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  • @soleillouise8955
    @soleillouise8955 3 роки тому +18198

    "homosexuals, transgenders, and people who break the speed limit" ah yes, the htpwbtsl community

    • @joshmeadows4067
      @joshmeadows4067 3 роки тому +929

      How is this not the top comment I'M DEAD hahahahaha

    • @imawesomepersonDERP
      @imawesomepersonDERP 3 роки тому +164

      LMAO

    • @booorue4876
      @booorue4876 3 роки тому +525

      I don't appreciate how hard this made me laugh.

    • @veronievicky
      @veronievicky 3 роки тому +195

      this comment wins on so many levels XD

    • @ChicoCabra
      @ChicoCabra 3 роки тому +22

      @@joshmeadows4067 Agreed

  • @elijahdaves1305
    @elijahdaves1305 6 місяців тому +3130

    "If we take the Bible literally, everyone in this room is sinning." Um...yes. That's literally the whole point.

  • @soy.ingrid
    @soy.ingrid 7 місяців тому +1237

    “That’s a lot of self-control” the fruit of the Spirit is self-control 😂

    • @taonanosihlez5268
      @taonanosihlez5268 6 місяців тому +44

      thats what i thought as well😂, like we are meant to bear the fruits of the Spirit

    • @kadianedobor1715
      @kadianedobor1715 6 місяців тому +12

      Nothing wrong with complimenting that in a brethren.

    • @Drowning_Girl
      @Drowning_Girl 4 місяці тому +4

      Excellent observation.

    • @len-1768
      @len-1768 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@taonanosihlez5268*fruit. If it's fruits, we'll end up cherry-picking which traits to have and which ones to reject. We need all nine traits together.

    • @MargaretCutt-um8iq
      @MargaretCutt-um8iq 14 днів тому +2

      exactly, and part of being Christian is being able to live beyond self. We fail but must strive to do better.

  • @lamis5348
    @lamis5348 8 місяців тому +234

    Watching as a non American, I think half the problem is there has been a mixture with faith and politics.

    • @user-nc8yb7uq6q
      @user-nc8yb7uq6q 4 місяці тому +13

      Watching this as a Catholic is a very different experience

    • @ranYRMOM
      @ranYRMOM 3 місяці тому +1

      so true

    • @jessebartunek3195
      @jessebartunek3195 20 днів тому

      Wow, as an American Protestant that is converting to Catholicism I see this so now that I would have a few years ago.

  • @nick-andrewvath5045
    @nick-andrewvath5045 2 роки тому +14163

    They pull out Bible verses like it's a rap battle

  • @alicethemadrabbit1842
    @alicethemadrabbit1842 3 роки тому +9677

    "Oh, he's gay... What a twist!"
    "Oh, she's gay... What a twist!"
    "Oh, he's gay too?? What a twist!"

    • @Melissa-gh6wg
      @Melissa-gh6wg 3 роки тому +427

      LMFAO FACTS

    • @ChonosTack
      @ChonosTack 3 роки тому +2551

      The black conservative gay guy is interesting, but also really sad.

    • @deseann1591
      @deseann1591 3 роки тому +990

      ChonosTack yeah it’s another way of how religion kind of blackmails you as in either you live in a box your whole life or you go to hell. That sounds like blackmail to me

    • @unda2147
      @unda2147 3 роки тому +90

      Spoiler alert?!?!??

    • @sharonolatunbosun7098
      @sharonolatunbosun7098 3 роки тому +20

      @@deseann1591 true

  • @ebbypetes
    @ebbypetes 9 місяців тому +1645

    Conservative Christian= bible based
    Progressive Christian= feelings based.

    • @michaelplauche9901
      @michaelplauche9901 6 місяців тому +1

      I agree with this. Progressive christians to me sound like lukewarm Christians because they want to go by their personal feelings and not the bible with their choices.

    • @briahumble1858
      @briahumble1858 5 місяців тому +33

      Yes

    • @BennetDee
      @BennetDee 5 місяців тому +37

      That’s the most beautiful thing I’ve ever heard 😂

    • @ethandollarhide7943
      @ethandollarhide7943 5 місяців тому +127

      More like:
      Progressive Christian: Believes in Freedom
      Conservative Christian: Believes in Theocracy.

    • @jcc.21
      @jcc.21 4 місяці тому

      @@theprospect5888wym incorrect 😂

  • @arcyknows
    @arcyknows 6 місяців тому +683

    “You already have an agenda & your trying to fit the Bible into that agenda instead of accepting the Gospel for what it is.” Perfectly said.

    • @sallygirl1012
      @sallygirl1012 4 місяці тому +13

      My agenda came after I started reading the Bible. How can you follow something that contradicts itself consistently. The Bible is full of human sin.

    • @cetsy2023
      @cetsy2023 4 місяці тому +2

      How?

    • @w4rsh1p
      @w4rsh1p 3 місяці тому +4

      And what it is is a hateful violent disturbing book that we know cannot be true.

    • @christopherpearson2116
      @christopherpearson2116 3 місяці тому

      Well, it endorses (for life, too) slavery, for one...
      Also, captive brides... in several cases.
      And as for how... censuses... are handled: In 2 Samuel 24...? Odd. Macabre.@@cetsy2023

    • @MCKingM4RTIN
      @MCKingM4RTIN 2 місяці тому +17

      @@sallygirl1012there are no contradictions

  • @kaitllynmcnerney8364
    @kaitllynmcnerney8364 3 роки тому +5327

    “People in the church hurt you, not God.”

    • @sxmone2018
      @sxmone2018 3 роки тому +77

      God made those people that hurt you

    • @glodimvovi2345
      @glodimvovi2345 3 роки тому +569

      @@sxmone2018 he didn’t make them hurt anyone people have free will they chose to hurt

    • @jasminemurillo903
      @jasminemurillo903 3 роки тому +25

      Saucy Buckets32 god made those people have the free will to choose so yes god made those people hurt you.

    • @glodimvovi2345
      @glodimvovi2345 3 роки тому +231

      @@jasminemurillo903 he didn’t make them to hurt, he made people and gave them the option to choose. If they choose to hurt, they chose to hurt, if they choose to do good they chose to do good

    • @Neon_Distortion
      @Neon_Distortion 3 роки тому +42

      @@sxmone2018 more like satan

  • @richardlew3667
    @richardlew3667 3 роки тому +8905

    To my fellow Americans. God is not a Republican nor is He a Democrat because He is not an American!

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 3 роки тому +83

      It's depressing to see you struggle with the two party system over 70 years after approving Fashisem retardend pluralistic more representative systems and having security reports on them.

    • @declangorman4290
      @declangorman4290 3 роки тому +269

      idk about god but Jesus was definitely a socialist, if not a communist

    • @independent_bully_maguire9320
      @independent_bully_maguire9320 3 роки тому +1

      yep.

    • @independent_bully_maguire9320
      @independent_bully_maguire9320 3 роки тому +46

      @@declangorman4290 nope he would probably be Libertarian.

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 3 роки тому +42

      @@independent_bully_maguire9320 the whole "follow the law (of the land, temple and being subservient)" parts do not fit that.
      Not to mention the "give and your will receive".

  • @Miyykael
    @Miyykael 6 місяців тому +191

    Omg that line "I have desires and Inclinations to follow the voice of the Lord!" That sent me what a line

    • @j.keshie
      @j.keshie День тому

      Such a great way to put it

  • @user-ps2ic2xp3z
    @user-ps2ic2xp3z 8 місяців тому +168

    It’s crazy how true the Bible is when it says ‘Many will come to me and say “Lord, Lord, did we not cast out demons in your name?’ And I will say ‘Depart from me, you evil doers”. It’s sad 😞 but it’s true.

    • @jonathananderson699
      @jonathananderson699 4 місяці тому

      Just proving that this book is filled with lies because it wants people to constantly never know where they stand and to live in fear

    • @jorgealbertobruno10
      @jorgealbertobruno10 Місяць тому +1

      I was thinking about the same verse towards the end of this video.

  • @PINQINQ
    @PINQINQ 3 роки тому +5690

    These dudes spitting versus like it’s a rap battle

    • @BLJ023
      @BLJ023 3 роки тому +201

      Ok!!... I'm over here like.." Oh no he didn't ", "you better say that", "finish him" lol.

    • @pjschaaf414
      @pjschaaf414 3 роки тому +20

      💀

    • @pauljones6629
      @pauljones6629 3 роки тому +7

      😂😂😂😂

    • @ziggystardust2435
      @ziggystardust2435 3 роки тому +60

      @Luke Monsensey yes there was...? lol

    • @LeeKnowsCatss
      @LeeKnowsCatss 3 роки тому +33

      Bible study is like that at my church lol

  • @katiesbothers
    @katiesbothers 3 роки тому +16202

    "People in the church hurt you, not God." - Oof that struck a chord.

    • @HoodedSpidey
      @HoodedSpidey 3 роки тому +250

      For arguments sake, humans hurt you outside the church too. As an omnipotent being, is God hurting you by not preventing your harm?

    • @masochistic_lele4414
      @masochistic_lele4414 3 роки тому +297

      I just feel the building doesn’t matter. It’s the relationship with god.

    • @Hello-qf3fd
      @Hello-qf3fd 3 роки тому +972

      @@HoodedSpidey The simple answer is that God gave us free will. That means we as humans can use that free will to do harm or to do good. We just can't _blame_ God for our actions because we have autonomy.

    • @elysian8823
      @elysian8823 3 роки тому +2

      righty

    • @Dina-vy7we
      @Dina-vy7we 3 роки тому +57

      @@Hello-qf3fd exactly

  • @Pollyanna4123
    @Pollyanna4123 8 місяців тому +242

    This was the most calm and respectful middle ground I’ve watched😂

  • @wham1984
    @wham1984 8 місяців тому +1446

    I’m so glad Angel and Jason are standing firm and speaking truth! Excited to meet them one day

    • @rangariraikunedzimwe2780
      @rangariraikunedzimwe2780 7 місяців тому

      They're NOT! They are terrified of the LGBTQ community 🏃‍♂️💨💨

    • @Xxx-ei6ff
      @Xxx-ei6ff 7 місяців тому +18

      The black Jeffrey Dahmer is annoying

    • @Dan-jp8jr
      @Dan-jp8jr 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Xxx-ei6ffwhy

    • @kailah7812
      @kailah7812 6 місяців тому +5

      @@Xxx-ei6ff😂😂😂

    • @toddyboi7898
      @toddyboi7898 5 місяців тому +2

      Amen

  • @fd6864
    @fd6864 3 роки тому +4816

    "homosexuals, transgenders, people who break the speed limit..." when i tell you i screamed aloud

  • @sliceofyourlyfe5794
    @sliceofyourlyfe5794 2 роки тому +11121

    The Asian woman in this video asked why are divorced people allowed to participate in the church when the bible says they shouldn't but homosexuals are barred? No one answered her question, everyone just blew over it.

    • @emberwilliams8902
      @emberwilliams8902 2 роки тому +2165

      And it was one of the strongest points of that conversation too...They couldn't address it without breaking down their own hypocrisy.

    • @kaluoji4415
      @kaluoji4415 2 роки тому +620

      Because divorce is allowed in christianity, in the case of adultery.
      Therefore, if a person gets a divorce because they couldn't continue their marriage because their spouse cheated on them (or the other way round), then they can still serve in the church.

    • @p0rnany0ne
      @p0rnany0ne 2 роки тому +331

      @@kaluoji4415 why is divorce allowed when it is clearly condemned in the Bible?

    • @isopoika256
      @isopoika256 2 роки тому +555

      @@p0rnany0ne Matthew 19:9 (ESV) And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery. Note that Jesus does not say this is the only reason for divorce. We find other reasons for divorce in Scripture.

    • @Carolina_Berean
      @Carolina_Berean 2 роки тому +88

      This is what I always bring up and them same thing happens. People just ignore it.

  • @cdpyouth
    @cdpyouth 8 місяців тому +306

    "I have a tendency to follow the voice of the Lord" 🔥🔥🔥

    • @michaelrogers3857
      @michaelrogers3857 2 місяці тому +2

      Bars

    • @darenrrful
      @darenrrful Місяць тому +4

      if youre hearing things, seek mental help

    • @cdpyouth
      @cdpyouth Місяць тому +5

      ​@darenrrful ok....keep that same energy when they come identifying as xyz...

  • @DJ_Orangutan
    @DJ_Orangutan 7 місяців тому +886

    Angel and Jason being the only ones able to quote scripture says everything.

    • @Ni-wl9uh
      @Ni-wl9uh 5 місяців тому +13

      What about the mysoginystic verses in the bible?

    • @obedmartinez5825
      @obedmartinez5825 5 місяців тому +2

      💯💯💯

    • @Djr127
      @Djr127 5 місяців тому +41

      @@Ni-wl9uhwhich ones?

    • @pythondrink
      @pythondrink 5 місяців тому

      ​@@Djr127hang on

    • @GottesgrosszuegigeGnade
      @GottesgrosszuegigeGnade 4 місяці тому +6

      ​​@@pythondrink ​@Ni-wl9uh when are they coming? There are non

  • @stefano215
    @stefano215 Рік тому +5944

    They were trading bible verses like it’s a rap battle 😩

    • @prodby.kansha
      @prodby.kansha Рік тому +35

      🤣

    • @inactivetiffany3772
      @inactivetiffany3772 Рік тому +80

      Bars 😂

    • @eaglementality1204
      @eaglementality1204 Рік тому

      So I watched the one with conservative/liberal Muslims….
      Comment section:
      I love how he knows the Quran and is able to recite it . Wish I knew (and could quote) the Bible the same
      Christians do the same:
      Oh, you’re weaponizing the scriptures against people and using them like rap battles

    • @caligurl8770
      @caligurl8770 Рік тому +18

      Yeah 😅

    • @bluebellbeatnik4945
      @bluebellbeatnik4945 Рік тому +48

      they need to do a hamilton musical of this

  • @oliviak9978
    @oliviak9978 3 роки тому +85588

    I can’t believe Jubilee filmed my family getting together for the holidays

  • @E.j-
    @E.j- 6 місяців тому +33

    Yall need to put Cliff Knetchle in one of these😂

  • @bvumazonke
    @bvumazonke 8 місяців тому +147

    Jason and Angel ATE

    • @khunli7
      @khunli7 8 місяців тому +12

      PERIOD, THEY SECURED THE BAGGG

    • @TZ19999
      @TZ19999 10 днів тому

      Lmao no. Seek help.

  • @rodelremolana1155
    @rodelremolana1155 3 роки тому +3372

    I can imagine them taking a shower, regretting about the arguments they could have said

    • @nataly4426
      @nataly4426 3 роки тому +40

      THISSS!

    • @erenjaeger1738
      @erenjaeger1738 3 роки тому +17

      @@nataly4426 ur pfp say it all. "PERIOD"

    • @manualLaborer
      @manualLaborer 3 роки тому +23

      or maybe they brought a mic to drop, but didn't say anything cool enough

    • @HiHello-cw9vc
      @HiHello-cw9vc 3 роки тому +3

      IKRR

    • @nataly4426
      @nataly4426 3 роки тому +2

      @@erenjaeger1738 PURRR LMFAOAO

  • @RoninDurey
    @RoninDurey 3 роки тому +3447

    when the conservative told everyone he was lowkey gay OOP... THIS EPISODE IS CRAZYYYYYYY

    • @alexcarlton4172
      @alexcarlton4172 3 роки тому +541

      He's totally closeted, the deniers are usually gay ooh LMAOO

    • @woah7066
      @woah7066 3 роки тому +177

      I deadass lost it

    • @roberthernandez5334
      @roberthernandez5334 3 роки тому +319

      Lmaoooo, I knew it too, I was like, homie is gay, I’m so sad for him

    • @ebonyy5248
      @ebonyy5248 3 роки тому +37

      @@roberthernandez5334 why are u sad for him?

    • @MsAqaqSwsw
      @MsAqaqSwsw 3 роки тому +197

      I’m a same-sex attracted to Christian and I found deliverance and freedom and joy and peace that everyone searches for through Jesus. It’s very so possible that he will be just fine if he keeps his faith in God. 🤗

  • @TheJayKellz
    @TheJayKellz 7 місяців тому +47

    To be honest this conversation could have been alot longer with more biblical context underlining each major discourse

  • @emiliodelvalle4093
    @emiliodelvalle4093 9 місяців тому +314

    The point that Ángel defends is that basing life around desire and impulses leads us to an empty life, because the heart is insatiable, the more you satisfy its desires, the more it wants

    • @Acts-238
      @Acts-238 8 місяців тому +27

      Yes the Bible says lust is never fulfilled.

    • @kolawoleabimbola2264
      @kolawoleabimbola2264 8 місяців тому +10

      The Bible is the standard 💯

    • @ThiccBoi23
      @ThiccBoi23 8 місяців тому +1

      Delusional

    • @Visionsofyvonne
      @Visionsofyvonne 8 місяців тому +3

      😮‍💨 i think you said it best

    • @Nisikaa_
      @Nisikaa_ 7 місяців тому +2

      Aren't you then still trying to fulfill an overall desire for a full life?

  • @sirTina
    @sirTina 3 роки тому +29945

    Ciara was just like “homosexuality is a sin” and then Curt was like “so anyways my husband and I” I’m dead asf 😭😂
    Edit: I do not indorse any kind of homophobia or discrimination of the LGBTQ+ community. Keep your hateful comments to yourself.

  • @Honeycoupe
    @Honeycoupe Рік тому +3279

    "Born again Christians vs Ex-Christians" would be a great episode.

    • @gracenartey4830
      @gracenartey4830 Рік тому +36

      💯 … just waiting for that

    • @realtalkwithphil
      @realtalkwithphil Рік тому +6

      Yup

    • @marsjokes
      @marsjokes Рік тому +3

      Still waiting

    • @marsjokes
      @marsjokes Рік тому +3

      It would be interesting to have @Gothix on the Born Again side too

    • @Honeycoupe
      @Honeycoupe Рік тому +4

      @@marsjokes and @Jaclyn on the Ex Christians side.

  • @Mattmaxi
    @Mattmaxi 8 місяців тому +8

    Wow, I think talks like this should be held often...
    It's beautiful to behold...
    It's so not aggressive, the answers came in softly, and gentle. And every bit of it came out nice.
    Thank you

  • @chryztyn24q
    @chryztyn24q 8 місяців тому +38

    I love how free, unbiased and unafraid discussions of very sensitive topics are in Jubilee in it’s entirety not just on this video 🙏🙌🎉

  • @hellriser__
    @hellriser__ 3 роки тому +2400

    LMAO ciara saying "i can't say you're going to hell because i don't know your relationship with god" compared to the other conservative dude who straight said "no offense you're going to hell"

    • @drhemaword
      @drhemaword 3 роки тому +57

      And he is if he's living in sin....... Duhhhhhhh

    • @gladiator8325
      @gladiator8325 3 роки тому +52

      It’s easy to determine if someone’s heading to hell by their doctrine

    • @TheWeekndsFan
      @TheWeekndsFan 3 роки тому +1

      @@drhemaword Wdym Yes living in sin?

    • @panacea26947
      @panacea26947 3 роки тому +76

      You can't be progressive and christian at the same time lmao

    • @user-gh5hu8mh2q
      @user-gh5hu8mh2q 3 роки тому +7

      @@panacea26947 YES!

  • @taliyah2639
    @taliyah2639 3 роки тому +5743

    The bald man is so calm and he makes me feel so safe 😂

    • @Slawsers
      @Slawsers 3 роки тому +87

      Making me turn gay

    • @cauliflower2003
      @cauliflower2003 3 роки тому +346

      Sameee his voice felt like a warm hug 🤗

    • @kanine_2550
      @kanine_2550 3 роки тому +3

      That's a tad sus m8

    • @kittennight3305
      @kittennight3305 3 роки тому +6

      @@Slawsers I get that lol

    • @taliyah2639
      @taliyah2639 3 роки тому +5

      @@cauliflower2003 yessss it felt exactly like that

  • @justarandomweeb4234
    @justarandomweeb4234 8 місяців тому +99

    20:02 I believe that when you’re able to straight up say that you don’t believe certain parts of the Bible then you have a big issue

    • @Megalaglag
      @Megalaglag Місяць тому +4

      Yup, she is a heretic

    • @Estherokuwa
      @Estherokuwa Місяць тому

      That’s craaaaaazy

    • @originalslicey
      @originalslicey 27 днів тому +2

      I don't know who all needs to hear this, but THE BIBLE IS NOT LITERAL.

    • @UrMom-jq8my
      @UrMom-jq8my 27 днів тому

      @@originalslicey Of course most parts aren't, but that doesn't take away its absolute credibility.

    • @Kevintendo
      @Kevintendo 14 днів тому +2

      Many Christians believe lots of the Bible is metaphorical, allegorical, etc.. 7 days of creation, anyone?

  • @joselinlopez4457
    @joselinlopez4457 9 місяців тому +7

    I think it the only video I have seen in people have different beliefs and talking about it so peaceful

  • @Marilynefc
    @Marilynefc 3 роки тому +3494

    “The people in the church hurt me. God did not hurt me” 🥺❤️

    • @Pseudynom
      @Pseudynom 3 роки тому +80

      The only way to stop a bad guy with a god is a good guy with a god.

    • @DanLuxe
      @DanLuxe 3 роки тому +86

      Atheist here.
      Same. That got me.

    • @elijahtrent21
      @elijahtrent21 3 роки тому +13

      Praise God

    • @wiswc
      @wiswc 3 роки тому +5

      Can we ban emojis already?!

    • @cocoajames5
      @cocoajames5 3 роки тому +65

      right. i feel like people group the members of the church with God themselves and it ruins the message. that's why a lot of people that have met bad christians end up hating God and the religion itself and not the people. 😔

  • @gracienorris7775
    @gracienorris7775 3 роки тому +4868

    “it was the people who hurt you in the church not God” wow that really hit me

    • @xadielplasencia3674
      @xadielplasencia3674 3 роки тому +70

      The people are the only ones there, so... Who did you expect?

    • @carsonbrooks1326
      @carsonbrooks1326 3 роки тому +25

      @@xadielplasencia3674 ok man, if people want to believe that way, let them

    • @saigie3908
      @saigie3908 3 роки тому +249

      I loved that quote. Ppl need to stop holding God to a human standard

    • @xadielplasencia3674
      @xadielplasencia3674 3 роки тому +6

      @@carsonbrooks1326 I agree, till that starts affecting me.

    • @carsonbrooks1326
      @carsonbrooks1326 3 роки тому +23

      @@xadielplasencia3674 the second it affected you was when you clicked on this video and the moment you started typing in the comments.

  • @kaitlincampbell2405
    @kaitlincampbell2405 6 місяців тому +6

    That’s got to be the most civil and mature Middle Ground I’ve ever seen❤

  • @gerard7417
    @gerard7417 7 місяців тому +43

    Angel and Jason are my favorite they spoke facts and fighting against evil hidden in plain sight , respectfully ofc , no doubt. Lol .

  • @fishels3895
    @fishels3895 3 роки тому +17356

    Do conservative atheists vs liberal Christians lol

    • @theglutton1815
      @theglutton1815 3 роки тому +171

      I’ve meet those lol

    • @hazel6323
      @hazel6323 3 роки тому +1029

      I would pay so much to see that.

    • @chriscraig6353
      @chriscraig6353 3 роки тому +534

      Wait no cus that would be so crazy but yes let's do it

    • @dariusd2003
      @dariusd2003 3 роки тому +550

      Wow that's an interesting dynamic. I'd be curious what each camp believes and how they defend their viewpoints.

    • @brandontrammel4581
      @brandontrammel4581 3 роки тому +63

      I'm liberal Christian or progressive

  • @mothernature6790
    @mothernature6790 3 роки тому +3947

    Me an atheist: This is interesting *clicks*

    • @aeron9730
      @aeron9730 3 роки тому +174

      me an agnostic HAHAHAH this is entertaining 😂🤣😭

    • @wonderlandbunny8160
      @wonderlandbunny8160 3 роки тому +181

      Me a nothing specific, I'm here to get angry at religious people again.

    • @anarchistonsunsetdrive7813
      @anarchistonsunsetdrive7813 3 роки тому +85

      I can't believe religion is even significant. Like really, let it go.

    • @younggoat9846
      @younggoat9846 3 роки тому +95

      @@anarchistonsunsetdrive7813 ....what? Are you ok? Like legit question I’m atheist but that sentence had to be a joke right?

    • @anarchistonsunsetdrive7813
      @anarchistonsunsetdrive7813 3 роки тому +7

      @@younggoat9846 what made you think that?

  • @Jessica-gs1hv
    @Jessica-gs1hv Місяць тому +1

    Angel is very brave. I'm so glad I found this video!

  • @sheekyking
    @sheekyking 8 місяців тому +4

    Jason always made me cry 🥹

  • @rashidalhassoun8368
    @rashidalhassoun8368 3 роки тому +16911

    this is probably the only channel on youtube where sensitive topics like this can be discussed without world war three happening

    • @ihavenousername6340
      @ihavenousername6340 3 роки тому +585

      The comments may have to disagree with that World war three part

    • @lovernotafighter6942
      @lovernotafighter6942 3 роки тому +372

      true but then the comment section can get messy.

    • @fos1451
      @fos1451 3 роки тому +55

      You forgot to read the comment buddy?

    • @kelz4965
      @kelz4965 3 роки тому +119

      Except the vegan and flat earthers
      Then yes

    • @myaschultheis3004
      @myaschultheis3004 3 роки тому +3

      agreed 😂

  • @imalwayspanicking
    @imalwayspanicking 3 роки тому +1862

    “People in the church hurt you, not God.” THAT. I love that.

    • @kovanashae1762
      @kovanashae1762 3 роки тому +35

      They use god to hurt you so I see where they’re coming from as a Christian.

    • @Eddie-oy6hv
      @Eddie-oy6hv 3 роки тому +9

      AMennnn!!!!💛💛💛💛

    • @tinybubs6145
      @tinybubs6145 3 роки тому +10

      Curt is my new favorite person

    • @charl7346
      @charl7346 3 роки тому +35

      @@kovanashae1762 You know who else was hurt by religious people? Jesus. He was killed by them. He didn't blame God for the things men did to him.

    • @KenWBO
      @KenWBO 3 роки тому +7

      Now that I think about it. That’s a key point many people don’t seem to realize...

  • @deadaccount6004
    @deadaccount6004 5 місяців тому +79

    I was a progressive/liberal christian before, but then I became conservative, not only because I started to read more bible, but because I knew I was in the wrong side.

    • @sallygirl1012
      @sallygirl1012 4 місяці тому +10

      The more I read the Bible the less I want to follow it. Contradiction after contradiction. Yet you choose to ignore it for the sake of your agenda.

    • @lenoirsolo1978
      @lenoirsolo1978 4 місяці тому +6

      You say that but then you quite literally do not understand it. Yet, I bet you’ve contradicted yourself but in similar fashion to what you claim “you ignore it”.

    • @corwynprice1065
      @corwynprice1065 2 місяці тому +4

      @@sallygirl1012 what contradictions might that be?

    • @hiyves9880
      @hiyves9880 2 місяці тому +2

      @@sallygirl1012 why not give us some examples if theres so many

    • @phi4721
      @phi4721 Місяць тому

      ​@@sallygirl1012 human beings are contradictory, should I stop being human?

  • @SavyMarie20
    @SavyMarie20 Місяць тому

    This was a very enlightening video for me.

  • @buttercruffie
    @buttercruffie 3 роки тому +15067

    im not religious but im kinda lowkey impressed at how they can memorize and just reference random verses

    • @Godzilladad
      @Godzilladad 3 роки тому +1028

      You would too, if you read the Bible every day

    • @hannah.liu.04
      @hannah.liu.04 3 роки тому +365

      @Kaleela Edwards john 3:16 be like

    • @yes2542
      @yes2542 3 роки тому +661

      It’s a lot easier than it seems. Especially when the same verses are preached week after week

    • @berkozkan3922
      @berkozkan3922 3 роки тому +140

      Just looks like someone wasting precious time bruh

    • @assholebyginger
      @assholebyginger 3 роки тому +158

      @@Godzilladad I've read my own holy book several times from a young age, I cannot recite verses 😭 Btw I've never stopped reading it, I read like three or so pages every day of the working week (so not weekends) I've been doing this since I was 12

  • @someonee5084
    @someonee5084 2 роки тому +8246

    Her saying being gay is a sin and him immediately afterwards saying he's gay is weirly hilarious and sad.

    • @weirdlanguageguy
      @weirdlanguageguy 2 роки тому +516

      having gay tendancies, or tendancies towards anything believed to be wrong, isnt a sin. Engaging in those things are

    • @kamusta3446
      @kamusta3446 2 роки тому +735

      @@weirdlanguageguy So your saying Heterosexuals can marry, adopt kids, make love. while Homosexuals just stand there like a statue?
      What the actual hell is wrong with your brain?

    • @jadenphilander8799
      @jadenphilander8799 2 роки тому +338

      @@kamusta3446 So when I have an impulse to drink, it is a natural impulse but to act on it and get drunk is a sin. So the life of a christian, muslim, jew is also about trying to control your impulses.

    • @kamusta3446
      @kamusta3446 2 роки тому +310

      @@jadenphilander8799 So your saying not to treat LGBT people as equal?
      what is also wrong with your brain?

    • @dalsegno7001
      @dalsegno7001 2 роки тому +148

      @@kamusta3446 oof, that struck your nerve didn’t it? 💀💀

  • @fearisaliar3
    @fearisaliar3 2 місяці тому

    Love watching everyone

  • @shanereignz8662
    @shanereignz8662 8 місяців тому +251

    Jason was on point. I thought i was progressive until i heard this conversation. I disagreed with most if not all the statements. This was insightful and thought provoking❤

    • @PreachTh3Truth
      @PreachTh3Truth 7 місяців тому +4

      Hello! I am a conservative Christian too! Two questions: how are you doing today? What points did you find yourself disagreeing with for either side?

  • @kashcow
    @kashcow 3 роки тому +2247

    When he said “I had homosexual inclinations” when I tell u, I have never screamed “IK IT” so loud.

    • @daddylonglegs3420
      @daddylonglegs3420 3 роки тому +341

      hun, with those glasses we been knew 💀

    • @norapeace6526
      @norapeace6526 3 роки тому +17

      @@daddylonglegs3420 HOW???? Teach me your ways 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂

    • @lilyfeist3841
      @lilyfeist3841 3 роки тому +319

      Low key just want to give him a hug and tell him it’s okay to be gay...

    • @DizGaAlcam
      @DizGaAlcam 3 роки тому +78

      @@norapeace6526 its called gaydar

    • @norapeace6526
      @norapeace6526 3 роки тому +14

      @@DizGaAlcam I know what it’s called.. I’m trying to improve mine 😅

  • @carloshinojosa9824
    @carloshinojosa9824 3 роки тому +2104

    idk how these people remember verses lol. All I learned in Catholic School: God is good all the time; all the time, God is good.

    • @hzlkelly
      @hzlkelly 3 роки тому +61

      Because you don't read the Bible for yourself.

    • @skappy8307
      @skappy8307 3 роки тому +27

      samee cuz i don’t have time to memorize the Bible i would rather do something productive

    • @lotus8650
      @lotus8650 3 роки тому +55

      a lot of people “know” verses only to argue their point.

    • @arrow2589
      @arrow2589 3 роки тому +18

      It starts when you're a kid and years and years of brainwashing later it's pretty well indoctrinated

    • @carloshinojosa9824
      @carloshinojosa9824 3 роки тому +1

      @@skappy8307 lol, like breathing

  • @evanfairchild9015
    @evanfairchild9015 6 місяців тому +5

    Angel and Jason are great

  • @donitanelson6813
    @donitanelson6813 Місяць тому +1

    Amen Angel !! May the Lord bless you with more than you’ve ever imagined for your obedience & faithfulness !! Amen 🙏🏾✝️

  • @nidamerchant1935
    @nidamerchant1935 3 роки тому +2292

    progressive vs conservative muslims would be such a good topic

    • @shzarmai
      @shzarmai 3 роки тому +104

      Sunnis vs Shia muslims would be very interesting to see tbh

    • @danabarakat1816
      @danabarakat1816 3 роки тому +91

      nope. Conservative Muslims stand by what they believe in regardless. You cannot sway their opinions nor can you have a simple conversation about differing views. That's MY experience being born Muslim and no longer identifying with Islam in my community. The majority of conservative Muslims believe they are one hundred percent correct in every idea that they have been taught and even discussing different ideas/views is regarded as sinful. Not much of a discussion would ever happen (in my opinion).

    • @danabarakat1816
      @danabarakat1816 3 роки тому +14

      @@shzarmai I highly doubt it would be civil though.

    • @shzarmai
      @shzarmai 3 роки тому +11

      @@danabarakat1816 Ok I would still like to see it though regardless lol

    • @danabarakat1816
      @danabarakat1816 3 роки тому +28

      @@shzarmai I mean, it would most likely be a lot of bickering, yelling, and arguing and people constantly interrupting one another... just what I picture, lol. I mean in my Muslim community people get in actual fights about religion and it's just so unhealthy, but if that's what you want to watch... lol.

  • @nono-mu9rw
    @nono-mu9rw 3 роки тому +1822

    how do they quote the bible like that when I can't even remember song lyrics

    • @brookepettenati3323
      @brookepettenati3323 3 роки тому +26

      right 😭😭

    • @hydrolito
      @hydrolito 3 роки тому +33

      Jesus loves me this I know because the bible tells me so, little ones to he belong they are weak but he is strong. yes Jesus loves me, yes Jesus loves me the bible tells me so. I remember that from when I was a child. Although no longer claim to believe in any god.

    • @marcilk7534
      @marcilk7534 3 роки тому +35

      They work at memorizing it. I have difficulty memorizing too.

    • @mollie-maiellmer6607
      @mollie-maiellmer6607 3 роки тому +2

      Bible*

    • @clarissafairchild16
      @clarissafairchild16 3 роки тому +7

      I can quote one verse and that's it. And that's bc it was drilled into my head during bible study in third grade...I'm now in 9th grade and agnostic

  • @msrivera360
    @msrivera360 Місяць тому

    I love the way Jason expresses himself. Hit all the nails!

  • @va.j
    @va.j 7 місяців тому +17

    I’m glad that Jason was present !

  • @gilliandoplemore9357
    @gilliandoplemore9357 3 роки тому +1525

    This is not Liberal Christians vs. Republican Christians, it is Progressive Christians vs. Conservative Christians. There is a difference that does not relate directly to politics.

    • @christophermorillo369
      @christophermorillo369 3 роки тому +40

      i mean it does relate directly to politics which is why they talk about various policy (abortion, marriage) and why 2/3 conservative Christians and 0/3 progressive Christians said republicans were more Christ-like.

    • @walker7155
      @walker7155 3 роки тому +16

      how does this not relate to politics when all they talk about is politics?

    • @gilliandoplemore9357
      @gilliandoplemore9357 3 роки тому +28

      @@christophermorillo369 Maybe in the context of this video, but in general it’s bigger than politics. There’s a different that goes beyond parties.

    • @gilliandoplemore9357
      @gilliandoplemore9357 3 роки тому +5

      @@walker7155 maybe in the context of this video, but overall, there is more to it.

    • @walker7155
      @walker7155 3 роки тому

      @@gilliandoplemore9357 maybe they don’t talk about issues you feel they should talk about, but the video is based on their individual association with either republican, or libertarian.

  • @ariellaccorrea
    @ariellaccorrea 3 роки тому +4464

    i wish this was longer episode bc these topics never get discussed like thissss

    • @ariellak5088
      @ariellak5088 3 роки тому +10

      someone with the same name as me?!

    • @maryg9818
      @maryg9818 3 роки тому +70

      I know right? as a conservative Christian I don't see this kind of good discussion often

    • @Vic-hc4rr
      @Vic-hc4rr 3 роки тому +25

      @@maryg9818 Exactly!! You can't find this stuff anywhere anymore

    • @skeleton5459
      @skeleton5459 3 роки тому +48

      same!! i love the way they are discussing things properly. i've never seen an episode where the people discuss things like this.

    • @LeahMarieyt
      @LeahMarieyt 3 роки тому +16

      Part 2!!

  • @BlankF1lms
    @BlankF1lms 7 місяців тому +6

    JASON THE MENACE!!! This was a great video!!

  • @user-zw9ud5eg2z
    @user-zw9ud5eg2z 7 місяців тому +2

    So much love for Angel

  • @Jupiters_burns
    @Jupiters_burns 3 роки тому +2245

    ANGEL LITERALLY CAME OUT THE CLOSET, DID A SPIN AND WALKED RIGHT BACK IN.

  • @ashleycouch9084
    @ashleycouch9084 3 роки тому +8184

    “God did not hurt me, it was the people in the church who hurt me”. Love this so much

    • @brendonbuffaloe8830
      @brendonbuffaloe8830 3 роки тому +182

      I’m sorry that you love that statement. It’s very sad that that happened to you. The church is meant to be encouraging and comforting to its members, so I question whether or not the church you went to is built on Christ.

    • @c.l.4883
      @c.l.4883 3 роки тому +125

      @@brendonbuffaloe8830 many are actually not and that’s a tough pill to swallow for many.

    • @brendonbuffaloe8830
      @brendonbuffaloe8830 3 роки тому +75

      @@c.l.4883 I agree. But know that they do not represent what Christianity is supposed to be

    • @c.l.4883
      @c.l.4883 3 роки тому +16

      @@brendonbuffaloe8830 indeed

    • @lynnryan3727
      @lynnryan3727 3 роки тому +69

      @@brendonbuffaloe8830 the church hurts a lot of people sadly, and while I resonated with that statement, personally I came to that realization too late.
      They hurt me in such a deep and personal way that i don't think I'll ever feel comfortable associating myself with anything that has an Abrahamic label. And there are more and more people every day who come to that conclusion. It sucks, but i feel more at peace with myself today without Christianity than i ever did with it, and i will never give that up for what's equivalent to an abusive family again.

  • @Waffles4903
    @Waffles4903 7 місяців тому +1

    Even my mind is torn apart by the bias of religion versus non-religion almost all the time. These types of kindness helps my own biases stabilize.

  • @voiceofthefathertv
    @voiceofthefathertv 9 місяців тому +9

    “I have a tendency and desire to eat certain foods doesn’t mean I should just accept who I am”

  • @creamymarshmxllow2830
    @creamymarshmxllow2830 3 роки тому +3852

    I don’t want to be nice to others to avoid going to hell. I want to be nice to others because I genuinely want to be a decent human being.

    • @honey-fo6ro
      @honey-fo6ro 3 роки тому +300

      Jesus wasn’t nice because He didn’t want to go to hell. He was nice because He was, indeed, genuinely a nice person who never did anything wrong to anybody. In fact, His kindness was just the tip of the iceberg. He was and is SO much more than that, so having faith is about so much more than just being nice.

    • @yeehaw24
      @yeehaw24 3 роки тому +157

      You missed the point.... we can’t go to heaven just because we force ourselves to be nice. You have to genuinely want to do it. I didn’t help kids in 6th grade with suicide and cutting themselves to make me look good and take me to Heaven. I did it because I wanted them to go to Heaven. You missed something.

    • @roguedaskill
      @roguedaskill 3 роки тому +17

      Sounds like you're a Christian then.

    • @shomshomni2314
      @shomshomni2314 3 роки тому +70

      But here's the thing it is not our works that lead us to heaven, it is our faith in Jesus Christ. Christians just do the works because God is working through us but Jesus has already done the work and paid for us to be a part of His family with His blood. We are saved by grace not by works, lest anyone should boast. - Ephesians 2:8

    • @Miriam-xd6wp
      @Miriam-xd6wp 3 роки тому +8

      @@yeehaw24 people suffering from self harm will still go to heaven

  • @acidmizer
    @acidmizer 3 роки тому +7919

    as a non-religious person, this was rather interesting.

    • @nicholasgee9127
      @nicholasgee9127 3 роки тому +37

      It is misleading.

    • @vincenzorutigliano5435
      @vincenzorutigliano5435 3 роки тому +92

      It's just American protestants fighting over what does it mean to be protestant

    • @natesalinas3736
      @natesalinas3736 3 роки тому +311

      @@vincenzorutigliano5435 Progressive Christianity is like a Doctor telling you that you can drink a 2 liter of Soda a day, and you will still be Healthy. Because it makes you feel good. Oh but make sure you get your carrots in too.

    • @jackryan7357
      @jackryan7357 3 роки тому +1

      same ol

    • @vincenzorutigliano5435
      @vincenzorutigliano5435 3 роки тому +34

      @@natesalinas3736 Protestantism is the first step down to atheism.

  • @lizconstantly4178
    @lizconstantly4178 8 місяців тому +17

    It’s crazy how respectful everyone here is! I was completely expecting a screaming match of opinions. I’m not a Christian by any means and am certainly liberal in my beliefs but here there were a few points where I could really respect the conservative Christians.

  • @fysical7643
    @fysical7643 3 роки тому +719

    bro these people memorized the bible, I can't even remember what I had for dinner

    • @Eanna0228
      @Eanna0228 3 роки тому +9

      Right 😭😭

    • @benborja3200
      @benborja3200 3 роки тому +2

      lol

    • @alainaholycross6586
      @alainaholycross6586 3 роки тому +7

      and that's being a pastor and being deticated to the Lord :D

    • @emiliezylstra6589
      @emiliezylstra6589 3 роки тому

      Bruh same

    • @alainaholycross6586
      @alainaholycross6586 3 роки тому +2

      @Filcher Gravesly Not a waste of time if you knew where you were goin when you die... and it ain't heaven (for now) and it ain't staying put in the ground. It breaks my heart to know there are so many (like you) people that don't and haven't come to realize what they're missing out on when they should go to the kingdom of God! :( :( bless your soul..

  • @amelasiller
    @amelasiller 3 роки тому +1335

    homosexuals, transgender & people who break the speed Limit..... WHATDIDHESAYYYYYY?!? 👁️👄👁️

    • @JeyC_
      @JeyC_ 3 роки тому +64

      I think what he meant by that is people who break laws. Not literally people who break the speed limit

    • @brandonmma
      @brandonmma 3 роки тому +27

      Trans doesn’t exist. You can’t change your gender

    • @thepopcornthatjenniethrew8381
      @thepopcornthatjenniethrew8381 3 роки тому +107

      @@brandonmma actually animals can, and so can people, actually they don’t even change genders they’re the gender they identify as

    • @arrghus
      @arrghus 3 роки тому +112

      @@brandonmma sex ≠ gender

    • @thepopcornthatjenniethrew8381
      @thepopcornthatjenniethrew8381 3 роки тому +41

      @@infinitedino9807 actually some fish species do it too, as well as some lizards, butterflies, birds, lobsters, snakes, turtles, and a lioness who acted and had many traits and behaviors of a male lion was found so checkmate. Oh and it’s been scientifically proven that Trans people’s brains are wired like the gender they identify as

  • @marcanuelplata889
    @marcanuelplata889 Місяць тому +1

    Jason and angel keep it up brothers. 💌

  • @ihavetwoos
    @ihavetwoos 9 місяців тому +4

    Love the answer of the brother in the brown jacket

    • @ihavetwoos
      @ihavetwoos 9 місяців тому

      At 13:43 he's spitting there

  • @anastasiareid3333
    @anastasiareid3333 3 роки тому +4060

    As a black student who attends private school, I would love to see black private school kids vs. black public school students, I think that would be interesting and a great experience

    • @ericanation2458
      @ericanation2458 3 роки тому +56

      Love this idea!!

    • @anastasiareid3333
      @anastasiareid3333 3 роки тому +5

      @@ericanation2458 thank youuuu+

    • @kemidada6371
      @kemidada6371 3 роки тому +131

      YESS!! Or African Americans versus people who grew up in Africa

    • @Dude-dx5ns
      @Dude-dx5ns 3 роки тому +2

      @Tiarra How??

    • @goggle2233
      @goggle2233 3 роки тому +34

      @@Dude-dx5ns both side look down each other a lot so it may be hard but I do want to see it

  • @EpicBURN321
    @EpicBURN321 3 роки тому +4998

    Would be interesting to see Liberal Muslims vs Conservative Muslims

    • @Kyrgyz420
      @Kyrgyz420 3 роки тому +475

      It would be the biggest fight ever

    • @hishamharis9371
      @hishamharis9371 3 роки тому +17

      Truee..

    • @hishamharis9371
      @hishamharis9371 3 роки тому +26

      Yeah! Many of them. It depends upon their respective countries I may say.

    • @hishamharis9371
      @hishamharis9371 3 роки тому +61

      Like muslims in developed countries are chill.. uae for example. And muslims from multicultural countries like India are most likely liberals

    • @hishamharis9371
      @hishamharis9371 3 роки тому +22

      That's true... Moreover social media tends to polarise everyone's views.. so a conservative continues to be conservative and a liberal will have his feed filled with posts in favour of his own ideology. It's important for one to have a friend circle of various cultures and religions.

  • @terryboldenjr.3555
    @terryboldenjr.3555 2 місяці тому

    Love what she said at the end

  • @lailah8691
    @lailah8691 4 місяці тому +1

    ”because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.“

  • @bingusluvr2280
    @bingusluvr2280 3 роки тому +2076

    “people in the church hurt me, not god” amen

    • @galaxygalatics3255
      @galaxygalatics3255 3 роки тому +5

      People will still hate you or me where ever we go online or in real life even when you or me beleave in god or not there is aways going to be hate in the world

    • @dawoodalmas2476
      @dawoodalmas2476 3 роки тому +33

      Hisoka God loves you but you need to take your eyes off from Gon and Kilua

    • @bingusluvr2280
      @bingusluvr2280 3 роки тому +11

      @@dawoodalmas2476 ooooooOoOH gOoOooon

    • @Unique_Monk
      @Unique_Monk 3 роки тому +10

      He’s a pastor - he married a man - he is committing one almighty sin
      Stop making God fit your narratives people - how can you believe in God then change his words to suit - unbelievable hypocrisy

    • @gitBritt
      @gitBritt 3 роки тому +7

      The church even hurt Christ, as in they killed him. At the time the church was the nation of Israel.

  • @Munenejr
    @Munenejr 3 роки тому +8841

    I’m Christian, been most of my life. The real question is how do people memorize verses so well. Do they just walk around reciting them ?

    • @reichan8363
      @reichan8363 3 роки тому +402

      Could be. You can also do it if you choose to memorize them.

    • @adreannasears994
      @adreannasears994 3 роки тому +417

      I just read them over and over and pray about memorization.

    • @adreannasears994
      @adreannasears994 3 роки тому +153

      @@n.g.l. reciting yes, but it does take personal disciple to actually memorize them. I have a difficult time reciting if I haven’t made any effort to memorize

    • @GR-dw9nm
      @GR-dw9nm 3 роки тому +10

      @@reichan8363 When you want to force an agenda you tend to vomit the same nonsense over and over.

    • @gosh_jm
      @gosh_jm 3 роки тому +49

      Ikr!!! I think it would be really cool to know verses like that. Knowing what verse to say at what moment would be really cool.

  • @everydaydadfixinit4803
    @everydaydadfixinit4803 8 місяців тому +20

    I can truly appreciate Curt...seems to be a gentle soul

  • @iem123
    @iem123 7 місяців тому +175

    Great to see Angel and Jason being both respectful to the progressive “Christians” but also being very firm in their stance on the bible being completely true. You can’t call yourself a Christian and turn around and disregard large parts of what he’s said and they were respectful but firm about that fact

    • @yennifercortez6961
      @yennifercortez6961 6 місяців тому +6

      Amen

    • @historysyourbestfriend5500
      @historysyourbestfriend5500 Місяць тому

      Neither can the “conservative” Christians. They don’t follow Christianity to the T either so what they’re not Christian? Don’t begin w that.

  • @myaruth6010
    @myaruth6010 3 роки тому +4728

    “People in the church hurt you, not God” is the best line because people don’t realize this and it hurts them more than anything.
    Edit: I said this because I know people who questioned their faith because of how the people of the church acted towards them and others.

    • @yaelfox2906
      @yaelfox2906 3 роки тому +25

      I got chills

    • @blackarchon8778
      @blackarchon8778 3 роки тому +51

      Thats why you should leave the church.

    • @TornadoeJoe
      @TornadoeJoe 3 роки тому +86

      @@blackarchon8778 That's the furthest thing from the truth.

    • @Lebronwski
      @Lebronwski 3 роки тому +25

      @@frogpoop397 you shouldn’t leave because of the ppl. You should leave if the doctrines false or hateful

    • @evas1463
      @evas1463 3 роки тому +22

      Very true!! Religion is mostly about finding hope in someone greater than us and having a community but people seem to forget that, which is why we have those religious wars and people baptizing others and tearing them down, just because they want their religion to justify their own racism/homophobia or hate in general, when it really doesn't!!

  • @SmartistaBeauty
    @SmartistaBeauty 3 роки тому +33688

    I read the title and said oooo this finna be a tussle

  • @danieladegoke4910
    @danieladegoke4910 8 місяців тому +10

    The last lady summed it all perfectly, all in all it is God's help that we need

  • @noahmchugh3769
    @noahmchugh3769 8 місяців тому +8

    Mans said “I have desires and inclinations to follow the voice of the Lord” Amen brother.

  • @doctor1alex
    @doctor1alex 3 роки тому +1122

    Christians should never be defined by by politics but should definitely care about politics.

    • @crt1978
      @crt1978 3 роки тому +5

      Good point

    • @eliesh3833
      @eliesh3833 3 роки тому +31

      Agreed. There's nothing wrong with having political beliefs whilst being a person of faith, as long as those two things remain separate.

    • @DudeImWayBetter
      @DudeImWayBetter 3 роки тому +18

      @@eliesh3833 Completely disagree if you are to have political opinions they should come from a kingdom / Bible perspective. Not a worldly one.

    • @eliesh3833
      @eliesh3833 3 роки тому +12

      @@DudeImWayBetter What does that even mean? Politics themselves are a worldly thing. That's why faith should be separate from political belief. If you base your faith entirely on politics, then it seems like you're believing in God for the wrong reasons.
      There's actually a verse that may support this.
      *Mark 12:17* "Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they marveled at him."
      You may advocate whatever political beliefs that you want to, as long as your faith in God does not become intertwined with these things.
      Your spiritual faith should not be placed in people or material things, only in God.
      And if anything, I feel that being politically unbiased whilst supporting aspects of both sides is more Christ-like then just being one or the other. Both sides hold biblical values just as they both hold values that are unbiblical.
      Frankly, I don't think either political side is the "biblical" one. They're both just political ideologies that conflict one other in a myriad of ways.

    • @DudeImWayBetter
      @DudeImWayBetter 3 роки тому +8

      @@eliesh3833 nothing should be seperate from the kingdom / faith. If you have a belief that isn't first filtered through the Bible than what's the point of the Bible / your faith in the first place.

  • @tomiy09
    @tomiy09 3 роки тому +936

    “People in the church hurt you, not god” - powerful.

    • @macbeth7701
      @macbeth7701 3 роки тому +22

      God* Truueeee 🙏🏾🙌🏾

    • @jamesx8188
      @jamesx8188 3 роки тому +4

      very

    • @f1i273
      @f1i273 3 роки тому +14

      God doesn’t exist

    • @macbeth7701
      @macbeth7701 3 роки тому +21

      @@f1i273 He surely does sir or ma’am

    • @ogechianusi6809
      @ogechianusi6809 3 роки тому +13

      @@f1i273 well many believe he does and many don't so I think you should just respect each opinion

  • @matildakalunga302
    @matildakalunga302 6 місяців тому +1

    Jason!!!!! Yes!!!

  • @karlmoore9820
    @karlmoore9820 9 місяців тому +3

    Jason...💯💯💯

  • @Max-lx2vx
    @Max-lx2vx 3 роки тому +3358

    i feel really bad for Curt in the lgbtq talking part there just saying how gay people won’t go to heaven and stuff and he’s here like:🧍‍♂️

    • @ilovejesus77888
      @ilovejesus77888 3 роки тому +287

      well he has to hear it. It hurts but it’s a warning so he doesn’t go there. Someone had to say it

    • @Max-lx2vx
      @Max-lx2vx 3 роки тому +646

      @@ilovejesus77888 he’s not gonna go to hell for being gay

    • @gabbyalarcon305
      @gabbyalarcon305 3 роки тому +117

      @Bruno Menezes why?

    • @Max-lx2vx
      @Max-lx2vx 3 роки тому +185

      @Bruno Menezes no he won’t

    • @ilovejesus77888
      @ilovejesus77888 3 роки тому +173

      @@Max-lx2vx I can guarantee that you really have no knowledge of what it is to follow Christ . He’s a compromised Christian. That’s the progressive clan. They want to follow Christ but there’s parts that they don’t want to let go, so they compromise and call it progressive Christianity. In other words..foolishness. So I don’t blame you for thinking that way. Take care.

  • @juliacosta5472
    @juliacosta5472 3 роки тому +2663

    honestly some christians just choose the parts of the bible they want to believe. In both sides

    • @jesusislord3050
      @jesusislord3050 3 роки тому +30

      They shouldn’t

    • @Ejiro__Kirishima
      @Ejiro__Kirishima 3 роки тому +246

      I personally prefer the Christians that don’t explain hatespeech with the Bible.

    • @beiimnida3266
      @beiimnida3266 3 роки тому +9

      True. You really need to look for the right one and thank God I did

    • @Keesha_Hardy
      @Keesha_Hardy 3 роки тому +23

      @@Ejiro__Kirishima How are there hateful parts to the Bible?

    • @christianlittle4303
      @christianlittle4303 3 роки тому +71

      @@Ejiro__Kirishima um no if your a Christian you listen to all parts of the Bible not just what you want to here, being a Christian and not listening to the Bible would b Heresy

  • @paulinejulien9191
    @paulinejulien9191 6 місяців тому +11

    As someone coming from a European country where atheism is the norm and religion is the exception, I actually find this fascinating to watch.

  • @KD-kb9mc
    @KD-kb9mc 8 місяців тому +5

    No lgbtq couples should never be married in the church, that is not the biblical definition of marriage, that's a government civil union

  • @mariag2545
    @mariag2545 3 роки тому +1440

    The black worship leader guy looks like he’s straight outta the 70s
    edit: omg this got a lot of like hahaha

    • @tricktrapper
      @tricktrapper 3 роки тому +160

      man I feel so bad for that dude. He's throwing a major life experience away because of one line in a 2,000 year old book that was mistranslated three hundred years ago. nah son be you

    • @emmajoygray7239
      @emmajoygray7239 3 роки тому +50

      @@tricktrapper he hates himself so much :(

    • @snoopythedoge5639
      @snoopythedoge5639 3 роки тому +48

      @@tricktrapper the bible speaks against homosexuality in many different parts of the Bible, so it was not just a mistranslated word. (For example, Leviticus and some of Paul's writings. I dont remember the specific verses tho) God bless.

    • @atrixsauza2068
      @atrixsauza2068 3 роки тому +21

      @@snoopythedoge5639 that does not mean the book is good. It is still outdated as it was made by ignorant men after all

    • @ChrisSmith-pe4tf
      @ChrisSmith-pe4tf 3 роки тому +28

      @@emmajoygray7239 no he doesn’t, he will get his eternal reward

  • @katiebells8024
    @katiebells8024 3 роки тому +6225

    The girl made a really good point about divorce vs homosexuality that no one countered.

    • @greenergrass4060
      @greenergrass4060 3 роки тому +346

      Yeah, youre right. I think because Divorce is a "one-time" sin. Whilst homosexual relations last Long-term , and therefore become "lifestyles".

    • @amartinez589
      @amartinez589 3 роки тому +552

      @katiebells the Bible explicitly states that God hates divorce, Malachi 2:16. If someone was divorced prior to becoming a Christian they are not going to be excluded from service. If someone was practicing homosexuality prior to becoming Christian they should not be excluded either. But no one can claim to be a Christian and also practice homosexuality. They also cannot claim to be Christian and desire divorce.

    • @greenergrass4060
      @greenergrass4060 3 роки тому +7

      @@amartinez589 what are your thoughts on Annulment? Or legal, state-appointed marriage?

    • @poocrayon4588
      @poocrayon4588 3 роки тому +36

      Most no fault divorces would be a sin in Gods eyes. But I guess it was Eve that ate the apple and women do initiate 85% of divorce and feminists were the ones that fought for no fault divorce so its no surprise

    • @jermerygrug3090
      @jermerygrug3090 3 роки тому +5

      @@greenergrass4060 I was just about to say this good onya mate

  • @ij1376
    @ij1376 9 місяців тому +53

    21:23 this guy is so gentle, but he's got guts calling them out

    • @dhfocus7
      @dhfocus7 4 місяці тому +1

      Best part of the conversation. Needed to be said.

  • @nataliamont05
    @nataliamont05 5 місяців тому +1

    super awesome convo! brenda and jason were great

  • @camilledeadwiler7266
    @camilledeadwiler7266 3 роки тому +1643

    I find it weird that the question asked “Would Jesus protest” and people explained why they didn’t protest... the question didn’t ask what y’all would or did do

    • @SailorAnthy
      @SailorAnthy 3 роки тому +50

      Thank You! I came to the comments looking for this

    • @_chade
      @_chade 3 роки тому +92

      You bring up a very good point, which essentially is the basis of religion: ONE’S own beliefs and interpretations that are then put on Jesus.

    • @nikolatheme5572
      @nikolatheme5572 3 роки тому +25

      Ikr, personaly I don't believe in god but if I did I would want to believe that he would. Because I would only want to believe in kind God that wants to help people.

    • @enigmatic9118
      @enigmatic9118 3 роки тому +27

      Mind you, I'm not a christian, but I was born and raised one. Their responses to that question seem based on the fact they view Jesus as within them, and that Jesus is many things. If they did not participate, then Jesus would not participate, but they also explained why.
      Once again, I do not hold these beliefs, but I do want to help explain where they are coming from.

    • @my_cousin_mose9782
      @my_cousin_mose9782 3 роки тому +6

      I thought it was odd too. I bet that was all edited out. I could be wrong but it seems more likely than them skirting around the question like that.