California’s trying to phase out two strokes ? Understatement. More like California trying to phase out individualism and anything that might be described as fun.
i guess we are lucky here is Australia as we have EXC which is lic type bike , i find them a big improvement from my 2011 ktm250exc , my son has bought the 2020 ktm 300 exc . he has had a few dramas with idle speed , but other wise its been great . im 62 years old and enjoy 2 bangers . cheers for the info steve/Australia
The one single huge reason to get a Rekluse is if you’ve got a bike with a cable clutch and do a lot of technical single track. Both my WR 450’s have Rekluse clutch’s, no more arm pump. Picking up a GasGas EC300 this spring and with the buttery soft hydraulic clutch I agree, a Rekluse is probably not needed. The GasGas will be a nice contrast to the 450’s, especially for competitive events. Nice review. Thanks!
Modern 2 strokes are incredible. We certainly are not taking anything away from four strokes as there are some unbelievable option available there too. But the EC300, TE300 and the 300 XC-W as well as the offerings from Beta and Sherco are just amazing. Enjoy your new bike!
My very first bike was a 2018 ktm 350 xcf and that biked sure kicked the shit out of me through the learning curve I purchased a 2021 te300i rockstar 9 months ago and absolutely love the bike, the ktm is collecting dust now Excellent video, thank you for sharing
Okay, now I know which bike to get next. I just did my first enduro up here in Michigan on my 2017 KTM 500 EXC-F. I love the bike thoroughly, except in the super-tight or just regular tight woods sections. I posted that I was going to replace the 500 with a 350. Many suggested even the 350 is too big and to look to a 250 ECX-F, but even stronger recommendations for a 250 or 300 XC-W TPI (2021 or newer). Your review here was very reasoned and informative to help me decide. Now I am fully committed to finding a good, used 2021 or newer 300 XC-W. Thanks to you! 👍🏻
I have this bike there is a company called dirt legal. If you pay them they will re title and plate your bike in South Dakota. South Dakota is Unique because you don’t need an in state address to do this. This way you can ride your dirt bike anywhere
What's the highest body weight the front suspension can be setup for in stock form? And roughly how much would it cost me to get a stronger rear spring installed (spring + work)? Thanks!
Highly recommend calling a reputable suspension shop like Carls Cycle Sales in Boise or Konflict Motorsports. They can tell you the latest prices and give you the best information.
Yes, that is enviable. We can kind of get away with making these street legal in parts of the US. But it can be a challenge which is unfortunate. Thank you for watching.
@@erendyalatorre7785 That's right! Here in Colorado a regular dirt bike is street legal for county roads as long as you have your current sticker on the bike. Same goes for ATVs and side by sides. Depends on the county too, but most of them are like this.
Its funny how ppl say "How is it going to know how much oil to mix in" When the auto mixing has been around FOREVER, i had a 1996 Kawasaki KE 100 that had it and a 2007 Yamaha Blaster that had it.
And all the snowmobiles that have it. Injection wasn't in favor for a long time due to additional weight and you can change how a bike runs with different ratios when you mix yourself. But in todays world all that is unnecessary.
@@UPSHIFT_ONLINE Back in 96 i got into a huge debate with my cuz about my bike as he said its 2 stroke and i was like no i dont mix oil, until we popped the seat and theres another oil tank
We completely understand the sentiment. But then again, we have yet to be in a situation where we were really jammed up because we didn't have have a kickstart lever. More people would probably be more upset that the price of the bike went up $200 - $300. Devils advocate...
@@UPSHIFT_ONLINE okay but that’s your experience some people like to ride way out off grid away from power and if you have an electrical issue with the battery or starting system you would be required to push start the bike which would definitely be worth the $300 dollars hell I’d still buy it if they upped the price $500 I grew up working on tractors and from my experience more electronics doesn’t benefit the machine usually it does the opposite
Have you ridden the 300xc? If you have, how’d you like it compared to the xcw? Reason I ask is because I purchased a 2021 300xcw but I feel it’s too soft suspension wise.
We have not ridden a 21 XC. Pretty likely the suspension much different between the two. And rarely have we ever had a bike where the suspension was spot on out of the box. We almost always send suspension out to get set up for us.
This bike does produce a lot of power, but it is very usable power. Meaning it's delivered smoothly and can be controlled. But as a beginner it could potentially get away from you too. Another bike to consider would be the Beta 200RR. This would be a more forgiving bike but still has plenty to grow into. And it holds it's value very well.
@Honda Havoc well my 300 Ktm the frame broke off by the kick stand and then had a Ktm 250 xc and the hole fucking front end snapped off. It about killed me.
@@MansoyHumilde777 hahahaha I was a bodybuilder at one time and was about 270 gIve or take but I’m about 240 now. I have been riding more and more and would like to loss more muscle to be able to ride better. It’s just not easy for me to do so.
Did you have your stabilizer set up to stiff maybe. Find a good neutral position on the bike. You may need to play with your setup some more... bars and bar position, foot pegs and so on.
The 250/300 xc or xc-w top out at the same speed depending on what sprocket you're running. 1st gear is lower on the w model and 2nd gear seems to have a wide gap but all in all both bikes have the same 4th,5th & 6th gear ratios so they top oút at the same speed pretty much unless the xc has a 53 rear sprocket & 14t front sprocket & the 300 xc-w has a 48t rear sprocket & a 15t front sprocket then the 300xc-w would have a little more top speed. If both bikes have a 52t rear sprocket & a 13t front then they both will go the same speed once they have both ktm-300's wide open in 6th gear. Horsepower wise they both have the same amount of horsepower & torque.
@@2511jeremy 1st gear on the xc-w model is for very tight woods & tight single track. I have a older 2011 KTM 300 XC and I rode a friends 2014 KTM 300 XC-W and the XC-W was pretty fast in 4th,5th,6th gear but both bikes in 6th gear had some head shake but nonetheless I love my 2011 KTM 300 xc with either the Keihin 36mm. carb or the Smart Carb 2 which I have on it now. The gearing on the XC 2t models is considered a semi-close ratio transmission & the XC-W is of course the wide ratio transmission. One thing I really like on my 2011 is it was the last year KTM-250/300XC's still used the PDS rear suspension which rocks when riding single track or woods riding. When the 300 wide ratios come out with throttle body injection & still have the PDS rear shock that's when I'll buy a new KTM-300 XC-W model.
I guess you answered my question on if we can make one of these street legal in California. Another reason to move out of the state. I’m tired of our government
@@ABC-oo4vm they vibrate way to much I want one too but as much as I want one they aren’t practical unless it’s the end of the world and you can’t get fresh gas
@@nateklug5933 Royal enfield makes diesel bikes. the USMC had diesel motorcross bikes. You could use jp5 or even used motor oil. diesel torque is amazing. Let alone, you’ll be able to make your own biodiesel if need be. Fuel economy is something like 100 miles to the gallon too. Wasn’t sure if any newer diesel bikes were available.
@@ABC-oo4vm yeah I read up on all those really wanted the Ktm diesel it was a military bike but only 220 were made that number may be a little off, but from what I’ve heard they vibrate so bad that it’s unbearable i personally don’t know how true that is but I know I’m not gonna spend the kind of money they want for the few diesel production motorcycles and as I said previously I don’t see them being necessary except in an end of the world scenario where gas is to gelled up. As cool as a diesel motorcycle seems they’re to expensive and to uncomfortable for my liking they make plenty of gas motorcycles that get amazing mileage too that will be way cheaper to buy personally I feel that’s the best way to go. And as for the 100 mpg that’s only for the military diesel bikes the production ones I seen were only getting in the 80’s for mileage still great but not quite as thrilling as 100
I’ve got a 2022 ktm 300 xc-w tpi on order and this video helped me realize I made the right decision - thanks bro!
Awesome! Enjoy your new bike.
Hell yeah man!! I’m getting a 2022 ktm xc tpi this month. Stay safe
I got my 2022 300 a month ago and I just can't stop grinning every time I ride it!
California’s trying to phase out two strokes ? Understatement. More like California trying to phase out individualism and anything that might be described as fun.
It's certainly a challenging environment for the powersports industry right now.
Fuck California
Let’s go Brandon
You really want to make Caliweirdos heads spin, diesel everything. Trucks, cars, motorcycles, lawnmowers, weed eaters etc.
Gavin #1 uhaul saleman
i guess we are lucky here is Australia as we have EXC which is lic type bike , i find them a big improvement from my 2011 ktm250exc , my son has bought the 2020 ktm 300 exc . he has had a few dramas with idle speed , but other wise its been great . im 62 years old and enjoy 2 bangers . cheers for the info steve/Australia
The 300EXC is an excellent machine. Thank you for watching and for reaching out. Appreciated!
The one single huge reason to get a Rekluse is if you’ve got a bike with a cable clutch and do a lot of technical single track. Both my WR 450’s have Rekluse clutch’s, no more arm pump. Picking up a GasGas EC300 this spring and with the buttery soft hydraulic clutch I agree, a Rekluse is probably not needed. The GasGas will be a nice contrast to the 450’s, especially for competitive events. Nice review. Thanks!
Modern 2 strokes are incredible. We certainly are not taking anything away from four strokes as there are some unbelievable option available there too. But the EC300, TE300 and the 300 XC-W as well as the offerings from Beta and Sherco are just amazing. Enjoy your new bike!
Thanks for the review. I’m currently on 2015 300 XCW and previously had an 2007. Love the bikes and this makes me want a new one!
They have come a long way since 2007.
My very first bike was a 2018 ktm 350 xcf and that biked sure kicked the shit out of me through the learning curve
I purchased a 2021 te300i rockstar 9 months ago and absolutely love the bike, the ktm is collecting dust now
Excellent video, thank you for sharing
Thank you for watching and commenting. Enjoy your new ride... but it sounds like you are.
Thanks for the review, I have mine on Order and should arrive this month. Wide open spaces of Mongolia looks similar to your video.
Congrats! Have fun with it. Thank you for watching
cool review. I bought this model last November and after 1,000 miles couldn't be happier. So much fun learning to ride on this bike.
Excellent! Contgrats on your new bike and thank you for watching.
Okay, now I know which bike to get next. I just did my first enduro up here in Michigan on my 2017 KTM 500 EXC-F. I love the bike thoroughly, except in the super-tight or just regular tight woods sections. I posted that I was going to replace the 500 with a 350. Many suggested even the 350 is too big and to look to a 250 ECX-F, but even stronger recommendations for a 250 or 300 XC-W TPI (2021 or newer). Your review here was very reasoned and informative to help me decide. Now I am fully committed to finding a good, used 2021 or newer 300 XC-W. Thanks to you! 👍🏻
I have one as my daily commuter when I don't need the car here in Australia it's so much fun! Total cop magnet though 😅
A cop magnet they are. We have had a few run in's on two strokes ourselves over the years.
Bought a 2022 model and it’s so much fun 😎
Congrats! Enjoy it and thank you for watching.
Very good points; very well made! Thanks bud 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for watching!
Great overview and comparisons, thank you
Thanks for watching!
Mine is licensed for the street also. 2021 300xcw tpi
Excellent. Enjoy it!! Thank you for watching.
I have this bike there is a company called dirt legal. If you pay them they will re title and plate your bike in South Dakota. South Dakota is Unique because you don’t need an in state address to do this. This way you can ride your dirt bike anywhere
That's an interesting service.
I just got mine a couple weeks ago and it is amazing!
Congrats... it's going to be a good summer.
Good stuff... enjoy your new ride!
What's the highest body weight the front suspension can be setup for in stock form? And roughly how much would it cost me to get a stronger rear spring installed (spring + work)? Thanks!
Highly recommend calling a reputable suspension shop like Carls Cycle Sales in Boise or Konflict Motorsports. They can tell you the latest prices and give you the best information.
You can do it yourself…it’s rather easy…I did my own on my Honda
To bad u don't live in Australia your xcw is our exc and its fully road legal.
Yes, that is enviable. We can kind of get away with making these street legal in parts of the US. But it can be a challenge which is unfortunate. Thank you for watching.
Its a breeze to make these street legal in every state except hippie loving, tree hugging, communist praising California.
@@erendyalatorre7785 That's right! Here in Colorado a regular dirt bike is street legal for county roads as long as you have your current sticker on the bike. Same goes for ATVs and side by sides. Depends on the county too, but most of them are like this.
@@trevorjameson3213 damnit Trevor don't make me cry
Its funny how ppl say "How is it going to know how much oil to mix in" When the auto mixing has been around FOREVER, i had a 1996 Kawasaki KE 100 that had it and a 2007 Yamaha Blaster that had it.
And all the snowmobiles that have it. Injection wasn't in favor for a long time due to additional weight and you can change how a bike runs with different ratios when you mix yourself. But in todays world all that is unnecessary.
@@UPSHIFT_ONLINE Back in 96 i got into a huge debate with my cuz about my bike as he said its 2 stroke and i was like no i dont mix oil, until we popped the seat and theres another oil tank
I actually have a full highway plate on my ec300 in Idaho. Not restricted. Full highway.
Idaho is good like that
Gotta Love living in Nevada... Plated 2020 TE300i
Yes sir! Thank you for watching.
already drooling for second year.... dream machine, nice review, cheers V!
Need one! 🤤
@@MountainMoto5 so freakishly bad😭
Thank you for watching!
That should be good enough for a film festival award
Which film festivals do you go to? Thank you for watching.
It’s easy to put a plate on that bike, move out of California, you’ll be satisfied with your decision like the bikes decision.
True enough ;)
These 300’s would be 100% perfect if they had a kickstart
We completely understand the sentiment. But then again, we have yet to be in a situation where we were really jammed up because we didn't have have a kickstart lever. More people would probably be more upset that the price of the bike went up $200 - $300. Devils advocate...
@@UPSHIFT_ONLINE okay but that’s your experience some people like to ride way out off grid away from power and if you have an electrical issue with the battery or starting system you would be required to push start the bike which would definitely be worth the $300 dollars hell I’d still buy it if they upped the price $500 I grew up working on tractors and from my experience more electronics doesn’t benefit the machine usually it does the opposite
Have you ridden the 300xc? If you have, how’d you like it compared to the xcw? Reason I ask is because I purchased a 2021 300xcw but I feel it’s too soft suspension wise.
We have not ridden a 21 XC. Pretty likely the suspension much different between the two. And rarely have we ever had a bike where the suspension was spot on out of the box. We almost always send suspension out to get set up for us.
@@UPSHIFT_ONLINE thanks man, that will be my next mod for-sure!
Any time!
I just joined the 300 XC-W Kool-aide crowd. What a great bike!
Welcome! ;) Have fun with it. Should be a good summer.
Awesome! Would this bike be a good beginner bike. It has lots of power but it seems so well controlled
This bike does produce a lot of power, but it is very usable power. Meaning it's delivered smoothly and can be controlled. But as a beginner it could potentially get away from you too. Another bike to consider would be the Beta 200RR. This would be a more forgiving bike but still has plenty to grow into. And it holds it's value very well.
I’ll keep my beta with smart carb. Was a Ktm guy for most my life and chances are I’ll never go back
Beta is making an incredible bike. Enjoy!
@Honda Havoc well my 300 Ktm the frame broke off by the kick stand and then had a Ktm 250 xc and the hole fucking front end snapped off. It about killed me.
@@sxsmarine4075 how much do you weigh lol
@@MansoyHumilde777 hahahaha I was a bodybuilder at one time and was about 270 gIve or take but I’m about 240 now. I have been riding more and more and would like to loss more muscle to be able to ride better. It’s just not easy for me to do so.
I just bought one. Thanks for the information.
Congrats! Enjoy it.
Why do I hate stabilizers I could never get used to it… how do people keep slow balance going up hill and slow descents
Did you have your stabilizer set up to stiff maybe. Find a good neutral position on the bike. You may need to play with your setup some more... bars and bar position, foot pegs and so on.
Yeah your probably right it’s the first bike I’ve had with a stabilizer maybe just messing with my head
I’m an az resident, am I allowed to ride my TPI in CA with az plates?
Probably not... but we do not know for certain. Highly recommend reaching out to State Parks and Rec (or the equivalent) to make sure.
Maaaan I kinda wanted to head that bad ass bike :( I might check your other vids and see what’s up
Not following you here. What's wrong?
Doesn't the w also meen the 6 speed is more spaced out for more top end
Yes. The W designates a wide ratio transmission. Apologies for the tardy response.
The 250/300 xc or xc-w top out at the same speed depending on what sprocket you're running. 1st gear is lower on the w model and 2nd gear seems to have a wide gap but all in all both bikes have the same 4th,5th & 6th gear ratios so they top oút at the same speed pretty much unless the xc has a 53 rear sprocket & 14t front sprocket & the 300 xc-w has a 48t rear sprocket & a 15t front sprocket then the 300xc-w would have a little more top speed. If both bikes have a 52t rear sprocket & a 13t front then they both will go the same speed once they have both ktm-300's wide open in 6th gear. Horsepower wise they both have the same amount of horsepower & torque.
@@jeff40 yeah but if you have the same top speed with both bikes the w version will have lower raitos at the bottom witch helps
@@2511jeremy 1st gear on the xc-w model is for very tight woods & tight single track. I have a older 2011 KTM 300 XC and I rode a friends 2014 KTM 300 XC-W and the XC-W was pretty fast in 4th,5th,6th gear but both bikes in 6th gear had some head shake but nonetheless I love my 2011 KTM 300 xc with either the Keihin 36mm. carb or the Smart Carb 2 which I have on it now. The gearing on the XC 2t models is considered a semi-close ratio transmission & the XC-W is of course the wide ratio transmission. One thing I really like on my 2011 is it was the last year KTM-250/300XC's still used the PDS rear suspension which rocks when riding single track or woods riding. When the 300 wide ratios come out with throttle body injection & still have the PDS rear shock that's when I'll buy a new KTM-300 XC-W model.
Nice! (“W” is for wide range/ratio transmission too… yeah?)
That is correct
Best.bike.ever. Love it.
They are pretty amazing!
Top dual sport for So Cal desert, San Diego traffic, and trails?
Going to have to recommend either a KTM EXC, the Husqvarna FE or a BETA RR.
@@UPSHIFT_ONLINE Thanks! I know of a KTM, Honda dealer without any markups. Only the 350 seems to be available there, would you hold out for a 500?👍
Where is that riding location? Thanks
Looks like ocotillo wells. North on Pole Line rd
@@OGPokey151 must be way north cause I've been there and never seen hills like that
It is Ocotillo Wells in California
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Precision Steering Stabilizers are the way to go
There are a number of great brands making really good product these days. It's a great time to be a motorcycle enthusiast.
is there gonna be review of the xcw250?
We could not get a 250. Story of our lives these days.
@@UPSHIFT_ONLINE ow ok
Hope u will at some point
Keep it up brother
Thank you. Happy Thanksgiving
Where are you riding at in the video.
Ocotillo Wells, CA Thank you for watching
@@UPSHIFT_ONLINE thats what i thought.
Washington state allows me to plate my 300 XC.
Yep, Washington is one that makes that relatively simple. Many that do not though. :(
I guess you answered my question on if we can make one of these street legal in California. Another reason to move out of the state. I’m tired of our government
Unfortunately, CA is tough on these bikes.
You can make it everywhere street legal. Can't just turn around from the idea if you really want it everything is possible.
Don't vote the same way when you move out
Where do you buy it ?
At a KTM dealer near you.
This guy loves 2 strokes
Pretty hard not to.
Wish this was road legal in Sweden.......dream bike. Maybe one day we will get a decent government.
They are a lot of fun that's for sure. Can you get a 690? Not quite the same thing, but it's kind of close.
Excs are road-legal in Sweden as far as I know...
"I'm moving out of Cali"
That has been the trend.
You have never been to SC 😂. These can come from dealer street legal
That’s a rare place! Enjoy it
PA also just picked in up 2 days ago
Can you run pump gas on this bike?
Yes you can. Just make sure the two stroke injector oil tank is full.
I can’t afford one 😔
Maybe you can look for a used one that's in your price range. The previous years of this bike were excellent as well.
rearly ban 2T in CA L much polution do they make u go goverment
Not really sure what you are saying here.
@@UPSHIFT_ONLINE Going through these comments, I'm amazed you have taken the time to reply to each one.
Be nice to have a diesel
Have you ever ridden a diesel motorcycle? Definitely do not recommend.
@@UPSHIFT_ONLINE thank you responding to my post. Why do you feel that way?
@@ABC-oo4vm they vibrate way to much I want one too but as much as I want one they aren’t practical unless it’s the end of the world and you can’t get fresh gas
@@nateklug5933 Royal enfield makes diesel bikes. the USMC had diesel motorcross bikes. You could use jp5 or even used motor oil. diesel torque is amazing. Let alone, you’ll be able to make your own biodiesel if need be. Fuel economy is something like 100 miles to the gallon too. Wasn’t sure if any newer diesel bikes were available.
@@ABC-oo4vm yeah I read up on all those really wanted the Ktm diesel it was a military bike but only 220 were made that number may be a little off, but from what I’ve heard they vibrate so bad that it’s unbearable i personally don’t know how true that is but I know I’m not gonna spend the kind of money they want for the few diesel production motorcycles and as I said previously I don’t see them being necessary except in an end of the world scenario where gas is to gelled up. As cool as a diesel motorcycle seems they’re to expensive and to uncomfortable for my liking they make plenty of gas motorcycles that get amazing mileage too that will be way cheaper to buy personally I feel that’s the best way to go. And as for the 100 mpg that’s only for the military diesel bikes the production ones I seen were only getting in the 80’s for mileage still great but not quite as thrilling as 100
300 XC
The XC is great too.