Joint British / French project. Land based trials took place at RAE Bedford. For more info about Farnborough Air Sciences Trust (FAST) visit: airsciences.org.uk/
Though the underpowered nature of it could have been improved. With modifications, it could have been quite successful. Ultimately though, as others have pointed out, Dassault used its influence to kill the project. The irony is that a more powerful Jaguar M with radar could have allowed the Marine Nationale to retire their Crusaders decades earlier. Though the Crusader was a good fighter, it would have allowed the MN to focus their entire air wing on just Jaguar Ms (plus the usual Alizés and helicopters).
@@edsutherland8266 Thanks Ed for the reply. It seems to be a 'thing' by the RAF to get rid of designs early on rather than cash the benefits of lessons learned, often leaving silly gaps in capacity: The Sea Harrier being the obvious example (a gap still not filled by the F35). A re-engined, fly-by-wire Jaguar w would have been an excellent development.
An Anglo French aeroplane. But competed against Dassault export models so never that popular with the French even though it was an excellent aeroplane.
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Is this true? They used the same engine: Turbomecor adour French had Mk 101 as they entered service first but the RAF planes had the upgrades Mk 102, 104 and 106.
@@Sleepysod To be honest, it is only hearsay from aircrew I am going on. In Germany, the Jag was always being joked about for its lack of thrust. The French fixed the problem with the afterburners, vital for the carrier kites. We used extending nose gear and emergency afterburners on our FG1, F4 Phantoms on the Ark Royal.
'proper CAATOBAR carriers'? Why 'proper'? The UK F-35Bs go off the QE carriers with 22,000Ib of weapons, the 'C' variant goes of a CATOBAR with 18,000Ibs. STOVL carriers can launch in far worse weather conditions than CATOBAR. As we proved in 1982. Even without SRVL retrievals a QE can launch aircraft at 30 second intervals. As they proved during CSG21. ANd initial sorties are faster than CATOBAR. 'proper carriers' launch aircraft. Nothing to do with catapults.
If the UK operated CATOBARs still, they'd still be flying F-35s. Only the C model, not the B model. The Rafale is a very capable aircraft (and could probably beat the 35 in a knife fight), but it loses out in stealth, sensor fusion, and electronic capabilities.
Hi. I must admit probably my most favourite jet fighter. Sleek yet tough. Good looking too.
It just looked so very smart in those colours.
Well, I never knew they'd got a carrier version going!
Yup, but it never went into production, as it was unltimately found underpowered for actual carrier use.
Dassault had a hand in killing the Jaguar M, in favour of the Super Entenard.
Though the underpowered nature of it could have been improved. With modifications, it could have been quite successful. Ultimately though, as others have pointed out, Dassault used its influence to kill the project. The irony is that a more powerful Jaguar M with radar could have allowed the Marine Nationale to retire their Crusaders decades earlier. Though the Crusader was a good fighter, it would have allowed the MN to focus their entire air wing on just Jaguar Ms (plus the usual Alizés and helicopters).
@@edsutherland8266 Thanks Ed for the reply. It seems to be a 'thing' by the RAF to get rid of designs early on rather than cash the benefits of lessons learned, often leaving silly gaps in capacity: The Sea Harrier being the obvious example (a gap still not filled by the F35). A re-engined, fly-by-wire Jaguar w
would have been an excellent development.
@@shawnc5188 Politics again, I suppose.
Sadly never ordered into production as the FN preferred the all French, Super Etendard.
Politics kill industry. This goes to both sides of the participant Countries.
@@christopherneufelt8971 - Agreed!
@@jehuty1a - French Navy (Marine nationale).
Non c'est un problème franco-français c'est la société Breguet qui a travaillé sur le jaguar il était en concurrence avec la société Dassault😊😊
wonderful film , just imagine it though great aircraft anyway shame these beauties are lovely and missed
See this would have been a neat premium for france rank 7 instead of the F1C, i like my naval aircraft man
An Anglo French aeroplane. But competed against Dassault export models so never that popular with the French even though it was an excellent aeroplane.
The french sacked the project on purpose so that it could push its own models to its client nations....
@patelrohan5083 yes. That is true.
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Very cool 👍👍
stunning.
Still got the looks. Nice.
The French versions had uprated engines from the start, compared to the RAF kites.
Is this true? They used the same engine: Turbomecor adour French had Mk 101 as they entered service first but the RAF planes had the upgrades Mk 102, 104 and 106.
@@Sleepysod To be honest, it is only hearsay from aircrew I am going on. In Germany, the Jag was always being joked about for its lack of thrust. The French fixed the problem with the afterburners, vital for the carrier kites.
We used extending nose gear and emergency afterburners on our FG1, F4 Phantoms on the Ark Royal.
I didn't know the UK did some of the trials work for Jaguar (N). I thought it was a wholly French venture.
So easy to take off and winter 🙂💪👍
Lovely bird, indeed, in all it's versions! May be could be actual to this time.
Underpowered?
I’ll have a goo
In truth, if we had proper Catobar carriers we would be buying French Dassault Rafale jets today!
'proper CAATOBAR carriers'?
Why 'proper'?
The UK F-35Bs go off the QE carriers with 22,000Ib of weapons, the 'C' variant goes of a CATOBAR with 18,000Ibs.
STOVL carriers can launch in far worse weather conditions than CATOBAR. As we proved in 1982.
Even without SRVL retrievals a QE can launch aircraft at 30 second intervals. As they proved during CSG21. ANd initial sorties are faster than CATOBAR.
'proper carriers' launch aircraft. Nothing to do with catapults.
If the UK operated CATOBARs still, they'd still be flying F-35s. Only the C model, not the B model. The Rafale is a very capable aircraft (and could probably beat the 35 in a knife fight), but it loses out in stealth, sensor fusion, and electronic capabilities.
C'est la société française Bréguet concurrent de Dassault le jaguar a été fait par la société Breguet😊😊