Upgrade to Quest 3, or wait for new VR headset coming sooner than we thought? Answers are here!
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- Is the Quest 3 the right headset to buy right now in Summer of 2024, or should you wait for the NEW Meta Quest headset coming later this year? The answer may surprise you, and we'll dive into all the details here.
Upgrading from Quest 2, or Valve Index, or Vive, or Vive Pro (or maybe even an old Rift or Rift)? You may be wondering about the new QUEST 3S that has been announced, and how that impacts whether you should jump on a Quest 3 right now. I reveal all my thoughts here in detail!
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when i was in 8th grade a put together a whole slideshow to convince my mom to buy me a vive it was over 15 pages with the chores id do to pay for it and comparisons to other brands as well as games that i could only play in vr . That Christmas she got me one of the headsets you put your phone inside despite being a little bummed about it me and my younger siblings still had a lot of fun with it. we pinned blankets to the ceiling to make walls for a mini maze in my room and put horror youtube vr videos on while we tried to make our way to the other side of the room while everyone else was trying to whisper, poke ,and spook the person with the headset on. there is no point to this story other than sharing a core memory to this day thats the only vr experience ive had im now grateful i got to share that with my sisters
I love this story so much, and the fact that you bargained with mom for a VR headset like that! 15 pages - you should publish that somewhere! I think VR fans like me would love to read it - see what an 8th grader who really wants VR will do! And the way you worked real-world into VR experiences even with that "phone" VR - that's awesome! THE VOID would have been proud! Keep VR-ing, and hope to run into you in VR someday!
Don't waite for the Quest 3s, its gonna have worse lenses & other downgrades. You can get a Used Quest 3 (thats what I did) I was gonna waite for Quest 4 to upgrade from the quest 2 but the clarity & the price i got the qust 3 for I couldn't wait. Its a worthy upgrade, then the Quest 3s is gonna yank away most of the gains from the Quest 3 putting it closer to a just more powerful Quest 2.
Such a fantastic upgrade in nearly every way from the Quest 2, which was already great. Quest 3s won't be as good, but will be cheaper. I agree with you!
I see the Quest 3s similar to the Xbox Series S and Series X. Basically similar build to Quest 3 but with cheaper parts and features.
That seems fair - yes, a good comparison, although this is coming from someone who's never been in the Xbox world. Thanks for the comment!
@@jollyjulianHave you ever tried the Woojer Vest with the Quest? If not I would strongly suggest you get one because the haptic feedback from it while playing the games takes the fun to a whole new level😊
A friend borrowed me his Quest 2, even with a better headstrap i got headache after a while, but it showed me what i loved about VR when i got my first headset, the Vive in 2016.
After i tried his new Quest 3 i decided against buying his old Quest 2.
The main reason is the mixed reality quality, even if some people had different expectations, it gives me the feeling of being not too disconnected and since i still have problems with motion sickness in games with artificial movements / without teleportation etc. mixed reality is giving me access to more options of games i can play for longer comfortably.
Games like Track Craft, Miracle Pool Synth Riders in MR is the stuff i don't want to miss.
Together with the improved performance, resolution and pan cake lenses, i have the feeling the Quest 3 surpassed a threshold from a device i want to use only occasionally to a device i am use more regularly. MR is my personal game changer.
Such a great point about the power (and potential power) of mixed reality for helping with feeling at all sick when playing VR. I do believe that most people can overcome that uncomfortable feeling in VR if they do some things right, and play with it for a little bit each day for a few days, but MR really helps by anchoring you in space, and having the only movement be YOU moving in actual space. That helps more than anything. Great comment - thanks!
I would prefer saving your money to get a quest 3 because quest 3 S is a downgraded over quest 3. I even want an upgraded quest 3 now we get a down grade? Nope sorry not for me.
100% agreed! Yes yes... and yes!
The lenses made the 3 worth getting alone i dont think ill ever go back😂
Upgraded from Quest 2 to Quest 3. Play a lot of DCS. Absolute game changer. I can read all of gauges in my VR cockpit now.
What are your pc specs
Fantastic! Yes, that makes such a huge difference with the quest 3 - being able to read the gauges well!
Have you tried the pico 4? im trying to figure out whats the best i can get for pcvr that wont drain my wallet and be as comfortable as possible
I wish I could try one, but not able to get one here in the U.S., unless I go through a huge customs thing and try to find someone somewhere else to get one for me and ship it.... uggggg
@@jollyjulian, I got Pico 4 new through eBay from a seller in Japan (do NOT buy the Chinese version if you live in the US, and possibly Canada; the Chinese version has several restrictions that make it very hard to use without substantial tinkering, courtesy of the Chinese government). Took the seller several days to send it, as they warned, but once they did send it, it got to me in California shockingly fast.
Got to say, my Pico 4, of the headsets I have, is my favorite to use. Once I found the fit for the facial interface, and bought AMVR's somewhat overpriced "halo" headstrap attachment, I found it extremely comfortable to wear for a longer time, and it's great for games that include a lot of movement, like exercise games and apps.
The Pico is much better balanced than the Quest 3--which I have and quite like, by the way--and it has substantially better binocular overlap, so you see more of whatever you're looking at through both lenses at once.
Really, my only, and biggest, problem with is that the library, though growing, just isn't big enough, and--of course, there are exclusives on the Meta headsets that Pico is very unlikely to ever get. Some people complain that it's not as bright as the Quest 3, nor are the colors as bright, but honestly, I haven't had a problem with that.
If you're using it largely for PCVR, though, I think you simply can't beat the Pico 4... but that's my experience.
I'm waiting with baited breath for the Pico 4S to come out, as, according to The Mysticle, it's been certified in South Korea.
@@jollyjulian i just got a used one on ebay for a good price, but decided ultimately on the quest 3 for software reasons (hand tracking). it's a good upgrade option if you want pancake lenses and the battery in the back makes it comfortable and balanced
Definitely Upgrade!
Today I Decided To Turn My Q3 On After Maybe 1 Week Long Break..
There Was A Update And That Always Is A wonderful Greeting But Wait Back To The Q3/Q3s. I Believe If You're Upgrading From The Q2 To The Q3s It's Spiffy Move But If The Option For The Q3 Is Available For Purchase? Get It ✨ You Won't Be Disappointed.
Agreed, for sure. Quest 3s will be an upgrade for Quest 2, but the Quest 3 still rules the Quest line, at least for now! Come on Quest 4! LOL
Quest 3 is the best headset out there period. PCVR headsets aren't even an option for most people, and if someone wanna try PCVR they can try it with a Q3 and then invest such an amount for premium priced PCVR device.
I really agree - for the price, and all that it can do, there's nothing out there like it. Between standalone, PCVR (wireless or wired), a great game library, fantastic updates and continued support: Quest 3 is it. And at a price that no one else can match.
I use my Quest 3 for Mixed Reality apps and games and I use my PSVR2 for VR games as the graphics are a next level to the Quest 3 but I tend to use my Quest 3 more as I use it for different things like producing music, Fitness and as a Mixed Reality Cinema with the UA-cam app and occasionally the bigscreen app
Media consumption and mixed reality are two GREAT uses for the Quest 3 for sure. Two of my favorite things as well. Great points!
you are right. I just got Q3 and it am blown away by its Pancake lens..... focus is way more clearer than Q2. I think this lens alone worths $300
Yes! Right?! Quite amazing - enjoy, my friend!
It's so cool!
When I got my Q3 last December, I had sold the 2 to a friend and when he came to pick it up he asked if he could try the new one, but I promptly denied because, if he had used the Q3 then he could have given up buying my old one and rather save a bit more for the upgrade.
And I think that the only reason why someone could wait for the Q3S is if they were planning to get the 2 but don't mind waiting for a similar device with updated internals... Like you said, the lenses, the sweet spot is what makes the upgrade worthy for anyone willing to use it more often. I'm moving to a new house and with almost everything boxed I can't play my Quest 3 right now, anyway... I'm first in line to check your new setup arriving soon, cheers.
i really don't wish to be your friend, respecfully
He might be telling everyone VR is a gimmik for your move. What a friend!
I hope your friend sees this 😂
@@thestonecoldbottom he doesn't have to he been knew about it since it happened to him.....
Geez guys, that part was just a figure of speech, my friend stayed over for a whole weekend and tried the Q3 for hours. That was how I convinced him in the first place...
What are the chances there is at least 1 or 2 features of the Q3S that is some kind of improvement on something on the current Q3?...i get it's supposed to be cheaper. But there hasnt been a single sequential Quest yet from 1-2-Pro-3 that hasn't had some kind of improvement from the previous even if it was cheaper.
...i hope not bc i dont want to feel obligated to buy it bc something like passthrough is improved with slightly better cameras or something
There's always the chance, but I feel like it's pretty slight. However, if there's anything that could be an improvement, maybe it would be in the passthrough area? Different cameras / software that increase the resolution of it a bit or something. Possible, but I doubt it. I think we're good to go with the Quest 3 for a little while.
Thanks for the info, I am glad you said go q3 as mine are due to arrive today, I have been using gear vr for about 9 years but it died last week so I thought it was time to upgrade.
Oh, are you in for an AMAZING treat! Exciting that you'll have that headset soon - so happy for you! If you want any suggestions for experiences in the Quest 3, check out some of my other videos, where I talk about the best experiences (IMHO) based on whatever game / experience type you like. Happy VR-ing!
I would compare using the quest 2 after trying the quest 3 to moving from 1440p back to a 1080p display
A good analogy! Yes!
The Q3s will have the cheaper fresnel lens instead of pancake lenses, otherwise all the other specs are the same as Q3. Get the Q3s over Q2, but not over Q3 if you can afford it.
You summarized it very well.
Very true - agreed, 100%. Quest 3 is the way to go, if $500 is doable at all.
Thank you much!
Your excitement is next level.
Yeah, I do love this stuff, and thanks so much for the comment! Now, I'm tired, and need to get to bed. LOL!
The Q3S will be inferior to the Q3, pancake vs fresnell example, better to buy a refurbed 3 on Meta to save money or on eBay
100% agree - for me, the optics of Quest 3 are just stellar, especially for a $500 headset - love it!
Quest 3S is ass. Still using the worse ipd adjustment like the Quest 2. I rather buy normal Quest 3 or something else
Yeah... True
Not even gonna have pancakes
@@4.0.7.7 I can live with old fresnel lenses but 3 positions ipd adjustment is simply a scam for people who waited. 3 positions ipd is one of the worse part of Quest 2 and it should be the last time thet included it
Yeah, I'm not going to be in line for the 3s, but boy do I love my Quest 3!
@@jollyjulianthen why did you make the video 😭
Great video. The only thing I would recommend is turning down the background music some it’s too loud compared to your voice
Thanks for the heads-up on that one! I'll try to get that balance a bit better in the future!
As a Quest 3 owner I say you’re missing out if you don’t have one. I’m an OG who has been playing video games since they came out in the 70’s and have been a console guy since I got pong for Xmas. The Q3 is what I hoped for, gone are the thousands of hours playing, in VR an hour well more than enough to satisfy my endorphin rush and make me need a nice nap.
I'm so there with you! I remember my first computer games in the late 70s, and wow - look how far we've come! Thanks for sharing that, and I, too, love VR so much - just pulls me in in a way I've never experienced in my "over 50 years" on this planet!
in the uk,,, PICO 4 All-in-One VR Headset 128GB is sold for £339,, it too has pancake lenses
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maybe the 3s will be a 3,,,, just using better or mk2 manufacturing techniques allowing it to be made cheaper
if i was making the 3s, i would also want to get rid of the controllers,, as they limit what you can do
Word is Q3s will have the case of the 2....so it's basically a Quest 2.5
Anything is possible! It does seem that it's going to go back to the Q2 fresnel lenses, sadly, but we can certainly hope! Also, for me, I would miss the controllers. Really need them for the majority of the things I play in VR...
Bro your vids are great man
Thank you so much for that - very kind! I do plan to keep them coming, hope you'll enjoy others as well!
what's his name again?
His.... who?
I still use the Quest 2 and love it...I also have a dedicated PCVR Headset in the Pimax Crystal
That's awesome - the Q2 is still a great headset, no question about that! How do you like the Pimax Crystal?
@@jollyjulian Crystal is awesome no Question about it!! I Got Crystal when it was still in the teething stage.. returned my first one ! However the next one was Great and a number of updates has made it a go to Headset..I'm up in the air about the Wide Fov lenses, will just wait and see...I also pre purchased the 60G wireless Dongle..I have a pretty good Rig..Rtx 4090 and I913900k
Fantastic video, thank you!
My pleasure - thanks for the comment!
I subbed & like, cuz u older an seem like u really into these. I barely know Quest stuff. Mainly a Playstation guy = PSVR1 & PSVR2
Love it - thanks much. Yeah, I really dig this VR stuff, and having been through all the ages of computer games, this has really sparked a LOVE I never knew was possible! thanks for the sub!
Bro you need to try contractors showdown
And blade and sorcery new update
I do need to try Blade & Sorcery! Been keeping my eye on that one, and it might be time! Oh, and I do play Contractors Showdown - so fun! I'm not very good at it, but love it!
If I had to make a choice right now, I'd argue for waiting for the newer Quest 3 "S" or whatever it is. It'll be cheaper and likely lack the MR stuff. And as far as the MR stuff goes - it's nice to have but hardly as of yet a needed feature in Quest. So if you can save a couple hundred by leaving it out, go for it.
Totally understand saving every dollar possible. That is a smart thing, and I can't argue with that. And I'm sure the Quest 3s will be a very strong headset for the money as well. For me, if anyone can rationalize the extra money, the Quest 3 is still what I would recommend, but get where you're coming from. Thanks for sharing that!
@@jollyjulian for me… I love the MR. I use it a lot when I do workouts. It’s cool in litesports. That said… when playing games I prefer full VR. Mainly because looking at my house and being reminded of the mortgage is terrifying enough - no need to layer zombies onto it.
Get the PSVR 2 and the PC adaptor. One headset that works on two platforms with uncompressed video.
With HDR on PS5. Not playing RE4 or Villiage on Quest without a decent PC & a mod. Gran Turismo, Switchback, Synapse Ps5 only as well. Alien, Metro, Wanderer, Behemoth, Low-Fi, Zombie Army, all going to look better on Playstation them stand alone, same goes for games out like Crossfire, Hubris etc.
You know, I would be 100% on board with that, if the PSVR 2 had those great lenses. But, by all accounts, a great headset. If they can get the full haptics of the PSVR 2 working in Steam, that will be a game changer!
@@jollyjulian what games support eye tracking on Steam? Quest isn't HDR or eyebtracking either, but PSVR has those features on PS5 at least.
You haven't tried Pico 4 then, it's better than Quest 3 in terms of hardware at least
Yeah, I would LOVE to try one, but still can't get it (easily) here in the states, so will have to wait. But I've heard it's quite a wonderful headset!
This video came out just in time. looking to upgrade from Index to.... Quest 3, keeping index controllers/FBT. just want something wireless and not 5 years old. Valve doesnt seem too interested in competing in a competitive market and has not said anything about a new index 2.0. if there was any light at the end of that tunnel i would just wait for the index 2 and see what it offers because we all know its going to set the bar high again.
Completely there with you - if Valve had anything concrete on the horizon, I would maybe wait to see what they are doing, but I just don't see anything coming from them soon. We could be wrong, but even then, I'm not sure it will compete with the Quest 3 on cost vs. benefits. hard one to beat right now. Glad the video is helping you make a decision going forward! Happy VR-ing!
@@jollyjulian i agree with the cost/benefits and keeping the win on meta's side for that. Index will more than likely just do the same things but do them better, while inventing new benefits that you cant get anywhere else, like with what Index brought. a conversation could be had about what launch title valve would use. they had Alex before, i wouldn't mind seeing a Left4Dead type game designed for VR brought back and done well. but back to the point, while i do think Valve will blow the lid off of VR again, i just dont think it will change the market much from the status quo.
I plan on getting a quest 3
I don't think you will be sorry at all with that!
I just got my Pimax Crystal Light headset the other day and Wow, it makes my Quest 3 look bad. I already have all the Base stations and Controllers so I went with the light house face plate version with local dimming version. I can gladly say this headset is a legit upgrade. Best visuals I have ever seen in a VR headset. 😉👌
No wireless do clunky and weird lol
@@blanka4545 Yes, it is a Legit PCVR headset that requires to be plugged into a GPU via DisplayPort. So Yes, it isn’t wireless and as for looks. Yes, the looks are deceiving because this headset is actually more comfortable than my Quest 3 and My Quest Pro. Yes, it is weird! I know!
The Quest 3 is a wonderful standalone headset with great mixed reality experiences. And the bonus of being able to plug into a PC via USB cable or wirelessly with several different options. I ❤️ my Quest 3. It is the Best bang for your buck, I believe everyone should own one of these. I have the 512GB version.
But, the Pimax Crystal Light offers the Best visuals I have ever seen. I been playing Ghost of Tsushima and Cyberpunk 2077 in VR with it and Wow, it is Magnificent! 😉👌
@blanka4545 Yes, it is a legit PCVR headset that has to be plugged into the GPU (RTX4090) via Displayport. It's not a cheap cellphone on your face. Quest 3 is a wonderful way to get into VR if you're on a budget. Pimax Crystal Light is a high-end HMD for people looking to upgrade. Nothing out there offers these kinds of visuals at a much more affordable price.
As for looks, you can't judge a book by its cover. Looks are deceiving. It is actually more comfortable than both my Quest Pro and My Quest 3. I know it is weird that something looking so big can feel so good. My Quest 3 has overheated on me many times while playing. I bought the 512GB Version on my birthday of last year. Hopefully, it will not break on me. But, so far, I have been able to turn off and let it cool down, and it will work again. 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️❤️🕹🎮🎬🎞🎥🚽😉👌
That is awesome to hear! I've really been wondering about that PIMAX CRYSTAL, but just couldn't bring myself to get one, based on the bad customer service and such from Pimax. They promise a lot, and rarely deliver, but this one sounds like they may have HIT IT! Nice!
@jollyjulian Yes, they really got smart and stepped their game up. I wasn't planning on buying another headset, let alone a Pimax Crystal. Because, after watching reviews of it. It didn't impress me much. I was already happy with my Quest Pro and Quest 3 using as a PCVR headset. But, once I heard about the Redesigned Pimax Crystal Light. Offering everything I actually wanted, which was a legit PCVR upgrade. I decided to get it and give it a try. And boy, oh boy, I am glad I did. If you think the Quest 3 looks good. Just wait until you see this HMD. Right away, I noticed how clear everything was. I mean, it feels like I can read text miles away it is so Crystal clear. I wasn't expecting it to be this good. The detail you can see far away makes up for the FOV I lost in my Pimax5KSuper headset, and being able to not have to worry about charging a battery is wonderful. I don't play my VR games standing or moving around a lot. So the wire doesn't bother me. But, it is long enough to still move around. This HMD is made for people who already have a lot invested and want a visual upgrade. Yes, it looks much better than the Quest 3. But, the Quest 3 is still the Better Bang for your Buck.
I have a powerful PC with a 4090, so I figured why not get the best visuals as well. I work hard for my money. Might as well enjoy it.
Note: if you asked me if it was worth it. I would gladly say, Money Well Spent! 😉👌😁👍🙋🏻♂️🫶
I've never seen a bigger "my fellow teenagers' in my life.
LOL - not sure what that means, but I'll take it! :)
Well this video is much better than the teens cranking out bad YT content. I'll take it!
I am looking forward to the Quest 4 as I am hoping it will be as much of an upgrade as the Quest 3 was to the Quest 2, I am expecting Oled, eye tracking and slightly higher resolution as well as at least a 25 to 50% performance increase and at least a 50% larger battery system as these days four hours is the minimum a Headset or Battery unit should last.
I bought my Quest 3 last October as soon as it was available to buy as it was finally worth buying a VR headset, I had tried every VR Headset to date and even bought the VFX1 back in the mid 90's.
It took a while to finally get to a point where there was so close to no flyscreening and watching a Movie using the Headset was worthwhile.
The next upgrade should remove the very small amount of pixelation that is still barely visible and being able to clip on prescription lenses makes all the difference for us glasses wearing people :).
We are finally at the stage where VR is worth buying and everyone that has tried my Headset has gone onto buy a Q3 for themselves, I also bought a Q3 for each of my Grand children as it's cheap enough to buy as a Birthday or Xmas present, unlike another Brand that likes to rip people off, that I won't mention ;) damn fruit vendors ;)
Boy, do I hope you're right. I hope that the Quest 4, whenever we do get one, will incorporate the things you've listed here, while keeping with the pancake lenses and color passthrough. I am glad to see VR keep moving forward, and the Quest line has helped with all of that for sure. I do believe we will see a resurgence in PCVR over the next 5 years or so as well, but the Quest 3 is great for that too! I use it every day, and have never regretted the purchase. Thanks for the great comment!
I love the quest 3 it's awesome but I want to upgrade to the Pimax crystal Light because I only use the Quest 3 for DCS...I may consider selling the quest 3 if anyone is interested...
I'd love to hear how you feel the Crystal compares overall. I had a "not great" experience with previous Pimax headset, so I tend to stay away from them, but hope they can make things work, as they are really one of only a few still going over higher-end PC VR for consumers.
I heard quest 3 has wifi problems that came with v63.
Interesting - I have not noticed that at all on my end. Have seemed to have perfect WIFI.... on v66 now, maybe it was a brief hiccup?
I read it in forums mb you have a solution and i have that problem either. At first thx for your answer , i rent a shadow pc for this month and i use for connection virtual desktop and it shows me that booth devices are not in the same network. I played half life alyx and the only problem is all 5-10 min the q3 disconnected for 2 secs out of the game. First i thougt its because of the network but there are many cases with local pcs either .
The VFX1 back in the mid 90's was $2000AU so a $799 128GB version today is cheap as chips and not even comparable in price, same as a Vic 20 back in the early 80's was $699AU so a Console today for around the same price is also dirt cheap as money doesn't get worth more over time ;)
Great points - agree with you there. Wonderful way to look at it!
I dig the background music 😎🤘
Well, thank you! A little funk for the video, I think, is a good thing! :)
Don't forget about the pico 4s comming soon
Is there a 4s coming from Pico? Do wish we could get those here in the states, but not sure how I feel about ByteDance overall as a company. I know, Meta may be questionable too.... LOL
I have the Quest 1, 2 and now 3 (no I didn't sell the old ones) and I have a Pico4. Quest2 was great, is still not bad, but compared to the 2, the Quest3 is awesome: better visuals, better sound (funny that nearly nobody talks about that), wider FOV, sharp all over... pass through is much, much better and of course it has a faster chip... The Quest2 is good for people with a small budget and like to try the 2, but if you can afford it... Quest3 it is.
Yes yes yes! Agreed for sure. And you definitely have a lot of experience with headsets as well to base that opinion on! Thanks for sharing!
If you haven't upgraded from a quest 2 already than just upgrade to q3 no need to wait if they don't have pancakes. I like pancakes. Pancakes
Pancakes are good. Damn it. Now I'm hungry.... YES AND YES!
I have both Quest 3 and Pico 4. Quest 3 is now collecting dust and Pico 4 is with me every day and travelling overseas. Pico 4 is reasonably cheaper. I had bought at S$330 and Quest 3 at S$720. I like using Pico 4 to watch VR videos as well.
What makes the Pico better? Can it be standalone?
I do wish I could easily get my hands on a PICO 4.... sadly, I cannot. What did you feel made it better overall from the Quest 3? Very curious and interested!
@@MKxFoxtrotxlllIt has all the functions of Quest 3 except for the passthrough auto sensing of play boundary. It is a standalone.
@@jollyjulianLots of things better than Quest 3. Quest 3 USB port sucks and need external software and cannot function as smoothly as Pico 4 in its USB.
Pico 4 beside cheaper, so much lighter infront and can wear long hours, it has most function of Quest 3. If given a second chance to buy, I would advise new user to VR/MR reality to buy Pico 4 to experience this new reality with low budget. Whatever Andriod phone can do, Pico 4 can do as well but not necessary for Quest 3.
I have bought the quest 3
youtube didn't made the like button rainbow :(
I actually want PSVR 2, I have PSVR 1 & a PS5 but im certain Sony will either release a new bundle or maybe even a new version of the headset, and maybe, just maybe the slim model with pancake lenses, as they already made one for work but not for gaming. Going to see what transpires through til February when the headset has been on the market for 2 full years, but I kinda want one now, as lots of great games are coming like Wanderer, Alien, Metro, Behemoth & more. Quest 3? Yea I don't have a PC & I'm not going backwards to PS3 graphics. Maybe Quest 4 might hold my intrest.
Completely understandable on all counts, especially with you being in the PSVR ecosystem already. That would be great if Sony would release a PSVR2 v2 with pancake lenses, but I feel like they are kind of abandoning the PSVR at the moment. Hoping I'm wrong. Really want them in the game!
@@jollyjulian I think Sony is making cuts to keep the business afloat, not abandoning. Abandonment would be not investing in a PC adapter, or investing in 2 new 1st Party exclusives, or 2nd Party exclusives like Aces of Thunder & likely, Resident Evil 9, & more. It's barely year 2, & Sony dropped 7 1st & 2nd Party exclusives in 2023, so the narrative is off IMO.
Quest 3 just went on sale also. Makes it even more of a better choice
Are you talking the "refurbished" models for $50 off? That is not a bad deal!
@@jollyjulian yeah and still have a 1year warranty. I've had my quest 2 since launch but this year was declared disabled and had to sale it. If my finances ever recover I will buy a quest 3. Good stuff will definitely sub man
When how much?
Depends on budget and that kind of performance they want decent performance for low price then sure but best performance up to date and not a budget then q3 yeah!
Great stream
Thank you much -really appreciate it. I love this stuff - hopefully you can tell!
I aint waiting for meta, i'm waiting for the deckard
I will admit, if and when the Deckard comes from Valve, I'm sure I'll be investing in that - providing it's as much a leap forward as the Index was when it came out! Come on VALVE - we want you!
julian, i want to open your mind for a sec, rewatch this video on mute and only watch your hands, what do you see?
LOL - uh oh, what did I miss? I mean, other than the fact that I talk with my hands... like... a lot! LOL!
@@jollyjulian idk it just seems like your hands are holding a whole other conversation with each other lmao. but fair haha
ORRRR upgrade your PC to run q3 THEN upgrade to q3 and run off pc. Much better than standalone
PCVR does open up so many experiences. Quest stand-alone is impressive, but linked to a PC - will be hard for mobile to EVER beat that.
We want a Quest 3+ not a Quest 3S...
AMEN! YES, please!
Isn't the quest 3 S just a downgrade of the quest 3 in several ways?
Yes, it is. For sure. A downgrade from quest 3, and a boost up from the quest 2.
You sound very much like Doctor Disaster 👍
LOL! Love that!
me watching this knowing i probably wont be buying the quest 3 anyways:
LOL - totally get it. Not necessarily for everyone, but curious as to why you are thinking you won't get one? Thanks for the comment!
@@jollyjulian its just too expensive as of now and i don't really see a reason, the quest 2 seems like a better option for me and I am planning on buying it, the quest 3 costs around 5k in my country, and the quest 2 costs 1.8k-2k
Tony starks cousin
LOL - well, I'll take that! "I AM IRON MAN('s cousin)!
Whether tis nobler in the mind or in the pancake lenses
Nice Shakespeare paraphrase - love that!
I just fucking bought it
Awesome - I think you're going to LOVE it! Can't wait to hear what you think when it comes in. Welcome to great VR!
It is not about Quest 3 vs Quest 3s, they arent in the same class.... Quest 3s vs Quest 2 is what its all about and to that Quest 3s wins. Quest 3 has proper lenses not the crappy ones the Q3s will come out with...
Quest 3s is not really an upgrade worth getting excited for. Valve been silent for years and Index is super old by now so if they said something about their future headset thats worth getting excited for.
TLDR, buy QUEST 3 during black friday or whenever it drops in price, its the greatest in the pricerange.
Agreed for sure. The Quest 3s is really more of a Quest 2 super. better processor, probably color passthrough. I want something new from Valve so badly!
i am waiting for Quest 4 to make Quest 3 cheaper to make Quest 2 cheaper to buy google cardboard
LOL! Nicely played!
Honestly the quest 3 is that much of an upgrade from the quest2. Seriously they are selling the 2 for 200 and the 3 for 500. The the difference is minimal mainly because a lot of the new features of the quest 3 are still in development and very few games take advantage of the power difference in a meaningful way. If your a quest 2 owner looking for a big jump look for a used gaming laptop or pc that has a graphics card better than 2050 ti and start doing pc vr
PcVr is an expensive waste of money unless you have like a 4090 and high end vr headset.
I do get where you're coming from, but I do disagree, humbly. I found the upgrade from the Quest 2 to the Quest 3 to be a big jump, but I DO agree that PCVR is the best you can get. However, it is another level of commitment..... At the same time, not everyone has to have the TOP OF THE LINE PC to do some PCVR, just depends on the experience and such. More to come in other videos on that one. Thanks for the comment!
@@CalebEdwards-ut7ju you don’t need a top of the line pc. People act like it’s 2013 and vr is this expensive new thing. A 1050ti with a decent cpu paring can do vr better than a quest 3.
@@appropriate-channelname3049 really? damn bro I thought it was way more expensive. pcvr will always be better than standalone Q3
@@CalebEdwards-ut7ju Like honestly it’s worth the jump. The games are much cheaper. You’ve got a bigger selection with way more advanced vr games on offer. The quest as a pc headset is very good since it only needs the 1 cable coming from the quest to the pc or you can use it wirelessly if you have very good internet. Also you don’t need to have a room where base stations are setup etc.
... i cant BELIEVE that VR isnt one of the best innovative techs that could exist.... truely... things have gone bad. I think that " predicted profitability " has destroyed innovative incentives. If people would realize that "cult classics" are an exponentially more profitable endeavor then the situation would be so different.... people who chase profit WILL LOSE. People who chase their passion will win!
There is a lot to be said on this comment - a great one! I agree that, for the most part, passion and innovation is VITAL for great tech and entertainment advancement. At the same time, it's hard to ignore the insane (yes insane) amount of money that Zuckerberg has put into VR, which (arguably) has lead to millions of people getting into VR who may not have at all at this point. However, the reason he's put so much money into it is - he's passionate about it! No denying that. He is one of the greatest passionate devotees of VR in the world. But there is a lot of innovation to continue happening. We are moving forward, quite well, just not as fast as any of us would have liked or predicted. More to come on this subject - you opened up a great discussion here!
And don't buy the next VR headset, the next next VR headset will be coming.
The age-old dilemma. If you never buy the latest headset, you'll never buy the latest headset. :)
In 2024 I’d figure the VR experience would be so next level but it’s still not there yet in my opinion damn sure not in price for some of these options 🫤
I can understand where you're coming from, and in STANDALONE VR, I could agree a bit on that. But PCVR, to me is pretty amazing, and showing what VR really can be. However, we're still very much at the beginning of the VR life, so the next 5 - 10 year should show some real additional growth in tech!
Vr is still miles away behind pc graphics..in 10 years maybe it will worth it, at the moment technology in vr is not worth the money
I do understand where you're coming from, and that is one of the things I hear most - that the graphics aren't as good or as sharp. And that's true, to a degree, as it takes so much more to render the game twice (once for each eye), and getting those images perfectly lined up for the eyes, but it gets better and better every day. Now, I think the quality is really at a place where the immersion of the 3d and full scale just makes it that much better for me than even a flat-game could be with better graphics. But totally get where you're coming from!
@@jollyjulian just returned a few days ago a quest 3 , it was like watching something through binoculars, fov is still not right also. In some years this tech will be top..too bad we still have to wait..