therefore we can't get it into a clutch. All the furlers are removable so we can't splice it into clutch either. The solution is to put 2 cam cleats into the combing to hold them while sail is furled. It's on the boat's "to do" list
@@youngbarnacles Spinlock Open ZS Jammer? Body opens to drop a line in and then snaps closed. But I bet you've already thought of that!
what are you filming with and what do you use to stop the wind noise
GoPro 8. Just stuck rycote wind jammer stickers over the gopro microphone.
9:33 lol ghosts from the Santa Maria know witchcraft when they see it
Last time i was there , early 70s Azorian Brandy a pound a bottle & had a great day out on a oared powered whale boat , Did you see what you hit ?
Azorian brandy! Sounds like good stuff
Hi! Should what you've hit got the saildrive it'd have been a different story, right? The only boat I've seen where you can replace the rudder without getting wet is the Seawind 1600. Maybe more manufacturers should consider this nowadays, be it for the debris or also thanks to orcas... I also believe there'd better be a turn into driveshafts too. At least for bluewater sailboats.
Thank God everything went well. Fair winds!
A gunboat 66 (Moondoggie, not sure about others) has a rudder that can be lifted out without getting wet. You can also lift them part way for shallow water.
Yes, it would have been a very different story if we hit the saildrives.
In terms of the rudders- the Gunboat's main feature is the retractable rudder. There are many other cats that use this system too.
Seawind attempted to do the same but their efforts fell far short in the execution of this concept.
@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus that's great!
Yes, the saildrives on these Gunboat catamarans are indeed the biggest turnoff. I don’t understand why did VPLP opted for the saildrives on these uber expensive cats when a high quality aquadrive coupling and shaft system would’ve made these yachts way safer on long offshore passages.
Unfortunately the oceans are full of all sorts of debris including partially sunk sea containers which probably constitute the worst nightmare for the sailing community, especially if they’re hiding just a few feet under the surface and can’t be seen even during the daylight hours.
Saildrive?
any idea what you hit to do rudder damage? whale maybe? logs submerged way middle n. atlantic low probaility right?...
We do know what we hit but as I'm sure you're aware we work professionally in the industry and although we can share a lot with you all on UA-cam we can't share everything. Suffice to say the problem was sorted once we arrived in the Azores and a big shoutout to Gunboat who looked after logistics and ensured repairs went smoothly.
@@youngbarnacles carry on capt!
@@youngbarnacles I am not a sailor, just an admirer. Therefore, I’m not sure why you cannot share what you hit because you work professionally? If it’s flotsam what is the harm in mentioning that? I’ve heard of underwater/sleeper containers, and heard about orcas and whales that either are hit or hit you. Is it an insurance thing? Again, I don’t understand the need to not be transparent. 🤷♂️ (Still, that’s got to suck … and be a bit disconcerting, especially since it’s not your first experience. Makes me question how much trash is floating about in our oceans. Sad thought.)
I thought there are spare rudder blades in the bow storage on the 68!
Nope. That's completely up to each individual owner. There's enough room in there tho 😉
@@youngbarnacles 👍🏽 I saw them once in the bow storage, I thought it’s standard. Makes sense if so.
Did you deploy the racing W&S, if so, what did you think of it?
🤔 W&S? Please explain?
Watt&Sea hydrogenerator
Ah copy that. Nope didn't use it on this boat but have used it on another. It took a lot of sorting out to get the advertised performance out of it.
Was the loss of the rudder obvious this time? (It seems like last time, going westerly, it took you a few hours to realize it)
Any idea what you may have struck?
Yes we knew we had hit something. Went went from 12 kts to nothing very quickly.
We do know what we hit but as I'm sure you're aware we work professionally in the industry and although we can share a lot with you all on UA-cam we can't share everything. Suffice to say the problem was sorted once we arrived in the Azores and a big shoutout to Gunboat who looked after logistics and ensured repairs went smoothly.
@@youngbarnacles hi. What exactly could you hit in the middle of the ocean?
@@LesiavanderWoman probably a shipping container, or could have been a 🐳, more likely the former.
Nice video, but first viewer get free advise. Jeanneau 53, Bavarie 51 or Beneteau 58? Cannot afford Pegasus 50...
get a catamaran instead
Get the boat that fits your budget and fills your needs.
Hi, you didn’t mention what you thought may have hit the rudder to cause the damage…
We do know what we hit but as I'm sure you're aware we work professionally in the industry and although we can share a lot with you all on UA-cam we can't share everything. Suffice to say the problem was sorted once we arrived in the Azores and a big shoutout to Gunboat who looked after logistics and ensured repairs went smoothly.
@@youngbarnacles I don't understand what you are saying. Can you explain without betraying anything you can't say? Why can't you say if you have hit a container or a whale...Is it because of insurance?
@@tonewreck1the US Navy would be hit with heavy fines if one if our ships struck a whale. i don't in know if its the same for civilian boats. he said he hopes he never sees anything like that again..im not sure if it was because of the visusl aftermath or simply the stress of losing a rudder.
I'm interested in purchasing my first catamaran, after owning several mono hulls. My impression of cats in the past was big, slow, and underpowered in the sail department. I've narrowed down my choices to the Gunboat, and the Outremer I have two questions about the Gunboat, can you install a Watt & Sea pod 600 on both hulls and can you option two seats and tillers on the stern?
Yes but be aware that to own and operate a Gunboat you would need crew whereas an Outremer is not as necessary
@@youngbarnacles Looks like it's the Outremer them, I'm not interested in a crew just friends and family.
@@youngbarnacles Thanks for the quick response.
No worries
@@youngbarnacles Enjoying your videos... I've been looking at Gunboats (updated) website - they are now offering a 70'er and one of the bullet points says "a breeze to sail - even short handed"... LOL I wonder what gunboat's definition of Short Handed means...
Horta ?
Correct!
Slave ring. Why not just use a clutch?
We have a Gunboat 68 debrief video this week that hopefully answers this question 👍
Too many Umm's and Arrh's. .... Painful.
Does being an "expert" in sailing with broken rudders go well on your resume mate?🤣
😆 yeah not the area of expertise I have been wanting to gain, but you spend enough time at sea and you eventually become good at all sorts of dramas.....
I watch a video of a ketch rig mono hull leaving Hawaii that lost it's rudder 200 miles away from Hawaii and use the mizzen to steer the boat back to Hawaii ! That's seamanship !