For VR: Did I just purchase best PC For 2024? I may have made a big mistake!
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- Want VR on your PC from your Quest 2 or Quest 3 (or any headset)? VR, or Virtual Reality on PC in 2024 is amazing. What PC computer should you build (or purchase), and what do you already have? What GPU (a 4090) should you get? What is good enough, and what is great for VR gaming, VR and PC gaming? Should you get an Nvidia 4060, 4070, 4080 or 4090? What is overkill? I've made a decision for my virtual reality experience that might be the right one, or it might go terribly wrong. I'll share all in my videos!
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VHS all the way baby! lol miss the chunkiness of VHS tapes, like I miss hidden tracks on CD's
A "vintage" person after my own heart! :)
before even seeing the video you did the right thing for me... i bought q1 and after 1 month back then i bought a 2060 laptop, after 5 6 years, i bought a q2, q3, ps5 for the realese of psvr2 a psvr2, and now a 4080 rig and on my every purchase of me being a vr enthousiast i was experiencing vr all over again, every time and vr is the best thing that happened to gaming , have fun with your new toy!!!! enjoy reliving vr all over again!!!
PCVR has been my go-to for about 7 years, and this upgrade will hopefully make it that much better. We shall see! Thanks for the great comment!
Word on the street is, when the 50's series comes out, seems to be coinciding with a supply/container problem changing the price of all imported graphics cards, a 25% increase in new GPU's all over the world, creating a GUP shortage of stock or ready in land
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. The world of GPU pricing is a very volatile and unpredictable one a lot of the time - especially Nvidia, and especially top-of the line ones. We shall see! Thanks for that!
Video taping! 😂 You just won this old guys 👍!
LOL!!!! Yeah.... uh.... did I date myself a bit with that one? LOL
I love the optimistic about saving the money excuse, I mean reasoning. But yeah, I'm with you with your decision. I'm a frugal guy but I just bought a 4080 gaming PC "JUST FOR VR" as well. ^^
LOL - yeah, I know I spent more than I should have, for sure, and I just hope I don't regret it. I don't think I will, and I admire anyone who has the skills (and confidence) to build their own and save some serious dough! Thanks for the comment!
It be worth it my friend, I'm in the process of upgrading my rig from a 3060Ti to a 4070Ti Super, I'm with you all the way my friend!
Thank you much - and I look forward to hearing about your upgrade journey through this process as well, for sure!
Looking forward to the comparison vids.
Yeah, should be very interesting, I suspect! Hopefully you subscribed and hit the bell so you're notified right when they come out. Hopefully have the computer end of next week!
I'm happy for you! Sounds like a really nice PC and I'm looking forward to you comparing the new to the old. I really enjoy your channel...keep up the good work!
Thank you so much - very kind of you! On paper, it does sound like a pretty good machine, and I'm looking forward to seeing if it lives up to expectations. I sure hope it does. Appreciate the compliments, and more videos to come. Keep VR-ing!
Me being another crazy man who spent a little bit more than that for the same specs (I got 64gb of RAM though) last year, I can tell you that we all feel like that after making the purchase. Some will say you should have waited for the next generation, but you are the only one who knows how much you have held on that upgrade so far, and if you considered now to be the time, then it is.
All I can say is that I am happy for you and excited to follow, not only your comparison videos and gameplays that will happen, but also your reaction to the new hardware's capabilities because since we have pretty much the same specs now, and I had an upgrade from a 2080 as well... I know what you are about to witness.
Thank you for the reply, and I'm glad to hear from someone who has gone through a very similar upgrade to me, for sure! I look forward to the next few weeks as I test stuff, and possibly hearing from you on those videos about how my experience compares to yours as well!
That's awesome! Hope it works nicely for you.
Currently saving a little at a time for a nice pc (probably gently used. Maybe with a 4080) after loving the quest 3. But my time won't come for about a year or so. I'll live vicariously through your testing videos.
Nothing wrong with gently used, for sure, as long as you can test it first, or return it if it doesn't run well. And a 4080 will do great for you, I'm sure! Another option would be to get a used computer now with a 2080ti or something in (much less expensive now), and then upgrade to a 4080 or something later. Just make sure the motherboard and case can hold the 4000 series cards. They are MONSTERS!
Happy for you! Although I'm starting to quickly realize that my recently purchased Quest 3 isn't "real" VR... :(
LOL - well, I wouldn't go that far at all. There are AMAZING experiences and games native to that Quest 3 that are WONDERFUL. Truly. My favs being Demeo, Asgard's Wrath II, Walkabout Minigolf, and now Max Mustard is quite fun! So much to enjoy in VR, but yes, PCVR does open up the world to even more....
I was similarly nervous and excited for a computer strictly for VR. It arrived earlier this month and is worth every penny. Mine only cost $2.5K but it has everything I need for VR. The only thing that would change in your configuration is the Ryzen 7 7800X3D processor. But your configuration is very very good :D
That is awesome, and thanks for the reassurance! Fingers crossed, and we'll see what happens once it gets here next week! Glad you're loving your PCVR as well - hopefully run into you in VR sometime!
Im happy for you! Keep up the authentic videos. Thats why I enjoy them. I can literally feel your excitement though the video.
Meanwhile Im here with my 7yo GTX1060 and 12yo i7-3770 😂. I have the money for a new one but I cant decide what to buy and how much to spend. Maybe a RTX 4070 TI Super and a suitable AMD CPU 🤔. My Monitor is still 1080p but the Quest3 cant get enough Pixel 😂
Thank you so much - and glad you're enjoying the videos for sure. More to come! And yes, I would say, pull the trigger and follow your instincts on getting a new machine. You deserve the best experience you can get and afford RIGHT NOW. Happy VR-ing!
Honestly I feel like it is a great investment and smart idea for getting it prebuilt. Can’t wait to see the next video :)
Thank you much! Will be sharing more soon!
Almost same but i9-12900k with 64GB ram. Mostly because Unity+VR and DAZ.
2x 2TB M.2 + 1x 4TB m.2 + 12TB HDD
Backups are in NAS and using Valve Index
Also using 360 Radiator to keep cpu cool then rendering lightmaps.
Nice setup! Love it! You are ready for some SERIOUS VR!
Lovely PC. Enjoy it.
Thanks, will do!
You will love PCVR. I got a 3060 about 12 months ago, ( wish I had spent a bit more) but I'm upgrading next year. Best thing I ever bought, apart from my Quest. You have to try GTA 5 in VR.
Love it! Been in PCVR since the beginning - about 7 years ago, for me, but this is an upgrade of the hardware. Hopefully a pretty big one! We shall see!
I call build it for half. And when you build, no one can take the knowledge away from you. Get it....
That is awesome, and yes, you're probably right for sure. I'm sure I paid a good amount more for this than I had to, but hopefully it will be worth it.
@@jollyjulian I do understand you though
Well I will say the New Ultra 9 Intel processors & New RTX 5090s will be coming out Later this Year or Early Next Year, but the specs in a 4k can't be too bad, I usually wait a long time B4 I upgrade my PC I still have the gtx 1080ti & older i7 I still play plenty of VR just fine on that system. I will be building a New System when those massive leaps of the next gen stuff comes out.
Love that! Yeah, that will be a MASSIVE upgrade, no doubt about it, my friend! I thought about waiting another year or so, but just figured now was the time. Debated waiting a LOT. I don't blame you for waiting - may be a wise choice in the long run!
@@jollyjulian ya I have felt the same pressure too fighting my head, although I do need a Laptop I have thought about using that as a loophole in my mind to get something more powerful then my current PC set up in the meantime. & if this guy im messaging about trading his Super Top of the line Gaming Laptop for a Car I have that I don't use I'm gonna do it haha its a crazy world indeed.
Hope it works out & I'm looking forward to the video on Your channel talking about the VR proformence of the new PC You ordered.
You did make a great decision with that pc. Youll be able to play vr on high and practically all other games on ultra. I also made that with an ABS pc from Newegg similar specs just i have 3 tbs of ssd storage and a 4080 and otd $2900. And it runs games and vr no problems and on high and ultra. In my opinion i think alienware is expensive and hard to upgrade with how they set up their cases. But still i think you made a great decision. Cant wait to see the next video
Thank you so much for the comment, and I do hope that upgrading in the future won't be a problem, but that's a good point! More videos coming once the computer is in!
Im sure you will enjoy your purchase, I deffo would, Im gonna keep watching, lets see how much you WILL enjoy. Love to see you play a bit of Half Life Alex, I only have a MSI RTX2060 laptop and that runs nice on low settings. ENJOY, ENJOY, ENJOY😜
Thank you for this - so far, liking it very much! More videos to come soon on details and some game play to show what's going on....
If you buy a comp for VR, also buy VR glasses with DP.
Yeah, display port is a thing. I'm really into playing wirelessly of late (although I came from the valve Index, so used to wired as well). Quest 3 has been great for me, but I'm sure display port would also be an improvement. Thanks for the comment!
@jollyjulian always have lack with my pic4 via usb c. with my v pro2 I play at 120 hertz without lack. Notice it most with sim
Just bought my first ever gaming PC specifically for VR, already being a PSVR2 and standalone VR player. Never ventured into PC before. Got the same i9 14900 but could only stretch to a 4080super. Should be good enough for most experiences I hope. Bit concerned about the lower VRAM than some other cards but wanted to go Nvidia. If anyone wants to reassure me all will be fine that would be great haha 😂
I think you made a great choice, and I'm still questioning whether going the 4090 (at almost a grand more) was the smart thing. Maybe the 4080 Super would have been just fine. I think you're going to have a fantastic experience! Congrats, and welcome to the world of PCVR!
What about the Apple Vision Pro headset? That is as close to getting that PC experience at almost the same price,right?
A great question, and as amazing as the Apple Vision Pro seems to be, it's no where near the VR experience you will get from a great PC wired or streaming to a VR headset. Not even close. I'm sure it's quite the headset, but it's not made for gaming, and it's no where near powerful enough to do what a PC for VR can do for the same amount of money. Love the question, though!
Those are some sick specs on that PC! If you're going to be using that thing like on the daily, I don't think you really made a mistake going for the top of the line. The only thing I have to say is that I did not have a good experience with my Dell. Thing was so much louder than my current PC even though it was so much weaker. My favorite prebuild I've bought was from MSI, but prebuilts are kind of bit or miss in general: MSI has made some with horrible cases and even shipped them with bad windows installs before. I think it all depends on the model, and I happened to get one of the most reliable models MSI sells luckily. Hoping your Dell will be much better than my old one and knock your socks off! Plus I wouldn't be worried since you have that guarantee (I don't remember mine having that :/ )
Great points, and the noise issue is something I will take a look at for sure once it's hear. hope it's not loud! Ready to test this thing out when it gets here! Hopefully in the next few days at most.
If your psychology is anything like mine in that situation then I'd like to make a fun prediction that you will realize that you can use the new machine for a while until the novelty wears off and then return it and wait for the 5000 series and buy that instead. I like to optimize all my purchases from Amazon and I will quickly return items and get something else if during the return period I find an item that is even better. I just admit my mistakes without any shame or guilt and correct later. I once sequentially ordered 4 Dell pc's, cancelling 3 of them until I got one I liked. I then upgraded the inferior cooling and made some other mods and it has served me well ever since. Cheers!
You know, being a PRIME member, I considered just that, due to their incredible return policy. Amazon has made a lot of money on me over the years with that return policy, as more often than not, I don't return. But when it doesn't live up, I do. I almost bought one through them, but then I thought - - - I don't like that I can get it literally in 2 days (great, normally), but I figured that meant it had been sitting in a hot warehouse for who-knows-how-long, and maybe wasn't built as well as HOPEFULLY the Dell one will be, as they claim they are building it right now. Hence why I won't have it till end of next week. We shall see! Thanks for the comment!
lol I'm video editing on a 1060 3GB Vram card......oh man does it hurt editing
Oh yeah - been there, my friend! My advice, if you can remotely afford it, upgrade as soon as you can. If you do a good amount of video editing, it is money very well spent, as it saves a lot of time and frustration. No need to go full 4090 on it, but an upgrade even to a 3000 series will probably make a big difference. Depending on how much ram you have for you CPU as well, of course.
All id say is the bulk of the cost is in the graphics card, you got a 4090, which is expensive, but thats probably one of the best you can get. the price feels like the top end of the ballpark.
Yeah, it was almost HALF the cost of the whole machine and build! Crazy how much that card still costs. I probably could have gone 4080 and been fine and saved about a grand, but kept coming back to wanting the best I could get now, without waiting for 5000 series cards. We shall see! Thanks much.
Nope, NOT a mistake! Hi Julian^^ If i had that kinda dough i would have done the same, except for getting me a Bigscreen headset on top. Consider this... You may have bought yourself the private island you were always dreaming about - just cheaper ;) I just got into VR with my Quest 3 (literally a few days ago - after hestitating for several years) and i don't regret that. It just made me hungrier for more. I have only a few years to pension now (I'm turning 61 this month) and i plan to travel after my job...travel a lot...on my PC! Just keep in mind that the Machine you just bought will be "obsolete" in about 6 months. 🤣 So go ahead, have fun and keep us posted, i'm eager to see what's gonna happen. Best regards from Germany! Oh, and you should consider geting a bigger shirt - the top button is stretching^^ Buying your machine from Dell might not be as silly as some people think. The single components for a PC may be a little cheaper, but if you count the expertise needed to actually build that machine, you're probably right on par with storebought.
Thank you much for all of this! And I laughed about your "shirt" comment - yeah, either the shirt is a little too small... or.... LOL! Time to hit the cardio in VR! More Synthriders for the burn! Wonderful that you just got into VR with the Quest 3 and are loving it so much. Totally appreciate that this machine will no longer be near the "top" in about 6 to 12 months, but I also know that, I most likely won't upgrade again for another 5 - 8 years (knowing me)... LOL! Should get my money's worth in that time, but we shall see. Appreciate the comment!
Gotta say it, don't hate me.....will it run Crisis on high graphics lol Someone needs to create Crisis VR
Love it! LOL.... no hate at all on that!
Eating ramen noodles is a great way to shorten your life
Yeah, maybe I'll go for something a bit healthier, but cheap.... um.... SPAM? LOL
Did NOT make a mistake!! Alienware is top notch and I'm totally with you on having an expert building the computer.
Once I realized that PC VR is the way to truly experience VR, Hubby went on a hunt for an already built computer with the specs being just high enough to make PCVR Steam work for money that we have but it's difficult to pull out of wallet amount.
I'm anxious to see the differences between the two computers. :)
Thank you much, and I'm anxious to get it and find out if this was a good decision. There are so many things to take into consideration. Really looking forward to testing the two systems out against each other. Thanks much!
I swear I made a comment but i cant find it.... the gist was feel free to drop big bucks on a prebuilt, just not from dell/alienware. They are known to have some bad overheating issues, expensive proprietary parts if you ever need a replacement out of warranty, and iffy warranty support while you have it. Maybe look into nzxt build or anywhere else the wind takes you but those alienware/dell cases will thermal throttle you down to below rtx 4080 levels of performance if i rememeber the gamers nexus videos correctly.
Thank you for that, my friend! Sadly, already purchased the DELL / ALIENWARE one, and it just got here! Will be testing for sure, and will let you know what I find out. Hopefully was a good decision, but so many options out there! Appreciate it... :)
@@jollyjulian excited to see your followup then! but dont be afraid to use that return policy 👍
I think you hit the nail on the head with pretty much everything you say in this video. You are paying a premium for Dell. You could save yourself something like $1000 and also have a better machine if you built it yourself. People who live and breathe the nuts and bolts of PC will be mystified by someone not choosing to do that.
But you represent what the majority of people face when they think about buying a PC. It's not just the cost in dollars but even more so the deep rabbit hole they see that they'll need to go down which represents a substantial commitment of time and effort.
Or they could just buy a Dell.
What you're paying for is Dell's warranty and support and dealing with the nuts and bolts so you don't have to.
The other option is system integrators, but these options usually ultimately end up with the user having to still dive into the nuts and bolts themselves anyway, having to correct whatever the SI messed up.
As for $4000... it's all about bang per buck. When you're using VR every day for hours, the bang per buck is going to be higher than most anything else in your life you also spend money on. Even for high end stuff. VR has high initial cost but almost zero ongoing costs. So in reality, virtual reality is cheap!
Everything you said here - YES! I agree, 100%, and who knows - in another 5 to 10 years, maybe I will be building my own! I've already learned SO much more about computers than I ever thought I would because of my love for perfecting the VR experience, and that might carry over to a bit more DIY going forward. Thank you so much for your comment, and I can tell it comes from someone who loves VR as much as I do!
@@jollyjulian try your hand at a cheap diy build to get your feet wet! you can put together a chinese x99 build for maybe 400$ as a seperate stream/nas pc or something like that. theres too many options but its honestly only a week of learning to be fully in the diy space, no need to wait 10 years 👍
Great specs but bad timing. New CPUs are expected in Q3/Q4 and new GPUs in Q1 2025.
I would have waited unless you really need it right now.
Yeah, it's risky timing, of that I agree. At the same time, I didn't really want to wait any longer, and without knowing price and specs for the new CPU / GPU, I just felt it might be time to pull the trigger. however, you may be right - we shall see! Appreciate the comment!
@@jollyjulian That’s totally understandable and there is always something better around the corner.
But prepare for some tweaking to get msfs running properly. VR Flight Sim Guy has some good settings guides for VR
Love this. Yes, I expect that, even with a hopefully much superior machine, I will still need to tweak for that beast that is MSFS2020. I've never seen a more resource-intensive "game!" I'm ready! (I think.... LOL)
No such things as bad timing. That's 6 months away. 6 months you could be playing. Buy the best you can at the time. Unless you are one or two months away from a new release. I just upgraded my PC 3 months ago for my Quest 3. Just today I've played 8 hrs. I have no regrets. But I'm definitely swapping my 4080 for a 5090 next year and maybe CPU M/B & memory. But so far I've had hundreds of hours of fun. Worth every cent. I do build my boxes myself though.
@@simonoregan4744 If you're planning to upgrade then sure.
I just think that the current hardware is close but not quite there to run current sims without too much compromises. And upcoming high res / fov headsets will make things even harder, so a upgrade to a 50 series GPU will become tempting quite soon.
For "normal" VR Games it's of course more than enough for the next few years.
But that's just my personal opinion (also 4080 owner with plans to upgrade 😅)