Science Behind Using Fire To Mount Car Tires
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- Опубліковано 19 вер 2018
- Videos of people lighting their tires on fire using matches and lighter fluid have quickly gone viral. Incredibly enough, this spectacle isn't just for show. It can prove practical in an emergency when your tires have become flat and no longer form a seal with your wheels. This video delves into the science behind setting tire beads that have become unseated, and mounting a tire on a wheel using a controlled explosion.
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I grew up on a farm with heavy equipment (tractors, trailers, implements, combines, semis, etc.). We did this all the time with starter fluid. Some of these people doing it in this vid are dangerously overkilling it with the flammable aerosol.
True that but in our case we replace the air inside with nitrogen before the tractor goes in the fields / trucks go out to haul
I’ve tried this before and it didn’t work
@@jacepayne7671
You need to make sure the flammable liquid goes inside the tire.
@@LelakiKerdus it didn’t work for me because I didn’t have air going into the tire. After I lit it up the bead would fall off
correct
This brings a whole new meaning to Hot Wheels.
Hot wheels 2
Or maybe it's because after a lot of driving the rubber gets hot because of friction?
Lmao
Man. Whans the last time you had a hot wheels car in your hand
Well hello there Leon
I used this method for numerous years being a truck and trailer mechanic. I passed it on to my sons breaking down and mounting tires in my driveway. At first they thought I was crazy until they saw the results. Best trick i was ever taught and passed on
"the gas ignites and rapidly expands, also known as an explosion"
-mind ignited and rapidly expanded
Lmao
You really have a point here. How comes, that we make 5 Minute videos/animations for the simplest things nowadays?
Mind blowing
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You always remove the needle from the valve! Two reasons: After the explosion, as the air inside rapidly cools, vacuum forms. This allows the air to come back in so the tire does not slip off the bead again due to the vacuum. Second: In case you use a bit too much fluid and there is a huge pressure inside the tire, the air will have a way to escape rather than to explode the tire itself. So it makes it safer.. Still, rather try a few times with too little fuel than once with too much..
Explosion depents amount of oxygen in tire. Too much fluid or gas not increase pressure.
@@jarikinnunen1718 Agreed. The most powerful explosion will occur when the air fuel mix is at the correct stoichiometric balance. For example, if you were using hydrogen, you would want 2 molecules of H2 for every single O2. 2 H2 + 1 O2 = 2 H2O. No one would use hydrogen, but the equation is the easiest. So putting in too much fuel or not enough fuel and having your ratio wrong tends to result in a slow burn instead of a fast explosion, theoretically less dangerous from an explosion standpoint, but more dangerous from a fire standpoint since it could burn for some time possibly setting something else on fire.
I did it with the Schrader valve off and I have no regrets. I saw that one video where dude leaves it in and keeps air on it, and it sucked in the tire as much as mine swelled.
I didn't even use air, just spray and light with the valve wide open.
Viral? this method is as old as.... tires. It only works as an emergency method if you also have a ready source of pressurized air since the tire will likely pop back off its bead from the vacuum that develops. Also, they were using starter fluid not lighter fluid. Lighter fluid works, but is more critical to the air/fuel mix.
BeeP Official I know what viral is, just didn't realize people hadn't known about this. But I've owned 4x4s my whole life, so it may not be something car people are familiar with.
Known and old things go viral all the time. Every couple of months, there's a 80s or 90s clip or video that suddenly becomes popular if placed in the right context. This is no different.
Just something trendy to get views
Nicholas Scott v.
Stfu
Had a tech do that, but he used way too much fluid. It caught the inside of the tire on fire just long enough to blow out after about 2 hours of driving. I had his boss look at the tire, which was MELTED inside. I got a new tire out of the deal and they don't do that any more.
That's the whole problem with using this.
No fire will burn inside a inflated tire! Fire needs oxygen!
@@benreed4918 the air has oxygen. Then when you start adding air you are adding oxygen. It can keep burning
@@Bryan-Hensley true!
@@benreed4918 I've learned this the hard way. I used to have flats on our riding mower when I was young and I would do this to re seat the tire. The rim was wider than the tire so it was almost impossible to reseat without taking to a shop or this. But I burned one through using gas, which I shouldn't have used, but I was about 7 then.
I always knew fire solved everything
Can fire solve world hunger?
@@kakikencing8390
Welp. world hunger means people need food, right? Food is cooked, in order to cook you need... fire
Fire = Thanos, there's your answer
great
What about nuclear fire?
1:10 / 3:35 show the most accurate demonstrations.
if you're going to do this - you must realize that almost as quickly as the tire is set on the bead - you must begin pressurizing it or the rapid cooling will vacuum the tire right back off the bead of the wheel.
what if I just take the valve core out, will that work?
As another poster stated, it is Not "impossible" to inflate the tire without it being seated. Just get the beads against the inside shoulder and apply enough air volume. They remove the valve from the tire stem to get maximum pressure to overcome the temporary leakage. Pop! Pop! and it's on. Go by a tire shop and you hear that sound all day long.
I work at a tire shop and I just put air in to seat it.. You can seat most beads with 10psi.
@@D.AverageJoe for real the hardest part is getting the tire on the rim setting the bead is easy
Thank you for sharing this information!! Always fun to learn something you didn't know about♡♡
One of the oldest and best ways to do it if you can't get it to air up. We did this at are tire shop when I was younger. Alvarado Texas, it was Davidson tire company. Good video, brought back memories ✌
"A tyre will be impossible to inflate until both beads are set..."
What a load of bollocks.
The inflation process is what is used to seat most beads.
yes you are right but the conditions must be exact at a high level of are so that you could inflated using it that's why we Mount are tires with special machines but if for any reason your bead gets knocked out while driving and you try to inflate it will be impossible because the bead is not properly seated
Shhh, dont tell the experts in the comments common sense
@@bryantzerrato8255 We mount the tyre with special machines but we still inflate them with a standard airline. Very few passenger tyre beads need any extra help seating.
If your tyre happened to come unseated while on the car and suffered no damage you could happily seat it with a standard airline without removing it from the car.
Brem as a young guy that pretty new that meaning about 9 months I can fully back you up on that because of where I worked we had an agreement that the youngest person worked the tire machine and Indeed the machine itself is specialized to the process of removing and mounting tires but after the tire has been loosely fitter on the rim it doesn’t matter really matter what you use to set it fully as long as it’s some sort of compressor even truck tires don’t much more that’s why most tire machines are made so that if you press a bit harder on the pedal for the air it will send air out at each of the claws to give it a bit more umf when seating it I’ve mounted 100 of tires by now even as big as front wheel of a tractor and as long as you know how to force the air in you won’t need fire for any part of the process if you are in an equipped workshop and there is probably a good reason why it’s not the standard thing to do taking that even without fire there are hazards when inflating a non seated tire if you don’t keep track of where your fingers are and trust me I’ve seen it ones where a dude got his fingers stuck between the tire and rim and that shit both looked and sounded like it hurt like hell
Bryant Zerrato i thought i was having a stroke while reading this
Perfectly matching for Tubeless tyres!!!
I always use starting fluid and I'm so old that I remember when you could buy regular ether in the aerosol cans. I don't think lighter fluid would be volatile enough to create the explosion needed to seat the beads
I forgot about this, now I just rewatched this videos and have a 💡 for my car’s tire. It has been flat and It fell out of the rim after I drove it onto my driveway while still flat. Been wondering how to put it back in. Thanks for the video.
Two problems with this. One; fire, as well as the explosion, can damage and/or skew a Tire Pressure Sensor. Two; the fire changes the chemical composition of the bead sealer.
I've only done this once or twice when in a timecrunch or the rims are the OLD split rim style. On a dump truck once, and it was a hell of a lot faster because you leave the wheel bolted to the axle, and just dismount old tire, mount new tire, use this trick to seat bead and inflate. Pretty nifty. Also used starting fluid not lighter fluid.
Why on earth would you do it on an old split rim? They were tube type.
Know a guy who tried kerosene. Melted too much of the tire. And the TPMS.
I've seen it done on trucks with tubeless tyres but never on splits. How's that even possible?
Not all split rim are tube tires... The dump truck i mentioned had split rim and the tire did not have a tube.
@@gagewesterhouse9558 TPMS is probably why you would (or just shouldn't) do this on a modern vehicle tire rim, as most have TPMS (I think in the US, though, TPMS became a requirement on cars at least starting in 2010, so the cost to replace a TPMS transmitter probably costs more or as much as just paying someone to mount it or taking 5-10 minutes and doing this "by hand"). Getting the tire on the rim is probably the hardest part.
One of the most useful tricks to ever learn for trail riding
U explained it very well ❤.. Good work dude
This method was first popularized by top Gear on their polar special back in 2007. It is one of the many tricks the Icelandic mechanics used to keep their car going till the north pole.
Lighter fluid is never used it does not burn fast enough most of the time its brake clean or carb cleaner if the guy with the little stubby can was using a cintas Airfreshner
We used to use gasoline then threw a match at it
I was always afraid my father would get his fingers caught when the tire exploded
Some guys use thier torches , same idea just different fuel source, myself I'm faint hearted and was sure glad when power blasters first came upon the scene .
I've always used starting fluid.
@@daltonbrink9924 that worked good
I see this in my UA-cam suggestions. Thank you for posting.
Thanks for the demonstration, you have made me understand why it worked : )
Look at this NEW VIRAL TIRE TREND (literally decades old)
oldest trick in the book
tik tok in a nutshell
You have to explain this to adults??! Mind Blown!
Well thank you! I was wondering this exact thing not to long ago!
More often than not it doesn’t work. But when it does it’s a thing of beauty. And when you are in the position hat you need it, it may be worth trying if you can do it safely.
This is the method used by newbies. Real men only use air pressure from them nozzle to get them in place. And it is used in emergency situations where you don't have access to pressurized air.
Any other car guy just see this in their recommended 😂
lol i was lookin at stuff about putting 305s on and boom this popped up lol giving me ideas 🤔
I like that I saw the video, now I can mount tires myself 😂😁
Shit, I just exploded a tire on a rim yesterday.
I just saw this in a gif on Facebook I had to learn more! This is fascinating
Thank you for making this video!
My dad did this in the late 70s to his Mercury Zephyr at the office, blew the door off his office building
Oof sorry to hear that but I'm laughing so hard 😂
Do you know if they used a lot of fluid
I've done this dozens of times. The joys of 22x14's and 40x15.50s. The easiest and safest way is to set the tire standing up vertically on it's own and then spray the beads with brake cleaner and pull back maybe 5 feet and use a lighter in front of the brake cleaner spray nozzle itself to act as a small flame thrower and shoot it towards the bead. Works almost every time the first try, and the tire does jump at you nor does the flame.
THANKS !!
Thank you for the explanation.
I just learned something new today, awesome.
You normally only do this for big tires like semi and construction tires.
@Kenny Argueta Ventura you literally proved his point.... Normally, as in yeah, the one farmer and half a dozen racers that also do it are part of the "unnormal" few that do it.
Great idea. Bigger tires, bigger rims, thicker steel. And when things go bad, much more likely to be lethal. Go for it, Bubba.
This is not the standard this is old school you'll think it's cool till that time blows up and splits your hand in half iv seen it in person so keep in mind there is a reason we don't do this anymore
Well you can always expand the liquid trail wick and move out far away or hide behind something before it expands. Also how would this kind of a controlled explosion blow your hands off? Doesn't seem likely at all.
Didn't say blow your hand off I said split your hand if it blows. anyways if the side wall is weak it can pop, split ,blow open and if Your not using the long air nozzle when you try to fill it for bead setting that rubber and wires will tear you hand up
person I know was putting air in the tire of his bike something went wrong and the inner tube slipped past the bead and blew up next to his ear he was def for a couple minutes he got lucky his hearing wasnt worse off than what it was
Sahil Pethe how can you hide when you have to get the air to in the tire before the bead falls of the rim
No fire is ever controlled in an open space
Excellent explanation and visual.
Works like a charm every time !
Sometimes it's the ONLY way to get the tires on the rims properly...
Some rim/tire combinations, often used in Motorsport or tuning scene, won't allow your mechanic a normal procedure
I've been back working on truck tires for 4 years. Haven't run into a single tire I couldn't air up yet. Used ether(starting fluid) regularly way back in the 80's. I'd get fired for it now lol.
This is so beautiful, priceless, beatific, heartening, humbling, encouraging, precious, and inspiring! My body's riotously convulsing and I'm crying from everlasting joy as I type this at 47 WPM!
Thanks and God bless you for your helpful how to...video.
Wow, we learn new things every days
It’s not a safe practice but there’s times when it’s the only way to get it done I’ve done it before it works best if you hook up a air chuck first I use starting fluid and not a whole lot
could you please provide an explanation why it isnt safe.
@@jevonmcpherson8054 yes please
Jevon Mcpherson the tire could come apart and do great bodily harm is the worst thing that can go wrong
People have been doing this for such a long time
Not a car guy. Never knew this until now. Im 29.
It was even done with the early tubeless motorcycle tyres.
Indrid Cold
It was done two weeks after the wheel was invented.
@LeRedFlame Yes, People have been doing this for such a long time......and now we have the guys at Tech Insider (thank you) who explains it for us on UA-cam. How come you didn't do this video....be the guy to explain it to everyone else. Then you could be important and a big shot. But no...it didn't happen. Another missed opportunity in your life. Maybe you can learn from this.
Should I do this with nice tires?
I always wondered how this worked thanks
I’m going to try this tomorrow using Starter Fluid. How much fluid do I need in the wheel? Full 360 or just in one area?
Wonderful invention. This idea is *spreading on the Internet like fire.*
Imagine what kind of ideas will come in the future.
We might see inventions and ideas that are like magic from our current perspective.
Lol this method isn't new. It's been around for at least 100 years
It's a very old method and I would not recommend people try this who have 0 experience in the field.
Who figured this out? It like, "Hey my tire is flat so I'm just going to set it on fire and see what happens.........Oh!"
The originator pieced together what he/she knew about science. That's how inventions work.
That third rim (3 spoke) is a Primax, had a set of those from '99. Man I wish I still had em, put them on a 98 Regal GS I sold, miss the car too.
I was shown this truck back 48 years ago by the mechanic at my Fathers trucking company! Yes back as a teen I learned the company business from the very bottom! In the garage as a grease monkey! I was shown how to get a truck tire back in the wheel and seat the bead, using either based starting fluid. Just spray a small amount and quickly throw a match inside the tire. The gas ignites and expands so quickly he tire just pops right back with a sealed bead! You should have seen the faces on an excavation crew I worked with as a dump truck driver the day a fellow driver had a low tire get its bead popped off! When I sprayed the starter fluid and came out with a pack of matches and fixed it the look in their faces was priceless!!!
The ether-and-match trick is a common Third World technique for mounting tires. At tire shops they use a "Cheater" charged with high pressure - a lot safer, but still hard on the EAR DRUMS!
That’s lit...
literally...
Heheehe *LIT* erally
*Literarily
Yeet
OmegaTryce r/whoosh dumbass
I just finally tried this on a stubborn bead, 16-inch rim, and it worked perfectly the 2nd time. I used to little starter spray the first time, and too much the 2nd, but it beaded both sides with no issue and even swelled the tire despite having the Schrader valve off which I removed so it could vent better.
Thing is, one doesn't need any air nozzle, or need to spray inside the tire, just a quick spray at the bead all around and overspray the sidewalk a bit so you can light it.
If Schrader valve removed, it will swell when it seats as if it has like 60 PSI on there suddenly, and the open valve will expell all that gas since you want fresh air for the filling instead of exhaust fumes from the combustion.
I've seen one person keep the Schrader valve in, and they applied air at the same time, and in turn, when it seated, it created a huge suction. I don't think doing it that way is the best idea, and the air nozzle feeding is not needed if you remove the Schrader valve.
My friend solved his grandmother's problem with fire.
Another great use of fire!!!
So is this now a standard practice for auto repair centers?
do you think this will damage the tire in any way?
Naw this is a old school method
Mark Gaming YT2 fire burns the rubber, lowering it's condition. That's why most of these prople go balls to the wall to put the fire out, so it doesn't lower the condition of the tire.
no
In the instagram stories era, this counts as "hardcore" marketing. Most people don't know that this is old-school
This is too amazing. What if the tyre explode?!
I see you everywhere! 😃
Then you got an exploded Tyre😂
Then the mind explodes 🤯
It's not a strong enough explosion, in fact, if you don't start pumping the tyre up with air straight away afterwards, the air inside cools and contracts which sucks the beads off the rim and you must start all over again.
most illegal thing I will see in this year, HOW DO YOU ONLY HAVE TWENTY LIKES MY GUY LMAO
Thank you for explaining
Very well-made video!
I can't wait for my next flat tire
Lol
Lol
Your wish would quickly come through if I was your neighbor
Just because your tire is flat doesn't mean your beads are off more than likely your beads are not off so this method won't help you
I hope these people realize this has been going on for a long time. Probably since easily the 40s or 50s where i come from
This was well explained.
It is a controlled explosion,
A sweet science.
Thank you always was curious
Oldest trick in the book
Not as old as tires though, for a long time tubeless didn't existed
Who taught you the trick. Once upon a time....you didn't know it. Someone had to teach it to you. You were the student. A blank slate. How did you feel when you learned how to do this.....because the person who showed you how.....knew more than you. They were smarter than you. Did you feel inadequate? You should.
What do you call this Old Trick Sir? Thanks
This is oldschool now days they use blast air tanks
Stingyman method!
Air blasters to me are worth thier weight in gold.
Great when you've got one, unfortunately I've never had access to one- but only ever needed to do this trick once on a Bobcat tyre. Quick and easy though.
This is so fun to do I’ve worked at Victor’s tires and big o tires where I done this haha
Great video! Thanks!
Could have been a short video
Slow mo
A Y could of been a long comment
3:28 explain it correctly my guy. You need the valve off so it can expel extra pressure and needs to be screwed in after the seal, and filled to the psi needed. This is half ass
The best is to use PB penetrating spray, worked like a charm to reem tires 👍🏾
I use to fix tires and I'd use starting fluid and a lighter to seal a stubborn bead. Fun but you need to keep your fingers in the clear if you don't as it seals you could loose a finger tip.
Personally, I dont like doing tricks like this unless I understand the principal behind it, and more importantly, what can go wrong.
And isnt it more of a deflagration, since the gas expansion is subsonic?
If the tire burn away rapidly, why would anyone use this trick ? They only set in on fire for a short time and Tires is thick, like real thick
Not enough heat is transferred to the tire material in the short time to let it ignite.
On the other hand if the tire was shredded up in fine bits, and then heated, it would possibly light on fire.
Personally, id be concerned if there were solvents in the fluid that might degrade the materials over time. Not every ignitable fluid would be good for the job, but in a pinch, beggars cant be choosers.
"This is also known as an explosion"
We did this twice with petrol whilst on safari in very remote areas. Although we carry 2 spares, shit sometimes happens and our pumps don't have enough pressure. Either you do this or sit there for week(s) (hope your food and water last).
Another guy and I had to do this to all four tires on the side of the highway at midnight on my MR2 Turbo last year.
Didn’t take as long as you think. I had one tire on my 10” wide rears that didn’t want to cooperate.
🔵 It's important to realize that if you use this method whatever amount of flammable solvent that is left trapped in the tire will accelerate the deterioration of the tire internally a good deal faster than atmospheric air, and can certainly compromise the Integrity of the tire over a MUCH shorter time.
Lightning mcqueen shouldve used this in the first movie
sawega binarung **fingers have left the game**
*The most beautiful tire video ever.*
Learned something cool today ^-^
Starting fluid aka ether not lighter fluid
*_"And, hopefully your first destination isn't a hospital"_*
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I saw this particular deal on "ice Road Truckers" and was wondering if it would be on YT . and it is ...
it’s a nice trick that’s been around awhile, but not a necessity for your standard car tire. You can work the beads close enough that they sit against the ridges and an air tank will seat them for you. Larger, more rigid tires are a diff story.
I use brake cleaner.
works just fine!
song name at end?
This please. Anyone?
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Pls, we need it
In case someone out there wondering if this will work for popping out dents. It will only work if your windows are rolled up.
If you take this seriously you deserve what will follow.
I've always done this. I never had a tire machine. Most handy for my mud trucks. Big tires with wide rims are hard to seat.
But are the tires balanced with this method?
I don't know. Just drive m.
Done this a thousand times only lost my eye brows once lol
How
MeMefied Cheese the flame probably hit his eye brows and burned them of
Method is as old as tires itself. And the video is wrong. The explosion doesn't cause the tire to expand. Rather, the combustion around the bead creates a vacuum pulling the bead over the wheel. Notice how they spray the sidewall of the tire and not in the middle of the barrel. You also dont have to stand by with air. As long as the tire doesn't have a load on it, it'll hold that shape.
That said, this is a dangerous means for installing tires. Yes the fire will damage paint finishes on wheels, but the biggest threat is breaking your fingers. If you use something like match, you'll bring your hand too close to the lip of the wheel. Once the fire catches it's an instant of a second before the sidewall gets flush with the wheel. Your fingers will lose the fight between the rubber and alloy.
I think firemen call it Back Draft Explosion.
Best way to mount a tire in winter . A little startling fluid and proof. Farm tech ,baby!
Seen this done years ago when we lived in the country. Wheel literally jumped 2 feet off ground but it worked
Starter Fluid is used not lighter fluid
the tires doesn't have interior?
that's what im thinking- if they did that -isn't it the interior would also get burn?
what do you mean interior? you mean tube?
i think thats a different type of tire because the one the i usually recognize is the one with donut shaped rubber inside called interior, but that one doesn't have an interior inside, the tire is the one containing the air, i saw that kind of tire once
This is for tubeless tire bud. if it got a tube inside, it'll sit on its own when you fill it.
@@jhayar15 Its called a tube lmao
tht beat at the end was nuts
Are you high?
Thanks for this great video now i understand because of U
I wish i would catch my mechanic doing that shit to my car.
Nice rack
Ill just stick with a bead blaster. I see my survival odds improving
Thanks for introducing one of my innovations in the year 2014 - 2015. However the most important point is that the material or the chemical that using in the tire chamber. It must carefully measure the flammable rate of the chemical, volume of the chemical, and the duration of the combustion! Otherwise the result would be an expulsion of "the flying fire wheel" in the workshop. I tried most of the chemical in our workshop, when I have done tons of the research exams on the squashed tire fittings. The small amount (~ 3ml) of break cleaner liquid that contains methylated spirits would be the ideal chemical to safely use on.
Finally I created the new method of tire fitting in New Zealand & proved that in front of a group of street racing kids in the year 2015. My boss disabled his $500 tire inflate tool.
In the last 20 years, the New Zealand 4X4 industry was using the "water tube method" to inflate the tires to prevent any deflation accidents during off-road trips, before "this quick inflation method" innovated. The "water tube method" is filling water into the 4X4 tire instead of air, to make the tire durable, during the harsh environment.
What I would like to know is how much actual tire pressure can you create by this method.