ranking tortured poets and FIXING the track list *controversial* 💀

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  • @theswiftologist
    @theswiftologist  6 місяців тому +70

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    • @TheDuddelle
      @TheDuddelle 5 місяців тому +7

      Love the sound of the Evolution of A Snake podcast since Riverside. Thank you.

    • @moonbunny1221
      @moonbunny1221 5 місяців тому

      Hopped on here to say we have to talk about this proliferation of toxic subreddits dedicated to Tayvis hate (r/travisandtaylor) as well as Mattyship (r/taylorandmatty) and even Joeship in the new TTPD era. I would love to hear your commentary on that! Why are there people so obsessed with and dedicated to hating Taylor or worshipping failed relationships?

    • @ambrosiawillis7459
      @ambrosiawillis7459 5 місяців тому

      I just saw a video that thank you Aimee is about karli Kloss? It's was really convincing for me 😂 😅

  • @kianna270
    @kianna270 5 місяців тому +903

    “It is an insult to say you’re so boring I had to date an idiot to feel something” LMAO that got me, literally have experienced the same thing before.

    • @jillsarah7356
      @jillsarah7356 5 місяців тому +12

      This is so it. Ppl who say Joe didn’t do anything wrong/didn’t get roasted are so wrong lol

    • @Inksplatter1991
      @Inksplatter1991 5 місяців тому +19

      ​@@jillsarah7356 I wouldn't say he got roasted. Lightly sauteed, perhaps.

    • @KateCat420
      @KateCat420 5 місяців тому +9

      ​@@Inksplatter1991 I don't know what album you listened too, but I distinctly remember hearing the gobble of a turkey in a bonfire 👀

    • @Inksplatter1991
      @Inksplatter1991 5 місяців тому +23

      @@KateCat420 She mentioned that he was sad and quiet. Her busting out of jail/bars was a metaphor for her being cooped up. She never mentioned that being with him was a bad experience. His songs were fine. I can do it with a broken heart - "I'm so obsessed with him but he avoids me like the plague". So long London - "bluest days and quiet resentment". How did it end - "He was a hot house flower to my outdoorsman". And "the black dog" was angry but it didn't mention anything damaging except Joe seems to take off after fights. You guys want to make him the villain when in actuality it was just a normal break up between an introvert and an extrovert. Sometimes different personality types make it work, sometimes they don't.

    • @kristiestiles742
      @kristiestiles742 5 місяців тому +14

      How is that Joe's fault. If you find someone soo boring well just leave, if you stay well you're actually the idiot in the scenario. One person's "boring" is another person's "fun" it's all subjective. Being a quite depressed introvert is not a crime, you don't like it well don't date some who is, it's kinda that simple that's on you-Turkey.

  • @andrewcfarmer
    @andrewcfarmer 5 місяців тому +353

    Guilty as Sin is the #1 diva in my mind and I am so happy you agree. The storytelling is so rich- the melody and build-up projects a feeling of REVELING in longing for someone, being with someone in the fantasy of one’s own mind, which is what the song is about. I enter another dimension when this song comes on.

    • @emmmma143
      @emmmma143 5 місяців тому +1

      Agreed!!! It’s been my #1 along with the black dog for different vibes/reasons since the first listen. It’s so so so good and the metaphor and production is mwah

  • @aster_3188
    @aster_3188 5 місяців тому +189

    I think How Did It End? would make a great opening track. mostly lyrically. imagine releasing an album after a breakup, people tuning in to get the tea and then starting off with that song. that would gag. and it's a beautiful song on top of being a plot twist

  • @elmaxx2177
    @elmaxx2177 5 місяців тому +373

    Standard Edition:
    1. So Long, London
    2. Guilty as Sin
    3. Fresh Out The Slammer
    4. The Alchemy
    5. But Daddy I love him
    6. The Tortured Poets department
    7. My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys
    8. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
    9. Down Bad
    10. How Did It End?
    11. Fortnight (Ft. Post Melone)
    12. imgonnagetyouback
    13. loml
    14. I Can Do It With a Broken Heart
    2 AM Edition:
    15. I Hate It Here
    16. I Look In People's Windows
    17. The Albatross
    18. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus
    19. The Black Dog
    20. The Prophesy

    • @stephiem09612
      @stephiem09612 5 місяців тому +15

      The bolter is good though

    • @youronurowndorothea7
      @youronurowndorothea7 5 місяців тому +23

      THE TORTURED POETS DEPARTMENT : 2AM EDITION (THE TIL' THE DAY EDITION)
      21. Florida!!!
      22. Who's Afraid of Little Old Me?
      23. I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)
      24. Clara Bow
      25. So High School
      26. thanK you aIMee
      27. Cassandra
      28. Peter
      29. The Bolter
      30. Robin
      31. The Manuscript

    • @ME-HE-HEE
      @ME-HE-HEE 5 місяців тому +5

      @@youronurowndorothea7 also the manuscript

    • @GrownupPhan
      @GrownupPhan 5 місяців тому +14

      I was with you until you cut The Bolter

    • @djrn1621
      @djrn1621 5 місяців тому +5

      I agree with this list!!!!!! But I need you to include Peter in the 2am edition. It’s too good!

  • @will9784
    @will9784 5 місяців тому +1659

    well yes is now permanently part of my vocabulary and i blame you i literally cant stop saying it 😭

    • @Reputation.133
      @Reputation.133 5 місяців тому +98

      Exactly , it’s engraved in my vocabulary at this point

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  5 місяців тому +416

      my imapct

    • @wohphoto
      @wohphoto 5 місяців тому +7

      Same

    • @WiglahWoo
      @WiglahWoo 5 місяців тому +107

      Same with “cricket” 😭 I keep saying it in front of my friends and they be so confused

    • @pavilova29
      @pavilova29 5 місяців тому +45

      @@theswiftologist that’s a real fkn legacy

  • @edenstar196
    @edenstar196 5 місяців тому +489

    My friend said she hears Fortnight as an outro, because the melody kind of sounds like it’s fading away. I think that’s kind of interesting.

    • @AlexeBriand2002
      @AlexeBriand2002 5 місяців тому +46

      yeah, Fortnight sonically sounds like the last track on an album. it’s hard to explain but some songs to me just sound like that lol

    • @jillsarah7356
      @jillsarah7356 5 місяців тому +24

      YES it sounds like it’s the outro for the Midnights album!!

    • @glockenspiel-ti1ms
      @glockenspiel-ti1ms 5 місяців тому +7

      I find it interesting that the manuscript also works well as a first song, maybe its in reverse or something

    • @Magfirth7900
      @Magfirth7900 5 місяців тому

      Florida should go higher in my opinion

    • @edenstar196
      @edenstar196 5 місяців тому +5

      @@Magfirth7900 Florida is a flop

  • @spameranne
    @spameranne 5 місяців тому +500

    "earblood" is really quite a lovely, somewhat horrific turn of phrase

    • @VEGAS-NERVE
      @VEGAS-NERVE 5 місяців тому +8

      Lmao I read this comment like a second before he said it and I was like "what could that possibly mean", then immediately said "well yes" 😂

  • @Alexis_Renee-ry2yk
    @Alexis_Renee-ry2yk 5 місяців тому +742

    Honestly I think Peter is important in the establishment of how matty healy acted when they were in the relationship and how he promised to fix himself for her. It helps explain the past and how Taylor has finally realized that there’s no helping a lost cause, for the “smallest man who ever lived” can never truly grow up.

    • @TheLizard199
      @TheLizard199 5 місяців тому +40

      I think what swiftologist said on the review of the album is right tho, sam or Sophia or Marcus and I can fix him covers this theme though already

    • @Gosgos666
      @Gosgos666 5 місяців тому +51

      ​@@TheLizard199 I feel like peter is more about closing the chapter definitively - like "we are never getting back together", feeling the grief of losing the relationship and idea of it, breaking the destiny's path

    • @siracastori01
      @siracastori01 5 місяців тому +3

      We'll never know that, as it should be, we get to perceive these characters as just that, characters (maybe inspired by reality, to a large or small degree, but it's irrelevant), and as far the main character of the record goes, I think it's an ode to limerence over living out the years long fantasy, but I also don't think the narrator wrote out the main character here.

    • @Rachels7777
      @Rachels7777 5 місяців тому +17

      @TheLizard199 But I Can Fix Him is basically a filler interlude, and Chloe and friends gets overshadowed by more similar songs like How Did It End and loml. Peter has a unique metaphor and conveys it stronger.

    • @hatestomakenames
      @hatestomakenames 5 місяців тому +41

      peter is definitively more impactful than either of those songs and it ties back to cardigan in a big way. i think it deserves its flowers.

  • @piscesmoon9055
    @piscesmoon9055 5 місяців тому +342

    I love your reordered track list for the standard version narratively, BUT the album ending with “try and come for my job 🤪” is sending me lol

    • @Gosgos666
      @Gosgos666 5 місяців тому +25

      for me it should be "will I always wonder?"

    • @cc1526
      @cc1526 5 місяців тому +19

      I actually love ICDIWABH as the closer, but get rid of the cringy, lack of humility in “try and come for my job.” Just go “cause I’m miserable and no one even knows… cause I CAN DO IT WITH A BROKEN HEART” and do the chorus one more time. End with “it’s an art, you know you’re good when you can even do it with a broken heart.” Music stops right on the word heart.

    • @swiflte
      @swiflte 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@cc1526 I think it's cool having that lack of humility, for me TTPD is all about her breaking character and finally starting to not care about what people think or say about her. It's her finally accepting she can be fearsome, wretched and wrong sometimes, cause she's a human like all of us (which is one of her biggest insecurities as she revealed in midnights).

  • @chelleymarie2129
    @chelleymarie2129 5 місяців тому +253

    Florida wasn’t hitting for me at first until I realized Matty is literally the personification of the “Florida man” meme/trope especially since the song itself is a metaphor for a rebound, but using Florida as the “rebound” didn’t make sense until that hit me 🤣😭

    • @bluaurora8635
      @bluaurora8635 5 місяців тому +6

      Omgggg it makes sense now crazy Matty is FL!!!

    • @Ali-gp2eq
      @Ali-gp2eq 5 місяців тому

      Thank you for this. I just didn't understand where this song fitted at all. Now it makes perfect sense.

    • @bad-girlbex3791
      @bad-girlbex3791 4 місяці тому +5

      Florida isn't a favourite for me because I really don't like Florence's voice. But lyrically it made sense to me. Florida is tornadoes and tropical storms. It's a party place full of serial killers and drug cartels and 'Florida Man' is an epic meme of a person. That was a perfect metaphor for the insanity that was getting together with a destructive person who will pull you into their orbit and 'fuck me up'. The drums are over the top and feel a bit like a hangover where your head is killing you, but it makes sense when the intensity and almost annoying vibe is compared to the experience of being with MH.

  • @v_loves_books
    @v_loves_books 5 місяців тому +276

    I went to n3 of the Paris Eras Tour shows and the TTPD set was incredible. My dad came with me and even though he isn't a Swiftie he was impressed. Also he says his favorite album is Fearless and she played Hey Stephen ( his name is Stéphane ) so I love Taylor for that

    • @bad-girlbex3791
      @bad-girlbex3791 4 місяці тому +2

      The footage I've seen online of the production of that show was actually incredible. And I loved the songs she picked from TTPD because it was hard to think of which ones would sum it up perfectly, but I think she created the exact right vibe with the ones she chose. Her outfits were gorgeous, and the effects used on the stage were brilliant. (And I'm not even a Swiftie, but I've gotten a bit obsessed with this double album, lol.)

    • @v_loves_books
      @v_loves_books 4 місяці тому +2

      @@bad-girlbex3791 yes!! The lighting and staging effects, the dancers and everything all contributed to a very impressive performance. It was incredible to witness in person.

    • @avaromeoo
      @avaromeoo 3 місяці тому

      i went to paris n3 too!! the ttpd set was truly incredible, i started sobbing as soon as she came out

  • @karenvalentino3412
    @karenvalentino3412 5 місяців тому +81

    Clara Bow is indeed understated. That’s partly why to me it’s maybe her most evocative song, using fewer words to say so much. I get such big feels out of it, maybe because I’m 71 and you don’t get to my age without experiencing many different kinds of losses. I’m sure I cried the first ten times I listened to it, first for Taylor and then for me.

    • @jillsarah7356
      @jillsarah7356 5 місяців тому +9

      It makes me cry every time.

  • @conversations_with_kara
    @conversations_with_kara 5 місяців тому +457

    one thing about me is i will always be SEATED for a swiftologist ranking & reshuffling

    • @pinkieandpie
      @pinkieandpie 5 місяців тому +3

      Oh, that's another Zachism! My boss posted a really cool talk at work and I actually responded with SEATED

  • @maruchita222
    @maruchita222 5 місяців тому +1301

    Peter going in your delete actually hurts my soul

    • @IfersInklings
      @IfersInklings 5 місяців тому +164

      Shattered. It’s one of my favorite songs.

    • @Feriellll-13
      @Feriellll-13 5 місяців тому +85

      Peter and Cassandra and Florida!!!! are literally my favourite songs on the album

    • @tayluvofficial
      @tayluvofficial 5 місяців тому +21

      Take it with a pinch of salt.

    • @florana5961
      @florana5961 5 місяців тому +8

      Aaron 's productions are so awful

    • @akashvalsan6609
      @akashvalsan6609 5 місяців тому +54

      Peter is so beautiful 😢

  • @callumcartini
    @callumcartini 5 місяців тому +546

    i get so happy whenever you call me a diva

  • @bethwareing604
    @bethwareing604 5 місяців тому +95

    It makes me sad that you don't appreciate How Did It End? I think it's one of the most beautiful and interesting breakup songs she's ever written. The way it hones in on the specific feeling of having to open your wounds every time you explain your breakup to anyone you know and to me it's so eloquent and it hits me so hard every time I hear it!

  • @jeffergzl
    @jeffergzl 5 місяців тому +427

    "Those first three songs. That was an interesting journey that we had."
    Kinda agree.
    They felt like a three track long "i forgot that you existed"

    • @caroline_grace111
      @caroline_grace111 5 місяців тому +33

      YES! i was so scared the first time i was listening thru them like, is this what the rest of the album is going to be like

    • @emma22581
      @emma22581 5 місяців тому +25

      I feel like it was the first two for me and when it got to track three I was relieved

    • @regulusarcturusblack13
      @regulusarcturusblack13 5 місяців тому +27

      For me it was the first two. When I got to My Boy Only Breaks His Favourite Toys, i breathed a sigh of relief 😂😂

    • @maracela103
      @maracela103 5 місяців тому +12

      Tbh i felt that with the first 4 tracks in my first listen, and from so long london onwards it clicked and made sense to me (i now love down bad and really enjoy my boy and fortnight, but still haven’t really gotten into the title track)

    • @truestmermaid444
      @truestmermaid444 5 місяців тому +1

      @@regulusarcturusblack13 SAMEEE

  • @anupriyajamuar9540
    @anupriyajamuar9540 5 місяців тому +88

    I’m not the biggest fan of Peter but I find myself going back to it just to skip to the bridge. The whole, “I won’t confess that I waited” part hits somewhere deep😭

    • @MilesToGoGo
      @MilesToGoGo 5 місяців тому +8

      Yes that song didn’t grab me at first (I think it being near the end of the album hurt it cuz we were all pretty exhausted by that point lol) but once I went back and really listened to the bridge I was won over. It’s one of her BEST BRIDGES of all time “but the woman who sits by the window has turned out the light” is such beautiful imagery 😭

  • @livelurklaugh
    @livelurklaugh 5 місяців тому +49

    the transition from loml to I Can Do It is the highest peak of the album for me personally. glad to see that you see it too!

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  5 місяців тому +8

      its soooo good

    • @theauburnfirefox8767
      @theauburnfirefox8767 5 місяців тому +2

      the three track run of loml, icdiwabh, and tsmwel is so extremely INSANE. Like those are three off her best songs of her career IN A ROW. Im' gagged, diva down.

  • @SpeakMoew
    @SpeakMoew 5 місяців тому +119

    Imgonnagetyouback is my obsession. It's playing in my head everyday on repeat.

    • @um7239
      @um7239 5 місяців тому +3

      Same

    • @jubilee4
      @jubilee4 5 місяців тому +9

      Lowkey one of the best up tempo songs on the album!!

    • @um7239
      @um7239 5 місяців тому

      @@jubilee4 100% I’m a slut for those kinds of songs

    • @xqueenfrostine
      @xqueenfrostine 5 місяців тому +14

      Taylor sing-screaming “even if it’s handcuffed, I’m leaving her with you!” may be my favorite moment on the entire album. It’s so wildly unhinged, and I love her for it.

    • @SpeakMoew
      @SpeakMoew 5 місяців тому +2

      @@xqueenfrostine so cathartic listening in the car! My favorite part of the bridge is "we broke all the pieces but still wanna play the game...OH"

  • @antidote775
    @antidote775 5 місяців тому +45

    People are sleeping on Peter. It’s the sequel to cardigan after all!

    • @reflectsonlife
      @reflectsonlife 5 місяців тому +8

      On first listen of TTPD, Peter was the only song that hit me instantly.

    • @kratikshrivastava9297
      @kratikshrivastava9297 5 місяців тому +4

      Yes people are really sleeping.... On Peter.... Like the repetition in it gives a sense of longing and betrayal " you said you're gonna grow up, then you're gonna come find me........... But never to keep" at the end it gives a realisation also, that Peter is not coming back.

  • @shadystaff3337
    @shadystaff3337 5 місяців тому +95

    Idk but ttpd song just gets me i can't stop listening for no particular reason but "everyone we know understands why it's meant to be" line is just a vibe

    • @emilyfisher6478
      @emilyfisher6478 5 місяців тому +3

      agree

    • @tarathoughts13
      @tarathoughts13 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Jasmine-k9m2b same. it feels like soemthing from a movie, it's a very visual song, and as a visual girlie, i could imagine the scene playing out in my head as i listened to it. i know everyone hates and despises the second verse, but i can imagine it like a movie scene when i listen (great imagery i will say) - yea i love movies and movie soundtracks so that's probably why.

    • @rachel-8636
      @rachel-8636 5 місяців тому +1

      Same. I find it so catchy

    • @MonikaGeca
      @MonikaGeca 5 місяців тому +1

      Yes girl, I love it so much too, and I listen to it frequently

    • @shadystaff3337
      @shadystaff3337 5 місяців тому

      @@Jasmine-k9m2b definitely!

  • @TheBlissfulReactions
    @TheBlissfulReactions 5 місяців тому +48

    Well well well… not that we care, but let’s talk for the sake of conversation 😅. I typically agree with most of what you say, and that stands in this video.
    BUT…
    I’ve always found the fandoms opinion of track 5 to be so interesting. It seems to be a popular opinion that SLL isn’t the best track 5, and to that I say, who are we to say what a track 5 should be? Track 5 isn’t ours, it’s Taylor’s. When she places a song there, she’s telling us something. She’s placing her most emotionally jarring song there, not ours.
    With that said, I think SLL is the perfect track 5. I think the breakdown of a 6 year relationship is massively complex and confusing and drawn out… it’s much easier to write about an intense 2 week situationship than it is to peel back all of the layers of a longterm relationship and expose yourself to the feelings about a relationship you thought was the last one… the forever. And if we really think about it, the rest of the album is a result of her leaving that relationship, wanting something entirely different, and realizing she threw yourself head first into something that was ultimately similar to the last.
    I think for track 5 to be directly linked to the turkey, when the rest of the album is either pointedly about the rat and/or a mixture of the 2… well, yes. Is that not the ultimate track 5? Is that not her saying hey, I’m distracting you with all of this chaos over here, but don’t you see…. the ending of my life in/with London was actually the most devastating thing to have happened to me? 🤔

    • @xJentaa
      @xJentaa 5 місяців тому +4

      *insert choir sounds* this is exactly it!!

    • @teopricop7155
      @teopricop7155 5 місяців тому +2

      👆💯

    • @bad-girlbex3791
      @bad-girlbex3791 4 місяці тому

      Not being a Swiftie, I have no prior knowledge of whatever the track 5 theory is about, but it's been interesting learning about this being a phenomenon that reoccurs in her albums. If I've learned anything from finding how much I love this album, is that there's so much more to so many of her songs and lyrics, which makes me more inclined to want to listen more to her back catalogue and see what else I can now get out of them. I really enjoy it when musicians use Easter Eggs in their work for fans to hunt down and make sense of. There's a lot more depth to her songs than I previously assumed there to be.

    • @qxnly
      @qxnly 4 місяці тому

      exactky what i was gooing to say. you can't judge her on her track fives, because it's what SHE thought was most heart hitting for her. not you. she takes no value in her fans or anyone else'd opinion if a song is suitable as a track five, its completely for her. we dont have any right to judge that.

  • @VTSanchez4
    @VTSanchez4 5 місяців тому +129

    Waiting for Madeline to chime in immediately once Zack mentioned “Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus” lol 21:07

    • @andreaf8404
      @andreaf8404 5 місяців тому +23

      truly believe she and i are the number 1 stans of that song

    • @ChelseaRoseRiggs
      @ChelseaRoseRiggs 5 місяців тому +6

      I am obsessed with that song 😭😭😭😭

  • @junainahrahman4156
    @junainahrahman4156 5 місяців тому +60

    Peter deserves better ! The bridge is such a standout. I absolutely can't agree with Peter erasure.

    • @Inksplatter1991
      @Inksplatter1991 5 місяців тому +5

      One of her best bridges 💜

    • @That_BrownGirl
      @That_BrownGirl 5 місяців тому +8

      ​@@Inksplatter1991 I'm not that big fan of Peter but "Love is never lost when perspective is earn" is just so beautiful. I love it so so much ❤

    • @popebonifaceviii2736
      @popebonifaceviii2736 5 місяців тому +1

      Peter’s bridge is objectively the best on the album 😭 like how can you cut that

    • @That_BrownGirl
      @That_BrownGirl 5 місяців тому

      @@popebonifaceviii2736 I mean that's your opinion, you are entitled to have one but people don't have to agree with it u know

    • @popebonifaceviii2736
      @popebonifaceviii2736 4 місяці тому +1

      @@That_BrownGirl I know!! I don’t feel any differently towards him bc of his opinion, I just question it!!

  • @MSerrada1
    @MSerrada1 5 місяців тому +178

    Defending WAOLOM:
    IMO it goes so hard at Taylor's pain, frustration & anger at all the various people (both professional & personal), media (social & professional), and fans/haters who have negatively impacted her.
    It evokes so many emotions that I'd feel a huge loss if it suddenly disappeared.

    • @devikabrendon7198
      @devikabrendon7198 5 місяців тому +51

      It is a brilliant, brilliant song. I’m loving the way she performs it, too, in the Eras Tour

    • @cottage-core_
      @cottage-core_ 5 місяців тому +9

      It definitely needs more story. She doesn't explain why she's someone to be afraid of.

    • @cheshirecatswiftie
      @cheshirecatswiftie 5 місяців тому +46

      I think TS herself summed it up perfectly, it’s “female rage” in a song. People who say she doesn’t explain exactly who she’s mad at- she rarely specifically names anyone (with the exception of Dear John) & it’s about her relationship with fame, with womanhood, being disrespected, ect. Classic Taylor goddess lyricism of specific imagery, that’s also very relatable. The people who don’t get it- won’t. But those of us who do get it, bawl our eyes out & scream sing along. It was my favorite from 1st listen to where it stays on repeat. 🩶

    • @richmaxmchalliwchester1984
      @richmaxmchalliwchester1984 5 місяців тому +6

      @@cottage-core_ it´s an amazing song but it does need 1 or 2 extra songs like But Daddy I Love Him for example to give a context why she´s angry. It must be part of an album, it wouldn´t work as a standalone track without an album that gives it context.

    • @AMoniqueOcampo
      @AMoniqueOcampo 5 місяців тому +3

      I think it's a Gorgeous Girl for sure.

  • @benistheproblem
    @benistheproblem 5 місяців тому +69

    I feel like fortnight is about forever running into an ex over and over when you’ve both moved on and you have the urge to delete both of your new partners and risk it all to get back with them even though it was a quick fling, using settling down in a suburban way as a metaphor. How the hospital imagery makes sense with that, idk…. The song makes more sense with each listen but it’s still really weird

    • @mollypocrass4562
      @mollypocrass4562 5 місяців тому +8

      the video not really matching the song reminds me of i can see you

    • @hanaz1023
      @hanaz1023 5 місяців тому +5

      Yes! I was SO CONFUSED when I first heard it but now I can kinda see the vision. Literally clicked for me just today. Which, honestly, I think is a bad thing.

    • @benistheproblem
      @benistheproblem 5 місяців тому +3

      @@hanaz1023 You make a good point. Like, the entire first verse still makes absolutely no sense to me. No one noticed my new aesthetic? Huh? But the rest clicked eventually. I wonder why she picked such a confusing song to not only open the album but to also be the first single?

    • @xqueenfrostine
      @xqueenfrostine 5 місяців тому +5

      @@benistheproblemthat line may be my least favorite on the album. I can’t figured it out. It sounds like she’s saying she stopped being an alcoholic because no one noticed, which is usually the opposite of what happens. I like fortnight, but that line’s a clunker.

    • @bonjourista
      @bonjourista 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@xqueenfrostine I think she might mean that she was an alcoholic, screaming for help, using it as copium, but then stopped because nobody noticed she needs helps so in her mind she wasn't really addicted, she just wanted help and she didn't get it.
      I don't particularly like this meaning of it, but I can't really imagine that line being about something else. I like how she sings it and how it sounds but...

  • @SophiaFran13
    @SophiaFran13 5 місяців тому +65

    I think it's so interesting how everyone is so sure that Cassandra is about snakegate, because I don't think it is. She wouldn't have needed to use Cassandra as a character for that!
    Cassandra is a figure from greek mythology that was the priestes of the temple of Apollon in Troy (the one with the Troyan horse, which she told people about beforehand). The god Apollon took a liking into her, so he gave her the gift to foresee the future with extreme accuracy. He then tried to make a move on her and when she didn't give into his sexual assault, he couldn't take the gift away, so he instead cursed her, so that no one would ever believe her, even tho if they did, terrible things could be prevented (like Troy being destroyed)
    Now what does that have to do with Taylor Swift? She herself had a SA case a couple years ago and on her Rep Tour gave a speech about how glad she was, that the jury chose to believe her and rule in her favor and how she doesn't know where she'd be if she hadn't been believed (she included that speech in the movie, so it was clearly important to her that as many people as possible heard it)
    To then go and choose a character as a standin for herself, that was literally cursed to never be believed because she didn't give into sexual assault speaks volumes to me.
    This song is about men claiming power over women, men being believed over women in our society, men only being okay with women having power, as long as it serves them, men thinking women owe them sexual favours for being nice.
    I can't dislike this song because of this very powerful message it holds, when you take the whole of it into account
    (which doesn't mean I'm trying to change your mind, if you don't like it that's that, I just think it's terribly slept on and misunderstood)

    • @jazminepoirier1841
      @jazminepoirier1841 5 місяців тому +9

      Im so glad you shared your interpretation! It makes me see the song in a new light

    • @happycommuter3523
      @happycommuter3523 5 місяців тому +16

      YES. I think this song is about three things: the SA case, the Kim/ Kanye debacle, and the sale of her masters. She uses the myth of Cassandra to explore women’s experiences not being listened to or believed. It’s incredibly powerful, even if it doesn’t fit thematically with some of the rest of the album.

    • @misskittycatcat123
      @misskittycatcat123 5 місяців тому +2

      I completely agree with you!

    • @theoriginal4ever7
      @theoriginal4ever7 5 місяців тому +5

      This interpretation just gave added a whole new dimension to this song for me! Thank you!

    • @tanyahotchkiss5403
      @tanyahotchkiss5403 3 місяці тому +1

      I agree! The use of Cassandra as a figure is telling. This song speaks more about the overall feeling of being a woman who is not heard. I find it highly relatable and moving.

  • @caleplrent4030
    @caleplrent4030 5 місяців тому +190

    the most needed reshuffling

  • @BottledBlueOnYouTube
    @BottledBlueOnYouTube 5 місяців тому +115

    I could be wrong but I’d guess Who’s Afraid Of Little Old Me? may resonate more with women - similar to the way mad woman does. there are parallels of lived experience of being lured, hurt, caged and called crazy, but I totally agree I don’t think it’s satire at all !

    • @VEGAS-NERVE
      @VEGAS-NERVE 5 місяців тому +6

      Well yes, but also there’s really no experience more patronizing than being a feminine gay man, so I’m sure it’s relatable in some way.

    • @jillsarah7356
      @jillsarah7356 5 місяців тому +11

      Must we always compare everything? They are different experiences.

    • @sunshineyrainbows13
      @sunshineyrainbows13 5 місяців тому

      You think being a gay MAN is harder than being a woman? What a joke. ​@@VEGAS-NERVE

    • @reflectsonlife
      @reflectsonlife 5 місяців тому +2

      It's definitely metaphor, and it's definitely not satire. It evokes horror imo.

  • @MattNavarro-ct5io
    @MattNavarro-ct5io 5 місяців тому +65

    I felt so good and so heard when you said the opening track is So Long, London, i have said since the album came out, So Long, London is the perfect opening track, honestly i 100% agree with the first 3 tracks

    • @annaphallactic
      @annaphallactic 5 місяців тому +8

      I made an edited playlist and also put SLL as track one. For me the album kinda drags until that song hits, and it builds the tension that the album desperately needs.

    • @SandraGrauschopf
      @SandraGrauschopf 5 місяців тому +8

      So Long London has such an unexpected start that it would have been amazing as the first song!

    • @nirvanessa
      @nirvanessa 5 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I agree it's the answer to you're losing me so it gives at the same time the continuation and the closure of that relationship.

    • @witchywoman2008
      @witchywoman2008 5 місяців тому +1

      I’m imagining how I would have felt clicking play on the album on release day and hearing the intro to SLL and I WOULD BE GAGGED

  • @Webanglikethat
    @Webanglikethat 5 місяців тому +78

    20:43 the anthology is woodvale’s reincarnation

  • @jcksparrowfan
    @jcksparrowfan 5 місяців тому +30

    Black Dog is my "ABSOLUTELY NEVER SKIP KNIFE TO YOUR THROAT" song. The guitar riff on "screaming" is gorgeous.

    • @bad-girlbex3791
      @bad-girlbex3791 4 місяці тому

      "Old habits die screaming" will now forever be in my vocabulary.

  • @BottledBlueOnYouTube
    @BottledBlueOnYouTube 5 місяців тому +166

    I love the idea of the album starting with ‘Oh, here we go again’ and ending with ‘How did it end?’ 🥲 So here’s my track list:
    1. My Boy Only Breaks His Favourite Toys
    2. Down Bad
    3. Guilty as Sin?
    4. So Long, London
    5. loml
    6. Fresh Out The Slammer
    7. The Alchemy
    8. The Tortured Poets Department
    9. But Daddy I Love Him
    10. I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)
    11. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
    12. I Can Do It With a Broken Heart
    13. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus
    14. Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me?
    15. The Black Dog
    16. The Prophecy
    17. How Did It End?

    • @bhaktiagarwal5859
      @bhaktiagarwal5859 5 місяців тому +9

      Oh this is such a perfect tracklist!

    • @Gosgos666
      @Gosgos666 5 місяців тому +3

      omg it's so similar to mine 🖤

    • @nupurgupta9
      @nupurgupta9 5 місяців тому +5

      ikrrr!! loml is such a track 5 😭🤌🏼💔

  • @jenniferhart3941
    @jenniferhart3941 5 місяців тому +39

    I love “I Hate It Here” because I am love disassociating!

  • @blueregret3620
    @blueregret3620 5 місяців тому +110

    “thanK you aIMee, delete”
    Well yes!!!
    “And yknow what, where’s Cassandra? She’s going there too”
    IM GAGGEDDD 💀💀💀
    That 1,2 punch was so funny I can’t

    • @Rachels7777
      @Rachels7777 5 місяців тому +6

      But it was undeserved, at least for Cassandra 😭 but he’s a man so I get it lol

    • @Dani-vu7em
      @Dani-vu7em 5 місяців тому +10

      @@Rachels7777 well as a woman, I agree with him lol

    • @blueregret3620
      @blueregret3620 5 місяців тому +7

      @@Rachels7777 thanK you aIMee getting the boot was just good clean fun. I always skip Cassandra too cuz I don’t want to hear about kimye anymore 🫠

    • @sunsetsbymidnights
      @sunsetsbymidnights 5 місяців тому

      It was so good and correct 😂

    • @tarathoughts13
      @tarathoughts13 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Rachels7777 i hate cassandra, im sorry, it was interesting idea, but my god, the production is boring, and i don't wanna hear about it anymore!! at least thanK you aIMee was fun and had a vibe to it, cassandra is just kimye piano with nothing. i'm not saying taylor cannot talk about kanye+kim, obv they hurt her, but like, it's been years, i don't wanna hear about they filled her cell with snakes.

  • @emma-fv8of
    @emma-fv8of 5 місяців тому +15

    I think the tagline for Fortnight is literally “I love you, it’s ruining my life” which to me seems to encapsulate most of the records narrative as a ‘tortured poet’ that was the vibe I got at least🤷‍♀️ great video!🫶

  • @Jessica-jl7dx
    @Jessica-jl7dx 5 місяців тому +33

    I agree with a lot of what you said.
    Skips for me:
    Thank you Aimee
    Robin
    The Manuscript
    Florida!!!
    Cassandra (most times)
    Except:
    Peter however is a masterpiece in my household. Just a stunning song.
    Same for So high school.
    Same for The Bolter
    MBOBHFT is a bop! So fun.

    • @sarahs7058
      @sarahs7058 5 місяців тому +6

      I so agree on your skips and that Peter is just in another stratosphere. For me…one of her best songs of all time.

    • @earthlingphilosophy3531
      @earthlingphilosophy3531 5 місяців тому +1

      Hard agree!

    • @Jessica-jl7dx
      @Jessica-jl7dx 5 місяців тому

      @@sarahs7058 dare I say one of the best she’s ever written…….

    • @faithmoir1637
      @faithmoir1637 5 місяців тому +1

      so high school is so fun but i don’t think it fits on this album. i think she could have held it back for the inevitable travis album that we’ll get in 2026

    • @lunawolf6288
      @lunawolf6288 4 місяці тому +1

      I like thank you Aimee but that’s your opinion

  • @SammySwift3128
    @SammySwift3128 2 місяці тому +3

    I love how he always says “I’m going to block you if u are annoying or rude” like he’s so real for that

  • @katie9646
    @katie9646 5 місяців тому +20

    since you asked for non-taylor-related video suggestions- I remember you mentioned wanting to talk about chappell roan, and I personally would devour that video!

  • @Laura-rm6us
    @Laura-rm6us 5 місяців тому +30

    “Our field of dreams…” “ Your arsons match” perfection. Love your shuffle.

  • @jaqijarboe3374
    @jaqijarboe3374 5 місяців тому +14

    I’m gagged on the disrespect for ‘ I can fix him, no really I can” that whole “good boy that’s right” ARTISTY sends me

    • @xqueenfrostine
      @xqueenfrostine 5 місяців тому +3

      The production on that song is excellent too!

  • @parkhae-il9211
    @parkhae-il9211 5 місяців тому +23

    PREACH! taylor literally outdid herself with "Guilty as Sin?" no one can change my mind

    • @Seraqueenyuh
      @Seraqueenyuh 5 місяців тому +2

      I mean you only speak facts it’s clearly the best song on the album, much better than the overrated but daddy I love him and who’s afraid of little old me

    • @That_BrownGirl
      @That_BrownGirl 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Seraqueenyuh I'm a Guilty as sin stan but Daddy I love him is not overrated at all, can't say the same about WAOLOM.... DILH is just so so good of a song and after the performance I'm obsessed 😂😂

    • @Seraqueenyuh
      @Seraqueenyuh 5 місяців тому +3

      @@That_BrownGirl agree to disagree, for me but daddy I love him is too annoying to listen to. Me personally I think it’s corny and mediocre but at least it’s not as bad as Who’s afraid of little old me and Florida

    • @That_BrownGirl
      @That_BrownGirl 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Seraqueenyuh Florida just has that one hook "Floridaaaaa it's one hell of a drug" but other than that I don't listen to it much either

  • @MinervaLavender2371
    @MinervaLavender2371 5 місяців тому +15

    For me, when something just makes sense and is perfectly balanced, all I can do is sigh with happiness at the feeling that all is right with the world. You put so much thought into this revised track list, and all I can do is sigh at its perfection.

  • @20erzet00
    @20erzet00 5 місяців тому +75

    I really like that you only do sponsers that you Genuinely use yourself and believe in

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  5 місяців тому +49

      🩷 that’s very important to me! I don’t wanna sell you guys stuff I don’t use x

  • @purpleseas
    @purpleseas 5 місяців тому +18

    i feel like thank you aimee was put on the album because of kim using "speak now" on her instagram story as a reminder "i still hate you"

    • @happycommuter3523
      @happycommuter3523 5 місяців тому +1

      I like how she uses the metaphor of a high school bully in this song.

  • @lanadelrayloveyou
    @lanadelrayloveyou 5 місяців тому +115

    I personally think fearless doesn't even need a tracklist remake for me fearless tracklist is the more organized one. BUT DEBUT IS BEGGING for a tracklist remake because that wasn't even a tracklist it was just a collection

    • @richmaxmchalliwchester1984
      @richmaxmchalliwchester1984 5 місяців тому +16

      Debut is a complete mess but Fearless standard could also use bit of re-shuffling:
      1. Fearless
      2. You Belong With Me
      3. Love Story
      4. Hey Stephen
      5. White Horse
      6. Fifteen
      7. Breathe (feat. Colbie Caillat)
      8. Forever & Always
      9. Tell Me Why
      10. You´re Not Sorry
      11. The Way I Loved You
      12. The Best Day
      13. Change
      This way it sounds like 1 cohesive story from start to finish

    • @folklore9062
      @folklore9062 5 місяців тому +1

      Fearless needs to be shorter that's it tbh

    • @KateCat420
      @KateCat420 5 місяців тому +7

      ​@@folklore9062 the standard edition of the album was only 13 songs, less than an hour. Taylor's Version is longer because of the bonus tracks and vault tracks, but the og is a pretty perfect length.

  • @alinehankhan5137
    @alinehankhan5137 5 місяців тому +37

    Thats such a cool tracklist! Here is mine:
    1. The Black Dog (opening track)
    2. So Long, London
    3. How did it end?
    4. My Boy Only Breaks His Favourite Toys
    5. loml
    6. Guilty As Sin?
    7. Fresh out the Slammer
    8. The Tortured Poets Department
    9. But Daddy I love him
    10. I can fix him (no really I can)
    11. I hate it here
    12. Down Bad
    13. I Can Do it With a Broken Heart
    14. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
    15. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus
    16. I Look in People's Windows
    17. The Bolter
    18. The Prophecy (end track)

  • @legrand123
    @legrand123 5 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for making a Spotify playlist with your reorganized track list! I’ve been listening to her “5 stages of grief” playlists and it’s an interesting new way to listen to her music vs album by album. I think your track order makes a lot of sense and I look forward to listening to it.

  • @steph_nation
    @steph_nation 2 місяці тому +2

    Putting Fortnight after that run of songs makes SO MUCH MORE SENSE, it's an 'oh yeah she's gone a bit nuts, fair' after everything we've just listened to in that order. Love this as a more narrative driven track list, will definitely be using this playlist

  • @annaphallactic
    @annaphallactic 5 місяців тому +15

    The production twist at the end of FOTS is so fun. The way the music gets a bit nebulous for a few seconds and then shifts to something else entirely is really cool and one of my favorite bits of the album.

    • @TheLizard199
      @TheLizard199 5 місяців тому +3

      That’s been a consistent top three for me

    • @astaldaron9724
      @astaldaron9724 5 місяців тому +11

      can we just call is slammer plz FOTS sounds like a disease

    • @annaphallactic
      @annaphallactic 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@astaldaron9724 😂

  • @edenstar196
    @edenstar196 5 місяців тому +23

    In my version of the album I have smallest man and then black dog, those are the angry sister songs to me. She’s just pissed as hell 😅

  • @stedlouie
    @stedlouie 5 місяців тому +20

    I'm going to make a case for so high school. At first listen I thought WTF? Why is this on the anthology? I understand feeling like it doesn't fit the narrative of the album, but the song has grown on me a great deal and I think including makes it a more impactful song. The juxtaposition of the devastation over the Matty breakup, to then finding someone who makes you feel like you're 16 again is powerful.

  • @gingeraiyle
    @gingeraiyle 5 місяців тому +2

    I really like your take on rearranging the track list and your explanation of why you've put each song where it is. So glad to see you put together playlists of these as well! I'm looking forward to listening to it in this order.
    Also I'm fairly new to the channel but what I've seen, I love. Your personality is so fun and you present things in such an informative yet conversational way and I just find you really entertaining.

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  5 місяців тому +2

      Thank you so much!! I hope you stick around

  • @philjan23
    @philjan23 5 місяців тому +8

    I don't think that _My boy only breaks his favorite toys_ 's metaphor is NOT weak because: it's multi-layered. It's three metaphors in one, it's an incredible writing feature and serves the narrative as the moment in the album where she signals "hey, remember my 'angel boyfriend' who I didn't wat anyrhing bad written about? WE'RE GOING AT HIM NOW", cuz that is a deep cut, my friends.... Look:
    1) In the The Great War scheme of things, they lost, but not because of her, media's underdog on who no one bets on having a long lasting relationship, but because of him-- she was The Man, he was the sickest army doll, purchased at the mall, to delicate (yes, delicate) to withstand the tempests of the world, unlike a less "refined" but stronger doll would;
    2) G.I.JOE -- how is no one getting it? Also, it has the additional layer that _"G.I"_ stands for "galvanized iron" -- he is encapsuled in an outer shell of protection that is innefective, because it can rust (between telephones aaah), but also keeps her from accessing what's on the inside;
    3) straight out calling him childish, good bye London Boy, a failled attempt to be Ken to her Barbie, almost like if Mako, from Avatar Korra did try to be a cinema vedette instead of Bolin: he would fail, because he doesn't all that endearing BolEnergy Kenergy that we all know and love;
    All of that in a regular +/- 4 min song that taught me 2 new words ( _"Lithany"_ and _"Rivulets"_ ), but didn't sound over verbose! 10/10 for me 😀

  • @Lee-Ann-g1n
    @Lee-Ann-g1n 5 місяців тому +1

    Zachary Thank you. I was really struggling to appreciate TTPD, finding I’d tuned out about half way through the track list, so not even really hearing the last tracks. Then I created your suggested track list (I don’t stream) and I am now loving it. It really has been transformational.

  • @folklore9062
    @folklore9062 5 місяців тому +12

    Peter and how did it end are soo good...

  • @raecakes079
    @raecakes079 5 місяців тому +1

    i have to say I love how you are very honesty with your love and criticisms of taylor. I’ve been a swiftie from literally 2007 but I haven’t always been involved in fandom bc people can be a bit intense but I so respect and vibe with how you discuss her and how you view her work and her as a public figure

  • @dhanakbhat3626
    @dhanakbhat3626 5 місяців тому +12

    I hate it here is an absolutely gorgeous song ❤❤
    It deserves better from the fandom

  • @kitchensinkchronicles3272
    @kitchensinkchronicles3272 4 місяці тому +1

    zack i just listened to the (standard edition) playlist all the way through and getting to I Can Do It With a Broken Heart at the end was HEALING i was jumping around my room and shit, great work as always
    i always look forward to your tracklist re-shuffling, they're just so good. if i ever make music i'm just gonna call you to order my albums lol
    also any word on the olivia re-shuffling? would love to hear your take on it

  • @rasamusic2000
    @rasamusic2000 5 місяців тому +4

    I'm here just jumping around your videos from different times and I'm enjoying bingeing everything! I don't regret that this channel has become my new hyperfixation

  • @TheKarasworld
    @TheKarasworld 5 місяців тому +10

    my boy online breaks his favorite girl is my favorite by far! the chorus is amazing with its vocal layering, it creates an incredibly fitting mood for the message

  • @jjl3530
    @jjl3530 5 місяців тому +12

    Thank you Z! I thought this Sunday was going to be boring but you‘ve blessed 😇

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  5 місяців тому +5

      Hope you enjoyed it!

    • @jjl3530
      @jjl3530 5 місяців тому +1

      @@theswiftologistof course I am a glutton for Swiftologist videos! Your Tracklist literally is the same as mine but I had “how did it end?” As the second song of “TTPD my Version” and our rankings are the same except for
      Cassandra 🥲 but I see that song more in relation to Greek mythology not as Taylor & Haters & 🛴 etc.. 😂😅 thanks your for making this Sunday not boring 💖

  • @rocklandoll
    @rocklandoll 5 місяців тому +6

    thank you aimee, cassandra (mad woman did it better) and robin should've stayed in that vault FOREVERMORE! hard agree, loved the tracklist. here's my version based on my point of view of the album's aesthetic and lore:
    1. My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys
    2. loml
    3. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus
    4. Down Bad
    5. So Long, London
    6. But Daddy I Love Him
    7. Fresh Out The Slammer
    8. Guilty as Sin?
    9. Who's Afraid of Little Old Me?
    10. The Black Dog
    11. I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)
    12. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
    13. I Hate It Here
    14. I Can Do It With a Broken Heart
    15. Peter
    16. How Did It End?
    17. The Prophecy
    18. Clara Bow
    (it HURT me to remove the albatross as an evermore girlie but i don't think she fits the lore in my head, like just publish evermore : the long pond studio sessions and add there as a bonus track 😭😭 the alchemy sounds exactly like the sound i thought this album would be but the bridge part ruins it for me bc i hate football metaphors so i choose being a hater over the art. also title track is one of the weakest tracks on the album so i'd name the album 'the prophecy' i guess)

    • @Rachels7777
      @Rachels7777 5 місяців тому +1

      But does Mad Woman have any lyric as insane as “blood’s thick but nothing like a payroll” no it doesn’t

    • @MilesToGoGo
      @MilesToGoGo 5 місяців тому

      I know Robin gets so much hate but just seeing how many people connect with it because it reminds them of their own children I understand it’s purpose on the album.

  • @thatsydvicious
    @thatsydvicious 5 місяців тому +11

    Justice for How Did it End? 😅
    I find it so devastating and beautiful

    • @MilesToGoGo
      @MilesToGoGo 5 місяців тому +3

      My top three songs are Chloe or Sam, How Did it End, and I Hate it Here. (Can you tell I’m an evermore girly lol) they’re all so beautiful and fit together so well (after I deleted so high school of course haha)

  • @LWYMMD
    @LWYMMD 5 місяців тому +7

    The Black Dog has been my comfort song anytime I feel anxiety since the album dropped. I love it sm. Just makes me feel calm separate from LOVING the lyrics.

  • @bethannybiscuits
    @bethannybiscuits 5 місяців тому +6

    Omg! You literally articulated everything I've been feeling. I felt like my thoughts would be unpopular opinions, but we are really on the same page.

  • @callumcartini
    @callumcartini 5 місяців тому +3

    this video got me thinking about what my tracklist would be. here it is!
    1. The Black Dog
    2. I Look in People's Window
    3. imgonnagetyouback
    4. The Albatross
    5. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
    6. So Long, London
    7. Guilt as Sin?
    8. Fresh Out The Slammer
    9. But Daddy I Love Him
    10. The Alchemy
    11. The Tortured Poets Department
    12. How Did it End?
    13. Down Bad
    14. loml
    15. I Can Do It With a Broken Heart
    16. The Prophecy
    17. Clara Bow
    the story isnt in chronological order but picks up in the middle with the black dog. after the track 5, we change time frames and start from so long, london. i almost didnt add clara bow but its one of my favourites and i think the "you look like taylor swift" verse is a brilliant way to end the album.

  • @alexarobertson17
    @alexarobertson17 5 місяців тому +5

    When you said “Scorpio Taylor” I felt so seen! lol 😂 as a fellow Scorpio, I’ve always felt that she must have some heavy Scorpio placements in her chart. When I googled the first thing I found was Scorpio in Mars, Pluto and ascendant. She also has a lot of Capricorn mixed in which also tends to be a bit vindictive and reactive when hurt. Everyone knows about the scorpions sting, but a Cap will hold a grudge just as long as we scorps will.

  • @trankhanh1444
    @trankhanh1444 5 місяців тому +3

    Loving this reordering of the tracklist Zach!! I just wonder if you have to add "clara bow" where would you put it? In my mind, its like an end credit to "i can do it with a broken heart" or the entire album and like u i also love this song so so much 😭

  • @christopherdy3572
    @christopherdy3572 5 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for giving Guilty as Sin? and Fresh Out The Slammer the recognition it deserves!! At first, they weren’t my favorite upon first listen but after a couple of re-listens they have been on my top 5 from the album.

  • @izzie740
    @izzie740 5 місяців тому +3

    I usually work double shifts on Sunday (in a restaurant to finance my studies) and when I'm finally done, I have food from the kitchen and a video from the swiftologist waiting for me. So yay me!

  • @stelladarcy4270
    @stelladarcy4270 5 місяців тому +5

    I honestly think “fresh out the slammer” would be a perfect opening but that would mean cutting so long london entirely and basically picking up where you’re losing me left off (i do like so long london dont get me wrong but i think that exactly story was told with you’re losing me already)

    • @theswiftologist
      @theswiftologist  5 місяців тому +3

      yeah i definitely toyed with that as the opener for a few days

  • @pavilova29
    @pavilova29 5 місяців тому +3

    WE ARE BEING FED BY SWIFTILOGIST!!! Truly thank you so much you just make my weekend so much better!!! ❤❤❤❤

  • @Dani-vu7em
    @Dani-vu7em 5 місяців тому +6

    I love your takes, even when I don’t necessarily agree with them all of them time. But you did not miss with your ranking! I may have shifted a couple of the songs up or down one category, but damn this is a great ranking!

  • @gabbykersey9343
    @gabbykersey9343 5 місяців тому +1

    I've been watching every one of your videos and your ability to speak so clearly and with such precise direction is a gift to Taylor Swift listeners, everywhere. ALSO, our "straight into the canon" is the EXACT same. Honestly, the entire ranking is the same-I just kept finding myself nodding and smiling. Once again, showing me how smart and discerning you are when it comes to her writing skill and vocal ability and what we should expect from her.

  • @Melwnc8
    @Melwnc8 5 місяців тому +9

    Florida!!! is straight into the cannon for me lmao I love it

    • @Melwnc8
      @Melwnc8 5 місяців тому +3

      and Dorothea 🤣

  • @KamalFakhoury
    @KamalFakhoury 5 місяців тому +2

    Oh wow, I've also reorganised the album depending on what makes the most sense to keep in line with the idea that "I had been struck with a case of a restricted humanity which explains my plea here today of temporary insanity".
    1. The Albatross
    2. Cassandra
    3. I Hate It Here
    4. So Long, London
    5. loml
    6. How Did It End?
    7. The Prophecy
    8. The Black Dog
    9. Guilty as Sin?
    10. Fresh Out The Slammer
    11. But Daddy I Love Him
    12. The Tortured Poets Department
    13. My Boy Only Breaks His Favourite Toys
    14. Down Bad
    15. I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)
    16. The Bolter
    17. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
    18. I Can Do It With a Broken Heart
    19. Clara Bow
    20. The Manuscript

  • @aziumic
    @aziumic 5 місяців тому +5

    we cheered! been waiting for this since RELEASE DAYYY P.S. love the new pfp!

  • @jeremy_jxrge
    @jeremy_jxrge 3 місяці тому +1

    1. So Long, London
    2. Guilty As Sin?
    3. Fresh Out The Slammer
    4. The Alchemy
    5. But Daddy I Love Him
    6. The Tortured Poets Department
    7. My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys
    8. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
    9. Down Bad
    10. How Did It End?
    11. Fortnight (feat. Post Malone)
    12. imgonnagetyouback
    13. loml
    14. I Can Do It With A Broken Heart
    15. I Hate It Here (bonus)
    16. I Look In People's Windows (bonus)
    17. The Albatross (bonus)
    18. Chloe Or Sam Or Sophia Or Marcus (bonus)
    19. The Black Dog (bonus)
    20. The Prophecy (bonus)

  • @blackice27
    @blackice27 5 місяців тому +4

    WAOLOM is my fav off the entire album. I think the live performance is also *perfection*

  • @autumngafforio
    @autumngafforio 5 місяців тому +2

    My idea here is to make two seperate albums with different stories/vibes that are each 13 (heeeeyyyy) tracks and therfore 5 songs are cut.
    Track reshuffle (+ removing some) Relationships Story
    1. Guilty as Sin?
    2. Fresh Out the Slammer
    3. So Long, London
    4. Down Bad
    5. The Black Dog
    6. Peter
    7. But Daddy I Love Him
    8. I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)
    9. My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys
    10. imgonnagetyouback
    11. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
    12. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus
    13. loml
    Track reshuffle (+ removing some) Fame and Mental Health Story
    1. I Can Do It With a Broken Heart
    2. Fortnight (feat. Post Malone)
    3. Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me?
    4. Florida!!! (feat. Florence + the Machine)
    5. The Prophecy
    6. I Hate It Here
    7. Cassandra
    8. thanK you aiMee
    9. The Bolter
    10. The Albatross
    11. How Did It End?
    12. Clara Bow
    13. The Manuscript

    • @autumngafforio
      @autumngafforio 5 місяців тому

      also my favs ranking is very different from yours lol!
      1. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus
      2. Florida!!! (feat. Florence + the Machine)
      3. How Did It End?
      4. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
      5. So Long, London
      6. Peter
      7. loml
      8. The Black Dog
      9. But Daddy I Love Him
      10. Cassandra
      11. The Manuscript
      12. The Prophecy
      13. The Bolter
      14. I Hate It Here
      15. My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys
      16. Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me?
      17. Guilty as Sin?
      18. Clara Bow
      19. thanK you aiMee
      20. I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)
      21. The Albatross
      22. imgonnagetyouback
      23. Fresh Out the Slammer
      24. Fortnight (feat. Post Malone)
      25. I Can Do It With a Broken Heart
      26. The Alchemy
      27. Robin
      28. Down Bad
      29. The Tortured Poets Department
      30. So High School
      31. I Look in People's Windows

  • @lola-el8fv
    @lola-el8fv 5 місяців тому +5

    thank you we've been waiting for this

  • @fotinik1259
    @fotinik1259 5 місяців тому +1

    Zachary you're getting so big with the latest videos we're so proud of you 🥲

  • @areynaschmidt2497
    @areynaschmidt2497 5 місяців тому +5

    THE MOMENT WE ALL HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THANK YOU DIVA 🩷

  • @BigTony808
    @BigTony808 5 місяців тому +2

    Pretty sure "Robin" is code for Christopher Robin who grew up "sheltered" in the safe 100 acre woods, with friends like a Tiger named Tigger who bounced "higher and higher." Kids born in 1989 were the last sheltered generation. Taylor would have had to watch Disney and Pooh on VHS tapes over and over. I believe the song laments how her sheltered childhood ill prepared her for the harshness of reality. But made her "brave" enough at 11 to storm Nashville. My daughter born in 1989 upon high school grad and starting real life at 17 said "why didn't anyone tell me how hard it is out here." The song can't be the depiction of a child with autism.

  • @lamarwiscombe8634
    @lamarwiscombe8634 5 місяців тому +3

    Zach, after listening carefully to your review, I believe you have created the perfect track list for a concisely scripted TTPD. However, I feel like our beloved mother was going through the first trimester of her life and was seeking cathartic relief from the waves of relational nausea.
    Decision making, combined with hormonally-charged emotions, do not often produce the best results for the optimal track list.
    However, think about the fact that eleven (11) of her songs made it into the "Zachonized" (Zach+Canonized) - this is phenomenal.
    Two final thoughts. First, I agree "So High School, certainly does not belong in the Zach album, but It is essential to provide a sense hope and love to the Nation of Swiftieland. And second, Clara Bow is a necessary forewarning to all those that follow the queen.
    Zach, thank you for keeping us informed and aligned!

  • @VictoriaCavazos
    @VictoriaCavazos 5 місяців тому +2

    I love your storytelling in the new tracklist. I think it's wonderful to base it on the core emotional content and not the literal muses we guess at for any given song, especially since they so often seem to weave inspirations from multiple sources. On that note, if you ever wanted to, I'd LOVE a video on just thanK you aIMee and Cassandra and the theories about potential additional themes there beyond Kim. Also, the MANY themes for the most perplexing song, Robin (Christopher Robin, Robin Williams, Scott Swift (?!!!), Aaron's son, her aging cats - which is my favorite theory).

  • @dexlopez9198
    @dexlopez9198 5 місяців тому +21

    Joe Alwyn is such a flop he couldnt even get the main role on his break up album

    • @rinarinachan_
      @rinarinachan_ 5 місяців тому +1

      I died at this comment dead 😂😂😂😂

    • @sigyn27
      @sigyn27 5 місяців тому

      🤣

  • @peepingsue
    @peepingsue 5 місяців тому +1

    i loove your content, so much so that sometimes I save your videos to watch on an ideal time :D the way you convey your ideas is admirable. though i have say this, i never been in this much disagreement with you or the swifties in general. but that's ok, that's what's fun about having ideas! :D for me "who's afraid of little old me" is featuring in the soundtrack of my life now! i looove it bc i identify immensely with the rage and the anger. i have goosebumps whenever she says the "asylum" line, as person raised by a broken family of sociopathic wolves tbh. and in the part where she says "and i'm wrooong" i'm elated, i leap from the gallows as a people pleaser who always tries to do the right thing and still never pleased a soul. as seen here i don't really think about taylor's story when i'm listening to it, and this album made me realize i prefer it when i get to not to think about her life as much. i love it when it's personal yet ambiguous enough that i can put myself in these scenarios and identify it in my own way. so that's my verbose take on it, just wanted to share it.

    • @jessicadangerfield1539
      @jessicadangerfield1539 5 місяців тому

      💯! With you on this. If you’re a recovering good girl/people pleaser, raised in a broken, psychologically warring family that drove you to the brink of sanity and are having a reckoning with it now personally and/or socially you get that this album is glorious because of its rawness and messiness as it is, that to edit it in anyway is to prove you didn’t pick up what Taylor put down & spelled out multiple times on this album. Who’s Afraid is absolutely the anthem to this.
      Plus she said it both it the songs and in her posts as well as in the In Summation poem to stop, just stop, with the paternity testing of songs and writing Essays on how she’s wrong for formulating her track lists and living her life the way she does.
      This whole album is the people pleaser using her voice to tell those who only listen to her to respond and tell everyone else why to just be quiet and listen to actually hear her for once.
      Doing this kind of video on the album where’s she’s telling you to stop it because it’s driving her to extremes that you then further get on your wannabe a controller of my life high horse is actually disgusting. I had hoped anyone who actually listened to the album and respected this part of the message, if not her, would take it to heart and stop doing these.
      A favourites ranking based on your interpretations? Fine.
      But this? The audacity to assume you actually know the narrative better than the one who lived it & as such think you have any right to reorder the track list so it tells that narrative rather than the purposely semi ambiguous one she’s gifted us so we can connect to it our way is peak entitlement. It’s exactly the behaviour of the recording studio execs that she’s been railing against since the beginning. We hate it when the execs do it to her, so why do we feel entitled to turn around and do the same?!
      I’m almost physically sickened by the audacity & entitlement on display by just posting this kind of video, especially on This album, as well as in the comments.
      It’s not our place to rewrite the narrative as set out in the album. It never has been.
      Anyone thinking it’s their right to disrespect the artist and the art this way needs to take a good long look at themselves and ask themselves if they’d be okay with strangers telling them you told your life story wrong, so here’s how it actually went. Don’t like the mere idea of it being done to you, don’t do it others, any single person even an artist with a Lore you think you know.

  • @Nicki-M.-Kardashian24
    @Nicki-M.-Kardashian24 5 місяців тому +7

    AHHHHH SHE PLAYED the alchemy after she said this is my 87th show which is Travis’s number so is it actually about him or did she just do that cuz of the football references

    • @thegirlwholivesindelusion26
      @thegirlwholivesindelusion26 5 місяців тому +1

      I feel like she wouldn’t play a song about matty Healy for Travis if it was just references but idk

    • @jessicadangerfield1539
      @jessicadangerfield1539 5 місяців тому +3

      @@thegirlwholivesindelusion26 That whole show was specifically for Travis. The whole thing. It was like spying on a private 3.5hr long serenade. When she’s goofy in love the references are unmistakably on the nose level obvious. The Alchemy is for Travis period. Even if the concept came to her initially under Matty (and that’s a big if), she clearly couldn’t get it right until Travis. It’s Travis’ period, between the football references & everything she & Taylor Nation have done surrounding it (football emoji on the listening party stream for example) and specifically referencing it being her 87th show last night before singing it & mashing it with Treacherous. She’s in love with Travis & The Alchemy is ultimately all his.
      Besides she followed it up with Begin Again & Paris, just to drive home the point.

    • @Nicki-M.-Kardashian24
      @Nicki-M.-Kardashian24 5 місяців тому

      @@jessicadangerfield1539okay I am believing it

    • @thegirlwholivesindelusion26
      @thegirlwholivesindelusion26 5 місяців тому

      @@jessicadangerfield1539 No I agree the alchemy was about Travis. I was just saying IF the song was really about Marty I don’t think she would’ve had that speech so I agree with you

  • @Amy-zp2ks
    @Amy-zp2ks 5 місяців тому +1

    Here's my track list:
    1. I Look In People's Windows (Opening Track)
    2. So Long, London
    3. The Bolter
    4. Down Bad
    5. Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus (I wanted this to be Track 5)
    6. My Boy Only Breaks His Favourite Toys
    7. I Can Fix Him (No Really I Can)
    8. Florida!!!
    9. The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived
    10. Who's Afraid of Little Old Me?
    11. The Prophecy
    12. I Can Do It With A Broken Heart
    13. How Did It End
    14. So High School
    Idk, I tried to make it feel more like a narrative while also being sonically interesting (to me at least).

  • @balladofolivia
    @balladofolivia 5 місяців тому +4

    so high school is one of my favorites it’s always in my head😭

  • @Vimge4
    @Vimge4 5 місяців тому +2

    Interesting to hear you linking The Bolter to Evermore. Every time she goes “started with a kiss, oh we must stop meeting like this…” my mind goes straight to “our song was the slamming screen door…” Maybe is what I have interpreted to be references to Rep. & Debut TV on the chorus, but “The Bolter” reminds me of “Our song.” Must be why I like it so much!

  • @heaveninhiding6970
    @heaveninhiding6970 5 місяців тому +40

    This is the only valid TTPD tracklist btw!

  • @SymphonyOfNaked
    @SymphonyOfNaked 5 місяців тому

    I love listening to you talk about I Hate It Here because I'm not a big fan. Mixing phrases like "finance guy" and "lunar valleys in my mind" creates a tone that feels awkward and disjointed to me. BUT I love how you explain what you love about it, and this is the only corner of swiftiedom that I feel can think and be critical at this level and not just mindlessly trying to find agreement on all things. So, thanks for the great work as always!

  • @AlexRoshanStewart
    @AlexRoshanStewart 5 місяців тому +18

    I clicked faster than you could say saboteur

  • @PiLarTheStarlet
    @PiLarTheStarlet 2 місяці тому +2

    I love your new track listing! I’m going to listen tonight 😊

  • @dakotalee6990
    @dakotalee6990 5 місяців тому +24

    I’ve found I like Cassandra a lot more when I think of it as a fictional story about someone who was friends/lovers with “Cassandra” and was ostracized by the same people who killed her. It’s one of my favorites in that light.

    • @KateCat420
      @KateCat420 5 місяців тому +2

      This interpretation gags me so hard, I LOVE it

    • @jillsarah7356
      @jillsarah7356 5 місяців тому +1

      Ooh love this interpretation

    • @happycommuter3523
      @happycommuter3523 5 місяців тому

      Interesting! That song stuck me as a woman’s experience of not being believed.

    • @dakotalee6990
      @dakotalee6990 5 місяців тому +1

      @@happycommuter3523 it definitely is! In the story I’m imagining, Cassandra was trying to expose the corruption of a powerful family who took her out and Taylor had always maintained that Cassandra was right, which is why she’s ostracized. Then years later when the truth comes out, no one acknowledges it of the suffering they put her and Cassandra through.