There actually is a technical reason for the 4k60 crop, which is the rolling shutter. The camera needs to be able to read out the sensor 60 times a second, so it has a maximum of 16.67ms to do that, however the readout time for the S5II is closer to 22ms (CineD testing). When croping in to the image, the camera just has to read out a portion of the sensor, which of course takes less time.
this explains why lumix rolling shutter performance is so much better than similar sony cams. still would be nice if they found a way to use the full sensor & also make the readout quick enough.
@@kevinbillington9773 well that one does have problems since having a global shutter can give you more noise unless a bsi global shutter can be a thing
@@ayoubtrif3761 what you plan on doing with the camera? Hobbyist; taking pictures/video of family? bird or wildlife? sports? Instagram? Pro work; weddings, events, profesional ad, movies etc. Do you plan on taking more images or doing more video? What kind of conditions do you want to shoot in? I know a camera seems just that, a camera, but there are alot of different cameras that are based for different aspects, and will be fitted with the features accordingly. If you are generally just starting any camera from Sony's A6xxx line (something like a used a6100 or a6400) will be amazing for starterts and what it offers. Those cameras have good resale value and are in demand, from there u can figure out what you like more and step up in that direction. Feel free to ask any more questions and try to answer my questions as much throughly as u can, as that well greatly help narrow down the camera selection.
I currently have 2 Canon cameras (R6 and an R8). I'm a hybrid shooter that shoot photos mainly. However, I have been shooting more and more videos. I got to play around with my friend's S5IIX and found that the videos just come out so much nicer. So I ended up ordering an S5IIX and waiting for it to come in. You, Sam, are the reason why I ordered an S5IIX. Thanks for making informative videos on this camera.
Thing #4: It's a stereo thing absolutely 😊 When using RØDE wireless and two transmitters you can get separate audio on these channels and eq/tune them separately. With Davinci Resolve I just deselect audio track 2,3 and 4 before I drag the clip to the timeline = problem solved 😊
Great points Sam. I have the S5II and agree it's my 'almost' perfect hybrid camera especially for the price. As for the audio 'issue' I always shoot on two tracks per mic. One track at what I consider to be optimal volume and one around 6db lower just in case of clipping. I almost always use 4 tracks and two mic systems now (a shotgun mic on T1+2 via XLR and a wireless mic like the DJI Mic on T3+4 via the 3.5 input) also one at 'optimal' (1+3) and one at 6db lower (2+4). When I import to FCP I tick the box to delete empty audio tracks for those times I only use one mic and then I grab all the interview clips, select them all in the browser, open the Inspector and deselect T2 which applies the deselection to all of the clips at once. If there are any clipping issues I can always switch to T2 when needed. BTW in order to record at different levels on T1+2 via the XLR adapter you need to have what's called a 'Y' cable that connects to your Mic and then can plug into both input 1 and 2. The adapter then treats it as two separate mics so that you can adjust the volume of each track independently. Anyway I love your videos, and as other's have said your videos last year were very helpful in deciding to go for the S5II.
I feel like a lot of these "issues" are nit picky. I have the Lumix s5iix and love it. quality is great, options are great, it's a good camera overall. I think the issue is there is so much competition out there that if you are constantly comparing, you'll find yourself in a situation like this. " I like this better, this could change like that camera etc."... Enjoy the great camera and focus on making awesome content.
Especially the fact that he brought up the cheaply build quality feel. I mean… I rock an RP and I could give two sh*ts about what any photographer thinks about what I’m using. I literally have almost 15yrs of experience shooting and although I’m not like “the best”, I know what I am doing and can generate some absolutely amazing photos SOOC. I could say I’m better than some others using an R5 with L lenses bcuz of experience but I don’t care to. Why? Bcuz my work is what makes me stand out. 😊
I’m now starting to use my S5IIx more frequently as I’ve started making specific content on here and I really love this camera, especially since the recent firmware update. The autofocus and stabilisation is nuts. My non-major gripes are the slow mo crop, bit of lag doing certain things and occasionally the rolling shutter, but that doesn’t affect me too often and doesn’t apply really in 50fps. If what I heard about the slow start up is true, that doesn’t bother me. You prob know this, but its when its not been used for more than a few hours or so, in order to preserve the longevity of the battery. Bit annoying if in a hurry, but tends to only be the first boot up of the shoot so I’d just start it up earlier if I knew I’d be in a hurry.
Also what is great is Lumix'es deals on their lens packages. Recently a local store had a Lumix S5II with 24-105 f4 with two additional 35mm f1.8 and 50mm 1.8 primes included as a pack for around 3000k$. Insane value. Brand new A7IV for body alone is 2800$ in that same store.
Completely agree! No need for fancy features, just 1. Speed up load time 2. Maybe autofocus menu simpler 3. Remove crop on 4k 60fps So, we as a photographer/videographer can turn on the camera, point and shoot
As a wildlife photography hobbyist, I had to add the g9ii to my gh5ii and OG g9. There is something about the Lumix bodies in my hands. Maybe the Nikon z6iii will lure me in. Top Notch Content!
Two things in agreement. i came to Lumix from Nikon, for video. The z6 was good but hard to work with, mostly because I did not like the 709 luts for that system and n-log. The part about how the camera feels is true to me. I did a photo only shoot this weekend with and older D850 and it feels better. It was also much more money then and almost the same cost now as my s5II. That being said, my only real complaint is with the back button focus. That button seems a bit spongy to me. The other thing about lenses. Plastic does not bother me because it helps get weight down, but it would be good if they could find a way to not have plastic threads on the filter mounts or build in magnetics. The only other complaint is the manual focus not having true stops and the focus throws being really short. As to the remote app, it is way better than Nikon, but not dependable, at all. Thanks Sam
Lumix S5iix is mine and the best! Im using sonys fx3 at work about every 3 month, and it is very good. But the ergonomics and menus of s5ii are miles better. Also i struggle with the sony log settings every time! S5ii(x) is just the better overall fun package! Ah, i also take fotos, just for fun...
really love the build #lumix (not too big or small) and the typically knobs are all there for usual operations. custom buttons with long hold is #genius
The camera I own is the Sony A7RV which I LOVE! I haven’t thought about switching to Lumix because to me their lens selection is kind of not as broad as Sony and the auto focus is not as dependable as Sony or Canon. That’s the same reason why I haven’t gone to Fujifilm or Nikon.
For the past few years I've been shooting with a Samsung S, most recently the S22 Ultra in 4k and 8K. Right now, it's all I need and the video and photo quality is excellent when editing with Premiere Pro CC.
None of that bothers me personally. But coming from 20yrs of Nikon the biggest thing I hate on the Lumix is I cant see the buttons. Also while looking through the lens is hard to tell what mode your on. I would love also to see that switching between Camera and Video modes keep their last specific settings, ISO and Shutter for example. So if you are on the run and need to take a photo you dont need to change all your settings then when you switch back, do it all again.
It’s nice to see that most of these issues are pretty superficial and not that substantial. However it still certainly helps to know about them regardless
I switched last year from Sony to Lumix for 2 simple reason. 1. I feel like Sony now is trying to milk their customers and 2 my a7iv overheated multiple times even on high temperature setting. I still love the flagship of Sony but for a perfect affordable hybrid camera, I'm more than well satisfied with the S5IIX. Great video again by the way🎉
Looks like through your b-roll you're not using the fastest memory card your writing to both cards. Which usually means the speed of your slowest memory card is determined. I've used the Panasonic system for a very long time and if you do put slow cards in sometimes it can take ups at six seconds after you've stopped recording to continue writing.
I can’t thank you enough for helping my decision on either getting a Sony or a lumix. I watched the a7iv and lumix s5ii comparison and I was instantly swayed haha. Absolutely love my s5ii, and although there are some flaws, I came from a Nikon dslr, so I can’t complain 😅
I gotta say I agree with just about every point you made. I've used Lumix cameras for the last decade, going through the G5, GM5, GH5, G9, G80, G90, and the S5. I am however considering switching to Blackmagic. I've used (rented) the pockets and the Ursas for various jobs and I really like them. But going back to the Lumixes - something that annoys me greatly is the inability to NOT save WB settings to the custom presets. That means that you have to keep updating them in the settings constantly, which defeats the purpose of having them in the first place. Anyhoo, thanks for another great video. Cheers!
Not sure what you mean about custom white balance, because you can set custom white balance in any of the custom WB slots, then save the C1/2/3 preset.
Answer to most of them is Leica, SL3 and lenses. My Leica T (2014) never had a issue connecting to the app. The screen is visible in the sunlight. Leica SL3 transfers a 60mpx image to the app in seconds, more like 1-2 or 1-2-3 seconds max.
I've never noticed that lag in my S5 or S5ii, strange. And Lumix did discuss putting in a faster sensor for the S5ii to make it full frame at 4k60 and go beyond the current specs but it would have raised the price point of the camera to 3.5k-4k. So they opted not to. But could mean we see that in the next S1H...
I used Canon for years, but having my second camera fail in less than 5 years, I felt I need to make a change. Could not be more pleased with Lumix, and the latest update is just an added plus. I especially like the proxy recording capability.
When I first was shopping around for a camera I tested the feel of the different grips. One from Canon ones (can't remember the model) was perfect for my hand and it also looked great. The S5 on the other hand was pretty bulky and not super ergonomic, for example there is a pretty sharp edge where you put the right palm. On the S5II the shutter speed button both looks and feels pretty bad. I finally chose the S5 because they had a really good deal with both the kit camera and the 50 mm.
Great video. People appreciate hearing you tell both sides so it doesn't feel like you've sold out to a brand. The truth is you just like the cameras! Thanks for the review. I have noticed it takes a while for me to open playback on mine, and I don't think it's just after having recorded a video. Not a big deal
Two gripes for me so far. App. The connection can be confusing; Bluetooth or WiFi or what?! I can’t transfer images using a specific connection and can’t seem to transfer video to my iPhone. Also, the app is slow. The second gripe is the speed to read/write to memory is slow. Returning my S5 II to switch to S5 IIX so I can record externally. Hopefully i gain speed there.
I'm considering sending back my s5IIx for the FX3 mainly because of it's low light capability. S5IIx did do a great job recording northern light 5-11-24 but I want more stars
I'm really glad I stumbled on this video because I have been thinking to upgrade from my Fuji X-S10 to S5IIX probably. But I didn't know the camera starts up so slowly and writes to the card so slowly! Oh dear. My puny X-S10 starts and is ready to shoot under 1 second when I slip the power switch and writing to the card is almost immediate and I can start recording again. It's sometimes good to see these negatives before making decisions. I shoot motorsports and the speed of these things matter to me. Constantly powering on and off is the fact of life in this line of work to preserve precious battery life even when carrying few extras.
incremental sensor zoom is a HUGE thing that panasonic cameras are missing, especially with all of the adapted glass that we can put on it, being able to zoom in on the sensor without having to zoom on a lens or in post could be such a game changer. Also it's a feature that sony has and unfortunately so does JVC
I wanted to upgrade to a S5 IIx... but Braw is only available via hdmi, the new Nikon Z6 III have N RAW Internal... Still waiting for a S1H II... but if it takes too long, il will buy a Z8 or a Z6 III... come on Panasonic, wake uo, i'm in love with your color science !
I don't care about video, I'm a photographer. But I like your video, because it reinforces my opinion of Panasonic. My Sony A7c is perfect in terms of image and "rangefinder aim".... but with traces of numerous dust. This device is so compact that the sensor is a dust vacuum cleaner. So I prefer my A6600 which captures much less dust. But I can't stay at Sony. I'm eyeing the S5 (not the S5 II, too complicated with its vlogger fan). Bursts don't interest me, neither do writing times, nor do connections. And I need a wide angle like a 20mm; a good "basic" device, not too compact, but not too heavy suits me. Why not a Leica, you might say... I don't need a red dot; and then my Leica lenses, which I have had for a long time, and which I love, will be mounted on the S5. All is said. Kind regards.
As a Nikon-primary shooter, hoping for a FX30 competitor is the dream (Nikon is due for a proper APS-C body update), which doesn't sound crazy as much since they've started to tilt more toward video. But, if anyone will most likely pull of a FX30 match -- or killer -- it'd have to be Panasonic. And I'm cheering for them, too.
I use the S5II primarily for taking photos, I don't really make any videos. The lens line-up is good, and in addition to the (optically flawless) plastic-body lenses, the S-Pro lenses are always worth a try. They have a much better feel. And thanks to the L-mount, you can also use Sigma or Leica lenses. What actually bothers me about my S5II is that the rear dial is easy to turn accidentally. And the switch-on time is indeed a bit leisurely. But which camera delivers as much for the price as the S5II? I can't think of one.
I don't really get it. Sony is more popular because of - I don't know - better marketing? S5II(X) is like A7S3 but like for half of price. So at half of price there can be some differences - like 50/60p mode (so here you have your FX30, use APSC mode instead of full). But as you said. It the end image quality counts. I love color science Lumix so I choose that :)
Loved the insight on some of your cons with this camera. Curious, one thing I’ve been reading that has been making me hesitant with this camera is the monitor lag. Is it that bad with these cameras?
You mean like if you’re using an external monitor? I’ve honestly not noticed that. And I think that’s more to do with the monitor and cables maybe? 🤔 Thanks for watching 😃🙏🏻🎥
@@SamHolland good to hear! Yes I did mean an external monitor, forgot to add that in 😅 I purchased an S5 not too long ago to be a B cam/see if I liked the system enough to want to switch, and there was a ton of lag and a lot others said that about the S5 and other Lumix cameras, but haven’t seen much else about monitor lag on these newer models.
@@BenWeichler It's still pretty bad. Turning off audio output helps a bit but it is one of the camera's weaknesses. If you need super low-latency monitoring this is not the camera for you, unfortunately.
yeah the app is the thing i really want them to fix on the s5ii. the sony is just as bad. my cannon is also not great but by far the best in terms of the remote control
Still shooting Lumix S5 outside of the studio.... for the following reasons... and before I go there, I have shot with most film still cameras u cer the sun over the years, and Sony, Canon, Panasonic since the S-VHS days........ and so 1. It still does a fantastic job, 2. I dumped money into Black Magic goods for a live streaming studio... 3. Getting ready to move into a different house, where I will put together another studio as well as homestead a little, 4. Buying new real-estate so my investing money needs to go there to create more income..... 5. You can still start fires with Sony and Canon and their over heating issues while shooting 4k and above, so I am told..... which is not good when outdoors and their is fire hazard warnings in effect, or inside..... don't want to burn down the house do we.......... and 6. LUMIX does listen to us, the customer base.... and Sean does a great job on the Thrusday live streams answering questions etc...... there are a few of my reasons for sticking with Lumix.
Thank you for your video. The Wireless monitoring option is great but it lacks the focus pulling as in the Creator app compatible with the best cameras. Is there a Panasonic alternative hiding somewhere? Thank you.
Couldn't agree more on your lumix asks! Gh6 user, looking to go full frame upgrade, S5X isn't quiet worth it yet. Would love to see that fx3,6 style perhaps with inbuilt DJI Lidar, not sure if it would happen. Hopefully and EVA 2 is in the works.
I hope Panasonic is not listening. The handling and button layout is much better at the S5 II in my opinion. I can copy my photo raw files wireless to my iPad with the Panasonic app since years. It‘s still not possible to do that with the Sony app I think. But yes, the camera needs to be a bit faster. That would be nice. It would help to bring the autofocus and tracking performance on par with the G9 II too. 🙂
I've been through my fair share of cameras from Canon, Sony, Blackmagic, and Z Cam but I always come back to Lumix. If I do switch it will probably be for a best of both worlds camera like the Nikon Z8 or the Canon R5C. Great video!
I am in the market for a good video orientated camera. So far I am between FX30 and S5iix. I still can't decide because I want both the stabilization of Lumix and the rolling shutter of Sony. and I can't afford double and triple the price of the more expensive cameras right now. Tbh I wish for Lumix to have the rolling shutter fixed on a new camera with all the features that S5iix has. That would be the perfect camera for me!
I think the crop in 50fps and 60fps, is a big negative. I film in 50fps for a 50fps timeline, I hate 24fps, it stutters and looks soft. Also many apps re-render to 30fps anyway. Also 50fps, renders better on social media. So for me, having a crop is a negative.
I HATE the shutter button. For photos it doesnt matter too much, but for video it can mess me up. Ive had several times where I didnt realize I accidentally pressed it, or the opposite where I thought I pressed it and didnt. Its so mushy and un-tactile.
I use the S5ii and its such a good camera. For the price and specs. For me the camera is the bench mark for other camera brands. Camera users will always want more and more lol. Eventually they will be asking for a camera that edits for them lol. The questions why is the camera being bought for ? Do you want to be a UA-camr or a film maker ? Always think buying a camera like the S5ii/x just to be a UA-camr is a waste of a camera. I perfer to be behind the camera an use the camera as a Videographer so always get some much show. Haveing the fast AF on the S5ii has done wonder's .
Does anyone in this community know what the LCD screen magnification is for the S5iix? For example, the Sony a7III has a screen magnification of 12X.......
I've still never held a fx3 or 30, but I definitely prefer the feel of my g9ii to my a7iv. I'd love to get a full frame lumix at some point but I just love the lightweight lenses on the mft system and for me needs its more than enough. Great video Sam. Feels refreshing to hear someone talk about their dislikes. Sometimes these days every video I watch feels sponsored even when it's not.
#1 & #2 are soooo true and really bother me every time I use one of my LUMIX S camera.since the first S1 nothing has been improved regarding these 2 points. A real shame Please LUMIX work on these topics
I sort of feel like if Panasonic tries to compete with Somy more than they do the pr9ce difference will go away. My opinion.is that the.price to performance advantage (among other things ie IBIS) that lumix is known for would vanish. Just a thought
The ONLY thing that makes the S5 (Original) that makes it annoying to use for professional shoots is the HDMI latency. It's what makes me choose a Sony a6700 for manual focus (Ironically lol). So that probably goes under your 'faster processor' section. Oh and I forgot about the form factor. If this thing was cheaper and in a box format (like the BS1H) but retained ibis and had SDI, that would be great too. In summary, if this was the perfect camera, it would be the perfect camera.
Nice video but, fhe biggest (and I think the only real) issue was not mentioned: lack of OLPF Panasonic could solve this in S1H. It would be nice to have a phase detect AF camera without aliasing.
Interesting I’m not a fan of how the fx3 feels in terms of dials or hand grips. Also I actually dropped my fx once and the lens mount on my $2000 Sony lens broke off
We use the Sony FX3's at work and G9IIs and S5II and Sony's cameras feel nice in the hand. However to me the Panasonics feel great as well? Just different? If anything the FX3 felt like it was too simple. Where are all the buttons to do stuff sort of vibe. Its subjective, much prefer the Panasonic feel as it 'feels' more capable. That's the only way I can describe it. I want it to feel like I can control what im doing rather than it feeling 'nice' in the hand.
Hey man, i was a Sony user before getting a job in which i used Lumix every day, imo, Lumix cameras are more rugged and well built compared to Sony, that might just me though
Hello Sam❤, Is there a way to authenticate lumix camera(because I am buying a new S5ii off Facebook Marketplace), is there such thing as fake cameras? Anything like serial number that I can check. Please share thoughts 🙏🏻
Sam, listening to you it seems to me you were in danger of swallowing a camel and choking on a gnat. I shot Sony for over a decade, and it NEVER looked right. What specifically? Je ne sais quoi. but mostly greens, blues, and skin tones. It all made me crazy. Plus, the stabilization is garbage, and it can't be fixed internally in the camera because the e-mount diameter is too small for a full frame sensor. Yes, the autofocus is amazing. But all that does is make Sony a one trick pony. It's really cool to have the image well in focus, but it's not cool to have it shaky and difficult to control hand held. For me, I never looked at a Sony image coming out of my camera and thought, "Wow, that's beautiful!" But I am routinely astounded at how great the LUMIX image is, and the colors are so, so, so good. I don't see Sony as ahead in most areas of video. I seem them behind LUMIX in most categories. Now with this 2.0 firmware update there are so many things that are just stellar about the S5iiX. Everything else is just second class. I'm a bottom line guy. And the LUMIX bottom line, the image, is higher than any of the other/ I was testing IQ and skin tones yesterday, using the LUMIX S5iiX and my Canon C300 mk II, and the LUMIX blew it away--and it's so much easier to use. Plus I can shoot and edit in pro res. How cool is that?!? My one request?!? Let me shoot with internal Pro Res HQ in 6k! (Coming up in the S!H???!?!!? Of course, there are always improvements that can be made, but I truly LOVE the S5 series cameras. For the price there is nothing to compare. Let's just give LUMIX a grateful, "Thank you, LUMIX, thank you so much." and leave it at that. Of course, the S1H is also a knock out. I think much of what you're talking about might lie in an upgrade of that model. Some of my best footage has come for the S1H. Complaints? Just one: it's a bit heavy. Forget about the glitz of the Sony. After all these years, it never looks right. There's always weird stuff with color and IBIS. Maybe they need to make stabilized lenses that will work with internal IBIS?! Who knows? Who cares!!!?? I have a LUMIX. It's full speed ahead with them, and the major, bottom line things are all fixed. I stick with LUMIX because LUMIX has stuck with me. And Sony? Nothing important is fixed, after all these years. Make me crazy. LUMIX: value for money--they're untouchable. Smart brilliant design. And when they fix things they fix them. When Sony "fixes" things you have to buy a brand new model. My favorite camera? S5iiX, hands down.
I think it could be very interesting to see a normal S5III. With the current aesthetics and correcting the details mentioned. And then an S5IIIX... without a viewfinder. A more powerful fan, without having to limit anything at all. A body more like a film camera, and with a connector, for an external battery, for example. It could be something that makes a very cool difference.
LOL if you want viewfinder fidelity and quality then you need to go back to a DSLR and not ANY mirrorless camera. None of them will ever give you the same image quality of a mirror reflecting the actual image to the eyepiece, NONE and to say otherwise is a lie plain and simple until the EVF's are 20meg or better, LOL never going to happen
@@silbay I get you but I have a Canon EOS R and its view finder image is totally satisfying for my professional needs and much better than the S5II's EVF.
Question, do you have two LUMIX S5ii’s? What are you filming this with? This is a serious question btw. I’m looking for a great vlogging cam and I like the lens weight/gimbal feature aaannddd I like the quality of your videos 😅.
Hey Sam! Question for you as a negative from my s5xii. There seems to always be a touch of grain in the image, I spend a lot of time lighting and exposing and balancing properly. I really noticed the other day when I get sent some footage from someone else to edit and it was so clean! Any thoughts or tips on this?
Hey man. Hmmm 🤔 it could be a few things. What iso are you using? Are you using full frame, mode, not aps-c? Then like you mentioned, it comes down to the lighting or colours/shadows in the image. There’s a noise reduction feature inside the camera. You could have a play with that. Does it show after you put your conversion LUT on?
@@SamHolland good questions.. yeah it shows up after the conversion lut. I’m always on the native iso (640 or 4000) I feel like it is worse at 50p when it’s using APC but is still there at full frame 25. I’m going to run some test and see where it’s worst.
I've alternated using Canon, Nikon, at Lumix since 2012. For my most recent job, the company gave me free reign to order whatever camera equipment I wanted and I ordered the FX3 and all the Trinity lenses based off what videography UA-camrs recommended. It 100% feels way more premium, BUT once I started using it I felt indifferent about the feel. As a videographer I prefer Lumix best. The image quality, the colors, the menu system, open gate, IBIS, the ruggedness, etc. I hated the fx3 menu system with a burning passion. That alone made me not want to use it. The colors felt a little more magenta compared to Canon and Lumix. I'm waiting for the S1H II. Once that comes out, it's going to shake the videography world imo
After the announcement of a new firmware, which upgrades the s5ii/s5iix, I would expect, from you, comments and detailed presentation about it, not another "clickbait" video. Anyway. I only agree with "think 3", crop and slow motion. But as you say, which camera is perfect. Fx3 & fx30, you are referring to the only Sony cameras that don't overheat!!! For all the rest, the "conspiracy" of youtubers is so strong, for there to be absolute...silence. Yes Panasonic lenses "look cheap". But they seem to have struck a serious balance between quality and size and weight. I entered the world of Panasonic, with the s5iix, from Canon. I didn't regret it. And one last thing, the "feeling" of the camera when it's in your hands, something that's hard to describe, it's like the Canon I've been used to for so many years (so I haven't missed it...nothing...).
Love my Fuji X-H2. It is not the best, the smallest, lightest or the prettiest. But it is the best fit for me. Especially with the latest Firmware upgrade, I am considering adding the X-H2s to my collection 😅
The perfect camera only exists if you rig out an almost perfect camera to make it perfect, but it will only only be perfect for you and it might not be perfect for everybody else.
Sam Leica SL3 top premium .. L series lens.. How would that compare .. Ease of use image quality.. Interesting comparison In the end keep it simple and cheap if it does the job ... enjoy your vids
Always enjoy your videos, well almost always😂! No hate here but a quick audio tip, setup your audio timeline to mono by default before uploading or placing it on the timeline, well, in resolve at least, haven’t used other editors. I guess that with such a feature rich camera, selling at less than 2k, and currently with up to three kit lenses thrown in, a faster processor would raise the cost considerably, but i’d pay more for it in an S5ii or X.
Recording lag is obnoxious, needs to be fixed. Face/eye locking is a little glitchy too. I am fine with the crop on 60p. If I really want 60p full frame, I will film in ProRes HD and upscale using Topaz if necessary.
The app lag, no connect, connect then random disconnect drives me insane. Its a great app, i just wish we could use it. A few times its worked great.. other times I'm thinking is this the day?
What’s your favourite camera?? And why? Have you ever thought about switching??? 😀🎥 what a topic!
My S5, although part of me wishes I'd waited...
I do not switch, I just use different brands if I want. Favorite camera right now is S5 II and S5 and X-T4 and X100T 😂
S5ii :)
The s52x and black magic
we're basically all waiting for S1H2
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There actually is a technical reason for the 4k60 crop, which is the rolling shutter. The camera needs to be able to read out the sensor 60 times a second, so it has a maximum of 16.67ms to do that, however the readout time for the S5II is closer to 22ms (CineD testing). When croping in to the image, the camera just has to read out a portion of the sensor, which of course takes less time.
Perhaps, Lumix can introduce a feature that reads the user's thoughts and shows the search results. Even better. 😀
this explains why lumix rolling shutter performance is so much better than similar sony cams. still would be nice if they found a way to use the full sensor & also make the readout quick enough.
@@tankerbruja there is a way and that is by either using a faster processor or using a stacked sensor
Global shutter please.
@@kevinbillington9773 well that one does have problems since having a global shutter can give you more noise unless a bsi global shutter can be a thing
I have a Sony A7iv, Sony Fx30, lumix s5iix and this week I got an S5ii, updated it and for me at the moment my lumix are the best cameras.
Could yiu give me advice for cheap camra and good video
@@ayoubtrif3761 lumix g9
@@ayoubtrif3761 what you plan on doing with the camera? Hobbyist; taking pictures/video of family? bird or wildlife? sports? Instagram? Pro work; weddings, events, profesional ad, movies etc. Do you plan on taking more images or doing more video? What kind of conditions do you want to shoot in? I know a camera seems just that, a camera, but there are alot of different cameras that are based for different aspects, and will be fitted with the features accordingly. If you are generally just starting any camera from Sony's A6xxx line (something like a used a6100 or a6400) will be amazing for starterts and what it offers. Those cameras have good resale value and are in demand, from there u can figure out what you like more and step up in that direction. Feel free to ask any more questions and try to answer my questions as much throughly as u can, as that well greatly help narrow down the camera selection.
@@ayoubtrif3761 Nikon Z50, Z30, Zfc and Fuji xt30 ii.
Why did you get the s5iix and the S5ii?
I currently have 2 Canon cameras (R6 and an R8). I'm a hybrid shooter that shoot photos mainly. However, I have been shooting more and more videos. I got to play around with my friend's S5IIX and found that the videos just come out so much nicer. So I ended up ordering an S5IIX and waiting for it to come in. You, Sam, are the reason why I ordered an S5IIX. Thanks for making informative videos on this camera.
This is awesome! So glad you like it 😃🎥🙏🏻 thanks for watching
You won't be disappointed Sam made me do almost exactly the same .... 2 S5iixs and I love it .... I did keep my Canon R3 and a few lens for photos 😊
@@HiethGeorge that's awesome. I'm really excited for the camera. My friend is very happy with his S5IIX.
@@minhpham3112 Have fun
@@HiethGeorge exactly it isnt camera for photography
Thing #4: It's a stereo thing absolutely 😊 When using RØDE wireless and two transmitters you can get separate audio on these channels and eq/tune them separately. With Davinci Resolve I just deselect audio track 2,3 and 4 before I drag the clip to the timeline = problem solved 😊
Great points Sam. I have the S5II and agree it's my 'almost' perfect hybrid camera especially for the price.
As for the audio 'issue' I always shoot on two tracks per mic. One track at what I consider to be optimal volume and one around 6db lower just in case of clipping. I almost always use 4 tracks and two mic systems now (a shotgun mic on T1+2 via XLR and a wireless mic like the DJI Mic on T3+4 via the 3.5 input) also one at 'optimal' (1+3) and one at 6db lower (2+4).
When I import to FCP I tick the box to delete empty audio tracks for those times I only use one mic and then I grab all the interview clips, select them all in the browser, open the Inspector and deselect T2 which applies the deselection to all of the clips at once. If there are any clipping issues I can always switch to T2 when needed.
BTW in order to record at different levels on T1+2 via the XLR adapter you need to have what's called a 'Y' cable that connects to your Mic and then can plug into both input 1 and 2. The adapter then treats it as two separate mics so that you can adjust the volume of each track independently.
Anyway I love your videos, and as other's have said your videos last year were very helpful in deciding to go for the S5II.
I feel like a lot of these "issues" are nit picky. I have the Lumix s5iix and love it. quality is great, options are great, it's a good camera overall. I think the issue is there is so much competition out there that if you are constantly comparing, you'll find yourself in a situation like this. " I like this better, this could change like that camera etc."... Enjoy the great camera and focus on making awesome content.
Especially the fact that he brought up the cheaply build quality feel. I mean… I rock an RP and I could give two sh*ts about what any photographer thinks about what I’m using. I literally have almost 15yrs of experience shooting and although I’m not like “the best”, I know what I am doing and can generate some absolutely amazing photos SOOC. I could say I’m better than some others using an R5 with L lenses bcuz of experience but I don’t care to. Why? Bcuz my work is what makes me stand out. 😊
I’m now starting to use my S5IIx more frequently as I’ve started making specific content on here and I really love this camera, especially since the recent firmware update. The autofocus and stabilisation is nuts. My non-major gripes are the slow mo crop, bit of lag doing certain things and occasionally the rolling shutter, but that doesn’t affect me too often and doesn’t apply really in 50fps.
If what I heard about the slow start up is true, that doesn’t bother me. You prob know this, but its when its not been used for more than a few hours or so, in order to preserve the longevity of the battery. Bit annoying if in a hurry, but tends to only be the first boot up of the shoot so I’d just start it up earlier if I knew I’d be in a hurry.
That’s is true actually 👌🏻
I hope someday a manufacturer would implement a search function into the menu. Maybe LUMIX first?
Yes. This is a must
Agreed!
That was exactly my thought. The real game changer
Also what is great is Lumix'es deals on their lens packages. Recently a local store had a Lumix S5II with 24-105 f4 with two additional 35mm f1.8 and 50mm 1.8 primes included as a pack for around 3000k$. Insane value. Brand new A7IV for body alone is 2800$ in that same store.
Completely agree! No need for fancy features, just
1. Speed up load time
2. Maybe autofocus menu simpler
3. Remove crop on 4k 60fps
So, we as a photographer/videographer can turn on the camera, point and shoot
The crop is a physical limitation on the sensor readout speed. You can’t just remove it. The next model will have a faster readout and no crop.
Remove crop? 🤣🤣😂😂
@@AllThingsFilm1 Yes, maybe in a next model in case of hardware limitation.
But it's nice to switch between 30-60 without chaning a frame
I use a Kodak disposable on a DJI RS 4 Pro. The results are stunning.
As a wildlife photography hobbyist, I had to add the g9ii to my gh5ii and OG g9. There is something about the Lumix bodies in my hands. Maybe the Nikon z6iii will lure me in. Top Notch Content!
No point. Z6iii has barely any DR or high ISO advantage over a G9. Photons to Photos broke the bad news.
I hope that Panasonic watched this video till the end!
Everything was absolutely on point!!!
Thanks Sam for great video!! 😉🖐️
Two things in agreement. i came to Lumix from Nikon, for video. The z6 was good but hard to work with, mostly because I did not like the 709 luts for that system and n-log. The part about how the camera feels is true to me. I did a photo only shoot this weekend with and older D850 and it feels better. It was also much more money then and almost the same cost now as my s5II. That being said, my only real complaint is with the back button focus. That button seems a bit spongy to me.
The other thing about lenses. Plastic does not bother me because it helps get weight down, but it would be good if they could find a way to not have plastic threads on the filter mounts or build in magnetics. The only other complaint is the manual focus not having true stops and the focus throws being really short.
As to the remote app, it is way better than Nikon, but not dependable, at all.
Thanks Sam
I’m a beginner photographer and I started with the lumix s5 and I LOVE IT!
Lumix S5iix is mine and the best! Im using sonys fx3 at work about every 3 month, and it is very good. But the ergonomics and menus of s5ii are miles better. Also i struggle with the sony log settings every time! S5ii(x) is just the better overall fun package! Ah, i also take fotos, just for fun...
which one is good in low light? fx3 vs s52x?
really love the build #lumix (not too big or small) and the typically knobs are all there for usual operations. custom buttons with long hold is #genius
Has to be the rolling shutter that is the biggest grievance for me as much as I love my x
Just wish it was that bit faster
The camera I own is the Sony A7RV which I LOVE! I haven’t thought about switching to Lumix because to me their lens selection is kind of not as broad as Sony and the auto focus is not as dependable as Sony or Canon. That’s the same reason why I haven’t gone to Fujifilm or Nikon.
For the past few years I've been shooting with a Samsung S, most recently the S22 Ultra in 4k and 8K. Right now, it's all I need and the video and photo quality is excellent when editing with Premiere Pro CC.
None of that bothers me personally. But coming from 20yrs of Nikon the biggest thing I hate on the Lumix is I cant see the buttons.
Also while looking through the lens is hard to tell what mode your on. I would love also to see that switching between Camera and Video modes keep their last specific settings, ISO and Shutter for example. So if you are on the run and need to take a photo you dont need to change all your settings then when you switch back, do it all again.
yeah i am about to switch from canon only for video and go with lumix s5ii but for photo i still love my eos 1 ds mark iii
I think a "GH7X" with OLPF, internal ND and the newer generation Dual Gain sensor is what's needed to top the fx30.
It’s nice to see that most of these issues are pretty superficial and not that substantial. However it still certainly helps to know about them regardless
6:51 LUMIX do have the Pro lenses with Leica. I’m waiting for the new cameras and will be using those lenses.
I have the original S5 and just received my S5iiX. I'm not getting rid of my original S5...that's how much I'm digging Lumix right now.
I do the same, I noticed my s5 has better image quality in fhd 50/60 and 4k 25. S5iix in too sharp in 4k and fhd 50 is much better in s5.
@ArkadiuszLmx You can customize sharpness, contrast, saturation, etc for each profile 😉👌
@@GeekTherapyRadio I got it taken down to minimum as possible in s5iix, same way as in my s5.
I switched last year from Sony to Lumix for 2 simple reason. 1. I feel like Sony now is trying to milk their customers and 2 my a7iv overheated multiple times even on high temperature setting. I still love the flagship of Sony but for a perfect affordable hybrid camera, I'm more than well satisfied with the S5IIX. Great video again by the way🎉
Looks like through your b-roll you're not using the fastest memory card your writing to both cards.
Which usually means the speed of your slowest memory card is determined.
I've used the Panasonic system for a very long time and if you do put slow cards in sometimes it can take ups at six seconds after you've stopped recording to continue writing.
I can’t thank you enough for helping my decision on either getting a Sony or a lumix. I watched the a7iv and lumix s5ii comparison and I was instantly swayed haha. Absolutely love my s5ii, and although there are some flaws, I came from a Nikon dslr, so I can’t complain 😅
At least Sam the paint stays on the Lumix very well which you can not say of a Sony..... I use a S5 (2x) btw and I'm very happy. Same as you!
I gotta say I agree with just about every point you made. I've used Lumix cameras for the last decade, going through the G5, GM5, GH5, G9, G80, G90, and the S5. I am however considering switching to Blackmagic. I've used (rented) the pockets and the Ursas for various jobs and I really like them. But going back to the Lumixes - something that annoys me greatly is the inability to NOT save WB settings to the custom presets. That means that you have to keep updating them in the settings constantly, which defeats the purpose of having them in the first place. Anyhoo, thanks for another great video. Cheers!
Not sure what you mean about custom white balance, because you can set custom white balance in any of the custom WB slots, then save the C1/2/3 preset.
Answer to most of them is Leica, SL3 and lenses. My Leica T (2014) never had a issue connecting to the app. The screen is visible in the sunlight. Leica SL3 transfers a 60mpx image to the app in seconds, more like 1-2 or 1-2-3 seconds max.
I've never noticed that lag in my S5 or S5ii, strange. And Lumix did discuss putting in a faster sensor for the S5ii to make it full frame at 4k60 and go beyond the current specs but it would have raised the price point of the camera to 3.5k-4k. So they opted not to. But could mean we see that in the next S1H...
I used Canon for years, but having my second camera fail in less than 5 years, I felt I need to make a change. Could not be more pleased with Lumix, and the latest update is just an added plus. I especially like the proxy recording capability.
When I first was shopping around for a camera I tested the feel of the different grips. One from Canon ones (can't remember the model) was perfect for my hand and it also looked great. The S5 on the other hand was pretty bulky and not super ergonomic, for example there is a pretty sharp edge where you put the right palm. On the S5II the shutter speed button both looks and feels pretty bad.
I finally chose the S5 because they had a really good deal with both the kit camera and the 50 mm.
Yeh you kind of get used to all this tiny things and when you see the image, it’s worth it 👌🏻🎥
@@SamHolland Yeah I'm happy with my selection 😀 I chose logic before feel.
Great video. People appreciate hearing you tell both sides so it doesn't feel like you've sold out to a brand. The truth is you just like the cameras! Thanks for the review. I have noticed it takes a while for me to open playback on mine, and I don't think it's just after having recorded a video. Not a big deal
Thank you 😀🙏🏻🎥
I just updated my S5iix and WOW the new High setting IBIS is amazing! You literally don't need a gimbal 🤯
How bad is the warping with this on? I saw some footage with hella warping
2:41 i need to take off and on battery when my S5 hung when i want to review right after taking photos. This always happened during a photoshoot 😢
Two gripes for me so far. App. The connection can be confusing; Bluetooth or WiFi or what?! I can’t transfer images using a specific connection and can’t seem to transfer video to my iPhone. Also, the app is slow. The second gripe is the speed to read/write to memory is slow. Returning my S5 II to switch to S5 IIX so I can record externally. Hopefully i gain speed there.
I agree on the lenses. Feel the rubber picks up lots of dust and lint also...
I'm considering sending back my s5IIx for the FX3 mainly because of it's low light capability. S5IIx did do a great job recording northern light 5-11-24 but I want more stars
still on S1H, image is tops
Great camera
Yep still loving my s1h
still on gh4, film and photo are top :DD but switching soon to gh7
I'm really glad I stumbled on this video because I have been thinking to upgrade from my Fuji X-S10 to S5IIX probably. But I didn't know the camera starts up so slowly and writes to the card so slowly! Oh dear. My puny X-S10 starts and is ready to shoot under 1 second when I slip the power switch and writing to the card is almost immediate and I can start recording again. It's sometimes good to see these negatives before making decisions. I shoot motorsports and the speed of these things matter to me. Constantly powering on and off is the fact of life in this line of work to preserve precious battery life even when carrying few extras.
incremental sensor zoom is a HUGE thing that panasonic cameras are missing, especially with all of the adapted glass that we can put on it, being able to zoom in on the sensor without having to zoom on a lens or in post could be such a game changer. Also it's a feature that sony has and unfortunately so does JVC
I can relate. The app drives me mad. It would make filming SOOOO much easier WHEN it works. But its so inconsistent I just dont bother with it
I wanted to upgrade to a S5 IIx... but Braw is only available via hdmi, the new Nikon Z6 III have N RAW Internal... Still waiting for a S1H II... but if it takes too long, il will buy a Z8 or a Z6 III... come on Panasonic, wake uo, i'm in love with your color science !
I don't care about video, I'm a photographer. But I like your video, because it reinforces my opinion of Panasonic. My Sony A7c is perfect in terms of image and "rangefinder aim".... but with traces of numerous dust. This device is so compact that the sensor is a dust vacuum cleaner. So I prefer my A6600 which captures much less dust. But I can't stay at Sony. I'm eyeing the S5 (not the S5 II, too complicated with its vlogger fan). Bursts don't interest me, neither do writing times, nor do connections. And I need a wide angle like a 20mm; a good "basic" device, not too compact, but not too heavy suits me. Why not a Leica, you might say... I don't need a red dot; and then my Leica lenses, which I have had for a long time, and which I love, will be mounted on the S5. All is said. Kind regards.
As a Nikon-primary shooter, hoping for a FX30 competitor is the dream (Nikon is due for a proper APS-C body update), which doesn't sound crazy as much since they've started to tilt more toward video. But, if anyone will most likely pull of a FX30 match -- or killer -- it'd have to be Panasonic. And I'm cheering for them, too.
I use the S5II primarily for taking photos, I don't really make any videos. The lens line-up is good, and in addition to the (optically flawless) plastic-body lenses, the S-Pro lenses are always worth a try. They have a much better feel. And thanks to the L-mount, you can also use Sigma or Leica lenses.
What actually bothers me about my S5II is that the rear dial is easy to turn accidentally. And the switch-on time is indeed a bit leisurely.
But which camera delivers as much for the price as the S5II? I can't think of one.
Your review was Spot-On. A camera is just a tool and the image out of it is what matters. 👍
Thank you! 😃🙏🏻🎥
I don't really get it. Sony is more popular because of - I don't know - better marketing? S5II(X) is like A7S3 but like for half of price. So at half of price there can be some differences - like 50/60p mode (so here you have your FX30, use APSC mode instead of full). But as you said. It the end image quality counts. I love color science Lumix so I choose that :)
Loved the insight on some of your cons with this camera. Curious, one thing I’ve been reading that has been making me hesitant with this camera is the monitor lag. Is it that bad with these cameras?
You mean like if you’re using an external monitor? I’ve honestly not noticed that. And I think that’s more to do with the monitor and cables maybe? 🤔
Thanks for watching 😃🙏🏻🎥
@@SamHolland good to hear! Yes I did mean an external monitor, forgot to add that in 😅 I purchased an S5 not too long ago to be a B cam/see if I liked the system enough to want to switch, and there was a ton of lag and a lot others said that about the S5 and other Lumix cameras, but haven’t seen much else about monitor lag on these newer models.
@@BenWeichler It's still pretty bad. Turning off audio output helps a bit but it is one of the camera's weaknesses. If you need super low-latency monitoring this is not the camera for you, unfortunately.
yeah the app is the thing i really want them to fix on the s5ii. the sony is just as bad. my cannon is also not great but by far the best in terms of the remote control
Still shooting Lumix S5 outside of the studio.... for the following reasons... and before I go there, I have shot with most film still cameras u cer the sun over the years, and Sony, Canon, Panasonic since the S-VHS days........ and so 1. It still does a fantastic job, 2. I dumped money into Black Magic goods for a live streaming studio... 3. Getting ready to move into a different house, where I will put together another studio as well as homestead a little, 4. Buying new real-estate so my investing money needs to go there to create more income..... 5. You can still start fires with Sony and Canon and their over heating issues while shooting 4k and above, so I am told..... which is not good when outdoors and their is fire hazard warnings in effect, or inside..... don't want to burn down the house do we.......... and 6. LUMIX does listen to us, the customer base.... and Sean does a great job on the Thrusday live streams answering questions etc...... there are a few of my reasons for sticking with Lumix.
Thank you for your video. The Wireless monitoring option is great but it lacks the focus pulling as in the Creator app compatible with the best cameras. Is there a Panasonic alternative hiding somewhere? Thank you.
That would be great wouldn’t it! I’ve wanted MF in the app for ages
Couldn't agree more on your lumix asks! Gh6 user, looking to go full frame upgrade, S5X isn't quiet worth it yet. Would love to see that fx3,6 style perhaps with inbuilt DJI Lidar, not sure if it would happen. Hopefully and EVA 2 is in the works.
It has to happen soon surely?! 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
Very much a sony guy here, but im continuously tempted by the s5ii, if it wasnt for all the E mount glass I have Id probably have one already lol
Great cameras!
I hope Panasonic is not listening. The handling and button layout is much better at the S5 II in my opinion.
I can copy my photo raw files wireless to my iPad with the Panasonic app since years. It‘s still not possible to do that with the Sony app I think. But yes, the camera needs to be a bit faster. That would be nice. It would help to bring the autofocus and tracking performance on par with the G9 II too. 🙂
I've been through my fair share of cameras from Canon, Sony, Blackmagic, and Z Cam but I always come back to Lumix. If I do switch it will probably be for a best of both worlds camera like the Nikon Z8 or the Canon R5C. Great video!
Thank you 🤩🙏🏻🎥
I am in the market for a good video orientated camera. So far I am between FX30 and S5iix. I still can't decide because I want both the stabilization of Lumix and the rolling shutter of Sony. and I can't afford double and triple the price of the more expensive cameras right now. Tbh I wish for Lumix to have the rolling shutter fixed on a new camera with all the features that S5iix has. That would be the perfect camera for me!
I think the crop in 50fps and 60fps, is a big negative. I film in 50fps for a 50fps timeline, I hate 24fps, it stutters and looks soft. Also many apps re-render to 30fps anyway. Also 50fps, renders better on social media. So for me, having a crop is a negative.
I HATE the shutter button. For photos it doesnt matter too much, but for video it can mess me up. Ive had several times where I didnt realize I accidentally pressed it, or the opposite where I thought I pressed it and didnt. Its so mushy and un-tactile.
And it can broke really fast when you do many photos.
Sam, any insider news on their flagship update S1H2?
Sam, my favorite color is Canon but if Panasonic put out a small body like Sony I’d buy in a second
Hello, with what camera and lens did you record this video?
I use the S5ii and its such a good camera. For the price and specs. For me the camera is the bench mark for other camera brands. Camera users will always want more and more lol. Eventually they will be asking for a camera that edits for them lol. The questions why is the camera being bought for ? Do you want to be a UA-camr or a film maker ? Always think buying a camera like the S5ii/x just to be a UA-camr is a waste of a camera. I perfer to be behind the camera an use the camera as a Videographer so always get some much show. Haveing the fast AF on the S5ii has done wonder's .
Does anyone in this community know what the LCD screen magnification is for the S5iix? For example, the Sony a7III has a screen magnification of 12X.......
I love my S5iix but the crop at 50fps drives me crazy. We need full frame 120pfs. Come on Lumix!
I've still never held a fx3 or 30, but I definitely prefer the feel of my g9ii to my a7iv. I'd love to get a full frame lumix at some point but I just love the lightweight lenses on the mft system and for me needs its more than enough. Great video Sam. Feels refreshing to hear someone talk about their dislikes. Sometimes these days every video I watch feels sponsored even when it's not.
#1 & #2 are soooo true and really bother me every time I use one of my LUMIX S camera.since the first S1 nothing has been improved regarding these 2 points.
A real shame
Please LUMIX work on these topics
I sort of feel like if Panasonic tries to compete with Somy more than they do the pr9ce difference will go away. My opinion.is that the.price to performance advantage (among other things ie IBIS) that lumix is known for would vanish. Just a thought
The ONLY thing that makes the S5 (Original) that makes it annoying to use for professional shoots is the HDMI latency. It's what makes me choose a Sony a6700 for manual focus (Ironically lol). So that probably goes under your 'faster processor' section.
Oh and I forgot about the form factor. If this thing was cheaper and in a box format (like the BS1H) but retained ibis and had SDI, that would be great too.
In summary, if this was the perfect camera, it would be the perfect camera.
Nice video but, fhe biggest (and I think the only real) issue was not mentioned: lack of OLPF
Panasonic could solve this in S1H. It would be nice to have a phase detect AF camera without aliasing.
Interesting I’m not a fan of how the fx3 feels in terms of dials or hand grips. Also I actually dropped my fx once and the lens mount on my $2000 Sony lens broke off
Regarding the first point, I see some people saying it got better after the latest firmware. Really wanna hear your thoughts/findings
We use the Sony FX3's at work and G9IIs and S5II and Sony's cameras feel nice in the hand. However to me the Panasonics feel great as well? Just different? If anything the FX3 felt like it was too simple. Where are all the buttons to do stuff sort of vibe. Its subjective, much prefer the Panasonic feel as it 'feels' more capable. That's the only way I can describe it. I want it to feel like I can control what im doing rather than it feeling 'nice' in the hand.
Hey man, i was a Sony user before getting a job in which i used Lumix every day, imo, Lumix cameras are more rugged and well built compared to Sony, that might just me though
Hello Sam❤, Is there a way to authenticate lumix camera(because I am buying a new S5ii off Facebook Marketplace), is there such thing as fake cameras? Anything like serial number that I can check. Please share thoughts 🙏🏻
Gx 8 and gm5 have a premium feel.The Gx9 also bad dials and buttons.i think it is a new camera low cost problem.
Sam, listening to you it seems to me you were in danger of swallowing a camel and choking on a gnat.
I shot Sony for over a decade, and it NEVER looked right.
What specifically? Je ne sais quoi. but mostly greens, blues, and skin tones. It all made me crazy. Plus, the stabilization is garbage, and it can't be fixed internally in the camera because the e-mount diameter is too small for a full frame sensor. Yes, the autofocus is amazing. But all that does is make Sony a one trick pony.
It's really cool to have the image well in focus, but it's not cool to have it shaky and difficult to control hand held.
For me, I never looked at a Sony image coming out of my camera and thought, "Wow, that's beautiful!" But I am routinely astounded at how great the LUMIX image is, and the colors are so, so, so good.
I don't see Sony as ahead in most areas of video. I seem them behind LUMIX in most categories.
Now with this 2.0 firmware update there are so many things that are just stellar about the S5iiX.
Everything else is just second class. I'm a bottom line guy. And the LUMIX bottom line, the image, is higher than any of the other/
I was testing IQ and skin tones yesterday, using the LUMIX S5iiX and my Canon C300 mk II, and the LUMIX blew it away--and it's so much easier to use. Plus I can shoot and edit in pro res. How cool is that?!?
My one request?!? Let me shoot with internal Pro Res HQ in 6k! (Coming up in the S!H???!?!!?
Of course, there are always improvements that can be made, but I truly LOVE the S5 series cameras. For the price there is nothing to compare. Let's just give LUMIX a grateful, "Thank you, LUMIX, thank you so much." and leave it at that.
Of course, the S1H is also a knock out.
I think much of what you're talking about might lie in an upgrade of that model. Some of my best footage has come for the S1H. Complaints? Just one: it's a bit heavy.
Forget about the glitz of the Sony. After all these years, it never looks right. There's always weird stuff with color and IBIS. Maybe they need to make stabilized lenses that will work with internal IBIS?! Who knows? Who cares!!!?? I have a LUMIX. It's full speed ahead with them, and the major, bottom line things are all fixed.
I stick with LUMIX because LUMIX has stuck with me.
And Sony?
Nothing important is fixed, after all these years. Make me crazy.
LUMIX: value for money--they're untouchable. Smart brilliant design. And when they fix things they fix them. When Sony "fixes" things you have to buy a brand new model.
My favorite camera? S5iiX, hands down.
Agreed! 👏🏻😀🎥
I think it could be very interesting to see a normal S5III. With the current aesthetics and correcting the details mentioned. And then an S5IIIX... without a viewfinder. A more powerful fan, without having to limit anything at all. A body more like a film camera, and with a connector, for an external battery, for example. It could be something that makes a very cool difference.
I love my Lumix S5II! The only thing bothering me is the evf... It's just not fun to take photos with cause the quality is just not good enough.
LOL if you want viewfinder fidelity and quality then you need to go back to a DSLR and not ANY mirrorless camera. None of them will ever give you the same image quality of a mirror reflecting the actual image to the eyepiece, NONE and to say otherwise is a lie plain and simple until the EVF's are 20meg or better, LOL never going to happen
@@silbay I get you but I have a Canon EOS R and its view finder image is totally satisfying for my professional needs and much better than the S5II's EVF.
Yup, the r6ii EVF is a treat. I have both in my hand right now and it feels/looks cheap on the s5iix
Question, do you have two LUMIX S5ii’s? What are you filming this with? This is a serious question btw. I’m looking for a great vlogging cam and I like the lens weight/gimbal feature aaannddd I like the quality of your videos 😅.
Hey Sam! Question for you as a negative from my s5xii.
There seems to always be a touch of grain in the image, I spend a lot of time lighting and exposing and balancing properly.
I really noticed the other day when I get sent some footage from someone else to edit and it was so clean!
Any thoughts or tips on this?
Hey man. Hmmm 🤔 it could be a few things. What iso are you using? Are you using full frame, mode, not aps-c? Then like you mentioned, it comes down to the lighting or colours/shadows in the image. There’s a noise reduction feature inside the camera. You could have a play with that. Does it show after you put your conversion LUT on?
@@SamHolland good questions.. yeah it shows up after the conversion lut.
I’m always on the native iso (640 or 4000)
I feel like it is worse at 50p when it’s using APC but is still there at full frame 25.
I’m going to run some test and see where it’s worst.
I've alternated using Canon, Nikon, at Lumix since 2012. For my most recent job, the company gave me free reign to order whatever camera equipment I wanted and I ordered the FX3 and all the Trinity lenses based off what videography UA-camrs recommended. It 100% feels way more premium, BUT once I started using it I felt indifferent about the feel. As a videographer I prefer Lumix best. The image quality, the colors, the menu system, open gate, IBIS, the ruggedness, etc. I hated the fx3 menu system with a burning passion. That alone made me not want to use it. The colors felt a little more magenta compared to Canon and Lumix. I'm waiting for the S1H II. Once that comes out, it's going to shake the videography world imo
After the announcement of a new firmware, which upgrades the s5ii/s5iix, I would expect, from you, comments and detailed presentation about it, not another "clickbait" video.
Anyway. I only agree with "think 3", crop and slow motion.
But as you say, which camera is perfect. Fx3 & fx30, you are referring to the only Sony cameras that don't overheat!!!
For all the rest, the "conspiracy" of youtubers is so strong, for there to be absolute...silence. Yes Panasonic lenses "look cheap".
But they seem to have struck a serious balance between quality and size and weight.
I entered the world of Panasonic, with the s5iix, from Canon.
I didn't regret it.
And one last thing, the "feeling" of the camera when it's in your hands, something that's hard to describe, it's like the Canon I've been used to for so many years (so I haven't missed it...nothing...).
Thank you Sam! I hope Panasonic will listen to us, because we are fans of Lumix
I'm using S5 since 2 years ❤❤❤
Great video Sam will it handle low light weddings ? and dancing floor ? from autofocus perspective
Yes. More than enough. If you really need, you can go to the 4000 secondary iso! 👌🏻🎥
Love my Fuji X-H2. It is not the best, the smallest, lightest or the prettiest. But it is the best fit for me. Especially with the latest Firmware upgrade, I am considering adding the X-H2s to my collection 😅
I have the s5iiX and looking forward to the s1ii (Canon 1 series tough equivalent)
The perfect camera only exists if you rig out an almost perfect camera to make it perfect, but it will only only be perfect for you and it might not be perfect for everybody else.
Very well put.
Sam Leica SL3 top premium .. L series lens.. How would that compare .. Ease of use image quality.. Interesting comparison
In the end keep it simple and cheap if it does the job ... enjoy your vids
Always enjoy your videos, well almost always😂! No hate here but a quick audio tip, setup your audio timeline to mono by default before uploading or placing it on the timeline, well, in resolve at least, haven’t used other editors. I guess that with such a feature rich camera, selling at less than 2k, and currently with up to three kit lenses thrown in, a faster processor would raise the cost considerably, but i’d pay more for it in an S5ii or X.
In FF mode FHD 50-60p AF switches from PDAF to DFD. No FF slowmo with AF...
Recording lag is obnoxious, needs to be fixed. Face/eye locking is a little glitchy too. I am fine with the crop on 60p. If I really want 60p full frame, I will film in ProRes HD and upscale using Topaz if necessary.
Still love my S5 but I bought a Sony recently because of the Lumix crop on 60fps. I need full frame uncropped so unfortunately had to go elsewhere.
The app lag, no connect, connect then random disconnect drives me insane. Its a great app, i just wish we could use it. A few times its worked great.. other times I'm thinking is this the day?
Did you solve the 2 audio tracks problem?😊