@Jay Stop hating on the movie just because Johnny isn't in it. By saying you aren't talking about the politics clearly shows that you are. Stop hating on Mads Mikkelsen just because he got the Grindelwald role. It's not his fault what happened to Johnny, you are being very unfair to blame Mads.
@Jay - Everyone hated Johnny Depp as Grindelwald, because he was miscast. When the only actor worse than him was Ezra Miller, that should be reason alone to recast.
Notice how when Dumbledore says he‘d have to trust him unconditionally Theseus doesn’t actually look at Dumbledore, he looks at Newt. When their eyes meet, that’s when he agrees to join. Cause it’s not Dumbledore Theseus trusts unconditionally, it’s Newt.
Obviously. Newt is his brother. Harry would trust Ron and Hermione above Dumbledore. And Dumbledore has not achieved all his accomplishments at this point in life except for Merlin order first class for the sorcerer's stone probably.
@@SunShine-ve5nr Yes, but Newt‘s relationship to Dumbledore is very different to Theseus’ in that regard. He trusts Dumbledore implicitly. He had already made his decision to join him, he didn’t need confirmation from his brother for that. I actually think Harry’s relationship is much more comparable to Newt than to Theseus.
Man! Jude Law played that scene well! The agony and pain of showing that thing practically ripping his arm off. Awesome acting. They picked the right actor for Younger Dumbledore.
@@wavingbuddy3535 It also pieces together what was going on before Harry Potter, and I do hope that the last two anticipated movies actually do happen so that we know what happened during 1945 with the defeat of Grindelwald, sure, everyone slammed Mads Mikkelsen for replacing Johnny Depp but I would say that Mads did an okay job, it wasn’t perfect, but it was somewhere okay, and it kind of felt like Grindelwald and it wasn’t too choppy either so I’d say it’s a pass. I and I do agree that Jude Law does a great job playing Dumbledore, probably the bestest acting that I’ve seen in 2022, I’m writing this in 2023
If you look at how Michael Gambon plays Dumbledore and how Jude Law plays him, Jude law is really acting out as a younger version of him, his gestures, mannerisms and the way he speaks, just as Michael Gambon preformed it. Really brilliant work.
While Richard Harris did a great job portraying Dumbledore, I think Jude Law and Michael Gambon could play him just a little bit better. With Harris, Dumbledore was pretty much always calm and peaceful, so much so that you couldn't tell he had a dark history. Jude and Michael can also play him that way, it seems like Dumbledore is really in control of everything and always stays calm, but with their version you can just notice that Dumbledore is also in pain sometimes.
Kudos to Callum Turner (Theseus) for resisting the urge to try to do too much in this scene. His reserved performance is all in the posture, and in his eyes. He had the wisdom to let his character's caution play against Jude Law's intensity n' pent up emotions. Well played, sir.
I agree I love how Callum Turner played Theseus in this scene. But I don't think Jude Law was being too much. This was a painful part of Dumbledore's past that he was talking about so I think it is reasonable for him to react that way.
Bruh, when an actor shows emotion then it's taken away from the viewers. It's in the restraint of emotions where viewers start to feel it as well. For all the praise you've given him in your comment, all it really says is him not being a garbage of an actor - something that's unfortunately has gotten quite common for some reason.
@@edmis90 You have a very insane idea of what an actor is supposed to do and how people react to emotions. They portray a character, and act in the way that character would as a person. People have to see emotions to react to them, and that includes "feeling them" if the viewer is so inclined. Personally, I watch movies for the story, not to be manipulated into having a reaction to stimuli causing chemicals to be released in my brain. Which is all emotions are.
@@cecilia8515 @soupistasty5 didn't say Jude Law was being too much with emotion. I agree with you, Jude Law played the character very well and the intensity of his emotion was properly portrayed.
This scene is great! Jude Law’s acting is fantastic! I think Secrets of Dumbledore is my favorite out of the Fantastic Beasts prequels. I hope JKR announces Part 4 soon.
@@kevincobble934 the 2nd movie is much better than this one. You'll see how powerful and manipulative Grindelwald is. This 3rd movie is nothing but a secret that Dumbledore had. That he was inlove with Grindelwald. There's nothing special about this.
@@creepofreako This movie is great because it provides more background information on Albus Dumbledore (like hints from the DH novel) and it was just so much fun. Personally, I like all of the prequels, but two and three are my favorites out of them.
There's a couple of instances where he truly reminds me of a younger version of the original actor who played Dumbledore in the first movie. So cool. Jude Law killing it.
I always thought Jude's Albus would grow up to be Richard Harris' version instead of Michael Gambon's with his deeper voice and mannerisms, though I'm obviously aware they're all the same Albus
@@rhetiq9989 that's the point. Because, if harris didn't die, gambon wouldn't be a thing in HP series. So they made up with casting Jude law to be able to connect him with Harris's Dumbledore. Gambon was worse on the goblet of fire. He didn't even read the books.
@@creepofreako actors don’t have to read the source material it’s not required if anything the director is the one who should read the source material actors just follow the script and what they are told, Tobey maguire is recognized as everyone’s favorite Spider-Man yet the actor himself admitted towards never reading Spider-Man comics or even being that into the Spider-Man series and from his performance we couldn’t tell the difference so really blame the director not the actor dumbledore wasn’t the only issue with the goblet of fire a lot went wrong because of the direction it’s like the director chose not to read that book
@@vivaraulito and you missed my whole point. You focused your irrelevant opinion on my last statement which is gambon not reading the books. Harris and Jude Law is the real Dumbledore. Nuff said.
They must have done this intentionally, but the cord wrapping around Dumbledore's hand looks eerily similar to the pattern of the unbreakable vow. And considering the context of both, I'm 99% sure this is a nice little Easter egg
Could be gay doubt it more like brotherly love or friend love they bother were going through something and found each other at that time so made a bond just because they say love doesn't mean they were sleeping together
For those asking as I thought it myself. The title is misleading. He doesn’t use any Dark Magic in this scene. However the blood pact was considered by some to be dark magic. Though not the kind of dark magic that the likes of Death Eaters and Voldemort use.
I'm not sure anyone else has noticed this, but if one remembers the notes sung some seconds after the Dumbledore vs Grindelwald fight ends and the then broken blood pact floats in mid air, those same notes are played instrumentally in this scene when Dumbledore is holding it up. At the beginning of the movie still bound together but when heard at the end a symbolism of their final split.
@@SethHixieare you implying the last one wasn't garbage? Because it was or at least it was not good. And I say that as a die hard Harry Potter fan. The story doesn't make any sense. The first one was really good, from the second one on it started to get downhill fast
To be clear, many critics and fans of the Wizarding World have deemed this franchise cancelled for a while now. However, despite the announcement of the Harry potter TV show, Warner Bros. has yet to confirm either the official cancellation, or continuation of this series. Harry Potter director David Yates himself stated in an interview in 2023 while promoting his Netflix Original Pain Hustlers, "I started Potter in 2005. So, it's been an amazing journey. We made the last one, The Secrets of Dumbledore, through the pandemic, pre-vaccine. So, we were shooting that movie without vaccines, and it took its toll. It was a tough ride to get it together. Huge affection and a lovely group of people I work with, and I love all of them, but we haven't had a conversation since we finished it. It's been about, 'Let's just park it and let's be done for a while'. So never say never I would say".
@@shrutimahant hopefully they continue the series I wanna see more of Dumbledore & Grindelwald’s complicated love story and friendship they’re the only characters I care about in this series
These movies are ok, but I like these three a lot, and Jude Law is literally a perfect young version of the original Dumbledore from Sorcerer’s Stone and Chamber of Secrets. Soft spoken and kind but you can sense the power beneath that. Great job by him.
2:15 Those eyes were the eyes of what Michael Gambon's Dumbledore exactly would be when he were young. Perfect casting they chose Jude Law. I could feel Dumbledore here.
i think its a combination of occlumency and 'but i'm thinking about YOU betraying him. Don't mind me, just speaking random info that just happens to be important tactical info that you somehow overhear'. On the other hand, Dumbledore is a total drama queen and no one can budge me from my position. The fact that that man avoided Slytherin is just a testament to his Slytherinness.
When both Grindlewald and Dumbledore attacked each, their mutual defiance towards the pact caused it to break. It cannot hurt both of them at the same time, it therefore is undone. Neither of them can destroy the pact alone and they cannot think of betraying each other. Their meeting and its result was a catalyst leading to their final fight which unfortunately is likely never happening.
The "It senses the betrayal in my heart" scene in 1:49 was sooo brilliantly acted. The way you can really hear the pain in Dumbledore's voice, and it's not only the physical pain that hurts him but also the mere thought of hurting Grindelwald. The blood pact is of something that they made as something of a token of their love and the phial containing their blood always know what they feel for each other. That's why Albus says "It knows, you see." Should they ever think of betraying each other, the vial will strangle them as it is the symbol of their love and it violates the blood pact they made. Basically, the phial is the proving testament of their love fore each other. Not just because of the pact itself.
I really really wish we could get an ending to this story… I know people love to hate this spin-off, but I absolutely love it. I just felt there wasn’t enough information. Like they show us stuff, but never explain it. But it’s still so good. And he plays a great younger albus. It pisses me off that they just left the story hanging, and are now making a TV series to tell a story that’s already been told TWICE… finish this one first.
the actors were great and I even like most of the characters but the story started to make no sense from the second film onwards and got very convoluted.
@@resathe6760 made perfect sense to me. The only bit that was a bit off was why the kept the mentions of Tina in the third film when they weren’t actually going to use her character.
The best Fantastic Beasts was the first one, reason being it brought you back into the Wizarding world with a sense of familiarity, newness, and excitement. We as the audience experienced the world through Jacob's eyes, but as fans were able to see all the ways it connected and referenced what we read in HP books. The characters were interesting and we'll acted aswell. It's probably my favorite "Harry Potter" Movie. The 2 and 3 movie focus more on plot, than the experience of magic. I enjoyed Crimes of Grindelwald, but the plot and story sort of feel like a jumbled mess, buut it lands amazingly. Johnny Depp really does a fantastic job of being charismatic, convincing and intimidating. Jude Law is a perfect young Dumbledore. The final 3rd act was just amazing, The speech, WW2 vision, Queeny leaving, Credence/ Dumbledore reveal. It leaves you with excitement of what's to come. This 3rd movie has the opposite affect. The 1st half starts interesting with the restaurant scene, and quickly promises a delightfully confusing scheme, that should unfold in a clever way, and with a title like "Secrets of Dumbledore" you can only wonder what those secrets will be. But I feel as if that aspect is never fully rewarded, and 3rd act wasn't as exciting as promised. I do enjoy the franchise as a whole and hope they are able to finish the story of Dumbledore vs Grindelwald in a worthy way.
The characters and actors in the first film (aside from Newt, Jacob, and Graves) are all trash and poorly written. The screenplay is terrible and the only thing memorable was NYC. The second film is an incoherent mess and antisemitic.
@@ChienaAvtzon well Newt and Jacob were the main characters and their dynamic drives the movie, so that's basically what I'm talking about. And I loved Jacob and Queeny's relationship and the fact that he got obliviated at the end, bitter sweet. How was the second film anit-semitic? Never heard that before.
I'd say the problem is that they're all "Fantastic Beasts" movies, so they have to force a fantastical beast storyline in there somehow every single time. That was great for the first movie, kinda questionable in the 2nd, and bad in the 3rd. It just feels like complete filler fluff to the big conflict and dumbledore x grindewald situation.
@@EdolasMystogan True good point. I mean if Newt is the main character though I get still making it a Fantastic Beast movie. But the movies could have been successful even if they just titled them Crimes of Grindelwald and Secrets of Dumbledore, and focused on those aspects. But idk really I'll have to think on it little more lol. I do enjoy the magical animal/monster aspect to these movies.
The title is somewhat misleading but I guess it is Dark Magic... not like the kind Voldemort or Grindelwald did of course but I am sure Dumbledore is perfectly capable of it should he want to.
Dumbledore is one of the most powerful wizards to ever live he is perfectly capable of very powerful and dark magic he just does not use it much he is also the only wizard powerful enough to defeat grindalwald In a duel and eventually does in 1945 thats how he obtains the elder wand
@@sakshamsharma5338 None, blood magic is not necesarily dark magic. Arguably someone can say this is ''control'' magic or curse since it exerts control over a creature and that is said to be a form of dark arts but since its mutual (not one sided) its not considered dark magic (taking into consideration severus snape explanation of dark arts in the books)
Dumbledore: It senses the betrayal in my heart! Were I to even think about betraying him... *gasps chokes and writhes* Also Dumbledore 1 minute later thinking of plan to stop him: "If we're to defeat him the Chilluns only part of it." *nothing happens*
Maybe this could be explained by saying: "well, the magic object protects them from fighting and the slightest thought of betrayal, that's precisely why I as a Dumledore need all of you so you can execute my elaborate plan to defeat him, so I don't have to do/think anything, so the bond doesn't affect me" - I wonder if that's suggested in the movie? I don't recall it, that's an easy fix to this.
Both he and Narcissa would've died. I believe the same rule applies if they refuse one of the questions that come with the vow. I'd say they'd most likely die in this type of fashion.
Your title is not correct, Dumbledore is not using dark magic. He is showing Newt and Theseus what happens when he tries to fight Grindelwald. That is very different to actively using dark magic to hurt others.
It's also not wrong if blood troths are considered dark magic, since the troth is Dumbledore's magic. As far as misleading titles go, this can be considered quite accurate.
@@Isaic02 It is wrong, he is showing what happens to him if he goes against it. That isn't the same as using dark magic. It is not accurate at all. The title implies that Dumbledore is using dark magic to attack someone but he isn't.
@@cecilia8515 Assuming: 1) Dumbledore's (and Grindelwald's) magic is what created the blood troth. 2) Blood troths are created with dark magic and therefore activate using dark magic. 3) Dumbledore actively chose to activate(aka use) the blood troth. We can come to the conclusion that Dumbledore used dark magic. I don't consider using blood to be inherently dark regardless, but even if it was, Dumbledore never shied away from forbidden/dark magic in his studies. Though certainly he was not as learned in them as ones like Voldemort or probably Grindelwald.
@@Isaic02 1) You said you don't consider using blood as dark magic yet you are saying that is why it is dark magic, contradictory. 2) I am talking about what is happening in this scene not what Dumbledore did in the past to create the blood pact. 3) Umbridge used Harry's blood to torture him, how is that not inherently dark? 4) The correct title would be "Dumbledore showing the consequences of him going against Grindelwald" not using dark magic. The pact had already been made, making the pact was the dark magic not showing the consequences of it.
@@cecilia8515 Respectively replying to each: 1) I said assuming blood troths are made using dark magic in both my comments, since the video poster did. If we are to *assume* they believe the title they created. If you aren't comprehending, then perhaps you should read them a few more times. 2) The blood troth moves, grows, and senses intentions and thoughts: magic is still involved. If you want to argue that the current magic is not the same magic used at it's creation, then go ahead, but not with me. 3) I would say that Umbridge's usage is considered dark magic. I previously stated, "I don't consider using blood to be inherently dark..." Umbridge's usage of blood magic was implementing torture, so yes, I consider it dark. However, making a truly binding pact is not if it is done rightfully and willfully by both parties. (Though it might be stupid.) 4) That might be a more accurate title, but that is subjective since the subject is fictional. Therefore, making the *assumptions* stated previously, as is done in any argument, experiment, and facet of life, we can conclude that others disagree. That being proof that it is subjective.
A captivating movie series. A real pity fans did not come out and let outside factors influence them. Would love to see a 4th episode to wrap things up..
@@layton6202 yeah but the fans were al freaking out bc of the J K Rowling vs trans people scandal and then the johnny depp being fired thing. I've seen WAY worst franchise going on and on for several movies to the point of bein ridiculous (for example idk.. like Transformers movies). So it's such a pity a not so bad franchise like this abbandoned for ourside reasons
@@layton6202 I actually think the third had way better pacing than the first two And I find it funny now that people are saying the movies are bad but when they first came out people were praising them saying they were amazing 🙄🧐
A lot of the hate comes from things outside the movie. JK Rowling angered many people by stating biology is a fact. And others hate it for recasting Johnny Depp as Grindelwald. And now you have the scandals involving Ezra Miller.
Personally, while I don’t hate the FB films at all, there are still a few things that bother me: 1. Plotholes. Not really in the first film since that was a completely new world of characters and places we hadn’t seen before but once they started merging the Hogwarts world into it there started to be huuge holes and inconsistencies. 2. Characters. There are so many interesting characters with complicated backstories in the FB films but they just didn’t have time to do them justice. And then some actors didn’t wanna continue (like the actress for Nagini) so they added even more characters. Now they tried to give everyone at least some closure in FB3 which I liked but some fell very short (like Yusuf). They would’ve needed like twice as long a film to wrap everything up properly. 3. I don’t like how a lot of the magical items or beasts are introduced. They just pop up without any explanation and just as quickly disappear without adding much to the story. Take Dumbledore‘s pocket watch thing. He takes it out briefly to look at Credence then its never seen again. Could it be sth like a foeglass? Maybe but we don’t know and it doesn’t really matter either. Compare that to something like the sorting hat or the deluminator. While in HP we also rarely get to know why something works the way it does the items have a name, a backstory and a relevance in the plot. Now I get that this is actually a lot harder to do in FB bc one of the brilliant things in HP was that we were discovering the magical world alongside the students who also saw all of these things for the first time. In FB the characters are all adult experienced wizards. It would be weird if Dumbledore suddenly started explaining his spells to Newt. In FB1 it was nice because we had a similar situation with Jacob learning about magic. But FB2 was a lot weaker imo. There were so many cool effects and amazing visuals, they had a bigger budget than HP ever had but it didn’t touch me the way HP did at all. It just didn’t have that depth to it. And that’s exactly why I loved FB3 so much more. It’s arguably the holiest of plots and the election story line wasn’t like my top favourite but the center of the film was the Dumbledore/Grindelwald relationship and that was SO incredibly well done that I can overlook a lot of the rest. It’s why I also never minded plotholes in HP that much. For me enjoying a movie is a lot about feeling emotionally connected to it and FB3 did that very well. …If anyone actually read this kudos 😂
That's because the Potter book characters were so well defined. Can't relate to Newt character. Didn't like him or Redmayne's portrayal. The Potter movies weren't as good as the books but due to the huge popularity of the books and perfect casting people loved the potterverse. And if it wasn't for Dumbledore the original series fans wouldn't care much about the prequels. And Johnny's Grindelwald had that maniacal glint. This guy simply has to be stated as dangerous. We wouldn't feel he is dangerous.
It was an absolute mess from an organizational standpoint, there was no character depth to anyone, and the plot was littered with missed opportunities and inconsistencies. The tone of the movies never really found its groove, and they completely brushed over what could’ve been a really good flushed out relationship between Dumbledore and Grindelwald. It seems like the studio said, “people like Dumbledore in the old movies, why change him?” He was the same wise & witty, dumbledore, just younger and hotter. I’m beyond disappointed in these films as a huge potterhead.
Theseus when his brother is socially awkward and stands for magical beasts: "try to be a little bit less you." Theseus when Dumbledore admits to being in love with an other man who happens to be the magical equivalent of Hitler when society at the time was firmly homophobic: "this is fine."
@@jd0879 Honestly, I'm pretty sure it's more of a writing issue. Characters in Fantastic beasts are really flat outside of Newt, Jacob, Dumbledore and Grindelwald.
@@jd0879 that's what his character is. i am not 100 percent sure but i guess i heard/read somewhere that newt is also going through autism. so, it adds up to his character. now, personally speaking, newt is my favourite! :) eddie acted amazingly.
Grindelwald is probably more Himmler or thr other notorious SS Officers more so than Hitler himself as Voldermort is more Hitler like than he is. Probably more Stalin like even or a mixture.
Pretty much sums up his way of dealing with things. He told Harry very little about how to succeed in hunting horcruxes, he left the trio to sort out problems themselves. He told Harry to force him to drink the potion in the cave. He asked Snape to support and carry out his plans even if he was unsure about them.
That little vial _is_ the dark magic. I haven't even seen this movie, and that seems pretty obvious to me. It's _a little_ misleading, since the actual spell was performed years ago, but what we're seeing is _the evidence_ of dark magic he once performed. I mean, that chain trying to rip his arm off and strangle him to death seems pretty damn dark to me.
I used to hate the series because the internet told me to. I watched them all a few days ago and for the sake of enjoying it, I stopped seeing it through the criticism and they really were good. I like Mikkelsen better as Grindelwald, his Grindelwald is more charismatically political, his chemistry with Jude Law was sensual. He brought maturity to the series instead of gimmicks. What happened to Depp was tragic and I’m not saying I hated his version but when everyone attacking Mikkelsen seemed so childish. The cancellation of the series was such a betrayal to the fandom. I wish they revive it one day in my lifetime. 😢
In the scene where dumbledore and credence meet on the street and have a little fight, i thought dumbledore used legillimency on credence as the space they are in is something other than the real world and dumbledore seems to be in control of it.
JK Rowling confirmed it after the seventh Harry Potter book came out, because it was hinted at in the 7th book. The 7th movie did not portray the Grindelwald scene well, so I think that’s why it was surprising for people who did not read the books.
@@dreamergirl6017 I believe she wrote it in a script for film 5 or 6 as a side not that Dumbledore was gay. When she read on the script that Dumbledore knew a girl once that he fancied.
In fiction, I like the concept of good in love with bad. Of course things might not start out bad for one of them, but its nice to see. Makes a very compelling and interesting story.
I still think the reason Dumbledore gives Harry in Kings’ Cross during ‘Deathly Hallows,’ is a far better reason as to why Dumbledore did not move against Grindelwald earlier. He told Harry, he was afraid of finding out which one of them killed his sister. It makes a far more emotional and compelling reason without making a McGuffin out of the story.
It doesn't have to be. Towards the end of his life, Dumbledore still loved Grindlewald, even if he nearly destroyed the world. Even if the blood troth existed then, Dumbledore would still be afraid to find out. Even if it's true Grindlewald killed his sister, he can't actually hate him because he still loves him.
@@IgnatiaWildsmith1227 tell me one good thing u liked about this movie? boring plotline about magic world politics? no secrets of dumbledore revealed ? almost zero screen time on magical beasts? stupid plot armors?
@@saimah1832 I personally liked all the new magical governments and the politics. A significant amount of the movie was about one of the beasts the 2 qilins. Dumbledores "secrets" was his gay relationship with grindelwald, him possibly being the cause of his sisters death, temptation with the dark arts, and credence being his nephew
@@IgnatiaWildsmith1227 Did you know they made it so they could cut it out for the sake of showing it in China? It was done so that it didnt affect the plot. Ridiculous.
Don't forget to commend the fact that Jude Law's speech is tailored after the first dumbledore actor, you can hear it in how he pronounces his words, and the mannerisms too!
They should make a tv show about Voldemorts rise to power - the tv show or movies should end with him killling Harry’s mom and him dying - come full circle- Show a young black, lupin, Snape, etc
No matter how bad most auto-proclaimed online critics deemed the fantastic beasts franchise to be, we, at least, really deserved to see the five films completed in order to witness the greatest wizard duel of all time. I admit it was far from perfect but the public opinion should’ve overlooked those little errors in order to encourage the producers to go on with it. But no, the HP extremist fans publicly chose to destroy a good project that deserved an ending.
It took me a few watches to realize (not sure if this was obvious to everyone but me), but the way the blood troth is wrapped around Dumbledore's arm resembles an Unbreakable Vow. So either the blood troth was a precursor to the creation of the Unbreakable Vow, or it's a variation if it that has a different set of regulations
@@GameoftheYear-fx4mq WB said it depends on performance n reviews of the 3rd one if they continue n it did the least best box office wise so theres a chance it might not go ahead :(
@@A_Vermy well it doesn't matter how much it made, it's still Harry Potter, J.K Rowling is rich enough to make the rest of the movies possible regardless of how much box office. Same for star wars how after episode 8, another movie was still made.
They have five originally planned, which sounds crazy but I hope it gets done. I'm just really interested in the story, but I would like to see movies that deal with post Harry Potter. There's just too much going backwards with the Wizarding World: -Hogwarts Mystery (Mobile game set just after The Potters death). -Fantastic Beasts (set before Harry's story). -Hogwarts Legacy (upcoming next generation console game set in 1800s Wizarding World). Just to name a few examples. Still hoping for more Fantastic Beasts. At least until they finish the story.
I wanted to point out that the movies probably made Theseus look worse than he is, like how he was captured at that event. He is the Head of the British auror office. Which means says to me he is on the same level with Moody.
Tbh when i read the original books they just seemed like close friends brought together by their respective genius. I read them so much they fell apart so it confused me when rowling said they were gay.
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@Jay Stop hating on the movie just because Johnny isn't in it. By saying you aren't talking about the politics clearly shows that you are. Stop hating on Mads Mikkelsen just because he got the Grindelwald role. It's not his fault what happened to Johnny, you are being very unfair to blame Mads.
This is not him using dark magic. Get your facts right
@Jay - Everyone hated Johnny Depp as Grindelwald, because he was miscast. When the only actor worse than him was Ezra Miller, that should be reason alone to recast.
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so where was the dark magic part?
Notice how when Dumbledore says he‘d have to trust him unconditionally Theseus doesn’t actually look at Dumbledore, he looks at Newt. When their eyes meet, that’s when he agrees to join. Cause it’s not Dumbledore Theseus trusts unconditionally, it’s Newt.
True.. Very True
Obviously. Newt is his brother. Harry would trust Ron and Hermione above Dumbledore. And Dumbledore has not achieved all his accomplishments at this point in life except for Merlin order first class for the sorcerer's stone probably.
Well said.
Obvious observation but nice pickup.
@@SunShine-ve5nr Yes, but Newt‘s relationship to Dumbledore is very different to Theseus’ in that regard. He trusts Dumbledore implicitly. He had already made his decision to join him, he didn’t need confirmation from his brother for that.
I actually think Harry’s relationship is much more comparable to Newt than to Theseus.
Man! Jude Law played that scene well! The agony and pain of showing that thing practically ripping his arm off. Awesome acting. They picked the right actor for Younger Dumbledore.
Can't get much better than Jude Law! One of the best actors of this generation easily
Such a shame FB is getting so much hate. It's honestly a much better storyline than HP, has better actors too
@@wavingbuddy3535 It also pieces together what was going on before Harry Potter, and I do hope that the last two anticipated movies actually do happen so that we know what happened during 1945 with the defeat of Grindelwald, sure, everyone slammed Mads Mikkelsen for replacing Johnny Depp but I would say that Mads did an okay job, it wasn’t perfect, but it was somewhere okay, and it kind of felt like Grindelwald and it wasn’t too choppy either so I’d say it’s a pass.
I and I do agree that Jude Law does a great job playing Dumbledore, probably the bestest acting that I’ve seen in 2022, I’m writing this in 2023
@@wavingbuddy3535 "HAD" better actors. Since Johnny Depp isn't the Grindelwald anymore. FB series will flop without him.
Notice how he copies the mannerisms of the actor that plays Dumbledore in Deathly Hallows? He is indeed a world class actor.
If you look at how Michael Gambon plays Dumbledore and how Jude Law plays him, Jude law is really acting out as a younger version of him, his gestures, mannerisms and the way he speaks, just as Michael Gambon preformed it. Really brilliant work.
His mannerism, his wit, his begging but mysterious, his arrogance, his ego, everything, I really like Jude Law as young Dumbledore
While Richard Harris did a great job portraying Dumbledore, I think Jude Law and Michael Gambon could play him just a little bit better. With Harris, Dumbledore was pretty much always calm and peaceful, so much so that you couldn't tell he had a dark history. Jude and Michael can also play him that way, it seems like Dumbledore is really in control of everything and always stays calm, but with their version you can just notice that Dumbledore is also in pain sometimes.
@@somebody4763 Harris exuded calm power, in a way that Gambon never could. Harris was the Dumbledore that Voldemort feared.
@@somebody4763 "Did you put your name in the goblet of fire?"
@@mykellederickpalad7883 Yeah, I guess he wasn't feeling too well at the time XD
Kudos to Callum Turner (Theseus) for resisting the urge to try to do too much in this scene. His reserved performance is all in the posture, and in his eyes. He had the wisdom to let his character's caution play against Jude Law's intensity n' pent up emotions. Well played, sir.
I agree I love how Callum Turner played Theseus in this scene. But I don't think Jude Law was being too much. This was a painful part of Dumbledore's past that he was talking about so I think it is reasonable for him to react that way.
Bruh, when an actor shows emotion then it's taken away from the viewers. It's in the restraint of emotions where viewers start to feel it as well.
For all the praise you've given him in your comment, all it really says is him not being a garbage of an actor - something that's unfortunately has gotten quite common for some reason.
@@edmis90 You have a very insane idea of what an actor is supposed to do and how people react to emotions. They portray a character, and act in the way that character would as a person. People have to see emotions to react to them, and that includes "feeling them" if the viewer is so inclined. Personally, I watch movies for the story, not to be manipulated into having a reaction to stimuli causing chemicals to be released in my brain. Which is all emotions are.
@@edmis90 You watched that interview clip too? Hahahahahahaha
@@cecilia8515 @soupistasty5 didn't say Jude Law was being too much with emotion. I agree with you, Jude Law played the character very well and the intensity of his emotion was properly portrayed.
Jude Law is such a ridiculously amazing actor. This scene alone is worth the price of admission.
Disagree. I wouldn't pay $10 to see this scene.
This scene is great! Jude Law’s acting is fantastic! I think Secrets of Dumbledore is my favorite out of the Fantastic Beasts prequels. I hope JKR announces Part 4 soon.
@@kevincobble934 the 2nd movie is much better than this one. You'll see how powerful and manipulative Grindelwald is. This 3rd movie is nothing but a secret that Dumbledore had. That he was inlove with Grindelwald. There's nothing special about this.
@@kevincobble934 well thing about it this way: this movie its the reason why the wizarding saga ended
@@creepofreako This movie is great because it provides more background information on Albus Dumbledore (like hints from the DH novel) and it was just so much fun. Personally, I like all of the prequels, but two and three are my favorites out of them.
Jude Law really did well picking up the old Dumbledore actor's mannerisms in talking and all, even subtle. Great acting here all around
in the most normal way possible, i could listen to jude law speak forever his voice is so calming
There's a couple of instances where he truly reminds me of a younger version of the original actor who played Dumbledore in the first movie. So cool. Jude Law killing it.
@ClassicNegan I didn't ask.
I always thought Jude's Albus would grow up to be Richard Harris' version instead of Michael Gambon's with his deeper voice and mannerisms, though I'm obviously aware they're all the same Albus
@@rhetiq9989 that's the point. Because, if harris didn't die, gambon wouldn't be a thing in HP series. So they made up with casting Jude law to be able to connect him with Harris's Dumbledore. Gambon was worse on the goblet of fire. He didn't even read the books.
@@creepofreako actors don’t have to read the source material it’s not required if anything the director is the one who should read the source material actors just follow the script and what they are told, Tobey maguire is recognized as everyone’s favorite Spider-Man yet the actor himself admitted towards never reading Spider-Man comics or even being that into the Spider-Man series and from his performance we couldn’t tell the difference so really blame the director not the actor dumbledore wasn’t the only issue with the goblet of fire a lot went wrong because of the direction it’s like the director chose not to read that book
@@vivaraulito and you missed my whole point. You focused your irrelevant opinion on my last statement which is gambon not reading the books. Harris and Jude Law is the real Dumbledore. Nuff said.
They must have done this intentionally, but the cord wrapping around Dumbledore's hand looks eerily similar to the pattern of the unbreakable vow. And considering the context of both, I'm 99% sure this is a nice little Easter egg
The hand the cord is on is also the hand that gets rotted by Voldemort’s Horcruxs
Oh you’re right, it does, good spotting
or perhaps a blood knot works with the unbreakable vow as a basis for the magic
@@doublehit9165 not even the same thing :/
"my hands are bound" is not an expression without reason
3:11 Is almost the same line as when Dumbledore told Harry to follow his exact instructions at the Locket Horcrux cave
Recycling!
But not quite as Harry already trusted Dumbledore
They did such a great job of makeup on the "brothers." You can totally believe that they are actual siblings.
Callum turner kind of looks like a mix of Eddie redmayne (which makes sense as they are playing brothers) and Benedict Cumberbatch
@@wilmeech it's still wild that Callum Turner is playing the older brother when he's younger than Eddie Redmayne.
I told my girlfriend he was gay and she called me 3 different kinds of stupid. It was a real man enjoyment moment when she saw this movie.
Could be gay doubt it more like brotherly love or friend love they bother were going through something and found each other at that time so made a bond just because they say love doesn't mean they were sleeping together
It’s been confirmed by jk for years my guy he’s gay.
We know Grindelwald/Dumbeldore were gay lovers since original Harry Potter, it's nothing new, Rowling confirmed that ages ago.
@@loading...8512 - Get your head out of the sand. Dumbledore and Grindelwald have always been lovers.
You told your girlfriend "he was gay"? I'm so confused. 😊
For those asking as I thought it myself.
The title is misleading. He doesn’t use any Dark Magic in this scene. However the blood pact was considered by some to be dark magic. Though not the kind of dark magic that the likes of Death Eaters and Voldemort use.
I'm not sure anyone else has noticed this, but if one remembers the notes sung some seconds after the Dumbledore vs Grindelwald fight ends and the then broken blood pact floats in mid air, those same notes are played instrumentally in this scene when Dumbledore is holding it up. At the beginning of the movie still bound together but when heard at the end a symbolism of their final split.
They never should have cancelled the series. Fantastic Beasts deserved a proper ending with the two remaining movies.
Warner Bros would rather make garbage for the sheep
@@SethHixie As a HP Fan, Rowling is also a good reason to why the series took a dump on this one and the second film
@@SethHixieare you implying the last one wasn't garbage? Because it was or at least it was not good. And I say that as a die hard Harry Potter fan. The story doesn't make any sense. The first one was really good, from the second one on it started to get downhill fast
To be clear, many critics and fans of the Wizarding World have deemed this franchise cancelled for a while now. However, despite the announcement of the Harry potter TV show, Warner Bros. has yet to confirm either the official cancellation, or continuation of this series. Harry Potter director David Yates himself stated in an interview in 2023 while promoting his Netflix Original Pain Hustlers,
"I started Potter in 2005. So, it's been an amazing journey. We made the last one, The Secrets of Dumbledore, through the pandemic, pre-vaccine. So, we were shooting that movie without vaccines, and it took its toll. It was a tough ride to get it together. Huge affection and a lovely group of people I work with, and I love all of them, but we haven't had a conversation since we finished it. It's been about, 'Let's just park it and let's be done for a while'. So never say never I would say".
@@shrutimahant hopefully they continue the series I wanna see more of Dumbledore & Grindelwald’s complicated love story and friendship they’re the only characters I care about in this series
Jude Law talent is over the charts. Such a great artist
These movies are ok, but I like these three a lot, and Jude Law is literally a perfect young version of the original Dumbledore from Sorcerer’s Stone and Chamber of Secrets. Soft spoken and kind but you can sense the power beneath that. Great job by him.
*philosophers stone
That end fight was so good, a short one minute fight but that’s we needed for now, the great battle between them is going to be amazing.
2:15 Those eyes were the eyes of what Michael Gambon's Dumbledore exactly would be when he were young. Perfect casting they chose Jude Law. I could feel Dumbledore here.
"Were I to even think about defying him..." Proceeds to plan and carry out an entire operation to defy him without inciting a similar incident.
"It can't be undone"
*gets randomly undone because plot*
i think its a combination of occlumency and 'but i'm thinking about YOU betraying him. Don't mind me, just speaking random info that just happens to be important tactical info that you somehow overhear'. On the other hand, Dumbledore is a total drama queen and no one can budge me from my position. The fact that that man avoided Slytherin is just a testament to his Slytherinness.
When both Grindlewald and Dumbledore attacked each, their mutual defiance towards the pact caused it to break. It cannot hurt both of them at the same time, it therefore is undone. Neither of them can destroy the pact alone and they cannot think of betraying each other. Their meeting and its result was a catalyst leading to their final fight which unfortunately is likely never happening.
The "It senses the betrayal in my heart" scene in 1:49 was sooo brilliantly acted. The way you can really hear the pain in Dumbledore's voice, and it's not only the physical pain that hurts him but also the mere thought of hurting Grindelwald. The blood pact is of something that they made as something of a token of their love and the phial containing their blood always know what they feel for each other. That's why Albus says "It knows, you see." Should they ever think of betraying each other, the vial will strangle them as it is the symbol of their love and it violates the blood pact they made. Basically, the phial is the proving testament of their love fore each other. Not just because of the pact itself.
am I that tired or did you really repeat what dumbledore said in like 4 slightly different ways
He feels more like the Dumbledore from movies 1 and 2, rather than hte later one, and that is nice
I always thought this myself.
I really really wish we could get an ending to this story… I know people love to hate this spin-off, but I absolutely love it. I just felt there wasn’t enough information. Like they show us stuff, but never explain it. But it’s still so good. And he plays a great younger albus. It pisses me off that they just left the story hanging, and are now making a TV series to tell a story that’s already been told TWICE… finish this one first.
All these utterly dragging movies and they cancel before we get THE greatest duel of wizards in history between Gellart and Albus. Gods damn it!!
the actors were great and I even like most of the characters but the story started to make no sense from the second film onwards and got very convoluted.
The films were 100x better than the potter movies. But Rowling went all t.e.r.f. and lost most of her fans.
@@MiningForPiesthe first was really good, but from the second one the plot started to make no sense
@@resathe6760 made perfect sense to me. The only bit that was a bit off was why the kept the mentions of Tina in the third film when they weren’t actually going to use her character.
The best Fantastic Beasts was the first one, reason being it brought you back into the Wizarding world with a sense of familiarity, newness, and excitement. We as the audience experienced the world through Jacob's eyes, but as fans were able to see all the ways it connected and referenced what we read in HP books. The characters were interesting and we'll acted aswell. It's probably my favorite "Harry Potter" Movie.
The 2 and 3 movie focus more on plot, than the experience of magic. I enjoyed Crimes of Grindelwald, but the plot and story sort of feel like a jumbled mess, buut it lands amazingly. Johnny Depp really does a fantastic job of being charismatic, convincing and intimidating. Jude Law is a perfect young Dumbledore. The final 3rd act was just amazing, The speech, WW2 vision, Queeny leaving, Credence/ Dumbledore reveal. It leaves you with excitement of what's to come.
This 3rd movie has the opposite affect. The 1st half starts interesting with the restaurant scene, and quickly promises a delightfully confusing scheme, that should unfold in a clever way, and with a title like "Secrets of Dumbledore" you can only wonder what those secrets will be. But I feel as if that aspect is never fully rewarded, and 3rd act wasn't as exciting as promised. I do enjoy the franchise as a whole and hope they are able to finish the story of Dumbledore vs Grindelwald in a worthy way.
The characters and actors in the first film (aside from Newt, Jacob, and Graves) are all trash and poorly written. The screenplay is terrible and the only thing memorable was NYC. The second film is an incoherent mess and antisemitic.
@@ChienaAvtzon well Newt and Jacob were the main characters and their dynamic drives the movie, so that's basically what I'm talking about. And I loved Jacob and Queeny's relationship and the fact that he got obliviated at the end, bitter sweet.
How was the second film anit-semitic? Never heard that before.
I'd say the problem is that they're all "Fantastic Beasts" movies, so they have to force a fantastical beast storyline in there somehow every single time. That was great for the first movie, kinda questionable in the 2nd, and bad in the 3rd. It just feels like complete filler fluff to the big conflict and dumbledore x grindewald situation.
@@EdolasMystogan True good point. I mean if Newt is the main character though I get still making it a Fantastic Beast movie. But the movies could have been successful even if they just titled them Crimes of Grindelwald and Secrets of Dumbledore, and focused on those aspects. But idk really I'll have to think on it little more lol. I do enjoy the magical animal/monster aspect to these movies.
This one was great
0:25 "Excellent, 10 points to Hufflepuff !!"
:D good one.
Theseus was not a Hufflepuff though, was he? (Not sure myself.)
Sorry, looked it up. He was in Hufflepuff. Had Ravenclaw-Vibes with him :)
The title is somewhat misleading but I guess it is Dark Magic... not like the kind Voldemort or Grindelwald did of course but I am sure Dumbledore is perfectly capable of it should he want to.
absolutely
Dumbledore is one of the most powerful wizards to ever live he is perfectly capable of very powerful and dark magic he just does not use it much he is also the only wizard powerful enough to defeat grindalwald In a duel and eventually does in 1945 thats how he obtains the elder wand
@@tyewallace6863 when he was younger he had the same vison and grindelwald
Which dark magic did Dumbledore use in this scene? I am so confused, can someone answer please.
@@sakshamsharma5338 None, blood magic is not necesarily dark magic.
Arguably someone can say this is ''control'' magic or curse since it exerts control over a creature and that is said to be a form of dark arts but since its mutual (not one sided) its not considered dark magic (taking into consideration severus snape explanation of dark arts in the books)
Jude Law was an exquisite casting choice.
Wow. So I cried.
Jude Law is so magnificient in this...
But then he always is.
Dumbledore: It senses the betrayal in my heart! Were I to even think about betraying him...
*gasps chokes and writhes*
Also Dumbledore 1 minute later thinking of plan to stop him: "If we're to defeat him the Chilluns only part of it."
*nothing happens*
Haha true. This plot hole basically invalidates the entire movie.
Its complicated !
Right!!!!! I didnt think of that, huge plot hole.
Defeat and injure are different. He doesn't want to face against grindlewald but that does not mean he can't get in the way of the plan
Maybe this could be explained by saying: "well, the magic object protects them from fighting and the slightest thought of betrayal, that's precisely why I as a Dumledore need all of you so you can execute my elaborate plan to defeat him, so I don't have to do/think anything, so the bond doesn't affect me" - I wonder if that's suggested in the movie? I don't recall it, that's an easy fix to this.
Love it when Dumbledore fight with Credence
His nephew
Jude Law really did well picking up the old Dumbledore actor's mannerisms in talking and all, even subtle. Great acting here all around
Omg! Jude Law is just such a handsome man
now imagine what would happen if Snape failed to keep his unbreakable vow.
I wonder if it would’ve been painful death or swift and painless.
Both he and Narcissa would've died. I believe the same rule applies if they refuse one of the questions that come with the vow. I'd say they'd most likely die in this type of fashion.
@@SledRider-bf3ih Why would Narcissa have died? She wouldn't be the one breaking the vow.
Keep up the good work
Your title is not correct, Dumbledore is not using dark magic. He is showing Newt and Theseus what happens when he tries to fight Grindelwald. That is very different to actively using dark magic to hurt others.
It's also not wrong if blood troths are considered dark magic, since the troth is Dumbledore's magic. As far as misleading titles go, this can be considered quite accurate.
@@Isaic02 It is wrong, he is showing what happens to him if he goes against it. That isn't the same as using dark magic. It is not accurate at all. The title implies that Dumbledore is using dark magic to attack someone but he isn't.
@@cecilia8515 Assuming:
1) Dumbledore's (and Grindelwald's) magic is what created the blood troth.
2) Blood troths are created with dark magic and therefore activate using dark magic.
3) Dumbledore actively chose to activate(aka use) the blood troth.
We can come to the conclusion that Dumbledore used dark magic.
I don't consider using blood to be inherently dark regardless, but even if it was, Dumbledore never shied away from forbidden/dark magic in his studies. Though certainly he was not as learned in them as ones like Voldemort or probably Grindelwald.
@@Isaic02 1) You said you don't consider using blood as dark magic yet you are saying that is why it is dark magic, contradictory.
2) I am talking about what is happening in this scene not what Dumbledore did in the past to create the blood pact.
3) Umbridge used Harry's blood to torture him, how is that not inherently dark?
4) The correct title would be "Dumbledore showing the consequences of him going against Grindelwald" not using dark magic.
The pact had already been made, making the pact was the dark magic not showing the consequences of it.
@@cecilia8515 Respectively replying to each:
1) I said assuming blood troths are made using dark magic in both my comments, since the video poster did. If we are to *assume* they believe the title they created. If you aren't comprehending, then perhaps you should read them a few more times.
2) The blood troth moves, grows, and senses intentions and thoughts: magic is still involved. If you want to argue that the current magic is not the same magic used at it's creation, then go ahead, but not with me.
3) I would say that Umbridge's usage is considered dark magic. I previously stated, "I don't consider using blood to be inherently dark..." Umbridge's usage of blood magic was implementing torture, so yes, I consider it dark. However, making a truly binding pact is not if it is done rightfully and willfully by both parties. (Though it might be stupid.)
4) That might be a more accurate title, but that is subjective since the subject is fictional. Therefore, making the *assumptions* stated previously, as is done in any argument, experiment, and facet of life, we can conclude that others disagree. That being proof that it is subjective.
A captivating movie series. A real pity fans did not come out and let outside factors influence them. Would love to see a 4th episode to wrap things up..
Outside influence?.... The movie was incoherent
@@layton6202 yeah but the fans were al freaking out bc of the J K Rowling vs trans people scandal and then the johnny depp being fired thing. I've seen WAY worst franchise going on and on for several movies to the point of bein ridiculous (for example idk.. like Transformers movies).
So it's such a pity a not so bad franchise like this abbandoned for ourside reasons
@@giorgiasegalla1558 when you put it that way it makes sense but the movie by itself is still just badly made from the story telling aspect.
as a fan... this film and its predecessor were awfully written. Don't blame the fans for wanting better
@@layton6202 I actually think the third had way better pacing than the first two
And I find it funny now that people are saying the movies are bad but when they first came out people were praising them saying they were amazing 🙄🧐
Jude Law is a great Dumbledore, and there is some tremendous acting in this wreck of a movie.
The entire scene is down to, “are you gay, we both are.”
Which is why it’s trash
@@Cooz-h1lthat whole bracelet reminds me of him and harry and harry has to torture him with water from a dark magic clam shell😂
I wasn't big into the Potter films, but I like this series, and I'm having a hard time understanding why so many people are hating it.
A lot of the hate comes from things outside the movie. JK Rowling angered many people by stating biology is a fact. And others hate it for recasting Johnny Depp as Grindelwald. And now you have the scandals involving Ezra Miller.
Personally, while I don’t hate the FB films at all, there are still a few things that bother me:
1. Plotholes. Not really in the first film since that was a completely new world of characters and places we hadn’t seen before but once they started merging the Hogwarts world into it there started to be huuge holes and inconsistencies.
2. Characters. There are so many interesting characters with complicated backstories in the FB films but they just didn’t have time to do them justice. And then some actors didn’t wanna continue (like the actress for Nagini) so they added even more characters. Now they tried to give everyone at least some closure in FB3 which I liked but some fell very short (like Yusuf). They would’ve needed like twice as long a film to wrap everything up properly.
3. I don’t like how a lot of the magical items or beasts are introduced. They just pop up without any explanation and just as quickly disappear without adding much to the story. Take Dumbledore‘s pocket watch thing. He takes it out briefly to look at Credence then its never seen again. Could it be sth like a foeglass? Maybe but we don’t know and it doesn’t really matter either. Compare that to something like the sorting hat or the deluminator. While in HP we also rarely get to know why something works the way it does the items have a name, a backstory and a relevance in the plot. Now I get that this is actually a lot harder to do in FB bc one of the brilliant things in HP was that we were discovering the magical world alongside the students who also saw all of these things for the first time. In FB the characters are all adult experienced wizards. It would be weird if Dumbledore suddenly started explaining his spells to Newt. In FB1 it was nice because we had a similar situation with Jacob learning about magic.
But FB2 was a lot weaker imo. There were so many cool effects and amazing visuals, they had a bigger budget than HP ever had but it didn’t touch me the way HP did at all. It just didn’t have that depth to it.
And that’s exactly why I loved FB3 so much more. It’s arguably the holiest of plots and the election story line wasn’t like my top favourite but the center of the film was the Dumbledore/Grindelwald relationship and that was SO incredibly well done that I can overlook a lot of the rest. It’s why I also never minded plotholes in HP that much. For me enjoying a movie is a lot about feeling emotionally connected to it and FB3 did that very well.
…If anyone actually read this kudos 😂
You sorta answered it yourself. You weren't big into the Potter films..
That's because the Potter book characters were so well defined. Can't relate to Newt character. Didn't like him or Redmayne's portrayal. The Potter movies weren't as good as the books but due to the huge popularity of the books and perfect casting people loved the potterverse. And if it wasn't for Dumbledore the original series fans wouldn't care much about the prequels. And Johnny's Grindelwald had that maniacal glint. This guy simply has to be stated as dangerous. We wouldn't feel he is dangerous.
It was an absolute mess from an organizational standpoint, there was no character depth to anyone, and the plot was littered with missed opportunities and inconsistencies. The tone of the movies never really found its groove, and they completely brushed over what could’ve been a really good flushed out relationship between Dumbledore and Grindelwald. It seems like the studio said, “people like Dumbledore in the old movies, why change him?” He was the same wise & witty, dumbledore, just younger and hotter. I’m beyond disappointed in these films as a huge potterhead.
“Lies and secrets, we learned them at our mother’s knee .. and Albus, he was a natural”. Aberforth Dumbledore
It’s all the pain of young love, and the first betrayal.
I wish Dumbledore and Grindelwald had a moment together, Jude and Mads really convinced me that Dumbledore and Grindelwald can be shippable character
No
@@RealPalpsTheSenate Shut Up no one asked you
I wish only one film about Dumbledore and Grin. I want to see them happy!
Theseus when his brother is socially awkward and stands for magical beasts: "try to be a little bit less you."
Theseus when Dumbledore admits to being in love with an other man who happens to be the magical equivalent of Hitler when society at the time was firmly homophobic: "this is fine."
His brother is super uncomfortable. They should’ve picked a different actor
@@jd0879 Honestly, I'm pretty sure it's more of a writing issue. Characters in Fantastic beasts are really flat outside of Newt, Jacob, Dumbledore and Grindelwald.
@@jd0879 that's what his character is. i am not 100 percent sure but i guess i heard/read somewhere that newt is also going through autism. so, it adds up to his character.
now, personally speaking, newt is my favourite! :)
eddie acted amazingly.
Grindelwald is probably more Himmler or thr other notorious SS Officers more so than Hitler himself as Voldermort is more Hitler like than he is. Probably more Stalin like even or a mixture.
@@jd0879 I can tell you haven't seen the theory of everything, he's just as good as DiCaprio
"If you agree to do this, you have to trust me. Even if every instinct in your body tells you not to. ❤
Pretty much sums up his way of dealing with things. He told Harry very little about how to succeed in hunting horcruxes, he left the trio to sort out problems themselves. He told Harry to force him to drink the potion in the cave. He asked Snape to support and carry out his plans even if he was unsure about them.
ahhh, the line where dumbledore said to trust him, reminiscing the half blood prince movie where harry and dumbledore went to the cave
this movie doesnt deserve the 6.2 rating in imdb, should be much higher than that
miss so much this saga, need at least one more film to close....
Can't wait for the final fight between dumbledore and grindelwald
it wasn't as exciting as i thought it would be still good though just a bit anti-climatic
@@selenemotoko it wasn't the final fight. It was the beginning.
I liked the part where Dumbledore uses dark magic.
That little vial _is_ the dark magic. I haven't even seen this movie, and that seems pretty obvious to me. It's _a little_ misleading, since the actual spell was performed years ago, but what we're seeing is _the evidence_ of dark magic he once performed. I mean, that chain trying to rip his arm off and strangle him to death seems pretty damn dark to me.
I used to hate the series because the internet told me to. I watched them all a few days ago and for the sake of enjoying it, I stopped seeing it through the criticism and they really were good. I like Mikkelsen better as Grindelwald, his Grindelwald is more charismatically political, his chemistry with Jude Law was sensual. He brought maturity to the series instead of gimmicks. What happened to Depp was tragic and I’m not saying I hated his version but when everyone attacking Mikkelsen seemed so childish. The cancellation of the series was such a betrayal to the fandom. I wish they revive it one day in my lifetime. 😢
I love Johnny Depp as Grindelwald. But its a lot easier to picture young Mads and young Jude together as the young wizard duo than Jude and Johnny.
Yes. Although I'm upset at how they treated Johnny, but tbf gotta admit that they made a great decision to replace him with Mads
In the scene where dumbledore and credence meet on the street and have a little fight, i thought dumbledore used legillimency on credence as the space they are in is something other than the real world and dumbledore seems to be in control of it.
These movies had the potential to be amazing
It’s a shame they r not doing anymore films 😮😮😮😮😢😢😢😢
Jude Law is perfect as young dulbl..And that locket seems to be wound around his corporal body as well !
Wow dumbledore’s in love 😍 with the bad guy who saw that coming 😳
JK Rowling confirmed it after the seventh Harry Potter book came out, because it was hinted at in the 7th book. The 7th movie did not portray the Grindelwald scene well, so I think that’s why it was surprising for people who did not read the books.
@@dreamergirl6017 I believe she wrote it in a script for film 5 or 6 as a side not that Dumbledore was gay. When she read on the script that Dumbledore knew a girl once that he fancied.
It’s been well known for like 15 years.
In fiction, I like the concept of good in love with bad. Of course things might not start out bad for one of them, but its nice to see. Makes a very compelling and interesting story.
@Real Deal how?? I love there relationship
Dumbledore was always dipping his wand into the dark stuff.
Did not expect to see the Doctor and the Master in this other world... It looked like Dumbledore was having problems regenerating.
Come on! Make Fantastic Beasts 4!
nobody:
newt scamander in the background of every scene: 🧍♂️
I still think the reason Dumbledore gives Harry in Kings’ Cross during ‘Deathly Hallows,’ is a far better reason as to why Dumbledore did not move against Grindelwald earlier. He told Harry, he was afraid of finding out which one of them killed his sister. It makes a far more emotional and compelling reason without making a McGuffin out of the story.
It doesn't have to be. Towards the end of his life, Dumbledore still loved Grindlewald, even if he nearly destroyed the world. Even if the blood troth existed then, Dumbledore would still be afraid to find out. Even if it's true Grindlewald killed his sister, he can't actually hate him because he still loves him.
Best one out of the three
I Agree 🪄
Definitely
It’s a good movie 🍿
so true
so basically the blood pact is a magical prenup
troth - noun plight/pledge your troth an old phrase meaning ' to promise to get married to someone'
I can't get enough of Jude law facial hair
So dumbledore continues to remain spectacularly ineffective not only in his old age but throughout his entire life.
at least this time he leaves it up to grown adults rather than a pubescent boy.
I love this movie so much. It makes me so happy.
This movie is trash...The worst movie in the harry potter franchise yet
@@saimah1832 I disagree completely and FB isn't apart of harry potter
@@IgnatiaWildsmith1227 tell me one good thing u liked about this movie? boring plotline about magic world politics? no secrets of dumbledore revealed ? almost zero screen time on magical beasts? stupid plot armors?
@@saimah1832 I personally liked all the new magical governments and the politics. A significant amount of the movie was about one of the beasts the 2 qilins. Dumbledores "secrets" was his gay relationship with grindelwald, him possibly being the cause of his sisters death, temptation with the dark arts, and credence being his nephew
@@IgnatiaWildsmith1227 Did you know they made it so they could cut it out for the sake of showing it in China? It was done so that it didnt affect the plot. Ridiculous.
God I love Jude Law
Couldn't have said it better myself :)
Can't wait for dvd in a week or so and it comes out at my bday I am getting the single disc version
This is one of the best scenes in the movie
I love Newt and Theseus, they are so kind and wise beyond their years!
1:48 Chills
Don't forget to commend the fact that Jude Law's speech is tailored after the first dumbledore actor, you can hear it in how he pronounces his words, and the mannerisms too!
They should make a tv show about Voldemorts rise to power - the tv show or movies should end with him killling Harry’s mom and him dying - come full circle-
Show a young black, lupin, Snape, etc
The wand...
Dumbledores wand...
And Grindlewalds wand...
No matter how bad most auto-proclaimed online critics deemed the fantastic beasts franchise to be, we, at least, really deserved to see the five films completed in order to witness the greatest wizard duel of all time. I admit it was far from perfect but the public opinion should’ve overlooked those little errors in order to encourage the producers to go on with it. But no, the HP extremist fans publicly chose to destroy a good project that deserved an ending.
It took me a few watches to realize (not sure if this was obvious to everyone but me), but the way the blood troth is wrapped around Dumbledore's arm resembles an Unbreakable Vow. So either the blood troth was a precursor to the creation of the Unbreakable Vow, or it's a variation if it that has a different set of regulations
I really wish they would complete this series. At least give us one more movie to finish things.
Man i hope they make a 4th one
They are. It's 5 movies, we're on the 3rd.
@@GameoftheYear-fx4mq WB said it depends on performance n reviews of the 3rd one if they continue n it did the least best box office wise so theres a chance it might not go ahead :(
@@A_Vermy well it doesn't matter how much it made, it's still Harry Potter, J.K Rowling is rich enough to make the rest of the movies possible regardless of how much box office. Same for star wars how after episode 8, another movie was still made.
They have five originally planned, which sounds crazy but I hope it gets done. I'm just really interested in the story, but I would like to see movies that deal with post Harry Potter. There's just too much going backwards with the Wizarding World:
-Hogwarts Mystery (Mobile game set just after The Potters death).
-Fantastic Beasts (set before Harry's story).
-Hogwarts Legacy (upcoming next generation console game set in 1800s Wizarding World). Just to name a few examples. Still hoping for more Fantastic Beasts. At least until they finish the story.
@@b.y.o.p.9035 the original cast said they're tired of HP. Emma doesn't act anymore too
I wanted to point out that the movies probably made Theseus look worse than he is, like how he was captured at that event.
He is the Head of the British auror office. Which means says to me he is on the same level with Moody.
we need Fantastic Beasts 4 and 5
Tbh when i read the original books they just seemed like close friends brought together by their respective genius.
I read them so much they fell apart so it confused me when rowling said they were gay.
HBO MAX 💜 💯👍 💯 👍💯
So did we find out that the fan theory that grindirold is alive and is just living dumbledoors house lol
A clever way for brothers-in-arms to not fight each other even if there was a chance to fight each other in the future.
He isn’t using Dark magic. He is only harboring ill intent against grindelwald which at the same time makes the blood oath react.
gosh i would so much love if they started a new franchise similar to Harry Potter.
Law embodies Dumbledore.🧔♀
He almost makes it feel like his character really grew into Gambon's one. 🧙🏼♂
Darkest of all Dark Magics: Amber's Turdus!!!
this is the "windows vista" of all the HP and FB movies
Poor Doctor Watson. After defeating Blackwood he became fascinated with Blackwoods Scribblings. Now, he became the very thing he hated.
I want this movie with grinder world as Jhonny depp
love this movie so much.
Profesor Dumbledore 😢❤
good to see jude after that gold movie and arthur king
its still crazy that I have the same name as Theseus' actor's name and I see it in the credits like I was in it xD
This movie made me cry and cry and cry help