I mean, the guy is loaded with money, and he doesn't care about his employee no wanting his father involved, and he adviced against it. "I don't trust him" no s**t Sherlock, Nacho told you it was a bad idea. Just do that to another store, with a more compliant owner that takes the money and shuts up
@TrashcanTroubadour Of course I have. To Hector even the smallest hint of anger is a sign of disrespect, I'm just calling the title of the video misleading.
@@koko4620there’s disrespect and being unhappy with someone’s decision or opinion of you, hector wouldn’t experience disrespect without explaining his position to you, whether that be taking your balls or leaving you to be very happy you still have them
He didn’t say, no thank you I am not running that kind of business. Instead he say “Please, get out of my store” Telling a capo in a cartel what to do is a sign of disrespect. Not saying it’s justified but that’s what I took from it
It's easy to have confidence when you know you're the most skilled and capable person in any room you're in and can outmaneuver your enemies even when outnumbered, Mike's confidence is because he knows he can keep himself safe but Nacho's dad knows he is powerless in the situation and still stands tall so his confidence is way more impressive.
Manuel, being on the path of righteousness gives him confidence. Mike, being on the path the game took him gives him confidence. And yes, there's a distinct difference in the two.
I forget which criminal said it, but “if someone is truly square, you can’t really mess with them like we mess with each other.” It’s like hypnosis only working on some people and not others.
As evil as Don Hector is, I love his character. He is more than competent at his trade and you can tell he earned his stripes through years of being both ruthless and smart.
if Nacho loved his father he never would have got mixed up in the cartel in the first place. as if the cartel using his family wasn’t obvious enough, Nacho died and his dad never saw him again. nEvEr UnDeReStImAtE lOvE fOr FaMily - more like never delude yourself into thinking your decisions affect only you
a convoluted death warrant that took many years to be fulfilled. but yeah, you make an excellent point. the wheelchair blowing up probably never would have happened if not for this happening.
As polite as Manuel was trying to be, he still defied a capo by telling him to leave the store. You don't tell a cartel boss what to do unless you're ready for a war
Yep. But he thinks throwing money at someone is being nice. Not to mention it's stupid for him when Nacho told him his old man wasn't in the game and that he'd think Nacho would let him hurt his father.
@cl1xor yeah that's the feeling I got every time I saw him. He knew his son was dead probably years before it happened, when Nacho started working in the game. People don't just walk away from that.
2:50 - I love how this shot lingers on Papa Varga instead of immediately cutting away. We see the anguish and sadness because he sees the corrupt world his son is mixed up with
And what would that accomplish? That’s the reason why Salamancas could never compete with Gus in terms of business. They were too reckless. Killing civilians, not paying Jesse for meth.
@@KAzik10001 Yeah the Salamancas may be good at killing and intimidation but they aren’t very good at anything else. Especially with how poorly their businesses seem to be doing and the meager money they offer Eladio.
@TrashcanTroubadourHector has always been a reckless fool.. Remember when he went to Los Pollos Hermanos to shake Gus down… The guy with the bad haircut didn’t want the woman to leave while Nacho told him to let them go.. Hector is too spontaneous and reckless.. Eladio tolerated him because he was there from the start and built the Cartel with them.. As soon as Gus started moving Hector’s share which was more efficient and making Eladio WAYYYY more money… Eladio couldn’t afford to give Hector his share back JUST to make less money! Gus was playing 4d chess on Hector while Hector was playing who can throw rocks!
@@SuperJutah also Hector has no idea how to keep his mouth shut. He should know damn well what Eladio does to people who disrespect him. If it weren’t for Nacho swapping his pills, Eladio would have ordered him killed right then and there since he is actively resisting the Cartel’s plans.
I love the subtle acting from Papa Varga here, you can really see the hatred in his eyes when Hector walks in, but he's smart enough to not provoke him so he tells him very strict but politely how he's not welcome here and should leave.
I like to believe that in cinama NOTHIN is put on the scene for no reason. Even the tiny bit of detail can tell you a lot of the story. I find this very very very beautiful.
They're 2 polar opposite people, Hectors life revolves around money and thinks he can buy everyone off, but Nacho's dad is the complete opposite, he obviously doesn't care about money and just wants to live a normal good life
@@CombustixPresentshe’s talking about hector the show is about it bad people and everyone thinks whoever are the main characters they are good but in this reality they are not
I think it's noteworthy that Manuel is not afraid to confront Hector Salamanca on his own, while Hector has to be surrounded by his goons wherever he goes just so that he can feel safe.
At least Nacho's father was being polite on telling Hector to get out. Should've listened to Nacho but he got what was coming that would crippled him for the rest of his life.
Honestly, with all that Hector did that had to be one of the most psychotics things. He knew Nachos dad was an innocent, honest working man. He knew he was one of the only good things Nacho had left. Nacho repeatedly tries to beg and reason. Yet hector fucking insists to corrupt this obviously good person, supposedly because he needed the business, but more likely just because he loved to see Nacho suffer. It's really evil, but it's also just fucking mental. Nacho is a criminal who has done some crazy shit, do you really want to do the worst possible thing to him, and then STILL HAVE HIM WORK FOR YOU? Hector was so arrogant and such an asshole, he couldn't even stop in the name of self-preservation. Absolutely no surprise how it all turned out, and well deserved too.
Hector didn't mean to hurt Nacho. He needed Papa Varga because he disliked the idea of the product being shipped by the chicken trucks under Gus. So, he was (in a hurry) trying to find a way to do it more independently. He seemed to acknowledge Nacho's point when he begged, but at the same time, he believed he had a short amount of time to act and regain control over the shipping. This lead him to underestimate Papa Varga's integrity. But he never pretended he wasn't aware that Nacho's dad would dislike the whole thing: he could have acted offended as soon as Papa Varga looked at him without a greet. He allowed this, and as kindly as he believed he had to be, offered a dirty reward. When Nacho's dad told him to leave, that was what set the chain of events.
Nacho's father is great. He knows that doing something "for the family" isn't honorable if it gets people hurt. Unlike almost everyone else in this story, the excuse doesn't justify the actions of the Cartel and the people associated with it, and he doesn't treat the exchange as a good thing in the slightest. You can see how disgusted he is with his son here, almost offended that Nacho would dare leverage family for this. It contrasts well with Hector: Hector similarly is a very family-values individual, but he's unable to see how the power the Salamanca's seek is inherently self-destructive and thus isn't capable of truly valuing his family until it's far, FAR too late. It makes sense that Mr. Varga is one of the only truly righteous characters in the Breaking Bad timeline when even the most moral players of this story like Kim and Mike make up excuse after excuse for continuing to hurt people. Mr. Varga draws the line: "There's never a good reason to hurt others." And ultimately he's one of the only characters that the story props up in a purely positive light for it, despite the tragic loss of his son.
I always thought that putting his pride as a hard working incorruptible man above everything, even at the expense of his own son's life and potentially his family's was his greatest flaw. Yes it's admirable that he doesn't want to cave in to the cartel even if its for his own son's sake which shows he has a lot of integrity, but had Papa Varga agreed to turn the body shop into a front for the cartel, Nacho would not have had to try to kill Hector and subsequently fail and as a consequence get tangled up with Gus which pretty much sealed the deal for him. Had he gone along he would have saved Nacho's life or at the very least prolonged it. In a way he is responsible for his sons death. There's also no way of knowing if Hector took revenge by killing Nacho's entire family after finding out what he did to him.
It wasn't so much his son leveraging family, as his son reminding him that the Salamancas will kill every single family member they have if they don't go along with what Hector wants. Granted, his son got them into this mess in the first place ...
I have to say this. It is always cool when a young star shines. Michael Mando's performance through this whole series was nothing short of amazing. He carries the entire scene every time he is on the screen. When he is acting as a henchman to the Salamanca's when he is in fear for his family's well being, when he talks to Mike, when he talks to Gus and even when he meets his end...each of these scenarios brings a different type of acting from him. From calm to panicked to ruthless to foaming angry...It's never overacted. He's brilliant and I really hope to see him in many many projects down the pipe.
This whole character is to showcase the constant struggle between criminals and honest people who just want to get by - in many cases they don’t have a choice. If you’ve seen Sicario that’s basically the message; corruption is a seed
2:02 - Hector's expression goes instantly from friendly to angered after he acknowledges Nacho's dad reaction. I guess he is not used to be refused, lol.
Hector lacked the situational insight, intelligence and charm that other villains in the show had. He's too detached, too wretched and arrogant. Throwing money on the table is his first solution to a problem, and if that won't work, then there's violence, while he could've avoided both by just trying to connect with Nacho's father, even if it wasn't genuine. But Hector is incapable of that. It doesn't even occur to him, it seems. By approaching Nacho's dad like that and expressing his distrust, he's really just sowing the seeds of doubt and wrath in Nacho's mind. He gave him the money and still doesn't trust him, and so what ensures the safety of his operation thereafter would simply be to eliminate a potential loose end. Not exactly clever for a major player in his position. And he isn't clever, because he never connects the dots. When Nacho reveals it was him who put him in that wheelchair, Hector's surprised. Meaning that when he basically threatened Nacho's dad, to Nacho's face, he didn't anticipate a son to prioritize the well-being of his own father over loyalty to 'the boss'. He actually thinks he holds that much power over his subjects.
I love this scene. It shows you how a father can be doing all the right things for his son all those years. Showing him the right way. And yet he still seeks approval from another grown man who is obviously leading him down the wrong road. And he knows he can kill them at any time poor nacho.
I think by this point Nacho wasn’t seeking Hector’s approval, he went down a bad path years ago and hates himself because now his father who is an honest man is in danger from another older man from the same country but they couldn’t be more different. Nacho knows Hector is scum and his dad knows that even better
One thing I don't get; Hector said he didn't trust Nacho's dad, Nacho didn't want Hector doing business there. So why wouldn't they just pick somewhere else? The Salamancas were rich. They could just lease a building somewhere and start their own front business or whatever and get regular shipments from over the border. Beat Gus at his own game.
When has Hector ever listened to anybody in the series? He acts impulsively and takes by force as does all the Salamancas. Gus said it perfectly to Lalo, the Salamancas have no vision.
Hector and all the salamancas are psychos. They take by force and killing a man for his business is easier than making a new one. To hector, the shop was already his property.
If they leased a place it could be traced back to them. Papa varga was already getting supplies for his shop from Mexico it would be easier and less conspicuous
It’s just one of those things you have to suspend disbelief for, you can try to rationalize it but at the end of the day they needed hector to want this shop in particular so nacho had a reason to try and kill him
The cartel scenes in BB and BCS are so good I could watch them all day. The acting and writing is phenomenal. Everyone is perfectly cast. Would love to see more of it.
It is a pity such a noble and honest man has to lower himself to that point. In the end he will loose his son and will never know what happened to him. His son disgraced his family.
Nacho’s dad was bringing in his leathers from Mexico (Jalisco if I remember correctly) and Hector wanted to smuggle in coke through there and use his upholstery business as a front.
As a business owner myself, Hector is the one who was disrespectful, the idea that I work my balls off to provide for my family and make an honest living. The some criminal thinks he can come in and control me with money would be enraging. If it wasn’t for the threat of violence he would have thrown ANY amount of money back into hectors smug face.
If anyone should feel disrespected it's Nacho's dad... that "bribe" Hector offered was sad af.. he put like $600 on the table that's pitiful when you're trying to buy out someone's business to use as a front 😂😂
What's really disturbing is that this scene is a bridge between the cartels and the everyday working person. The people unconnected to the drug industry want nothing to do with it and even abhor it. However, once they cross paths in some form of interaction, they have to agree to the situation or face death.
Just another Hector Salamanca's blatant stupidity. Recklessly chose one of his employee's family member to help his crime.. no, basically to be his crime partner. This way, he basically turned his secured employee to be his biggest enemy that led to his downfall. Too many stupid things when he was still healthy. Making a chaos in the restaurant (what if the police got notified immediately?), killing the Samaritan and the loyal innocent ice cream driver, pushing Gus to go with his plan - which exactly what Gus wanted, insulting Don Eladio in front of Bolsa, etc.
This is probably one of Hector's greatest blunders, threatening Nacho's father would lead his ultimate downfall. As he said himself "Family matters most".
I always wondered why Hector didn’t order his family to go after Papa Varga once Nacho confessed to crippling him. I know Mike said anyone would have to go through him, but would Mike really be able to keep an eye on Papa Varga 24/7?
Yea, that always bothered me, I get Nacho's final moments rant is to show much he hated Hector and the Salamancas, but damn that put such a huge target on his father and anyone he might have cared for.
It doesn't make much sense. We like to assume that somehow Mike was constantly watching over Papa Varga, but its very possible that Mike realizing there's little he could really do since the Salamancas could strike at any time, left him to the mercy of his fate. Knowing the Salamancas aren't the type to forgive nor forget they either got to him before Mike and Hector died and it's never talked about, or he was still on their to-do list.
Because it would be absolutely pointless for Hector to do so? Nacho is already dead. And right now Hector’s relationship to the Cartel is in tatters as it is. There is no way the Cartel would let his family cross the border just to have some very petty and pointless revenge that accomplishes nothing.
@@justinguyos5476 Hector literally shoots at Nacho's body several times after he died. He is petty and spiteful and would do anything to get his revenge, he is not rational.
Cartel conducts themselves with much restraint North of the border, as Bolsa told Lalo + Salamanca family's fortune were in a sorry state after jailing of Tuco, death of Lalo, and crippling of Hector after heartattack, also factoring in that death of important associates like Arturo and Nacho. By the end of Better Call Saul timeline they were in pretty bad shape (implied in Breaking Bad where Crazy 8 is an important but independent drug dealer). They were just holding on to what they had in Albuquerque because of grace of cartel, any more trouble from their operations might have caused irreparable breach.
This scene reminds me of Mike explaining what happened to his son. "Only I could get him to debase himself like that" referring to when he made his son take a bribe, similar to how here, nacho makes his dad take Hector's money. I swear I find out new things about these shows every day, absolutely incredible
I think people interpreted this whole scene the wrong way .. hector really respected nacho dad .. mad it didn’t go his way but didn’t push the issue or force him simply left him alone because he knew it was a dead mission
Hector try not to be a dickhead for 5 seconds challenge (difficulty impossible)
I mean, the guy is loaded with money, and he doesn't care about his employee no wanting his father involved, and he adviced against it.
"I don't trust him"
no s**t Sherlock, Nacho told you it was a bad idea.
Just do that to another store, with a more compliant owner that takes the money and shuts up
@@veero25 Hector wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed, it's why Eladio runs things and not him.
😂😂😂
@@veero25 but then Hector wouldn't get to bully a man who hates him.
@@John-pb3wd Eladio is no genius either. He has just perfected paranoia and ruthlessness
By disrespecting, you mean politely asking him to leave with all the restraint of the heavens.
@TrashcanTroubadour Of course I have. To Hector even the smallest hint of anger is a sign of disrespect, I'm just calling the title of the video misleading.
@@danielcarithers3345 Hector felt disrespected, therefore the title is not misleading
In that world; actually, yeah
@@koko4620there’s disrespect and being unhappy with someone’s decision or opinion of you, hector wouldn’t experience disrespect without explaining his position to you, whether that be taking your balls or leaving you to be very happy you still have them
He didn’t say, no thank you I am not running that kind of business. Instead he say “Please, get out of my store” Telling a capo in a cartel what to do is a sign of disrespect. Not saying it’s justified but that’s what I took from it
Forget about Mike, Nacho's dad had balls the size of aircraft carriers.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's easy to have confidence when you know you're the most skilled and capable person in any room you're in and can outmaneuver your enemies even when outnumbered, Mike's confidence is because he knows he can keep himself safe but Nacho's dad knows he is powerless in the situation and still stands tall so his confidence is way more impressive.
Manuel, being on the path of righteousness gives him confidence. Mike, being on the path the game took him gives him confidence. And yes, there's a distinct difference in the two.
@@ThePikeOfDestiny Being weak and standing tall is not impressive at all. Being weak yet stubborn gets your family killed.
I forget which criminal said it, but “if someone is truly square, you can’t really mess with them like we mess with each other.” It’s like hypnosis only working on some people and not others.
Never underestimate someone's love for his father. Hector said himself. "La familia es todo". He got what he deserved...
As evil as Don Hector is, I love his character. He is more than competent at his trade and you can tell he earned his stripes through years of being both ruthless and smart.
@@kimloy8019 Except Hector is a complete dumbass who got outplayed and got his whole family he claims to love so much killed.
He is ruthless though.
@@kimloy8019than how did Gus run circles around him? Gus had him played as a patsy for most of the show and he never even realized it.
if Nacho loved his father he never would have got mixed up in the cartel in the first place. as if the cartel using his family wasn’t obvious enough, Nacho died and his dad never saw him again. nEvEr UnDeReStImAtE lOvE fOr FaMily - more like never delude yourself into thinking your decisions affect only you
@@kylerstorm9260maybe to make more money
And just like that, Hector signed his death warrant
A wheelchair warrant.
@@a.m.studios6126 Eventually leading to his death.
a convoluted death warrant that took many years to be fulfilled. but yeah, you make an excellent point. the wheelchair blowing up probably never would have happened if not for this happening.
Vegetable Warrant
only to be saved by someone who hates him more than nacho
2:36 - you feel so bad for Papa Varga. The thought of even touching corrupt cartel money goes against everything he stands for in life.
Good thing he gave it back when he showed up to Nacho's house
He chose his morals over his son
@@AlphonseWeebayhis Son chose crime over his family
@@JimmyBoy9878 Sometimes falling in with the wrong crowd happens unintentionally
@@eaterofspiders but that doesnt excuse his actions. That may explain it but doesnt excuse it
Other way around. It was Hector who was boarish and rude.
He treated papa as just another of his mules . Same as he viewed Nacho.
As polite as Manuel was trying to be, he still defied a capo by telling him to leave the store. You don't tell a cartel boss what to do unless you're ready for a war
he has to.. because if not salamanka would pop him!
You never tell a boss what to do, Even if he's not YOUR boss
*boorish
Yep. But he thinks throwing money at someone is being nice. Not to mention it's stupid for him when Nacho told him his old man wasn't in the game and that he'd think Nacho would let him hurt his father.
In the end he lost his son but he outlived them all.
The thing is he realized from the start that he is going to lose his son, or in fact, he already lost his son, that's what makes it so sad
Which was the very thing he wanted to avoid.
@cl1xor yeah that's the feeling I got every time I saw him. He knew his son was dead probably years before it happened, when Nacho started working in the game. People don't just walk away from that.
Exactly
Hector lost his entire family,friends and associates, all while being tormented and teased by Fring
Good will always prevail. Bless Papa Varga
2:50 - I love how this shot lingers on Papa Varga instead of immediately cutting away. We see the anguish and sadness because he sees the corrupt world his son is mixed up with
Hector: I don’t trust him.
Hector as good as told Nacho that he is going to kill his father for daring to stand up against him.
And what would that accomplish? That’s the reason why Salamancas could never compete with Gus in terms of business. They were too reckless. Killing civilians, not paying Jesse for meth.
@@KAzik10001 Yeah the Salamancas may be good at killing and intimidation but they aren’t very good at anything else. Especially with how poorly their businesses seem to be doing and the meager money they offer Eladio.
@@justinguyos5476having millions of dollars at the ready all legal through money laundering you definitely arent small
@TrashcanTroubadourHector has always been a reckless fool.. Remember when he went to Los Pollos Hermanos to shake Gus down…
The guy with the bad haircut didn’t want the woman to leave while Nacho told him to let them go..
Hector is too spontaneous and reckless..
Eladio tolerated him because he was there from the start and built the Cartel with them..
As soon as Gus started moving Hector’s share which was more efficient and making Eladio WAYYYY more money…
Eladio couldn’t afford to give Hector his share back JUST to make less money!
Gus was playing 4d chess on Hector while Hector was playing who can throw rocks!
@@SuperJutah also Hector has no idea how to keep his mouth shut. He should know damn well what Eladio does to people who disrespect him. If it weren’t for Nacho swapping his pills, Eladio would have ordered him killed right then and there since he is actively resisting the Cartel’s plans.
I take comfort knowing that the Salamancas will never bother Papa Varga again
2:11 You can see the digust on Nacho's face when he has to take Hector's side over his father.
I love the subtle acting from Papa Varga here, you can really see the hatred in his eyes when Hector walks in, but he's smart enough to not provoke him so he tells him very strict but politely how he's not welcome here and should leave.
1:35 I love how the bell on the counter matches Don Hector’s shirt color
I like to believe that in cinama NOTHIN is put on the scene for no reason. Even the tiny bit of detail can tell you a lot of the story. I find this very very very beautiful.
Bravo Vince!!!
Good eye friend! I didn't catch that at all!
Likely intentional, the writers are crazy about symbolism through colour. Was extremely prevalent in BB, too.
the foreshadowing is crazy
They're 2 polar opposite people, Hectors life revolves around money and thinks he can buy everyone off, but Nacho's dad is the complete opposite, he obviously doesn't care about money and just wants to live a normal good life
It's not just that. It's that next to Nacho's father, Hector realizes he's just human scum with a big wallet.
There is clean honest money and dirty money. Nacho's Dad only wants the former, as do I.
3:03 the moment Nacho realized he needed to deal with Don Hector after that long non-response
Papa Varga is my favorite character. He reminds you that just because some characters are the protagonists it doesn't make them good...
why is he the one reminding you of that?
Yes, him giving Mike a reality check was one of my favorite scenes.
And being a good guy would, if not for the extraordinary intervention of Mike, have resulted in his being tortured to death
@@CombustixPresentshe’s talking about hector the show is about it bad people and everyone thinks whoever are the main characters they are good but in this reality they are not
Manuel Varga and Donald Margolis (Jane’s dad) are the two purest characters in this universe imo, at least the ones that aren’t kids
I think it's noteworthy that Manuel is not afraid to confront Hector Salamanca on his own, while Hector has to be surrounded by his goons wherever he goes just so that he can feel safe.
Even though Nacho unfortunately met his end by the time the events of Breaking Bad started, I’m glad Papa Varga made it out!
Made it out with what though. He'll be living with ghosts for the rest of his life.
No one wants to outlive their child.
The theory goes that he's dead by the time BrBa starts.
@@sithlordmikeypjust because he doesn’t appear in BrBad doesn’t mean anything. His connection to Hector died with Nacho. No reason for him to appear.
Alive but empty
The exact same thing happened to Matty (Mikes son) he was offered money, he hesitated and thus he couldn’t be trusted and had to be killed.
yo good eye i never caught that one
One of the reasons Mike has a soft spot for Nacho
I love how manuel is just disgusted when he looks Hector in the eyes , pure gold honest man
Papa has seen this before. He knew what he was doing and where that road leads.
At least Nacho's father was being polite on telling Hector to get out. Should've listened to Nacho but he got what was coming that would crippled him for the rest of his life.
When an unstoppable force meets an immovable object
lol imagine if Nachos father started nodding and smiling while shaking Hectors hand as he laid the money on the counter.
RIP Mark Margolis, he does not get the credit he deserved for his performance as Hector
Rest in piss
3:29 why? Cause he cant buy him? Looks like money cant but everything
Honestly, with all that Hector did that had to be one of the most psychotics things.
He knew Nachos dad was an innocent, honest working man. He knew he was one of the only good things Nacho had left. Nacho repeatedly tries to beg and reason. Yet hector fucking insists to corrupt this obviously good person, supposedly because he needed the business, but more likely just because he loved to see Nacho suffer.
It's really evil, but it's also just fucking mental. Nacho is a criminal who has done some crazy shit, do you really want to do the worst possible thing to him, and then STILL HAVE HIM WORK FOR YOU? Hector was so arrogant and such an asshole, he couldn't even stop in the name of self-preservation.
Absolutely no surprise how it all turned out, and well deserved too.
Given what he did to Gus and thought he could get away with it, it makes sense
But also the sheer irony that he says that family comes first, while clearly making Nacho choose crime or family
Hector was the cartel boss despite having the same level of patience and emotional intelligence as a 5-year old who is denied candy.
Hector didn't mean to hurt Nacho.
He needed Papa Varga because he disliked the idea of the product being shipped by the chicken trucks under Gus. So, he was (in a hurry) trying to find a way to do it more independently.
He seemed to acknowledge Nacho's point when he begged, but at the same time, he believed he had a short amount of time to act and regain control over the shipping. This lead him to underestimate Papa Varga's integrity. But he never pretended he wasn't aware that Nacho's dad would dislike the whole thing: he could have acted offended as soon as Papa Varga looked at him without a greet. He allowed this, and as kindly as he believed he had to be, offered a dirty reward. When Nacho's dad told him to leave, that was what set the chain of events.
Don't trust him? You involved him Hector xD
Nacho's father is great. He knows that doing something "for the family" isn't honorable if it gets people hurt. Unlike almost everyone else in this story, the excuse doesn't justify the actions of the Cartel and the people associated with it, and he doesn't treat the exchange as a good thing in the slightest.
You can see how disgusted he is with his son here, almost offended that Nacho would dare leverage family for this. It contrasts well with Hector: Hector similarly is a very family-values individual, but he's unable to see how the power the Salamanca's seek is inherently self-destructive and thus isn't capable of truly valuing his family until it's far, FAR too late. It makes sense that Mr. Varga is one of the only truly righteous characters in the Breaking Bad timeline when even the most moral players of this story like Kim and Mike make up excuse after excuse for continuing to hurt people.
Mr. Varga draws the line: "There's never a good reason to hurt others." And ultimately he's one of the only characters that the story props up in a purely positive light for it, despite the tragic loss of his son.
I always thought that putting his pride as a hard working incorruptible man above everything, even at the expense of his own son's life and potentially his family's was his greatest flaw. Yes it's admirable that he doesn't want to cave in to the cartel even if its for his own son's sake which shows he has a lot of integrity, but had Papa Varga agreed to turn the body shop into a front for the cartel, Nacho would not have had to try to kill Hector and subsequently fail and as a consequence get tangled up with Gus which pretty much sealed the deal for him. Had he gone along he would have saved Nacho's life or at the very least prolonged it. In a way he is responsible for his sons death. There's also no way of knowing if Hector took revenge by killing Nacho's entire family after finding out what he did to him.
Worst take ever
"waaaaalt witmaaaaan overe hereeeee "- Silvio Dante
It wasn't so much his son leveraging family, as his son reminding him that the Salamancas will kill every single family member they have if they don't go along with what Hector wants. Granted, his son got them into this mess in the first place ...
How did he know that they are cartel?
I have to say this. It is always cool when a young star shines. Michael Mando's performance through this whole series was nothing short of amazing. He carries the entire scene every time he is on the screen. When he is acting as a henchman to the Salamanca's when he is in fear for his family's well being, when he talks to Mike, when he talks to Gus and even when he meets his end...each of these scenarios brings a different type of acting from him. From calm to panicked to ruthless to foaming angry...It's never overacted. He's brilliant and I really hope to see him in many many projects down the pipe.
Michael mando was already incredibly well known because of his performance as Vaas
@@Musti101 as Vaas in what?
@@robertstewart1223 far cry 3. search up "far cry 3 definition of insanity" it's amazing
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This whole character is to showcase the constant struggle between criminals and honest people who just want to get by - in many cases they don’t have a choice. If you’ve seen Sicario that’s basically the message; corruption is a seed
1:36 don hector 😂😂
2:02 - Hector's expression goes instantly from friendly to angered after he acknowledges Nacho's dad reaction.
I guess he is not used to be refused, lol.
He’s not use to being spoken to like that. Even Gus had to hide his resentment
*Offers a civilian money who wants nothing to do with the cartel*
*Gets kicked out from his shop*
I DoN'T TrUST hIM
Hector lacked the situational insight, intelligence and charm that other villains in the show had. He's too detached, too wretched and arrogant. Throwing money on the table is his first solution to a problem, and if that won't work, then there's violence, while he could've avoided both by just trying to connect with Nacho's father, even if it wasn't genuine. But Hector is incapable of that. It doesn't even occur to him, it seems. By approaching Nacho's dad like that and expressing his distrust, he's really just sowing the seeds of doubt and wrath in Nacho's mind. He gave him the money and still doesn't trust him, and so what ensures the safety of his operation thereafter would simply be to eliminate a potential loose end. Not exactly clever for a major player in his position. And he isn't clever, because he never connects the dots. When Nacho reveals it was him who put him in that wheelchair, Hector's surprised. Meaning that when he basically threatened Nacho's dad, to Nacho's face, he didn't anticipate a son to prioritize the well-being of his own father over loyalty to 'the boss'. He actually thinks he holds that much power over his subjects.
I love this scene. It shows you how a father can be doing all the right things for his son all those years. Showing him the right way. And yet he still seeks approval from another grown man who is obviously leading him down the wrong road. And he knows he can kill them at any time poor nacho.
I think by this point Nacho wasn’t seeking Hector’s approval, he went down a bad path years ago and hates himself because now his father who is an honest man is in danger from another older man from the same country but they couldn’t be more different. Nacho knows Hector is scum and his dad knows that even better
One of the most innocent characters and the most evil character interacting.
“Nacho’s father disrespects Hector” did Lalo make this video title? Fym his dad was disrespectful? 💀
I remember Papa Varga for awhile working cleanup at JFK International Airport. The actor has a small part in the 2004 Tom Hanks movie, 'The Terminal'.
Like you mean the actor working on the airport ?
I imagine Papa Varga tossing that filthy cash in the trash can.
Spot d*ad
Nacho's Father. The man of steel balls to stand against cartel boss.
One thing I don't get; Hector said he didn't trust Nacho's dad, Nacho didn't want Hector doing business there. So why wouldn't they just pick somewhere else? The Salamancas were rich. They could just lease a building somewhere and start their own front business or whatever and get regular shipments from over the border. Beat Gus at his own game.
When has Hector ever listened to anybody in the series? He acts impulsively and takes by force as does all the Salamancas. Gus said it perfectly to Lalo, the Salamancas have no vision.
Hector and all the salamancas are psychos. They take by force and killing a man for his business is easier than making a new one. To hector, the shop was already his property.
If they leased a place it could be traced back to them. Papa varga was already getting supplies for his shop from Mexico it would be easier and less conspicuous
the dads business was a trusted business that was clean as far as dea and customs was concerned.
It’s just one of those things you have to suspend disbelief for, you can try to rationalize it but at the end of the day they needed hector to want this shop in particular so nacho had a reason to try and kill him
This is one of the few characters in crime shows that has a good heart and is completely incorruptible .
Nacho's father was a man with principles.
The cartel scenes in BB and BCS are so good I could watch them all day. The acting and writing is phenomenal. Everyone is perfectly cast. Would love to see more of it.
Hector earns respect either by fear or bribery, but Papa Varga is not influenced by either.
Proper title would be "Nacho's Father Stood His Ground". You can't disrespect somebody who has no respect.
The boss can sock me!. Who do you think you are?!
I don trust heem...
I wonder why Hector's shirt color matched the service bell on the counter? 1:36
RIP Mark Margolis
Hector is one of the greatest villains in TV history.
Count all the Salamanca's. All great villains
It is a pity such a noble and honest man has to lower himself to that point.
In the end he will loose his son and will never know what happened to him.
His son disgraced his family.
This is the scene that made me glad to see Hector in agony when being tortured by Gus in BB.
Actually its the reverse Hector disrespected Nachos father
My question to Don Sore Throat: if u "dont trust him" why set up shop there? Go somewhere else!
Because Hector is used to taking what he wants and damn the consequences. Worked for a while.
It's one of the few options available to him to set up his own operation, since he doesn't want to rely on Gus.
Nacho’s dad was bringing in his leathers from Mexico (Jalisco if I remember correctly) and Hector wanted to smuggle in coke through there and use his upholstery business as a front.
Interesting to note that Don Hector pre paid cash for that bell on the counter before he could permanently use it, ding ding 🛎️
Papa Varga stood his ground like a man. Hector says he doesn’t trust him but he fundamentally respects him.
This is the moment Don Hector needed to become Don Handicapped
As a business owner myself, Hector is the one who was disrespectful, the idea that I work my balls off to provide for my family and make an honest living. The some criminal thinks he can come in and control me with money would be enraging. If it wasn’t for the threat of violence he would have thrown ANY amount of money back into hectors smug face.
2:03 Hector: I'm sorry, what?
Shame on Nacho for getting involved in this trade and putting his family in jeopardy
If anyone should feel disrespected it's Nacho's dad... that "bribe" Hector offered was sad af.. he put like $600 on the table that's pitiful when you're trying to buy out someone's business to use as a front 😂😂
What's really disturbing is that this scene is a bridge between the cartels and the everyday working person. The people unconnected to the drug industry want nothing to do with it and even abhor it. However, once they cross paths in some form of interaction, they have to agree to the situation or face death.
Just another Hector Salamanca's blatant stupidity. Recklessly chose one of his employee's family member to help his crime.. no, basically to be his crime partner. This way, he basically turned his secured employee to be his biggest enemy that led to his downfall.
Too many stupid things when he was still healthy. Making a chaos in the restaurant (what if the police got notified immediately?), killing the Samaritan and the loyal innocent ice cream driver, pushing Gus to go with his plan - which exactly what Gus wanted, insulting Don Eladio in front of Bolsa, etc.
The bell in the counter is an incredible piece of foreshadowing.
Being a Man like Nacho's Dad should be every young Mans goal.
It must've killed Nacho to do this to his father. He was pleading with papa varga here.
the moment mike tell him about nachos death was so touching
Crossed the limit between integrity and stupidity
Even if it means stupidity better show some damn respect to these honest stubborn people who won’t back down with threats or bribe
Idiotic way to go through life. Doesn't like anyone he can't trust, can't trust anyone he can't buy, and doesn't respect anyone he can buy.
Hector is the one disrespecting Nacho's father
Such a disgraceful son to bring that kinda energy home. And then turn to your pops and make him capitulate to another man. Smh.
He had no choice
3:19 say that again?
Hawk tuah to him 💯💯💯💯
To not be trusted by Don Hector means he’s a decent person. He actually works for a living.
Nachos Dad: "Fifty thousand"
Hector: "Not the hand grenade stunt again"
The title is misleading, Ignacio's father did not direspect Hector. He simply took insult to the refusal
Nacho's father was the only honest person in the entire BB and BCS universe (Hank wasn't 100% honest either, hiding Marie's thefts)
Nachos father is a real man of honor.
This is probably one of Hector's greatest blunders, threatening Nacho's father would lead his ultimate downfall. As he said himself "Family matters most".
am i the only one who finds it a lil freaky of Hector calling another grown man “papi”
"Respect has to be earned Sweet, just like money."
- Melvin "Big Smoke" Harris
I never thought about this but absolutely nobody in this entire series has a mother in the picture except jesse
I always wondered why Hector didn’t order his family to go after Papa Varga once Nacho confessed to crippling him.
I know Mike said anyone would have to go through him, but would Mike really be able to keep an eye on Papa Varga 24/7?
Yea, that always bothered me,
I get Nacho's final moments rant is to show much he hated Hector and the Salamancas, but damn that put such a huge target on his father and anyone he might have cared for.
It doesn't make much sense. We like to assume that somehow Mike was constantly watching over Papa Varga, but its very possible that Mike realizing there's little he could really do since the Salamancas could strike at any time, left him to the mercy of his fate. Knowing the Salamancas aren't the type to forgive nor forget they either got to him before Mike and Hector died and it's never talked about, or he was still on their to-do list.
Because it would be absolutely pointless for Hector to do so? Nacho is already dead. And right now Hector’s relationship to the Cartel is in tatters as it is. There is no way the Cartel would let his family cross the border just to have some very petty and pointless revenge that accomplishes nothing.
@@justinguyos5476 Hector literally shoots at Nacho's body several times after he died. He is petty and spiteful and would do anything to get his revenge, he is not rational.
Cartel conducts themselves with much restraint North of the border, as Bolsa told Lalo + Salamanca family's fortune were in a sorry state after jailing of Tuco, death of Lalo, and crippling of Hector after heartattack, also factoring in that death of important associates like Arturo and Nacho. By the end of Better Call Saul timeline they were in pretty bad shape (implied in Breaking Bad where Crazy 8 is an important but independent drug dealer). They were just holding on to what they had in Albuquerque because of grace of cartel, any more trouble from their operations might have caused irreparable breach.
3:18 HAWK TUAH TO HIM 💯💯💯💯
1:07
This is RIGHT WHERE Nacho gets that look of, “AWWW SHIT, HERE WE GO.”
This scene reminds me of Mike explaining what happened to his son. "Only I could get him to debase himself like that" referring to when he made his son take a bribe, similar to how here, nacho makes his dad take Hector's money. I swear I find out new things about these shows every day, absolutely incredible
Watch out for the Don Hectors in the world.
When Don Hector sealed his fate to be tied to a wheelchair. You can see a bell that foreshadows that on the desk
1:46 Presidente Grant, very important man.
I swear every video of this scene was deleted on UA-cam a while ago and I only came across one today
The way Hector spread the money out, so that Nacho's father could see "all the money he'd make" visually, felt extremely condescending as well.
It's only possible to be brave when you're scared. The father was a very brave man 💪
That death stare at 2:02 from Hector has always given me the chills
I think people interpreted this whole scene the wrong way .. hector really respected nacho dad .. mad it didn’t go his way but didn’t push the issue or force him simply left him alone because he knew it was a dead mission
Nah he DIDN'T
He was planning on k*llig the poor guy
nacho knew this moment that hector will eliminate papi and replace with someone who can be trusted. nacho was right, its hector or nacho.
Nacho's Dad is like the only purely good character in the whole show.
What about Howard, Tuco's grandma, Mike's granddaughter, Mark (Mike's son)?
I love how Hector is such an important piece of Breaking Bad but we never knew how he ended up in that chair until BCS
Hector's change in expression around 2:02 is terrifying
aaah they teased us with that bell on the countertop