We as audience are stupid that we are expecting morality and searching for perfect rolemodels in them when they themselves havent promised any such thing. This is halo effect and group think at play. Why are expecting to learn about relationships from aperson who is just supposed to act and entertain us. In the end we audience are at fault because we are not objective and rational enough. We are trying to view their lifestyle from our moral code when we dont have any data/idea about their actual life is like. As Tigmanshuji said," Jab tak sanima hai, log ____ bante rahenge"
But showing it in public , opinion will come everybody doesn't have same opinion. And you are wrong they came sometimes as moral role modal telling people what is right and wrong on other things. And expressing people are wrong about something .
@@rajattyagi8963 honestly I don't understand what the fuss is all about. To me it doesn't seem scandalous from whatever info is presented to us. Log til ka taad bana rahe hai. People are projecting themselves in place of Ranveer and feeling victimised when in reality there might not be any such thing.
I agree they are not perfect, they are also flawed humans... so this also means that celebrities are in no position to lecture the public about anything as they know nothing about the real world.... That's the hypocrisy people are talking about...
True, people shouldn't make relationship standard according to celebrities, bro they live PR curated, narcissistic and self interest life and working in industry like this. Get entertained by them watch there movies and not to go beyond this in there life, focus on ur mate.
Yes, imagine if Kangana was not insulted on the Karan Johar show (1st appearance), then in her 2nd appearance, should wouldn't have talked about Napotsim, and Kangana still would be working big moviez
If these actors aren't smart enough to answer these questions tactfully its nt Karen's fault atall..karan himself hs been bombarded with a lot of rapid fires of his own on multiple occasions nd he hs aced them with his witty humour nd sharp brain, that's y education nd a working brain is important, ppl like deepika r jst too dumb nd rely only on their p.r team to do everything 4 them, bt its hard faking a politically correct nd smart personality all the time when in reality u r quite the opposite person hence,u get exposed when u meet real nd smarter ppl like karan.
Points : 1. No there's nothing like people actually glorify sexism with terms to unfaithfulness , ranbir got that same hate for his past and so did she 2. The line “you should never peek behind the curtains for your so called stars” is gold and actually people should just judge them on there movie performances 3. Koffee with karan shouldn't exist only because its less about what's in the future and more about what was in the past 4. I'm on a comode while writing this so pardon 5. Jammy this face cam thing works !! Do it more often !!
All shows are abt the past , hw would u knw what is in the future of any actors personal lifes?? Whether they would b getting divorce in future or nt?? Ppl want to knw abt these actor's personal lives nd to do so u ask abt their past
"Every disagreement cannot be rooted in misogyny simply because it is expressed by woman and criticized by a man", major props Anmol, I've never heard it said better.
Maybe Deepika is a toxic red flag, but as long as Ranveer accepts her past and was well aware of the fact that they were in a casual relationship and they both have moved on as a pair, our opinions won't really matter.🤷♂
If our opinion don't matter so why they shooting this conversation and streaming it on a national platform which is for people to see and to have a opinion about that
I feel bad for karan tbh. He asked a simple question and she chose to give that answer so I am unsure why some people are bashing him. He was not even being pushy to get a controversial answer. It was nice to see he took the feedback he got last season and had a balance of simple mature questions and also fun stuff. People shouldn't call him call him the gossip aunty in this case cause of the way deepika chose to answer a very straight forward question.
Isn't he the producer of the show? He could have decided not to air that specific part. He still would have got quite a many views. I'm pretty sure he's not aired a lot of verbal vomit in the past too. Karan always wanted to be Simi from her rendezvous show. But he now seems like Rishi Kapoor's character Dean Vashisht from SOTY who makes people compete for his own entertainment...
I watched the ep with deepika and Ranveer and I didn’t think anything toxic or immoral was said. They were not married at that point. Also, let’s allow Ranveer to have a serious demeanor. We can’t always expect him to act like a Rocky in real life.
You are in a relationship it's a bond itself wtf you need marrige to be loyal to each other and you don't want to be a option to your partner it is insulting
If u aren't married, I hope in love marriage ur husband/wife Post Engagement and Pre Marriage don't explore other women/men in the name of 'situationship". Ranveer face was disappointed after hearing that in the show. So are the reactions from public as well. Irony is that in 2014 Deepika herself in an interview said she don't believe in dating multiple people etc. Deepika is a bigggg 🚩
This was actually the first time on the show they were talking about real stuff.. and not trolling other people. I was shocked to see all the backlash online.
There was absolutely nothing wrong in the episode. Making memes and saying Ranveer was hurt or offended through one screengrab from an hour long episode is laughable. and also whats disgusting is that this has become an opportunity for people to slutshame Deepika despite it being made very clear that they were both MUTUALLY in a casual relationship. let alone the fact that this was years ago and now they're a happily married couple.
Exactly!! They weren't in a long term committed relationship, and neither were they married. I don't understand why people are comparing her to Jada Smith, who had an 'entanglement' as a married woman.
Oh my god finally someone that is talking sensibly like it is a talk show an hour of entertainment is all the importance it deserves have a laugh and move on!!
See, this is why SRK didn't want to give any interviews before Pathan and Jawan release. Its like one mis step and everything he worked hard for goes down the drain. Even if this episode of KWK had aired before the release of the films, I feel it would have made atleast a small dent on the hype surrounding the movies and ppl would have thought of watching them on ott rather than theatre
I mean even in arranged marriage setups people do talk with few selected suitors to know the likings/dislikings and more about that person before committing to the final one then why this one is getting portrayed as red flag nd all.. Also, coming out of depression and anxiety and then being open and vocal about it and more importantly trusting 1 person is way tough than one can imagine (few can who have been in similar situations).. No one is taking about how mental health was discussed in this episode, how Ranveer created safe space for her to feel comfortable and how even Karan spoke about him battling it alone and seeking the much needed help after crying heart out. I mean it still takes guts to own and speak about it when majority has a thinking that oh these people are rich then how can they suffer from depression which is so wrong in so many ways.. I hope to see more people being open and out about their feelings and emotions.. It was a good episode..
That awkward reaction of him was because he didn't want he to say that obviously while narrating the fairy tale..dp came as more real about it ...which basically triggered rs as she mention " we were both seeing another ppl " maybe he didn't Want her to include him as it effects his image so he goes later to say there were 3 suitors to exclude himself from that open relationship which is so clever !
@@AnSid86 lol she was being honest while he drowning in lies...she had to say something true after all the lies he said...it's actually called being spineless or a coward when u don't admit doing these things just to sound nice and leave it all on ur wife... Don't worry about him..because all he cares about is his image and we know that no one is trolling himself for the casual dating...only her ! Slutshaming and disgusting memes are only saved for women
My biggest takeaway from this episode remains that it was refreshing that there were more vulnerable moments of three people who feel free to confide in each other. The mental health confession of both Deepika and KJo were heartfelt but equally impressed about Ranveer take about what's a partner role in being the support system. That whole "open relationship" from where their relationship STARTED is ridiculous. The sl**-shaming is ridiculous when as you said, it's something both parties knew about. The Will Smith parallel is absurd. The fact that people don't even agree with a mature statement that "marriage is work everyday to make it last" is demonstrative hoe people live in fantasyland that love starts rosy and remains rosy without any hiccups. From what it seems, regardless of PR, is that both Ranveer and Deepika seem to be in a very happy, secure and safe space with each other, it's so pointless evaluating about how the story started. imo.
Exactly. People just catch a line & split it to nano bits just to build details wtout anything truly being obvious/ evident or there being any real proof
Oh I didn't knw that love starts with open relationships where its only ok if U r sleeping arnd with multiple partners while having one person as a back up plan..remb ranveer never said that he was also exploring other options nd sleeping arnd...also remb wht a huge deal deepika made out when ranbir started seeing katrina while being with her nd labelled it as being" cheated upon".. while she she doing the same with ranveer that too after saying that she doesn't do frivolous relationships, she is contradicting her statements nd her behavior way too much times here...thats all jst messed up,
I feel deepika did a bad job explaining the seeing other people part. She probably meant she went on a few dates initially without committing to a relationship and then after certain time became serious with Ranveer
First pehle apni casual dating or current husband then option share krna literally gadhapan tha on a public platform It's crazy she shared this without considering ki uske husband ki kya dhachiya udegi badme
dude she did explain it, she said that they werent serious and were technically allowed to talk to other people, people are literally cutting off that part lmao
She said what was there just browse through the internet there was a small report which said that Farhan missed call her some 87 times a report which was promptly send out of circulation..(obviously those calls weren't for don 3) Shahid Kapoor could have been one of those guys since there were reports of his awkward equation with Bhavnani ..what Deepika has defined as 'FUN' In her conversation is that same hush hush word starting with S which 90 percent of Indian like to brush under their carpets 😅
Karan literally said : "dp u were out of a breakup and single for a while and ranveer you were IN a long term relationship"..yet the social media decided to Target the woman for saying she didn't want to commit and they never decided on exclusivity in the beginning... While sympathising on the guy who chose to move on from one girl to another. If this isn't double standards I don't know what is. I also noticed that dp actually wanted to keep shut as long as she could, somehow she started to speak honestly about how their relationship started n boom.
It is coz she used to portray herself as a pious woman who was wronged by Ranbir and she played the victim while constantly targetting Katrina and Alia through her PR ...now that her lies are exposed, people are calling her out...its not double standard...its called Karma...
@@gladys829 She said in the KWK episode with Priyanka that she doesnt believe in casual relationships...either she is in it fully or not...she doesnt believe in the concept o casual dating...so was she lying then or now??
The expression Ranveer showcased is perfectly normal. No one springs with joy when your partner talks about their exes. What Deepika did before settling with Ranveer is what almost everyone does at least in metro cities and is very common and normalised. And then to the point where Ranveer sounded irritated, it was normal too! He wasn’t really angry, it’s called having banter and it was nothing more than a friendly squabble. I know soo many people who do the same with their partners and it’s just friendly and having fun. You can’t always be I love you I love you all the time! There’s just so much stupidity floating in memes on social media it’s hilarious. Then again, I’m only reacting to what was portrayed by the couple and not what they are or are not in their real life. It was a beautiful episode filled with vulnerability and finally Karan who has more than definitely matured so well. Take a chill pill with this!
Was looking for someone to say this!! I thought I was the only one who felt it was just banter between the two of them! Thoroughly enjoyed the episode!
Watcn the episode of KWK where Deepika came with Priyanka and said idk how to casual date, idk how can people be with someone and not commit and now she comes and says the opposite citing trust issues and depression. Major Hypocrisy alert!!!
Just adding my thoughts here. As Deepika said, she had just come out of a long term relationship- a relationship which she thought was 'The one' (she even had a tattoo of his name), only to get cheated on. So naturally she will be wary of any relations. So it makes sense that she wanted a casual relation. She didn't give her 100% till he proposed bcoz she didn't want to repeat the same mistakes. Also if it was a mutual decision, who are we to judge??
I totally agree with you. People don't realize how getting cheated on fucks up betrayed's mind and how insecure they become to new relationships. But, the only valid concern regarding Deepika's non-exclusive mutual relation with ranveer is did the 'other partners' whom she and him dated know that their dates are keeping their options open??
@Athi102 ya agreed. But controversies like these are needed to break barriers. They make people talk. They argue. They bring points and counter points to back their arguments. Meanwhile, people who are listening to both sides learn something useful.
I personally really liked this episode. Everyone was quite vulnerable about important things. And while ranveer and deepika may have whatever relationship they do, they actually raked about some very important actions required in a good relationship - intent, patience, care giving, support pillar, honesty. But most importantly, whatever happens between a couple with each other's consent is their business.
@@rajattyagi8963India is still not so open minded to know about their star’s hoe phases which is good for our society. We should always look down upon these kind of people and not promote these kind of mentality.
@@rajattyagi8963how come... casual dating is okk..agreed...but why keep ranveer as a backup...how can she say... while seeing other guys...in the back of my head I was committed to ranveer...just reverse the gender then that guy is the biggest red flag... when a girl does this it's her choice..but when a guy does it...he is toxic...do u even know the meaning of misogyny 😂
@@rajattyagi8963if not a backup then who was ranveer before the proposal... "while seeing other guys I was committed to him" explain that...ok they were allowed to see other guys while dating each other...fair enough.. their choice...but why was ranveer mad about this during interview...if it was a mutual decision..see I don't give a f** about this celebrities...all these replies is 4 u r dumb** comment calling the previous person commented as a mysogynist... hypocrisy at it's peak
@@rajattyagi8963 That’s called keeping a guy on the hook. She already knew that for Ranveer it’s a lot clearer and that he’s not going anywhere. So the whole open relationship just gave her the option to look around without any accountability knowing she has him on the hook. And she is done with the fun she can go back to the doormat she has created! 😂😂
5:28 I remember an iconic moment from Katrina Kaif where she said that anything said on the show is considered the gospel truth and the analysis that takes place.
Honestly, I found the episode very entertaining and honest and couldn't care less about the drama sorrounding it. But , I understand how hurt one could be when their partner openly insults them and it was very evident from ranveer's face that he was hurt and disappointed.
She literally didn't considered kya dhachiya udegi badme uske husband ki when she shared wo situation mai ranveer was a option for her Imagine doing this to your partner on a national public platform
Because it happened to a man. I was not committed till he proposed sunne me causal lagega lekin yehi cheez ek ladka bole ki aaree meri biwi toh kaha jane wale thi yehi to thi meri backup plan...toh bas me 4-5 ladki ko side me s3x kar raha tha...baki aur kuch khas pasand aayi nahi...toh isi k pass wapas aana pada..that is what this all is...language badalane se reality tone down nahi ho jati.
If he was insulted he wouldn't repeat her words and call her my love I knew I would be the one...right after she said that ! He was just worried because she was saying this on the show 😂
@@rainbow6571 if you would be in his position would be start crying or start showing your anger ?? Bro don't be so dumb, he doesn't wanted to show how insulted he's feeling
7:40 onwards... I appreciate Jamy for standing for the unfair slur-shamming subjugation Deepika is going through. Perfect assessment of something blowing out of proportion.
I love your level-headed approach to everything, whether it be reviews or anything else regarding the film and TV industry. It's refreshing after seeing a couple other dudes (and women too, in their comments) tripping over themselves to call her a toxic red flag and that she was only keeping Ranveer as a backup. When I watched my first video regarding this situation, I thought the outrage was because Ranveer didn't seem comfortable (and I'd even say he looked angry/disappointed/hurt) that Deepika spilled something private about their dating phase to the public; i.e. people were of the opinion she should've not talked about it because it didn't seem Ranveer was okay with talking about it, which meant she disrespected Ranveer as her partner. I didn't think the outrage was that they were in an open relationship.
Same here saw a review by Shan prasher. I was surprised that he and the people in comments don't know about casual dating as a thing in this timeline. I mean I know even my friends have done that until they became "exclusive". People don't put all their eggs in one basket. I don't understand why hypocritical so called moral Indians 😂 shame people who do when they can look around and perhaps their own people are doing that. Our country is full of prudes who don't have actual morals. Not to mention the guys were acting as if Deepika cheated on them😂😂. Like no need to show off your misogyny in public. We Indian men are famous for that😂😂😂
The people were angry she was casually dating. They compared her with their own class of people 😅. Which is dum because they are not living like a small town people.
@@randomlyswatching9481 ik ! It's not even about a hookup ...casual dating is about meetings actually! All these trolls are making it sound like she banged every guy she saw ! 😑 Guys for these guys ...dating is sex and it's just disgusting that they are exposing their toxic thoughts on sm like that ! Wonder how girls in their real life will react 🤢
It's genuinely upsetting how this has been blown out of proportion. A couple were in a sort of open relationship before they were fully committed. It's possible that, initially, Ranveer was more sure about the relationship than Deepika was (which perhaps explains Ranveer's reaction) until she too was finally convinced. What's wrong with that? The problem, as you point out, is more with our fan projections on these stars than with the stars themselves. The way Deepika is being slut-shamed now on social media says more about us than about them. The fact that, at times, their reactions seemed awkward has also to do with the immense pressure of coming to this show and constantly being afraid about what might blow up on social media. Every relationship has its good, bad, and ugly, and we should first learn to acknowledge this instead of projecting our idealized romantic fantasies onto the personal lives of our stars. *Okay, end of hot-take*
We should always look down on “open relationships”. This is how society and families are broken. Just look at America. It’s right that people are frowning on her statement as we’re still a conservative culture.
Thats not the point why ppl are pissed. Being in consensual open relationshops is fine..but deepika has been a hypocrite here. In her own words she said she and ranveer started dating in 2012 and initially it was an open relationship bcoz she didnt want to be committed....but in a 2013 kwk interview she tried to be this moralist woman saying "i dont understand this in between phase of dating but not committing, i dont understand the concept of frivolous relationships, casual dating etc" So how can u say all this nonsense in 2013 that u dont understand casual dating etc when u urself have started casual dating in 2012, and while giving this 2013 interview where u denied being interested in casual dating, u were actually doing that!!! Thats like lying to another extent.
With Ranbir Kapoor I think if we reverse the role and he would have said 1. Alia doesnt like blue colour on me, so I have changed my wardrobe 2. I used to scream while having agreements which Alia doesnt like so I am trying to change myself Ranbir would be the biggest biggest green flag ever !
Nope. Alia would be called too controlling and dominating in the relationship. In the circle of men, Ranbir would be dismissed as "Joru ka Gulam", "pu$$y-whipped" and whatever slurs there are.
People having an opinion is not the issue. It is how they are expressing it. Slut shaming her, calling her the red flag, feeling bad about ranveer, isn't the way to go about it. I mean they both were seeing other people and casually dating. The fact that they are still together after 11 years proves that they are committed.
Kaha the yehi equality ke pujari jab Ranbir ko ye sab bola jata tha/hai. Tab toh koi nahi Bolta ki choice hai...🤦😂 Hum ladke hi ch**iya hote hai, sab kuch sun ke le lete hai.
@@Asine Exactly when it's a man's fault women victimize women and blame the hell out of a man,NO ISSUES,but when a women is at fault woman say oh toxicity has no gender,anyone can be wrong,I don't support her, The rage is VERY different,as if ranbir said the same thing you will burn him with the hate you have for him or just for man in general who are not according to your rules and standards
This episode was far better than the whole previous season..Most of the episodes are cringe watch in Season 7.. Specially That Sara-Janvi episode..Karan was mean to Sara, Calling Janvi S** Symbol, they are calling Vijay Cheeze and discussing dating lifes, indirectly mentioning Kartik Aryaan was more cringe... Atleast in this episode there was A good discussion about Depression and their own personal lifes not others😅
This video was much needed. There is a difference between what a celebrity should promote through sponsorship and what his or her personal choices are. It's only fair to condemn an actor if he promotes paan masala but it's extremely unethical and hypocritical of us to expect them to be perfect in their personal lives.
Hmm it's fair to criticize them for promoting paan masala because???? Because paan masala ain't good for the people in general and the youth, kids who idolize them follow them blindly Same goes for promiscuity. If celebs with huge fan following among teens and youth start promoting casual datings, open marriages and stuff( when they are one of the leading cause of depression) in the society.. i believe they should be slammed too... Both Pann Masala and Promiscuity is unhealthy for any society with long term consequences. 😊
And people who are criticizing her for her actions have the freedom of expression.. they do get huge fan following for their beauty, dressing sense and stuff right.. She gets highly paid for participating in Public protests.. she knows the value of HER STAND. She is smart enough. when you are a public figure.. you attract both fame and criticism... Anything you say or do as a public figure shall attract Opinions of public. Maybe thats why Anushka Sharma avoids such things. She barely reveals anything worth gossip about her relationship. That's maturity which Deepika lacks. 😊 That's pretty obvious.
@@aspirant5410 Again who cares what they do in their life. They are immoral and flawed human beings. Wasting one's time on how much they (celebs) should maintain themselves in public eyes is going to make one crazy.
I completely agree with what you're saying. However, what I find hypocritical that no such benefit of doubt was given to Ranbir Kapoor when he simply told his wife to remove a lipstick. He was destroyed on SM. I'm a woman but I find it extremely off that Deepika Padukone gets a free pass for everything but Ranbir Kapoor doesn't.
I watched the episode after seeing numerous videos on my feed about Toxic Deepika. And I am amazed that this is even an issue. My understanding is that at the time, she was clear that she did not want to get into a serious relationship. How is someone toxic if they are upfront about their preference and the other person is accepting of it? That is very different from sneaking off with someone while being in a committed relationship.
I love this word called, Sonder. It means each random passerby (including these celebs) is living a life as complex and vivid as our own. Just makes me more empathetic towards humans in general.
The significant outrage revolves around a relatability factor: most men felt it when Ranveer got awkward, and Deepika said to be window shopping while, in reality, she was with him in her mind. It's No guy wants to hear this, and it felt personal to many. Now, they have the means to share that frustration by criticizing Deepika... and it will go on because "CONTENT"!!
Everybody criticises Ranbir for his relationships especially with Katrina and Deepika just because they are well known in the media. Yet we all know that Katrina cheated on Salman with Ranbir and some might not know that DP also cheated on her Bf Nihar Pandya with Ranbir, which Pandya himself confessed. It is a shame that Katrina and DP gets away with being the “Good Girls” while Ranbir gets bashed by their fans 24/7. The guy dint even bitch about any single one of his exes like they do. Ranbir might have been promiscuous before but not more than Deepika as she herself confessed many times she had a phase of “relationships” after Ranbir. She even justifies her “hoe phase” by playing the “depression card”. I really hate her fans who try to defend her while bash Ranbir for anything he does even after he’s happily married.
This comment. Absolutely loved it. Katrina, Priyanka, Deepika all these leading ladies stepped on many guys to reach where they are today. All the time people say Vicky is lucky to land a girl like katrina it's obviously the other way around. Katrina even after betraying many landed a guy like Vicky. Same goes with DP. Ranveer is an extrovert can be weird but has never done something to hurt anyone.
You're 100% right about the hypocrisy we humans show while talking about such matters. Like our brain goes"ha thik hai itna kya ho gaya" And wanting more at the same time which is really funny and concerning at the same time. Sometimes it's just alarming how much f we give about our favs being perfect and not thinking that every human is flawed. The concept of clinical depression would never be taken seriously by us humans, but drama, my god drama we want. 😂😂
I don’t see anything scandalous about their initial getting together. They were both allowed to see other people. Deepika said that she had already chosen Ranveer in her heart. And when he later proposed they chose each other and have been together ever since. It is so clear that these two love each other. They are cool, hardworking people. And they look great together, which is important in their line of work. Besides, we don’t know anything else about their personal life. Also, which BW couple doesn’t have any previous dating history? Ranbir had a very public break up with Katrina and then married Alia. Alia broke up with Siddharth, who then married Kiara. Katrina married Vicky after dating Salman, Ranbir. The point is, no one’s relationship history was perfect. Why this much negativity for Deepika’s mental health journey, her dating history and what not? Let her be. She and Ranveer were a bit awkward in the interview. That’s all. But none of what they said is out of place.
So if she had already chosen Ranveer in her heart, why see other people??? just for physical??? coz mentally, as you said, she is committed to Ranveer... And even if lets say its just for physical she went out with others...the last time in KWK when she came with Priyanka...in that episode she said she doesnt believe in the concept of just dating without any connect...so what was she trying to portray?? was she slut shaming others who were casually dating then???
The whole point which people are raging over is this mentality of choosing a relationship of convenience where one person is being made to wait while the other completes his or her window shopping options and then returns to the original one it's a scenario which was presented in biwi no 1 as well where Salman had the freedom to go and commit in indulgences and Karishma Waited..
She was mentally commited to him but still was hoeing around, and she continiued to see people UNTIL HE PROPOSED so thats far beyond the talk stage and initial get together.
@@ravied2946 she dated other people to see if she had a connection. And she already chose Ranveer after going out with a few men and then realising that he was her choice. Seriously you are so illogical.
I was swooning after that episode until I heard everyone's opinion. Keep in mind the dating incident happened years ago and at least he knew about them. Is she toxic for having options? Is Lata Mehra from A Suitable Boy toxic? She had 3 suitors.
Hi. Not bashing Deepika. But I could conclude the only reason why some had issues with Deepika's statements and why maybe they're accusing her as a red flag maybe due to the fact that one hand you're praising your now husband to be your strongest support system, but he was never your first choice and that you're publicly claiming after five years of marriage? Also the reason many men are specifically having issues with this just a few days back Ranbir Kapoor was slammed left, right and center for his past life and how he apparently treats his wife. But some people are forgetting that Deepika too had a colourful dating life back then. So again, if Alia and Ranveer don't have any problems with their spouses then who are we to comment on it. But then don't praise someone and call them empowering and powerful when a few days back you were bashing someone else for their chemistry with their spouse. Lastly personally I felt bad for Ranveer at a point specifically because he looked genuinely upset. To ya. That's all. Thanks for reading it.
@@sabatasmia8789 Okay I won't comment on Ranbir because I don't particularly like him so what I do is if I don't have anything good to say I shut up. He is a great actor though. She had depression in 2014 and she said the first 6 months of the relationship she had other suitors meaning 2012/2013. Let's get the timeline straight. She didn't know he was the one at the same time he did but she eventually realized it. She thought she had the one before and the one found another one... so please crucify the girl for being cautious. Dating is trial and error. If people think it's toxic please do like Shahid and get it arranged. Watch How the brain falls in love by Dawn Maslar. You will see this from a different POV.
@@sabatasmia8789 she wasn't ranveers first choice either. He was actually not even single if we go by what was said in the episode. And if u watch her entire answer from the episode she articulated pretty well that they were both not committed n were technically allowed to see others.. so how is ranveer suddenly the victim now? After copy pasting the same story for anuska and Deepika? Besides gender bias, i notice a typical bias that works in favor of extrovert versus introvert. The one who talks and expresses too much in public is perceived as the honest loving one, and the one who is introvert and guarded must always be the cold culprit. Guess same thing happened for rambir as well. (Nothing against Rambir, but please check out neetu Kapoor's interview about her husband once. Flexing about how many flings n one night stands her husband has had throughout their marriage and she being aware of them..n here we are judging ppl of what they did in their early twenties, before marriage or engagement)
@@lungisileluu3458 look my irritation is more about the keyboard warriors then her. The double standard the people on Internet shows. I mean Ranbir or Deepika they both have a colourful past. That's fine that's their life. But don't bash one and call him a casinova and playboy and praise another in the name of women empowerment. They shouldn't say that Alia is with a living red flag and for Ranveer say he should be okay with her past. Also the Dhoni, Yuvraaj, Nihar Pandya scene happened way before 2012. But still it's fine. She was exploring her options. Again it's just the double standard of the people over the internet because one is a guy and the other is a woman with a smart PR. In short, ek ko hai hai aur ek ko waah waah ye to ghalat hai for things they did identical if not similar at least. Also talking about Ranveer and Alia, they too weren't any saints before they got married. Lastly, I liked the way you've put forward your point in a civilised manner.
@@sabatasmia8789 I hear you. I think people are just projecting their insecurities on these couples. Be it the modern feminist, or the men who feel betrayed by her. They are sometimes so set in their ways they can't think critically about things. Thanks for the stimulating conversation it was a delight.
Just goes to show how negative people only choose to hear what they want to hear just so they can point fingers at others. Even the lipstick thing with Alia and Ranbir, people calling him a red flag conviniently skipped the part when she said Ranbir doesn't like the lipstick because he likes the natural color of Alia's lips and started trolling him.
@@shivamgusain5185 not all women do that but I do agree that the women who participate in these baseless trollings are capable of saying a lot of stupid shit.
I feel like somewhere trying to be genuine and "real " they just messed up. And also just portraying Karan Johar is some kind of evil mastermind is not totally fine. People need to think and take responsibility for their actions and words they have taken or spoken out.
Karan isn't at fault this time at least He simply asked normal questions N the answers are what caused the outrage Why he is getting bash this time I'm not getting the point unfortunately 😅
Tbh this is how celebrities' lives are. They have multiple casual flings with their co-stars and all and they're all okay with it. It's the dark reality of the entertainment industry that no matter how much you try to neglect will always remain true
Whatever they do is fine. That's their personal life. But then they shouldn't come up as morality advocates and try to preach to the world about relationships. Neither should they try to justify debauchery and force people to make it a new normality. Sant nahi ho toh gyaan bhi mat do. Simple as that. Also, she is a big-time hypocrite. Victimizing herself as a person who is in depression after the breakup so that Ranbir can be looked at as a bad person in the situation, Acting all perfect relationship material in the previous season and now trying to justify her promiscuity. Her PR team are working overtime to save her "Rani Sa" image.
Not only celebs, it has become very common with ordinary people too... men, women, girls and boys are into casual flings, can't blame..one has ro decide what life one has ro lead.
@@vishalkhalani6726I get where you’re coming from…however, Ranbir can still be called out for a cheater while Deepika can also be called out for the situationship she put Ranveer in. Humans are flawed and they aren’t black and white. Deepika doesn’t have to be perfect for anyone to feel bad for her for being cheated on by Ranbir, and Ranbir also doesn’t have to be prefect for the masses to slaughter him for his cheating. People are using this episode to say “we owe Ranbir an apology” an apology for what? He still cheated, and isn’t any better of a human. People look at everything with a black and white lense, it’s ridiculous.
Hi Jammy...thank you so much for giving such a nuanced take on this topic. ❤ According to me, neither Deepika nor Ranveer said anything untoward in that episode. I have watched the whole of it and carefully so, as I am a fan of KWK (barring some episodes) and this episode was quite refreshing and "genuinely" emotional (at least it seemed so to me, can't speak for others) Also, coming to the entire conversation which started all the influx of trolls towards the couple...I think Deepika (correct me if I am wrong) clearly said that at that time she n Ranveer had met each other and just started liking each other. But they didn't instantly start dating! So when they weren't dating, Deepika still had a soft-corner for Ranveer and liked him but were meeting (or seeing) others as though she clearly had a liking towards him and knew about it "at the back of her mind" but wasn't really sure of it. She said that she used to find herself coming back to Ranveer and felt committed to him "mentally", which means she realised who her heart beats for and both eventually start dating (at least this is what I understood). Hence, I feel she was not infidel to Ranveer because she and him clearly didn't start dating when she was "meeting" other people. Coming back to Ranveer's reaction...I think he just reacted the way he reacts and he wasn't upset or anything. He is a bit quirky in his expressions, at times which is actually fun to watch as an audience. When he used the word "suitors", Deepika and Karan just asked who were they and I think Deepika just didn't want to reveal any names so she was trying to diffuse the situation and Ranveer also understood it clearly (he is more loving and understanding towards Deepika than all of us combined) And it was their past...so let us please keep it in their past. Also, it seems like Ranveer and Deepika know in and out about one another's dating history and still love each other and are sticking together. Then, why are the trollers getting so offended is beyond me 🙈 (P.s.: This is not me defending or offending anyone. Just an observation. Especially because I was utterly shocked to see such an uproar towards an episode which I personally found was one of the warmest KWK episodes)
Tbh it's pretty common to date around until you find the one. As long as both parties are aware of it, it's all good. Also, a lot of time clinical depression is expressed in a constant cycle of seeking connection with people. Sometimes that means a lot of casual relationships. I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing but it is what's real.
I always wonder that how there are so many topics to discuss with celebrities that can help outsiders in gaining information about various aspects of film industry , or they can recall some nostalgic memories about bts scenes of their particular movies ,etc . Then even karan Johar chooses to be a typical Asian aunt who loves gossiping about personal matters only .
I think one thing not discussed is the hypocrisy of Deepika, where her stories make no sense. She had said she is not into casual relations in the time frame as she is now describing her casual relations. This means that the "mature" persona she had built was a total lie. She had complained about Ranbir Kapoor but it turns out she is the same as him.
RK was criticised for having a lot of relationships, she’s also had a lot. She dated Dhoni,Yuvraj, Nihar Pandya, Siddharth Mallya. She managed to play the victim card very well
RK was criticized about cheating in his relationships. Here ppl don’t care that she didn’t cheat but instead care that she has dated many ppl lol that’s a fair assessment of character
Ranbir did wrong. For which He has facing a big loss of reputation till now!!! But Deepika did the same with Yuvi!!!!! But Everytime she put blame on others!!!! She has a very good PR team!!! Now people are seeing her real face!! Though her PR team will convert these hate into postive narration in no time.. Blv me😊😊
This is just ridiculous, she never cheated on RS nor she said she is sleeping around. She was meeting other guys and the thing didnt clicked as much as she did with RS. How is that different, then meeting guys via arranged marriage setups to find the right guy...via family. You still go out and chat with that prospect. Also RS was also seeing other woman..Zhe said IF we were allowed to see others ppl,she didnt want to. Yes, she contradicted her statement from kwk earlier season
In our society, promiscuity is something which is not acceptable with women. We have the most vile hatred for prostitutes but not for the ones who traffick those women n children and are the driving consumers of it all. Well, infidelity and monogamy is a grey topic and everyone has very strong opinions about it (specially the unmarried ones). High time people realise that celebrities have 'PR' images and they are not like their portrayal onscreen. Even if they are in open marriage, Deepika is weirdly obsessed with a particular ex, she should tone that down in public interactions, those Tamasha promotions were weird. Ranveer is no saint either, we all have seen the AIB roast and still the gossip market is buzz with his escapades. Noone is a victim in their marriage.
Who said that they rim an open marriage ? I hope we all watched the same episode..she just talked about how they got together more than a decade ago long before they were married or even engaged
While calling actors like ranbir salman playboys (which is true😂) people often forget that actresses they dated have also been playgirls . Hook up and flings are common in entertainment industry.
It would be interesting to see how RS will talk about DP on next award show! I don't think she said anything bad, one goes on many dates so end up with a person you want to spend the rest of your life with. All the best to them.
This controversy is so blown out of proportion. Who are we to judge them about their personal relationships when they themselves do not have a problem? Unnecessary slut shaming Deepika is just entertainment for people when all she said was that they were in a casual & open relationship in the initial stages when they were not really committed to each other. Isn't that how a lot of modern dating works?
Exactly, this is such a stupid controversy. I'm not one to cry misogyny over every little thing, but it's so blatant here. They weren't committed then, so both were free to date casually, but then they made things official, and they've been together for years and seem happy. Why people are choosing to create drama is beyond me.
@@BlackFiresong in 2014 she said for the same time period she was looking for commitment and now she is saying there was no commitment as such,THE ABSOLUTE WORST IS people are saying people change with time you stupid morons It is for the same time period
@@BlackFiresong People are trolling because there was no need to bring something like this up this is ABSOLUTE demeaning of her to say this,i am 1000% if a male actor said this the outrage will be hell lot of different
Bro Graham Norton show parallel is wild. That show is so fun and has stories that are told to make fun of the actor(as it's British comedy) but they never go into these scandalous conversations rather they try to make the actor more likeable at the end of the show. Ryan Gosling and Andrew Garfield are some of my favorite guests.
But she shouldn't have criticised ranbir kapoor for being disloyal when she herself is into open relationship. Ranbir kapoor was unfairly bashed and trolled for many years. Dipika should be trolled and bashed for being a hypocrite
@@endisnear306 I understand your point. But again, it's people on the internet who make a big deal out of celebrities relationships. Deepika ne kuch bola, Alia ne lipstick ka kuch bola, everyone on the internet starts with memes and trolls. That's the same happening here. That was wrong, this is wrong too. Apne ko kya hi karna hai inke relationships se😂 but logo ko bohot chul hoti hai. It's all fun till they start using vulgar words and slut shame someone
@@Harsh_0812 I have never cared about silly comments made by actors but but it's not right for dipika to call out RK's infidelity when they were just casually dating. RK was trolled a lot by the audience. Even katrina wasn't spared. If dipika is getting karma then so be it
I personally believe it is our fault to assume that any relationship can be perfect. It’s not about being perfect, it’s all about keeping a healthy dynamic…
I have no problem with one's relationships, physical or mental ( in dp's language) but the problem lies in the fact that padukone in these many years have always tried to portray herself as someone who only believes in being with one person at a time, Hypocrisy is what irks me.
how is she a hypocrite when she literally is with only person at this time? She literally said they weren't committed to each other and were seeing other people. Do people have brains when they talk shit or do they lose it every time they see a woman say something they don't like?
morality is not an ethical tool, its a function that runs on fear. the more you make money, the less you fear, the less you fear, less is the motivation to be moral. never ever expect a rich person to abide by moralities of a poor person.
@@novkalp21185 but the definition changes accordingly. Ameer logon ko Footpath pe gaadi chadhane mein ghanta farak nahi padta, wahi koi EWS ka Banda ye karde. Zindagi jhand ho jayegi
@@PureRythm what I meant to say was, that choosing the path of morality is a conscious choice and has nothing to do with money. I agree with you about the consequences, rather a fear of consequences differs according to the socio-economic position in society. But we can agree that morally corrupt people are everywhere, rich or poor. But as you said, my definition of morality is what I would do in front of everyone or even in the absence of an audience, that's a choice, ingrained within, and not dictated by external forces such as rules or laws.
@@novkalp21185 exactly...!! Your first statement is what is needed in today's generation. Doesn't matter rich or poor, Morality should be a Compulsion rather than a Choice. But then again, every human thinks of it differently. Kaun Kya kar jaaye, koi nahi bol sakta.👍✌️
It’s really unfortunate that we still continue to judge women and hold them to different standards. It’s okay for two people to have a different understanding of the situation and perhaps explore different relationships if there is nothing serious. With Deepika everyone knows from the past that when she has truly committed she has been a loyal partner. I don’t see male actors who have infact cheated go through this much scrutiny. I also was quite disappointed that people are just calling this one thing a red flag. An hour of edited episode doesn’t give one enough information to judge two people’s relationship. Also, the courage to talk in such depth about depression and acknowledging one’s partners effort and support should be the central conversation. Again, can’t believe just based of one comment about what happened 11 years ago people are judging a person who at that time was undergoing depression, was on medication and did what they could to survive. Of all the important things discussed, is that what we want to take away from this!
You have not seen male actors targetted?? were you living under a rock when Deepika's PR shamelessly attacked Ranbir for his each and every sentence and expressions and called him manwhore and what not...
The thing I learned by this incident, now or later, you just can't expect society to be a sober listener and understand your truth... It is just the matter of "You want to be crucified Now or later?"😅
Atleast they are talking about themselves... Previous season was all about questions related to s** , body counts, How many people I have dated and too many unnecessary mentions of Kartik aryaan, Calling Vijay cheeze etc... Atleast they talked about an important issue like depression...
7:34 Man... If it was Ranveer who said that stuff... Everyone would've pelted stones at him. When it's Deepika, shit turns to sympathy?? This generation is screwed.
That’s so interesting that you saw it that way. I feel like she was dating around and didn’t really think she thought of those guys as actually “suitors” like potential long term. So that is why she was confused. I also think Ranveer Singh is hilarious and when he speaks in Hindi he becomes so relatable. I think people nowadays just overthink and over assume and cross those lines like you said!
I don't understand how come deepika getting cheated or left out is justified for her poor mental health but she seeing multiple persons and even accepting it after many years can not justify Ranveer Singh's reaction. She should have restrained from glorifying this publicly. Maybe ranveer was never comfortable with it.
I hate to judge celebrities but DP's body language for the last few years looks strange to me...I mean she doesn't give positive vibes anymore..on the other hand Anushka looks way postive and stronger now
Anushka is not close to karan johar gang unlike deepika ranveer. She's literally living her best life just had kids, turned spiritual, traveling the world with virat, producing best shows with outsiders.
It’s not actually totally people reacting to it as something unethical, but it’s about how celebrities have projected themselves and their relationships to be an epitome that one can look upto. The recent incident being, that one clip from their wedding going viral where Ranveer is seen wiping off Deepika’s tear and actually eating it, with all the comments around being a biggest green flag ever, it’s maybe about people empathising with Ranveer who’s on the giving end and maybe in people’s eye is not getting reciprocated with what he deserves.
I don't understand why was Deepika giving talks about her "battle" with depression but at the same time turning to drugs to fight it or escape the realities of her love life struggles. It just doesn't add up. Devalues the REAL struggle that someone who is clinically depressed and has come out of it without falling for short term fixes like the bottle or drug. Her PR painted her like an icon of fighting her demons when it was indeed all a facade. That's problematic both at individual health level and from an ethical standpoint.
The issue is not what they are doing with their personal lives.....they can do whatever they want....but its their influence on younger generation...there is a difference between normalizing a situation and blindly following a celebrity's lifestyle thinking "this is the way".
then it's the fault of the younger generation. if they can't filter things that affect their lives they will not be able to make it in this tough world. kids these days are smart enough to distinguish the right from wrong and I'm pretty sure they have parents to help them out as well. in no way is a celeb responsible for anything they said in a talk show. they're talking about their personal lives which you are consciously watching to get to know them more. they say something that you don't agree to and suddenly they are toxic. how immature are you!
@@sssy910 Firstly the thing you said about today's kids are smart enough, I really hope this is true and it will be a boon for our upcoming generation...free of orthodox soceitial bondage...wouldn't that be great!!! Second thing a celeb is not responsible..ok I believe that...but Deepika Padokone is a mental Health Activist..is someone who has represented India in various great platforms...I admire her as a human being...that's what makes her "influencial"...she is not just an entertainer or someone with a camera in their hand and a tag of "influencer". And Talk show is still a public platform. And like I said they can do whatever they want in their personal life....but when they say the things that they say...I really think they meant it...because Deepika is not dumb...they purposefully added this part and didn't edited it out...because they think its the right way. I don't think so and I dont want my future kids to think as such. Matter ends!. Sorry if I offended you. I still admire Deepika....because c'mom she is DEEPIKA PADUKONE!!!!!
@@জীৱনএখনউপন্যাস it is, isn't it? but hamare india mein parents zyaada sex education ke upar discussion nhi krte...forget the topic of multiple partners....sex is something we all learn by ourselves...same goes for you as well I think...just guessing....so if in my teen years I hear something like this from someone I truly adore and admire....I won't go to my parents asking what they said is right or wrong...and netiher will the parents...akward ho jayega naa situation. Thats what I meant by my comment, By the way nice username...very philosophical.
It is not the idea of open relationships people are strongly reacting to. Deepika has been pushing a PR image of sati savitri for years and has been shaming Ranbir Kapoor for cheating on her. She has gone on many shows saying she won't tolerate infidelity. Not even emotional infidelity. Then turns around and says she was seeing other people while dating Ranveer and being in an open relationship. It's the INCONSISTENCY and HYPOCRISY people are reacting to.
@@ranibharadwaj6824 I agree with you, but again, that doesn't align with her brand either. She always portrayed herself as too traditional to be in an open relationship, whether or not the other person is informed. This interview was a 180 degree turn from what she has been saying and implying for years. Hence the backlash.
@@ranibharadwaj6824 I also believe Ranveer was okay with her ways. But he probably didn't expect her to go on national television and brag about being in an open relationship, which must have been embarrassing for him and possibly not discussed prior to the interview. Hence the shock on his face. In the video, you can clearly see him attempting to put it in a diplomatic way by starting off to say "even though others were courting her, we were drawn to each other"(or something equally positive), when she interrupted him with "like who?" and then desperately following it up with "I don't remember". Then he had to actually say "I remember very clearly". It was super cringe and Deepika didn't come out looking innocent.
i totally agree with you on slut shaming and how fans wants see how celebrity should be like and they should meet fans definition of an ideal couple rather than see them as another human being with good ,bad and ,ugly and imposing our morals on them even if they are comfortable in whatever type of relationship they wants to have and also not to spill personal conversation on a tv show IF your partner is not comfortable BUTTTTT (⬇context: in 2013 on koffee with karan she said " i don't know how to casually date i don't know how to be in this in-between sort of dating but not committing" ) But the problem i have with lying about yourself which make me feels you are trying to paint picture which you are not and not being honest. this is where problem i have that atleast be honest if you don't wants public to know about something then don't talk about it rather than lie . Ranbir has been involved in many controversies for relationship but he atleast he was honest and knowledged his mistakes if he did
This is why I stay away from today's fake Bollywood actors with their corrupt PR teams. I miss the genuinity of 80s/90s and older actors. Despite their wrongs and rights, they were very honest and real. These days, its just fakeness. Both are red flags in my opinion. Deepika, the bigger one
I can still not understand what was so wrong in her comments? They weren't in a committed relationship so it's normal if she was seeing other people. They didn't cheat with each other after committing. So what's the big deal? I mean everyone does it.
@@wilsonwade6361 yes my friend. Majority of people do. Even the most sanskari families will go to homes of multiple women and 'test' them and then select a bride in arranged marriages. This is a reality.b
A lot of solid long-term monogamous relationships start casually with people seeing other people. Just because, as Indians, this is not as common in our culture doesn't mean it is is immoral, or cheating , or wrong.
@@NailsByAsh813 excuse me deary, if you know that, then stick to what was mentioned. No need to being in your opinion for your personal motives. You people live for gossip and controversies as if you have nothing else in your lives.
@@NailsByAsh813 As for the affair, if you have proof of that, offer it otherwise stick to reading the juicy tabloids. Who are we to say what rumors are true and what are false. Nobody on this earth is a Saint period.
I think Deepika said it very casually and she just wanted to say that Ranveer was the one. They must have been in a open relationship mutually. Ranveer might have also seen others. People judge others very fast these days.
Jammy!!! I'll be honest here, looking at you made me lost all that you said after you appeared the second time. There is something about seeing an influencer rarely on screen in their own videos and when you see them, the link breaks. But as always an unbiased video. Thank you
I love how people forgot 'talking stages' - people nowadays have multiple talking stages to figure who they wanna date so even if DP did it why are people having a hissy fit??
2:46 I have mentioned that it’s all a game of PR and Perception. Even if Deepika was the most virtuous Bangalorean who moved to Mumbai and was the ideal everything, she’d be in the line of fire. Damned if you do, Damned if you don’t
@@PokhrajRoy.Historically it has happened had those 2 gals(sonam and Deepika) not had the gumptions to laugh out loud and wash their dirty linen in public in the same show..isn't the 'Jigolo shaming' which Rk has been getting a decade after all these years.. justifid..I know two wrongs don't make a right but Deeps is a slight offender here in either of the 2 cases: a.disrespecting her earlier statement of preferring a simpler mode of relationship (simple dating then commuting) and now saying that not long after the earlier statement that she wanted a rather open relationship with Ranveer B if not then certainly for sharing too much of private information and disrespecting ranveer in the process.Dont tell the world which side of the bed you sleep on nobody gives a darnn... especially a matter like which involves more than 2 people (ranbir,kat,ranveer,Deepika) and other unnamed ones as well..
One thing i noticed how social media can change ur pov.. Like i watched the episode when it was released nd tbh i enjoyed the episode.... I didn't find anything wrong. I thought these things are part of a celeb life. Nd who cares about it.. But the next day when i started watching all the memes ..reels nd all on Insta and Twitter(X)..i noticed my perspective was not like it was before...
Honestly I see Ranveer intently listening to Deepika and the demons she’s fought with and nothing more, which is why they complement each other so masterfully. And they both have talked about these things multiple times before and he knows and understands where she is coming from. And some “experts” are just reading too much in between the lines.
6:35 let me tell you one thing, I’ve experienced both poverty and wealth in my life. The thing is this depression from social issues are exclusively a rich issue, when you’re poor your emotions are irrelevant
The most awaiting episode of the century,, thank you jammy for the review,, pata nahi tha tumhare itne bure din aa jayengey that you have to review an episode of a koffe show😅
DP has been reckless in her PR moves. Standing by Tukde gang at JNU during Chappakk promo led to movie being cancelled So much of heat and dust in kwk only because She got caught in her own web of lies spontaneously exposed by Ranveer.
In Deepika's case, it was mutual. They both were allowed to see others, RANVEER KNEW IT & he wasnt held at gunpoint. In Ranbir's case, he CHEATED. He was in relationship with one lady & went behind her back to date other women. THE CASES ARE DIFFERENT, DONT JUSTIFY RANBIR BY DRAGGING DEEPIKA'S CASE.
The context was Deepika was heartbroken at that time and not interested in any serious relationship..but her point was that inspite of dating other men at that time her connection with ranveer was so special that every time she comes back to him..and may be that's the reason she married to him..I find it very normal and I am sure many one does the same..there is nothing toxic about it..
Maybe the problem lies in the fact that the kind of dating Deepika mentioned is very western styled & probably masses in India don't relate to. Dating multiple people at the same time to find the right person to be exclusive to is a very Western concept; which I learnt when I moved to US nearly 2 decades back. Maybe this is why I didn't find anything wrong in what she said, but many Indians got upset and thought she wasn't loyal to him
@Maya_hee Correct! Based on what video is being interpreted by people, he's coming across an innocent guy who's shocked by Deepikas revelations. Neither of them are wrong. It's the audience who wants celebrities to live by their moral standards.
We as audience are stupid that we are expecting morality and searching for perfect rolemodels in them when they themselves havent promised any such thing. This is halo effect and group think at play. Why are expecting to learn about relationships from aperson who is just supposed to act and entertain us. In the end we audience are at fault because we are not objective and rational enough. We are trying to view their lifestyle from our moral code when we dont have any data/idea about their actual life is like.
As Tigmanshuji said," Jab tak sanima hai, log ____ bante rahenge"
But showing it in public , opinion will come everybody doesn't have same opinion. And you are wrong they came sometimes as moral role modal telling people what is right and wrong on other things. And expressing people are wrong about something .
@@rajattyagi8963 honestly I don't understand what the fuss is all about. To me it doesn't seem scandalous from whatever info is presented to us. Log til ka taad bana rahe hai. People are projecting themselves in place of Ranveer and feeling victimised when in reality there might not be any such thing.
This I fully agree on we are the stupid ones who even take there opinion seriously on each and every matter .
I agree they are not perfect, they are also flawed humans... so this also means that celebrities are in no position to lecture the public about anything as they know nothing about the real world.... That's the hypocrisy people are talking about...
True, people shouldn't make relationship standard according to celebrities, bro they live PR curated, narcissistic and self interest life and working in industry like this. Get entertained by them watch there movies and not to go beyond this in there life, focus on ur mate.
Ranbir was right. Not about Dipika or his personal matters but about KJo earning from creating controversies on his show.
Yes, imagine if Kangana was not insulted on the Karan Johar show (1st appearance), then in her 2nd appearance, should wouldn't have talked about Napotsim, and Kangana still would be working big moviez
karan johar isnt the one who spoke about seeing muliple people, its the so called celebrity called deepika who spoke about her history.
If these actors aren't smart enough to answer these questions tactfully its nt Karen's fault atall..karan himself hs been bombarded with a lot of rapid fires of his own on multiple occasions nd he hs aced them with his witty humour nd sharp brain, that's y education nd a working brain is important, ppl like deepika r jst too dumb nd rely only on their p.r team to do everything 4 them, bt its hard faking a politically correct nd smart personality all the time when in reality u r quite the opposite person hence,u get exposed when u meet real nd smarter ppl like karan.
These celebs also go there willingly for publicity. Forget nightmare, this is a PR's wet dream.
He also does the same things to make headlines.
If Karan ever manages to get Rekha, Jaya and Amitabh Bachchan on that couch together, it would just be reality TV gold 🤌🏼💀
50+ people don't watch cringe karan johar show
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Yash chopra did it several years ago
DAMN! HAHAH!
@@swatisaini6447 Yash Chopra na?? BTW, Simi the queen did talk about their equation separately years ago. It wasn't scandalous back then.
Points :
1. No there's nothing like people actually glorify sexism with terms to unfaithfulness , ranbir got that same hate for his past and so did she
2. The line “you should never peek behind the curtains for your so called stars” is gold and actually people should just judge them on there movie performances
3. Koffee with karan shouldn't exist only because its less about what's in the future and more about what was in the past
4. I'm on a comode while writing this so pardon
5. Jammy this face cam thing works !! Do it more often !!
Pretty sure point 4 was unnecessary tmi
Flush karna maat bhulna !😂
Itna lamba baithoge to bawaseer ho jayega. Take care of your ass bro.
All shows are abt the past , hw would u knw what is in the future of any actors personal lifes?? Whether they would b getting divorce in future or nt?? Ppl want to knw abt these actor's personal lives nd to do so u ask abt their past
@@sumedhpagare1605 That like by him would have stinkk harddd bruhh !! 😂
"Every disagreement cannot be rooted in misogyny simply because it is expressed by woman and criticized by a man", major props Anmol, I've never heard it said better.
Agreed,
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Buzzword artists think their whole existence will washout if they dont use the word Misogny😂
Echoed my thoughts. More people should know this. Thanks for this quote.
The fact that we have to specify and say this says a lot about how far we're in actually thinking critically in social dynamics 😂😂
Maybe Deepika is a toxic red flag, but as long as Ranveer accepts her past and was well aware of the fact that they were in a casual relationship and they both have moved on as a pair, our opinions won't really matter.🤷♂
Same like Will Smith 😂
@@ezerei2911 Bhai , woh log toh achha khasa paisa kama rahe hain, yeh sab chutiyappa karke tujhko kya milega?😂
If our opinion don't matter so why they shooting this conversation and streaming it on a national platform which is for people to see and to have a opinion about that
@@pratyaymaitra Usko gender ki bakchodi khelni hai. 😂
@@ezerei2911 will and ranveer are gonna stay cucks 💀💀💀💀
I feel bad for karan tbh. He asked a simple question and she chose to give that answer so I am unsure why some people are bashing him. He was not even being pushy to get a controversial answer.
It was nice to see he took the feedback he got last season and had a balance of simple mature questions and also fun stuff. People shouldn't call him call him the gossip aunty in this case cause of the way deepika chose to answer a very straight forward question.
that's a fair assessment!
Isn't he the producer of the show? He could have decided not to air that specific part. He still would have got quite a many views.
I'm pretty sure he's not aired a lot of verbal vomit in the past too.
Karan always wanted to be Simi from her rendezvous show. But he now seems like Rishi Kapoor's character Dean Vashisht from SOTY who makes people compete for his own entertainment...
@@TriedRefusedProductions yeah your kjo’s PR aren’t you ?
Come on he cuts in his movies anywhere randomly, why can't he do here
Why didn’t he cut out this part?
I watched the ep with deepika and Ranveer and I didn’t think anything toxic or immoral was said. They were not married at that point. Also, let’s allow Ranveer to have a serious demeanor. We can’t always expect him to act like a Rocky in real life.
Why the hell did she even have to express that, I guess you are not supporting Deepika in this context.
@@vimarshaka4691she is actually supporting deep
You are in a relationship it's a bond itself wtf you need marrige to be loyal to each other and you don't want to be a option to your partner it is insulting
If u aren't married, I hope in love marriage ur husband/wife Post Engagement and Pre Marriage don't explore other women/men in the name of 'situationship".
Ranveer face was disappointed after hearing that in the show. So are the reactions from public as well.
Irony is that in 2014 Deepika herself in an interview said she don't believe in dating multiple people etc.
Deepika is a bigggg 🚩
Let it happen to you, you will understand 😂😂
This was actually the first time on the show they were talking about real stuff.. and not trolling other people. I was shocked to see all the backlash online.
Yeah all the whores want this to become a general norm
They were trolled for right thing though i condem slutshaming of her but she is toxic the way she talks about him
There was absolutely nothing wrong in the episode. Making memes and saying Ranveer was hurt or offended through one screengrab from an hour long episode is laughable. and also whats disgusting is that this has become an opportunity for people to slutshame Deepika despite it being made very clear that they were both MUTUALLY in a casual relationship. let alone the fact that this was years ago and now they're a happily married couple.
EXACTLY...your comment should be the one pinned!
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Exactly!! They weren't in a long term committed relationship, and neither were they married. I don't understand why people are comparing her to Jada Smith, who had an 'entanglement' as a married woman.
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Oh my god finally someone that is talking sensibly like it is a talk show an hour of entertainment is all the importance it deserves have a laugh and move on!!
See, this is why SRK didn't want to give any interviews before Pathan and Jawan release. Its like one mis step and everything he worked hard for goes down the drain. Even if this episode of KWK had aired before the release of the films, I feel it would have made atleast a small dent on the hype surrounding the movies and ppl would have thought of watching them on ott rather than theatre
South actors 😂
I love to see srk & priyanka together in the show 😂😁
Ranveer might slap someone at next year’s Flimfare 👀 😂 🤣
Goated comment 😂
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Prolly Maneesh Paul or Kapil Sharma 😜
But show live nahi aati na
I mean even in arranged marriage setups people do talk with few selected suitors to know the likings/dislikings and more about that person before committing to the final one then why this one is getting portrayed as red flag nd all.. Also, coming out of depression and anxiety and then being open and vocal about it and more importantly trusting 1 person is way tough than one can imagine (few can who have been in similar situations).. No one is taking about how mental health was discussed in this episode, how Ranveer created safe space for her to feel comfortable and how even Karan spoke about him battling it alone and seeking the much needed help after crying heart out. I mean it still takes guts to own and speak about it when majority has a thinking that oh these people are rich then how can they suffer from depression which is so wrong in so many ways.. I hope to see more people being open and out about their feelings and emotions.. It was a good episode..
Deepika did say "we were meeting other people" and Ranvir didn't dispute this. So why the hate only for deepika?
people reading too much into Ranveers 'expressions' and how he reacted when Deepika says I don't remember who I dated
Ranveer was cold when she said that lol...he didn't want her to say that but it's true so yeah
That awkward reaction of him was because he didn't want he to say that obviously while narrating the fairy tale..dp came as more real about it ...which basically triggered rs as she mention " we were both seeing another ppl " maybe he didn't Want her to include him as it effects his image so he goes later to say there were 3 suitors to exclude himself from that open relationship which is so clever !
@rainbow6571 yeah, not something a husband wants to be reminded publicly.
@@AnSid86 lol she was being honest while he drowning in lies...she had to say something true after all the lies he said...it's actually called being spineless or a coward when u don't admit doing these things just to sound nice and leave it all on ur wife...
Don't worry about him..because all he cares about is his image and we know that no one is trolling himself for the casual dating...only her ! Slutshaming and disgusting memes are only saved for women
My biggest takeaway from this episode remains that it was refreshing that there were more vulnerable moments of three people who feel free to confide in each other. The mental health confession of both Deepika and KJo were heartfelt but equally impressed about Ranveer take about what's a partner role in being the support system. That whole "open relationship" from where their relationship STARTED is ridiculous. The sl**-shaming is ridiculous when as you said, it's something both parties knew about. The Will Smith parallel is absurd. The fact that people don't even agree with a mature statement that "marriage is work everyday to make it last" is demonstrative hoe people live in fantasyland that love starts rosy and remains rosy without any hiccups. From what it seems, regardless of PR, is that both Ranveer and Deepika seem to be in a very happy, secure and safe space with each other, it's so pointless evaluating about how the story started. imo.
Spot on. 👌
Exactly. People just catch a line & split it to nano bits just to build details wtout anything truly being obvious/ evident or there being any real proof
Yeah Ranveer sound really happy 😂
Oh I didn't knw that love starts with open relationships where its only ok if U r sleeping arnd with multiple partners while having one person as a back up plan..remb ranveer never said that he was also exploring other options nd sleeping arnd...also remb wht a huge deal deepika made out when ranbir started seeing katrina while being with her nd labelled it as being" cheated upon".. while she she doing the same with ranveer that too after saying that she doesn't do frivolous relationships, she is contradicting her statements nd her behavior way too much times here...thats all jst messed up,
@@ixa.m9915RANVEER LITERALLY SAID HE ALSO SEEING OTHER PPL LMAOOO
I feel deepika did a bad job explaining the seeing other people part. She probably meant she went on a few dates initially without committing to a relationship and then after certain time became serious with Ranveer
First pehle apni casual dating or current husband then option share krna literally gadhapan tha on a public platform
It's crazy she shared this without considering ki uske husband ki kya dhachiya udegi badme
dude she did explain it, she said that they werent serious and were technically allowed to talk to other people, people are literally cutting off that part lmao
She said what was there just browse through the internet there was a small report which said that Farhan missed call her some 87 times a report which was promptly send out of circulation..(obviously those calls weren't for don 3) Shahid Kapoor could have been one of those guys since there were reports of his awkward equation with Bhavnani ..what Deepika has defined as 'FUN' In her conversation is that same hush hush word starting with S which 90 percent of Indian like to brush under their carpets 😅
And this characterless woman preaches to us.
@@stevewhite6241are you so judgemental dudeee... this speaks so much about your character rather than her's
Karan literally said : "dp u were out of a breakup and single for a while and ranveer you were IN a long term relationship"..yet the social media decided to Target the woman for saying she didn't want to commit and they never decided on exclusivity in the beginning... While sympathising on the guy who chose to move on from one girl to another.
If this isn't double standards I don't know what is. I also noticed that dp actually wanted to keep shut as long as she could, somehow she started to speak honestly about how their relationship started n boom.
It is coz she used to portray herself as a pious woman who was wronged by Ranbir and she played the victim while constantly targetting Katrina and Alia through her PR ...now that her lies are exposed, people are calling her out...its not double standard...its called Karma...
@@ravied2946thats the reason she said “after a couple of DIFFICULT BREAKUPS” she dicided to be single a date around what are the lies about that👀👀
@@ravied2946exactly
@@gladys829 She said in the KWK episode with Priyanka that she doesnt believe in casual relationships...either she is in it fully or not...she doesnt believe in the concept o casual dating...so was she lying then or now??
@@ravied2946 pretty sure opinions change over time.
The expression Ranveer showcased is perfectly normal. No one springs with joy when your partner talks about their exes. What Deepika did before settling with Ranveer is what almost everyone does at least in metro cities and is very common and normalised. And then to the point where Ranveer sounded irritated, it was normal too! He wasn’t really angry, it’s called having banter and it was nothing more than a friendly squabble. I know soo many people who do the same with their partners and it’s just friendly and having fun. You can’t always be I love you I love you all the time! There’s just so much stupidity floating in memes on social media it’s hilarious. Then again, I’m only reacting to what was portrayed by the couple and not what they are or are not in their real life. It was a beautiful episode filled with vulnerability and finally Karan who has more than definitely matured so well.
Take a chill pill with this!
Absolutely!
Yeah it was more real than all sweet lovey dovey. And people misunderstood them as a fight maybe.
Yes, finally found someone mature enough to understand this... I absolutely agree with you
Was looking for someone to say this!! I thought I was the only one who felt it was just banter between the two of them! Thoroughly enjoyed the episode!
Watcn the episode of KWK where Deepika came with Priyanka and said idk how to casual date, idk how can people be with someone and not commit and now she comes and says the opposite citing trust issues and depression. Major Hypocrisy alert!!!
Just adding my thoughts here. As Deepika said, she had just come out of a long term relationship- a relationship which she thought was 'The one' (she even had a tattoo of his name), only to get cheated on. So naturally she will be wary of any relations. So it makes sense that she wanted a casual relation. She didn't give her 100% till he proposed bcoz she didn't want to repeat the same mistakes. Also if it was a mutual decision, who are we to judge??
Justifying infidelity, seriously..?🤦😂
@@PureRythm there is no infidelity. Both of them agreed to an open relationship. At least thats what she said.
I totally agree with you. People don't realize how getting cheated on fucks up betrayed's mind and how insecure they become to new relationships. But, the only valid concern regarding Deepika's non-exclusive mutual relation with ranveer is did the 'other partners' whom she and him dated know that their dates are keeping their options open??
@@supdude6968 thats something we dont knw abt. So why pass judgement abt something we don't knw??
@Athi102 ya agreed. But controversies like these are needed to break barriers. They make people talk. They argue. They bring points and counter points to back their arguments. Meanwhile, people who are listening to both sides learn something useful.
I personally really liked this episode. Everyone was quite vulnerable about important things. And while ranveer and deepika may have whatever relationship they do, they actually raked about some very important actions required in a good relationship - intent, patience, care giving, support pillar, honesty. But most importantly, whatever happens between a couple with each other's consent is their business.
This is a PR disaster !! Imagine the brand value lost and people losing jobs because someone had to approve this episode 😂😂
@@rajattyagi8963they curated a picture perfect couple image through their PR agencies one small slip and they'll obviously get backlash and trolling
@@rajattyagi8963India is still not so open minded to know about their star’s hoe phases which is good for our society. We should always look down upon these kind of people and not promote these kind of mentality.
@@rajattyagi8963how come... casual dating is okk..agreed...but why keep ranveer as a backup...how can she say... while seeing other guys...in the back of my head I was committed to ranveer...just reverse the gender then that guy is the biggest red flag... when a girl does this it's her choice..but when a guy does it...he is toxic...do u even know the meaning of misogyny 😂
@@rajattyagi8963if not a backup then who was ranveer before the proposal... "while seeing other guys I was committed to him" explain that...ok they were allowed to see other guys while dating each other...fair enough.. their choice...but why was ranveer mad about this during interview...if it was a mutual decision..see I don't give a f** about this celebrities...all these replies is 4 u r dumb** comment calling the previous person commented as a mysogynist... hypocrisy at it's peak
@@rajattyagi8963 That’s called keeping a guy on the hook. She already knew that for Ranveer it’s a lot clearer and that he’s not going anywhere. So the whole open relationship just gave her the option to look around without any accountability knowing she has him on the hook. And she is done with the fun she can go back to the doormat she has created! 😂😂
5:28 I remember an iconic moment from Katrina Kaif where she said that anything said on the show is considered the gospel truth and the analysis that takes place.
Honestly, I found the episode very entertaining and honest and couldn't care less about the drama sorrounding it. But , I understand how hurt one could be when their partner openly insults them and it was very evident from ranveer's face that he was hurt and disappointed.
She literally didn't considered kya dhachiya udegi badme uske husband ki when she shared wo situation mai ranveer was a option for her
Imagine doing this to your partner on a national public platform
Because it happened to a man. I was not committed till he proposed sunne me causal lagega lekin yehi cheez ek ladka bole ki aaree meri biwi toh kaha jane wale thi yehi to thi meri backup plan...toh bas me 4-5 ladki ko side me s3x kar raha tha...baki aur kuch khas pasand aayi nahi...toh isi k pass wapas aana pada..that is what this all is...language badalane se reality tone down nahi ho jati.
Who tf cares
If he was insulted he wouldn't repeat her words and call her my love I knew I would be the one...right after she said that ! He was just worried because she was saying this on the show 😂
@@rainbow6571 if you would be in his position would be start crying or start showing your anger ??
Bro don't be so dumb, he doesn't wanted to show how insulted he's feeling
7:40 onwards... I appreciate Jamy for standing for the unfair slur-shamming subjugation Deepika is going through. Perfect assessment of something blowing out of proportion.
I love your level-headed approach to everything, whether it be reviews or anything else regarding the film and TV industry. It's refreshing after seeing a couple other dudes (and women too, in their comments) tripping over themselves to call her a toxic red flag and that she was only keeping Ranveer as a backup.
When I watched my first video regarding this situation, I thought the outrage was because Ranveer didn't seem comfortable (and I'd even say he looked angry/disappointed/hurt) that Deepika spilled something private about their dating phase to the public; i.e. people were of the opinion she should've not talked about it because it didn't seem Ranveer was okay with talking about it, which meant she disrespected Ranveer as her partner. I didn't think the outrage was that they were in an open relationship.
But the whole slutshaming is because of her saying she wasn't committing and was casually dating
@@rainbow6571yes casual dating is a THING even in India 😊. Welcome to age of hook-ups
Same here saw a review by Shan prasher. I was surprised that he and the people in comments don't know about casual dating as a thing in this timeline. I mean I know even my friends have done that until they became "exclusive". People don't put all their eggs in one basket. I don't understand why hypocritical so called moral Indians 😂 shame people who do when they can look around and perhaps their own people are doing that.
Our country is full of prudes who don't have actual morals.
Not to mention the guys were acting as if Deepika cheated on them😂😂. Like no need to show off your misogyny in public. We Indian men are famous for that😂😂😂
The people were angry she was casually dating. They compared her with their own class of people 😅. Which is dum because they are not living like a small town people.
@@randomlyswatching9481 ik ! It's not even about a hookup ...casual dating is about meetings actually! All these trolls are making it sound like she banged every guy she saw ! 😑
Guys for these guys ...dating is sex and it's just disgusting that they are exposing their toxic thoughts on sm like that ! Wonder how girls in their real life will react 🤢
Ranveer face in the episode during that moment was exactly like Will Smith in that interview ...I hope he doesn't slap someone in any of the Awards😅
Another huge Graham Norton show fan here! Graham's team does it the best, bringing out the funniest stories about the celebs
Graham and Conan the only good celeb talk show tbh feels natural and not cringe.
I love graham and all his episodes
He truly knows the celebrities he brings and he makes them comfortable
and Craig @@tejbirsandhu1180
It's genuinely upsetting how this has been blown out of proportion. A couple were in a sort of open relationship before they were fully committed. It's possible that, initially, Ranveer was more sure about the relationship than Deepika was (which perhaps explains Ranveer's reaction) until she too was finally convinced. What's wrong with that? The problem, as you point out, is more with our fan projections on these stars than with the stars themselves. The way Deepika is being slut-shamed now on social media says more about us than about them.
The fact that, at times, their reactions seemed awkward has also to do with the immense pressure of coming to this show and constantly being afraid about what might blow up on social media. Every relationship has its good, bad, and ugly, and we should first learn to acknowledge this instead of projecting our idealized romantic fantasies onto the personal lives of our stars.
*Okay, end of hot-take*
Agree I also didn't find any weird in her answer
We should always look down on “open relationships”. This is how society and families are broken. Just look at America. It’s right that people are frowning on her statement as we’re still a conservative culture.
Bro first her sharing her options and casual dating life on a public platform without considering ki uske husband ki kya dhachiya udegi badme is CRAZY
Thats not the point why ppl are pissed. Being in consensual open relationshops is fine..but deepika has been a hypocrite here. In her own words she said she and ranveer started dating in 2012 and initially it was an open relationship bcoz she didnt want to be committed....but in a 2013 kwk interview she tried to be this moralist woman saying "i dont understand this in between phase of dating but not committing, i dont understand the concept of frivolous relationships, casual dating etc"
So how can u say all this nonsense in 2013 that u dont understand casual dating etc when u urself have started casual dating in 2012, and while giving this 2013 interview where u denied being interested in casual dating, u were actually doing that!!! Thats like lying to another extent.
@@ananditachauhan5285exactly
With Ranbir Kapoor I think if we reverse the role and he would have said
1. Alia doesnt like blue colour on me, so I have changed my wardrobe
2. I used to scream while having agreements which Alia doesnt like so I am trying to change myself
Ranbir would be the biggest biggest green flag ever !
THIS!
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Nope. Alia would be called too controlling and dominating in the relationship. In the circle of men, Ranbir would be dismissed as "Joru ka Gulam", "pu$$y-whipped" and whatever slurs there are.
People having an opinion is not the issue. It is how they are expressing it. Slut shaming her, calling her the red flag, feeling bad about ranveer, isn't the way to go about it. I mean they both were seeing other people and casually dating. The fact that they are still together after 11 years proves that they are committed.
They do the same with ranbir and no one has a problem with it, its only a problem when its a woman
Kaha the yehi equality ke pujari jab Ranbir ko ye sab bola jata tha/hai. Tab toh koi nahi Bolta ki choice hai...🤦😂
Hum ladke hi ch**iya hote hai, sab kuch sun ke le lete hai.
@@Asine Exactly when it's a man's fault women victimize women and blame the hell out of a man,NO ISSUES,but when a women is at fault woman say oh toxicity has no gender,anyone can be wrong,I don't support her, The rage is VERY different,as if ranbir said the same thing you will burn him with the hate you have for him or just for man in general who are not according to your rules and standards
Yeah I'm not sure how everyone missed the 11 years of commitment after they actively chose each other. Pfft.
glad you can see the truth@@yatharthmittal6286
This episode was far better than the whole previous season..Most of the episodes are cringe watch in Season 7.. Specially That Sara-Janvi episode..Karan was mean to Sara, Calling Janvi S** Symbol, they are calling Vijay Cheeze and discussing dating lifes, indirectly mentioning Kartik Aryaan was more cringe... Atleast in this episode there was A good discussion about Depression and their own personal lifes not others😅
This video was much needed. There is a difference between what a celebrity should promote through sponsorship and what his or her personal choices are. It's only fair to condemn an actor if he promotes paan masala but it's extremely unethical and hypocritical of us to expect them to be perfect in their personal lives.
Hmm it's fair to criticize them for promoting paan masala because????
Because paan masala ain't good for the people in general and the youth, kids who idolize them follow them blindly
Same goes for promiscuity. If celebs with huge fan following among teens and youth start promoting casual datings, open marriages and stuff( when they are one of the leading cause of depression) in the society.. i believe they should be slammed too... Both Pann Masala and Promiscuity is unhealthy for any society with long term consequences.
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And people who are criticizing her for her actions have the freedom of expression.. they do get huge fan following for their beauty, dressing sense and stuff right..
She gets highly paid for participating in Public protests.. she knows the value of HER STAND. She is smart enough.
when you are a public figure.. you attract both fame and criticism... Anything you say or do as a public figure shall attract Opinions of public. Maybe thats why Anushka Sharma avoids such things. She barely reveals anything worth gossip about her relationship. That's maturity which Deepika lacks.
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That's pretty obvious.
@@aspirant5410 Again who cares what they do in their life. They are immoral and flawed human beings. Wasting one's time on how much they (celebs) should maintain themselves in public eyes is going to make one crazy.
I completely agree with what you're saying. However, what I find hypocritical that no such benefit of doubt was given to Ranbir Kapoor when he simply told his wife to remove a lipstick. He was destroyed on SM. I'm a woman but I find it extremely off that Deepika Padukone gets a free pass for everything but Ranbir Kapoor doesn't.
Well said
I watched the episode after seeing numerous videos on my feed about Toxic Deepika. And I am amazed that this is even an issue. My understanding is that at the time, she was clear that she did not want to get into a serious relationship. How is someone toxic if they are upfront about their preference and the other person is accepting of it? That is very different from sneaking off with someone while being in a committed relationship.
You'll understand as you grow older... 😊
@@lakmichinto5086 Perhaps u mean as u grow more immature
I love this word called, Sonder. It means each random passerby (including these celebs) is living a life as complex and vivid as our own. Just makes me more empathetic towards humans in general.
What a beautiful comment 😊
The significant outrage revolves around a relatability factor: most men felt it when Ranveer got awkward, and Deepika said to be window shopping while, in reality, she was with him in her mind. It's No guy wants to hear this, and it felt personal to many. Now, they have the means to share that frustration by criticizing Deepika...
and it will go on because "CONTENT"!!
Everybody criticises Ranbir for his relationships especially with Katrina and Deepika just because they are well known in the media. Yet we all know that Katrina cheated on Salman with Ranbir and some might not know that DP also cheated on her Bf Nihar Pandya with Ranbir, which Pandya himself confessed. It is a shame that Katrina and DP gets away with being the “Good Girls” while Ranbir gets bashed by their fans 24/7. The guy dint even bitch about any single one of his exes like they do. Ranbir might have been promiscuous before but not more than Deepika as she herself confessed many times she had a phase of “relationships” after Ranbir. She even justifies her “hoe phase” by playing the “depression card”. I really hate her fans who try to defend her while bash Ranbir for anything he does even after he’s happily married.
Spot on. This should be the top comment
This comment. Absolutely loved it. Katrina, Priyanka, Deepika all these leading ladies stepped on many guys to reach where they are today. All the time people say Vicky is lucky to land a girl like katrina it's obviously the other way around. Katrina even after betraying many landed a guy like Vicky. Same goes with DP. Ranveer is an extrovert can be weird but has never done something to hurt anyone.
Exactly
looks like u know them all personally 🤣🤣🤣🤣
BROOOO YOU HAVE JUST SAID WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, ITS CRAZYYY WE BASICALLY HAVE THE EXACT SAME OPINION. FINALLY A SMART PERSON.
You're 100% right about the hypocrisy we humans show while talking about such matters. Like our brain goes"ha thik hai itna kya ho gaya" And wanting more at the same time which is really funny and concerning at the same time. Sometimes it's just alarming how much f we give about our favs being perfect and not thinking that every human is flawed. The concept of clinical depression would never be taken seriously by us humans, but drama, my god drama we want. 😂😂
I don’t see anything scandalous about their initial getting together. They were both allowed to see other people. Deepika said that she had already chosen Ranveer in her heart. And when he later proposed they chose each other and have been together ever since. It is so clear that these two love each other. They are cool, hardworking people. And they look great together, which is important in their line of work. Besides, we don’t know anything else about their personal life.
Also, which BW couple doesn’t have any previous dating history? Ranbir had a very public break up with Katrina and then married Alia. Alia broke up with Siddharth, who then married Kiara. Katrina married Vicky after dating Salman, Ranbir. The point is, no one’s relationship history was perfect. Why this much negativity for Deepika’s mental health journey, her dating history and what not? Let her be. She and Ranveer were a bit awkward in the interview. That’s all. But none of what they said is out of place.
So if she had already chosen Ranveer in her heart, why see other people??? just for physical??? coz mentally, as you said, she is committed to Ranveer...
And even if lets say its just for physical she went out with others...the last time in KWK when she came with Priyanka...in that episode she said she doesnt believe in the concept of just dating without any connect...so what was she trying to portray?? was she slut shaming others who were casually dating then???
The whole point which people are raging over is this mentality of choosing a relationship of convenience where one person is being made to wait while the other completes his or her window shopping options and then returns to the original one it's a scenario which was presented in biwi no 1 as well where Salman had the freedom to go and commit in indulgences and Karishma Waited..
@@rahultiwari-dx8qo He was not "made to wait". They were both MUTUALLY in a casual relationship. And that too, only at the beginning.
She was mentally commited to him but still was hoeing around, and she continiued to see people UNTIL HE PROPOSED so thats far beyond the talk stage and initial get together.
@@ravied2946 she dated other people to see if she had a connection. And she already chose Ranveer after going out with a few men and then realising that he was her choice. Seriously you are so illogical.
I was swooning after that episode until I heard everyone's opinion. Keep in mind the dating incident happened years ago and at least he knew about them. Is she toxic for having options? Is Lata Mehra from A Suitable Boy toxic? She had 3 suitors.
Hi. Not bashing Deepika. But I could conclude the only reason why some had issues with Deepika's statements and why maybe they're accusing her as a red flag maybe due to the fact that one hand you're praising your now husband to be your strongest support system, but he was never your first choice and that you're publicly claiming after five years of marriage? Also the reason many men are specifically having issues with this just a few days back Ranbir Kapoor was slammed left, right and center for his past life and how he apparently treats his wife. But some people are forgetting that Deepika too had a colourful dating life back then. So again, if Alia and Ranveer don't have any problems with their spouses then who are we to comment on it. But then don't praise someone and call them empowering and powerful when a few days back you were bashing someone else for their chemistry with their spouse. Lastly personally I felt bad for Ranveer at a point specifically because he looked genuinely upset. To ya. That's all. Thanks for reading it.
@@sabatasmia8789 Okay I won't comment on Ranbir because I don't particularly like him so what I do is if I don't have anything good to say I shut up. He is a great actor though. She had depression in 2014 and she said the first 6 months of the relationship she had other suitors meaning 2012/2013. Let's get the timeline straight. She didn't know he was the one at the same time he did but she eventually realized it. She thought she had the one before and the one found another one... so please crucify the girl for being cautious. Dating is trial and error. If people think it's toxic please do like Shahid and get it arranged. Watch How the brain falls in love by Dawn Maslar. You will see this from a different POV.
@@sabatasmia8789 she wasn't ranveers first choice either. He was actually not even single if we go by what was said in the episode. And if u watch her entire answer from the episode she articulated pretty well that they were both not committed n were technically allowed to see others.. so how is ranveer suddenly the victim now? After copy pasting the same story for anuska and Deepika? Besides gender bias, i notice a typical bias that works in favor of extrovert versus introvert. The one who talks and expresses too much in public is perceived as the honest loving one, and the one who is introvert and guarded must always be the cold culprit. Guess same thing happened for rambir as well.
(Nothing against Rambir, but please check out neetu Kapoor's interview about her husband once. Flexing about how many flings n one night stands her husband has had throughout their marriage and she being aware of them..n here we are judging ppl of what they did in their early twenties, before marriage or engagement)
@@lungisileluu3458 look my irritation is more about the keyboard warriors then her. The double standard the people on Internet shows. I mean Ranbir or Deepika they both have a colourful past. That's fine that's their life. But don't bash one and call him a casinova and playboy and praise another in the name of women empowerment. They shouldn't say that Alia is with a living red flag and for Ranveer say he should be okay with her past. Also the Dhoni, Yuvraaj, Nihar Pandya scene happened way before 2012. But still it's fine. She was exploring her options. Again it's just the double standard of the people over the internet because one is a guy and the other is a woman with a smart PR. In short, ek ko hai hai aur ek ko waah waah ye to ghalat hai for things they did identical if not similar at least. Also talking about Ranveer and Alia, they too weren't any saints before they got married. Lastly, I liked the way you've put forward your point in a civilised manner.
@@sabatasmia8789 I hear you. I think people are just projecting their insecurities on these couples. Be it the modern feminist, or the men who feel betrayed by her. They are sometimes so set in their ways they can't think critically about things. Thanks for the stimulating conversation it was a delight.
Just goes to show how negative people only choose to hear what they want to hear just so they can point fingers at others. Even the lipstick thing with Alia and Ranbir, people calling him a red flag conviniently skipped the part when she said Ranbir doesn't like the lipstick because he likes the natural color of Alia's lips and started trolling him.
They hear what they want to hear so that they have a justification to bully and troll them
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It was mainly women who were trolling ranbir and now they are justifying deepika the hypocricy of women is beyond me.
@@shivamgusain5185 not all women do that but I do agree that the women who participate in these baseless trollings are capable of saying a lot of stupid shit.
@@rinidmoron I didn't said all woman I said majority of the trollers were women.
I feel like somewhere trying to be genuine and "real " they just messed up. And also just portraying Karan Johar is some kind of evil mastermind is not totally fine. People need to think and take responsibility for their actions and words they have taken or spoken out.
Karan isn't at fault this time at least
He simply asked normal questions
N the answers are what caused the outrage
Why he is getting bash this time I'm not getting the point unfortunately 😅
@@sudiptachakraborty6183 Because people know that even his simple question can be nosy. He loves to stir the pot for his content!! 😁😁
Tbh this is how celebrities' lives are. They have multiple casual flings with their co-stars and all and they're all okay with it. It's the dark reality of the entertainment industry that no matter how much you try to neglect will always remain true
Whatever they do is fine. That's their personal life. But then they shouldn't come up as morality advocates and try to preach to the world about relationships. Neither should they try to justify debauchery and force people to make it a new normality.
Sant nahi ho toh gyaan bhi mat do. Simple as that.
Also, she is a big-time hypocrite. Victimizing herself as a person who is in depression after the breakup so that Ranbir can be looked at as a bad person in the situation, Acting all perfect relationship material in the previous season and now trying to justify her promiscuity.
Her PR team are working overtime to save her "Rani Sa" image.
Not only celebs, it has become very common with ordinary people too... men, women, girls and boys are into casual flings, can't blame..one has ro decide what life one has ro lead.
@@vishalkhalani6726I get where you’re coming from…however, Ranbir can still be called out for a cheater while Deepika can also be called out for the situationship she put Ranveer in. Humans are flawed and they aren’t black and white. Deepika doesn’t have to be perfect for anyone to feel bad for her for being cheated on by Ranbir, and Ranbir also doesn’t have to be prefect for the masses to slaughter him for his cheating. People are using this episode to say “we owe Ranbir an apology” an apology for what? He still cheated, and isn’t any better of a human. People look at everything with a black and white lense, it’s ridiculous.
There is nothind 'dark' about people acting witj consent. Dark should only be used when things happen without someones consent
Hollywood actors are just like western people
Damn that season 8 first episodes itself created so much buzz around internet. I'm excited on what are the next guests in line 💀
Hi Jammy...thank you so much for giving such a nuanced take on this topic. ❤
According to me, neither Deepika nor Ranveer said anything untoward in that episode. I have watched the whole of it and carefully so, as I am a fan of KWK (barring some episodes) and this episode was quite refreshing and "genuinely" emotional (at least it seemed so to me, can't speak for others)
Also, coming to the entire conversation which started all the influx of trolls towards the couple...I think Deepika (correct me if I am wrong) clearly said that at that time she n Ranveer had met each other and just started liking each other. But they didn't instantly start dating! So when they weren't dating, Deepika still had a soft-corner for Ranveer and liked him but were meeting (or seeing) others as though she clearly had a liking towards him and knew about it "at the back of her mind" but wasn't really sure of it. She said that she used to find herself coming back to Ranveer and felt committed to him "mentally", which means she realised who her heart beats for and both eventually start dating (at least this is what I understood). Hence, I feel she was not infidel to Ranveer because she and him clearly didn't start dating when she was "meeting" other people.
Coming back to Ranveer's reaction...I think he just reacted the way he reacts and he wasn't upset or anything. He is a bit quirky in his expressions, at times which is actually fun to watch as an audience. When he used the word "suitors", Deepika and Karan just asked who were they and I think Deepika just didn't want to reveal any names so she was trying to diffuse the situation and Ranveer also understood it clearly (he is more loving and understanding towards Deepika than all of us combined)
And it was their past...so let us please keep it in their past.
Also, it seems like Ranveer and Deepika know in and out about one another's dating history and still love each other and are sticking together. Then, why are the trollers getting so offended is beyond me 🙈
(P.s.: This is not me defending or offending anyone. Just an observation. Especially because I was utterly shocked to see such an uproar towards an episode which I personally found was one of the warmest KWK episodes)
Haye thank you for this sane comment!
@@noorulfalah6510 🤗
Tbh it's pretty common to date around until you find the one. As long as both parties are aware of it, it's all good. Also, a lot of time clinical depression is expressed in a constant cycle of seeking connection with people. Sometimes that means a lot of casual relationships. I'm not saying it's a good or bad thing but it is what's real.
I always wonder that how there are so many topics to discuss with celebrities that can help outsiders in gaining information about various aspects of film industry , or they can recall some nostalgic memories about bts scenes of their particular movies ,etc . Then even karan Johar chooses to be a typical Asian aunt who loves gossiping about personal matters only .
Why you don't want to see the reality of your role models? Come out of your delusion & aunt shaming mentality.
I think one thing not discussed is the hypocrisy of Deepika, where her stories make no sense. She had said she is not into casual relations in the time frame as she is now describing her casual relations. This means that the "mature" persona she had built was a total lie. She had complained about Ranbir Kapoor but it turns out she is the same as him.
RK was criticised for having a lot of relationships, she’s also had a lot. She dated Dhoni,Yuvraj, Nihar Pandya, Siddharth Mallya. She managed to play the victim card very well
RK was criticized about cheating in his relationships. Here ppl don’t care that she didn’t cheat but instead care that she has dated many ppl lol that’s a fair assessment of character
DP is a full blown narcissist.
Exactly. Dipika is a hypocrite
Correct ! I think its the hypocrisy that s ticked people off more than any morality issues.
Ranbir did wrong. For which He has facing a big loss of reputation till now!!! But Deepika did the same with Yuvi!!!!! But Everytime she put blame on others!!!! She has a very good PR team!!! Now people are seeing her real face!! Though her PR team will convert these hate into postive narration in no time.. Blv me😊😊
This is just ridiculous, she never cheated on RS nor she said she is sleeping around. She was meeting other guys and the thing didnt clicked as much as she did with RS. How is that different, then meeting guys via arranged marriage setups to find the right guy...via family. You still go out and chat with that prospect. Also RS was also seeing other woman..Zhe said IF we were allowed to see others ppl,she didnt want to. Yes, she contradicted her statement from kwk earlier season
Bollywood actor's foreign logo k jese behave karte h isliye log south actor's ko zyda praise karte h 😂
In our society, promiscuity is something which is not acceptable with women. We have the most vile hatred for prostitutes but not for the ones who traffick those women n children and are the driving consumers of it all. Well, infidelity and monogamy is a grey topic and everyone has very strong opinions about it (specially the unmarried ones). High time people realise that celebrities have 'PR' images and they are not like their portrayal onscreen. Even if they are in open marriage, Deepika is weirdly obsessed with a particular ex, she should tone that down in public interactions, those Tamasha promotions were weird. Ranveer is no saint either, we all have seen the AIB roast and still the gossip market is buzz with his escapades. Noone is a victim in their marriage.
Who said that they rim an open marriage ? I hope we all watched the same episode..she just talked about how they got together more than a decade ago long before they were married or even engaged
@@sanjana3218 actor's to movies m romance chuma chati sab karte h bhale hi usko tum acting ka naam de do
Infidelity is not a grey topic. It's fucked up shit a partner can do their partner. It's an abuse.
We're supposed to have a vile hatred for men who visit prostitutes and those who pimp them, but no everyone centres in on the prostitutes!
@@moniakthar1963it's their circumstances dude, plz chill 😂😂
While calling actors like ranbir salman playboys (which is true😂) people often forget that actresses they dated have also been playgirls . Hook up and flings are common in entertainment industry.
Playbudha 😂
It would be interesting to see how RS will talk about DP on next award show! I don't think she said anything bad, one goes on many dates so end up with a person you want to spend the rest of your life with. All the best to them.
This controversy is so blown out of proportion. Who are we to judge them about their personal relationships when they themselves do not have a problem? Unnecessary slut shaming Deepika is just entertainment for people when all she said was that they were in a casual & open relationship in the initial stages when they were not really committed to each other. Isn't that how a lot of modern dating works?
Good.
May I know your thoughts on Ranbir Kapoor...??🙂
Exactly, this is such a stupid controversy. I'm not one to cry misogyny over every little thing, but it's so blatant here. They weren't committed then, so both were free to date casually, but then they made things official, and they've been together for years and seem happy. Why people are choosing to create drama is beyond me.
@@BlackFiresong in 2014 she said for the same time period she was looking for commitment and now she is saying there was no commitment as such,THE ABSOLUTE WORST IS people are saying people change with time you stupid morons It is for the same time period
@@BlackFiresong People are trolling because there was no need to bring something like this up this is ABSOLUTE demeaning of her to say this,i am 1000% if a male actor said this the outrage will be hell lot of different
@@yatharthmittal6286 Bhai, inko bas female card khelna aata hai, aur kuch nahi...🤦😂
Bro Graham Norton show parallel is wild. That show is so fun and has stories that are told to make fun of the actor(as it's British comedy) but they never go into these scandalous conversations rather they try to make the actor more likeable at the end of the show. Ryan Gosling and Andrew Garfield are some of my favorite guests.
Finally someone who's speaking sense. Was tired of people being illogical and shaming her just for the sake of content.
But she shouldn't have criticised ranbir kapoor for being disloyal when she herself is into open relationship. Ranbir kapoor was unfairly bashed and trolled for many years.
Dipika should be trolled and bashed for being a hypocrite
@@endisnear306 I understand your point. But again, it's people on the internet who make a big deal out of celebrities relationships. Deepika ne kuch bola, Alia ne lipstick ka kuch bola, everyone on the internet starts with memes and trolls. That's the same happening here. That was wrong, this is wrong too. Apne ko kya hi karna hai inke relationships se😂 but logo ko bohot chul hoti hai. It's all fun till they start using vulgar words and slut shame someone
@@Harsh_0812 I have never cared about silly comments made by actors but but it's not right for dipika to call out RK's infidelity when they were just casually dating. RK was trolled a lot by the audience. Even katrina wasn't spared. If dipika is getting karma then so be it
Kudos to Jammy for a full length video with his face! Man's built up his confidence! Been a fan since 2017 and I'm so happy to see his growth
I personally believe it is our fault to assume that any relationship can be perfect. It’s not about being perfect, it’s all about keeping a healthy dynamic…
I have no problem with one's relationships, physical or mental ( in dp's language) but the problem lies in the fact that padukone in these many years have always tried to portray herself as someone who only believes in being with one person at a time, Hypocrisy is what irks me.
I agree!! That's the only problem here
how is she a hypocrite when she literally is with only person at this time? She literally said they weren't committed to each other and were seeing other people. Do people have brains when they talk shit or do they lose it every time they see a woman say something they don't like?
The way ranveer staring at dp in entire episode was just hilarious 🤭🧿
Becoz he has to maintain his best husband image na
morality is not an ethical tool, its a function that runs on fear.
the more you make money, the less you fear, the less you fear, less is the motivation to be moral.
never ever expect a rich person to abide by moralities of a poor person.
I believe morality is a conscious choice, irrespective of the riches one own or not.
It is not that simple, you state it like it's some kind of universal formula
@@novkalp21185 but the definition changes accordingly.
Ameer logon ko Footpath pe gaadi chadhane mein ghanta farak nahi padta, wahi koi EWS ka Banda ye karde. Zindagi jhand ho jayegi
@@PureRythm what I meant to say was, that choosing the path of morality is a conscious choice and has nothing to do with money. I agree with you about the consequences, rather a fear of consequences differs according to the socio-economic position in society. But we can agree that morally corrupt people are everywhere, rich or poor. But as you said, my definition of morality is what I would do in front of everyone or even in the absence of an audience, that's a choice, ingrained within, and not dictated by external forces such as rules or laws.
@@novkalp21185 exactly...!! Your first statement is what is needed in today's generation. Doesn't matter rich or poor, Morality should be a Compulsion rather than a Choice. But then again, every human thinks of it differently. Kaun Kya kar jaaye, koi nahi bol sakta.👍✌️
Jammy casually dropped a bollywood gossip glitz style video and still got away with it because of his good analysis style and English Rizz
It’s really unfortunate that we still continue to judge women and hold them to different standards. It’s okay for two people to have a different understanding of the situation and perhaps explore different relationships if there is nothing serious. With Deepika everyone knows from the past that when she has truly committed she has been a loyal partner. I don’t see male actors who have infact cheated go through this much scrutiny. I also was quite disappointed that people are just calling this one thing a red flag. An hour of edited episode doesn’t give one enough information to judge two people’s relationship. Also, the courage to talk in such depth about depression and acknowledging one’s partners effort and support should be the central conversation. Again, can’t believe just based of one comment about what happened 11 years ago people are judging a person who at that time was undergoing depression, was on medication and did what they could to survive.
Of all the important things discussed, is that what we want to take away from this!
You have not seen male actors targetted?? were you living under a rock when Deepika's PR shamelessly attacked Ranbir for his each and every sentence and expressions and called him manwhore and what not...
jis desh m 57 saal k bujurg actors ko bhai bola jata ho us desh ka cinema hmesa cringe hi rahega
Haven't you seen Ranbir Kapoor getting targeted?
Where were you when ranbir was being called a man whore by her pr
@@amalo.vergaming4605 Women are called sluts for ages. It's all just coming back now.
The thing I learned by this incident, now or later, you just can't expect society to be a sober listener and understand your truth...
It is just the matter of "You want to be crucified Now or later?"😅
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Same 😂😂😂😂 it is like waiting to slam you
Then they want us to like them and are left aghast when we don't
Atleast they are talking about themselves... Previous season was all about questions related to s** , body counts, How many people I have dated and too many unnecessary mentions of Kartik aryaan, Calling Vijay cheeze etc... Atleast they talked about an important issue like depression...
Honestly there wedding film felt so wholesome i wonder if the episode was edited any differently would it have been a PR boost for the couple!?
7:34 Man... If it was Ranveer who said that stuff... Everyone would've pelted stones at him. When it's Deepika, shit turns to sympathy?? This generation is screwed.
That’s so interesting that you saw it that way. I feel like she was dating around and didn’t really think she thought of those guys as actually “suitors” like potential long term. So that is why she was confused. I also think Ranveer Singh is hilarious and when he speaks in Hindi he becomes so relatable. I think people nowadays just overthink and over assume and cross those lines like you said!
I don't understand how come deepika getting cheated or left out is justified for her poor mental health but she seeing multiple persons and even accepting it after many years can not justify Ranveer Singh's reaction. She should have restrained from glorifying this publicly. Maybe ranveer was never comfortable with it.
I hate to judge celebrities but DP's body language for the last few years looks strange to me...I mean she doesn't give positive vibes anymore..on the other hand Anushka looks way postive and stronger now
Anushka is not close to karan johar gang unlike deepika ranveer. She's literally living her best life just had kids, turned spiritual, traveling the world with virat, producing best shows with outsiders.
A perfect example of this celebrity culture and the insights you'll get shock to know about is the boy's one of the best on prime video
She didn't mean to say that but it was KOFFEE WITH KARAN, so it was meant to come out
It’s not actually totally people reacting to it as something unethical, but it’s about how celebrities have projected themselves and their relationships to be an epitome that one can look upto. The recent incident being, that one clip from their wedding going viral where Ranveer is seen wiping off Deepika’s tear and actually eating it, with all the comments around being a biggest green flag ever, it’s maybe about people empathising with Ranveer who’s on the giving end and maybe in people’s eye is not getting reciprocated with what he deserves.
I don't understand why was Deepika giving talks about her "battle" with depression but at the same time turning to drugs to fight it or escape the realities of her love life struggles. It just doesn't add up. Devalues the REAL struggle that someone who is clinically depressed and has come out of it without falling for short term fixes like the bottle or drug. Her PR painted her like an icon of fighting her demons when it was indeed all a facade. That's problematic both at individual health level and from an ethical standpoint.
Very well said! The fact that she didn’t clear her name about drugs makes it look really suspicious.
The issue is not what they are doing with their personal lives.....they can do whatever they want....but its their influence on younger generation...there is a difference between normalizing a situation and blindly following a celebrity's lifestyle thinking "this is the way".
then it's the fault of the younger generation.
if they can't filter things that affect their lives they will not be able to make it in this tough world. kids these days are smart enough to distinguish the right from wrong and I'm pretty sure they have parents to help them out as well.
in no way is a celeb responsible for anything they said in a talk show. they're talking about their personal lives which you are consciously watching to get to know them more. they say something that you don't agree to and suddenly they are toxic. how immature are you!
Isn't it their parents duty to tell them what is right and what is wrong .
@@sssy910right
@@sssy910 Firstly the thing you said about today's kids are smart enough, I really hope this is true and it will be a boon for our upcoming generation...free of orthodox soceitial bondage...wouldn't that be great!!! Second thing a celeb is not responsible..ok I believe that...but Deepika Padokone is a mental Health Activist..is someone who has represented India in various great platforms...I admire her as a human being...that's what makes her "influencial"...she is not just an entertainer or someone with a camera in their hand and a tag of "influencer". And Talk show is still a public platform. And like I said they can do whatever they want in their personal life....but when they say the things that they say...I really think they meant it...because Deepika is not dumb...they purposefully added this part and didn't edited it out...because they think its the right way. I don't think so and I dont want my future kids to think as such. Matter ends!. Sorry if I offended you. I still admire Deepika....because c'mom she is DEEPIKA PADUKONE!!!!!
@@জীৱনএখনউপন্যাস it is, isn't it? but hamare india mein parents zyaada sex education ke upar discussion nhi krte...forget the topic of multiple partners....sex is something we all learn by ourselves...same goes for you as well I think...just guessing....so if in my teen years I hear something like this from someone I truly adore and admire....I won't go to my parents asking what they said is right or wrong...and netiher will the parents...akward ho jayega naa situation. Thats what I meant by my comment, By the way nice username...very philosophical.
Jammmyy!!! Waiting for your Kaalaa Paani review!! Can’t wait to listen to your analysis pls pls pls upload soon!
yes same please please please really want to listen to your deep dive on Kaala Paani
It is not the idea of open relationships people are strongly reacting to. Deepika has been pushing a PR image of sati savitri for years and has been shaming Ranbir Kapoor for cheating on her. She has gone on many shows saying she won't tolerate infidelity. Not even emotional infidelity. Then turns around and says she was seeing other people while dating Ranveer and being in an open relationship. It's the INCONSISTENCY and HYPOCRISY people are reacting to.
Infidelity is when the other person is not clear about where they stand in the relation and not informed if it's open or not
What she means is once you are committed..you are committed 100% and that's what eventually happened tin their relationship
@@ranibharadwaj6824 I agree with you, but again, that doesn't align with her brand either. She always portrayed herself as too traditional to be in an open relationship, whether or not the other person is informed. This interview was a 180 degree turn from what she has been saying and implying for years. Hence the backlash.
@@s.r301 true....but people portraying as if ranveer was cheated on was ludicrous as clearly he knew and was fine with it
@@ranibharadwaj6824 I also believe Ranveer was okay with her ways. But he probably didn't expect her to go on national television and brag about being in an open relationship, which must have been embarrassing for him and possibly not discussed prior to the interview. Hence the shock on his face. In the video, you can clearly see him attempting to put it in a diplomatic way by starting off to say "even though others were courting her, we were drawn to each other"(or something equally positive), when she interrupted him with "like who?" and then desperately following it up with "I don't remember". Then he had to actually say "I remember very clearly". It was super cringe and Deepika didn't come out looking innocent.
i totally agree with you on slut shaming and how fans wants see how celebrity should be like and they should meet fans definition of an ideal couple rather than see them as another human being with good ,bad and ,ugly and imposing our morals on them even if they are comfortable in whatever type of relationship they wants to have
and also not to spill personal conversation on a tv show IF your partner is not comfortable BUTTTTT
(⬇context: in 2013 on koffee with karan she said " i don't know how to casually date i don't know how to be in this in-between sort of dating but not committing" )
But the problem i have with lying about yourself which make me feels you are trying to paint picture which you are not and not being honest. this is where problem i have that atleast be honest if you don't wants public to know about something then don't talk about it rather than lie . Ranbir has been involved in many controversies for relationship but he atleast he was honest and knowledged his mistakes if he did
Finally dude, new intro music!
Thank you.
Salman , Abhishek , Aishwariya a combination that will be remebered for ages to come
This is why I stay away from today's fake Bollywood actors with their corrupt PR teams. I miss the genuinity of 80s/90s and older actors. Despite their wrongs and rights, they were very honest and real. These days, its just fakeness. Both are red flags in my opinion. Deepika, the bigger one
@@RAJUBHAI-ww7em muth material 😂
I can still not understand what was so wrong in her comments? They weren't in a committed relationship so it's normal if she was seeing other people. They didn't cheat with each other after committing. So what's the big deal? I mean everyone does it.
No..... everyone does not do it. Stop speaking for everyone.
Hamare yaha asa nahi hota...
@@wilsonwade6361 yes my friend. Majority of people do. Even the most sanskari families will go to homes of multiple women and 'test' them and then select a bride in arranged marriages. This is a reality.b
@@mr.goldenleavessource: trust me bro
Bro Sharing that on a public platform without considering ki uske husband ki kya dhachiya udegi badme is CRAZY
A lot of solid long-term monogamous relationships start casually with people seeing other people. Just because, as Indians, this is not as common in our culture doesn't mean it is is immoral, or cheating , or wrong.
Didi tum bhi chinal ho kya.
Open relationship & Cheating isnt same
@@safz15 But you folks practice polygamy na!!
@@safz15 itna hi farq h ki relationship mein keh ke lete hai. Or open relationship mein kehkar dusro ko dete h.
@@safz15 agar tumhari ideology bhi vaisi h to main milna chahunga tumse.
Props to SRK
He has been to KWK more than anyone
Yet, not even one controversy ❤❤❤
Wankhede stadium ka controversy bhul gya tu shayad.
@@NailsByAsh813Hello. The guy was referring to srk on the kwk show not the rest of srks personal and professional life.
@@alishaali6018 I know dat, but that doesn't mean he's free from any controversy. And he also indulged in an affair with PC, so he ain't saint either.
@@NailsByAsh813 excuse me deary, if you know that, then stick to what was mentioned. No need to being in your opinion for your personal motives. You people live for gossip and controversies as if you have nothing else in your lives.
@@NailsByAsh813 As for the affair, if you have proof of that, offer it otherwise stick to reading the juicy tabloids. Who are we to say what rumors are true and what are false. Nobody on this earth is a Saint period.
I think Deepika said it very casually and she just wanted to say that Ranveer was the one. They must have been in a open relationship mutually. Ranveer might have also seen others. People judge others very fast these days.
Alia and Ranbir laughing 😂😂
As if that relationship is real
Ranbir Kapoorrrrrrrrrrr uncle
@@Besties591 they are real that’s why they are not showing off like deepika & ranveer like they are the best couple in the world
@@krishk9596 Ha bhai, lipstick aur decibel ka bakchodi show-off nahi tha na. 🤣🤣😂😂
Jammy!!! I'll be honest here, looking at you made me lost all that you said after you appeared the second time. There is something about seeing an influencer rarely on screen in their own videos and when you see them, the link breaks.
But as always an unbiased video.
Thank you
True!
Ranbir CHEATED on her while Ranveer wasn't even in a relationship with Deepika when BOTH were dating others 🤦♀️
I love how people forgot 'talking stages' - people nowadays have multiple talking stages to figure who they wanna date so even if DP did it why are people having a hissy fit??
2:46 I have mentioned that it’s all a game of PR and Perception. Even if Deepika was the most virtuous Bangalorean who moved to Mumbai and was the ideal everything, she’d be in the line of fire. Damned if you do, Damned if you don’t
Agreed but it would have been worse had ranveer said the same things all hell would have broken loose,think for a moment about that
@@rahultiwari-dx8qo I don’t think so.
@@PokhrajRoy.Historically it has happened had those 2 gals(sonam and Deepika) not had the gumptions to laugh out loud and wash their dirty linen in public in the same show..isn't the 'Jigolo shaming' which Rk has been getting a decade after all these years.. justifid..I know two wrongs don't make a right but Deeps is a slight offender here in either of the 2 cases: a.disrespecting her earlier statement of preferring a simpler mode of relationship (simple dating then commuting) and now saying that not long after the earlier statement that she wanted a rather open relationship with Ranveer B if not then certainly for sharing too much of private information and disrespecting ranveer in the process.Dont tell the world which side of the bed you sleep on nobody gives a darnn... especially a matter like which involves more than 2 people (ranbir,kat,ranveer,Deepika) and other unnamed ones as well..
@@AravindR-mu7un Others seem to be on attacking duty lol
One thing i noticed how social media can change ur pov..
Like i watched the episode when it was released nd tbh i enjoyed the episode.... I didn't find anything wrong. I thought these things are part of a celeb life. Nd who cares about it..
But the next day when i started watching all the memes ..reels nd all on Insta and Twitter(X)..i noticed my perspective was not like it was before...
Ranveer was so close to turning into homelander in that episode 😆
Honestly I see Ranveer intently listening to Deepika and the demons she’s fought with and nothing more, which is why they complement each other so masterfully. And they both have talked about these things multiple times before and he knows and understands where she is coming from. And some “experts” are just reading too much in between the lines.
6:35 let me tell you one thing, I’ve experienced both poverty and wealth in my life. The thing is this depression from social issues are exclusively a rich issue, when you’re poor your emotions are irrelevant
Maybe it’s me and my feelings towards marriage but the fact that Ranveer and Deepika’s wedding video felt like a trailer launch was hilarious to me.
Really?? What was the genre of the film?? 🤣🤣
@@NailsByAsh813Catastrophic 🫠
The most awaiting episode of the century,, thank you jammy for the review,, pata nahi tha tumhare itne bure din aa jayengey that you have to review an episode of a koffe show😅
Lol, he didn't want to do it. People started DMing him on Instagram to do a review. Basically demand and supply 😂
Aur tumhare itne bure aur fokat din aa jaaenge ki Tum ek Koffee Show ke Episode ka review dekhne aaoge..Ye Tumne socha tha ?
DP has been reckless in her PR moves.
Standing by Tukde gang at JNU during Chappakk promo led to movie being cancelled
So much of heat and dust in kwk only because She got caught in her own web of lies spontaneously exposed by Ranveer.
Loved the intro🤣🤣
In Deepika's case, it was mutual. They both were allowed to see others, RANVEER KNEW IT & he wasnt held at gunpoint.
In Ranbir's case, he CHEATED. He was in relationship with one lady & went behind her back to date other women.
THE CASES ARE DIFFERENT, DONT JUSTIFY RANBIR BY DRAGGING DEEPIKA'S CASE.
The context was Deepika was heartbroken at that time and not interested in any serious relationship..but her point was that inspite of dating other men at that time her connection with ranveer was so special that every time she comes back to him..and may be that's the reason she married to him..I find it very normal and I am sure many one does the same..there is nothing toxic about it..
Maybe the problem lies in the fact that the kind of dating Deepika mentioned is very western styled & probably masses in India don't relate to. Dating multiple people at the same time to find the right person to be exclusive to is a very Western concept; which I learnt when I moved to US nearly 2 decades back. Maybe this is why I didn't find anything wrong in what she said, but many Indians got upset and thought she wasn't loyal to him
So why isn't ranveer getting criticized too? he was an equal participant in this "western style" of dating
@Maya_hee Correct! Based on what video is being interpreted by people, he's coming across an innocent guy who's shocked by Deepikas revelations. Neither of them are wrong. It's the audience who wants celebrities to live by their moral standards.