NEVER tune or intonate a guitar on it's back, always tune and intonate in playing position because gravity/physics is a thing (even if you might not believe in it).
Off subject of the Tone Vice. I love that Peavey Ultra 60 Head you have there. Awesome amp! Although I rushed right out and bought the Peavey 5150 as soon as they came out and I loved it, my favorite Peavey rock amp I ever had way back in the day (early 80’s) was the Peavey VTM 120 that I had. It used to be called “The Mississippi Marshall”. I liked it better than any of the Marshalls my buddy and bandmate had. Great sounding straight up rock amp and used a Boss SD-1 when I wanted to boost it. The Ultra series were killer as well.
No they don't say that. I have the EVH D-TUNA. It installed in 5 minutes, and works fine. I use the fine tuners all the time, and even the headstock tuners when necessary, on all 6 strings.
Yes to tune your guitar to d and then you lock it down. That's where the little adjustment screw comes into play. With the d-tuna all the way forward, this is when you use the little allen wrench to tunity e standard. Here's the part where everybody does in a little bit different some people don't mess around with that little allen wrench which is fine because most trems have a little bit of room where you can get two or three turns on your fine tuner.
Had one and it worked great broke a string changed it now flipping it back and forth doesn’t change the tone at all what am I doing wrong there is like no close up installation video of putting the screw in correctly anywhere online
Was looking for a video like this and I know this is a 3 year old video but maybe someone will answer this regardless.... If you can't fine tune when drop is engaged, why not disengage it, fine tune it then re-engage? Maybe someoen can explain it.
Had one and it worked great broke a string changed it now flipping it back and forth doesn’t change the tone at all what am I doing wrong there is like no close up installation video of putting the screw in correctly anywhere online
Had one and it worked great broke a string changed it now flipping it back and forth doesn’t change the tone at all what am I doing wrong there is like no close up installation video of putting the screw in correctly anywhere online
The one I have would not work with the Ibanez low profile vibrato that is standard on the Jem 555. You would have to contact Tone Vise to see if they have a product that would work with your vibrato.
@@GregTalksGuitars but if u can fine tune it in stardard and not when dropped, why cant you just put it in standard, fine tune it and then drop it again? It takes less than a sec to drop it to D and its not like u gonna be fine tuning in the middle of playing 🤷🏻♂️
It does work. If you have the Tone Vise quick unlock locking nut screws you could unlock that quick and fine tune, but the bridge fine tuner doesn't work in drop d. The upside is it does gives you drop d in a recessed mounted Floyd Rose without routing for an EVH D-Tuna.
I have one of these and really loved at first. It was great since I didn’t have to route the body like a d tuna. After a few weeks it just completely stopped working. Touching the string at all would make the string out of tune. No clue what happened. Tried multiple things and could never fix it. Sad because I really liked it Went with a d tuna and yeah I had to route a little space out but, the thing has never failed me. Sad the pitch shifter doesn’t work.
@@edgyswordsmanmusic6769 you can’t float with a d tuna unless you have a tremolo stabilizer. Also never had any issues with d tuna after setup. Been using them for ever a year and love them
I use a Tremmory and a Mag-Lok on another guitar to keep everything in tune when I drop to D. The bridge stays completely still but the string tension being relieved still causes minute tuning issues with the other strings like G because the neck is being relieved. The whole idea of a D tuner is great in theory but unless if you have a aluminum neck or something that doesn't move at all then this isn't going to really work without you having to fine tune the other strings.
I just got it yest, so far it’s a nightmare to install, after I finally did, it doesn’t keep tune, honestly, I believe I threw my $$ out the window with this gadget
I've had this device on one of my guitars for two days now. The E string does not stay in tune at all and indeed you cannot use your fine tuner in E/Eb. So I can see why they recommend those keyless nut locks. But then you might as well turn your fine tuner down if you're tuning in E and up if you want to tune to D. That is easier and it also works fine. I also take the pitch shifter off again. Waste of money.
Had the same issue. Owner swore up and down that the fine tuner would work. I even had him send me a longer screw to give more clearance. I kept mine on as I rarely have to fine tune the low E. Still pretty disappointing though
Yeah this thing is good in theory but it failed me as well. It puts too much tension on the tension spring which fatigues it and then after a few weeks if it's not a real Floyd most likely that piece is going to break and not go back into shape.
@@cmdrdredd yeah the evh is definitely a better product a more stable. There's all kinds of different stabilizers on the market. Considering this thing is a piece of junk I wouldn't recommend any of his stabilizers either.
My experiences with the d tuna have been positive. Works well if you tune the low string properly.
NEVER tune or intonate a guitar on it's back, always tune and intonate in playing position because gravity/physics is a thing (even if you might not believe in it).
Installed mine today. Had the exact same issues getting it in the right position. Took me about an hour to get it right !!! But now it works
Off subject of the Tone Vice. I love that Peavey Ultra 60 Head you have there. Awesome amp! Although I rushed right out and bought the Peavey 5150 as soon as they came out and I loved it, my favorite Peavey rock amp I ever had way back in the day (early 80’s) was the Peavey VTM 120 that I had. It used to be called “The Mississippi Marshall”. I liked it better than any of the Marshalls my buddy and bandmate had. Great sounding straight up rock amp and used a Boss SD-1 when I wanted to boost it. The Ultra series were killer as well.
My friend had a VTM that he loved.
No you tune it in playing position 😭
TBH though, the EVH say you should use your tuning keys only for the 6th string on their d-tuna.
No they don't say that. I have the EVH D-TUNA. It installed in 5 minutes, and works fine. I use the fine tuners all the time, and even the headstock tuners when necessary, on all 6 strings.
Yes to tune your guitar to d and then you lock it down.
That's where the little adjustment screw comes into play. With the d-tuna all the way forward, this is when you use the little allen wrench to tunity e standard.
Here's the part where everybody does in a little bit different some people don't mess around with that little allen wrench which is fine because most trems have a little bit of room where you can get two or three turns on your fine tuner.
If you use it properly it works fine.
So probably why they make keyless locking nut now..🤔 have you tried that 'keyless locking nut'?
I ordered three of them. I'm sending them all back. They should have warned about that.
Had one and it worked great broke a string changed it now flipping it back and forth doesn’t change the tone at all what am I doing wrong there is like no close up installation video of putting the screw in correctly anywhere online
Sounds like you broke that tension spring you need to check that.
I have string buzz with this. What could be wrong? I have a trem stabilizer installed in my guitar as well
Is it string buzz, or is the tone vise pitch shifter vibrating?
@@austinfailz your 8 months late haha turns out it was a raised fret 😂
@@bread6085 that'll do it. I mentioned the tone vise as it may have been vibrating on the string clamp screw.
Hi. Awesome vid! Can you instal it on the A string too or it can be installed only on the bottom string?
I'm not sure. I haven't tried it on any other string. If you think try it let me know if it works. I will try it too.
Can you fine tune with the EVH version?
Yes you can. In standard or drop D.
Great video , I have a question : what the sizes (mm) of the piece ?
Was looking for a video like this and I know this is a 3 year old video but maybe someone will answer this regardless.... If you can't fine tune when drop is engaged, why not disengage it, fine tune it then re-engage? Maybe someoen can explain it.
OMG, many amps there, why didnt use it broooo ???
Batman rocks
Had one and it worked great broke a string changed it now flipping it back and forth doesn’t change the tone at all what am I doing wrong there is like no close up installation video of putting the screw in correctly anywhere online
Had one and it worked great broke a string changed it now flipping it back and forth doesn’t change the tone at all what am I doing wrong there is like no close up installation video of putting the screw in correctly anywhere online
I think it's a genius invention, so simple. It seems people don't understand how it's supposed to work.
The point is you cannot tune when in E it’s just a fact
@@taylorparker8912 Yes, I realise this. There are ways around that.
hello I would like to know if the tone vise can adapt to the vibrato Ibanez jem 555 please
The one I have would not work with the Ibanez low profile vibrato that is standard on the Jem 555. You would have to contact Tone Vise to see if they have a product that would work with your vibrato.
Thanks for that. I feel the same as you.
Could you use the fine tuner when it’s drop d?
No. The fine tuner only works in standard tuning.
@@GregTalksGuitars but if u can fine tune it in stardard and not when dropped, why cant you just put it in standard, fine tune it and then drop it again? It takes less than a sec to drop it to D and its not like u gonna be fine tuning in the middle of playing 🤷🏻♂️
Is it still worth it?
It does work. If you have the Tone Vise quick unlock locking nut screws you could unlock that quick and fine tune, but the bridge fine tuner doesn't work in drop d. The upside is it does gives you drop d in a recessed mounted Floyd Rose without routing for an EVH D-Tuna.
can we use for intonation key?
No, it only works for drop tuning.
This or the d’tuna?
I like the D-Tuna better, but if your trem is recessed you have to route a slot for it to go in.
I have one of these and really loved at first. It was great since I didn’t have to route the body like a d tuna. After a few weeks it just completely stopped working. Touching the string at all would make the string out of tune. No clue what happened. Tried multiple things and could never fix it. Sad because I really liked it
Went with a d tuna and yeah I had to route a little space out but, the thing has never failed me. Sad the pitch shifter doesn’t work.
So if you rout a little out, the D-Tuna is rock solid while still being able to float?
@@edgyswordsmanmusic6769 you can’t float with a d tuna unless you have a tremolo stabilizer. Also never had any issues with d tuna after setup. Been using them for ever a year and love them
I use a Tremmory and a Mag-Lok on another guitar to keep everything in tune when I drop to D. The bridge stays completely still but the string tension being relieved still causes minute tuning issues with the other strings like G because the neck is being relieved. The whole idea of a D tuner is great in theory but unless if you have a aluminum neck or something that doesn't move at all then this isn't going to really work without you having to fine tune the other strings.
You got a block the trem so the trem doesn't move.
I just got it yest, so far it’s a nightmare to install, after I finally did, it doesn’t keep tune, honestly, I believe I threw my $$ out the window with this gadget
Did you install a stabilizer also?
@@kevinerickson84 I had it reworked again, working fine now, I blocked the trem with wood so it doesn’t pull back
I've had this device on one of my guitars for two days now. The E string does not stay in tune at all and indeed you cannot use your fine tuner in E/Eb. So I can see why they recommend those keyless nut locks. But then you might as well turn your fine tuner down if you're tuning in E and up if you want to tune to D. That is easier and it also works fine. I also take the pitch shifter off again. Waste of money.
Had the same issue. Owner swore up and down that the fine tuner would work. I even had him send me a longer screw to give more clearance.
I kept mine on as I rarely have to fine tune the low E. Still pretty disappointing though
My exact problem with the EVH version. Just block the trem and buy one of those trem arms that have a wrench on it.
Yeah this thing is good in theory but it failed me as well. It puts too much tension on the tension spring which fatigues it and then after a few weeks if it's not a real Floyd most likely that piece is going to break and not go back into shape.
They tell you to also use their trem stabilizer. This alone isn’t enough for long term.
@@cmdrdredd yeah the evh is definitely a better product a more stable.
There's all kinds of different stabilizers on the market. Considering this thing is a piece of junk I wouldn't recommend any of his stabilizers either.