RWD in the Snow - Good Bad & Sliding - Long Term FRS (GT86) #6 - Everyday Driver

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  • Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
  • Last year we did a film on our Long-Term FRS in a snow storm. After many questions about varied conditions and strategies, Todd ventures out to unplowed roads.
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  • @LPsunsmile
    @LPsunsmile 7 років тому +644

    I'm surprised ppl need to be reminded about winter tyres..here in Sweden it's illegal to not have winter tyres during the winter seasons..

    • @vali69
      @vali69 5 років тому +21

      Yee here in my country if u get pulled over and you dont have winter tires you gonna be goin home with a ticket...

    • @clemopcl
      @clemopcl 5 років тому +13

      Same here, even in globally-warmed central Europe

    • @onemilkyway
      @onemilkyway 5 років тому +2

      Tow truck company needs work and money.

    • @shanucfr
      @shanucfr 5 років тому +1

      same in Eastern Europe

    • @ranndino
      @ranndino 5 років тому +12

      A few times when I was talking about what a huge difference winter tires make to Americans I got laughed at.

  • @Trendyflute
    @Trendyflute 7 років тому +389

    Forget the GT86 content for a minute, this should be in driver's ed classes...well done.

    • @TopiasSalakka
      @TopiasSalakka 4 роки тому +19

      Learning car control in poor weather is a thing in Finnish drivers ed. I don't understand why it's not in USA and Canada.

    • @philspaghet
      @philspaghet 2 роки тому +1

      @riser It looks fine lol. Hideous is a strong word to use

  • @jdowg6
    @jdowg6 4 роки тому +238

    Good: it actually works
    Bad: feeling of death every second
    Sliding: enjoy the feeling of death

  • @vaderprime923
    @vaderprime923 7 років тому +184

    I have owned my first RWD car for 2 winters now and can unequivocally say that I will teach my kids to drive on a RWD car because I have learned more about car control in this 1.5 years than I did in the 6-7 years prior. Blizzaks from November to March, stay inside when I think I might get stuck, it's served me wonderfully and I look forward to forever owning RWD in the snow belt.

    • @mikaelafox6106
      @mikaelafox6106 6 років тому +5

      Kenny What RWD are you driving?

    • @MultiSneakerLover
      @MultiSneakerLover Рік тому

      @CHOCOMIL what do you think dummy

    • @ChicaneMedia
      @ChicaneMedia Рік тому +1

      ​​​@choco-milObviously you need all 4. Just getting 2 tires is really dumb and dangerous if you can't steer

    • @tunod-
      @tunod- 6 місяців тому

      @@ChicaneMedia You know absolutely nothing

  • @SoulCharter
    @SoulCharter 7 років тому +393

    Had my BRZ for 4 winters in a town that gets 110" yearly. Trust me, with snow tires, you will have less issues than anyone with AWD and all terrain tires. Also, don't forget, light cars stop easier, they just struggle to accelerate.

    • @bwxmoto
      @bwxmoto 7 років тому +38

      I guarantee you my Impreza with all seasons will crush your BRZ in any snowy conditions.. More clearance and more traction. I can go up scary steep unplowed hills where you wouldn't even make it 30 feet.

    • @rexmeng501
      @rexmeng501 7 років тому +47

      I believe you will crush with your all season

    • @bwxmoto
      @bwxmoto 7 років тому +10

      AWD Impreza with good all season is better in the snow than a BRZ with snow tires.

    • @nikb6528
      @nikb6528 7 років тому +49

      But AWD Impreza with proper winter tires is waaay better than with allseasons.

    • @bwxmoto
      @bwxmoto 7 років тому +6

      Yeah but Soul Charter thinks his BRZ with winter tires is better in snow than my Impreza with all seasons, that's just pure nonsense.

  • @nitinkumar7329
    @nitinkumar7329 3 роки тому +40

    It's never about RWD, FWD, AWD OR 4X4 it's all about the driver and his skills.

    • @mvllvrd4655
      @mvllvrd4655 3 роки тому +12

      And good proper weather tires bro he said it like 10 times

    • @jpete3027666
      @jpete3027666 5 місяців тому

      agree with you but ice is the great equalizer and can make great drivers look foolish

  • @ZDY66666
    @ZDY66666 7 років тому +404

    Lol "Sabaru" aye

    • @motormusique
      @motormusique 7 років тому +65

      He's referring to his Saab 9-2x, nicknamed the Saabaru

    • @Mottspockets
      @Mottspockets 7 років тому +1

      ZDY ayy

    • @itsjive8999
      @itsjive8999 7 років тому +13

      ohh okay. thats makes more sense

    • @alexhoward9031
      @alexhoward9031 7 років тому +1

      I know what the f was that

    • @loganhansen8483
      @loganhansen8483 5 років тому +4

      Basically a Saab and a Subaru had a one night stand and created a turbo charged wild child that no one knows exists

  • @hussali8838
    @hussali8838 7 років тому +77

    I daily drive mine here in Canada it does absolutely amazing. a. Little sketchy on icey road, took it on a trip to the mountains on a snow storm was very scary but the traction system does amazing. Still love mine 60,000miles after

    • @mrjingpk4988
      @mrjingpk4988 7 років тому +18

      All cars wiil be sketch on icy roads, not just RWD. RWD in winter is amazing fun.

    • @luxarxtv
      @luxarxtv 6 років тому

      hello fellow canada person. how many inches of snow do u think is safe for the 86? i am just scared to get stuck...

    • @blackjin21
      @blackjin21 5 років тому

      Do u mean 60km?

    • @alankingchiu
      @alankingchiu 5 років тому

      Drive smart, keep in mind your lower ride height, I have never got stuck in mine.

    • @alexusanin1632
      @alexusanin1632 5 років тому +1

      @@luxarxtv On the road with fresh snow probably doesn't matter. You will plow with winter tires... I plowed thought about 7 inches on the highway, it did perfectly fine... was doing 110 km/h with massive snow dust cloud behind.

  • @davidkeyes206
    @davidkeyes206 3 роки тому +11

    Fully on point. It feels good to hear confirmation and validation of everything I know and have learned driving my 2017 Mustang GT year round in Alberta, Canada. There is no reason to be trepedatious about driving RWD in snow and ice, as long as you have good winter tires. That is the most important thing. Steering with the throttle is FUN!

  • @fatboy19831
    @fatboy19831 7 років тому +273

    DO NOT DRIVE IN SNOW ON THE STOCK TIRES.

    • @tarzaan2603
      @tarzaan2603 5 років тому +18

      My manual fwd Hyundai on wore out Walmart summer tires are fine thanx....with snow chains

    • @Slow.S55
      @Slow.S55 5 років тому

      Mathieu Morin LMAO I can relate

    • @cameronbeyer7687
      @cameronbeyer7687 5 років тому +1

      2019 WRX Dunlop supermax almost sent me into another car when they decided to stop on a hill. Snows would have actually stopped and saved mean heart attack

    • @raytheshadowmonarch
      @raytheshadowmonarch 5 років тому +2

      The stock tires are summer tires which i forgot about n almost died

    • @colormesarge
      @colormesarge 5 років тому +1

      Shit, don't use the stock tires in the summer unless you want to feel like you are on snow.

  • @Dreznin
    @Dreznin 4 роки тому +5

    I've driven a 1990 Miata through blizzards, freezing rain, you name it - my coworkers would be amazed that I could get to the office in any conditions. It's all about knowing how your car will react and driving accordingly.

    • @lanceareadbhar
      @lanceareadbhar 2 роки тому +1

      This is how I've always felt. I'll take a great driver over an average driver with AWD and every current safety feature available.

  • @alexmoore5970
    @alexmoore5970 7 років тому +22

    It still amazes me that the rest of the nation it is snowing... here in Phoenix it was 74*F... (23.3*C)

    • @jeffk464
      @jeffk464 7 років тому +22

      yeah, get back to us when its 115

  • @firesfury2012
    @firesfury2012 7 років тому +11

    I've only had RWD vehicles since I got my license that was oh 6ish years ago now. And I have got to agree it's the tires and drivers attentiveness beyond anything that determines who is and who isn't gonna end up in the ditch

  • @averywalden5204
    @averywalden5204 3 роки тому +8

    Honestly I don't mind driving it in the snow. because of things so balanced it's basically always under control and like this is my first manual ever.
    It's pretty kick ass

  • @Heaton08
    @Heaton08 7 років тому +66

    The spray that comes off the tires is called a "rooster tail". The heavier the vehicle, the more crap it picks up off the road and throws it rearward. Your experience tailing that Jeep is EXACTLY why it needs to be an industry standard to require mud flaps if more than a certain amount of tire is exposed under the body. With 3/4ths tire exposed in inclement weather, trailing cars are basically driving blind.

    • @kingkonginthetrunk
      @kingkonginthetrunk 5 років тому +11

      Stop tail gating then.

    • @ddjohnson9717
      @ddjohnson9717 5 років тому +16

      @@kingkonginthetrunk in the video, is he tailgating? did he got the crap on the windshield? maybe you should say stop modyfing you truck to ridiculous wide tires then.

    • @clemopcl
      @clemopcl 5 років тому +1

      If it is a mix of mud and snow, then you get a cocktail of rooster-tail on your windshield, right?

    • @lukaslrg216
      @lukaslrg216 5 років тому

      u know theres these things called windshield wipers? you should try em they're great. the idea is that they wipe your windshield. crazy

    • @assasine08
      @assasine08 5 років тому +1

      thing is he got sprayed from the side. mud flaps would have done nothing in this scenario. but yes i agree with a certain ridehight there should be a mud guard or flap

  • @SceneGirlSceneQueens
    @SceneGirlSceneQueens 4 роки тому +21

    He makes it sound easier to drive in the snow than on normal roads LOL :) Good video!

  • @noahcoronado5257
    @noahcoronado5257 8 місяців тому +1

    I last year with my best friend fly out to Utah and bought a bagged ls400. On the drive back to Colorado (January) it was completely snow. And I have to say it was the must fun and scary moments of my life as I didn’t want to crash his car. The best part of the trip was when a blizzard hit when we were passing copper. We were 10-20 degrees sliding and holding in while people in there trail built jeeps and wrx’s were sliding off the road.

  • @estoguy
    @estoguy 7 років тому +19

    The winter tire thing... absolutely 100% true. I've been daily driving a BMW 325 E30 for the past four years as my daily, and believe you me, having winter tires makes a huge difference. This car has no assist, RWD (not LSD), no ABS. The only "assist" I give the car is some extra weight in the trunk. I drive up to 60K km a year and the difference is amazing. And don't scimp... if you're getting the car you want, get the right rubber for your prevailing conditions.

  • @markojokanovic349
    @markojokanovic349 10 місяців тому +1

    A huge thank you from the bottom of my heart. Just got an S class, RWD ONLY as a secondary vehicle.
    Living in Canada, I really needed this.
    Best regards from Edmonton, Alberta

  • @siamiam
    @siamiam 7 років тому +35

    up here in Alaska where its winter most of the year my biggest issues with my miatas and other rwd cars ive owned was more visibility then grip and clearance
    in winter stopping is more important then going

    • @riverkelly7747
      @riverkelly7747 6 років тому +1

      siamiam hey I live in Alaska too and Im in highschool and I want to build a daily driver that I can drift.

    • @superguy0012
      @superguy0012 4 роки тому +3

      Put the top down, instant visibility

  • @smithsfan425
    @smithsfan425 7 років тому +75

    This guys voice always reminded me of the leader on Project D.

    • @brother_maleik
      @brother_maleik 3 роки тому +2

      Omg you're right!!

    • @THE-xp3hp
      @THE-xp3hp 3 роки тому +1

      Projectttt D

    • @tuxedo1137
      @tuxedo1137 3 роки тому +5

      Honestly, it's a less exaggerated version of Ryosuke Takahashi

  • @AUDIDOIT
    @AUDIDOIT 7 років тому

    Great little vid Todd. The little FRS is proving to be great all season, weather machine. With the right tyres and capable driving inputs and ability of course. Really enjoying the podcasts too. Keep up the great work.

  • @86Speed
    @86Speed 7 років тому +44

    We shared this on our FB page - hope you did not mind - Great Video

  • @164customsandtutorials4
    @164customsandtutorials4 4 роки тому +2

    Just came to this channel on this video and I am already addicted to this man’s demeanor and voice. Subscribed!

  • @morganlister6762
    @morganlister6762 5 років тому +3

    Canadian winter. 370z 330hp rwd. No posi or limited slip. 6spd manual. The wide stance and 50/50 weight distribution, plus 100lbs of sand and winter tires. The car was a beast in the snow, got through everything.

    • @kristoffer3000
      @kristoffer3000 7 місяців тому

      The sand is actually detrimental to the overall drivability of the car, I'd avoid it because it's just going to make the rear end snap harder

  • @vinman964
    @vinman964 7 років тому +4

    Really great video Todd thank you! Your stream of consciousness when going up and down the hill is very helpful. I think a similar video on canon carving in the spring/summer would also be interesting.

  • @Esp661
    @Esp661 7 років тому

    Fantastic video as always, Todd. Your enthusiasm for the FR-s shows and I love how much you enjoy this car. I chose to buy a Fiesta ST but man... i'll eventually own one of these things

  • @scooteross
    @scooteross 7 років тому +15

    100% accurate. I drive my BRZ in the winter year round and yes its amazing. Its not for everyone though. I could see people getting in a lot of trouble if they are on their cell phones or just plain not watching what your doing. Winter tires are a must for exactly what he says grip when you need it slide when you want to. I have a 2wd truck and I feel safer in my BRZ. Some people look disappointed that Im driving a BRZ in the winter but hey I am always smiling because of how fun it is and its not that expensive so go have fun.
    Tip: I contemplated buying studded tires for the car when I first bought it (I only wanted the best for my baby). Then saw a sick sale on non studded winter tires (Michelin X-Ice 2's) because they were discontinuing them. I have to say there is really no need for studded tires on this car it stops on a dime and goes just a good as a front wheel drive with no studs. Also, you don't have to worry about burning off the studs if your having fun too. ;)

    • @mikeb9569
      @mikeb9569 7 років тому +1

      Also, studded tires have to be harder rubber to hold the studs in, great on ice, but not ideal when you're on dry cold roads. For most of the days of winter, the roads around here have been plowed. Regular stud-less winter tires stay softer when temps drop and have better grip.

    • @fordzzeh7430
      @fordzzeh7430 5 років тому

      best winter tires you can buy IMO
      Sincerely,
      A Canadian

  • @ChrisDrift
    @ChrisDrift 7 років тому +5

    I love sliding my 86 around in the snow, wish it snowed more here. Although last time I did end up in a hedge... but it was fun so worth it.

    • @ShanesAutos
      @ShanesAutos 9 місяців тому

      Yep I seen that 😂

  • @chrisdooley6468
    @chrisdooley6468 7 років тому +3

    Beautiful area you're around. I enjoyed your video. As someone who's driven a 5.0 mustang convertible in the mountains of eastern pa, you covered all the best points of snow driving. RWD doesn't matter-it's proper tires that are the absolute key to success in the snow. Great little vid. I'd like to see more driving in winter vids to enjoy your scenery :)

  • @BryanHoefer
    @BryanHoefer 7 років тому

    Yes Todd you are a child and it's awesome. Your enthusiasm is what makes your videos great, the same goes for Paul.

  • @ZaySean16
    @ZaySean16 7 років тому +12

    THIS IS THE VIDEO IVE BEEN WAITING FOR WOO. Part of the reason I'm getting an FR-S

    • @FACTOTUM_55
      @FACTOTUM_55 7 років тому

      EaZee switched to a WRX from a RWD G37 and a 2010 Camaro RS . live in Toronto with driving technique and good tires you'll get through no problem. just know when to bonsai it tires spinning and when to have the stability on. like the highway

    • @FACTOTUM_55
      @FACTOTUM_55 7 років тому

      EaZee Rwd has more control when sliding because the front tires just need to direct. AWD likes to push the front's. but it'll get through anything much more easily. but Rwd is totally doable

    • @ZaySean16
      @ZaySean16 7 років тому

      Cianski 06 that's awesome man. Yeah I figured it wouldn't be a big deal anyways because it snows like 8-9 times the whole winter anyways, thanks for the input man

    • @FACTOTUM_55
      @FACTOTUM_55 7 років тому +1

      EaZee anytime! enjoy the FRS/gt86 man it's a wicked car. my buddy has one and it's a fantastic drive.

    • @ZaySean16
      @ZaySean16 7 років тому

      Cianski 06 thanks! I've heard mostly good things about it :)

  • @puruchaudhary22
    @puruchaudhary22 7 років тому +3

    the footage/camerawork/production-value/cinematography was really good on this one! not that all the past work was not good, but this is really on the next level. keep up the good work guys. looking forward to all that is to come. thank you very much :)

    • @phattyhales
      @phattyhales 7 років тому +1

      Puru Chaudhary funny because this one was all Todd lol but he was trying out some new gear that we were all looking forward to using. :)

  • @ellwitz9838
    @ellwitz9838 7 років тому +98

    daily my '16 Mustang GT in the snow. all about having winter tires and using your head. is it the best in snowy conditions? no bought it to enjoy on the other 350 days of the year.

    • @DarkSplash99
      @DarkSplash99 4 роки тому +8

      1) Winter tires
      2) Weight in the truck or back seats
      3) Skill
      How to drive a RWD sports car 101

    • @mastersmokepromotions3881
      @mastersmokepromotions3881 3 роки тому +1

      Is it a convertible?

    • @bepishepus3506
      @bepishepus3506 3 роки тому

      But what if there's snow 200 days a year?

    • @coleparz6964
      @coleparz6964 2 роки тому +1

      Now let’s say I live in place with snow like 200 days a year?

    • @Dr.Ticklebum69
      @Dr.Ticklebum69 2 роки тому

      What if I'm somewhere it snows 200 days a year?

  • @scorpio9ification
    @scorpio9ification 5 років тому

    Wish I could upvote this multiple times. Good job explaining it!

  • @mrsquirrel0
    @mrsquirrel0 7 років тому

    I subscribed a long time ago when I was purchasing a car, but its consumer advice videos like this that I remember why I still subscribe.

  • @eatsleepworkcars1786
    @eatsleepworkcars1786 7 років тому

    Great video! I'm filming a snow driving video this weekend in my FR-S as well. I couldn't agree more about the tires - they make ALL the difference. Make sure you have winter tires in the winter and not all seasons!

  • @itzed
    @itzed 7 років тому +5

    All common sense and experience. I had a BRZ with Blizzaks in 2014 and as you mention, the only thing that really stopped me was ground clearance. But, that said, the 86 can't really handle 7" of unplowed snow, so i did learn to respect its limitations.

    • @alexusanin1632
      @alexusanin1632 5 років тому

      I had no problems with 7" of fresh snow, but I also have a lip that serves an important purpouse - it is lower than the rest of the car and doesn't pack the snow under the center of the car.

  • @RexinOridle
    @RexinOridle 7 років тому +3

    Anybody dares to drive a RWD in the snow, deserves a thumbs up.

    • @testtickles8755
      @testtickles8755 5 років тому

      All I've driven for the last 10 years. 2001 Crown Vic

  • @Twisted86
    @Twisted86 4 роки тому +2

    1:15 that's my boy right there, only reason to own a RWD in the winter.

  • @Rico24337
    @Rico24337 5 років тому

    The second the video started before you said where you were located, I thought to myself, "Hey, I think I live near there". Hahaha

  • @illestproductions2589
    @illestproductions2589 3 роки тому +2

    me: *gets sideways*
    gf: what are you doing!??!
    me: sorry I had to check my blindspot

  • @bruno_mcd
    @bruno_mcd 4 роки тому +2

    Great video, great voice, audio is also top notch and entertaining, loving the FRS!

  • @kevin6596
    @kevin6596 7 років тому +2

    This video made me smile.

  • @FatSack0fCrap
    @FatSack0fCrap 2 роки тому

    As someone who has had a Scion FRS for 7 winters i have to say that the only time I had any issues with traction and sliding off the road it was a holy trinity of conditions and bad judgement: 1. Freshly dumped snow was heavily compacted. 2. Roads have not been serviced by crews (no plowing, gravel, or salt). 3. I turned off traction control because I wanted to slide around. Light turned green, hit the gas, spun the tires and lost control, got stuck on the sidewalk and needed a tow. Which honestly, could happen to anyone regardless of the car and drive train. I was just being dumb that night honestly cause other than that, in the winters I drive carefully with weight in the trunk, good winter tires, and I've been fine every season.

  • @patrickburnett9970
    @patrickburnett9970 7 років тому

    Love the 86 vids! Keep them up!

  • @gorviv529
    @gorviv529 7 років тому

    this gives me more confidence about looking into RWD cars as someone who lives in the Northeast with bad winters (as long as I have the right tires and maintain caution). thx.

  • @djalexas1
    @djalexas1 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for helping me feel good about buying the '23 BRZ, and driving it in Canadian winter.

    • @EverydayDriver
      @EverydayDriver  Рік тому +1

      Glad to help. Tires are the most important thing!

  • @flexr5177
    @flexr5177 6 років тому

    Thank you for your simple and easy to understand knowledge of information! Truly

  • @delirium4327
    @delirium4327 7 років тому

    Nice! I love these FRS videos.

  • @gspbirel56
    @gspbirel56 5 років тому +5

    To be completely honest, I felt more in control with my manual FWD than I do in my auto AWD.

  • @dshall442
    @dshall442 7 років тому

    Had a 2004 F150, manual, rear drive only, in Iowa... had it for 7 years, and NEVER GOT STUCK anywhere. Had a lot of fun showing people what it could do, left them with their jaw dropped more often than not.

  • @CashedOutCars
    @CashedOutCars 7 років тому +6

    I just did a similar video on my channel with my FWD Volkswagen. I agree with almost everything in the video, being smooth and controlled makes a huge difference as do tires!

  • @nilleftw
    @nilleftw 5 років тому

    Got a BMW 5 series about a month ago and almost sent it into a sideway drift on a slick, decline on-ramp today. Definitely caught me off guard!

  • @TheRamblinShark
    @TheRamblinShark 6 років тому +2

    Good video. I'll be driving my Camaro SS in the winter with winter wheels/tires installed. First big snowfall I'm going straight to a parking lot to get a feel for it being my first ever RWD car. People think I'm nuts, now I just need to carefully prove them wrong that it is doable :).

  • @HochstartHarry
    @HochstartHarry 5 років тому +1

    Looking where you WANT go is THE crucial step for clean slides!!
    Me and a buddy where doing a tight technical tandem line at this abandoned industrial park and i keept messing up on this 270° roundabout part because i keept looking at the grass on the inside and the huge curb just before it. Then i took the lead and looked further outwards (away from the apex) and i managed no problem. I slightly adapted the throttle input for the new line and it worked perfectly.

  • @commentmancommentman1658
    @commentmancommentman1658 7 років тому +44

    i live in alberta canada and people daily this shit!! i've seen mustangs,brz/frs, 370z, chrysler 300 in the snow all the time!! you just really need dedicated winter tires and drive smart not dumb.

    • @FerpiliciousProducts
      @FerpiliciousProducts 7 років тому +1

      comment man comment man whereabouts in Alberta are you located? I'm in Edmonton and I see these cars daily driven as well, but I also see them stuck on the residential streets after a good snowfall.

    •  7 років тому +4

      FerpiliciousProducts whatever the driving wheels, cars can get stuck. Again it is about the way you drive, the places you venture and how smart you drive.
      Have a nice day. :)

    • @commentmancommentman1658
      @commentmancommentman1658 7 років тому +1

      FerpiliciousProducts live in edmonton too!! my neighbor has a brz and literally drives it every day, i've seen alot of mustang too lately at winter. It all depends on tires man, and obviously how much inches the snow is specialy unplowed.

    • @commentmancommentman1658
      @commentmancommentman1658 7 років тому

      FerpiliciousProducts btw sick evo4 bro, pretty sure i've seen that b4.

    • @FerpiliciousProducts
      @FerpiliciousProducts 7 років тому +1

      Jean-René Boutin do you live in a place where cars get stuck being parked overnight? AWD and ground clearance with winter tires will get you out 90% of the time. I have had to tow my neighbours BRZ off our street many times, and he has Blizzaks. My Evo, the truck, our BMW, never get stuck on our street from a heavy snowfall.

  • @RacecarDriver-sn9wt
    @RacecarDriver-sn9wt 7 років тому

    thumbs up prior to viewing cause this channel is awesome ;)

  • @Lloyd991P
    @Lloyd991P 10 місяців тому

    I just bought myself a 3.8 Genesis Coupe that I will be using for the winter as well so this video helps a lot!

  • @MuffinRacing
    @MuffinRacing 5 років тому

    I had a very similar experience with my Genesis Coupe Turbo in the snow. With snow tires, traction wasn't the problem at all. It was running out of ground clearance when the snow became too deep.

  • @MrSlowestD16
    @MrSlowestD16 7 років тому +8

    Yeah, having grown up in NY (a lot of snow, but def. not as much as Utah, but it still gets buried under many feet in upstate NY) I agree with everything you're saying 100%. The largest problem in snow is usually people with improper tires. They lave the piece of shit all-seasons the stealership puts on which are utter trash in the snow. If you're driving in the snow, regardless of how many (and which) wheels are spinning, you need proper deep lug snow tires. They make a world of difference. Night & day.

  • @DecafBacon
    @DecafBacon 7 років тому

    Love these FRS videos keep them coming! Very relevant as someone in the Great White North considering one of these.

    • @KenDebono
      @KenDebono 2 роки тому

      I have the 2013 FRS (hot lava - just like in the vid), put snow tires on it and drove it in Toronto as my daily commute. Acceleration on snowy roads was tough but just go slow. Hard to get momentum when your light turns green when going uphill, again, in snow. The worst part is making your way through drifts and snow banks created by plows because the front end is so low. You end up risking your front end spoiler (air dam) if you 'gun' it through.

  • @rayrayrun
    @rayrayrun 7 років тому

    I have been driving my frs for 4 years now on stock tires here in cincinnati ohio, no problems with snow at all. Like Todd said when driving in the snow its all about easy and smooth driving.

  • @ViktorNig
    @ViktorNig 4 роки тому +3

    I actually daily drove me frs on stock tires and got through like a month 😂😂 the truck was my backup

  • @TwoPunchMan492
    @TwoPunchMan492 7 років тому +1

    I love my FWD car, i have gone through the whole winter up and down hills, snowy and icy. Only all season tires. Not even good ones. And they dont have even tread all around. No problems that i deal with :)

  • @smcombs100
    @smcombs100 7 років тому

    I daily a Crown vic in Michigan winters and I do just fine. Tires do make the difference, but also understanding how your car will respond is the most important thing.

  • @Frank71
    @Frank71 6 років тому

    As a kid I remember my dad taking on Colorado Loveland pass, Vail pass in a 1980s toyota corolla rwd. Never a problem, even in a whiteout blizzard.
    Inevitably, a jeep Cherokee would blow our doors off....10 miles up the road, it was on the ditch....

  • @Tarrzan
    @Tarrzan Рік тому

    Watching this gives me much more confidence in driving in the snow. Lived in California all my life, recently just moved to Minnesota at the start of winter, or should I say snowfall. I have a RWD Lexus GS350 f sport and currently running on all season tires. But I think with steady handling with enough gas power, i should be fine. The drive is all about the driver’s driving abilities 🤙🏼

    • @EverydayDriver
      @EverydayDriver  Рік тому +1

      If your area gets much snow, then full winter tires will help you much more than all seasons. Glad this was helpful to you!

  • @slaWterCH
    @slaWterCH 7 років тому +6

    I agree, clearance is the key factor. Otherwise it's fine.

  • @drd6539
    @drd6539 2 роки тому

    Good video. I have a RWD turbo Cadillac ATS with snow tires...it still slides all over the place if I even look at the throttle. But like you demonstrate, it's insta-fun when you want. I guess that's why we bought our cars in the first place.

  • @StonyRC
    @StonyRC 7 років тому

    Excellent and real-world advice. Oh, and we are ALL children when it comes to snow, an empty parking lot and a car to play with!

  • @joshcaine2938
    @joshcaine2938 4 роки тому

    I havent tried my brz in snow yet so the most fun ive actually had so far was with a mr2. Slides perfect on throttle and corrects when lifting off. Even had my mate on skiis behind on tow rope. Even managed so steep icy hills. Was so much fun

  • @Stripesheal18
    @Stripesheal18 6 років тому

    Thank you for sharing your advice. it made my day

  • @francesco1998
    @francesco1998 4 роки тому +1

    Lot of people don’t understand but... my father didn’t have a 4WD drive vehicle until he bought his own at 24 years old, back when everyone drove RWD V8 sedans is when he learned to drive. He grew up in Niagara Falls New York and drove almost exclusively RWD Manual until he bought a Ford Bronco, and he said he almost never flipped the 4WD on anyway.
    What I’m saying is “you need an SUV and 4x4” is a myth just like all of the others that people are saying about cars. “You need start/stop” “you need auto collision braking” “manuals suck”

  • @kyrotonia
    @kyrotonia 6 років тому +1

    My 2013 Hot Lava FR-S is going to be going through it's first winter this year... I'm a scared, inexperienced driver with a sports car, but you guys really did give me a little peace of mind. I did get some winter tires a week ago, and they look like they'll help. It was a dumb choice of first car for the upper corner of Indiana, but hey, it's doable.

    • @EverydayDriver
      @EverydayDriver  6 років тому +2

      With winter tires we expect you'll be fine and enjoy the FR-S in the snow as much as Todd did. Leave more room to stop and don't make sudden moves. We've all been told it's impossible, but RWD in the snow is very doable. Thanks for watching and enjoy!

    • @kyrotonia
      @kyrotonia 6 років тому

      That's pretty much what my mother said. lol. Thanks for the reply, and keep up the good and interesting work.

    • @mikaelafox6106
      @mikaelafox6106 6 років тому +1

      EverydayDriver It’s my first winter with my first ever RWD but I’ve been too chicken to drive in the snow. I let it sit when there’s too much snow out, but your videos have really helped to start to give me confidence. I’m about to give it a go! Any tips for driving up a sleet or ice covered road that’s on a steep hill? I have 4 blizzak ws80s on my ‘15 ecoboost and the car has a snow/wet mode. Should I be ok for such a hill?

    • @EverydayDriver
      @EverydayDriver  6 років тому +2

      A steep hill covered in a sheet of Ice will be difficult for any car, even AWD. But, short of that most extreme condition, you should be fine everywhere you need to go. Getting going on hills takes some finesse, but with those tires you should have better traction than most people. Take it slow and leave yourself time to respond to the car. Overall, we expect it will be easier than you think. Thanks for watching!

  • @sonicpentatonic
    @sonicpentatonic 7 років тому +2

    This video makes me miss my old e30 in the Minnesota winters now that I'm on the snow-free coast :/

    • @kingjaf
      @kingjaf 7 років тому

      Agreed, I had a tuned eta e30 with a shorter final drive w/lsd and Blizzaks that could drive sideways all day and be brought back under control with the lightest of wrist flicks. 180s from parking spots were also as easy as turn to lock an mash throttle. On more than one occasion I went up steep grades that left many all-season equipped cars (even awd!) on the shoulder.

  • @TheTeku45
    @TheTeku45 7 років тому

    cant wait until i get mine!

  • @chrisitanlacanilao9371
    @chrisitanlacanilao9371 Рік тому

    experience is so much in this video. nice control

  • @payasofeo69
    @payasofeo69 2 роки тому

    Watching this again 4 years later because I’m considering getting the new GR86...
    November to March we get about 80” of snow on average.
    Got another 6 months to think about it!

  • @justinsamuels5516
    @justinsamuels5516 2 роки тому

    Very knowledgeable and professional video, well-presented!

  • @stubbk3
    @stubbk3 5 років тому

    Feeling better about using my e46 thru winter now as I just sold my old trusty daily so it's rear wheel only now , cool video

  • @BESIMXCARS
    @BESIMXCARS 7 років тому +2

    This winter has been crazy in Utah! I've been driving my Z in it though, the matter of actually having clearance is no joke. Hey if you do see this, you should join the Utah SCCA for some events some time!

    • @dekhunter148
      @dekhunter148 4 роки тому

      Just finally saw this video, I'm going to be going to Utah next October for a few months with my coilovers z32 vert and want to know how bad is the snow in inches because the last time I was in Utah there was still snow on snowbird on the 4th of july

  • @WarzechaSoftWorks
    @WarzechaSoftWorks 7 років тому +1

    Actually I was surprised how good my GT86 drives in winter conditions. May be it's because of the Torsen LSD. The care is very stable and has a lot of grip. I'm very happy with the GoodYear Ultra Grip 9 winter tires. I chose the 205x16 instead of the 215x17 because the 205x16 are more common and cheaper.

  • @raiden000
    @raiden000 7 років тому +1

    i drove a civic si through 11 new jersey winters, never got snow tires, never got stuck. now im planning on getting a camaro ss. its a hunch but im thinking all seasons arent gonna work so well on the camaro. ill definitely get winter tires for it. ty for the inspiration.

  • @Fir3Chi3f
    @Fir3Chi3f 6 років тому

    YES. More than traction, clearance is the issue. I've had very little problem with this car in the snow,with snow tires, other than really deep snow. I've not gotten stuck yet, but I've also had lots of practice with snow driving.

  • @willywillywillywillywilly
    @willywillywillywillywilly 7 років тому +17

    So Todd, when you engine brake in a RWD car, you're only braking the rear wheels. It has the same impact as pulling the handbrake slightly. This does allow you to manage your speed without using the brake, but it's not the safe way to do it in low traction situations. You'll hit your traction limit much sooner than with slight brake pedal pressure. Also, as you pointed out on the podcast, it doesn't warn drivers behind you of your deceleration because there are no brake lights.

    • @TheMxboy199
      @TheMxboy199 7 років тому

      Willy Lamb dude engine brake doesn't use the hand brake it's literally downshifting and letting the car rev higher thus giving the wheels more resistance to spin faster

    • @willywillywillywillywilly
      @willywillywillywillywilly 7 років тому +11

      Austin Lintelman It's LIKE pulling the handbrake because engine braking in a rwd car only "brakes" the rear wheels.

    • @silvenshadow
      @silvenshadow 7 років тому +2

      The advantage of engine braking is you can control your tire speed, from slight braking to balance and slight acceleration without the weightshift of using the brake pedal. He's talking about using it as a control technique not as a braking technique.

    • @DarkIzo
      @DarkIzo 7 років тому +1

      Willy Willy

    • @TheBigDanois
      @TheBigDanois 6 років тому +2

      Ohh Please Willy ! *Reasonable* downshifts don't lock up rear wheels. I do realize drift racing drivers use this technique. Key word here... *reasonable* Also if someone is driving on your ass in holy shit weather heel and toe.

  • @McDzy
    @McDzy 2 роки тому

    what a quality video! wow

  • @MrM4rvelous
    @MrM4rvelous 5 років тому +4

    my rear wheel drive charger has fun in the snow

  • @michaelw2263
    @michaelw2263 7 років тому +1

    I'd love to see you guys review RallySport Direct's FRS since they are in Utah as well

  • @LukeMasouras
    @LukeMasouras 6 років тому

    I have my BRZ out 12 months a year and live in Syracuse, NY (123.8 inches of average snowfall a year). This is winter number three and just got a new 2017. I even have more fun with it in the winter!

  • @Ryukachoo
    @Ryukachoo 7 років тому +2

    i do exactly the same thing with my NB miata with blizzaks snow tires on it
    i've driven through like three snow storms already, and while it does lose some traction in first, if i just let off the throttle is bites in an acts like nothing happened.
    i can lose traction whenever i want in a totally controlled way. it's EXTREMELY fun and i will often intentionally drive during snow storms because of it now

    • @22letis22
      @22letis22 5 років тому

      I just got my winter tires and I'm looking forward to my first winter with RWD (an NB Miata). :)

  •  7 років тому +21

    Hi Todd and Paul,
    AWD gives a false sense of security : AMEN and so does ride height and weight.
    Salutations,
    JRB
    P.S.: I live in Canada. ;~}

    • @alexusanin1632
      @alexusanin1632 5 років тому

      Agreed. Weight and ride height get truck drivers feeling like "gods" when it's snowing. I drive an Evo X with winter tires and that thing is superior in most ways at acceleration, turning and stopping in snow... plowing is good too.

    • @alexsurber9404
      @alexsurber9404 4 роки тому

      Actually weight helps in a situation where you're trying to form traction, seeing as traction can be derived from F = C * N in a rudimentary manner. F is your overall friction, C is the coefficient your tires provide you, and N is the vertical force being applied to said tires (weight). The only thing weight can really help with is creating more surface area for soft tires to attempt to mate with, and ideally those tires will be squished front to back and not side to side so the rest of the surface can form traction on the compacted snow.

  • @mikeb9569
    @mikeb9569 7 років тому

    MX5 with winter tires- very similar. What a hoot!

  • @Qdogg1985
    @Qdogg1985 7 років тому

    I used to daily my Monte Carlo ss year round in Massachusetts. With studded snows on the back that thing amazing in the snow. Never got stuck and I used to drive around in blizzards for fun.

  • @fwijffels
    @fwijffels 6 років тому

    The locking diff in the FRS also helps with traction, but other than that I agree that these snow tyres are more important for slowing down the car.

  • @clairebannister4749
    @clairebannister4749 7 років тому

    Agreed - a 2 wheel drive car on Winter Tyres will outperform a 4WD car on summer tyres by almost 100%. Most fun I have had?- 99 Impreza on winter Tyres! A 40 mile country journey took only 10 mins longer than in the summer on snow covered roads in Wales.

  • @jarrettmaltry6305
    @jarrettmaltry6305 5 років тому

    Studded snow tires all the way baby. My FWD 02 accent hasn’t slid once in 5 years since I’ve gotten those puppies

  • @RyanDeClue
    @RyanDeClue 7 років тому

    Just purchased a 1991 300ZX twin turbo. 96400 original miles. Tuned for E85, 450 or so hp to the wheels. Do you have any advice for longevity and care for the car and the VG30DETT??

  • @cleric3236
    @cleric3236 7 років тому +10

    You guys are doing a very good job, but you should make much more videos. You deserve more like 1 million subs.

  • @ericdanthon2
    @ericdanthon2 4 роки тому

    I have learned so much about tires from this video and I love rear well drive car but have been afraid to drive them in the winter snow. (two days of the year). In most placês we can not justify buying two sets of tires. I have all season tires on my BMW Z3. I think the reason that I have slipped before was when my tires were not that good in the first placê!!!