Love your vids as always. Really keen to hear your thoughts on the strengths/weaknesses of the 300 vs your experiences on the 250’s, now you have clocked up a few more hours on the 300. 👍👍
I run the 216 fatty cheater too. I've been very pleased with it's performance, it's performed well in the sand, rocks , roots and mud. It did increase steering effort some do to the larger footprint but nothing bad. I do not ride fast so I can't answer on performance at higher speed. I run 12 PSI with HD tube.
I love mine. The stock tires are kinda crappy for wet rut and rock in the PNW. I unhooked the wire for the mapping and it seems to tractor better in poor conditions.
I too have got the MX216 Cheater as y new favorite front tire. I however use a TuBlis in it. I'm going to assume that your given tire pressures are at COLD measurements?
Yes, I'm impressed with how well these tires perform and last. The rear I get about 10 days of riding if I take it easy while on the road. If however you are aggressive while riding on the road you can trash one in half a day...
The Tusk wheelset is great value and in my experience has proven to be tough. I have two sets of them. The first set I'm still using and purchased about 7 years and still run true. Motocross Action did a long term test on them here: motocrossactionmag.com/mxa-team-tested-tusk-impact-wheelset/
Still love my 2017 250 carb bike. The engine response and power is so much fun to ride. I haven't done anything with suspension on 2021 TPI yet. For slow stuff (which is mostly what I do) if doesn't feel too bad. But I'm sure I'll upgrade it at some stage...
So what do you think is your most favorite rear tire? I ask because the 120 width 525 has been hard to beat for me but want to hear your thoughts on potentially something better for my next one. I ride in very similar conditions and terrain as you.
I still have my 2017 KTM 250 and ride it regularly. Love riding it. This is the last ride video I made on it a couple of weeks ago: ua-cam.com/video/w1BM-miFYWo/v-deo.html
It's difficult to see on GoPro how steep some of the hills are. Not easy on a 300 carb bike either. Many of my riding buddies have carb 300s and have ridden the same hills. One of them has a Sherco 300 so I'm aware of how that performs too. My modified 300 TPI makes good power for bottom to top. No it's not the strongest power of all bikes, but still very useable and I certainly wouldn't put the blame on the bike for not being able to get up something. I'll be changing one of my carb model 2017 KTM 250s to a 300 soon (fitted with a Keihin 38 and STIC) so it'll be interesting to see how that compares to the TPI and will be sure to make some comparison videos...
I like Tubliss in the rear tire so I can run very low pressure for increased traction and have used this system for about 6 years with very good reliability and performance. For the front, I don't see a clear advantage in using Tubliss over tubes. As tubes are relatively cheap and easy to repair (compared to a Tubliss high pressure tube failure) I've been running heavy front tubes recently.
@@andrejskamla9736 - If I was a racer I would definitely use mousses. But for the riding I do a heavy tube in the front and Tubliss in the rear has proven to be reliable, easy to change tires and provide an excellent level of traction.
I have 2019 300 TPI with a GET ECU and idle screw mod to take care of a 1/3 throttle studder. Transformed the bike, still have an issue. The bike still has a bog at high RPM from time to time with the GET ECU. The bikes power and character can be quite different from ride to ride. Often noticed after removing the tank and cleaning. Seems like it may be related to the plug wire or coil. Make any sense? Different mapping and fuel settings does not seem to have help or worsen the high RPM bog. Winter has set in so haven’t been able trouble shoot any further.
Does the high rpm bog occur even when the bike is fully up to temperature? I've only experienced something like that when you get on the throttle hard for the first time and the bike isn't fully up to temp.
@@TokyoOffroad Appreciate you replying. Yes, the bike does it when fully up to temperature. The bike bogs frequently when on the gas hard, off the gas, and when trying to get back into the gas hard the bike bogs.
@@scrambled1213 I'm assuming that the bike hasn't always bogged at high rpm. One thing to check is your crank case pressure sensor tube and fitting (clean them out): ua-cam.com/video/CTBLjElDNQ8/v-deo.html Or it may be an issue with the pressure sensor itself.
In the front I don’t think there is any advantage to use Tubliss. I run a heavy tube at 11psi, don’t get punctures, it’s cheap and easy to change tires. I love Tubliss for the rear though as it allows me to run very low tire pressure (usually 2psi).
I have a 2021 300 xcw and I did the GET kit, and am having idle issues. I ordered the idle screw. How big of an improvement does the head make really ?
Hello! I just bought the same bike ( 2021 exc 300) and in local dealer store they highly recommended to use Cross Power 4t 10w50 instead Top Speed 15w50. Reason for this swoupe is better clutch work. Is it worth? Thank's
Yes, after the idle screw mod the butterfly opening can be controlled using the adjustable idle screw you install. And the air screw you would close (1/2 turn out from full in is a good starting point) to richen the bottom end.
I do not need to see your Video, just listening and i hear that you play to much with the throttle! Keep the throttle and pull the Clutch more often! Always have one Finger on the Clutch. Keep it up, Greets from Germany!
If the bike was a 125/150 and I was 30 years younger I'd agree with you ;-) My 300 makes good power from bottom to top and for mountain trail riding I don't think there is anything wrong in using the throttle. I often let the bike lug (low rpm) up low traction, slow and tight trails which works well in maintaining traction and momentum. But this technique wouldn't work well with a 125. Of course I still use the clutch, but I'm not constantly slipping it like you would need to with a small bore. And yes, I know my technique, including clutch control, isn't as good as it could be and I still have a lot to improve on and learn. And for me that's what keeps riding fresh and fun, because it isn't easy and I can always get better...
Keep in mind, everyone gets it done differently. I too use the throttle a lot, but I feel it keeps everything in the power band. I also bog my 300 down on purpose just like Tokyo Offroad. He's got good technique, he's just having fun.
@@TokyoOffroad OK, no Problem. I did not want to offend you. Its all about the fun for Sure. Just a Tip. Did you ever think about reducing the thickness of the dds Clutch spring? Try it out with an grinder in the lathe. The 2 stroke has not much of torque, so the Clutch wont Slip and Clutch pull will be able with the little Finger. Good content for another Video of yours. Keep it up!
The bike actually ran fine stock. This is my first ride impression video with the bike stock: ua-cam.com/video/db-jSWo1rlw/v-deo.html The mods I made were in search of more power and torque off the bottom, not to fix a problem. The cost is: RK Tek Head $325, Idle Mod $3, GET ECU $895 (or $1,150 for the Race Kit). Plenty of people ride these bikes stock and love them.
Yes, I owned and rode a 2013 KTM 500 EXC for 4 years. For tight and steep slower riding the lower weight of the 2-stroke makes it easier and more fun. For more open riding, especially higher speed the 500 is great.
@@Huda88754 Yes, the 500 makes lots of torque, which is a lot of fun on long hill climbs. But very low down the 2-strokes work better and can be lugged easily, keeping good tracking in difficult conditions. If you ride a 500 the same way it will stall quite easily. For an all-round bike, which can do anything from cruising on the highway to single track a 500 is a good choice. But if you're only riding off-road and most of it is lower speed, tight and steep riding a 2-stroke is a better choice IMO.
Love your vids as always. Really keen to hear your thoughts on the strengths/weaknesses of the 300 vs your experiences on the 250’s, now you have clocked up a few more hours on the 300. 👍👍
I run the 216 fatty cheater too.
I've been very pleased with it's performance, it's performed well in the sand, rocks , roots and mud. It did increase steering effort some do to the larger footprint but nothing bad. I do not ride fast so I can't answer on performance at higher speed. I run 12 PSI with HD tube.
great show! Love your vids! They are the best of UA-cam by far. great riding skills!!!
That looked like some fun hill climbs! I felt myself shift around during the slip in the creek bed. lol
Nice riding up the creek! That can be really intimidating.
I enjoy your videos and products. Your bike sounds great.
I love mine. The stock tires are kinda crappy for wet rut and rock in the PNW. I unhooked the wire for the mapping and it seems to tractor better in poor conditions.
I too have got the MX216 Cheater as y new favorite front tire. I however use a TuBlis in it. I'm going to assume that your given tire pressures are at COLD measurements?
Impressive tire. Impressive riding. Nice!
Yes, I'm impressed with how well these tires perform and last. The rear I get about 10 days of riding if I take it easy while on the road. If however you are aggressive while riding on the road you can trash one in half a day...
Your videos have helped me a lot. Thank you. Can you make one about forks mantainance?
Tusk wheel for bling factor or are they that much better than stock? Bulletproof makes wheels now, they heavy duty.
The Tusk wheelset is great value and in my experience has proven to be tough. I have two sets of them. The first set I'm still using and purchased about 7 years and still run true. Motocross Action did a long term test on them here: motocrossactionmag.com/mxa-team-tested-tusk-impact-wheelset/
Aweosme video thanks. Question is how do you like it now compared to your beloved 250 carby 😋. Did you do anything with the forks? Cheers
Still love my 2017 250 carb bike. The engine response and power is so much fun to ride. I haven't done anything with suspension on 2021 TPI yet. For slow stuff (which is mostly what I do) if doesn't feel too bad. But I'm sure I'll upgrade it at some stage...
So what do you think is your most favorite rear tire? I ask because the 120 width 525 has been hard to beat for me but want to hear your thoughts on potentially something better for my next one. I ride in very similar conditions and terrain as you.
My favorite is the Shinko 540DC 120/100-18. Unfortunately I don’t think it is available outside Japan yet.
@@TokyoOffroad ok so what might be a close second that's available in the US?
Do you ever miss the playfullness of your 250? The thing i did not really like about my Beta 300 was the fact I had to shift so fast every time
I still have my 2017 KTM 250 and ride it regularly. Love riding it. This is the last ride video I made on it a couple of weeks ago: ua-cam.com/video/w1BM-miFYWo/v-deo.html
if you want better low end torque get a sherco 300 se, this tpi is dying on that uphill. :)
It's difficult to see on GoPro how steep some of the hills are. Not easy on a 300 carb bike either. Many of my riding buddies have carb 300s and have ridden the same hills. One of them has a Sherco 300 so I'm aware of how that performs too. My modified 300 TPI makes good power for bottom to top. No it's not the strongest power of all bikes, but still very useable and I certainly wouldn't put the blame on the bike for not being able to get up something. I'll be changing one of my carb model 2017 KTM 250s to a 300 soon (fitted with a Keihin 38 and STIC) so it'll be interesting to see how that compares to the TPI and will be sure to make some comparison videos...
Nice vid! Curious as to why your on a HD tube in the front while running tubliss in the rear.
I like Tubliss in the rear tire so I can run very low pressure for increased traction and have used this system for about 6 years with very good reliability and performance. For the front, I don't see a clear advantage in using Tubliss over tubes. As tubes are relatively cheap and easy to repair (compared to a Tubliss high pressure tube failure) I've been running heavy front tubes recently.
@@TokyoOffroad don't you like mousses ?
@@andrejskamla9736 - If I was a racer I would definitely use mousses. But for the riding I do a heavy tube in the front and Tubliss in the rear has proven to be reliable, easy to change tires and provide an excellent level of traction.
I have 2019 300 TPI with a GET ECU and idle screw mod to take care of a 1/3 throttle studder. Transformed the bike, still have an issue.
The bike still has a bog at high RPM from time to time with the GET ECU. The bikes power and character can be quite different from ride to ride. Often noticed after removing the tank and cleaning. Seems like it may be related to the plug wire or coil. Make any sense? Different mapping and fuel settings does not seem to have help or worsen the high RPM bog. Winter has set in so haven’t been able trouble shoot any further.
Does the high rpm bog occur even when the bike is fully up to temperature? I've only experienced something like that when you get on the throttle hard for the first time and the bike isn't fully up to temp.
@@TokyoOffroad Appreciate you replying. Yes, the bike does it when fully up to temperature. The bike bogs frequently when on the gas hard, off the gas, and when trying to get back into the gas hard the bike bogs.
@@scrambled1213 I'm assuming that the bike hasn't always bogged at high rpm. One thing to check is your crank case pressure sensor tube and fitting (clean them out): ua-cam.com/video/CTBLjElDNQ8/v-deo.html
Or it may be an issue with the pressure sensor itself.
What wrap around hand guards are you using? Do you have a video on them?
The handguards are Cycra Series One. I made the following install video: ua-cam.com/video/ZaRD6ZHigmI/v-deo.html
That hill was made for the 300 XCW
how come your not using tubliss in the front anymore?
In the front I don’t think there is any advantage to use Tubliss. I run a heavy tube at 11psi, don’t get punctures, it’s cheap and easy to change tires. I love Tubliss for the rear though as it allows me to run very low tire pressure (usually 2psi).
I have a 2021 300 xcw and I did the GET kit, and am having idle issues. I ordered the idle screw. How big of an improvement does the head make really ?
The RK Tek head makes a big improvement in low and mid power. Highly recommended.
Hello! I just bought the same bike ( 2021 exc 300) and in local dealer store they highly recommended to use Cross Power 4t 10w50 instead Top Speed 15w50. Reason for this swoupe is better clutch work. Is it worth? Thank's
I don't know, I've only used Top Speed 15w50. No issues with my clutch so not considering changing to a different oil.
When you do the idle screw mod, does it open the butterfly?
Yes, after the idle screw mod the butterfly opening can be controlled using the adjustable idle screw you install. And the air screw you would close (1/2 turn out from full in is a good starting point) to richen the bottom end.
Is this trail near saitama japan?
Yes, although the ride area before the intro is somewhere different...
How are you liking the traction control?
It does help in some situations. Shorter, low traction, technical sections I often use it. For long hill climbs I prefer the traction control off.
Very nice 👌👍
Where are you riding?
Japan
Yes, in Japan about 100km from Tokyo
I do not need to see your Video, just listening and i hear that you play to much with the throttle! Keep the throttle and pull the Clutch more often! Always have one Finger on the Clutch. Keep it up, Greets from Germany!
Do you think he’d get to the top of the hills if he used the clutch more?
If the bike was a 125/150 and I was 30 years younger I'd agree with you ;-)
My 300 makes good power from bottom to top and for mountain trail riding I don't think there is anything wrong in using the throttle. I often let the bike lug (low rpm) up low traction, slow and tight trails which works well in maintaining traction and momentum. But this technique wouldn't work well with a 125. Of course I still use the clutch, but I'm not constantly slipping it like you would need to with a small bore. And yes, I know my technique, including clutch control, isn't as good as it could be and I still have a lot to improve on and learn. And for me that's what keeps riding fresh and fun, because it isn't easy and I can always get better...
Keep in mind, everyone gets it done differently. I too use the throttle a lot, but I feel it keeps everything in the power band. I also bog my 300 down on purpose just like Tokyo Offroad. He's got good technique, he's just having fun.
@@TokyoOffroad OK, no Problem. I did not want to offend you. Its all about the fun for Sure. Just a Tip. Did you ever think about reducing the thickness of the dds Clutch spring? Try it out with an grinder in the lathe. The 2 stroke has not much of torque, so the Clutch wont Slip and Clutch pull will be able with the little Finger. Good content for another Video of yours. Keep it up!
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2k in parts to make a 10k bike to run fine... lol
The bike actually ran fine stock. This is my first ride impression video with the bike stock: ua-cam.com/video/db-jSWo1rlw/v-deo.html
The mods I made were in search of more power and torque off the bottom, not to fix a problem. The cost is: RK Tek Head $325, Idle Mod $3, GET ECU $895 (or $1,150 for the Race Kit). Plenty of people ride these bikes stock and love them.
Ya cheaten on a 300 lol
Have you ridden a 450 or 500 exc hows it compare to the 300 tpi in this terrain?
Yes, I owned and rode a 2013 KTM 500 EXC for 4 years. For tight and steep slower riding the lower weight of the 2-stroke makes it easier and more fun. For more open riding, especially higher speed the 500 is great.
@@TokyoOffroad thanks for the reply hows the power delivery between the 2? Does the 500 have more instant bulk torque?
@@Huda88754 Yes, the 500 makes lots of torque, which is a lot of fun on long hill climbs. But very low down the 2-strokes work better and can be lugged easily, keeping good tracking in difficult conditions. If you ride a 500 the same way it will stall quite easily. For an all-round bike, which can do anything from cruising on the highway to single track a 500 is a good choice. But if you're only riding off-road and most of it is lower speed, tight and steep riding a 2-stroke is a better choice IMO.