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  • @kezzokav5905
    @kezzokav5905 7 місяців тому +47

    My partner is a painter and decorator. He's never once had an issue with dried paint coming off his trays or buckets and has had the same trays and buckets for literally years.

    • @romystumpy1197
      @romystumpy1197 6 місяців тому +6

      I've had my paint trays for years,

    • @Erickhetfield
      @Erickhetfield 6 місяців тому +9

      Me neither. It's just not an issue.

    • @tomekk.1889
      @tomekk.1889 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah this is complete bs. Trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist

    • @volundrfrey896
      @volundrfrey896 3 місяці тому +4

      It's absolutely _not_ a thing that happens. Also most diyers just buy a new one every time they need one because it's typically quite a while in between uses, this is just trying to scam customers on the promise that it's eco friendly.

    • @brettrigby2226
      @brettrigby2226 3 місяці тому +3

      you can just line them with a bag if you're that arsed xD

  • @gallifrey1985
    @gallifrey1985 Рік тому +121

    Sara is brilliant. She's an intelligent and credible young woman

    • @Frieslick
      @Frieslick Рік тому

      I don’t get why she has to sit there with a face like she’s sniffing an eggy fart half the time though.

    • @Neil2022
      @Neil2022 Рік тому +5

      Her head office is 1 mile down the road to me in sleepy Co Durham

    • @David_Mc_Our_God_Reigns
      @David_Mc_Our_God_Reigns 8 місяців тому +8

      She also cares and loves giving people a chance when other dragons won’t because they are greedy

    • @SZiv-g2w
      @SZiv-g2w 5 місяців тому

      ​@@David_Mc_Our_God_ReignsSarah bull is a mostly greedy to give her money

    • @David_Mc_Our_God_Reigns
      @David_Mc_Our_God_Reigns 5 місяців тому +4

      @@SZiv-g2w you don’t make any sense??

  • @Erickhetfield
    @Erickhetfield 6 місяців тому +27

    "Are you going to build an airport with a wanger flange?"
    You know big structures use small parts, like nuts and bolts, right Peter?

    • @Trctnctrl0ff888
      @Trctnctrl0ff888 6 місяців тому +6

      I'm in favour of the wangerflange

    • @annaagapova3583
      @annaagapova3583 4 місяці тому +2

      Ikr! They totally use those angle things in airports this product wants to replace. Why so shocked?

    • @michaelberry8096
      @michaelberry8096 3 місяці тому +3

      Yeah I really didn't like how the dragons handled his pitch. He comes in and he's like "I've invented a really useful bracket to connect building materials together!" and the dragons are like
      Deborah: "You haven't tested this on gazebos? I'm out."
      Touker: "Why didn't you make a toy instead? I'm out"
      Peter: "This can be used in airport construction? I'm out."
      Sara: "This is a great device, perfect for DIY market. I absolutely love it. I'm out."
      Didn't seem like they even gave him a chance. Probably didn't help that he was so agreeable though... I hope he went on to make the wangerflange successful, he seems like a good, down-to-earth guy.

  • @user-fn9tm4os2z
    @user-fn9tm4os2z 8 місяців тому +22

    2nd product absolutely brilliant

    • @Shottas4Twenty
      @Shottas4Twenty 8 місяців тому +5

      I agree, with COVID these became massively popular for social distancing at restaurants and can be made to look beautiful.

    • @pdan4
      @pdan4 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Shottas4Twenty Is youtube f'ing up and showing me the wrong comments? The second product here is a metal mounting bracket lmao

  • @PS-bs8oe
    @PS-bs8oe 5 місяців тому +10

    Wanger Flange literally would revolutionize world's most identified & selling furniture and homedecor firm, a swedish giant if you wouldn't have guessed. Amazing this humble handworking inventor hasn't gone immediately yo them...

  • @Orochi_001
    @Orochi_001 Рік тому +33

    I have a patent for a light mounted to a pole via Wangerflange

  • @frankieallardyce569
    @frankieallardyce569 Рік тому +161

    Big mistake Deborah not partnering with Sara, the fact Sara owns one of the largest factory's that produce the plastic trays and said she could go into the accounts and get the product in there would have been enormous for the company paired with Deborah's background. Thing Deborah got abit too big for her boots after Peter rimmed her

    • @BobbyTMF
      @BobbyTMF Рік тому +18

      You’re telling me you don’t think she can organise a deal to distribute through saras plastic tray business for possibly 0 dilution in shares? Debra has also said one of the dragons she’s been close with is sara.

    • @WTFiSMACCA
      @WTFiSMACCA 11 місяців тому +6

      Oh my, Bobby is salty, triggered

    • @tangatawhenua1477
      @tangatawhenua1477 11 місяців тому

      I was really hoping for that duo to happen there

    • @rahjah6958
      @rahjah6958 10 місяців тому +9

      @@WTFiSMACCAare you 12?

    • @ferea_896
      @ferea_896 10 місяців тому +12

      @@rahjah6958 the most entertaining part of those videos are the comments. Watching the people who are flat out broke getting worked up like they know better than the multi millionaires, and giving opinions on the deals like they would know what to do because they watched a lot of episodes of the show. I mean really 😂

  • @demonmech
    @demonmech 3 місяці тому +3

    Peter so badly didn’t want to partner with Touker that he actually takes back his offer 😂😂

    • @OctagonCookies
      @OctagonCookies 3 місяці тому

      I actually think he was throwing an assist to Debrah because he was worried she’d choose Sara

  • @olimot8081
    @olimot8081 Рік тому +29

    WangerFlange is a licensing play all day long! Where’s Kevin O’Leary when you need him?

    • @donpepsi
      @donpepsi 7 місяців тому +3

      He's busy dealing with his FTX problems

  • @AmericaManFilipinoWife
    @AmericaManFilipinoWife Рік тому +39

    What a bunch of BS if you let it dry you can use any paint pan over and over. And once you have enough layers of paint you can just peel it out of the tray.

    • @hiimjustin8826
      @hiimjustin8826 Рік тому +5

      They fast-talked Debra for sure

    • @Dreamingofyou317
      @Dreamingofyou317 6 місяців тому +1

      That doesn’t mean you can’t sell that crap though people will buy it

  • @iamkhan5339
    @iamkhan5339 Рік тому +19

    Wanga flange sounds like a move in the Kama sutra manual lol

    • @danhudson4614
      @danhudson4614 11 місяців тому

      Or some kind of funky/spongy STD.

    • @petersabolewsky4983
      @petersabolewsky4983 7 місяців тому +4

      I tried the Wanger Flange in the bedroom and put my back out.

  • @vytautasgaldikas7588
    @vytautasgaldikas7588 Рік тому +18

    Why was Peter so hostile towards Wanger Flange? lol

    • @TheEsotericProgrammer
      @TheEsotericProgrammer 7 місяців тому +18

      Some people can't accept reality, and refuse to see innovation when they see it. He may be laughing now, but in 5 years when he flies on a Wanger Flange plane we'll see who's laughing

    • @mulawarmankwsuper
      @mulawarmankwsuper 5 місяців тому

      ​@@TheEsotericProgrammer Wanger flange plan, lol

    • @EnduroUK.
      @EnduroUK. 5 місяців тому +2

      I genuinely think it was the name 😂

  • @rahjah6958
    @rahjah6958 10 місяців тому +9

    2:03 I use a plastic bag to wrap my one, works perfect, and you can get a bag……literally anywhere lol
    And putting paint…down the drain normally is not allowed lol
    Also cleaning tools is..surprisingly standard practice, if your painter leaves debris on your wall he’s not actually a painter
    For home use, this product will be used for a week then put in a cupboard and break lol
    Imagine mid paint and you step on it and it snaps 😂😂

  • @bastje
    @bastje 11 місяців тому +10

    He should have a chat with the educators in the construction industry.

  • @trudoug
    @trudoug Рік тому +22

    Peter has done it b4! He is always pushing Debra for the DIYS.

    • @ferea_896
      @ferea_896 10 місяців тому +2

      They have a very good business relationship. Both in and out of the show they are constantly pushing business to each other. So he is preserving and nurturing the relationship with the knowledge that is symbiotic and he will in the end profit from it (Debra’s success) way more than he would from the success of any other of them. And Debra does the same for him with the same knowledge. And that’s what everyone in business mean by building working relationships and protecting them. Because they are extremely profitable for the parties involved

  • @vailototafea7089
    @vailototafea7089 8 місяців тому +5

    Peter always has something to say ...he should let them make their own minds an not say to choose one particular person but Sara is a very nice person

  • @flockofwolves
    @flockofwolves Рік тому +7

    Bloke ended up looking like a right wanger flange.

  • @dusk_ene
    @dusk_ene 6 місяців тому +2

    A Sara Deborah duo is probably the most influential

  • @philiplemarchand
    @philiplemarchand Рік тому +21

    Deborah - 'Peter, can I talk to you in the bathroom please?'.....*brings kneepads

  • @cpoller
    @cpoller 4 місяці тому +1

    Wagner Flange is a great idea. I think it might be better for a construction toy type thing for kids though. Or small diy furniture.

  • @WillDeconca
    @WillDeconca Рік тому +7

    So Peter decided who get the first offer 😅

  • @olimot8081
    @olimot8081 Рік тому +24

    Still waiting for recycling to be a dirty word…

    • @hiimjustin8826
      @hiimjustin8826 Рік тому +3

      2023, still no problems sourcing styrofoam...

    • @aalokjoshi6839
      @aalokjoshi6839 11 місяців тому +3

      Already is for anyone who has a clue.

    • @alexjmurphy2145
      @alexjmurphy2145 5 місяців тому

      I predict by 2027 you'll be cancelled for this comment!!

  • @evo5dave
    @evo5dave Місяць тому

    Peter was utterly clueless from the outset of the wangerflange pitch

  • @ronmaren4135
    @ronmaren4135 5 місяців тому +2

    Peter knew that they came for Dedorah and He knew Deborah will offer 20 percent. Just to beck Deborah and push them to accept her offer he offered 25 percent.

  • @jessbarnes8521
    @jessbarnes8521 5 місяців тому +1

    Even Peter doesn’t want touker. No one seems to want touker.

  • @BTB25647
    @BTB25647 Місяць тому

    Brilliant....so Deborah won the Paint Tray deal....but now Sarah will purchase them from the company for a few cents above cost...and sell them retail for real profit !! ...Genius Deborah...Genius !!

  • @patthewoodboy
    @patthewoodboy 7 місяців тому +1

    Peter , Stansted airport is wanga flanges , they just had to do the welding instead

  • @colinhorton
    @colinhorton 6 місяців тому +1

    I think sara should offer both ranges of trays in her family stores and online , under cutting any rival with a bio degradable paint tray .

  • @robertburns7965
    @robertburns7965 Рік тому +10

    13:41 I thought Debrah started twerkiing but it was her elbow lol

  • @Skelldr
    @Skelldr 24 дні тому

    “I enjoy going with my missus to IKEA to look at the bonkers names that they call things” You mean Swedish? Just because you don’t understand another language doesn’t mean the names are bonkers 🤣😂

  • @OperaJH
    @OperaJH Рік тому +11

    All the entrepreneur ever said throughout was “yeah”
    Tej says, “I can really see your passion.” “ Yeah.”

  • @donny121able
    @donny121able 11 місяців тому +6

    He should either sell or even give a set of the pole lights to tool hire companies, would be cheap advertising and get the product recognised.

  • @garethowen7682
    @garethowen7682 8 місяців тому +2

    Who would of thought most paint trays come through Sara, she's richer than debs 😅

  • @Mopki3
    @Mopki3 4 місяці тому

    Those blocks,aren't those flammable styrofoam deathtraps?
    I'd love that desk provided at work. Not my personal desk though. Perhaps they can be set into decorative panels that you add to your own desk.

  • @Mickenos85
    @Mickenos85 5 місяців тому +2

    Saras better on her own. She can now go to thailand to get the stuff made for herself.

  • @borakisin6317
    @borakisin6317 3 місяці тому

    “You can look at it “ 😂😂😂😂

  • @simonjohnson9055
    @simonjohnson9055 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm surprised the guy from Line of Duty has a construction lighting business.

  • @garethowen7682
    @garethowen7682 8 місяців тому +3

    Peters been on lash no tie, loud not listening 😂

  • @aidankelly840
    @aidankelly840 6 місяців тому +2

    Free advertising

  • @sdn1528
    @sdn1528 10 місяців тому +3

    A polystyrene building you could kick a football threw 😂

  • @Skelldr
    @Skelldr 24 дні тому

    I think they got really blinded with the eco part and that they were investable. But I think they forgot if the product itself actually solves a legitimate problem

  • @gerryg2567
    @gerryg2567 10 місяців тому +1

    God be with the days when ppl did not work 24/7. I remember a time when most ppl had Saturday and Sunday off, time they could spend with their families. Since then society has taken a tumble for the worst, families are more important than money.

  • @jz5748
    @jz5748 Рік тому +5

    Sara would have been the better dragon

  • @chriswilson5199
    @chriswilson5199 Рік тому +5

    Debra the old savage!

  • @chris-c2c4k
    @chris-c2c4k 25 днів тому

    they dont have to take packaging away when deliver cookers etc you can pay a fee to companies yes but they dont just do it

  • @animals_of_overtown
    @animals_of_overtown 4 місяці тому +1

    Deborah's valuable guidance led this company to multiple close-run compulsory striking off orders. One of which is still active. The company is not trading at this time.

  • @OuTSMOKE
    @OuTSMOKE 7 місяців тому +2

    How are these "top 5"? Virtually no one's getting deals....

  • @helenollin4756
    @helenollin4756 Рік тому +13

    I line my paint tray with cling film or foil.

    • @FantasticFish72
      @FantasticFish72 Рік тому +4

      Is a truly awful idea😂

    • @saeedhaq2107
      @saeedhaq2107 9 місяців тому +1

      @@FantasticFish72
      Cling film takes a few min but does work.

    • @valv4008
      @valv4008 9 місяців тому

      Cling wrap is not a eco sustainable product! Not good for our world!🌍

    • @sorrenblitz805
      @sorrenblitz805 5 місяців тому

      I just use spray paint.

    • @squishysquid9505
      @squishysquid9505 5 місяців тому

      Same

  • @Mickenos85
    @Mickenos85 5 місяців тому +1

    If the pakaging does reduce youll have your money back before it does.

  • @Acorns4Bullets
    @Acorns4Bullets 5 місяців тому

    Sara always makes that face like that dude from sopranos; Saul!

  • @Technicallyimright
    @Technicallyimright Рік тому +9

    At those incredible paper trays that are shipped half way around the world…how incredibly good for the environment hahahahhahaha
    What a joke this whole dumb industry is. I sincerely hope people wake up to this bullshit within my lifetime.

  • @gtcazusa
    @gtcazusa 7 місяців тому

    The guys with the wall system.... I can't believe there was zero discussion of building codes. The certification costs to build livable space will be astronomical.

    • @MarxistMedia
      @MarxistMedia Місяць тому

      It's a comparable product to sheds, no building codes required.

    • @gtcazusa
      @gtcazusa Місяць тому

      @MarxistMedia not if it's livable space. None of those sheds are. Have you ever drawn and submitted plans to a municipality? I have

  • @Farside_
    @Farside_ 7 місяців тому

    on the wanger flange- why didnt they ask about if he had a patent? would any one of you lovely ppl have any insights ? please and thank you?

    • @jschimmel7968
      @jschimmel7968 29 днів тому

      They probably just cut it out of the edit. Theres alyways a lot of business details that they go over that gets cut for time/because it's not interesting.

  • @fishwars5979
    @fishwars5979 7 місяців тому

    Never had that problem just put a carrier bag over it,bobs ya uncle.

  • @volundrfrey896
    @volundrfrey896 3 місяці тому

    There idea was building homes out of styrofoam and they weren't laughed out of the studio instantly?

  • @themug406
    @themug406 10 місяців тому +3

    Its wild how many people down here with full confidence spell Deborah wrong

  • @kaliou6645
    @kaliou6645 Рік тому +11

    28:10 Will the Dragons "shed some light" in this entrepreneur's brightening pitch? 💡🔌🔦Something Evan Davies would say😅👨🏻‍🦲

  • @SoSo-li6dn
    @SoSo-li6dn 6 місяців тому

    i think construction boys can fit a light higher up mate

  • @mikafairystar
    @mikafairystar 3 місяці тому

    He shouldn’t be selling desks he should be selling heaters that attach to desks. Offices already have desks & cubicles set up, workers will be the one to buy and attach it to their desk.

  • @julstan
    @julstan Рік тому +9

    How is it carbon neutral tray, but it's made is China 🤔

    • @chrisp.lettuce8900
      @chrisp.lettuce8900 11 місяців тому +3

      They bought carbon offset credit a.k.a its bs

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose 11 місяців тому +4

      Why would it being made in China have anything to do with whether or not it's carbon neutral? Per capita the Chinese emit less CO2 than English and Americans.

    • @xenleah
      @xenleah 7 місяців тому +4

      @@BenjaminGoose Shipping/transportation

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose 3 місяці тому

      @@xenleah Did you listen to their explanation of why it's carbon neutral?

    • @MarxistMedia
      @MarxistMedia Місяць тому

      China is the world leader in renewable energy

  • @razormodz1173
    @razormodz1173 Рік тому +6

    Peter knows how to make money but that's about it..... Not the brightest candle in the box is he lol

  • @fredricful
    @fredricful Рік тому +1

    Si jeg skall forskale en dome kann jeg da bruke denne braketten til forskaling for og støpe buer si jeg vill støpe en bue dome i betong i hagen vill jeg da som forskalingssnekker sveiser selv da produsere mine egne braketter til forskalingsarbeid ?

  • @jessbarnes8521
    @jessbarnes8521 5 місяців тому +2

    I wonder how the wangerflange is doing.

  • @fredricful
    @fredricful Рік тому +1

    Si du skall bygge fengsler runt jorkloden hvor mange nye topp moderne fengsler kann mann da bygge ?

  • @maxnjax7294
    @maxnjax7294 7 місяців тому

    is Steve the you tube guy??

    • @neva.2764
      @neva.2764 6 місяців тому

      Yes. Diary of a CEO.

  • @BenjaminGoose
    @BenjaminGoose Рік тому +2

    Why's that guy selling desks rather than selling something that can be fitted to existing desks? An ultraslim infrared heating panel and a mounting kit, far better margins to be had.

    • @squishysquid9505
      @squishysquid9505 5 місяців тому +1

      I would just put an electric blanket on my lap.

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose 14 днів тому

      @@squishysquid9505 True, or just put some more clothes on like any sensible person.

  • @SNSNAKE
    @SNSNAKE Рік тому

    matey claiming to be Alan Watts sounds nothing like him nor did he go on a rant about dreaming whatever you want to dream and all that stuff the actual Alan says.

  • @jp2650
    @jp2650 Рік тому +1

    16:45 Peter😂

  • @virkill3408
    @virkill3408 Рік тому +4

    I’m so glad jenny is gone, we’ve proper dragons with proper bank accounts

  • @gordonnewton4832
    @gordonnewton4832 2 місяці тому

    No pro decorator would ever use a piece of rubbish like that.

  • @Needdeen99
    @Needdeen99 6 місяців тому

    Deborah’s water looks too grey

  • @tonylawlor8833
    @tonylawlor8833 10 місяців тому

    If I were Peter Jones wife I would be worried, very worried. 😮

  • @htomerif
    @htomerif 3 місяці тому

    Yeah. Deborah isn't exactly a genius. Polystyrene use has continued to do nothing but increase with nothing but projected increases for the future.

  • @icanfly2245
    @icanfly2245 7 місяців тому

    This might be a foolish question but why would you ask people to give you money when you can easily go to a bank and borrow the money? Especially when the amount asked is small, 50 to 100k really is not much what do the business owners gain? Say they get 60 to 80k they will have to pay that back and lose a chunk of their business to people who gave the money which you will give back but you are stuck with yhem gor life unless you buy them out which will be 10 to a 100 times you borrowed from them or foolishly hire a hitman which could land you in prison not that anyone would take that option? If you would I travel and deliver

  • @mcnamaraky
    @mcnamaraky 7 місяців тому

    They make it at around 100 and sell it for 139...that's around a 30% margin, idk what planet they're on, but that's a pretty decent margin on furniture.
    Their retail margin was like 3.5x the manufacturing cost.

  • @PER5Y
    @PER5Y 6 місяців тому

    Top 5 is a bit of a stretch.

  • @Al-Hunt-acrylic-painter
    @Al-Hunt-acrylic-painter 5 місяців тому +1

    Wankerflange

  • @BTB25647
    @BTB25647 Місяць тому

    To prove the Dragons ignorance regarding how they value the products potential based solely on sales figures , at times demeaning the presenter for setting a high valuation due to forecasted potential is quite comical , at times leaving the viewer guessing if what is being presented in a Monty Pythonesque attempt . Once the entrepreneur shows that he has sold a million units of widgets and has netted a substantial profit , they become a group of lusting rapists pointing out faults in the product , business model...sustainability , etc, etc , almost in a coordinated effort to reduce the valuation before readily throwing pittince at the unsuspecting owner for the privilege of having them involved. Well guess what...the Wanger Flanger they all laughed at has indeed been used in large construction projects that otherwise would not have been possible without its unique features. The majority of projects designed by the late great world renowned Zaha Hadid depended on the wide use of the flander....in addition to several airports with irregular roof structures. Dragons what a joke ! ... lizards...is much more appropriate.

  • @tartantam1927
    @tartantam1927 6 місяців тому

    I can’t understand what Steven brings to the show nice lad but I just don’t get it.

  • @thestarshavefallen
    @thestarshavefallen 10 місяців тому +3

    Stitched Sara over in that first one. Debra might be green but she's also greedy too!

  • @techtitanuk5609
    @techtitanuk5609 10 місяців тому +3

    Really think Deborah goes overboard with eco stuff givevit a rest woman. She drives a bloody huge powerful petrol car

  • @SarabjotChopra-j5g
    @SarabjotChopra-j5g Рік тому

    shuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuushhhhhhh

  • @maverick627uk
    @maverick627uk Місяць тому

    Cue the overused FALSE statement "carbon neutral".
    If you have to lie, or are ignorant of what you are saying, you've already lost. Virtue signalling masterclass.

  • @gerryg2567
    @gerryg2567 10 місяців тому +2

    So unfair of Peter to be saber rattling for another Dragon, should be against the rules unless they are sharing the deal. Sara was the obvious choice for me. Hope Sara uses her clouth so they make nothing and their business is bust before the year is out.

    • @aitchgee9637
      @aitchgee9637 9 місяців тому +4

      seems harsh but in reality its best for them. Their entire model is based around an eco friendly product and not so much the diy sector itself. Which is why deborah is more valuable.

  • @MartinMunene-op8rl
    @MartinMunene-op8rl 9 місяців тому

    Alo9

  • @markbaker2629
    @markbaker2629 4 місяці тому

    Very poor presentation for the 2nd product. The product is brilliant and will make millions… but the dragons couldn’t get past the first post with the maximum use potential of the product… Once again; very poor presentation

  • @adammskii
    @adammskii 9 місяців тому +2

    Steven is so irritating. Can’t wait for him to go.

  • @jamesquigley8422
    @jamesquigley8422 4 місяці тому

    Dumbest idea ive ever seen and oh look the company isnt making anywhere near a million huge L

  • @BenjaminGoose
    @BenjaminGoose Рік тому +5

    RIP Peter Jones.

    • @JoeAyres
      @JoeAyres Рік тому +10

      He isn't dead.

    • @irishjay9485
      @irishjay9485 Рік тому +2

      @@JoeAyres /whoosh

    • @BenjaminGoose
      @BenjaminGoose 11 місяців тому

      It's his birthday he's not dead.@@JoeAyres

  • @bourbon2242
    @bourbon2242 Рік тому +1

    phirst

  • @andyearl6784
    @andyearl6784 4 місяці тому

    What is the bald eagle Indian (TS) doing there he invests in nothing waits till everyone else says something and says the same thing, put a Rogan Josh on the other side of the exit door and say goodbye

  • @johnlighton7025
    @johnlighton7025 Рік тому

    Horrifying

  • @sjefhendrickx2257
    @sjefhendrickx2257 8 місяців тому

    Boehoe, my dad died….come on man….thats life

  • @salemkid1979
    @salemkid1979 Рік тому +6

    i put tinfoil in those reusable trays, this product is pointless