@@ramhthewatermelon i think what he was trying to say is that papa Varga was a good man and should be the protagonist. Because it is being assumed that protagonists are always the good guys. However, the show is called Better Call Saul, it is about Saul Goodman, therefore, he is the protagonist, and because the character is known to be the crooked lawyer, obviously, he's not that innocent, but that's the point of the show. Its a prequel to breaking bad, because it so happens that Saul Goodman was one of the favorites amongst fans such as myself. I could be wrong, but if im reading the comment correctly, that is what i ascertain.
I disagree. People never seem to bring this up, but he could have saved Nacho's life but he couldn't be bothered to. Nacho wanted to run. He begged his Father to get out of town. He even offered to buy his business for more than it was worth. He wouldn't help him. Hate that Nacho died protecting a man who wouldn't do the same for him 💯
@@liljackypaper yea. I see what you mean. Again, i was trying to understand the comment too and quite frankly i didnt understand, I'll be honest. But now that you explained it to me, ok ye i understand what you are trying to say. Yes, it was sad how his father didn't want to help him, possibly because he wanted his son out of the business, and probably thought that going to the police would ultimately protect him. The reason why i say that is because that is what my aunt try to do to her son, unfortunately, it did not work out for either of them What terrible times. Because i see this in my family, they assume that the police can protect everyone. Absolutely not true. Hell no.
Mike was seen as the smart and wise guy. His judgement was unmatched and it almost seemed his ideals were on the border of goodness. But in truth, we have confused Manuel and Mike's characters with one another. Mike really did believe that it was justice. He is so tangled up in the criminal world, thinking he knows better than the others what is morally right, but in fact, put next to a symbol of pureness, wisdom and moral that is Papa Varga, Mike is just another criminal. Just a little better than the others.
@@alonnie1919exactly; and I think that the writers purposefully went for an on-the-nose encounter between Mike and Manuel. A lot of the fans felt that mike's actions throughout the series were justified, or at the very least, the most moral. That is where Manuel brings him and the rest of the fans back to reality; Mike is still ultimately a criminal and not as different from the salamancas as he would like to think he is.
@@V-for-Vendetta01 Morally Mike is closer to the Salamancas than he is to Papa Varga, but because the show is just about bad guys, Mike seems like a good person int it.
It hurts so much seeing Nacho cry, not only because he is saying goodbye to his father, but because the last thought his father had of him is that of disappointment.
And an even cooler thing (took this from another comment), papa varga has this look of anguish at 15:25 . He knows that something is up, for real this time. But like he says, "what else is there to say?"
There are few characters who can actually say they stand as a symbol of purity, and even justice, in this world but Nacho’s papa stands out as one of those people who never compromised his principles and always urged Nacho to do what he believed was the right thing even though his love for his son remained unwavering. I hope he found some peace in the long term. ❤️
@@nont18411 Absolutely not true after watching season 2. Just watch the ending of Season 4's Coushatta. Would a moral compass character kiss the guy who just used that trick to get a case dismissed? I don't think so.
Well it was the tragedy of Nacho's character. He didn't come from a broken home at all, he grew up with hard working parents who loved him and who he seemed to love as well. He pursued crime out of greed and died by committing a half nature. Had he just gunned down Hector in a dark alley with a throw away he could've probably gotten away with it.
He said the last bit in Spanish, which knows Mike doesn't understand. Despite his anger, he was also grateful to Mike for telling him about what happened to Nacho. So he spared him the harsh words.
I love Nacho’s Dad. He was the one of the only characters that never gave in, never committed any crime, no matter what kind of pressure or intimidation. He was one of the only true good people.
excuse me but I don't agree. doing bad things under the threat of being killed or something else real bad happening doesn't make you a bad person. it's common sense to try to save your life or your loved ones's lives like in s4 02 of bcs varga's father behavior was stupid he should've cared about what could happen to him and to his relatives
@@matthewriley7826 No, Jimmy's dad seemed very weak from the sound of things. In contrast, while Papa Varga was kind, he also put his foot down and didn't put up with bs. Jimmy's dad on the other hand was gullible and got easily swindled.
Great actor, you can really tell he acted like a real father for Nacho's character. He put all the little gestures and nuances in these scenes and created a trully believable character. Greetings from Spain!
Mike deserved it. He deludes himself that he's a "good" criminal, but remember what he said himself? Don't take half measures. Yet he took a half measure in being a decent person, by working for the drug cartel.
Everytime Nacho shows up he seems so scared, so afraid. He wants to protect his family, but it's Nacho who needs someone to protect him. Papa Vargas doesn't have that fear, a true father, brave and always trying to teach his son to stand by what he believes. Ignacio unfortunately didn't inherit that bravery.
I just can't figure out how Nacho ended up the way he did. It's obvious that his father set a strong example and worked very hard to protect his son from the evils of the world. So why didn't it take? What compelled Nacho to rebel against such goodness and head down such a dark path?
It's actually a really typical story for young kids in impoverished households. They make friends. They want to "make it rich" and live the good life. They fall in with bad people. Illegal acts start small and escalates until there's no going back.
Usually Cartels are run by subsidiary cartels, who outsource to street gangs. In a lot of cases if you grow up in a neighborhood run by street gangs often they'll make you do a criminal act and hold it over your head to then make you do something worse and once that happens they own you. You can see this in play with how it's clear Nacho grew up with Crazy 8, but Nacho who is smarter, tried to hide that from the Salamanca's. They even made him beat Crazy 8 to be an inforcer.
It's certainly open to interpretation, but knowing Nacho, he likely went down that path to try to give his family some financial freedom. His father, of course, wanted none of that, but that might have been Nacho's initial motivation.
@@arizonashane it's pretty much the way it goes in real life. Crime offers a better livelihood in some areas and young people end up getting dragged in it.
Papa Varga is one of the only characters that's like always good, no matter what, so much integrity and honesty. You could tell that Nacho always hated how much his work was not right with his father, and how much he wished to make his father proud and happy.
I think Mike really felt for the old Man's loss, he saw him as another "honest guy." Which is exactly what the character of Nacho's father is. He's an "honest broker" in a pit full of Vipers.
I love how he would not take Hector's money. He knew that the slightest amount of corruption could be life-changing. He wasn't just the most decent person on the show; he was the wisest.
At the end he sticked it right into Mike. I loved that scene. People always woo Mike saying he's respectable or something but he's the most morally fcked up person on the show.
I really do like how the writers really hammer in how messed up everyone is, especially at the finales. It's like them snapping their fingers at some of the viewers and saying "hey, wake up, you would hate these people IRL." Of course, that still doesn't stop some viewers from liking Walt, Mike, Saul, Kim, Jesse, Gus, etc. etc.
People often point out Walt could have taken the job offer at Grey Matter or the numerous other ways he could have paid for his cancer treatment and left a legacy behind for his family as being why he is wrong throughout the whole show but then turn the other cheek to Mike a guy who is hypercompetent at any job he's given turning to crime instead of doing a legal job (I mean hell his detective work for Jimmy on his clients would have been better)
this world doesn't deserve people like papa nacho and thats why there should be more people like him,always strive to be kind, reality doesn't need to be bleak.
Papa Varga, Donald, Walt Jr and Andrea were the only characters in the BB / BCS universe who were genuinely righteous and weren’t morally reprehensible, they didn’t deserve what happened to them
19:30 That shot is so awesome! Mike isn't free anymore, he's too deep in the game and Nacho's father ist truelly free. Free of wanted revenge or being a criminal because of greed.
Mas respecto por papa Varga!!! Nacho deserves better! Such a strong man after everything that happened....1 of the best characters out of the Breaking Bad universe.
It almost feels like watching the Father of a drug addict. He wants to help, he wants it to stop and his son to be better, but he's tried everything and doesn't know what to do anymore. And maybe he knew that Nacho was dead long before Nacho himself knew.
It's also implied that Nacho left the criminal world at some point before going back into it, or at the very least lied to his father about leaving the first time. That's why Manuel is so broken by it
This show inspired me to learn Spanish like you wouldn't believe. Its a journey, especially being limited to just google translate, but one day I want to comprehend these conversations without the use of subtitles.
@@irvinmorales1409 That's because Jesse has a low self-esteem. His parents emotionally abused him to be this perfect son and the pressure got to him to the point he decided to rebel. And they're doing the same thing to their younger son.
It's so adorable how he would rather keep the integrity and pride of the chrysler rather than accepting a big cashout job of an expensive gator leather It sort of tells us that he's actually passionate in the art of upholstery and sees the beauty in it rather than a soulless salesman looking for a buck
@@johntaylor7029 You reminded me of a guy working at a (lowish-priced) suit store who knew just by looking at me that I'd want the shirt he handed me. He was right. It fit perfectly. Dude was in his seventies.
Papa Varga, Andrea and Brock Cantillo, Kaylee Erhmantraut, Walt Jr., Huell, Lyle and Howard Hamlin are the only selfless and wholesome innocent morally good characters in Breaking Bad It’s a real shame two of them died 😢
First, kids and teens don’t count because they are not morally defined yet. Second, Andrea Cantillo, Steve Gomez and Howard Hamlim were good natured people but there lives never touched the game (Howard was a lawyer and Steve a law agent) so we cannot really know how they will react in a high risky moral situation. Papa Varga is an example of an incorruptible hard working honest man who always rejected criminal influence. He wasn’t naive or something else. He only has principles. The only true real good person of the entirely series
Mike understands nacho's dad He lost his son too Only thing is, he knows what he couldve done, but he's shackled Papa Varga didnt know how deep his son was in the business, so he tries to warn his son The Criminal Father now experienced again what it feels to lose a child, only that he saw it in someone elses eyes, the eyes of a hardworking honest and innocent man
There is a mechanics shop near me that is like this, you know valued for their honesty. They are always backed up with so much business because everyone in the area trusts them.
My father is cubano, and he was like Nacho's dad. But he himself was a gangster at one point too back in the 70's and 80's. Him and my uncle worked for the Colombians and Griselda Blanco. My uncle was more of the gangster, he took it seriously and was a psychopath. My dad was just a player, he loved women, and partying, and he just wanted to have a good time and make a living in America. My dad got out of the life when it got too serious, and my uncle had to do 8 years in prison. When my uncle got out, he started developing a close relationship with me and his sons (my cousins). My uncle was a very corrupt man, and he convinced all of us to sell dope for him at the age of 12, 15, and 19 (I was 12). My father HATED that I worked for my uncle and he and my mom moved us out of the barrio after my mom graduated from College. But like an idiot, I wanted to be Mr. Tough guy gangster. I saw my uncle as what a man should be like. My father hated that I worked for my uncle still, but he was such a sweet and loving man, that he could not disown me. He loved me no matter what. After 16 years of working for my uncle, finally the DEA and FBI raided all of us. We were all arrested. My uncle was hit with multiple federal RICO predicates, and we were all arrested for distribution, doctor shopping (this was during the pill epidemic in Florida in the early 2000's), and racketeering. This broke my father. My dad went to my uncle and BEGGED him to take all the charges and accept his life sentence, and he did. My uncle ordered me, and my cousins, to testify against him. To basically rat him out so we all could get less time and have a chance at life. Standing on that podium, and pointing my finger to a man I saw as my second father was the hardest day of my life. After all said and done, I got 5 years, my cousins got 5 and 8. My uncle got life in prison and he is currently in Coleman USP in Florida. My cousins and I are free. Now my father and I currently own a pet care business up in Massachusetts. Walking dogs, boarding pets, grooming pets, pet home visits etc etc. My parents, cousins, and aunts all live on the same street in Boston. We are doing very well and are becoming successful doing something that we all love. My dad is the happiest he has ever been at 71 years old. Thankfully, my dad and I got a happier ending than poor Nacho. I am sorry for sharing such a long post, but Nacho and his fathers story reminds me so much of mine that it made me tear up. Hearing Nacho's father hearing about his son dying was my absolute worst nightmare for my dad.
We first meet Nacho's dad as he uses Nacho to translate in order to ensure that the customer (Mike) gets fair treatment, even pressing Nacho to curve the spending down. Why? Because the Dad is a bad businessman? No, its because that is what is FAIR to the customer, who is seeking expert advice. The fake language barrier is not to exploit the customer with secret side talk. Fairness is the father's code. Fairness is the foundation of justice. It is the symbolized as the balanced scales that are upheld by the (blind) Lady Justice in all the statues, as she also holds a sword to symbolize the consequences of our actions. Justice is why the Dad encourages Nacho to go to the police. At the end of this video, Mike mentions 'Justice' and the Dad says "Justice???" Mike thinks it is lost in translation, but the Dad is incredulous and flabbergasted that this despicable Narco gangster, who is involved in the death of his only son, would use a word that the Dad lived every moment of his life abiding by, living by the code of justice and fairness.
The fact that Nacho was hiding in another mechanic shop must have got him thinking about how he use to do that type of work with his dad in their shop.
Papa Varga's story is one of the saddest in BCS. He was the only character in the show that had a solid moral compass. He didn't do enough for his son, but he did the best he could, and nobody else on the show can say otherwise.
The framing in the final scene is just so powerful. Obviously the shots of Mike in the cell and hidden in the shadows is good but the entire scene is framed to view Papa in the dark and to be in the cell. But he was always free and always saw Mike exactly how we see him at the very end
Poor papa Varga! He was a good man who worked hard to become a business owner, not only that but he only wanted the best for his son. Nacho wanted to get money fast by loosing his morals and soul in the process, if he just followed his father he still could've been successful! But the new generation want's instant gratification, and that instant gratification cost him everything
Papa Varga is the only characher in the entire bb and bcs series that represents the true aspects of a fair living man. The only one who know the real meaning of justice
A very powerful interaction between Mike and Nacho's dad. Not only does Mike relate to the dad, being a criminal father who lost his honest son and an honest father who lost his criminal son, but he also gets exposed to his denial. The idea that a wrong cannot be corrected with another wrong rings in your ear and complimented by the powerful imagery that shows even if Nacho's dad is behind the fence, it is Mike that is truly caged. Caged in a world full or wrongs, sin, and strife.
Papa Varga was such a sweet man. I'd like to think that after the events of Breaking Bad he just kind of quietly shook his head at all the madness that had consumed New Mexico and went off to live a life of happy retirement in the old country.
I feel like Nacho fathers only mistake was being too patient with Nacho hoping he'd change for the better. I think this is exemplified in the "Fall" scene 1:43. Despite all the downright utter disrespect and demand(obviously out of fear and good reasoning) Nacho had for his dad coming into his house he neither raised his voice or put a finger on him. Simply told his son to leave the house
Better Call Saul had many moments where you could find a massage in people, relationships or just behaviour but i think one that a lot of people miss is that the world is just unfair perfectly portraited by the loss of Papa Varga. I mean Nacho played with fire, he had it comming even tho he is the only "bad" guy in the show wich i think deserved to be free from the cartell but at the end he had it comming. But Papa Varga... no, he stayed to his prinicipals an honest man, so honest that he even turned down an easy cashgrab like mike with the croc leather yet he lost the most valuable person in his life no matter how upstanding he was. I mean sure you can put another meaning in to this tragedy by saying that doing bad things has not only consequences for you but people around you aswell, but that is ture for anybody in the show specially Jimmy.
Whats hurts me even worse is that papa varga reminds me exactly of my dad and uncles; immigrant men with very kind hearts who work hard and honestly, and treat everyone with a smile and pray for everyone they meet
He knew English he like many paisanos just didn't feel comfortable speaking it 100% of the time. This is like in many white washed movies where you have people from foreign places speaking English just so the viewer can understand. Unless you've learned another language and understood how it's like to have to actively use it then you can't understand.
When the dad leaves Mike with that final line, that's where you see Mikes mask break. He doesn't even offer more condolences or such, like he would do with Jessie or such. He can't find any words, he doesn't make a sound, his face goes so broken. And then he slowly walks away, as you hear crickets in the air. He in that moment finds himself sorely regretting momentarily, regretting ever joining the cartel business and agreeing to be their dirty work man. He fooled himself into thinking he was better, that he could still be a goodman, that he was only taking out criminals and bad people, but the dads words make him doubt all that. Because he sees himself standing there, learning his son is dead. And this time, he was on the side of the criminals who did it and got away with it. Perhaps he wishes to speak, to call out to the dad, to apologise, to repent, to maybe even walk away from crime altogether. But it's too late, there's nothing left to be said. He can't back out, and that's how he finds himself walking to the car, going back to business. That's all he has left, and from then on until he dies, he resigns himself because now everytime he does the dirty work, he hears Nacho's dads words, sees him staring through the fence in disgust.
@@m.s7719 Hank didn't do anything wrong. He laughed at a random murderer's corpse but that doesn't make him a bad person, it's a cop's everyday job. Skylar was a victim of Walt's business and Gomez, I can't really find anything negative about him.
Nacho in S2: Thinks Mike is trying to threaten him and his Dad
Nacho in S6: Mike is the only person he trusts to look after his Dad after he dies
Mike: a criminal father who lost an honest son.
Manuel: an honest father who lost a criminal son.
they should have swapped sons lol.
@@spencerreid2086good for Manuel, horrible for Mike.
@@drysoup3017how losing any son is good for anyone
@@ZimonAman Again, reading comprehension of an average internet user is downright pathetic to look at. Read the comment he replied to again.
@@saudude2174losing a son is losing a son, criminal or not
You can tell how much nacho loved his father.
Full on died for his father
@@lukekiely2450 more like he died because of his father
@@sarimsakliyogurtlumantikli1212 he didn’t run so nacho had to sacrifice himself
@@Madge104 he wasn’t In the game so why should he run??
@@lukekiely2450 his son is, if you care about your son and or his life you run simple as that
Papa Varga is the true protagonist of this universe.
What? It's probably a joke but it doesn't make any sense
@@ramhthewatermelon i think what he was trying to say is that papa Varga was a good man and should be the protagonist. Because it is being assumed that protagonists are always the good guys. However, the show is called Better Call Saul, it is about Saul Goodman, therefore, he is the protagonist, and because the character is known to be the crooked lawyer, obviously, he's not that innocent, but that's the point of the show. Its a prequel to breaking bad, because it so happens that Saul Goodman was one of the favorites amongst fans such as myself. I could be wrong, but if im reading the comment correctly, that is what i ascertain.
I disagree.
People never seem to bring this up, but he could have saved Nacho's life but he couldn't be bothered to.
Nacho wanted to run. He begged his Father to get out of town. He even offered to buy his business for more than it was worth. He wouldn't help him.
Hate that Nacho died protecting a man who wouldn't do the same for him 💯
@@liljackypaper yea. I see what you mean. Again, i was trying to understand the comment too and quite frankly i didnt understand, I'll be honest. But now that you explained it to me, ok ye i understand what you are trying to say. Yes, it was sad how his father didn't want to help him, possibly because he wanted his son out of the business, and probably thought that going to the police would ultimately protect him. The reason why i say that is because that is what my aunt try to do to her son, unfortunately, it did not work out for either of them
What terrible times. Because i see this in my family, they assume that the police can protect everyone. Absolutely not true. Hell no.
RIP dad :(
"Do not try to upsell him."
This line in and of itself shows Papa Varga's integrity.
Nice to see an honest tradesman.
The scene where Nacho had his last call with his dad was so heart wrenching 😭
You can see how Nacho wanted to say "Love you, papa" but didn't want to say it as he knew it would probably worry his dad as a sign of a last goodbye
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
What makes it sadder that scene was filmed shortly after micheal mandos farther died
His English even improves as the show goes on. Because Nacho wasn’t there to translate for him anymore, damn…
Man, good point. Bravo Vince!
Vravo Bince
Bince Villigan
The way he calls mike out on his denial will always be one of my favorite scenes from the show. Great character.
Basically summed up the entire BB & BCS universe
Added a lot of nuance to the revenge motivations of all the main characters. We root for them in the show but we would really hate them irl.
Mike was seen as the smart and wise guy. His judgement was unmatched and it almost seemed his ideals were on the border of goodness. But in truth, we have confused Manuel and Mike's characters with one another. Mike really did believe that it was justice. He is so tangled up in the criminal world, thinking he knows better than the others what is morally right, but in fact, put next to a symbol of pureness, wisdom and moral that is Papa Varga, Mike is just another criminal. Just a little better than the others.
@@alonnie1919exactly; and I think that the writers purposefully went for an on-the-nose encounter between Mike and Manuel. A lot of the fans felt that mike's actions throughout the series were justified, or at the very least, the most moral. That is where Manuel brings him and the rest of the fans back to reality; Mike is still ultimately a criminal and not as different from the salamancas as he would like to think he is.
@@V-for-Vendetta01 Morally Mike is closer to the Salamancas than he is to Papa Varga, but because the show is just about bad guys, Mike seems like a good person int it.
It hurts so much seeing Nacho cry, not only because he is saying goodbye to his father, but because the last thought his father had of him is that of disappointment.
And an even cooler thing (took this from another comment), papa varga has this look of anguish at 15:25 . He knows that something is up, for real this time. But like he says, "what else is there to say?"
dang.
There are few characters who can actually say they stand as a symbol of purity, and even justice, in this world but Nacho’s papa stands out as one of those people who never compromised his principles and always urged Nacho to do what he believed was the right thing even though his love for his son remained unwavering.
I hope he found some peace in the long term. ❤️
He didn’t. His son ended up dying a tragic death and he never got justice for it
@@floormop6672 he sorta did when the guy most responsible for his death got blown up with his nemesis
The another symbol of purity and justice is Kim. She is the moral compass hero of the story.
@@nont18411 Absolutely not true after watching season 2. Just watch the ending of Season 4's Coushatta. Would a moral compass character kiss the guy who just used that trick to get a case dismissed? I don't think so.
Well it was the tragedy of Nacho's character. He didn't come from a broken home at all, he grew up with hard working parents who loved him and who he seemed to love as well. He pursued crime out of greed and died by committing a half nature. Had he just gunned down Hector in a dark alley with a throw away he could've probably gotten away with it.
"My boy is gone... You gangsters and your justice" :(
He said the last bit in Spanish, which knows Mike doesn't understand. Despite his anger, he was also grateful to Mike for telling him about what happened to Nacho. So he spared him the harsh words.
Mike understands it well enough to know the meaning.
@@wowalamoiz9489mike works for the Cartel, im pretty sure he understood
@@SorchaSublime In this scene it's shown that Mike has difficulty expressing themself in Spanish
The anguish in papa Vargas face at 15:25. You can tell he realizes nacho must be in a bad predicament. Its heart wrenching
I love Nacho’s Dad. He was the one of the only characters that never gave in, never committed any crime, no matter what kind of pressure or intimidation. He was one of the only true good people.
And howard
yes, But, that killed Nacho, He literally died for his father
@@gretasoros6249 agreed, I love Howard
excuse me but I don't agree. doing bad things under the threat of being killed or something else real bad happening doesn't make you a bad person. it's common sense to try to save your life or your loved ones's lives like in s4 02 of bcs varga's father behavior was stupid he should've cared about what could happen to him and to his relatives
@@sarafaspalayi6483 if he wanted to live he should have worked for his dad as an apprentice or something. Not some salamanca thug,
“Don’t try to upsell him”
Always stuck with me:)
I didn't catch that, either watching the series or here. Thanks for highlighting it. What a perfect early signal of his character.
Kind of like Jimmy’s dad. Didn’t want to exploit people for extra cash, just wanted to run a business.
@@matthewriley7826 You're right, they are a lot alike.
@@matthewriley7826 No, Jimmy's dad seemed very weak from the sound of things. In contrast, while Papa Varga was kind, he also put his foot down and didn't put up with bs. Jimmy's dad on the other hand was gullible and got easily swindled.
6:36 His heart was too pure to let his son walk away without hearing him say "Mijo". 🥺
Ouch :'(
Anyone who stands up to Hector Salamanca has my respect
Gus included?
Hombre recto y valiente. Realmente fue un gran hombre.
Era un Zapatista el Don Mario
He’s a weild chear
@@cockbenny734 Gus was a fellow drug lord rather than a humble shop owner.
“I always thought I was keeping the shop for you”
Nacho's dad and Jane's dad are the most tragic character, both are great father and losing a child who lived in crime world.
Great actor, you can really tell he acted like a real father for Nacho's character. He put all the little gestures and nuances in these scenes and created a trully believable character. Greetings from Spain!
11:11 Papa Varga refuses to even touch the mug with the coffee. He knows how Nacho got the money to buy it and he simply won't drink from it.
I'm glad he survived.
Thanks to Mike (again). He saved so many people lives, but ended in an acid barrel. So sad.
Did he really survive though? I can't even imagine how he must be feeling for the rest of his life after that.
Mike deserved it. He deludes himself that he's a "good" criminal, but remember what he said himself? Don't take half measures. Yet he took a half measure in being a decent person, by working for the drug cartel.
After being called out by Manuel like that, you still think Mike is a good guy?
Wait, did Mike end up an acid barrel? I thought Walt just buried him next to the river or maybe threw him in the river.
mike ended up in the acid barrel? I thought he wss left by the river
Papa varga was the nicest guy i knew in the entire breaking bad universe
second only to hugo…
@@inabilitytopinhumility8983 And Ernie
Howard
Second to Lalo
Second to Walter
I wish I had a father like Papa Varga. I would never make him sad.
I wish I had a father
@@plexyglass429chale
I had a father like that, I still made him sad!!! I’d give anything to see him again
I honestly cry every time I think about this lovely sweet man losing his son.
Everytime Nacho shows up he seems so scared, so afraid. He wants to protect his family, but it's Nacho who needs someone to protect him. Papa Vargas doesn't have that fear, a true father, brave and always trying to teach his son to stand by what he believes. Ignacio unfortunately didn't inherit that bravery.
Ignacio spent a life on the run, and only followed his father's advice at the very end.
He definitely gained that bravery when he want above and beyond to protect his father from the Salamancas
I just can't figure out how Nacho ended up the way he did. It's obvious that his father set a strong example and worked very hard to protect his son from the evils of the world. So why didn't it take? What compelled Nacho to rebel against such goodness and head down such a dark path?
It's actually a really typical story for young kids in impoverished households. They make friends. They want to "make it rich" and live the good life. They fall in with bad people. Illegal acts start small and escalates until there's no going back.
Usually Cartels are run by subsidiary cartels, who outsource to street gangs. In a lot of cases if you grow up in a neighborhood run by street gangs often they'll make you do a criminal act and hold it over your head to then make you do something worse and once that happens they own you. You can see this in play with how it's clear Nacho grew up with Crazy 8, but Nacho who is smarter, tried to hide that from the Salamanca's. They even made him beat Crazy 8 to be an inforcer.
It's certainly open to interpretation, but knowing Nacho, he likely went down that path to try to give his family some financial freedom. His father, of course, wanted none of that, but that might have been Nacho's initial motivation.
@@arizonashane it's pretty much the way it goes in real life. Crime offers a better livelihood in some areas and young people end up getting dragged in it.
I have family in San Diego (i'm mexican) My aunt is a good woman, working woman... Believe me, it happens!
Papa Varga is one of the only characters that's like always good, no matter what, so much integrity and honesty. You could tell that Nacho always hated how much his work was not right with his father, and how much he wished to make his father proud and happy.
Jane's father was also 100% good. He did everything to get away his daughter from drugs and still failed.
Seriously he was the the chilliest guy in the Breaking Bad universe with Badger and Skinny Pete, I was so sad when Nacho died
The scene in nachos house has some of juan carlos Cantu's best acting. They really knocked the ball out of the park with his casting
Loved the scenes with him and nacho,flawless perfomances😁
I think Mike really felt for the old Man's loss, he saw him as another "honest guy." Which is exactly what the character of Nacho's father is. He's an "honest broker" in a pit full of Vipers.
Papa Manuel varga reminds of Mike's son
I love how he would not take Hector's money. He knew that the slightest amount of corruption could be life-changing. He wasn't just the most decent person on the show; he was the wisest.
At the end he sticked it right into Mike. I loved that scene. People always woo Mike saying he's respectable or something but he's the most morally fcked up person on the show.
I really do like how the writers really hammer in how messed up everyone is, especially at the finales. It's like them snapping their fingers at some of the viewers and saying "hey, wake up, you would hate these people IRL." Of course, that still doesn't stop some viewers from liking Walt, Mike, Saul, Kim, Jesse, Gus, etc. etc.
Yes, exactly, morally far worse than Gus or Hector !
People often point out Walt could have taken the job offer at Grey Matter or the numerous other ways he could have paid for his cancer treatment and left a legacy behind for his family as being why he is wrong throughout the whole show but then turn the other cheek to Mike a guy who is hypercompetent at any job he's given turning to crime instead of doing a legal job (I mean hell his detective work for Jimmy on his clients would have been better)
this world doesn't deserve people like papa nacho
and thats why there should be more people like him,always strive to be kind,
reality doesn't need to be bleak.
this man is a phenomal actor, absolutely believable in every scene he's in
Papa Varga, Donald, Walt Jr and Andrea were the only characters in the BB / BCS universe who were genuinely righteous and weren’t morally reprehensible, they didn’t deserve what happened to them
Howard Hamlin*
Don’t forget Lyle
Irene Landry and Marion as well
Don't forget Hugo
Huell
19:30 That shot is so awesome! Mike isn't free anymore, he's too deep in the game and Nacho's father ist truelly free. Free of wanted revenge or being a criminal because of greed.
Reminds me of the Zuko/Iroh scene that shows that while Iroh is in prison, he’s the only one of the two of them who is truly free.
Mike is reliving the pain of loss of his own son.
Hard as f
Mas respecto por papa Varga!!! Nacho deserves better! Such a strong man after everything that happened....1 of the best characters out of the Breaking Bad universe.
It almost feels like watching the Father of a drug addict. He wants to help, he wants it to stop and his son to be better, but he's tried everything and doesn't know what to do anymore. And maybe he knew that Nacho was dead long before Nacho himself knew.
It's worse. Atleast with a drug addiction you know they were also a victim. Nacho was the victimizer.
It's also implied that Nacho left the criminal world at some point before going back into it, or at the very least lied to his father about leaving the first time. That's why Manuel is so broken by it
@@megabladechronicles962where/when/how is that implied?
"Nacho's Dad Being Wholesome for 20 Minutes." and it's the most heartbreaking video you've ever seen.
This show inspired me to learn Spanish like you wouldn't believe. Its a journey, especially being limited to just google translate, but one day I want to comprehend these conversations without the use of subtitles.
I've been using an app called Camino for the past few months. It really does wonders.
You got this, creo en ti 😌
Morality-wise, Papa Varga is like the Walt Jr. of BCS. Completely different demographic, but very similar.
The most moral character in the show.
0:23 - Never noticed this scene where Nacho asks Mike to get out indirectly...
Jesse Pinkman's parents? If you're watching this: this is how you parent.
Yet Nacho is dead and Jesse is not. Hell, Jesse flat out admitted that everything that happened was on him and not his parents.
@@irvinmorales1409 That's because Jesse has a low self-esteem. His parents emotionally abused him to be this perfect son and the pressure got to him to the point he decided to rebel. And they're doing the same thing to their younger son.
Plot armour 😅. A chump like Jesse caanot survive this madness
Jesse brought everything on himself. No one forced him to do drugs and get with criminal gangs.
It's so adorable how he would rather keep the integrity and pride of the chrysler rather than accepting a big cashout job of an expensive gator leather
It sort of tells us that he's actually passionate in the art of upholstery and sees the beauty in it rather than a soulless salesman looking for a buck
It's also not worth the extra pain of aquiring the materials and installing
It reminded me of the tailors that lowkey tell the client what they really want, the classic "You don't know what you want, I know what you want."
@@johntaylor7029 You reminded me of a guy working at a (lowish-priced) suit store who knew just by looking at me that I'd want the shirt he handed me. He was right. It fit perfectly. Dude was in his seventies.
Papa Varga, Andrea and Brock Cantillo, Kaylee Erhmantraut, Walt Jr., Huell, Lyle and Howard Hamlin are the only selfless and wholesome innocent morally good characters in Breaking Bad
It’s a real shame two of them died 😢
Irene Landry and Marion too. At least Marion avenged Irene like a badass.
Steve Gomez was also a good person
First, kids and teens don’t count because they are not morally defined yet. Second, Andrea Cantillo, Steve Gomez and Howard Hamlim were good natured people but there lives never touched the game (Howard was a lawyer and Steve a law agent) so we cannot really know how they will react in a high risky moral situation. Papa Varga is an example of an incorruptible hard working honest man who always rejected criminal influence. He wasn’t naive or something else. He only has principles. The only true real good person of the entirely series
Mike understands nacho's dad
He lost his son too
Only thing is, he knows what he couldve done, but he's shackled
Papa Varga didnt know how deep his son was in the business, so he tries to warn his son
The Criminal Father now experienced again what it feels to lose a child, only that he saw it in someone elses eyes, the eyes of a hardworking honest and innocent man
The fact that he tells nacho in Spanish to not upsale him is actually so nice cuz it’s usually the other way around 😂
One of the only innocent people in the brba universe
*Wholesome moments of Papa Varga*
So basically, all the scenes in which Papa Varga featured!
There is a mechanics shop near me that is like this, you know valued for their honesty. They are always backed up with so much business because everyone in the area trusts them.
My father is cubano, and he was like Nacho's dad. But he himself was a gangster at one point too back in the 70's and 80's. Him and my uncle worked for the Colombians and Griselda Blanco. My uncle was more of the gangster, he took it seriously and was a psychopath. My dad was just a player, he loved women, and partying, and he just wanted to have a good time and make a living in America.
My dad got out of the life when it got too serious, and my uncle had to do 8 years in prison. When my uncle got out, he started developing a close relationship with me and his sons (my cousins). My uncle was a very corrupt man, and he convinced all of us to sell dope for him at the age of 12, 15, and 19 (I was 12). My father HATED that I worked for my uncle and he and my mom moved us out of the barrio after my mom graduated from College.
But like an idiot, I wanted to be Mr. Tough guy gangster. I saw my uncle as what a man should be like. My father hated that I worked for my uncle still, but he was such a sweet and loving man, that he could not disown me. He loved me no matter what.
After 16 years of working for my uncle, finally the DEA and FBI raided all of us. We were all arrested. My uncle was hit with multiple federal RICO predicates, and we were all arrested for distribution, doctor shopping (this was during the pill epidemic in Florida in the early 2000's), and racketeering.
This broke my father. My dad went to my uncle and BEGGED him to take all the charges and accept his life sentence, and he did. My uncle ordered me, and my cousins, to testify against him. To basically rat him out so we all could get less time and have a chance at life.
Standing on that podium, and pointing my finger to a man I saw as my second father was the hardest day of my life.
After all said and done, I got 5 years, my cousins got 5 and 8. My uncle got life in prison and he is currently in Coleman USP in Florida. My cousins and I are free.
Now my father and I currently own a pet care business up in Massachusetts. Walking dogs, boarding pets, grooming pets, pet home visits etc etc. My parents, cousins, and aunts all live on the same street in Boston. We are doing very well and are becoming successful doing something that we all love. My dad is the happiest he has ever been at 71 years old. Thankfully, my dad and I got a happier ending than poor Nacho.
I am sorry for sharing such a long post, but Nacho and his fathers story reminds me so much of mine that it made me tear up. Hearing Nacho's father hearing about his son dying was my absolute worst nightmare for my dad.
BB/BCS has one of the best UA-cam channels. No overly long intro, they upload all the best clips, and they make cool compilations like this one.
It breaks my heart that with Nacho not being around, his English got better and better especially with his last scene with Mike.
Papa Varga is the only character in this universe who never compromised his morals
jimmy's dad
walter, he never was moral
@@sptc7616 jimmy’s dad don’t count because he was extremely naive. Papa Varga was no fool at all
0:48 here we see how simple and humble nacho's father is, the customer asks for expensive material and he recommends a cheaper one.
His English got a lot better. I guess he studied after those 11 hour workdays.
He no longer had Nacho so he was forced to learn English himself
We first meet Nacho's dad as he uses Nacho to translate in order to ensure that the customer (Mike) gets fair treatment, even pressing Nacho to curve the spending down. Why? Because the Dad is a bad businessman? No, its because that is what is FAIR to the customer, who is seeking expert advice. The fake language barrier is not to exploit the customer with secret side talk.
Fairness is the father's code.
Fairness is the foundation of justice. It is the symbolized as the balanced scales that are upheld by the (blind) Lady Justice in all the statues, as she also holds a sword to symbolize the consequences of our actions. Justice is why the Dad encourages Nacho to go to the police.
At the end of this video, Mike mentions 'Justice' and the Dad says "Justice???" Mike thinks it is lost in translation, but the Dad is incredulous and flabbergasted that this despicable Narco gangster, who is involved in the death of his only son, would use a word that the Dad lived every moment of his life abiding by, living by the code of justice and fairness.
I always really appreciate how slow things go in this show. Nothing is rushed, it feels natural. It lets the emotions settle in for each moment.
he needs more recognition
There isn’t worse feeling than the one you feel that you failed your dad. If you re a son it hurts and follows you for the rest of your life.
sometimes fathers are wrong with his wishes for his sons, live ur own life.
Nacho's dad was so wholesome that he managed to make Mike seem wholesome. Only person to ever do that to Mike was his granddaughter.
The fact that Nacho was hiding in another mechanic shop must have got him thinking about how he use to do that type of work with his dad in their shop.
My dad is exactly like this which hurts me more if I’d ever let him down
Revenge is never the answer. Too many people choose wrath over sadness
He is the only one without ulterior motives… what an evil man Gus … threatening this angel
Papa Varga's story is one of the saddest in BCS. He was the only character in the show that had a solid moral compass. He didn't do enough for his son, but he did the best he could, and nobody else on the show can say otherwise.
Michael Mando is a damn good actor.
Nacho had too much Luck to have a Father like that. Undeserved.
God I miss this show
Me too brother!
The framing in the final scene is just so powerful. Obviously the shots of Mike in the cell and hidden in the shadows is good but the entire scene is framed to view Papa in the dark and to be in the cell. But he was always free and always saw Mike exactly how we see him at the very end
Poor papa Varga! He was a good man who worked hard to become a business owner, not only that but he only wanted the best for his son. Nacho wanted to get money fast by loosing his morals and soul in the process, if he just followed his father he still could've been successful! But the new generation want's instant gratification, and that instant gratification cost him everything
That's just his entire screen time
We should all hope to be like Papa Varga. Honest, good will, and pure hearted.
Just like your pfp, one of my motivational character to go to gym
6:53 lol at the title error being "Nippy"
What an amazing compilation. Good work
The title of this video made me actually laugh out loud. Well done.
Bruh. You forgot to include scene where he was nice with Fring's subordinate
"My boy is gone" that line hit me right in the chest
Papa Varga is the only characher in the entire bb and bcs series that represents the true aspects of a fair living man. The only one who know the real meaning of justice
Welcome to better call saul
Better Call Saul is truly precious.
Ignacio’s dad is… Nacho’s
what a good man. it makes me sad how few people are like this
A very powerful interaction between Mike and Nacho's dad. Not only does Mike relate to the dad, being a criminal father who lost his honest son and an honest father who lost his criminal son, but he also gets exposed to his denial. The idea that a wrong cannot be corrected with another wrong rings in your ear and complimented by the powerful imagery that shows even if Nacho's dad is behind the fence, it is Mike that is truly caged. Caged in a world full or wrongs, sin, and strife.
Papa Varga was such a sweet man. I'd like to think that after the events of Breaking Bad he just kind of quietly shook his head at all the madness that had consumed New Mexico and went off to live a life of happy retirement in the old country.
I feel like Nacho fathers only mistake was being too patient with Nacho hoping he'd change for the better. I think this is exemplified in the "Fall" scene 1:43. Despite all the downright utter disrespect and demand(obviously out of fear and good reasoning) Nacho had for his dad coming into his house he neither raised his voice or put a finger on him. Simply told his son to leave the house
You want to tell your parents something, but you just will not do it because you think you can fix it yourself. It's a paradox
90% of Mexican dads are like Nachos dad
No.
Nah man
One of the very few decent human beings in the whole BB / BCS universe.
The whole first scene when he is trying to make sure mike doesn't waste his money
Better Call Saul had many moments where you could find a massage in people, relationships or just behaviour but i think one that a lot of people miss is that the world is just unfair perfectly portraited by the loss of Papa Varga.
I mean Nacho played with fire, he had it comming even tho he is the only "bad" guy in the show wich i think deserved to be free from the cartell but at the end he had it comming.
But Papa Varga... no, he stayed to his prinicipals an honest man, so honest that he even turned down an easy cashgrab like mike with the croc leather yet he lost the most valuable person in his life no matter how upstanding he was.
I mean sure you can put another meaning in to this tragedy by saying that doing bad things has not only consequences for you but people around you aswell, but that is ture for anybody in the show specially Jimmy.
my heart cant handle watching this in one sitting
Whats hurts me even worse is that papa varga reminds me exactly of my dad and uncles; immigrant men with very kind hearts who work hard and honestly, and treat everyone with a smile and pray for everyone they meet
He learned a lot of english from the first scene to the last one...
Legit criticism
He knew English he like many paisanos just didn't feel comfortable speaking it 100% of the time. This is like in many white washed movies where you have people from foreign places speaking English just so the viewer can understand. Unless you've learned another language and understood how it's like to have to actively use it then you can't understand.
When the dad leaves Mike with that final line, that's where you see Mikes mask break. He doesn't even offer more condolences or such, like he would do with Jessie or such. He can't find any words, he doesn't make a sound, his face goes so broken. And then he slowly walks away, as you hear crickets in the air. He in that moment finds himself sorely regretting momentarily, regretting ever joining the cartel business and agreeing to be their dirty work man. He fooled himself into thinking he was better, that he could still be a goodman, that he was only taking out criminals and bad people, but the dads words make him doubt all that. Because he sees himself standing there, learning his son is dead. And this time, he was on the side of the criminals who did it and got away with it. Perhaps he wishes to speak, to call out to the dad, to apologise, to repent, to maybe even walk away from crime altogether. But it's too late, there's nothing left to be said. He can't back out, and that's how he finds himself walking to the car, going back to business. That's all he has left, and from then on until he dies, he resigns himself because now everytime he does the dirty work, he hears Nacho's dads words, sees him staring through the fence in disgust.
"And don't try to upsell him" (mike) is why you must protect him
He's so awesome
A good man, an honest living, a genuinely good person. Was there anyone in the series that can be said about?
Hank Schrader? Skylar? Walt jr? Gomez?
@@stairwaytoheaven8 >Hank
Nope.
>Skylar Ehh, i suppose so.
>Gomez
Maybe.
@@m.s7719 Hank didn't do anything wrong. He laughed at a random murderer's corpse but that doesn't make him a bad person, it's a cop's everyday job. Skylar was a victim of Walt's business and Gomez, I can't really find anything negative about him.
@@stairwaytoheaven8 Using Jesse as bait. Barging into a person's house without a warrant.
Gus's boy lyale ...hard working assistant manager