Vegans vs Carnivores: Time for Truce? Let's Team Up...

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  • @PacoCapitola
    @PacoCapitola 2 дні тому +409

    Been a carnivore since April 2019. My doctor loathes me for it. She loved me and spoke to me with respect when I was 55lbs overweight, had fatty liver, tinnitus, psoriatic arthritis, no hair, keratosis pilaris, debilitating migraines and cataracts. All disappeared, including growing a lush head of dark hair, within 12 months. My GP told me “Don’t come complain to me when you have a stroke”. My eye doctor on the other hand is impressed and said “I have never seen cataracts disappear”.

    • @w1975b
      @w1975b 2 дні тому +43

      How much money was she getting from all the drugs you were on for those "issues"? Or even just the office visits.

    • @cathiemcginnis3997
      @cathiemcginnis3997 2 дні тому +20

      Tinnitus? That seems to be the one horribly annoying issue that hasn't gotten any better while I have been on a very strict carnivore diet for 3 yrs. Dang!

    • @taphhedrof1045
      @taphhedrof1045 2 дні тому +11

      Paco, thanks for that brilliant very helpful information. I am on the Keto diet for 8 weeks to get rid of type 2D, and lower blood pressure. My BP is back to normal and I am now in Pre- Diabetes state, and down 12 lbs. Loving the food. I was Vegetarian for the last 14 years.

    • @KayvanSylvan
      @KayvanSylvan 2 дні тому +26

      sounds like you need to fire your GP.

    • @asarcadyn2414
      @asarcadyn2414 2 дні тому +8

      @@cathiemcginnis3997Many different things can cause tinnitus so maybe the carnivore diet only fixes some of those.

  • @lukag3155
    @lukag3155 3 години тому +665

    The concept of health in "The 23 Former Doctor Truths" book completely explains this. I wish I read it sooner.

  • @charliegeo2779
    @charliegeo2779 2 дні тому +175

    I was vegan for 33 years but never felt healthy. I bit the bullet and switched to carnivore and the improvements in my health are off the charts. I was never one of those asshole vegans who tries to force it on everyone, nor will I be an asshole carnivore, but I do tell everyone who's interested about the improvements I experienced. I'd say decades of depression disappearing within a month was one of the biggest wins of my life. Your videos, and those of some of your colleagues helped me make my decision. Thanks for that!

    • @Mistermopar
      @Mistermopar 2 дні тому +7

      👍Beautifully put! your words will inspire many...

    • @A1N0
      @A1N0 2 дні тому +1

      My question always is, as a Vegan, how do you get enough calories in your day without resorting to rice, pasta, bread, potatoes, and other very carb heavy foods? I never could.

    • @charliegeo2779
      @charliegeo2779 День тому +1

      French fries are vegan. I had a big belly and didn't get rid of it on Vegan. Enough years of eating all the things I now know not to eat made it very easy for me to put on weight.

    • @clare2432
      @clare2432 День тому +2

      @@A1N0 I did it successfully for seasons at a time with very high fruit - many bananas, watermelons, mangoes, dates etc and green smoothies. It feels amazing short term and my BMI was 18. The problem is sourcing so much fruit and having time to eat it all. Running on sugar feels very good and makes you want to run more. But not sustainable

    • @dj.h7424
      @dj.h7424 День тому

      Vegan wfpb never felt better, life without eating meat is blissful and by the bloods and metrics is super healthy! Meat isn't food, doesn't even look like it, just looks like what it is; death. Processed food the same, evil!!

  • @townvintage
    @townvintage 2 дні тому +141

    I was vegetarian for 25 years. As a carnivore I feel better than I ever have my entire life. I think what vegans and carnivores have in common is that a lot of carnivores used to be vegans!

  • @petercallinicos
    @petercallinicos 2 дні тому +499

    I've been carnivor for 5 years. I've completely stopped discussing my diet with anyone. No one cares what you eat. I certainly don't care what people eat.😮😮😅😅

    • @Jimbo878
      @Jimbo878 2 дні тому +84

      2 years for me, I've also stopped talking about the diet, family and friends I tried to encourage, sent them videos etc, none have paid any heed, despite being witness to the stark visible difference in my own body/energy/ enthusiasm etc. I have been disheartened as many of them would have seen enormous health gains in themselves (especially the obese and type II diabetes sufferers), I got fed hearing the sound of my own voice. So, each to their own.

    • @chrissyforanimals
      @chrissyforanimals 2 дні тому +18

      So very, very true

    • @nancychandler768
      @nancychandler768 2 дні тому +38

      I do care what people eat because it affects all of us but focusing on myself is the best way to lead by example.

    • @dannymcneal
      @dannymcneal 2 дні тому

      @@Jimbo878- Same with me and my friends and family. It’s easy to see food addiction in them. Not only that, but they are frequently bringing up my diet in an effort to belittle me-their obese selves sitting on the sidelines of life. And the rare times that I do fall off the wagon, like at a birthday party, they actually celebrate me coming back to their side for that quick visit. They say, “Well, you can’t give up all your joy! Besides, what’s the use living an extra 3 or 4 years if you’re having to give up all your pleasures?” I sit around the dinner table with them, and all they talk about are their aches and pains (mostly preventable), their doctor appointments (mostly preventable), how much their prescription med cost (mostly preventable), and who has cancer (mostly preventable). I’m done sounding like a broken record, so I will just continue carnivore, enjoying pickleball, and setting a good example-no more advice that they’re not asking for nor welcoming. If they want to know more, I’ll let them ask.

    • @BrickMudge
      @BrickMudge 2 дні тому +9

      @@nancychandler768 THANK YOU! LEADING BY EXAMPLE INCLUDES TELLING PEOPLE THINGS THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR!

  • @morganantoinettephoenix1107
    @morganantoinettephoenix1107 2 дні тому +138

    I was vegan for 10 years and it ended giving me several and severe health conditions. Thankfully carnivore helps me on a daily basis after just 3 months.

  • @grinpick
    @grinpick 2 дні тому +130

    I tried eating vegan. I tried eating exclusively carnivore. The latter helped me transition to sharply restricting refined carbs, by which I mean, for the sake of simplicity, sugar and flour. But I did not feel great under either strict regime. I currently consume a lot of meat and animal fat and also eat salads and steamed vegetables. And I feel pretty good. I'm 77, do a 4 mile jog two or three times a week and take no prescription meds. One additional point: if you're exclusively vegan or carnivore and allow your preference to become a moral issue, that attitude will make rational discussion of dietary choice difficult. In my experience this attitude is more common among vegans, many of whom seem to think that eating meat is tantamount to killing another human. I'll admit that during the 18 months or so during which I tried to be strictly vegan, I allowed that choice to become a moral issue for me. I regret that. It has been over twenty years since my vegan phase and I still find myself apologizing to people for the lofty and sanctimonious pronouncements I subjected them to during that time.

    • @TheBudgetWarrior
      @TheBudgetWarrior 2 дні тому +11

      Same here. Meat and veg with occasional fruit/berry. It’s easy to stick to, easy to eat out, and I’m healthier than ever.

    • @marinavanmens6563
      @marinavanmens6563 2 дні тому +3

      Same here …. Carnivore didn’t t work for me but will continue eating more meat than I used to

    • @djtoman6875
      @djtoman6875 День тому +2

      Very well said. I don’t have a problem with vegans, as long as they shut up and live and let live.

    • @terencemichaels
      @terencemichaels 14 годин тому

      I echo your experience ....well said.

  • @bezoar21
    @bezoar21 2 дні тому +118

    If someone feels good and is healthy, it amazes me that someone else should care what they are eating. We all have to figure out what works for ourselves. Having lost 130 pounds and resolved many medical issues, I have found what works for me. If someone else refuses to eat meat, that leaves more for me.

    • @jimrutherford2773
      @jimrutherford2773 2 дні тому

      You're somewhat naive because vegans are on a political and environmental crusade. It's not only about one diet being better than the other.

  • @nancychandler768
    @nancychandler768 2 дні тому +290

    Honestly, I rarely, if ever, see any comments from carnivores directed at vegans. I do however, see lots of trolls on carnivore chats. I don’t know any carnivore that gives a shit what vegans eat.
    Eat meat. Eat whole food. 🥩

    • @KenDBerryMD
      @KenDBerryMD  2 дні тому +74

      I see the same thing, but I'm not sure if that's reality or what the algorithm serves me...

    • @Papagiorgio153
      @Papagiorgio153 2 дні тому +1

      Veganism does something to the hardwiring in your brain, some sort of chemical imbalance that causes them to actively search for, and engage in conflict with others. It makes them insufferable ragemongers lol

    • @nancychandler768
      @nancychandler768 2 дні тому +29

      @@KenDBerryMD your take on this topic is spot on.

    • @BrickMudge
      @BrickMudge 2 дні тому +44

      Let them keep eating plants! There's not enough beef to go around! LOL!

    • @rayzztera.3171
      @rayzztera.3171 2 дні тому +23

      ​@BrickMudge as long as they don't start eating grass, that's for our cows!

  • @Sara-pb6lj
    @Sara-pb6lj 2 дні тому +84

    I’ve experimented with both a plant based woe, as well as a very low carb/carnivore-light woe (my health markers didn’t change either way). I’m at the point in my life where my focus is much more on eliminating the ultra processed stuff. In September I quit my Diet Coke habit, and have since cut out all artificial sweeteners. I’m working towards a whole foods diet, containing both plant and animal sources. No vegan fake foods and no keto fake foods. Great video Dr. B!

  • @cufever
    @cufever 2 дні тому +73

    It's a good idea. I was vegan when I found you on UA-cam. I was vegan because my doctor recommended it for health reasons. I was not vegan for ethical reasons. However, I developed type 2 diabetes. I found you and cured my diabetes within 2 months.
    Let's bring vegans along with us.

    • @sportysbusiness
      @sportysbusiness 2 дні тому

      If it helps, vegan is an ethical movement with zero to do with health. Plant based is eating plants only for health. The word vegan is now being incorrectly used to cover 2 meanings. A bit like the word woman...

  • @Ami_Decristo
    @Ami_Decristo 2 дні тому +40

    Dr Berry, I sincerely cherish you and Neisha. The two of you have been so inspiring to me. This video is another great perspective. Thank you for everything.

  • @annaferdowsian11
    @annaferdowsian11 2 дні тому +44

    I was vegetarian for 20 years with lots of vegan years sprinkled throughout. The main difference being as a vegetarian.I ate eggs and consumed dairy products. I could never stay a strict vegan because I became very sickly every time. My personal motivation was the horrid ethical practices of factory farming and big ag. Then i developed severe anemia and had to change my entire lifestyle. I'm grateful to have had the guidance of this channel. These days I have ditched the dairy and still enjoy loads of veggies of all kinds and I've slowly healed my anemia, thanks to healthy grass fed beef and other more ethically sourced red meats. Thank you for this channel and all that you do to help others 🙏 ❤!!!

  • @kimhetelle9524
    @kimhetelle9524 2 дні тому +17

    I love that you are reaching out & noticing the more similarities than differences...this is how mature & emotionally mature people have healthy conversations & sometimes just respectfully agree to disagree! I think we need to get back to more of this and less social media bashing behind a hidden keyboard! Way to go Dr B...my husband and I are new 6 weeks to Carnivore and loving the results so far! Maybe RFK willput you on his team!!! Youd be a phenomenal resource ❤

  • @MindYourOwn777
    @MindYourOwn777 2 дні тому +37

    It’s a great message here. 👍🏽 “United we stand, divided we fall.”

    • @BeefNEggs057
      @BeefNEggs057 2 дні тому

      Misguided when the other side wants you to stop existing. Depopulation agenda is what you’re trying to compromise with. There is no compromise with that.

  • @WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer
    @WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer 2 дні тому +177

    My biggest stichk is that vegans denial of the process that gets them most of their products. They claim it’s “animal cruelty free”. For example, soybeans require farmers to eliminate all animals in the farming fields. Animals include rodents and birds. It’s hypocritical.

    • @marciavimazal8692
      @marciavimazal8692 2 дні тому +8

      While I agree animals need to be humanly treated, just remember cows in their current state are bread to eat. Some consider cows as pets, but this is not most of us. Just because you may have a pet dog doesn't mean you will eat that dog because that's not why the dog was bread. Great video!

    • @kevincaruthers5412
      @kevincaruthers5412 2 дні тому +13

      @@marciavimazal8692 The word is 'bred' not 'bread'.
      One describes genetic transfer.
      The other is an excuse to eat butter.
      :)

    • @BeefNEggs057
      @BeefNEggs057 2 дні тому

      @@marciavimazal8692 They exist to give us nutrition. Your plants are grown and kill wild animals by the boatload to give you “nutrition.” What’s the difference? The cows wouldn’t exist if they were not to be eaten. The wild animals your agriculture kills would exist in greater numbers. Cows improve soil. Ag ruins soil and contributes by far the most to water quality problems.

    • @AnteroH
      @AnteroH 2 дні тому +1

      Your statement is over exaggerated but I understand your point and small critters get killed during the farming process. But would you consider the intentional killing of a person the same as an auto accident that kills someone?
      Thats how vegans think of it. The intentional killing of an animal is cruel while the accidental killing of an animal is sad and unfortunate.

    • @WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer
      @WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer 2 дні тому

      @@AnteroH it’s not being hyperbolic. Avocados and Almonds in California for example require massive amounts of bee importations. 2/3rds don’t survive the journey. Tens of millions of bees die needlessly just to have avocado toast. Soybeans are even worse. Hundreds of birds and vermin in a 10 acre farming sector just to get your soy beans. This involves poisoning, shooting, etc. there are alternatives like tomatoes, potatoes etc that don’t require those drastic measures, but they’re nutrient lacking. Look if vegans know this, accept the risk and don’t refer it to “cruelty-free”, most people don’t take issue. The problem is that they use semantics to downplay this such as animal deaths are byproducts of this, so no animal was harmed in the harvesting. Thus, cruelty free. Carnivores accept that you have to kill an animal in order to harvest its meats. We want to minimize the pain and suffering, a minimally cruel death and having an stress-free environment to develop in. That’s the big difference.

  • @tarabooartarmy3654
    @tarabooartarmy3654 2 дні тому +32

    I’m not a vegan but I do eat mostly plant based. I tried keto and carnivore and felt sick the whole time. I’m not against either lifestyle for people who do well on it, I just personally felt horrible even though I lost over 100 pounds. I have zero hate toward the keto/carnivore community and I absolutely agree that big food and ultraprocessed junk are the common enemies. And seed oils! Whether you’re eating carnivore, vegan, or anywhere in between, eating primarily whole food is the way to go.
    I feel very, very good on my current way of eating and my health has improved drastically. I think it’s wonderful that there are multiple ways people can improve their health and feel better while still eating a diet they enjoy.
    I think it’s beautiful for all of us to get along and try to help one another with kindness and understanding.

    • @lesliehunter1340
      @lesliehunter1340 18 годин тому

      Well said!!! Thanks for the balanced reply!!

    • @miklimecat9636
      @miklimecat9636 17 годин тому

      🤔 I wonder if the not feeling good was due to the transition period when the body is switching from being carb-fueled to being fat-fueled. Dr. Phinney and Volek's study indicated it took an average of 3 weeks to adjust to a keto diet. And an additional 3 months or so for the body to become fat-adapted enough for exercise performance to return to normal.

  • @Sabgoed
    @Sabgoed 5 годин тому +1

    Dr. Berry, I don't think I have thanked you for all the information you have put out there for us. I have been following you and your info for more than 3 years. I am doing the low carb and have went from 220 to 165. I had so much wrong with this body, but I am healing it now. Slow and steady is how I am healing. So once again Thank you.

  • @stephenford5031
    @stephenford5031 2 дні тому +19

    Congratulations! Ken and Neisha, I greatly respect how you are trying to merge our partners with the Whole Foods concept. Many thanks for sending out the olive branch to Anyone who would like to improve their health, Hazza!

  • @STrouwborst
    @STrouwborst День тому +5

    Spot on! There's enough conflict in the world. I can only but totally agree with this. Let's start by being kind to one another and then join together in our effort to be better and healthier human beings.

  • @paulhailey2537
    @paulhailey2537 2 дні тому +86

    I was a 455 pound Vegetarian and now I'm a 200 pound CARNIVORE

    • @AnonymousPerson488
      @AnonymousPerson488 День тому +1

      Wow! Vegetarian but processed chips, pasta, bread I assume?

    • @Pvt-Lenny
      @Pvt-Lenny День тому

      @@AnonymousPerson488 yea im on carnivore but this claim he makes about 455 on vegan is sus 🤣

    • @paulhailey2537
      @paulhailey2537 День тому +1

      @AnonymousPerson488 Whole Grains and Fruit just like my Doctor Told me. Was always Starving to Death ☠️ following the Doctor's Advice

    • @leeuniverse
      @leeuniverse День тому +2

      @@Pvt-Lenny .... Actually, it's NOT "sus".... Why? Because especially if you're eating a lot of "Whole Grains", in the form of Rice, Noodles, or Breads you can gain a LOT of weight.
      Vegan's can really go either way, either skinny or overweight.

    • @martakaczmarek6886
      @martakaczmarek6886 День тому

      ​@@paulhailey2537 If we are not nourished to the fullest by macro and micro nutrients, brain keeps continue sending "eating" demand and we turn into eating machines, even catching sweets to kill this hunger. I have 171 cm 65 kg, I actually gained 5-6 kg including a lot of visible muscle. The best is this lack of hunger. In summer I had to take a flight, I ate big plate of meat, eggs and avocado in the morning and ate again after 10 hours, with no hunger. It is beatiful.

  • @theresaharding7375
    @theresaharding7375 2 дні тому +7

    I very much appreciate the calls to action: no more vegan vs carnivore "warring" words, and work together to destabilize the corporatization of food and hopefully a return to regenerative farming for whomever is being fed, and whatever is being grown. Thank you for putting yourself in the crosshair of this discourse, because you are widely respected, and what you say has gravitas in many spheres of influence.

  • @ShamsTheProducer
    @ShamsTheProducer 2 дні тому +14

    I absolutely love this! I did a vegan diet on 2 separate occasions in my life, each duration was about 2 years. I didn't feel healthier or noticed any major difference with my health. I am now 48 years old and started my carnivore journey about 45 days ago. I am still getting used to it, loving it though. I appreciate this video because it makes sense to highlight the things that Carnivores and Vegans agree on, as opposed to constantly debating and arguing about what way of eating is better. Both sides are advocating for the ultimate goal, which is to cure or reverse obesity and the diseases that often develop as a result. I believe we all (mostly) can agree that 'Big Food' and 'Big Pharma' would prefer to keep people sick and medicated for 'Big Profits".

  • @colleenhaithcock216
    @colleenhaithcock216 2 дні тому +7

    ❤❤❤❤ thank you, I grew up in Michigan, where much of the Cereal industry is located. And as a result of the need for boxes, the box factories have polluted the river, rivers, and then onto the Lake Michigan.
    How we transform the economy of that state for both health and environment is really important

  • @Nu_Merick
    @Nu_Merick 2 дні тому +19

    i got to hang out with one good friend of mine from high school. we only hung out with other friends but we got to hang out 1 on 1. i knew he was vegan for years and i was keto since 2018, but we have other things in common, gaming, exercise, etc. Yea i found it to be surprisingly civil talking between both diets. he understands ketosis and utilizes it on fasting as do i. We get out macros differently but asked how he gets his fats and gets them from olive oil, avocados, etc. We talk about vitamins and proteins and also agree that ELIMINATING PROCESSED foods was the HUGE common ground. its crazy how online, these debates turn into hateful arguements but we are both open minded about it. i tried vegan brownies at his place and it was real good, and he tried zevia i brought over. he does take a bit more vitamins than i do but TBH i told him, our goals are the same, we just get there sort of differently. it was a revelation. and its funny you posted this bc this conversation happened last month lol

  • @bluedove7876
    @bluedove7876 44 хвилини тому +2

    I appreciate you pointing out things we have in common in this extremely divisive environment today. I do talk about my Proper Human Diet. I don't mind that people consider it weird. They see me refuse the pizza, the cookies, and the candy over and over again. They see that I never cave and say 'just this once'. When people seem interested in my commitment or in some of the benefits I've experienced, but say "I just couldn't do that." I don't argue or proselytize. I say, "More whole foods, less sugar."

  • @LyneGuy
    @LyneGuy 2 дні тому +11

    That was a great review of common points. In the same line as improving how animals are treated, we should also consider how monocultures and agriculture is not necessarily the best for our planet and for our food source, which is very depleted.

  • @JeanneBergeron-c5n
    @JeanneBergeron-c5n 2 дні тому +33

    It's always good to reach across the aisle

    • @BeefNEggs057
      @BeefNEggs057 2 дні тому

      Not when the other side is holding a knife. Bad idea. They want you gone lady. It’s sad so many are ignorant of the vegan cult’s real depopulation agenda.

  • @debbieclark813
    @debbieclark813 День тому +3

    Agree with Dr. Berry let’s work together to get rid of the harmful foods like sugar, ultra processed foods & seed oils!! The rest can be debated respectfully

  • @lynnhilding3200
    @lynnhilding3200 2 дні тому +2

    I love this approach. I was introduced to PhD by a lady who came to my sale over 2 years ago. I am 74 and have healed from ibs, pre-diabetic labs, neuropathy and have been tumor free after lung and brain melanoma tumors removed over a year ago. Thank you and keep up the open communication. ❤

  • @Fosterw2
    @Fosterw2 2 дні тому +6

    Thanks for all you do Dr KDB - GREAT SHIRT !!!! Most def, we gotta team up to get our country / children healthy and thinking clearly again for sure

  • @peacewithHim
    @peacewithHim 2 дні тому +12

    My opinion only. There is true middle ground here that, if taken by both preferred eating styles, will benefit all in the fight for healthier humans. Large companies promoting highly processed items that, for the most part, are not even food at all and the pharmaceutical companies making a huge profit off the unwell coupled with insurance companies making bank off illnesses caused by all that are the real enemies of health. Both preferred eating styles need to stand together against them.

  • @gigisc6844
    @gigisc6844 2 дні тому +11

    Vegan for 16 years. I feel great to have an abundance of energy, and I follow your channel. Vegan works for me, and carnivore diet works great for my husband. Thank you for your videos. it is very informative and helpful 👍

  • @krisjost988
    @krisjost988 6 годин тому +1

    Thank you Dr Berry for your attempt at some reconciliation between the Carnivore & Vegan camps. I was raised in a vegetarian home and have some Vegan family members (7th day Adventist). I’m mostly Carnivore to heal from a diet that did not provide full metabolic health and resulted in CVD and pre-diabetes 2. Vegans tend to be militant about it and your kind attempt to offer an olive branch speaks to your integrity and humanity!

  • @GeezyCarnivore
    @GeezyCarnivore 2 дні тому +34

    The biggest difference between us and them is that we as carnivores suggest that our way of eating is beneficial and possibly the best way to eat where as they insist that we all conform to their dogma.

    • @rhondae8222
      @rhondae8222 2 дні тому +2

      Exactly! TBH

    • @OP-lk4tw
      @OP-lk4tw 2 дні тому +12

      because the difference is they are approaching diet from a moral pov, we from a nutritional one, that's where the dissonance happens

    • @julienfroidevaux1143
      @julienfroidevaux1143 День тому

      ​@@OP-lk4twVegans have health outcomes data like Dean Ornish heart study shows
      Carnivores have anecdotes .

  • @marlomullane7157
    @marlomullane7157 День тому +1

    I am very glad you addressed this as there is so much controversy out there causing a lot of confusion for many people'. Thank you for all of your good advice.

  • @DarthCarnivore
    @DarthCarnivore 2 дні тому +5

    It was great finally being able to shake your hand and thank you in person at KPL recently Dr. Berry! If someone is able to be healthy or even thrive on vegan diets, it doesn't invalidate my lived experiences or successes on carnivore but I think among many self-proclaimed ethical vegans, our collective N=1 successes on carnivore seems to invalidate significant parts of their worldview and identities. It can be hard to bridge the gap in perspectives between those who came to carnivore for individual health reasons and vegans who came to that way of eating for all-encompassing moral worldview reasons. But not impossible. I think you set a good example of how to bridge divides like vegan vs. carnivore. Keep up the great work!

  • @TOMGARVEYtheKETOCOOK
    @TOMGARVEYtheKETOCOOK 2 дні тому +11

    It`s apparent that someone is fueling the feud between both sides to fight! Big Food I believe. The processing of both meat and veggies is the problem with contracting some sort of E-coli, salmonella and so on! I remember the days when we would eat from the seasons! Bring back the family cattle ranch, and family vegetable farms.

  • @fragout45mightyjungle63
    @fragout45mightyjungle63 2 дні тому +9

    I'm ketovore right now and feeling great, so totally agree with you. By the way I love that shirt.

  • @dannyking7695
    @dannyking7695 2 дні тому +5

    I would like to see a discussion of the inactive ingredients in over the counter medication, especially the liquid medications. It’s very alarming what’s in them!

  • @soupnazi5139
    @soupnazi5139 2 дні тому +30

    The issue is that a vocal minority of vegans view animal rights violations as a modern day holocaust and thus do not really care about the accuracy of their nutrition claims (as long as they prevent some animal deaths).

    • @BeefNEggs057
      @BeefNEggs057 2 дні тому +5

      They’d certainly save the animal over you if given a choice. No question.

    • @w1975b
      @w1975b 2 дні тому

      @@BeefNEggs057 some of them even put animal lives above their own kids' health. And a few have gone to prison because those kids are no longer living as a result of forced veganism.

    • @alanraza2570
      @alanraza2570 2 дні тому +1

      Plants are living beings with consciousness as well. To say it's okay to eat plants but not animals actually doesn't make sense. It's vampire either way, consuming other life forms to sustain one's self, which actually isn't natural but that's how it works here.

    • @w1975b
      @w1975b 2 дні тому

      @@alanraza2570 David Icke speaks of a schism that occurred which resulted in animals needing to consume other life. May have happened, may not, just sharing one of the things I heard him say that is related to this subject.

  • @briantrout7051
    @briantrout7051 2 дні тому +14

    Meaningful conversations are difficult when people have no interest in learning, only arguing. I know what it feels like to be a vegan and falling apart despite eating like all of those vegan doctors tell us to. So far, heavy meat based low-carb (have never made it to full on carnivore) has not been like that for me, and I've been at this for most of a decade now. Brief times of high carbs have told me that I would not do well (or feel well) to return to old eating habits, even with "good whole foods". For those who have decided to be vegans, I wish them well, sincerely. But they won't convince me that I'd do well as a vegan because I've been there, I wasn't well.

  • @sharvo6
    @sharvo6 2 дні тому +8

    Reaching across the aisle to open minds to common principles and common good ... not very fashionable in many spheres at the moment ... best of luck! Maybe you'll start a trend 👍

  • @th5579
    @th5579 2 дні тому +10

    It’s also important to get our soil, using cattle, etc, healthy again!

  • @scottpierce9195
    @scottpierce9195 2 дні тому +7

    I've always thought you approached this debate the right way. I am a beef bacon butter and eggs guy myself but I agree that at least the vegans get it, it's the food that's killing us.

  • @johntbehan5731
    @johntbehan5731 2 дні тому +8

    This is a very good start and help stop the guilt tripping so many and come together on regenerative farming and getting nutrients back into the soil and much more on how animals are raised and how there lives are ended for food i have been on both side,s of this and put me and many people off....thank you

  • @wtk6069
    @wtk6069 2 дні тому +8

    Logically speaking, why should carnivores and vegans ever fight? We'll never be in competition for the same food supply. Being no threat to one another should make us natural allies.

  • @GramaSagefeather
    @GramaSagefeather 2 дні тому +30

    We all need to stop fighting about everything. Humans have been divided by every conceivable subject.
    Thank you for reaching out.
    Another thing that connects both camps, is soil health, pesticide, herbicide use, and air pollution. All these toxins go into our food supply, and decrease wildlife, and native plant health.
    RFK Jr. now has a podcast on UA-cam. He is talking to food producers, and addressing/exposing information so that the public can understand how our food supply has been co opted by big gov/industry.

  • @Reilly-jr1sq
    @Reilly-jr1sq 2 дні тому +3

    Dr. Berry, I think that if more vegans who are not eating meat because they don't want to kill an animal knew about all the death involved in agriculture's methods for growing plants, AND if they knew about the advantages to the earth, the animals, and the humans with regenerative farming, many heads would be turned. How about a shortened version of your interview with Lierre Keith, for example? Vegans/vegetarians would greatly benefit from this information! thanks for considering this.

  • @steveguti6452
    @steveguti6452 2 дні тому +61

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    • @bobbylee2853
      @bobbylee2853 2 дні тому +1

      Over 1000 subscribers with 0 content. 😅

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      @deborrahdutra5599 2 дні тому +4

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      @nancychandler768 2 дні тому

      🤔

    • @nancychandler768
      @nancychandler768 2 дні тому

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    • @User-z1g3z
      @User-z1g3z 2 дні тому +4

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  • @joeyg2860
    @joeyg2860 2 дні тому +17

    Safe to assume Dr. Berry supports RFK JR’s efforts to reform FDA,etc…

    • @loriematthews6418
      @loriematthews6418 2 дні тому +7

      I certainly do! Never seen so many chemicals! It's absolutely egregious.

  • @0e32
    @0e32 2 дні тому +8

    I know quite a few people here in Sweden who are either vegetarians or vegans and unfortunately many of them seem to be feeling pretty bad both mentally and physically. But people can eat what they want as far as I'm concerned..!

  • @jimrutherford2773
    @jimrutherford2773 2 дні тому +16

    Remember folks, this vegan vs carnivore goes beyond people thinking one diet is better health wise than the other. It involves animal rights, politics, environment. Vegans look at it as blue against red.

    • @rollinupeverest5042
      @rollinupeverest5042 2 дні тому +2

      Right their angles are the bs

    • @alstraker
      @alstraker 2 дні тому

      I've always been blue and have been carnivore for 5yrs. It's a shame politics get mixed up in it because all humans deserve real, whole food without political partisanship.

    • @everybodylovesraymond1275
      @everybodylovesraymond1275 День тому

      I bleed red...... enough said. (Mic drop.....)

  • @Soulstice1319
    @Soulstice1319 День тому

    I was just thinking of this a few days back, all of the points you mentioned. I deeply appreciate how you have handled both sides respectfully, factually, and truthfully. I absolutely think we humans most of us, are tired of these big fight and online debates across politics, culture wars, and food diets too. As a ketovore I would love to see more content like this. Hats off to you Dr Barry for doing such a fab job on this topic

  • @shimmerofadiamond
    @shimmerofadiamond 2 дні тому +11

    Focusing on why we are all similar instead of how we are different will always lead to positive outcomes! Great video!

  • @derkvandertuin6058
    @derkvandertuin6058 2 дні тому +1

    You did absoluutly the right thing to promote a truce between both ways of eating. I am carnivore and came from a whole food plant based diet, but after changing to carnivore have not felt better then ever before. Yes, indeed, as you mentioned. when I became WFPB, for a while I felt better, but after a few year did not feel right. That's the time when I found Carnivore by watching Mikhaila Peterson and your video's and chaganged to Carnivore in January this year, and have lost 20 lbs have energy galore and never felt better. Thank you Dr Berry.

  • @kenmarinc
    @kenmarinc 2 дні тому +8

    Thank you for your content and commitment 🙏🏿

  • @tammylynn00
    @tammylynn00 2 дні тому +6

    Great video Dr Berry, thank you!💜

  • @alfredkeith1272
    @alfredkeith1272 2 дні тому +4

    I think the most important thing is to actually think about what you put in your body

  • @sherrykinkade7134
    @sherrykinkade7134 2 дні тому

    Dr Berry I just love you! I am 73 and have followed you for a long time. 99 percent Carnivore, whole host of benefits including 50 pound weight loss! I wish all doctors were like you. Thank you for making this video. I agree we all need to work together. ❤

  • @GS-st9ns
    @GS-st9ns 2 дні тому +31

    🐷🐔 Eat more beef

  • @Reilly-jr1sq
    @Reilly-jr1sq 2 дні тому +1

    GREAT idea for a video (reaching across the aisle of approaches), well said dr. Berry, thank you!

  • @lezliesecundaGLP-RD
    @lezliesecundaGLP-RD 2 дні тому +4

    We stopped properly evolving as a species. Reach across. I put in 8 years of dietetic study having to go backwards in those areas to look up how my studies were done. I will be the best RD. God bless you and your beautiful wife.

    • @ernesthader1109
      @ernesthader1109 2 дні тому

      I believe we're actually regressing phyaically aince the start of agriculture revolution. We had bigger brain, leaner, perfect sets of teeth and has practically no metabolic disease back then.

  • @argentummolonlabe
    @argentummolonlabe День тому +1

    Great idea to reach across the aisle! We really shouldn't create "sides". It is human nature though as we are tribal in nature but we all need to find a diet that works for each of us and has the healthiest food possible. I'm raising my own chickens, lamb and beef now and it's changed my life! As the research grows about the carnivore diet, I think more people will see the benefit and try it out. I love your idea of not forcing anything too hard to fast. Education is the key. We need to push individualism not collectivism as G. Edward Griffin would say.

  • @judymartius7779
    @judymartius7779 2 дні тому +14

    I just eat whole none processed foods

  • @camperjack2620
    @camperjack2620 2 дні тому +1

    Well said! I believe the whole food consisting of nutrient dense items and cutting out junk food and cutting out or down on sweets to the bare minimum would solve 90 percent of our problems. Then we need to fine tune our understanding of how to reap benefits from fruits and vegetables nuts and seeds without being adversely affected by antinutrients. I have tried a bunch of health food diets in the past and nothing has even come close to the success of low carb, keto and carnivore. I cheat on my carnivore with onions and carrots and mushrooms on my eggs. I have sweet potato at dinner. I add a pint of ice cream to my shopping cart, but I am going to try to quit that this winter. I watched a Barbara O'Neal segemnt suggesting cayenne pepper. That will cure your cold hands and cold feet!

  • @_Solaris
    @_Solaris 2 дні тому +6

    This will be difficult.
    Carnivores in general eat what they consider species-appropriately as a principle.
    Vegans in general eat what they consider morally & ideologically as a principle.
    The one thing we have in common is our belief that we're eating for health. Despite this, I'm not convinced this will be enough to bring us together.

  • @williamrussell7635
    @williamrussell7635 День тому

    After almost 2 years carnivore thanks to you doctor Ken I have improved health in so many ways. Special thanks to the carnivore community on UA-cam! Shortly after becoming a carnivore I developed an inguinal hernia. Very challenging situation that led me to a plant based person who has been trying to heal it through diet and exercise..I kept on with the carnivore diet and after 1 year and following some of their exercises my hernia is almost completely under control. Whereas the plant based person has gotten control but only after 3.5 to 4 years. Thanks everyone for listening. I hope this is helpful.

  • @veronicaheaney3464
    @veronicaheaney3464 2 дні тому +3

    “Reaching across the aisle” is a fantastic idea. While I find the idea of the genetic diet ludicrous and extreme, I think that what each individual needs in terms of nutrition is individual and at least partially the result of our ancestry. Basically (my belief here), we developed in a specific way so our bodies could take full advantage of the food that was available. However, we are all human, and to meet the needs of the human body, we need specific nutrients. How much and how we get them will differ - that’s the individual part. We need to keep this in mind and not be judgmental.
    IF a person complains of a health issue which we believe could be relieved by a change in diet,
    AND
    IF they ask what we would do,
    THEN
    Offer your opinion, kindly. Otherwise, keep your opinion to yourself.

  • @MHines
    @MHines 2 дні тому +1

    Well said. I have friends that are vegan, and to tell you the truth, it's hard not to express how well me and my husband feel, not to mention reversing my husband's diabetes, and high blood pressure. I do try to talk about the commonalities as you did but I can't help but think about all of the carbs she is eating in an attempt to meet her protein needs. But she's happy and she feels healthy so I try to just leave the "lifestyle" out of it. I can imagine as a Doctor this is a challenge since you meet so many people from different walks of life. Thanks!

  • @sadiesusu1
    @sadiesusu1 2 дні тому +9

    I’m a former vegan and think this is a great idea!

  • @cherylcoan
    @cherylcoan 2 дні тому +1

    100 per cent. I've known many vegatarians through the years and they thrived on their way of eating and still do, it certainly didn't make them lesser than anyone else. I'm with you Doctor Berry. I have a friend who has been veggan for at least 4 years or more and she carries a beautiful leather purse, We need to stop judging people for how they chose to live their lives, and crawl out of the box.

  • @nogames8982
    @nogames8982 2 дні тому +5

    As far as I’m concerned, people can eat whatever they want. And that includes me. You eat what you want. I’ll eat what I want. Don’t force your beliefs on me.

  • @richardclark8656
    @richardclark8656 2 дні тому

    Nice work! Thank you so much for this video. Proud of you!!
    We need voices of people who honestly care about the health and well being of our country (not to mention the rest of the world). You’re talking not only about what’s wrong with our health picture but about the numerous positive steps we can take and how we can come together to make it happen more efficiently.
    I know you raise your own livestock and care deeply about animal welfare. Thanks for talking about that, there’s a positive future for many young people in that field.
    Overall a very positive contribution to the health of all of us!

  • @rhondae8222
    @rhondae8222 2 дні тому +4

    Thank you, Dr. Berry.

  • @feminineandfreeinforties
    @feminineandfreeinforties 2 дні тому +1

    Great video!! I love how your heart was so open while discussing both the options!! Learning loads!!

  • @kathy32850
    @kathy32850 2 дні тому +4

    Change does not happen overnight. It's cumulative which is why it takes years for vegans to see the damage that's been done. I'm 74 and it took 50 years before I saw the damage sugar, seed oils, etc., has done to my health. I'm not carnivore (maybe ketovore) and my doctor just said I am healthier than most women my age. I'll take that.

  • @lorenarmenti6295
    @lorenarmenti6295 2 дні тому +1

    Vegetarian here . . . for ethical reasons. I'm not one of those ppl who preaches that everyone should give up meat (although, that would be utopian). I DO believe that a carnivore diet is species appropriate. I wish I could eat meat, fish, etc. without the thought of it making me nauseous. Abstaining from meat definitely makes it challenging to maintain optimal health relative to nutrients, protein, etc.. Thank you for all you do to educate.

  • @justthinking526
    @justthinking526 2 дні тому +4

    Amen! Eat real food. Bless it to your body, be grateful for it. Stay away from judgement of others. We will all be healthier all around

    • @ianstuart5660
      @ianstuart5660 2 дні тому

      That Judgemental part seems to be impossible to stop for way too many people!
      😢😢

    • @justthinking526
      @justthinking526 2 дні тому +3

      @ianstuart5660 i know. All i can do is take my own advice and be the change. Bless.

    • @ianstuart5660
      @ianstuart5660 2 дні тому +3

      @@justthinking526
      Thanks, same to you!...❤️

  • @billmellen
    @billmellen 2 дні тому +1

    Did the whole food plant based diet for 5 years. It was an effort to stay on it. Came back from a bicycle vacation in Italy and had a TIA. Went off the wagon, gained weight and BP went up along with other metabolic syndrome symptoms. Now on a near carnivore diet with weight loss and improved BP. The very low carb carnivore diet is easier for me and leaves no cravings.

  • @CharlotteMagdeliene
    @CharlotteMagdeliene 2 дні тому +3

    This is the most Pluto moved into Aquarius video ever - posted on the day Pluto moves into aqaurius lol love it
    Uniting that’s the future !!

  • @suzannescheve9070
    @suzannescheve9070 4 години тому

    Reaching out to our vegan friends is wonderful and inspires connection and cooperation vs fighting. We all need to educate the collective about how big food/pharma are making us sick- and how a lack of knowledge about fake foods is our downfall. We must educate ourselves and each other and stand together.
    ❤️

  • @tlewis5901
    @tlewis5901 2 дні тому +15

    Dr. Ken D. Berry I think this is great that you propose to "reach across dividing lines" to vegans. I must state that the first time I heard and came to a conclusion of N=1 was from your lovely wife Neisha; it really hit home for me. If YOUR CHOICE of diet for YOU is working, then that is the bottom line, BUT do not force your 'success' on others work together on the greater good for the situation; which is stopping mistreatment of animals in industry, mistreatment of humans in 'big food' AND accomplishing the Make America HEALTHY Again movement. Without good health we are dead ......... thanks to all the good 'Docs' who treat the person and not the pocket.

  • @dowhatyoulove3216
    @dowhatyoulove3216 День тому

    I think this video is great. I have been vegetarian, vegan, and now carnivore. I can see why people choose these various different diets, mostly because you want to be healthy and you think you are doing the right thing.❤

  • @steveguti6452
    @steveguti6452 2 дні тому +29

    Jesus Christ died for our Sins according to the scriptures and that he was buried and that he rose Again the third day praise God praying for everyone Everyday God bless you all. .

  • @buckshotscott2616
    @buckshotscott2616 2 дні тому +3

    Good message, people think I'm nuts. But, I'm down 70 pounds since May. Mostly carnivore with a few lapses in judgment.

  • @anigrace3073
    @anigrace3073 2 дні тому +1

    I love your message ❤
    I totally agree that vegans and carnivores should join forces instead of fighting ( the big companies want us all to be confused because that makes them powerful and rich while we’re down here fighting).
    I don’t quite agree with you on the sugar topic though: many raw vegan and raw till 4 or even HCLF (high carb low fat/starch solution) promote sugar. Sugar either in fruit form, juiced, maple syrup or by blending several bananas with dates and water.
    Some strongly promote 40+ day juice fasts followed by a high carb/high fruit diet with hardly any fats (80/10/10) and this person is an ex-carnivore).
    In my experience, most vegans are pro-carbohydrates and anti-fats and carnivores are pro-fat and anti-carbohydrates.

  • @Tmanaz480
    @Tmanaz480 2 дні тому +4

    A prominent vegan leader wrote an article a while back reminding vegans that they're not doing it for their health; it's an ethical position. He freely admitted he gladly sacrifices optimum nutrition in order to respect animal rights.

    • @w1975b
      @w1975b 2 дні тому

      Veganism started in the US as a religious view. Because "eating animals leads to sinful urges", per John Kellogg (yes, the cereal king).

  • @RADIOACTIVEMASCULINITY
    @RADIOACTIVEMASCULINITY 2 дні тому

    Well said Dr. Berry! There's so many common agreements on what is terrible for all of us. We all win regardless of the which unprocessed food choice replace the ultra processed garbage.

  • @robyn3349
    @robyn3349 2 дні тому +3

    Thank you! “The Whole Foods Diet Alliance!” ❤ Reach out!

  • @AgentNoName-qr6kx
    @AgentNoName-qr6kx 23 години тому

    I want people to thrive and be healthy! One of the biggest changes I've made in the last 10 years is omitting plastics. What I can't get at the local farmers market, I buy in bulk from farmers because it comes in paper or cotton bags. Avoid plastic as much as possible.

  • @cheffatgrams
    @cheffatgrams 2 дні тому +2

    Looks like Dr Berry watched my 30 day Vegetarian Challenge 😂🤣

    • @KenDBerryMD
      @KenDBerryMD  День тому

      I haven't, but I will!

    • @cheffatgrams
      @cheffatgrams День тому

      @ 🤣😂 just kidding! I posted a challenge I did back in September 11 days ago, then I saw Nick’s video and yours. Honestly, I still haven’t fully recovered, and weirdly enough, I ended up getting the worst cold I’ve had since starting keto after that challenge. I don’t think I’ll be doing it again anytime soon! Have a blessed day

  • @DoeA-Deer
    @DoeA-Deer 2 дні тому

    Back again Dr Berry. Thanks for your really excellent book. Greatly Appreciated. X

  • @stellarogers-oo4di
    @stellarogers-oo4di 2 дні тому +3

    I was vegan, now I’m carnivore. I am from Nashville TN grew up on a Farm.

  • @DoeA-Deer
    @DoeA-Deer 2 дні тому

    Dr Berry I am more Carnivore (due to health reasons and I loved Vegan eating). However, I believe a united stance would be more impactful. The time is NOW. I know we can do this. I "NEVER ENJOYED" this battle anyway. Yes Dr Berry, try your hardest and we will too. There are MANY lovely Vegan promoters too, that I have watched in duscussion with Carnivores. Our hearts are ALL in the right place. X

  • @dzikdziki2983
    @dzikdziki2983 2 дні тому +13

    There is no peace possible. You can't really argue with a cult.

  • @chetcohron4254
    @chetcohron4254 2 дні тому

    That is correct! Keep your diet to yourself. It is no win win in explaining your diet plan even if it has been great for your health! I am staying my Carnivore Diet. I have been on this diet for 2 years and I am 79, lost 137 lbs, and feel great…not taking but one drug, for my Thyroid. Other than that I am drug free. So some people are open to new things & some aren’t. I can live with that! .

  • @BroJerHWG
    @BroJerHWG 2 дні тому +3

    The vegans push their religion on folks... carnivores mostly tell folks what a blessing the diet has been for them. Big difference...i dont get in folks face about how i eat...and i dont appreciate the wacks getting in my face, correcting my plate from across the table.. vegans can do what they want... i dont care ....but they are seriously committed to putting their focus on me spouting their dogma. Simply put: They have no respect for folks who disagree or wont comply with their dogma 😂❤

  • @kellyklassen5970
    @kellyklassen5970 2 дні тому

    Thank you Dr Berry, your heart for people is amazing! We tend to look at outward appearances when we really need to look at the heart. If we did that we would gain unity in our diversity

  • @sambo9855
    @sambo9855 2 дні тому +3

    Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems there are more militant people in the vegan space than in the carnivore. That doesn't mean all vegans are that way it just means there are more militant people that happen to be vegan. Anyway, it's better to be civil as much as possible and not engage in a heated argument. You're not gonna convince people to believe what you believe if you call them stupid.