Sony Fx3 Vs The Lumix S5 Ii X: Which Camera is Right for You?
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- Today's video is all about finding the perfect tool for your creative work. I'm putting two amazing cameras against each other: the Lumix S5 II X and the Sony FX3. Why did I ditch one and kept the other?! Find out in the video.
In this fun and informative comparison, we focus on what matters most to you as a content creator:
Video Quality: Looking at color, clarity, and feel.
Features for Creators: Video, photo etc.
I'm keeping it real and practical, just the way you like it. No overly technical jargon, just straight-up advice from one creator to another.
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
00:53 Why switch from FX3 to S5II X
02:47 S5 II X pros
04:26 What camera should you choose?
05:26 S5 II X autofocus?!
07:14 Image quality, usability and grading
08:20 OPEN GATE, the dream for content creators
10:07 S5II X con
10:48 Outro
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I sold my A7siii and ended up with the S5 ii and I love it.
Yeah man I follow you on that one! Looked at you 24-70 video, looks amazing man. Almost rethinking my buy of the sigma now 🤦🏻😂
Thanks. Very good info.
Thank you for watching! anything else you wanna know?
Great video!
Thanks bro🙏🏼 happy you like it 🙌🏼
The only thing SONY has are its power zoom lenses with the zoom rocker (Panasonic I don’t believe supports that, but correct me if I’m wrong)
Noni think that is a correct statement for sure💪🏼 I almost forgot about those lenses 😅
These 2 are probably the best right now. I had to decide if i wanted that slightly higher quality with ssd (which i really wanted), or the low light and better AF with the fx3. I did choose the fx3, but when i get the budget for a second camera, its going to the s5iix
I can definitely agree with you on that one, for me I sold the fx3 and went with the ii x due to the fact that a lot of customers also want me to do shoots for photo.. then the fx3 severely lacks.. also I love the fact I can shoot open gate, even tho in camera it is 10-bit 420 and not 422 when in open gate but I’ll survive that😅
Good, honest and interesting review.
The sole reason I will not buy this camera is because I hate side hinged flippy rear screens. Too slow and conspicuous.
Fair enough, I can get behind that! What camera are you rocking?
All your points are why i choose Lumix over Sony.
Started with an s5ii and just ordered a s5iix + 50mm last week for €1699 (including the cashback) here in the Netherlands.
Cameraland still got a deal on the s5iix for the body only €1599!
Thats an insane value for what you are getting.
Also I worked on an video with the fx3, loved the formfactor and af. Hated the menus and disliked the colors .
Great video and keep it up!
Dude that’s an awesome deal🙏🏼👌 I’m still waiting for my cashback from Panasonic :):) and yeah I get what you mean with the colors of the fx3.
But that’s the thing here in the Netherlands, they do love their Sonys 🙈😅 but yeah.. what are you going to do?:)
wow it is an insane deal, can you tell me in which store you can have such a deal ?
@@ouzijoee as im from the netherlands, there were some deals at Cameraland, Cameranu, Fotogroep, not sure if they are still on sale at this point.
Feels like there is always a campaign on lumixes 🙈
@@AlexReinholdsson and glad so😂 I'm able to buy more camera's for cheap🙏
How is the rolling with these cameras? I've been shooting on Lumix micro 4/3rds but, I want to go full frame now. However, I hear the S5iix rolling shutter is kinda bad?
Yeah it is not very amazing tbh. But on the other hand. It is not the worst thing I have ever tried :p
Det här är perfekt för våra shorts. Vi har de i 1x1, 9x16 och 16x9. Är S5 ii x lätt att ställa in?
Det är lätt, det går snabbt. Man måste bara tänka till lite men det är extremt enkelt! Tack för intresset!
How do you compare the image quality of S5ii and Fx3/fx30
It is not a scentifical way, I just look at the image and see how i like it.. I think that image quality is very subjective:)
I personally love the fx3 and I would never change due to it being so well used in the industry
I hear you, especially in the Netherlands where I do most of my work at the moment. But I have a feeling it will change. But we’ll see
I see a lot of people going for Sony because they see other people working with it. Including my friends. I still went with the S5IIX and I couldn't be happier. Prettiest colors SOOC in a cheaper body with unbeatable IBIS. Waiting for the upgrade of the AF from the G9II and hopefully a S1HII on the way.
@@daniellrodriguezs you think the s5 ik will get the g9 af Update?🙌🏼
But yeah totally get what you mean. Almost a big UA-cam hype as well, massive creators preaching:)
I'm excited to see what the FX3 successor will be like since it's such an old camera now. It should blow the Lumix away especially if it has a global shutter.
@@VeganLinked yeah probably, but Panasonic will probably announce their follow up for the s1 as well so it will be exciting times. But I am curious whether Sony will announce an fx3 Mk ii first or actually announce and fx6 mk2 or a a7s iv. What do you think?:)
Ahh.. sony fx3 getting a fw update with shutter angle and other stuff :) but still i was thinking to get sony a7iv, but choosed lumix s5iix, more pros thans cons :) also more affordable for starting and can buy other accessories for the money difference :)
Yeah I saw the update, but it is also planned to release in September 😅🤦🏻 why announce and the. Let people wait for more than half a year.
But as you say, the pro far exceed the cons with the s5ii x, even tho there are some annoying things showing. But will make a follow up movie soon :)
Is the S52x a good choice for Music Videos?
I would definitely say that. Especially for handheld shots with the help of the great in body IS. What’s your concerns?:)
Been with Lumix sine the S1 now I have the s5x, these cameras are super rich when it comes to features
Yeah man that is true. And with the new autofocus update it is even better. Buuuut, so
Much sharpening going on 😱
@@AlexReinholdsson ? sharpening to the actual image? If that's what your referring too my S5x is definitely sharper than my S1 and more of a saturated image and I notice more green in the image. But I love them both. I just became a fan of auto focus with the x, it was trust issues for me before...
@@ShellyBHollis yeah it is a lot sharper than in the s5 mk1 actually.
does lumix s5 ii have wifi or bluetooth control app like sony? It would be helpful for solo video creator for me at least
Yeah it does, it’s a solid app as well :) so it is an easy camera to use as a solo creator. Easy and fast to connect. I had some issues back and forth with the Sony ones and the creator app, not always but sometimes
@@AlexReinholdsson ahh thats great i havent see anyone did a video about the lumix all with the s5 ii. That's why I'm still holding back to switch to s5ii from xt4
There is no video with the app? Maybe I’ll have to do one then :)
Hey I'm going to buy a camera. My requirements are best autofocus, good low light, best colors, best dynamic range, best image quality overall. Fx3 vs S5 iix. Please help me, I'm confused 😕
Hey man, yeah it is a struggle for sure.. but I'm here to do what I can for you
I mean for autofocus and low light.. even tho the Lumix s5 ii x is good in both, the FX3 is still a lot sharper on this area, it pains me to say.
When it comesto colors, there I do think that the panasoci is superior, easy to grade and a lot of information, same with image quality. I do like the image of the Lumix a bit better but I also think that it is to taste.
Will you be using an extarnal monitor with it form time to time?
Also, will you only do video or also photos ?
So I have been using a6600s I have three of them and I've been using them for 3 years. I recently bought the FX30 but I could return it. The idea was to get the FX3 next and use these instead of the a6600s. But maybe I should just send the FX30 back and get two of these Lumix. I'm all video. And I've never had full frame so I'm really excited about getting it. I don't know if I'll do 6K much though because I'm afraid of using too much space. I'm already having space issues. I think my biggest concern with the Lumix would be the focus. I do a lot of interviews where I'm running the cameras and interviewing the person so I'm not really paying attention to the camera and depends on the cameras focus system. I wonder if you think I should stick with Sony... But a lot of times these interviews are just talking heads so maybe if the Panasonic has like focus zones or something I can set it up to where I don't need to worry about it?
Hey man! That sounds like a solid setup you have since earlier. As I mentioned in the video, before the s5 ii and s5 ii x the autofocus has been horrendous to be honest but with the mark 2 they implemented phase autofocus and it is so good. Not as sticky as the Sony as I said but for talking heads and simple things it will do the job as good for sure. I have seen that the camera now are down to like 1600 € for some campaigns so check it out. But I am quite certain that you would really love the s5 ii x, it will take a few uses to get used to it for sure but grading it is sooooo much easier!
Thanks for the response! When you say it grades easy, what codec do you suggest for the smallest file, 24fps with 10-bit 422.
I've been shooting h.265 on the Sony cameras, xvac 4k 8bit 420 for several years and it cuts in renders easy for me. But I just started experimenting with the higher bit rates on the FX30 and it definitely is harder to cut for my processor and renders takes a lot longer. Better love having the dynamic range and potential for grading.
Well with the Sonys, my computer actually have an easier time working with the 422 10-bit xavc-I since it is less compressed and therefore easier to work with than the smaller 422 10-bit long gop files.
Same with the s5 ii x, I always shoot the all I because it is less compressed and easier for the computer to handle, makes sense?
What program do you use for editing and grading?
@@AlexReinholdsson Right now I'm just using premiere. I hate premiere, well I like premier, but I hate Adobe. But I'm so deep in projects that I already started in premiere that I can't move to DaVinci just yet. I want to move to DaVinci but I would really like a keyboard shortcut file for DaVinci that matches premiere first. I mean I could set it up in DaVinci it's just I spend so much time editing the last thing I want to do is be on the computer trying to figure out another program, right now anyways. But DaVinci has almost reached the point of being too irresistible.
@@AlexReinholdsson but yeah, all that makes sense! I'll have to see which codec I was using in my FX30. Thanks for sharing!
Listen people . Once you go lumix . You stay lumix . You sony/ canon always have videos saying you’re switching . But you rarely see lumix videos about switching . Lol . Welcome to the family . The S1H2 will bring even more fans . Because the S1H was one of the best cameras of the decade .
I hear what you are saying. The only things that annoy me is the slow mo crop and mostly the hdmi lag, that one kills me. Otherwise I love it, some oversharpening might be going on but can live with that :)
Can’t wait to see the s1h MK ii also
@@AlexReinholdsson great video btw . Great points .
Thanks man, I appreciate it:)
@@AlexReinholdsson I always turn down sharpening in the color profile of the camera, you can adjust it manually then it's fine.
Alex, what are your thoughts on matching the Amira and S5II X? I Saw that this film was shoot on the s1H and Mini LF ua-cam.com/video/RhJLh0NPmco/v-deo.html . Anyways these are the two Cameras and color science I gravitate towards. I'd lov to hear your thoughts on what the amira does better than the S5IIX in your opinion or why you might choose the amira over the s5IIX? thanks!
That’s a good question. But what the Amira does better than the s5 ii x is pretty much everything 😅 jokes aside.. an arri has beautiful colors and a highlight roll off to die for. But it is very big, heavy and a super 35 sensor. Which is not an issue some times and sometimes it is.
The image in the Amira is a lot more organic and the s5 ii x has a pretty sharp image even when sharpness turned down. But they do match pretty easy, especially in resolve when working with color space transforms.
So from the “cheaper” cameras to match arri I’d say that the colors of the lumix is good especially if you need a decent autofocus. However, if you can love with manual focus, I would probably go with the new blackmagic which has beautiful colors and a raw capability, what’s your thoughts?
@@AlexReinholdsson thanks for the response Alex!
I recently used the Amira on a project and fell in love with just about everything but the weight! Im thinking I will end up with an Amira and S1h or s5iix... I know the sh1 has an OLPF that cuts some of the sharpness out. This combo for me may be the best of a Cine-Doc run and gun kit... I do like that both systems can rock and roll with just media, lens and battery. Everything I have seen with blackmagic one has to rig it out and while I am trying to prioritize image with simplicity and reliability. I have had a hacked gh2 since 2013 and use it as a webcam now but its still rocking!
I may post back if i get them both. Got a doc this year, just getting pitches and funding sorted. Thanks Man!
Yeah the Amira is amazing on all accounts except. But as a doc cam it is unbeatable, the colors and usability. But also, the fx6 form factor is ridiculously good also.
Let me know, curious:)
What about the rolling shutter ? I have the gh5 and the rolling shutter starts to be very anoying. Aha
The rolling shutter is there for sure, so if you want something that reads out super fast maybe check the GH7? if you already have an ecosystem of lenses and stuff? ua-cam.com/video/0PCGDxohpz0/v-deo.html my video on the gh7
The price difference leans to the S5iix
That is a very reasonable statement as well:) I think they both have a lot of plus and of course some minuses but I’m still, only like one month in tho, but I’m still extremely happy with mine
Hdmi output lag to external monitor is a big problem for the s5mkiix. I own the camera and this lag is unforgivable imo.
Yeah, that one is terrible to be honest. I hate it for that reason but many times I do not need an external monitor. Also, when connecting an external monitor to the fx3, I is goes away 🤷🏻♂️
@@AlexReinholdsson yeah I can work without an external monitor a lot of times too but it would be nice to have the option. Do you think that they will fix it with a firmware update?
From what I’ve heard I don’t think so cause it is the same in the s5 as well I think. Don’t quote me on it but I think Luca told me that.
@@AlexReinholdsson Wow I hoped it would be. Why do you think panasonic let this happen? It's a video oriented camera... i dont get it.
Ben je nederlands trouwens?
S5IIX should actually be compared to the A7IV/FX30. Being that people are starting to compare it to the FX3 says a lot about how great the camera is!
Can you elaborate on how your'e thinking with this? :)
@@AlexReinholdsson price, and the S5IIX to me is more a APSB camera than full frame 7
@@kingcutttt yeah okay I see what you mean. But in terms of function and sensor it is closer to the fx3 than the other ones. It is a viable fx3 option where it in my opinion only looses on two points. Crop in slow no and low light.. okay 3, autofocus as well
Lumix S5x camera have Any skinn softness features like sony zve10 ??
Hi, no, not in that way. What I do would recommend you to use instead is something called a mist filter, like a black pro-mist or a bloom gold.. that makes the skin smoother and gives the entire image a slight less digital look
Not if you program your mode M1 to 24 fps with the proper shutter speed, and M2 for the 60FPS with the proper shutter speed.
You mean with the fx3?
The FX3 yes. Although shutter angle’s coming with the next update Sony announced. It’s on m1 by default for me, need the 60fps I press mode, switch it to M2 and voila. Proper FPS with proper shutter angle
Yeah sure, in a way!:)
With the proper shutter speed *
Yeah I got that part :)
Neither, used Canon C70 (3300-4000USD) with 12 bit internal raw, 10 stop VND, shutter angle, false color, etc. 🤓
yeah, also an amazing camera with good colors. Tried it out. Not a fan of the form factor, super 35 sensor and the native RF mount (tho RF will be nice in future when more lenses arrive) Also 1900€ more expensive here than the s5 ii x. But yeah, internal vnd is amazing, shutter angle is available in the s5 ii x. False color is nice, not using it as much as I should but I also like the waveforms and vectorscope with the Lumix!
But I ca understand you love your camera! :D
Definitely not a fan of that Canon either. 🛑
@@8020Alive yeah? Had a bad experience?
@@AlexReinholdsson apsc. Rented it twice and it's bulky for apsc.
@@8020Alive oh yeah, you’re talking about the c70 specifically I guess? Not like the c300 mark3 for example:)
One big issue i find \with the s5iix, you have terrible, i mean terrible rolling shutter when you add an ND filter. shooting with a sirui 50mm, ND filter, 180 degrees, f2.2, 24fps, at base iso of 640 during the day time, everything looks jello
Really? I haven’t actually used in such a scenario yet😨 good to know. But just with an nd? Not without?
@@AlexReinholdsson that’s the trippy part. I was showing my wife the issue, so I thought you would see the jello film without the ND, well the rolling shutter did not appear until after I added the ND FILTER…. Not sure if because of the amount of light is being introduced, it could mess with the sensor? I’m not sure … do you use any stabilization? Like I know the camera has an anamorphic stabilization
@@jonathanfang9612 fair enough, feels weird but I don’t know?🙈 yeah I use stabilization sometimes, tried the anamorphic also, but to fast to give it a verdict but😅 and you? Your A cam?
@@AlexReinholdsson so far yes it is my A cam. Decided to invest into this because it was cheaper, but with great video specs. Thinking about returning it a going with a fx3 :/ but after talking to some people, an issue that may be causing the rolling shutter is the e stabilization. Going to try it again without stabilization
@@jonathanfang9612 ah okay I see, might be the reason for sure. I’ll look into it as well. But yeah, the fx3 is also a great camera but it is also a lot of trade-offs.. so depending on what you do mostly you’ll have to see what camera to go with :)