Love the video!!! And I guess that, since hiatus affect the popularity of a manga, Ruri Dragon will be one of the biggests "What Ifs" of Jump. In September 2022, Shueisha Books site listed Ruri Dragon with the "Jump+" label. Today, they came back to Shonen Jump, but who knows... Wish for the best for Masaoki, even that it means no more Ruri. And I haven't read about the synopsis from last year winner from GFC and DAMN, I LOVE IT! Hope for serialization soon! Out of the curse, of course hahaha
Thank you so much, Im glad you like the video! I love Ruri so much so it was so sad to hear that Masaoki fell ill, I'd love to see it back one day if they manage to feel well enough to do it! Koi no Youbi no Sezaki-san sounds really fun an interesting, I was so excited to talk about after reading the Synopsis so I hope it becomes a series!
It’s cool to see other people just as deeply invested as I am in Jump and its history. I actually did all of the same research you did for this video about a year ago.😁 You found a couple things I hadn’t; the basketball manga in 2007 and the original name of the 2005 baseball one-shot. On the other hand, I delved deeper into those “skipped” years. In 2006, three one-shots were released one after another with SKET Dance being the series that was serialized. In 2013, four one-shots were released in a row with Hinomaru Sumo coming out on top. In 2019, no one-shots were released in a row like that, but we did get a number of one-shots that became full series: the one-shots for Our Blood Oath, Bone Collection, and Undead Unluck. We also had ones from the authors of Candy Flurry and Tokyo Demon Bride Story; though, those one-shots did not get serialized. I also figured out if the order in which the one-shots are released matters at all. Released 1st- Won 7 times 2nd- 4 times 3rd- 3 times 4th- 1 time 5th- 3 times 6th/7th- 0 times All pretty interesting stuff. I’m excited to see what sort of series comes out of this one-shot. It wasn’t my pick of the bunch, but I can see why it won. I would’ve picked that music series that had really impactful panels or the vampire one that had a style similar to Yu-Gi-Oh. Overall, it was a great video. I’m excited to see you grow more and more with every new release. Well-done.😊
I'm glad you enjoyed the video!! I'm aware of the initiative in 2006 with the oneshots but wanted to keep the video shorter even though Sket Dance is a pretty important one. Oneshots in general are super interesting in Jump and usually theres something going on with them every year, I'd love to talk about them more but maybe save them for other videos so I don't have one massive one haha! The order is really interesting since in Bakuman they mention that they place the manga in the order they think will be most successful, I guess the outlier here being 5th place has one quite a few times! This batch of oneshots seemed pretty promising, Id love to check how many are translated, throughout the history of the GFC because I know some are. Thank you for your comment!
@@TrentinArt Good to know that you did know about the 2006 thing. :) A video on one-shots sounds awesome! If you can find some interesting theory and analysis from all of it, even if just over a half-decade or so, I’d watch in a heartbeat. I’m always excited to hear new theories on how we think the magazine works. Like, do they push more action series in a given year? More gag series? What kind of artists are they pushing out? How does a shift in Editor-in-Chief affect what one-shots they publish? Does it affect it at all? So many cool routes to go down and explore.😁 Bakuman really is the best, isn’t it?😊 I’d be pretty interested in seeing that too- at least with the more interesting-looking ones.
@@pattongilbert Bakuman really needs a reread on my end i think it'll give a lot of ideas potentially! Theorizing over Jump is a ton of fun and I'd love to do more in the future for sure!
As much as these unknown mangakas have some great potential for their work to be published in WSJ, I'm kinda shocked how many of their one-shots have never been officially published in English on the Shonen Jump App. So they could have gotten more attention from American readers and manga fans.
Yeah its something I'd love to personally read, oneshots in general because theyre more digestible. I thought with Fujimotos oneshots gaining traction they might do more, maybe they will in the future hopefully!
Great video! I hope at some point Jump lets overseas fans vote or at the very least just read the entrants. It's interesting to see that most of the winners do better on a later series. Man I hope Ruri dragon comes back soon...
Thank you! I'd love it if the entrants were readable and even voteable officially in the west, that would be amazing! I really hope Ruri can return someday too!
Fabricant is over and the curse lives on. It's final tally of 36 chapters surprised me because that's the same amount of chapters as Doron Dororon and that felt like an ETERNITY to me who didn't like Doron.
Yeahh, it wasn't looking good for Fabricant for a while, but it ended up being one of the longer GFC series regardless. Doron Dororon really felt like it went on longer than 36 chapters, so I agree it felt like an eternity for me too haha
Have you ever considered comparing the history of manga in Japan to the history of comics in America? I've always found it interesting how the same medium of entertainment developed in completely different ways in two nations that have influenced each other.
That could be very interesting! Unfortunately as much as I love comics overall I don't nearly have the same level of knowledge on them as I do with Jump. I'd love to talk about comics and how manga has influenced western creators though!
A curious difference is how they're published. Comics were originally anthologies with like 7 stories per issue, similar to magazines like Shonen Jump, however they kept diluting the stories down to just one, and stories would get monthly issues to themselves. Although there have been attempts to revive the anthology format like with Action Comics.
It's too bad about Ruridragon. Among the ones you listed, it was my favorite and the one I stuck with. Everything else I either didn't read or dropped after a few chapters, not counting Black Clover, which wasn't technically under the curse even if the author wrote a work that was. I really wanted to see where it was going and I can only hope the author recovers.
If you are looking for topics how about looking at all the manga that came back after a long hiatus. Beet the vandal buster and world trigger come to mind but there are others. To say nothing of series like kinnikuman which refuses to stay dead or in any particular magazine. You gotta let people have hope.
That could be a fun topic someday, i'm a big fan of World Trigger and theres plenty of other manga that have been or are still on long hiatuses, it's also funny you bring up Kinnikuman since i'm currently reading it!
@@TrentinArt now just where did you start your muscle journey? I had M.U.S.C.L.E. Toys as a kid and watched ultimate muscle then worked backwards. Honestly the completion of the fan subs still blows mind mind. If memory serves there are the two main series, the alternative nisei from champion, the tag arc, kinnikuman lady, and the current revival.
@@funkmastaC Yeah theres a ton of different series, spinoffs etc. My aim is just to read the original Shonen Jump run for now, i'm about 120 chapters in after the second Choujin Olympics so I think it starts to become more about wrestling after this point.
No Our Blood Oath mention? Ouch! I think that series had so much potential and i think i'm the only one that saw that potential.. I'd like to see the author take another shot with Vampires...Later
Pretty sure It's not a Gold Future cup series or even candidate, so that's why it ist here. I love Vampires and I try to be nice with every Jump manga but OBO is sadly really lacking, 😔
@TrentinArt Fair enough and I respect your taste but I still believe it had potential and needed more time. It is what it is, I guess..We need the next Vampire series and I was hoping it would be it...What did it lack in your opinion?
Hmmm off the top of my head, it had a very rocky beginning, pacing problems and after it started to get going the elements it did introduce were pretty dry and bare bones, everything could have been much better imo. Vampires are such a great topic to write around but it didnt take advantage of that at all I think. Will cover it one day in a video tho!
@TrentinArt I see 👀 a story like Our Blood needs time to develop, but unfortunately, in the manga industry, mangakas aren't given much time. You have to come out gun blazing .. I believe had Kakazu-sensei had been given enough time, and readers ls were patient a bit more. Our blood oath could have been the next big vampire story.. It had vampire royalty, a human and Vampire.. aiming for peace, and that cute animal shin gave to ko. It's unfortunate but I still hope we'll get the next big Vampire story..It's about time we got it
Apologies for commenting on an old vid, but any idea on why it's taking so long for sezaki-san's author to come out with a new work? I'm thinking they might publish a new work once MamaYuuyuu ends, but there was also a case of Ruridragon's author so I don't know.
I'd definitely hope not! But its not too crazy for newbies to take some time after winning awards to practice their skills, then they can come out with something even better
I think the "true curse" is that the winner is allways a rookie missguided by seniors that either flood fresh stories with overused tropes or straight up give deliberate bad sugestions because of envy.
@@TrentinArt I was just surprised that people were upset that that one manga changed it’s premise and everyone dropped it but YuGiOh did the same thing and everyone loved it.
OHHH right!! I think in Yu-gi-ohs case it was because people really really liked the first appearance of "Duel Monsters" (or Magic and Monsters? It might have been called originally), that it pivoted to feature it more! Plus after battle city there were a few non duel monsters focused arcs.
Is there a difference between the tezuka award and the golden future cup? Because all the mangakas of the next wave batch are all tezuka winners, so i'm curious on how are the two awards different from each other?
Yep they're just two different awards. Iirc gfc is featured a lot more in the magazine with it featuring the oneshots back to back for several weeks. Tezuka award isn't as publicised within Jump? Or at least I don't think it's shown off as much as the gfc entries which are voted for by readers. The Tezuka award usually has entrants be looked at by a big panel of judges, including big mangaka like Oda. Essentially though both exist to cultivate new talent!
I wasn't aware there was a standard! XD It mostly depends on how you're sound system is set up because most youtubers are way too loud for me, that said I'm constantly tweaking my audio, just don't be so entitled about it please
@@TrentinArt just trying to give a bit of advice, there's a reason why as a viewer you can generally watch popular youtubers and rarely ever have to adjust your volume. I could've worded it better but if you wanna see me as entitled then alright man lmao
@@TrentinArt yeah but you only live once so live life how you live it fam. I just wanna live my life without war bug people in power gonna screw us middle class citizens up from taxes to bankruptcy over war bs. Also, I’m concerning buying and importing Ruri Dragon manga for an animated fan plot just in case something happens and I save some money so I’m going to hire an animator to help me with this stuff
How dare you introduce a really interesting manga synopsis that ISN'T AVAILABLE in English... I want Koi no Youbi no Sezaki-san to be a thing SO BAD... please even just the one shot is fine
And yet we got ANOTHER great video on Shonen Jump, and it's Manga. Keep on the good work, trentin.
Thank you i'm glad you like this one since I think the GFC is especially interesting!
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but Agreed
Love the video!!!
And I guess that, since hiatus affect the popularity of a manga, Ruri Dragon will be one of the biggests "What Ifs" of Jump.
In September 2022, Shueisha Books site listed Ruri Dragon with the "Jump+" label. Today, they came back to Shonen Jump, but who knows...
Wish for the best for Masaoki, even that it means no more Ruri.
And I haven't read about the synopsis from last year winner from GFC and DAMN, I LOVE IT!
Hope for serialization soon! Out of the curse, of course hahaha
Thank you so much, Im glad you like the video! I love Ruri so much so it was so sad to hear that Masaoki fell ill, I'd love to see it back one day if they manage to feel well enough to do it!
Koi no Youbi no Sezaki-san sounds really fun an interesting, I was so excited to talk about after reading the Synopsis so I hope it becomes a series!
It’s cool to see other people just as deeply invested as I am in Jump and its history. I actually did all of the same research you did for this video about a year ago.😁 You found a couple things I hadn’t; the basketball manga in 2007 and the original name of the 2005 baseball one-shot.
On the other hand, I delved deeper into those “skipped” years. In 2006, three one-shots were released one after another with SKET Dance being the series that was serialized. In 2013, four one-shots were released in a row with Hinomaru Sumo coming out on top. In 2019, no one-shots were released in a row like that, but we did get a number of one-shots that became full series: the one-shots for Our Blood Oath, Bone Collection, and Undead Unluck. We also had ones from the authors of Candy Flurry and Tokyo Demon Bride Story; though, those one-shots did not get serialized.
I also figured out if the order in which the one-shots are released matters at all.
Released 1st- Won 7 times
2nd- 4 times
3rd- 3 times
4th- 1 time
5th- 3 times
6th/7th- 0 times
All pretty interesting stuff. I’m excited to see what sort of series comes out of this one-shot. It wasn’t my pick of the bunch, but I can see why it won. I would’ve picked that music series that had really impactful panels or the vampire one that had a style similar to Yu-Gi-Oh.
Overall, it was a great video. I’m excited to see you grow more and more with every new release. Well-done.😊
I'm glad you enjoyed the video!!
I'm aware of the initiative in 2006 with the oneshots but wanted to keep the video shorter even though Sket Dance is a pretty important one. Oneshots in general are super interesting in Jump and usually theres something going on with them every year, I'd love to talk about them more but maybe save them for other videos so I don't have one massive one haha!
The order is really interesting since in Bakuman they mention that they place the manga in the order they think will be most successful, I guess the outlier here being 5th place has one quite a few times!
This batch of oneshots seemed pretty promising, Id love to check how many are translated, throughout the history of the GFC because I know some are. Thank you for your comment!
@@TrentinArt Good to know that you did know about the 2006 thing. :)
A video on one-shots sounds awesome! If you can find some interesting theory and analysis from all of it, even if just over a half-decade or so, I’d watch in a heartbeat. I’m always excited to hear new theories on how we think the magazine works. Like, do they push more action series in a given year? More gag series? What kind of artists are they pushing out? How does a shift in Editor-in-Chief affect what one-shots they publish? Does it affect it at all? So many cool routes to go down and explore.😁
Bakuman really is the best, isn’t it?😊
I’d be pretty interested in seeing that too- at least with the more interesting-looking ones.
@@pattongilbert Bakuman really needs a reread on my end i think it'll give a lot of ideas potentially! Theorizing over Jump is a ton of fun and I'd love to do more in the future for sure!
These replies are nothing to be but 2 Wholesome Dorks talking about what they know
Please keep going, it’s so Sweet
As much as these unknown mangakas have some great potential for their work to be published in WSJ, I'm kinda shocked how many of their one-shots have never been officially published in English on the Shonen Jump App. So they could have gotten more attention from American readers and manga fans.
Yeah its something I'd love to personally read, oneshots in general because theyre more digestible. I thought with Fujimotos oneshots gaining traction they might do more, maybe they will in the future hopefully!
Great video! I hope at some point Jump lets overseas fans vote or at the very least just read the entrants. It's interesting to see that most of the winners do better on a later series. Man I hope Ruri dragon comes back soon...
Thank you! I'd love it if the entrants were readable and even voteable officially in the west, that would be amazing! I really hope Ruri can return someday too!
tbh given success of certain series overseas, would be nice just to have a small separate branch specifically for the western market.
OMG U PUT THE MANGA IN THE VIDEO IN THE DESCRIPTION U ARE ACTUALLY THE GOAT
Yep someone asked before and I try to do it on my videos when I can, I'd like to go back and do it for older ones too
Well Ruri Dragon is back by now at least, but only time will tell if the curse is truly broken.
Yuuup, need the Last 2 winners to have a crack at Jump but they're still waiting
Fabricant is over and the curse lives on. It's final tally of 36 chapters surprised me because that's the same amount of chapters as Doron Dororon and that felt like an ETERNITY to me who didn't like Doron.
Yeahh, it wasn't looking good for Fabricant for a while, but it ended up being one of the longer GFC series regardless. Doron Dororon really felt like it went on longer than 36 chapters, so I agree it felt like an eternity for me too haha
Really amazing video. Definitely want to watch more.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! Hopefully more to come soon!
How can you just casually show that ZZ footage at the end? That shit still hits me like a truck.
I thought it fit the message, I guess! Kamille getting better to parallel Ruri coming back (which it did ☺️)
Have you ever considered comparing the history of manga in Japan to the history of comics in America? I've always found it interesting how the same medium of entertainment developed in completely different ways in two nations that have influenced each other.
That could be very interesting! Unfortunately as much as I love comics overall I don't nearly have the same level of knowledge on them as I do with Jump. I'd love to talk about comics and how manga has influenced western creators though!
A curious difference is how they're published. Comics were originally anthologies with like 7 stories per issue, similar to magazines like Shonen Jump, however they kept diluting the stories down to just one, and stories would get monthly issues to themselves. Although there have been attempts to revive the anthology format like with Action Comics.
It's too bad about Ruridragon. Among the ones you listed, it was my favorite and the one I stuck with. Everything else I either didn't read or dropped after a few chapters, not counting Black Clover, which wasn't technically under the curse even if the author wrote a work that was.
I really wanted to see where it was going and I can only hope the author recovers.
I really hope Shindou can come back and work on it in a healthy way too!
RuriDragon is back now BTW... just a nice little update from the future
Yup have been reading, glad it's back!
If you are looking for topics how about looking at all the manga that came back after a long hiatus. Beet the vandal buster and world trigger come to mind but there are others. To say nothing of series like kinnikuman which refuses to stay dead or in any particular magazine. You gotta let people have hope.
That could be a fun topic someday, i'm a big fan of World Trigger and theres plenty of other manga that have been or are still on long hiatuses, it's also funny you bring up Kinnikuman since i'm currently reading it!
@@TrentinArt now just where did you start your muscle journey? I had M.U.S.C.L.E. Toys as a kid and watched ultimate muscle then worked backwards. Honestly the completion of the fan subs still blows mind mind.
If memory serves there are the two main series, the alternative nisei from champion, the tag arc, kinnikuman lady, and the current revival.
@@funkmastaC Yeah theres a ton of different series, spinoffs etc. My aim is just to read the original Shonen Jump run for now, i'm about 120 chapters in after the second Choujin Olympics so I think it starts to become more about wrestling after this point.
No Our Blood Oath mention? Ouch! I think that series had so much potential and i think i'm the only one that saw that potential.. I'd like to see the author take another shot with Vampires...Later
Pretty sure It's not a Gold Future cup series or even candidate, so that's why it ist here.
I love Vampires and I try to be nice with every Jump manga but OBO is sadly really lacking, 😔
@TrentinArt Fair enough and I respect your taste but I still believe it had potential and needed more time. It is what it is, I guess..We need the next Vampire series and I was hoping it would be it...What did it lack in your opinion?
Hmmm off the top of my head, it had a very rocky beginning, pacing problems and after it started to get going the elements it did introduce were pretty dry and bare bones, everything could have been much better imo. Vampires are such a great topic to write around but it didnt take advantage of that at all I think. Will cover it one day in a video tho!
@TrentinArt I see 👀 a story like Our Blood needs time to develop, but unfortunately, in the manga industry, mangakas aren't given much time. You have to come out gun blazing .. I believe had Kakazu-sensei had been given enough time, and readers ls were patient a bit more. Our blood oath could have been the next big vampire story.. It had vampire royalty, a human and Vampire.. aiming for peace, and that cute animal shin gave to ko. It's unfortunate but I still hope we'll get the next big Vampire story..It's about time we got it
Can you list all the manga you mentioned in the description or a pinned comment? It’ll make it easier to look them up.
great video btw. 🙏
Ohh thats a really good Idea, which I should do for my manga videos! Check the description in a bit and hopefully i'll have added them all, thank you!
I heard Persona 2 music and I hit subscribe
I'd love to dig into some more P2 music for videos, but Maya's theme came on while editing so I had to use it haha
Even tho ruri dragon is back now, it will be moving to jump+ due to the author's health issues
Yup! Im aware
Apologies for commenting on an old vid, but any idea on why it's taking so long for sezaki-san's author to come out with a new work?
I'm thinking they might publish a new work once MamaYuuyuu ends, but there was also a case of Ruridragon's author so I don't know.
No idea! Sometimes mangaka take years to exercise that right like Ruri's author. They might be fine tuning a story or practicing art!
@@TrentinArt Thanks for the reply! I understand, I just hope they don’t have some kind of health problems though :(
I'd definitely hope not! But its not too crazy for newbies to take some time after winning awards to practice their skills, then they can come out with something even better
I think the "true curse" is that the winner is allways a rookie missguided by seniors that either flood fresh stories with overused tropes or straight up give deliberate bad sugestions because of envy.
Very interesting theory I'm not sure mangaka are that malicious though.
@@TrentinArtmangaka are just human after all, anyone can be malicious
@akiradkcn usually people aren't though, artists especially are a pretty supportive type of people from my experience, you just sound jaded
@@TrentinArt well act age writer got his meds held hostage by his editors so idk what worse they can did.
@TextboxGp what kind of wacky conspiracy is this! If this is an attempt to explain what that guy did that's really messed up.
I hope we gonna get X-files episode on cursed manga.
Scully: It's a curse Maulder!
Mulder: No, its' aliens Scully!
Hahaha, well i might make a video on the X Files manga, might be the closest we get to that!
That’s so crazy considering Yu-Gi-Oh changed its original premise
Sorry what's this in reference to since I don't remember mentioning Yugioh here?
@@TrentinArt I was just surprised that people were upset that that one manga changed it’s premise and everyone dropped it but YuGiOh did the same thing and everyone loved it.
OHHH right!! I think in Yu-gi-ohs case it was because people really really liked the first appearance of "Duel Monsters" (or Magic and Monsters? It might have been called originally), that it pivoted to feature it more! Plus after battle city there were a few non duel monsters focused arcs.
Good news Ruri Dragon came back. Bad news is the Golden Future Cup curse killed off Toiryama…….. 😢
Kind of in poor taste ngl
@@TrentinArt yeah I never thought another dragon mangaka would leave this planet 😞
Is there a difference between the tezuka award and the golden future cup? Because all the mangakas of the next wave batch are all tezuka winners, so i'm curious on how are the two awards different from each other?
Yep they're just two different awards. Iirc gfc is featured a lot more in the magazine with it featuring the oneshots back to back for several weeks. Tezuka award isn't as publicised within Jump? Or at least I don't think it's shown off as much as the gfc entries which are voted for by readers.
The Tezuka award usually has entrants be looked at by a big panel of judges, including big mangaka like Oda. Essentially though both exist to cultivate new talent!
I wonder how they get canceled even though people liked it. 🧐
Lot's of different reasons! but in some cases it's pretty baffling!
@@TrentinArt interesting, you should really tackle that subject
A video on axes and the reasons why manga end in Jump could be fun! I can see myself making a video on that specifically one day!
I'm kind of curious if it all is just sales? @@TrentinArt
increase the volume in your videos, make it the same standard other youtubers tend to use, makes it more viewer friendly
I wasn't aware there was a standard! XD
It mostly depends on how you're sound system is set up because most youtubers are way too loud for me, that said I'm constantly tweaking my audio, just don't be so entitled about it please
@@TrentinArt just trying to give a bit of advice, there's a reason why as a viewer you can generally watch popular youtubers and rarely ever have to adjust your volume. I could've worded it better but if you wanna see me as entitled then alright man lmao
Well this is mostly a passion project from my end and I'm not a "popular youtuber" XD
Thank you for the feedback though
Ruri Dragon got screwed with WW3 and alien disclosure in the horizon. It’s gonna be hard for this series to comeback in a post disclosure era
HUH
@@TrentinArt yeah the world is already going nuts as is. I just wanna read a good manga about pirates without a ww3 happening in my lifetime oof
@NitwitsWorld I mean sure same but weird thing to bring up in the comments imo XD
@@TrentinArt yeah but you only live once so live life how you live it fam. I just wanna live my life without war bug people in power gonna screw us middle class citizens up from taxes to bankruptcy over war bs. Also, I’m concerning buying and importing Ruri Dragon manga for an animated fan plot just in case something happens and I save some money so I’m going to hire an animator to help me with this stuff
How dare you introduce a really interesting manga synopsis that ISN'T AVAILABLE in English... I want Koi no Youbi no Sezaki-san to be a thing SO BAD... please even just the one shot is fine
I've actually reas the oneshot and have prepare a script for a small video on it! It should be typeset and come out soon ☺️
@@TrentinArt where did you read it? My albeit brief Google search didn't yield ant results
@@BurnStar21 I know the person who'se translating/typesetting it 😎It should be out for the public soon!
Bakumon was kinda lame
Wtf was that racist moment in this video. Why bro?
Really sorry if you take offence but I just think Ghost stories is super funny, dont intend to be racist in anyway!
@@TrentinArt oh okay I didn't know it was an anime I was just taken by surprise, but I do like your videos. Keep up the good work.
Thank you! really sorry if your offputted in any way!