Agean R & Flat R low noise cymbals sound comparison with drum-tec Jam NG e-drums
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- Опубліковано 16 чер 2020
- drumt.ec/agean-flat-r
Agean low noise cymbals are a great sounding choice for any low volume or hybrid e/a drum kit setup. For this demo, we've set up the Agean R series and the more recent Flat R series "side by side" for a quick sound comparison demo.
The Flat R series cymbals have no cup as their name indicates, soundwise they have a little less "body", less overtones and a shorter sustain than the regular R series, which makes them even more silent in practice. They are handmade in Turkey from B20 Bronze just like the R series.
The cymbals were mic'ed up with a pair of studio standard overhead microphones & recorded with a Roland audio interface into Logic Pro Audio without any further mixing/editing.
You can find all Agean R & Flat R cymbal models, as well as the drum-tec Jam electronic drums and ATV xD3 sound module from the demo setup here in our online shop:
www.drum-tec.com/cymbals/agea...
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Video shot @ drum-tec West / Spytunes Recording Studio, Mainz. Drumming & production by www.ralfschumacher.eu
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It'd be super sweet to see more videos of these with other modules, maybe with different mic configurations etc. I'm hooked on this video 😂
Great ! thanks ! Indeed flats are less aggressive than the classic R, it makes them a good option volume wise between classic R and L80
Hi Phil, absolutely :) Kind regards!
One more great option for low volume cymbals... Nice video btw
I love that groove! great video as always!
cheers from france.
Merci Guilhem! :)
They sound very good to me.
Zultan came out with their Mellow line of low volume cymbals. Something to try?
Is there really that much of a difference in volume between the R and Flat-R cymbals? I don't hear a drastic difference in the video... maybe only slightly?
I absolutely love the sound of R's. My biggest concern is ear fatigue... I currently practice with the L80s and Arborea B8 Mutes, and I can easily play those cymbals without having to use hearing protection. Would that be reasonable with the Agean R cymbals? Or are they loud enough that playing them for an hour or so could cause ear fatigue?
Very good..!!
Thank you Massimo! :)
Hello Drumtec, appreciate yours for comparison and the coolest drummer I have ever seen.
I want to buy partly agean R and agean flat R cymbals, question: Can I mix them together or do you recommend only one series for home usage and recordings as well?
And as for overhead mics, will it be in proper way to use oktava MK-012-01 pair of stereo mics I mean...
Hey Tony, thank you very much! There's no problem mixing regular & flat R series, the flat R series are great for a little more "trashy" crash sounds for example. And the Oktavas should deliver a very good overhead sound, they have a great price/quality ratio :) kind regards!
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Very well, thank you for recommending!
Great video, really helped me with making my purchase decisions - on their web sight it says the flat series is extra quiet, is it a noticeable difference between ? Always great videos - thanks from Australia
Thank you Brett! The flat R series may be considered a little more silent, as they have less "body/tone" and decay to them than the regular R series. Kind regards!
@@drumtecTV thank you so much again for your tips and advice, I have another unusual one - thanks to your videos I got a full set of Ageans and am loving them, but mic’ing them I am having a lot of bleed from the mesh drums, how do you adjust the bleed into your overheads? Also, would you recommend mic’ing under the cymbal to compensate? Again thanks from Australia
Great video. It'd be nice to hear how the actual noise compares to rubber cymbals :)
Hey Lorenzo, coming up next ... ;)
Thanks for comparison, interesting to know what are overhead microphones you use in this video?
Hey Tony, it was a pair of studio standard beyerdynamic MC930, which have a very unhyped/linear frequency response to deliver a neutral sound image. Kind regards!
There is no Hi-hat for Flat version?
I’m greedy, I want both. 😁
That's absolutely the right decision :-D
How do you record these cymbals with the OH mics, and filter the ambient sound from the silent drums from? Please make a tutorial ;)
Hey Jacob, no need to filter out anything, the drum-tec pads are very silent, so the minute you bring in the module sound in the mix, you won't hear the mesh impact anymore. Kind regards!
I like R better than Flat R in my opinion based on what I watch. But could you advise if I go for R and then my neighbours will still make a fuss about it or the noise difference is not noticable to neighbours at all. Flat R or R noise DB difference won't be the issue?
Flat R are a tiny little bit more silent & have less body/sustain, but depends on your neighbours in the end ;-D you can check out this noise level comparison if you like, I think you get quite a nice impression of the different models & noise levels here:
ua-cam.com/video/0sa10UImETM/v-deo.html
Kind regards!
I feel like the flat series could be used with the regular R series cymbals for a more trashy sound, either way both sound great
Hey Jadon, yes absolutely, they make some nice "trash crash" sounds at low volumes :) kind regards!
I use an 18 flat as a trash crash. It's definitely drier and darker than the 18 natural R -- it comes in around 4 dB lower with the same effort. I use it as a substitute for a China. I also have the 18 R Natural China at it has much more overall frequency width than the 18 flat.
Hello Drumtec! Please tell me which of the series between cymbals R and Flat sounds better and quieter in your opinion?
Hey Tony, you can listen to the video with a pair of good headphones & compare! Kind regards
I’m looking to record these In my apartment with electronic ( acoustic drums with mesh heads and triggers)Will these record well and sound as good as full bodied cymbals ? Thank you !
Hey Bradley, you can hear in the video how these cymbals sound mic'ed up with a pair of overheads :) Low noise cymbals in general are a lot more silent & less "full bodied" than regular cymbals.
If you want to compare Agean R to more low noise models, you might want to check out this video too:
ua-cam.com/video/BdkTkA_GKa4/v-deo.html
Kind regards!
Would you be willing to try some stacks with the R series? The flats combined with some naturals sound like a great low noise stack :D
Sounds like a great idea! :)
@@drumtecTV that's a video I need to see
@@drumtecTV Coming back to this video from time to time, there are some stacks that would sound pretty awesome:
-8" flat splash/8" regular hihat
-10" flat splash/10" regular hihat
-14" natural crash/16" flat china
-8" flat splash/10" natural splash (flat on bottom)
-14" flat crash/16" natural china (crash on the top of china, china bell down)
There are others but these came to mind.
Have you guys had the chance to try the black "Lowest R" cymbals?
No, is that a joke I don't understand? ;)
@@drumtecTV nope, they seem to no longer be available, they were on samirmuzik but not on agean's site.
I would like to know difference between the hi hats, the "flat" are not demoed. I have the regular R set and the hi hats are the loudest. My R set does sound nice, I like'em.
It seems there are no flat hi-hats.
Hey Matt, how loud are the R series? Compared to a real cymbal
Which one is more quiet? I want to know~ Any cymbals sound is not bad
The Agean Flat R have less "body" and sustain, which makes them a little more quiet. But you can actually hear that pretty well in the demo, if you use good headphones for referencing. Kind regards!
Hi !!! any test about GEWA G9?
Hey Mario, not yet but maybe soon :) kind regards!
I want to hear the difference of these quiet ones compared to the regular ones without a mic..
Hey Troy, you can hear Agean R / Agean Hush Hush & another regular Agean series side by side here:
ua-cam.com/video/ZWNh8rx_2lw/v-deo.html
Kind regards!
The *CHINA* though
Please add Agean Flat R Low Noise China 18
I'd like to hear flat r China 18, if there any chance to make a video?
Hi Tony, there is not too much difference between 16 & 18", the bigger the louder & the more sustain the cymbals have generally speaking. Kind regards!
its like Paiste vs Zildjan
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Hi Marc, I don't understand, sorry :)