Hi there , finally , after 2 years , you have explained very simple & easy what's meaning of main power rail at 09:15 and 11:02 and 27:10 .it was one of your best video tutorial video .this video absolutely for beginners and practical . thankyou for simple explanation about how to find and diagnose main power rail . please upload more like this video . keep it up . thnx
As ever, Sorin shows us everything and his experience based on sound physics is more useful and instructive than flashier sites mainly from the USA. About a year ago he demonstrated that the modern tendency to double up capacitors rather than using high quality ones at the design stage can lead to machines refusing to switch on. I believe he was working on several HP models from cheap to extortionate at the time. Board manufacturers need to watch capacitor quality and pledge a warranty of 15 years on boards and/or build in override redundancy.
If you have such a laptop, be careful with the DC socket. MSI has installed the same socket that caused so much trouble with the Asus X555, R556 and co., they always break at the positive pin.
it is worth noticing that the shorted capacitor was out of the heatsink area and not a capacitor touching the heatsink which makes perfect sense since it overheats during games. good one Sorin!
Great find! Idk why this is so interesting to watch, but it is. Maybe because I'm an electrician so I have a decent grasp on what's going on? This seems like it'd be fun to do for a living.
Woh what a nice laptop 💻 and you are crazy with 5amps one mistake and you blowing things up with a lot off 💨smoke. And again a Sorin repair ripped something from the board and it’s working fine. Thanks 🙏
I think warranty seals would be OK if they put them on screws to access the motherboard or some other part you’re not likely to need access to before the warranty expires. You should be able to access the cooler, memory and hard drive easily.
Without having to remove a ton of screws and fight to get the bottom cover off. I had an Asus that had a single screw to access user serviceable components
Hi Sorin am a beginner and i like your lessons and I need your more help to get through of being a good level of fixing computers. Am a Malawian I have been trying for 4 years to reach at a good level of fixing computers but not, then I was happy to find your website. Am jobless it's only this I get surviving with I need your help to teach me. Thank you Sorin.
Wish this had been mine today. Asus Rog, same short on main power rail. Thermal camera showed nothing on either side of the board. Found odd reading on the gate of a dual MOSFET to CPU/GPU rails. Removed the MOSFET, short on the main rail gone. Replace MOSFET with new, short back again. Still nothing showing up on thermal cam (mind you the mosfets are rated at like 100A), decided that CPU shorted and called time on the repair. I really could have done with a 'flick off a cap and invoice' job today.
i got lucky and had the samee problem , power weeent in but no light ,i turned it around and put a pin on the little hole on the back, and felt the fan spun so i presseed for 30s and nothing , i got sad until i preessed again 2min later and boom :D
such weak thermal pads. or at least they look like that. Some thermal grizzly minus pad 8 will work in there and thermal grizzly kryonaut paste or even arctiv mx5. Salutari din Romania si mult succes in continuare !!!
What a great post. I liked the look inside the modern layout. Was waiting for meltdown at the 5 amp when it was going to ground. And loved the repair as de-solder to a toast cap. I think there is going to be a lot more of this (exact component) failure in this model. Thank you very much for the in depth view to the unit. M.
Nice job I always like the practical approach with simple tools instead of someone reading schematics and using 3-5 $k machines to fix problems... Also I notice that 1, this is a very new machine it shouldn't have this kinda issue... 2. the GS series sucks ( I used to own one I know) 3. those capacitors are right above the GPU heat sink... one wonders if the heat sink were a bit longer and they had been cooled would it still have blown?? 4. at 21:07 it appears the capacitor is also cracked... which would have been another way to find issue.....
(13:20) -- you need an infrared heat screen / lamp ... once you place power on the board under the infrared screen -- it will denote the area / part - that is overheating ... sourcing would be easier this way ... just a suggestion for this type of application .... :)
@@graphicscardtech3167 i think is needed there so he need to put something there other one line of power will be gone and who knowd what that line is responcible for... or im wrong?
Hello sir. I hope the next video will be about repairing the charging cable that is connected to the motherboard and not the charging adapter. laptop DELL latitude e6410
@Truth Never Lies me too. i took 3 out of my dell but ceramic ones i didnt know which one it was i shouldve used his trick to find the one the went dry first but anyhow i took them all out 3 in a roll still has two small ones and had to be on main power rail it was a dead short it sparked when inserting the charger but i used it an hour last night and never had an issue stayed cool
2022 and Sorin still has no thermal camera😄 I'd replace this cap... they didn't put it there for fun... i think this could cause problems or instabilty when the machine is pushed hard.
Whoa im an amateur i just started a 3 months course basics of laptop repair .... but this msi monster looks alot diffrent it has alot of coils and alot of ics than notebooks ... the way the thermal pads are melted is weired and cpu themal past shows an imperfection in the heat sink at begining of the video you unpluged the battery and charger and you were cheking voltage wat were you doing ??
I have a three year old Overpowered OP-LP3 Laptop. Recently the glue holding the display on failed and the display tilted down applying pressure to the connector. Not wanting to work on it myself I brought it to a shop that reinserted the connector but the display would not light up. The repairman opened up the computer and found burnt components on the motherboard. Problem is we can't find a schematic for this machine in order to identify the failed parts. Do you have any idea with to find a schematic for this Overpowered OP-LP3 Laptop? Andy advise would be greatly appreciated. It's a beautiful machine and I really need to get it working. Thank you in advance.
the laptop is not under stress, so just powering it up wont use full power of the power circuit, it's safe for the just power/boot check (ultra low consuption)
I have same laptop as on the video. Y, G, V keys and all brackets and enter key are not working. I pushed reset button on the bottom and it helped for 2 days. Now i have the same problem. What the problem could it be? Do i need to replace whole keyboard?
I ruined the el cheapo version of this (G76 i5 rtx1650 on sale for 4-500 £) by trying to replace SSD with battery/power in. Dropped a screw twice, after it already did not start dropped it again on the screen connector. Sparks, dead. Clumsy, was in a hurry. Found another outlet sale G66 i5 3050 at around 600£. Can I swap the G66 mb to the G76 which has 17' screen or is this unwise when the screen connector has been shorted? (The G66 was a demo pc, battery is shot and someone seems to have pushed hard on the trackpad but that is ok, I got back a cheap gaming pc)
No they are not totally useless they have there own purposes but laptop can work absolutely fine without them so until it’s not important generally we don’t do that 😂
Hi Sorin what’s the name of your shop and where could I find you? I have a gaming lap top that needs repairing. I’ve tried looking on Google but can’t find anything.
Sir we want video everyday atleast please. We are your deciples. We learn a lot from you. Please upload a video if it is a very simple for you. For us it is ocean of knowledge 🙏🙏🙏
I have been whatching him for years and made fortune from his videos but still a big question in my head> why he does not buy a thermal camera????>>>>>
Well I have a similar problem with my GS65, it worked the previous night the next morning at the office, I plugged in my charger and the laptop came on automatically. The fans and keyboard light came up for few seconds while the power light was blinking slowly like when it on sleep mode and the turns off. Till this very day it won't turn on again. Please help fix it 😭😭😭
good to see you dont hide your mistakes, well done.
4:17 You know the engineers did a great job when Sorin pauses for a second looking at the PCB and says: "This is nice."
The Prof does his magic again. Sorin Top notch.
Hi there , finally , after 2 years , you have explained very simple & easy what's meaning of main power rail at 09:15 and 11:02 and 27:10 .it was one of your best video tutorial video .this video absolutely for beginners and practical . thankyou for simple explanation about how to find and diagnose main power rail . please upload more like this video . keep it up . thnx
You can tell Sorin is a master at his craft. He can no longer test for heat with his finger tips lol. They’ve been burnt too many times now lol.
I love your interactions during repairs. You are just great
As ever, Sorin shows us everything and his experience based on sound physics is more useful and instructive than flashier sites mainly from the USA.
About a year ago he demonstrated that the modern tendency to double up capacitors rather than using high quality ones at the design stage can lead to machines refusing to switch on. I believe he was working on several HP models from cheap to extortionate at the time.
Board manufacturers need to watch capacitor quality and pledge a warranty of 15 years on boards and/or build in override redundancy.
If you have such a laptop, be careful with the DC socket. MSI has installed the same socket that caused so much trouble with the Asus X555, R556 and co., they always break at the positive pin.
The owner of the channel is good at his work and has full knowledge in repairing devices and I am sure he knows this problem well
@@firasabbis9682 The owner of the channel is good at his work, but there are others too who read the comments and may find this information relevant.
@@SiETechNotebookReparatur so the cause of the toasted capacitor was design flaw DC connector?
@@nicky9841 Of course not, it was a different problem.
it is worth noticing that the shorted capacitor was out of the heatsink area and not a capacitor touching the heatsink which makes perfect sense since it overheats during games. good one Sorin!
Even without a thermal camera, you were still able to execute 💪🏽💫
I can not tell you how many times I watched Sorin remove parts and the laptop still works
I am thinking that 40% of the parts are not needed :)
they are needed under full pressure. especially something like an electrolytic capacitor is probably there to handle the required surge in power.
After more than 60 years of fault finding on electrical, electronic and mechanical items I've proven that 'things work better with less bits'.
I caught your mistake and was yelling into the screen, but you couldn't hear me. 🤣
You are one of a kind sir Sorin 👍
Hello from South Carolina. Another great video Sorin.
Great find! Idk why this is so interesting to watch, but it is. Maybe because I'm an electrician so I have a decent grasp on what's going on? This seems like it'd be fun to do for a living.
Again a great job Sorin.
Thank you for the video.
Sorine... Uploadează mai multe videouri! Adormim de plictiseala. 😀
I wish I had to deal with problems as simple as this. Sometimes there is such a deep problem that I can't imagine how to solve! Great job!
You make repairs look easy, nice job
i knew you were pushing the current to the ground😫i waited for you to notice it🤣
I love my new MSI Tomahawk, did not know MSI makes laptops.
yes, they make laptop for a long time now
Woh what a nice laptop 💻 and you are crazy with 5amps one mistake and you blowing things up with a lot off 💨smoke. And again a Sorin repair ripped something from the board and it’s working fine. Thanks 🙏
I think warranty seals would be OK if they put them on screws to access the motherboard or some other part you’re not likely to need access to before the warranty expires. You should be able to access the cooler, memory and hard drive easily.
Without having to remove a ton of screws and fight to get the bottom cover off. I had an Asus that had a single screw to access user serviceable components
Hi Sorin am a beginner and i like your lessons and I need your more help to get through of being a good level of fixing computers. Am a Malawian I have been trying for 4 years to reach at a good level of fixing computers but not, then I was happy to find your website. Am jobless it's only this I get surviving with I need your help to teach me. Thank you Sorin.
Just love these video's.. I learn a lot from them thanks Sorin..
Sorin, The first component I thought was bad was also a mosfet. Great job !!! Finding the fault!
Awesome content surely learnt a lot. Maybe you could do a video on upgrading onboard RAM that would be interesting.
Thanks King
this is a good job and you are very friendly person , thank you very much Mr. Sorin :)
Love the videos, and just listening. Keep up the good work.
I use exactly this laptop. Mine doesnt even show the light when turned on on battery but will come on with the adapter and off just before booting.
Nice tutorial, and no thermal camera!
Wish this had been mine today. Asus Rog, same short on main power rail. Thermal camera showed nothing on either side of the board. Found odd reading on the gate of a dual MOSFET to CPU/GPU rails. Removed the MOSFET, short on the main rail gone. Replace MOSFET with new, short back again. Still nothing showing up on thermal cam (mind you the mosfets are rated at like 100A), decided that CPU shorted and called time on the repair. I really could have done with a 'flick off a cap and invoice' job today.
i got lucky and had the samee problem , power weeent in but no light ,i turned it around and put a pin on the little hole on the back, and felt the fan spun so i presseed for 30s and nothing , i got sad until i preessed again 2min later and boom :D
such weak thermal pads. or at least they look like that. Some thermal grizzly minus pad 8 will work in there and thermal grizzly kryonaut paste or even arctiv mx5. Salutari din Romania si mult succes in continuare !!!
What a great post. I liked the look inside the modern layout. Was waiting for meltdown at the 5 amp when it was going to ground. And loved the repair as de-solder to a toast cap. I think there is going to be a lot more of this (exact component) failure in this model. Thank you very much for the in depth view to the unit. M.
Nice job I always like the practical approach with simple tools instead of someone reading schematics and using 3-5 $k machines to fix problems...
Also I notice that
1, this is a very new machine it shouldn't have this kinda issue...
2. the GS series sucks ( I used to own one I know)
3. those capacitors are right above the GPU heat sink... one wonders if the heat sink were a bit longer and they had been cooled would it still have blown??
4. at 21:07 it appears the capacitor is also cracked... which would have been another way to find issue.....
You make repairs look easy, nice job
👍👍👍
A tantalum capacitor is a polarised capd
I notized since you first inject the voltage, it's on the ground sir .. sometimes it's happen. it's ok we need a vacation though hehe
(13:20) -- you need an infrared heat screen / lamp ... once you place power on the board under the infrared screen -- it will denote the area / part - that is overheating ... sourcing would be easier this way ...
just a suggestion for this type of application ....
:)
he said that in the video, thermal camera
and that's not a cheap product
It be nice but he don't really need it as he proved by fixing it without...
Thanks you, master Sorin!!!
Brilliant.. Saying that where can I get a electric screwdriver what's the Ref and model of.. Wish you well
that bugger was actually tantalum cap but that is small detail cheers sir well done 👍
And a tantalum capacitor is an electrolytic capacitor :)
@@SiETechNotebookReparatur I think he will not replace it with a new one or used one lol 😂
@@SiETechNotebookReparatur ok then i didn´t know that sorry my bad
@@graphicscardtech3167 i think is needed there so he need to put something there other one line of power will be gone and who knowd what that line is responcible for... or im wrong?
@@SiETechNotebookReparatur They are not even close to the same thing.
I got my laptop died too sir, nice repair by the way it's just little tiny capasitor ;)
you are the best friend!
Such nice and good explainings. Amazing job. Thank you for that video. Greet
Good job Sorin, thanks for this video.
Hello
Thanks, i liked your videos
Not shorted, But 5V and 3.3V nothing, how to check step by step?
i'm wondering why did you not replace the bad capacitor. if it was present on the board. it must be there for some reason.
As always great repair in the simplest way possible 😄
Hello sir. I hope the next video will be about repairing the charging cable that is connected to the motherboard and not the charging adapter. laptop DELL latitude e6410
After seeing some of your repair videos I am wondering why you don't seem to replace those capacitors you have found to be faulty and removed.
When you said lets push 5amps the song push it to the limit from the scarface movie started to play in my head. Nice job!
I liked to see how you found the fault. Should the electrolytic capacitor be replaced? Or is it not necessary?
@Truth Never Lies me too. i took 3 out of my dell but ceramic ones i didnt know which one it was i shouldve used his trick to find the one the went dry first but anyhow i took them all out 3 in a roll still has two small ones and had to be on main power rail it was a dead short it sparked when inserting the charger but i used it an hour last night and never had an issue stayed cool
tanks sorin
While didn't you replace the electrolytic cap ? Thought is important on the graphic power rail ?
This is ASMR for nerds and I love it
2022 and Sorin still has no thermal camera😄
I'd replace this cap... they didn't put it there for fun... i think this could cause problems or instabilty when the machine is pushed hard.
Again perfect video 🙂🙂🙂
Whoa im an amateur i just started a 3 months course basics of laptop repair .... but this msi monster looks alot diffrent it has alot of coils and alot of ics than notebooks ... the way the thermal pads are melted is weired and cpu themal past shows an imperfection in the heat sink at begining of the video you unpluged the battery and charger and you were cheking voltage wat were you doing ??
nice job
what about the electrolytic capacitor is safe to not place a new one?
Thx for the video. The Brown paste under the fan what is that. I need to open my laptop to. 23:01
why don't they request for RMA? since it's still a brand new laptop
A think this is Tantal capacitor my friend
I have a three year old Overpowered OP-LP3 Laptop. Recently the glue holding the display on failed and the display tilted down applying pressure to the connector. Not wanting to work on it myself I brought it to a shop that reinserted the connector but the display would not light up. The repairman opened up the computer and found burnt components on the motherboard. Problem is we can't find a schematic for this machine in order to identify the failed parts. Do you have any idea with to find a schematic for this Overpowered OP-LP3 Laptop? Andy advise would be greatly appreciated. It's a beautiful machine and I really need to get it working. Thank you in advance.
very nice thankyou
Thank you...!
The faulty cap had its value printed on it. Why not replace it? It would have been easy, and surely the cap is there for a reason.
Awesome catch! What brand power screw driver is that?
Mr Sorin, can you make a your shop tour video?
I sow that you put yo the ground but as you are the expert , current was going to the probes.
Wouldn't A Thermal Camera Be Extremely Helpful In Your Trouble Shooting Shorts, Etc? Thanks
Yes it is normally ceramic capacitors that go short, electrolitics tend to puff up and become useless.
Why didn't you replace the bad capacitor, surley just leaving a blank space isn't going to do the rest of the components any good?
the laptop is not under stress, so just powering it up wont use full power of the power circuit, it's safe for the just power/boot check (ultra low consuption)
@@maxxpsteady2157 ok but what about normal high power usage, thats my point of concern?
There's plenty of caps on a same rail, just not that close to the coil and mosfet. When possible, I always replace failed caps
I have same laptop as on the video. Y, G, V keys and all brackets and enter key are not working. I pushed reset button on the bottom and it helped for 2 days. Now i have the same problem. What the problem could it be? Do i need to replace whole keyboard?
Nice man.
do you think you coukd repair/replace a damaged MSI GE66 raider triode for the battery pack?
YOU NEED THE UNI-T UTI320 !!! URGENT !!
why dont buy a thermal camera for finding shorts master ?
Actually a big large capacity electrolytic capacitor.
I ruined the el cheapo version of this (G76 i5 rtx1650 on sale for 4-500 £) by trying to replace SSD with battery/power in. Dropped a screw twice, after it already did not start dropped it again on the screen connector. Sparks, dead. Clumsy, was in a hurry. Found another outlet sale G66 i5 3050 at around 600£. Can I swap the G66 mb to the G76 which has 17' screen or is this unwise when the screen connector has been shorted? (The G66 was a demo pc, battery is shot and someone seems to have pushed hard on the trackpad but that is ok, I got back a cheap gaming pc)
Why no thermal cam? Much quicker, no?
That's a Tantalum capacitor.
Mr Sorin where is your shop in the UK? Would like to send a laptop for repair to you
No power on laptop are mostely easy to repair,! anyway thank for your Vids
Why do you only remove capacitor instead of replacing it? If it’s totally useless why is it on the board ?
No they are not totally useless they have there own purposes but laptop can work absolutely fine without them so until it’s not important generally we don’t do that 😂
Hi Sorin what’s the name of your shop and where could I find you? I have a gaming lap top that needs repairing. I’ve tried looking on Google but can’t find anything.
No need for thermal camera ,thanks to the magic fingers
Do you bother replacing the cap? Cheers.
Hi, what is this substance on memories and coils? what to replace it with?
Are these caps electrolitics? ( I know these are build with tantalum )
indeed, not electrolytic, just bipolar
It is possible to get a replacement for this small thing?
Sir we want video everyday atleast please. We are your deciples. We learn a lot from you. Please upload a video if it is a very simple for you. For us it is ocean of knowledge 🙏🙏🙏
I have been whatching him for years and made fortune from his videos but still a big question in my head>
why he does not buy a thermal camera????>>>>>
If this guy offers apprenticeships I would apply in a heartbeat lmao
Well I have a similar problem with my GS65, it worked the previous night the next morning at the office, I plugged in my charger and the laptop came on automatically. The fans and keyboard light came up for few seconds while the power light was blinking slowly like when it on sleep mode and the turns off. Till this very day it won't turn on again. Please help fix it 😭😭😭
is a tantalum electrolytic?
deja vu all over again...