AJW vs Destiny DEBATE
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- Опубліковано 7 лис 2023
- My live debate with Destiny from DebateCon 4
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Destiny lost this debate in the first 3 minutes after he said “Trumps foreign policy was an unmitigated disaster.”
They try to attack his strengths.
I think Trumps fans must live in a state of cognitive dissonance. He had good foreign policy? Like when he wanted to go to nuclear war with North Korea over mean tweets?
@@jackeagleeye3453 No new wars. Nobody has had that badge of honor in decades.
@@jackeagleeye3453WOW what a reach… he never said he wanted a nuclear war with Kim, but backing down from dictators is something you left weaklings love to do huh?
@@klodgy Trump tried to start wars but General Miley thank goodness reigned him in. Like when Trump a coup in Venezuela or when he assassinated Solemani and tried to start a war with Iran. Hate it or love it but Biden is far more anti war and got us out of Afghanistan.
Destiny "a president can only do so much for the economy"
Destiny " Trump is responsible for the economy"
It is true to an extent, for example, more people lived paycheck to paycheck under Trump than Biden. But the rich did get a lot of tax breaks under Trump.
Exactly, he has to say that to defend Biden.
@jackeagleeye3453 thats not even true. The economy is worse now. Interest rates are up, housing costs are up, cost of food is up, etc. All while wages remain stagnant
@@LuciferArc1 Yah you left out the part where Biden inherited a gigantic mess from Trump lol. Of course Trump's covid lockdown, and the problems that ensued, are not going to be easy to clean up. That being said, less people live paycheck to paycheck under Biden than did under Trump still.
@@jackeagleeye3453more lived paycheck to paycheck under Trump? My taxes went down. My automotive/motorcycle shop was BOOMING! I mean more work that fir the first time I hired 2 guys in my 13 years being open. My costs were down parts and equipment wise. My fuel costs for picking up and delivering vehicles in my diesel truck were down. My heating costs living in the northern midwest were down. It was good. Covid hits and I lasted until Biden and my governor changed. My taxes, fuel, heat, state and property taxes went up more my FOOD bill skyrocketed. I laid of both employees and tried to keep shop going. Had 4 cars/bikes I had yo put liens against so I could get titles to sell and 3 just sent me the titles so I ended up selling off those gor pennies on the dollar plus things I had saved for like SEMA projects etc all sold at scrap prices which were down. Sold some equipment at deep discount and still ended up filing bankruptcy and closing the business. I got sick under Bidens covid policy and near forced injections so now I have thousands of medical that never disappear in bankruptcy. Now we live paycheck to paycheck and maxed credit cards with my wife and son paying bills.
Sean cracking jokes while Destiny gets progressively more frustrated is peak entertainment.
Yeah you can feel him seethe
Well making outrageously stupid statements in an in person debate and then waving it off with jokes is infuriating.
@@hrothgr52I agree. Destiny isn't making stupid jokes though. He's just plain stupid.
If you're going to lose it over jokes, that's on you 😂😂
@@davematthewes7446 I think there’s a time and a place. In person debate over a serious topic and using jokes to avoid the argument isn’t it.
Sean, you’re a solid opponent. You were 98% facts and logic and used emotion accordingly. I like how you were so patient bringing Destiny back to the main point or providing clarifiers to his obvious attempts at misunderstanding your responses.
By the end of it, Destiny was clearly defeated as he checked out and sat on his phone or making doodles while you clearly articulated Q+A.
The comments to this on Destiny's channel were hilarious, everyone saying Sean was wrong, Sean is an idiot, Sean is a fascist, but not a single person could give a substantial example of him being wrong, ignorant, or extremist in any way.
I haven’t seen substantial arguments in this comment section either.
Typical Destiny fan L.
@@T_Time_ I have yet to see any convincing arguments that Destiny is not a cuck.
Idk, I did see a bunch of people taking Sean's side too myself and some also saying they at least respect him. Personally I found the debate distasteful as both are tasked with defending kinda shitty people, just in different ways (no, I dont have TDS or BDS)
Yeah, I noticed that too with Destiny's chat. Twitch chat is full degenerates
Destiny: how could you legitimize Kim by shaking his hand and infuriating our allies?
Also Destiny: why would you legitimize our allies claim to what they view as their capital?
This is your brain stuck in the "im still rebelling against my conservative parents" phase
Holy crap I just got past that part and was thinking that exact thing, I was surprised Sean didn't bring that up.
Also Destiny: “If the goal is to reduce tension in the (Middle East) then the goal should be the normalization of a relationship with Iran.” 25:22
So with one threat he wants to build a relationship, and with the other threat he wants to continue the 60-year old trend of not communicating.
Actually unironically true! His mom is a die hard Trump fan and they have arguments every time he's over there.
@@WitherSnow lol. Are you serious?
That's exactly my armchair psychologist impression of him. Once you listen to him describe his childhood, it all makes sense.
I was in Afghanistan during the drawdown. Sean is 100% right about contractors. We had 5x more contractors just for security than our entire battalion alone
Do they just hire contractors to keep the number of official lives lost down?
@@OkieDokieSmokie no, they do it because it is cheaper than using US troops. Most of the contractors were Ugandan, or South African. When the US employs foreign nationals they pay them based off of their home country pay rate which for the hundreds of Ugandan guards was about 25 dollars a day. If we had US contractors or US soldiers doing that instead the cost is much much higher. We had US contractors guarding certain areas that got paid about twice as much as I did just for sitting in a chair all day and checking IDs. The contractors were not the ones doing the fighting except on rare occasions.
@@Dodogrees Well to be when the contractors were American, they caused controversy after controversy in their conduct.
Destiny astounds me. If he's never heard of something, all he has to say is "I don't believe that's true" without having to look it up himself for it to not be true in his head.
The issue with Destiny is that he speaks with such convincing confidence, even on things he's completely wrong about lol
Yep. He's always wrong, but never in doubt Lol
Which is pretty much everything
Sean kinda did the same thing with Kentucky
He's all Adderall & Redbull and no philosophy
He likes to play semantic games so he can set up strawman arguments and be dismissive. He talks like an authority on subjects bit then refuses to recognize anyone else's authority. Destiny is not nearly as smart as he thinks he is.
Destiny: *asks a question*
AJW: *responds accordingly, enumerating as much detail as possible to make his claim make sense and have a good backbone in terms of data and logic*
Destiny: "I don't know about that, but that's just wrong."
AJW: *provides a counter-argument in the form of a question*
Destiny: "I can't answer that because that's just not true."
I think AJW broke Destiny's brain or something.
I agree, poor showing from Steven, and I like both these dudes but Sean made him look like a soy-boy beta male cuck, which he generally only is in his personal life.
Note that destiny's 50 cent army feeding him talking points on his phone just wasn't as good.
Not a difficult feat to accomplish.
@@TheRHereticI think that's really pathetic on his part
destiny debates by forcing the other person to make a positive claim. then he goes " SoUrCe!?" and no matter what source, he says he won't accept it, and then claims victory when the other side quits in frustration.
Like most leftist "master debaters", Destiny only has talking points, rhetoric and sanctimony in his arsenal. They don't stand a chance against people like AJW who are so versed in the data that they've actually committed it to memory.
Don't pick on him because he has no clue what he is talking about
Tbf Sean was the one getting fact checked.
@@ComisionedDestiny was just raising his voice.
@@neezduts4297 Was he wrong though? If whoever raises their voice loses, I think when destiny quoted the fake numbers to beat Sean, was the biggest optics win of the debate.
Optics wins arent wins.
Destiny checking his phone to get fed info from his subs and still getting worked over is a particular highlight.
Destiny does this shit in almost every single debate he's in and it drives me nuts that nobody calls him out on it.
@@BruhMoment-fr4zr many people call him out but he comes w that snake response "are u afraid to get fact checked"
@@BruhMoment-fr4zrwhy are u afraid of the fact-check?
Sean made Destiny throw a tantrum like a child by simply stating facts.
He does that often. Not just here.
I’m 39sec in and the look on Sean face is priceless 😂 I can tell this is going to be juicy.
I don't know why people think destiny is some amazing debater, he's smug and throws a bunch of word salad with very little substance to back his positions, and when that doesn't work he raises his voice and acts very animated while pushing the same word salad. In this debate the majority of his arguments culminate to orange man bad.
the TDS is strong in this one
@@dandeflavis7004yea his fans act like he’s never lost, but I’ve seen a few people slam him pretty hard. Mister metokur got him pretty good by showing Steven’s narcissism and inability to stick to a position. Steve wanted to run sorties over Mexico…… totally a big brain and not a manlet who thinks his opinions are somehow way more valid than anyone else.
I like how Sean is sitting there jovially having a conversation and destiny is squirming in his seat seething with rage
It's just how our boy is. Sean has always been laid back, the only people who irritated him have been Vaush and Lance we need more people like him in these debates.
His wife being the town bicycle probably contributes to that rage.
@@dillonmohler1836😂😂😂😂😂
@@dillonmohler1836 🗿
this happens with guys who let their wives get piped reguarly by jamal. destiny down bad
You can see why Destiny has an audience. He is able to sound 100% certain about a topic even if he is wrong like the bit about PMCs in the Middle East. Such confident and defiant ignorance is impressive.
very* impressive
Doesn't explain Hassan, since he says himself he's an idiot.
He has so many topics where he basically says the facts or statistics don't matter because of "feelings" how in any sane world could someone say trumps foreign policy was a disaster? Oh yeah trump derangement syndrome is real
Defiant ignorance is so accurate 😂
Yeah, I was sitting there listening to him like, "how do you not know about this?!!"
Im gonna keep it 💯. Ive followed destiny for about 2 years now and considered him to be well read and informed BUT i wrote down 7 different areas that they disagreed about to research myself afterwards and i was actually surprised that this cool capm and collected Sean guy was actually correct on all 7 areas! He definitely just earned a new subscriber. I will still follow Destiny but this Sean guy is legit! 👌
I think that's Sean's weakest point. He can bring up a lot of truths, but he oftentimes fails to provide verisimilitude to his statements despite them actually being true.
Destiny only knows left wing stories. He doesn't know what is actually happening
@@SelrisitaiHow exactly does he do that? Be more emotionally unstable and shrill?
@@dashthesimple7317 Have more correlating facts, such as dates, names of studies, that kind of thing. I'm sure there are others, I'm not a debater I'll admit.
Yeah...Sean is good. And I think he tries to fair too.
Destiny is a prime example of "I will talk fast so people think I am smart."
It's more his incredulous tone.
@@tcorourke2007 Not really.
I don't think he talks fast. That isn't fair to say. He does interrupt a lot and will stack 50 claims all at once without letting you respond. But even then this is the only time I've really seen him do that.
@@WitherSnow "That isn't fair to say" Yes, it is fair to say because he does talk fast. In all of the interviews and commentaries Destiny is in, he does indeed talk fast. Additionally, he interrupts others to interject his invalid opinions that he claims are facts, and he denies others' opinions as invalid as well. So, do not get defensive because I pointed out the blaring obvious about Destiny.
He forgot to breathe a couple times. I thought he was gonna pass out
Destiny said trump cant be defended, then got slaughtered.
Is AJW's fans mostly bots? Or just really misinformed?
@@jackeagleeye3453 yawn, another weak leftist response that doesn’t correlate to the post.
@@nuh7159 now I see why AJW sticks to videos of black people rioting
@@jackeagleeye3453 Ah yeah well it's hard to find anything else during an election year. And you guys encourage it.
He didn't, Sean just came in and took the pro Trump side even when it didn't work, it's called doing a debate where your position isn't really yours, as in it was clearly assigned but you still have to defend it, you can tell by the way Sean just gave poor 4 words reasons as to why Trump was good then laughed because, cmon, he knows Trump isnt really much better. He ran out of things to say and pretty much went "woo maga" , it's so obvious Sean doesn't even care about Trump lol
It's actually insane how Destiny makes nearly zero eye contact he's too busy in his own world working on his coloring book and scrolling on his phone.
He has to avert eye contact because he's lying. He's scared to look men in the eye
He's scrolling on his phone because he's getting fed information from his Sub Reddit and Discord.
@@bobjohnson1633Probly hard to make eye contact with people your gf would sleep with and then tell you about later 😅
It's cause he's lying and making up positions on the fly. Its impressive in a rainman kind of way, but makes him unwatchable.
ASD
To me, it looks like Sean is screwing around and saying whatever just to see if Destiny can respond with at least a decent rebuttal. It's exactly like trying to let someone beat you at a video game but they still can't do it.
It's incredible watching Destiny try to gaslight AJW on the Afghanistan private contractors by changing it mid-argument to specifically "fighting forces". I had to go back and watch it twice because he can almost convince you he's right
@@GucciGengar.there’s more where that came from 😂 you should see how bad he is when talking about cultural issues and dating.
Almost 😂😂😂
He’s a slippery little shit
Sorry Destiny, but speaking fast doesn't mean you're smart.
BUT ITS ALL HE'S GOT!😂
That's all the leftist "intellectuals" have.
I don't think he is stupid but the speedy talking and over confidence does help him get away with alot. He is also a manipulator. Look no further than his personal life
@@josflorida5346 I think that's a fair assessment
@@Punkertoon speed and a twinky lisp
I knew Sean was smart but hot damn he destroyed Destiny like a machine. He even did it smugly too 😂 complete masterclass on how to deal with these folks
Holy shit Sean’s first 5 minutes was on point. Doing trump justice
Destiny: Name 1 other time something like this happened.
Sean: Here’s an example of a similar scenario.
Destiny: But those aren’t exactly the same!
This is the best comment. That’s all he did. All he does is shift the goal posts.
That's like every argument ever.
Quite astute observation, actually.
Destiny: Trump is literally a criminal
AJW: No not literally. Indictments does not a criminal make
Destiny: Well NO, not LITERALLY but we all know he is a criminal though
AJW: We will see where the indictments go
Destiny: So you think he is innocent
AJW: B!*ch did I stutter
Destiny is like a teenage girl, misusing the word "literally" so much. Fitting, for a destiny is a girls name.
This take is awful and you miss the point
witewawy
@@ManCheat2
@@ManCheat2 Destiny is a hooker name
His campaign has memos saying "fake" and "fraudulent" electors, as well as proof of communication between his campaign and said electors. Please tell me how you can possibly justify this? That's to say nothing of his refusal to hand over and attempt to destroy evidence relating to the classified documents scandal. The man has been in and out of court his whole life and has lost nearly every court case he's been in. What makes you think this will end differently, especially given how many of his lawyers have abandoned him and how many witnesses have flipped on him. Have you not noticed that AJW has never made a video defending Trump from these indictments these days? Ever wonder why that is? I'll tell you why: because he knows that the facts of this case are not in Trump's favor and if accurately reports on them he will be committing career suicide.
Destiny: that handshake was a geopolitical catastrophe and had dire conequences
Also Destiny: Arab nations finally recognizing the sovereignty of Israel isn't important
???
It's because he doesn't actually hold morals or standards. He holds points as important, and then uses any maneuver or tactic to support the point. I doubt he even believes in the point most of the time
So happy to see tweek debating more publicly. Maybe ppl will start realizing that this wasn't an off-day for him, he has always been this consistently arrogant and mid-witted. Never understood his popularity to begin with.
curating a twitch following and targeting low hanging fruit
Don't underestimate Destiny. He's not an idiot. He's just bad faith.
@@plick645 No he is not an idiot, he is yet another midwit that ppl prop up as some sort of genius, and yes, bad faith.
@@plick645 if he wasn't an idiot he wouldn't need to argue in bad faith.
Destiny is just younger version of Noam Chomsky...... the optics look smart, but substance suggests nothing more than pseudo-intellectual drivel
Sean makes a point, Destiny flips out. Sean defends point, Destiny throws tantrum. Destiny makes point, Sean argues, Destiny gaslights. That is what happened here.
his face buried in his hand and scribbling on his note pad is hilarious. Going to his channel to see how people defend him is like watching someone talk to a tree, its just sad to witness and you throw your hands up and have to just walk away
I'm guessing Dominus didn't actually watch the debate because AJW came out looking really bad
@@jackeagleeye3453Actuly he did. You on the other hand have yet to point anything in this debate showing otherwise... Making me question have you watched it?
But libt ards see this as a clear victory
Yes this dude has always been like that. Especially when he is by himself lol
Did people forget that Iran literally blocked inspectors from visiting some facilities, therefore voiding the Iran deal first?
People forget something like this was what led to the Iraq war. The UN sent in inspectors for biological and other weapons of mass distraction because Iraq had a bad habit of “misplacing” them. They kicked the UN out, Bush said “no we need double check your count” and a few weeks later war.
Shhhhhhhh. It's Trump's fault.
That literally not true, Iran only stopped allowing inspections after the US violated the deal
@@donovan4222You appear to have difficulty with the concept of time. I suggest remedial Sesame Street.
@rickyboombotz8420You are correct, and it's kind of irrelevant anyways since the whole deal was built on trust. They could create an underground facility that we would never know about. Hoping to detect it by satellite iran could say anything they want. They definitely were not allowing us open access to 100% of the country
There's no reason to believe Iran wasn't continuing its research.
In fact, after leaving the deal, they had something pop out so quickly. It should be obvious they had been continuing the research.
Destiny seems to have become the master of saying “I haven’t heard anything about that but you’re dead wrong”
I don't know what you're talking about, so you are wrong. Lol
@@bobjohnson1633 and then he seems to add his own conjecture about the issue at hand and that becomes more relevant in his mind than the actual evidence
He really made the argument that no one was going after trump for political reasons, but for legitimate judicial reasons. 😂 tds
@@mcw-lg2dm i have a hard time believing he’s willfully that ignorant
@@theplanefixer8056 He's not, he's dishonest. Far worse than just ignorance.
The idea destiny thinks Biden isn’t directly demanding the DOJ go after trump is insanely nieve
He doesn’t believe that, he’s just trying to stay on point and failing
When told about the Iran negotiator story, Destiny says it's not true despite saying he hadn't heard the story. Classic.
I don’t know anything about that. Now let me tell you everything you need to know about that.
And the notion that moving the US Embassy to Jerusalem cause 1000 Muslim jihadis to murder 1500 Israelis, not had nothing to do with Bidens appeasement policies. Like Destiny, thays ridiculous notion dude.
@@Crs664😂😂😂😂 facts
@@Crs664that about sums it up.
Jesus, Sean. This was the hardest I have ever seen Destiny get owned and it was amazing. He has been massively falling apart ever since he got wrecked by Laila Rose on the Whatever podcast. He doesn't actually stand by any position he argues for because he is willing to abandon anything to win an argument. This was beautiful.
Cope harder
Screech did not actually watch the debate lol.
@@jackeagleeye3453 non of these idiots watched the debate, they read the title then screech in the comments
@@berrybones3112can you give me a tldr on how destiny won this debate
@1776stubborn destiny for yrs argued that gender is a social construct to only walk it back when the trans activists have said everything is. destiny hates the red pill, but has a wife, who watches his kid as he go out to cheat on her, with chicks that want to start their channel from being around him. destiny lives the red pill life. everyone destiny supports ends up backstabbing him and stating they werent real friends. destiny's life's work is undoing past destiny's life's work.
destiny is now arguing that israel shouldnt allow palestinines into their country cuz demographics are destiny. the only take of destiny that has aged well is the rittenhouse one. destiny argues well. but when all his arguments make society worse, then hes the smartest kid on the short bus.
The real winners of this debate were the friends we made along the way ❤❤❤
GET OUT.
I need a microwave and a movie to eat all the popCORN you just delivered.
It’s funny how Sean is just sitting there looking around smiling and pulling all this info out of his big brain while destiny can’t seem to take his eyes off his notes or his phone while twitching around with fear of looking stupid.
Sean never struck me as MAGA as doesn’t discuss national/international politics mostly just crime and justice. But here he is demolishing Destiny in a debate in front of a live audience. Way to go Sean!
I also did not expect him to have a debate defending trump. I've always known he's like Trump. But as you said, he doesn't really talk about that. Kind of stuff and I don't think he's maga.
Like a lot of people with talk shows. Today I think he's more of a libertarian type. I disagree with him on that generally as a conservative, but I guess he would still have the skills and knowledge to do well.
Sean is more of a libertarian than a conservative, he likes Trump more than most other alternatives, but isn't the biggest Trump cheerleader.
That chick, destiny, is insufferable. I had enough of her on timcast.
What debate were you watching?
Also, I think this was a "devils advocate" debate, as Sean probably doesn't actually support Trump, he's a libertarian, and only would prefer Trump over Biden.
@@kahner93 I think he would probably vote for Trump over most other Republicans too though. There aren't a lot of options for libertarians.
Destiny on diplomacy:
Felatio our allies while giving them everything they want.
Scream at our enemies, tell them how evil they are, and refuse to talk to them
Except Israel for some reason.
@@danielorozco5959 well israel is "contested". Aka destiny doesnt like them
Except for Iran. We need to normalize relations there not north Korea even tho it's the same issue
Yeah, I don't see why trying to maintain peaceful relations with your enemy seems like an "insane" thing to do.
What's the point of diplomacy if not to calm tensions and build even small bridges?
@@lilloneshe's leaning more and more to Isreal recently.
Destiny's comments on the border crisis are only a month old and they've already aged like milk lmao
This was thoroughly entertaining
Sean ripped Destiny a new one. On almost every point.
Either Destiny is being paid to tout for Biden… or this is a legit debate where he was given a side at the toss of a coin.
Sean deserves credit for his broad knowledge. He needed facts to shut down Destiny’s debating tactics… and he did so with gusto
Sean ought be higher up the ladder in this space.
This was a masterclass against one of the best 👏
If Destiny thinks the president can’t tell the attorney general to investigate something then he is incredibly naive.
he didn’t say that you’re an idiot. He said the exact opposite. Going through this comment section it’s super obvious no one watched the video lmao
@@DacWacMac lol timestamp!!!
@@DacWacMac These are my favorite comments. I bet you say this to everyone. But if everyone around you is an idiot, you’re probably the idiot.
@@tym548331:00 you’re welcome. Literally says “he could he could” You’re an idiot pt 2
@@Lorenzo_Von_Matterhorn31:00. Youre welcome.
Sean is really, really good at staying on point and patiently dragging his debate opponent to center field and cutting their throats with data sets and facts. He's very methodical.
Destiny's greatest counter offensive in Southern Ukraine
Lol, it's called being smug.
@@ronniekregar3482 Staying calm and on point
@@tym5483 lol, not hard to stay calm and on point when you have the literal personality of a rock.
@@ronniekregar3482 ad hom
I played a drinking game and took a shot every time Destiny said something was "obviously false" or "obviously true" when he was in fact wrong.
I blacked out every night for the past two weeks but at least I finally finished the video.
Did you survive to the end? 😁
It's so funny how Destiny thinks that talking fast is somehow winning an argument.
The fact that Destiny feels the need to argue that Biden is better in everyway shows you that he is not thinking about it honestly.
Biden is en route to be the worst president in history since Carter
It’s the lesser of two evils paradox. It’s been pretty well established that he has TDS, so Heinrich Himmler would be a better leader than Trump as the latter is literally worse than funny mustache Austrian Man.
I don’t think Destiny is a Biden fan. He just hates Trump so much more
I've never seen male that feverishly hates Trump that much! At this level of disdain it's usually a lady because of how highly agreeable women are they tend to be easier to manipulate with propaganda
Wasn’t that the subject of the debate? Biden v Trump?
@@Nettamorphosis yeah what he's trying to say is it's an objective fact that, there are some things that trump was better than Biden on and there's some things that Biden is better than Trump on. For this debate to work well Destiny should be able to admit that (Sean can and did) but destiny is unable to because that's how much he hates Trump. It's the reason that Destiny is actually quite dog shit that's debating he's an intelligent guy but he allows his emotions to get into his arguments and while emotionally arguing is entertaining a debate you have to be as factual as possible which would men being able to admit that Biden fucks up (often in my opinion) instead Destiny was acting as if he thought Biden were omnipotent we all know Steven doesn't actually think that so he's being alil dishonest which is a big deal because you can't be dishonest during a debate.
that's how I felt about the video sorry that was a lot I hope that's not too confusingh
"The UN disagrees with you"
"Oh, what do they know"
Get 'em Sean!!
I loved that quip. What a gross appeal to authority; he wants to outsource his conclusion to the nearest "expert", and without being critical enough to realize many of the experts go with the highest bidder. We wind up with abominations like the original food pyramid and normal people suffer as a whole.
@@cadeux6205idea that the UN is the gold standard for anything is joke
@@cadeux6205 The present food pyramid is not better. At the very top in the "use sparingly" section is "red meat," which has historically (through all of human history) been prized for its nutritional density. Some of the healthiest, most hearty people the Americans ever fought against were the American Indians, and those guys had a diet heavy in bison.
It gets worse. Way at the bottom, in the "stuff your face with this stuff," is freaking CANOLA OIL, which is basically just poison, and "whole grains," which are basically just sugar. (Starch = sugar)
Then they recommend TOFU over ACTUAL MEAT. They do put it on par with fish, and fish is actually very good, so this almost makes me believe it's not ideologically driven, they're just legitimately incorrect and don't know what they're talking about.
Yeah right. UN inspectors were the ones who verified Iraq does not have an active chemical program. While the UN has its shortcomings, the UN inspectors regarding Iran are from the world's top nuclear scientists with the most sophisticated tools and resources. They say Iran was complying; even US and European Intelligence agencies agreed. But, no we are supposed to listen to a couple conservatives and Republicans from the other side of the planet? The joke's on you!
I'm really happy that we finally have a case in January to confront the useless floride being sold to us by our own country.
00:00 Introduction and setting the stage for the debate
00:29 Focus on Foreign Policy as a Presidential Priority
03:17 Impact of the Presidential Role on Domestic and International Affairs
06:01 Discussion on Immigration Policy and Its Effects
08:08 Debating the Ethics and Effectiveness of Political Appointees
10:29 Evaluating Global Perception and Diplomacy under Trump and Biden
13:05 Critique of Trump's Diplomatic Approach and Media Strategy
15:11 Delving into Security Clearances and Espionage Concerns
17:04 Analyzing the U.S.-Israel Relationship and Embassy Move to Jerusalem
19:09 Middle East Diplomacy and the Israel-Palestine Conflict
22:09 Strategies Against Iranian Influence and Nuclear Proliferation
26:07 Evaluating Trump's Foreign Policy Focus and Impact
29:09 The Role of the DOJ and Presidential Authority
33:04 Presidential Influence on DOJ and Legal Norms
38:15 Discussion on the Powers and Limitations of the U.S. President
39:27 Debate on Presidential Authority and Classified Information
40:21 Discussion on Firearm Regulations and Legal Charges
42:01 Analysis of Biden Administration's Regulatory Policies
44:04 Debate on Oil Production and Permit Processes in the U.S.
45:17 Discussion on Economic Policies and Oil Production Strategies
46:51 Comparison of Foreign Policies under Trump and Biden
48:01 Analysis of Border Control and Immigration Policies
49:26 Discussion on Asylum Policies and International Cooperation
51:05 Evaluation of U.S. Trade Agreements and Tariff Policies
56:57 Discussion on U.S. foreign policy and military tactics in the Middle East
01:02:33 Economic policies under Trump vs. Biden and their impacts
01:08:15 Debate over federal and state economic policies and their consequences
01:15:29 Discussing Kentucky's Federal Welfare Spending and its Impact
01:17:09 The Effectiveness of Biden and Trump in Crime Prevention and Reduction
01:18:17 Debate on Political Leaders and Their Impact on Crime and Federal Policies
01:20:51 Foreign Policy and Immigration: Trump vs. Biden
01:24:34 Exploring the Nuances of U.S. Immigration Policy Under Different Administrations
01:27:09 Assessing the Impact of Immigration Policies on State Budgets and Public Opinion
01:30:10 Economic and Social Consequences of Immigration Policies in Different States
01:33:11 Technological Dependencies and Global Manufacturing in the Context of U.S. Policies
01:33:52 Immigration Policy Discussion
01:35:13 Civil Asset Forfeiture Debate
01:37:31 Inflation and Immigration Policy
01:40:59 COVID-19 Crisis Management Comparison
01:46:20 Hypothetical Presidential Scenarios
01:48:53 Urban Population Dynamics
01:52:47 Discussing hypothetical political scenarios involving Trump and Biden
01:54:09 Evaluating potential presidential candidates beyond Trump and Biden
01:56:18 Future political strategies and Trump's 2024 campaign
1:03:00 And down goes Destiny.
That's dedication, dude.
@@FreeThinker0 Nah, you can do it in one click with browser extensions and a ChatGPT/Bard/Claude account, or a local machine equivalent.
As long as the video has subtitles or an auto-generated transcript.
@@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist thanks for the quick rundown, I'd definitely put it to good use.
When debating Destiny you gotta be on the upper hand because if you are passive the guy will spin everything until he gaslights you into thinking you are wrong. Call him out when he starts defining a term for his pure convenience. AJW did a great job here and Destiny got mad like a toddler.
This wasn't a debate, it was a discussion. Also Sean dominated handily, in presentation, style, and facts. Destiny couldn't even make eye contact.
Of course he couldnt. Dude lets random men dig out his wifes guts and you think he has the courage to look someone in the eyes as he gets angry?
1:23:32 Did destiny just say that Americans aren’t concerned about immigration? It’s literally the biggest issue going on in the country right now
Objective reality isn't his strong suit.
Yep. More attempting to avoid the question.
You guys forget he is a liberal, of course mass immigration doesn't bother him. TBH illegal immigrants coming here and there don't bother me either but waves of people is just too much, how are we supposed to welcome all of them.
@@miguelzurita3216 we're supposed to welcome them without question.
Yeah that was really silly on destiny’s part. Very liberal cities are up in arms over immigration because of the resources having to go toward them while citizens are struggling.
As soon as I heard Sean was debating destiny I pretty much saw this one coming... Sean is calm and analytical, destiny thinks with his emotions,man- gina,and blue hair... This is like watching Mike Tyson pistol whip a blind kid ...but in a debate.. I pretty much just came to see how hard Sean destroyed him, this isnt an evenly matched discussion, I already knew what I was going to see... I repeat like watching an old school tyson fight.... You kind of just want to see how hard the beat down is really going to be.... You're the man sean!!!
Mike Tyson had Cus D'Amato to teach him discipline.
Something Destiny has obviously never been taught.
@@LordMalice6d9 I 100% agree, they don't make them like cuss d' mato no more....
@kelseymcgarrah2858 This world desperately needed more men like Cus D'Amato and even my own Kung fu teacher as well.
My Kung fu instructor is a genius.
@@LordMalice6d9 I'm Italian big dog... You have no idea cuss d'aemoto is a fucking legend in my culture.... He created/trained two of The greatest prize fighters of all time.... If you ever watch interviews with Mike Tyson about cuss, it'll give you a whole different perspective,I suggest you check them out brother...
@@LordMalice6d9 fuck bro I couldn't agree with you more.... That's exactly what the world needs,actual men like cus D'Amato running things... I appreciate your perspective brother... Cuss d' amato could basically turn any average boy into a fucking world champion.... He did it twice bro.... Even Mike Tyson knows he just lucked the fuck out and happened to fit the physical build cuss was looking for at the time... Mike Tyson was born strong.... but cus D'Amato MADE him a fucking world champion... That's not an easy thing to do... I got a lot of respect for Mike Tyson and the way he speaks about cus.... nothing but respect and reverence, D'Amato was a once in a lifetime talent....
Destiny did this on Tim Pool, he pretends he does not know about certain subjects, so he does not have to concede that is he wrong.
"so what you're saying is" every Democrat says this before they try to twist or spin what you say
Destiny even said "You don't believe that yourself" or just trying to use his use of "Supplementary", Just constantly interrupting Sean on that one word... I think the tactic was to try and stop Seans train of thought and get him to slip up.
It's petty and I hate it.
To be fair, that’s not an uncommon statement from either side of a debate. It’s a means of trying to clarify, focus, and understand the position of the other side.
I don’t take it as someone trying to necessarily “twist or spin what you say” during a debate because you have the ability to respond.
Now if it’s a person doing so when being interviewed about what someone else has said, then yes, they are absolutely attempting to “twist or spin” what has been said.
And then proceeds to completely misconstrue what they said.
@@JohnDoe-dr9ff I Agree, let them say what they have to say first,
if you have a strong enough grasp on the subject,
you should be able to give a straight answer,
even better if you can explain eloquently if and how they're using weasel words.
@JohnDoe-dr9ff To be fair, the OP didn’t say the phrase was invalid in and of itself. The OP pointed out that it’s typically used when setting up a strawman.
This debate is a perfect example of how intellectual dishonesty can buy time.
Because of this, I think the country is screwed and doomed to fall. This will not be the first time in history when a population forced its own demise.
I love AJW, but he lost here. He straight up had wrong information several times
@@TipsyFGClike what ?
@@JGSuttonJrthat's every nation that falls
Very good point
Sean was so calm and cool while Destiny was struggling through mental gymnastics. I love Sean’s smirk when he knows he has Destiny wrapped around his finger.
You should see destiny's debate with Mr Metokur.
Destiny: Trump bad leader cuz he had photo op Quorian Dicktator!
Sean: Yeah, after he threatened to rain down hellfire on them and basically forced the Koreas to come together for a meeting. President Moon himself crossed the DMZ to meet with Il with Trump.
Destiny: Nuh-uh, Trump bad cuz photo op with DICKTATOR!!
Seriously, that's the summation of most of this farce of a debate.
Stop your delusional lies.
😂😂😂
@@wandaleyba-gonzalez4537 You can always watch the debate and decide for yourself
Destiny got crushed in this one. actually surprised how much he failed.
Surprised? He’s always been an idiot. He just talks fast with narcissistic conviction in every rtarded thing that comes out of his mouth.
Not surprised. Common Destiny L
He speaks quickly and uses plenty of Gish Gallop tactics.
His entire opening statement is a prime example of this bad faith argument tactic.
He is quite biased and it's obvious to see where.
@@amorgan310 Lol yes whenever he does it he kind of sounds like Sylvester the cat from Loony Tunes
@@JaybLive95 Suffering sucker Tague
Sean was making clear and effective points while Destiny spent his efforts fighting shadows and straw-men of his own making.
Destiny: We need to normalize relations with Iran, Syria and Lebanon
Destiny: Trump trying to normalize relations with North Korea is a meaningless photo op
Great point! 👍
lol
Destiny's claim that not a single gun owner would agree that the atf would look back at videos from years ago to see if you lied on a form 4472 is outrageous. Most, if not all gun owners I know would absolutely agree and probably believe that the ATF would do this. I know this because I personally sold most of these people their guns and listened to their complaints and worries while filling out said forms at the gun store I worked at for three years.
All gun owners that know what the ATFs true purpose is know they do that to throw normal gun owners in jail
Am I the only one who noticed that 100% of Sean's debates so far involve him defending a simple objective reality against a left wing mental gymnast? One more of these and we can officially establish a pattern
that is debating a leftist in general. They devolve to spamming a bunch of useless half-truths while denying everything around them.
Good observation, I agree
You are not the only one.
Based Noticerrrr
AJW took an L here and had to switch to corny jokes any time destiny called him out
I love the joy on Seans face when he knows he just demolished another of Destiny's stupid left wing talking points
1:25:40 - and just like that, whatever budding respect I had for Destiny got stomped out in an instant.
You cannot see the mayors of "sanctuary cities" openly speak to their audiences in wide panic "I HAVE NO PLAN FOR THESE MIGRANTS WE'RE SCREWED" and honestly believe immigration is not an issue. 100% NIMBYist talking point here, for shame D.
The whole thing was funny "they're sending in bus loads of migrants like that's sane!"... like that isn't the exact problem at the border or in fact the problem with illegal immagration in general lol
I usually like Destiny in debates but damn. Every single thing was “not Biden’s fault. He was set up to fail by Trump”
Destiny: Trump shouldn’t be legitimizing North Korea for photo ops.
Destiny, a few minutes later: why wouldn’t Trump want to open up relations with Iran and bring the Palestinians into the discussion?
The inconsistency happens because he doesn’t even believe that about NK, it was pure moral posturing, you cant take pics with the bad guy or you’re evil and doing bad things. NK is evil but it’s better to try to help the slaves they call citizens by improving our relationship with them and getting them to change even if it’s a marginal shift, then trying to ignore Kim and treating him like the evil dictator he is to virtue signal that you won’t talk to dictators. As if Biden meeting with Saudi Royals is no big deal. Destiny doesn’t believe half the shit he says, or if he does he’s a lot dumber than we think. I think he’s more grifter than idiot personally. I honestly think he may work for the CIA or Mossad, he’s admitted he gets message from Mossad with talking points but pretends he ignores it and just accepts their “donations” dude literally admitted that like it was no big deal. Absolutely crazy how culty his fanbase is.
You can not make this sh#t up!
His whole point was he gave them a photo op WITH NO CONCESSIONS. We did get Iran to make concessions and end their nuclear weapons. If North Korea has given up their weapons Destiny would have praised Trump, but they didnt concede anything and got a free photo op.
@@dftknight🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
@@dftknightHe said they had to talk, that is a concession.
When Destiny said Trump was worse when it came to foreign policy, one minute it, ended it for me.
He sold. Forfeited. Lost. In the first minute.
Yeah, that was crazy. The Abraham accords alone proved him wrong.
But his points actually made were wrong and he threw out dozens of quick points in the opening.
But one was funny. He was apparently supposed to kick Russia out of Crimea... so he was supposed to fix something done under Obama?
It's one thing to prevent another government from doing something through through actions like sanctions or threats. But it's a whole other thing to try reversing an action. That's already been done once one should have been settled.
And when did that become trump's problem anyways? That's a regional issue. Trump can only have peace talks and there was already peace in Crimea by then.
You just threw out a ridiculous amount of things. And I forget their word for it. But others are praised for trying to overwhelm the opponent. Should I have a harder time by playing defensive.
Yep under trump the Middle East was calming down and is real was establishing ties with Muslim nations. And under Biden we have a two wars that have no end in site and threaten to drag the US into them.
Oooh, three comments UA-cam has decided I don't get to see :)
@@Andyisgodcky Expletives, slurs, racial language, or insults, etc. The Destiny fans are learning about UA-cam censorship today haha! Like if you can even see this?
You made it that far 😂
Debating is a game for destiny. He doesn't really care about the topics. He just joins the lobby, mains a team and debates to win subjects but not win because he stands for anything, I think he gets literal dopamine like if he hit a high score in a game.
Watching people with Trump Derangement Syndrome melting down never gets old. Thanks Sean!
Criticizing trump is not TDS, you guys have the TDS-Syndrome
Lol, that Trump derangement syndrome moniker is getting old. Who even says that anymore? Lol. You people need to get over yourselves.
Destiny losing the debate and his voice going so high, cats in Siberia can hear him.
Only Trump Derangement Syndrome can get you to believe things that are obviously not true
I can only assume the people that think AJW won did not bother actually watching the debate.
All Destiny does is add subjective details to his opponent’s arguments. He rephrases it in an overly exaggerated way, then pretends it’s outrageous. He’s relying on feelings rather than objective facts. He’s really good camouflaging his strawman arguments.
It's not all he does, but it's a lot of what he does--I picked up on that too. Sean was having none of it.
100% no one strawmans their opponent more than him. It’s so pathetic, if you’re so sure you’re right why the need to lie?
And he does it CONSTANTLY, I can’t even watch him because of it and I try because he’s better than most leftists in terms of knowledge but in terms of debate tactics he acts like a spoiled child.
Destiny is the king of the fallacy of the absurd
yes, its very rude. My wife and her family are very intelligent and patient. After having such good company and fair debaters to tend with idk if i could stand this guy. its insulting to us that we still say "biden did ..." anything. Personally i have seen our sitting "prez" in person and he is completely a senior in care - he makes no decisions.
Kamala slept her way through some governors and she is placid enough that his handlers can do whatever they want with the office. Nobody has mentioned the lost soldiers due to treachery... that should be the first thing we acknowledge for those veterans before starting any election debate.
Combat veteran here. If those mechanics were anything like army mechanics then they had weapons and were a part of the fighting force.
So glad to see someone expose Destiny as the sophist he always has been. There should be a fallacy counter on Destiny.
I know its subtle but i believe when Destiny says "I know you dont believe that", hes basically calling you a grifter
That's the TDS at play. He's been gaslighted and manipulated by headlines and establishment talking points so much that he's having a hard time seeing the perspective of the other side
Destiny fans were super triggered by Sean’s trolling and I loved it… they really really clung to that Kentucky thing, and none of them realized that HHS is an umbrella budget
Yeah and Destiny had to combine all govt spending to match the military portion to make his argument work.
You did a terrific job here, Sean!
You have gotten much better at debating!
Optically, Destiny is flailing at 1.75x speed. Sean looks like he’s trying out some new material at the comedy club 😂
And every joke is hitting! 😂
Bruhhhhh....cheers to this post!! 😅😅😅
Destiny dropped the ball on North Korea
Donald Trump gave North Korea an opportunity to become rich if they give up their nukes, they said no, so Trump gave no concessions, but left on good terms
And they hadn't taken a damn test shot for the rest of his term but here they are shooting em off again all of a sudden. Almost as if he was scared of Trump. Weird! 😂
I don't know a lot about this particular situation, but why a competing power in the world would give away their own power?
That would only give America more power over North Korea which is what other powerful countries want to avoid, let alone a dictator (you know how they are).
Even looking at growing tensions with Russia not wanting America to set up more bases around them to get more control over them, which is in some level related to the Ukraine situation.
@BR1.618 North Korea has rare earth mineral deposits that they can't afford to exploit. If they go to war with America, China will invade from the North and snap up that territory. If they work with the US, they could get infrastructure and expertise to exploit those resources.
It is kinda like his version of the Iran deal.
I don't see why the left hates it so much.
Warmongers and people who don't like that style on the other hand would.
@@OnTheThirdDay What about the Iran deal?
This went so poorly for Destiny that Sean started clowning on him in the first 15 minutes and Destiny had no idea how to deal with it. 😂
Wow, this debate was amazing.. Id like to thank both of you guys for taking the time to sit down in peace to do this... I wasnt at all surprised to see Sean overpower Destiny when it comes to the overall knowledge of the topics being discussed.. However, I do commend Destiny for his bravery to even have the balls to debate a mind like Sean"s... I kinda feel bad for Destiny though.. because he seems like such a smart guy, but if he can seriously participate in a debate such as this and still not see the truth, and then he almost seems to double down on his Trump derangement syndrome then im afraid there is no hope for the guy.. Man!... you know Destiny is losing when he starts talking a hundred miles a minute and begins to get louder and louder and then starts talking over his opponent and interrupting.. He then just starts denying that anything is possible all while directing all his attention to his phone... Anyways.. that was amazing Sean thank you so much.. and you should totally marry me.. lol... 😍
He's taken.
Destiny is objectively stupid and dishonest.
Never, EVER, feel bad for destiny.. He doesn't deserve it.. He's a lying manipulative little turd who thinks he's always right and thinks everyone who disagrees with him is evil incarnate..
My complaint about destiny is the same. He's a smart guy. It's an absolute shame he refuses to do good works.
@@plick645 a strong intellect with just a little information is a dangerous thing. I do like that they both came to the table - and he can be passionate - we have to get off of our chest all of the most passionate topics - but the important stuff is way down at the bottom & i hope we eventually get there. The media keeps throwing fresh raked leaves on them.
Steven is a smart guy, he just sought a market and provided goods in it.
I don't even think he believes most of the things he's saying himself.
....aaaaaaaaaaand we open with Destiny on a TDS rant. Oh Gawd... this is gonna be a long show 😿
Tbf it was a debate on trump vs Biden
@@jarth2358 So that means you have to open with a false lunatic rant on Trump?
His TDS isn't nearly as severe as most lefties though, it definitely clouds his judgement at times, but not to the extent that he tries to bend the fabric of space and time to find the proper equation for orange man bad.
@michaelgleason4791 "lunatic" he was stating his reasons why he thought trump was a bad president whether he is right or wrong is what Sean is there to disprove
@@jarth2358 The problem is when you are vomiting out nonsense, there is nothing to be disproved.
I love how emotional destiny is while Sean calmly destroys him. Please do debates more often
If you take a drink every time Destiny says "I'm pretty sure", then I'm pretty sure you'd die of alcohol poisoning. I don't have anything to back that up, though.
TDS at it's finest. Destiny was unhinged at moments. All emotions.😂😂😂😂😂
Its weird seeing destiny lose a debate. He was outmatched in every way possible here.
Destiny is usually wrong. If you ever think he won a debate, it's because you believed complete bullshit, too.
He loses almost every debate he's in, thanks to his own anxiety.
destiny is such a great debater. it could be anything, large scale, small scale, personal, impersonal, important, unimportant, completely useless, etc. he's able to turn every debate into an emotionally driven hurt feelings type of hissy fit.
Lololol
He's a leftist, their entire world view isn't based off morality, it delusional, based only on how things look or makes them feel, they believe ppl are inherently good and its just economics or environment that makes ppl bad, all ppls , countries , ideologies and religions are equal, which is absurd, equality is a lie , the conservative view of the world is based off of Christian morality, we accept that humans are inherently flawed, all capable of evil, we are all sinners, and that hati isnt the same as the US, afghani/Palestinian culture is not as good as American culture , and isn't compatible with western society , for example Sweden, UK, France, Germany, Italy ,Greece , not going so well, letting in millions of uneducated, poor, forigners that dont work, and will never assimilate is destructive, its suicidal, it's warfare against the native population, but the left thinks it's fine , dont criticise and point out the crimes being commited , the destruction of culture, the economy , because it makes them feel bad , and they dont want to admit they are wrong.
He acted the same way on the whatever podcast
The one thing Hasan is right about is saying that destiny is a debate pervert
not a great debater
Destiny-“Why should it be New Yorks problem?”. Because New York but their foot in their mouth when they wanted to tout their sanctuary state status as a gocha to the southern border
I find it fascinating that Destiny does not consider mechanics to be part of the fighting force.
Even worse was logistics... like they're the main reason people are equipped, fed, and have useful intelligence on the opponent.
I just find it amazing that people watch destiny debate for the establishment candidate and call other people "boot lickers"
Well they are the resistance😂😂😂
Lmfao THIS^
Seans demeanor is exactly what it looks like when someones arguing on solid ground. Well done 👍
Lmfao ground so solid you can't even see it
@@berrybones3112 screech like destiny
@@berrybones3112 you are REEEEEEEally upset by this, so #Triggered! You should go service Destiny while hes watching another man boink his wife. Its really your only legitimate use at this point...
@@berrybones3112that made no sense whatsoever….better luck next time
Your confidence was a huge benefit to you, Sean. Keep up the good arguments and your study.
The funny and sad thing about this whole interaction is how calm and collected one side is and how triggered the other is straight from the gate.
Why does Destiny want to normalise relations with Iran but not with North Korea?
Leftists join with other collective ideologies until one gains power. Then they kill each other.
I wondered the same exact thing.
I also was wondering why
Somewhere the Rock is raising an eyebrow,
If you think about it, they're all the same. Though I would argue life in Iran is better than North Korea... but that's not saying much. Life on the Moon is better than North Korea.
The fact that Destiny does not even understand how useless the Afghan army is, is astounding.
They are comically undisciplined, we are talking about a "country" that isn't even a real country.
You see them try jumping jacks?
Ikr? It's like watching a bunch of toddlers at baby gym. 😂😂😂
If they even show up
I helped escort engineers and command personnel around to the Afghan "training centers" for a year for NTM-A. I never really saw any real training going on. Rarely when I did see an Afghan unit, they would be in a gaggle of a formation with some Afghan officer attempting to make them march around the post. It is important to note that we were not even allowed to interact with Afghan personnel on these posts because "Green on Blue" violence was such a problem.
It was NEVER going to work out.
Country don't you mean historic battle ground. Seems like every country in that area uses them as warzone instead of invading each other 😂
Cripes. "I haven't heard that story, therefore it's not true."
Is it that hard to say "I'd have to look into that, but if true..."
Spot On ✅
Really enjoyable to hear Sean debate he doesn't make it or keep it so dry his humor and personality comes off a lot and it makes it more interesting to watch and listen
I came in with an open mind to hear both sides but im firmly in Sean's seat. Destiny relied on emotion, fallscies, and strawman arguments.
(>'.')^ Hi-5
Destiny is a sad case of deciding how you fell about a person, then bending over backwards to justify criminally charging them.
"Thats rediculous" and "thats a breach or norms" is the summation of destinys arguments against how the executive branch is designed to work
That was actually the perfect confirmation that this is a witch hunt. I wish Sean had pinned him down on that.
“They dont actually wear sombreros bro you just did a “r@cism” 😂😂😂😂
@23:46 You Savage! That could not have been timed better! It's like I'm watching the Office. 😂😂😂
as a former infantry marine who helped train iraqi police and iraqi special forces i can tell you that 19 out of 20 of those guys were incapable of doing anything useful. its like teaching a toddler who is incapable of retaining information and learning, you can tell them something a million times and have them demonstrate it and repeat it back to you in the moment but if you ask them to do it 5 minutes later they completely forgot what they learned.
Was it a language barrier, them not giving a crap, or some other issue like impaired thinking due to alcohol/drugs/accident-at-birth/whatever?
@@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist They jus don't care and they don't care to learn or understand. It is just a chore to them. I also was assigned to train Iraqi's on basic IT literacy and it was beyond frustrating. They just didn't bother to even pay attention for more than a few minutes. They all failed and this was basis stuff. I have instructed 80 year old's and tweens with more willingness to learn.
@@Nic00016 Ah, so it was an incentive problem?
It sounds like there were no real consequences for 'success' or 'failure' at their tasks that meant anything to them.
Assuming success and failure were even measured or kept track of.
Kind of fascinating that such huge gov operations wouldn't account for that…
Maybe there was an incentive problem at the top as well, for the leadership of both the occupying forces and their allies😁
@@DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist47-60% of Iraqi marriages are inbreeding marriages and it is also cultural. Greece has published more books in the last 40 years than most of the middle east combined. Mass inbreeding and a culture that discourages academic pursuits leads to issues with intelligence. Especially at such a massive scale.
I was a Soldier in the US Army, I was Field Artillery but we also taught Afghan troops very basic rifleman knowledge and I still wouldn't trust them for a variety of reasons. The lack of weapons discipline was probably the top one, I honestly thought I was gonna die by their own stupidity because they didn't understand the finer point of, don't point at people with your rifle.
Its wild how easy AJW handles Destiny