Zeitgeist CAD e-cymbals | Roland TD-27 | Toontrack EZdrummer 3
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2023
- drumt.ec/ZEITGEIST-e-cymbals
As you'll probably know, Roland have the VAD v-drums acoustic design electronic drums.
Now, Zeitgeist has the - you guessed it - CAD ACOUSTIC DESIGN e-CYMBALS 🤯🤯🤯 which bring authentic "metal" playing feel to your electronic drumkit (not only suited for metal drumming though).
The ZG CAD cymbals are available in 4 different finishes (Gold / Silver / Antique / Black), and there's plenty of different sizes / models to choose from. Needless to say, all Zeitgeist e-cymbals are 100% Roland / ATV / EFNOTE / Pearl Mimic Pro compatible.
So we've hooked up some CAD cymbals to a Roland TD-27 sound module, added the acoustic drumkit sized ZEITGEIST AD3 electronic drums, and eventually triggered some epic drum sounds from Toontrack's EZdrummer 3. Et voila: instant electronic acoustic feel epicness!
The kit setup in detail:
◾ 20" Bass drum
◾ 13" dual zone snare
◾ 10", 12" dual zone Toms
◾ 13" dual zone floor toms
Available Zeitgeist CAD cymbals:
◾ 18" / 20" 3-zone Rides
◾ 14" / 16" / 18" dual zone Crashes
◾ 16" / 18" dual zone Chinas
◾ 10" / 12" single zone Splashes
◾ 14" dual zone Hi-Hats
🔥 Need help finding the right kit? Talk to us and we'll help you: drumt.ec/kit-finder 🔥
Please comment or ask any question you might have. You can also get in touch with our service team directly through experts@drum-tec.de
Video shot @ drum-tec West / Spytunes Recording Studio, Mainz.
Drumming & production by www.ralfschumacher.eu, follow Ralf on @digitaldrumming
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I’m building my own electronic kit and those cymbals are definitely on the list. I haven’t heard anything better than those as far as loudness and quietness!
Hey Bobby, that sounds nice! Feel free to get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de for further assistance at any time. Kind regards!
Love the look and the price is really tempting. These'll be 100% what I'm getting
That's awesome! They look so cool! Definitely going to grab me a set of the black coating or antique to go with my Roland VAD black sparkle. ❤🥁
Damn Ralph! You gotta take it easy on that cymbal at 3:38! You’re acting like you’re mad at it!!! 😂
Insanely good playing as always! I am in the market for an A2E and I can’t decide between metal or rubber. I have heard of people getting wrist pain from hitting rubber cymbals, do these feel softer to hit and more like acoustic? I hit the drums pretty hard, not concerned with noise, more about the feeling and the possibility of wrist pain
Smooth as butter, like always!
Thank you Michael! 😍
These cymbals are cool af
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@@drumtecTV I also really like the look of the drums. Zeitgeist making some cool stuff!
Look and sound great!
I wonder how comparable they are to the digital Roland cymbals?
Especially the hihat should be somewhat lacking?!
Great stuff !! as usual Ralf. ... want a set of the antiques to go with my HH diabolos , do they work with a mimic ? R.
Thank you Rob! Yes they should be compatible with the PMP as they also work with Roland modules. You might get in touch with the guys through experts@drum-tec.de to double check & possibly ask them for prepared trigger settings also. Kind regards!
My drummer is using those cymbals with the 2 box Drumit 5 Mk2. Pretty good stuff, but the Open/Close phase of the hihat is very problematic until now. Do you have any setup tipps? And, btw, the TRS-mounts in the trigger-box are breaking easily. Had to re-solder them after a few weeks of use. And the ride has some problems with the separation of the bell/bow sound. All in all, a lot of bang for the buck. Even with the weak points it's still a bargain.
Hey Andreas, please get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de directly concerning your questions. Kind regards!
Now we are talking!
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I wish Ralf will have time to make a stick control technique course for beginner drummers.
Maybe one day 😁 you can follow my channel digitaldrumming to keep up with any new formats if you like:
www.youtube.com/@digitaldrumming
KInd regards!
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How did you connect all these pads to td-27 without splitters?
Hi Ralf, how does the triggering and the feel compare to Roland cymbals?
Triggering works well with the appropriate trigger settings applied, I also liked the feel especially of the Antique Finish, as these have a kind of a "coating" on top, making them just a tiny little bit more silent than the others and also giving a different playing feel that I personally liked even better than the others.
@@Ed-iw7ls Hey Ed, can't confirm this really. If you use the appropriate trigger settings, all zones work nicely without any false or double triggering (otherwise drum-tec would not be offering them actually).
I was playing some jazz & funky stuff for the demos recently (including this one actually) without any problems:
ua-cam.com/video/vJJ62YPxD-w/v-deo.html
Only question is the noise level, which might be too high for home drummers that need as silent as possible. Noise level comparison is coming up next week actually. Kind regards!
Yeah i have that problem to what ed says. What are the best settings?
@@jeffrey13316 Hey Jeffrey, if you are using ZG cymbals, please get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de to receive a table of recommended trigger settings. Kind regards!
Couple of questions:
1) How long would you expect one of these cymbals to last? I bought something similar from a different company and they didn't even last two weeks, I've contacted them and they have yet to respond 🙂
(Edit: said company are notorious for being silent to their customers)
2) I'm a bit concerned about these chipping away at drumsticks. Would it be possible to add a rubber hoop to it without affecting the triggering?
Hi, please get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de directly concerning your questions. Kind regards!
Of you're hitting sticks against the raw edge of a cymbal, you will chip away at sticks like you would on acoustic cymbals, no doubt. My best advice, get a couple of a pairs of Blackwood Carbon fibre sticks. They've lasted me years on acoustic and electric drums. They're kinda hard to get hold of. I have had to get my last bunch of pairs from a shop in Germany.
They don't feel exactly like wood sticks but I think they're really close and the advantage of them lasting so long, really is worth the slight adjustment.
Or you could just use wood sticks, but be prepared to go through them at the same rate as acoustic cymbals would with these ecymbals. Though not having metal rims on the snare will be an improvement on a standard acoustic kit with cymbals.
You could put a rubber rim on the edge of these cymbals though. Might have to only do the top as to not affect the switch sensor underneath, so some sorta light adhesive might be needed. But I'd say it can be done!
Ps. I am sure I know which company you're talking about with quick failure rate, I has the same experience a few years ago.
@@steevidrums Hello, and apologies for my late reply.
Thanks for the advice, I'll look into said sticks.
To make sure we're on the same page… umm, I was talking about some small UK-based company (I won't mention their name but I'm sure they know who they are). You dealt with them too, right?
A minus of living in Australia, man. Absurd shipping costs. Took a huge risk purchasing from said company
@@drumnotatsujin81yeah I’m sure we’re on the same page. Aw man that sucks. I was chatting to a guy out in Oz a few years ago about stuff. I gave him my Stealthdrums cymbal trigger that I bought off eBay but never used. He just paid shipping. I think he got it working, I’ve not spoken to him a while. Shame Stealthdrums finished when Jman passed. He was a force!
Have you considered GoEdrum? They’re based in Taiwan I think? Very reasonably priced too.
Hey!i'm interest to buy this ,and a millenium mps 1000 ,but ,how can you out more cymbal an tom on it ?keep rocking!
Please get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de directly regarding your questions. Kind regards!
Verdammt, jerzt muss ich mein JAM 3 umrüsten 😂
😆 haha, ein Video mit Jam 3 & CAD gab es ja sogar schon:
ua-cam.com/video/vJJ62YPxD-w/v-deo.html
Viele Grüße!
anyone try the hi-hat here and compared it to the official roland newest version? equally good in functionality/response?
Very very impressed please send info I would like to purchase
Thanks, you can find info on the cymbals and all other products on www.drum-tec.com
Feel free to get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de for further assistance and/or an individual quote on any custom kit configuration including international shipping if you like. Kind regards!
Please, if you can help me, I don't know how to install Zeingeist hi hat on my hardware?
Hello! Please get in touch with us by email: info@drum-tec.de
Looking to get this shell pack
Anyone have them? If so what do you think?
I have the TD27 just wonder if you have to tweak any settings as far as volume of the pads go
Feel free to get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de if you have any questions upfront, you'll also receive the appropriate trigger settings for your module with the purchase. Kind regards!
Do these work with the Strike Module at all ? 😮
Hey Derek, please get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de directly for questions concerning sound module compatibility. Kind regards!
How much for that kit?
Feel free to get in touch through experts@drum-tec.de for an individual quote and refer to the video if you like. Kind regards!
怎么购买这个镲
www.drum-tec.com/pads/e-cymbal-pads?p=1&o=3&n=12&s=124
Too much noise.
Yes, these are obviously louder than rubber cymbals (noise level comparison coming up next week). Yet, they offer full sound & midi flexibility in combination with acoustic playing feel & looks, which might be an appealing option for some e-drummers despite the higher noise level.
Kind regards!
Testet doch nächstes mal wirklich die cymbals und nicht die drums🙄